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Honda Delays Updates, Pricey Lucid, After-Market Paint Protection

Honda Delays Updates, Pricey Lucid, After-Market Paint Protection

Car Stuff Podcast May 12, 2026 56 min
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About this episode

Greenbrier Concourse classics and judging classes kick things off, including a Duesenberg Model J taking best-of-show and a “malaise class” spanning mid-seventies through newer cars. EV news follows: Tesla ends Model S production, while Chinese EV plans get tangled in software/law and tariffs—Canada gets them first. Honda delays updates by extending models after scrapping EV plants. The Lucid Sapphire review highlights triple-motor track hardware and one-pedal driving, then the show gets practical with paint protection film (PPF): a self-healing barrier that can be installed with near-seamless edges and costs vary by coverage.

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Brand

Lucid

Lucid is a company that makes electric cars. If the discussion is about price, it usually means their cars cost more than many other EVs.

Car

Duesenberg model J

"So what car won? [159.3s] The winner was a... [161.2s] The best of show was a Duesenberg, and it was a beautiful green-on-green, it was a two-tone green Duesenberg model J, and my wife and I got a picture of it..."

The Duesenberg Model J is a classic American luxury car from the early 1900s. People love it because it’s rare and historically important, and it often shows up in top-tier car shows. If one wins best-of-show, it’s usually because it’s exceptionally well-preserved or restored.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"... great picture of a pillow that is a split window Corvette, and so I've always had a lot of fun with the des..."

The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s known for being fast and having a recognizable design. Some versions have a special rear window shape that people talk about a lot.

Car

Tesla Model S

"the first was the last Model S ruled off the line. [337.3s] Yeah, I saw that one, I saw all the signatures across it. [340.5s] Yeah, yeah, so they are not making any more Tesla Model Ss, that's it, that's the end,"

The Tesla Model S is an all-electric car from Tesla. The hosts are saying the final one has been built, so it’s basically the end of that model’s run.

Car

Tesla Model

"...s it. Yeah, yeah, so they are not making any more Tesla Model Ss, that's it, that's the end, started in 2012."

The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s designed to be practical for everyday driving while still being powered by an electric motor. It’s a popular model, so it often shows up in discussions about Tesla’s cars.

Term

EVs

"Julie is now going to be the first automaker to export EVs to [390.6s] Canada. Yeah, they're bringing in the Lotus sports car from China, and they've been planning to"

EVs are electric cars. This part of the show is about how EVs are being shipped to different countries first, depending on rules and costs.

Car

Lotus Sports

"...port EVs to Canada. Yeah, they're bringing in the Lotus sports car from China, and they've been planning to sell..."

The Lotus Sport 420 Final Edition is a special limited version of a Lotus sports car. “Final Edition” usually means it’s the last run of that particular model setup. The podcast is discussing it in the context of Lotus cars being sold in Canada.

Term

software and hardware

"sell that in the US, but the laws for software and hardware and all the tariffs and everything [408.2s] have prevented it from hitting the streets, but we've been anticipating it for a long time,"

EVs aren’t just the physical car parts—they also run on computer software. The hosts are saying rules about both the software and the hardware can delay whether cars are allowed to be sold.

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tariffs

"sell that in the US, but the laws for software and hardware and all the tariffs and everything [408.2s] have prevented it from hitting the streets, but we've been anticipating it for a long time, [413.2s] and Canada gets it first."

Tariffs are extra taxes on imported products. The hosts are saying those taxes are part of why some Chinese EVs aren’t arriving in the U.S. as quickly as expected.

Car

Lexus TZ

"Lexus launched the TZ, which is an all-electric version of the Toyota Highlander and the Subaru getaway, so built on the same platform as those two vehicles, 3-row electric EV"

Lexus TZ is a new Lexus electric SUV. The hosts say it’s a 3-row EV and that it shares its underlying design with the Toyota Highlander and a Subaru model, but Lexus plans to bring it in from Japan.

Car

Toyota Highlander

"Lexus launched the TZ, which is an all-electric version of the Toyota Highlander and the Subaru getaway... The interesting part about it is the Highlander and the getaway are built in Kentucky"

The Toyota Highlander is the model the hosts compare against for the new Lexus electric SUV. They mention the Highlander is made in Kentucky, while the Lexus version would be brought in from Japan.

Concept

extend the generations

"Because of scrapping their EV plants... they've decided to extend the generations of the Odyssey, the Accord, the HRV, and the Acura MDX."

“Extend the generations” means the company plans to keep selling the current version of a car for longer. The hosts say Honda is doing this because its EV plans changed and it needs to make up money, so it’s slowing down updates for some existing models.

Car

Honda Accord

"...ded to extend the generations of the Odyssey, the Accord, the HRV, and the Acura MDX. I mean, I'll be hone..."

The Honda Accord is a family car that’s meant for normal daily driving. It’s known for being comfortable and relatively efficient. People often talk about it because it’s been around for many years and gets updated over time.

Car

Acura MDX

"they've decided to extend the generations of the Odyssey, the Accord, the HRV, and the Acura MDX. I mean, I'll be honest with you, I don't know how much longer you can extend"

The Acura MDX is one of the vehicles being kept around longer. The hosts say Honda’s EV plant changes mean they’ll extend the current generations of several models instead of moving on as quickly.

Car

Honda Odyssey

"the lifespan of the Honda Odyssey. Like that is probably, I think it's the second oldest minivan in the segment, and it is the last time I drove it, and I'll be honest with you, it's been a couple"

The Honda Odyssey is Honda’s minivan. The hosts are basically saying it’s been around a long time and may feel old compared with newer designs.

Concept

transition to electric vehicles

"Honda has, we anticipated something like this coming, because the transition to electric vehicles has been too fast. We knew that the manufacturers would never sell the number of vehicles they brought out."

This is about car companies moving from gas cars to electric cars. The point here is that the switch happened faster than people were ready to buy, so companies may keep older models around longer.

Concept

extension of all these models

"So when Honda had in their plan all these electric vehicles, what are they going to do when there's no demand for those electric vehicles? And so we anticipated this extension of all these models. Honda is only one of them."

This means car companies are keeping existing models on sale longer than they expected. Rather than redesigning everything right away, they keep selling the current versions and make smaller updates.

Concept

time-speed distance rally

"Oh, okay. Yeah. So I just spent the last week in the San Francisco Bay Area participating in the Trinity Road Rally, which is a time-speed distance rally. Essentially, you get like a route book, and you have to follow the route, and then you have to be at a certain location at a prescribed"

A time-speed-distance rally is like a driving challenge where you have to follow a route and hit the right timing and speed targets. It’s more about precision than going as fast as possible.

Car

Lucid Sapphire

"But the real star for me of the Trinity was, we were driving the Lucid Sapphire. So this is the super special sport car version of the Lucid Air."

The Lucid Sapphire is a high-performance, track-focused version of the Lucid Air. It’s built to be extremely quick and grippy, while still being usable as a daily car.

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horsepower

"Because it has more than 1200 horsepower. So that's like 400 more horsepower than the Grand Touring is going to get."

Horsepower is a way to describe how strong the car’s power is. More horsepower usually means the car can speed up faster.

Term

0 to 60 mile per hour time

"0 to 60 mile per hour time is like 1.9 seconds. Less than 1.9. I think it's 1.89 seconds. And so very fast."

The 0–60 mph time is how long it takes a car to accelerate from a standstill to 60 miles per hour. It’s a common performance metric because it reflects how quickly the car can put power to the road.

Term

triple motor setup

"It has some, it has a triple motor setup. So you have like power going directly to the rear wheels."

A triple-motor setup means the car has three electric motors working together. That helps it deliver power more effectively for faster launches and better grip.

Term

torque vectoring

"It's got advanced torque vectoring. It's got a more aggressive cooling system..."

Torque vectoring is how the car can adjust how much twisting force it sends to different wheels. That can make turning feel more controlled and grippy.

Term

carbon ceramic brakes

"And then carbon ceramic brakes, stiffer suspension and chassis tuning."

Carbon-ceramic brakes are special brake rotors made from ceramic and carbon materials. They’re designed to keep braking performance consistent when you’re driving hard on a track.

Topic

Sonoma Raceway

"And then we got on the racetrack. We actually went to Sonoma Raceway. And we had the opportunity to do some turns there."

Sonoma Raceway is a race track. They’re saying the car felt especially good there when turning and slowing down repeatedly.

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one pedal driving

"And we enabled the one pedal driving. So you just like lift your foot off the gas and it just slows down."

One-pedal driving means you can slow the car mostly by lifting off the gas. It uses the electric motors to slow the car down, so you don’t have to touch the brake as often.

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all electric range

"I mean, even though it's a track purposed car, it is an amazing everyday driver. It has more than 400 miles of all electric range, which is more than most cars."

All-electric range is how far an EV can go using only its battery. Higher range usually means fewer charging stops on a trip.

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massaging seats

"I was like, well, you know, my favorite thing about this is the massaging seats. And I mean, that's not absolutely my favorite thing. But it was pretty, it was pretty good. Because they were the best massaging seats I've ever experienced in a vehicle, like the whole seat vibrates."

Massaging seats are seats with built-in motors that vibrate to feel like a massage. The host liked this one because it vibrated the whole seat.

Term

suede steering wheel

"if I had to pick one thing out about the car that I didn't like, and this is a stupid knit to pick, it had a suede steering wheel. That's it. Everything else about the car is perfect."

A suede steering wheel uses a soft, textured material (suede) instead of leather or synthetic leather. It can feel great, but it may be more sensitive to oils, wear, and cleaning methods than smoother leather surfaces.

Car

Cadillac Lyric V

"we drove to West Virginia a couple weeks ago, we drove a Cadillac Lyric V. So that was my longest trip in an electric car. So you had to plan out where you were going to go."

The Cadillac Lyriq is Cadillac’s electric SUV. The host talks about taking it on a long trip and how they had to plan charging stops.

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charge from 18% to 97% in about an hour

"we found a Walmart that had a charger and fortunately it had a cracker barrel so we could sit there and eat lunch. But it was, it made the trip very easily. We got to charge from 18% to 97% in about an hour. So it was very fast charging."

That’s how long it took to charge the electric car from a low battery level to almost full. Charging is usually faster when the battery is low and slows down near 100%.

Car

Dodge Charger

"...g to go. And so we, we found a Walmart that had a charger and fortunately it had a cracker barrel so we cou..."

The Dodge Charger is a car that’s built to feel sporty and powerful. It’s a sedan, but it’s usually associated with performance versions. The podcast mentions it as a specific car they found or dealt with during their trip.

Term

carplay

"Okay. So I have to ask, are you team carplay or not? Well, I'm Android. But. Okay. Well, Android Auto?"

CarPlay lets an iPhone connect to the car so you can use apps on the car’s screen. The host is basically asking which phone/infotainment setup you prefer.

Term

Android Auto

"Okay. So I have to ask, are you team carplay or not? Well, I'm Android. But. Okay. Well, Android Auto? Yes. But yes, I, I have a problem with the systems that they have set up in some of these cars,"

Android Auto lets you connect your Android phone to the car and use apps like maps on the car’s screen. The host is talking about whether they prefer Android Auto or Apple CarPlay.

Car

Kia Telluride

"But, you know, I was in the Kia Telluride driving to and from Indianapolis... I haven't found the easy way to navigate between Apple CarPlay and the native system."

The Kia Telluride is a family SUV with three rows. The host’s issue is that switching between Apple CarPlay and the car’s own menus was more complicated than it should be.

Term

FM radios

"he had to get into the FM radios and scroll through. Then if you wanted to go back to Apple CarPlay..."

FM radios are the traditional over-the-air radio band used for broadcasting music and talk stations. In the segment, the host contrasts FM radio controls with phone-based audio via CarPlay, highlighting how switching modes can be slower and distracting.

Term

infotainment systems

"I feel like you've written something about this recently about, like systems, I don't know if it was specifically related to CarPlay, but about infotainment systems."

Infotainment systems are the car’s main screen and controls for things like music and navigation. This matters because some systems are easier to use than others while you’re driving.

Term

software-defined vehicles

"manufacturers have spent so much time developing infotainment systems and software-defined vehicles and such that they should be able to get this right and they can't."

A software-defined vehicle is one where software controls a lot of what the car does. That can be convenient, but if the software isn’t well designed, the car can feel frustrating or inconsistent.

Term

wireless charging

"My question is, why can't automakers figure out wireless charging in cars? So I feel you on the infotainment system."

Wireless charging lets you charge your phone without plugging in a cable. You just place the phone on a charging pad in the car.

Term

PPF

"And when we come back, we are going to have James Melphie, who is the PPF product manager for Xbellion. And he's going to tell us what a PPF is and why you probably want it on your car."

PPF is a clear film that you put on your car’s paint to help protect it. It can reduce damage from things like road rocks and minor scratches.

Company

Xbellion

"we are going to have James Melphie, who is the PPF product manager for Xbellion. And he's going to tell us what a PPF is and why you probably want it on your car."

Xbellion is a company that makes paint protection film products. The guest is there to explain how PPF works and why people use it on their cars.

Term

paint protection film

"Absolutely. So obviously, paint protection film is kind of what we're known for at Xbell, right? [1369.6s] In short, paint protection film is, it's a physical barrier for your paint, right? It is [1376.0s] a film that can go on the paint, stop rocks, prevent scratching and preserve your car."

Paint protection film is a protective layer that sticks to your car’s paint. It helps keep the paint looking newer by reducing chips and scratches from road stuff.

Term

stealth product

"And then now let's modify. Let's kind of, let's change some things up. And that's where we kind [1482.2s] of have like our stealth product, which adds like this really cool satin kind of"

A “stealth” PPF product typically refers to a satin/matte-finish paint protection film. Instead of looking glossy like clear film, it changes the visual appearance while still providing impact and scratch protection.

Term

stealth kind of creates this really cool satin effect

"want something totally different, right? That's where stealth kind of creates this really cool satin effect. And then recently we launched our color paint protection film, which"

They’re talking about a low-gloss “stealth” look. It makes the car look more muted instead of shiny, usually using a special film over the paint.

Term

vehicle wrap

"So how is this different than just like a vehicle wrap, or is it the same thing? Yeah. So, you know, historically, vinyl wrapping films have kind of been the solution for color change"

A vehicle wrap is a vinyl sticker-like film that changes the car’s color or adds designs. It’s usually more about looks than heavy protection from chips and scratches.

Term

vinyl wrapping films

"Yeah. So, you know, historically, vinyl wrapping films have kind of been the solution for color change and to adding graphics and stripes and you name it over the years, right?"

Vinyl wrapping films are the material used for most color-change wraps. They’re mainly for changing the look, not for strong protection against rock chips or scratches.

Term

mils of material

"So you're getting a color, you're getting, call it, 43 to four mils of material. So that's really not going to stop a rock."

“Mils” is a way to measure how thick a film is. Thicker film generally protects better, and the speaker is comparing thickness between wraps and paint protection film.

Term

self healing top coat

"And if you do get minor scratching, we have a self healing top coat that can [1645.9s] with heat, magically, they all go away."

This is a clear protective layer that can “fix” small scratches. When you add heat, the surface can smooth out so the scratch is much less noticeable.

Term

traditional wrapping films

"much longer than, than say like traditional wrapping films. Okay. [1663.3s] No, that makes a lot of sense."

Vinyl “wrap” films are often used to change a car’s look. The host is saying PPF is different—more like a dedicated protective shield meant to last and protect the paint better.

Term

warranty

"Obviously, we have a very robust warranty. It's 10 plus years. It's, it's, [1686.3s] it's there for the long term."

Here, “warranty” means the company promises the product will work for a certain amount of time. They’re saying the film is backed for 10+ years if it’s installed and used as intended.

Concept

sacrificial barrier

"wow, this was a, this was the [1745.0s] sacrificial barrier. I mean, this thing has taken some hits, but I can,"

A sacrificial barrier is something you put on the car that’s meant to get scratched instead of the real paint. Later, you can remove it and the paint underneath should look much better.

Term

front bumper

"sometimes, you know, a customer may just do the front bumper and that's a great baseline. You know, I mean, it's better than nothing."

The front bumper gets hit the most by small rocks and debris. That’s why some people choose to protect just the front bumper first instead of covering the whole car.

Term

hard paint

"there's also a conversation of what kind of paint is it? Is it a soft paint? Is it hard paint?"

Some car paints resist scratches better than others. If the paint is “hard,” it’s generally less prone to damage, but PPF can still add extra protection.

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soft paint

"there's also a conversation of what kind of paint is it? Is it a soft paint? Is it hard paint?"

Some car paints are easier to scratch than others. If the paint is “softer,” a protective film like PPF can help because it creates a tougher top layer.

Term

expel facility

"And I think when you go to an expel facility, those are the conversations I think you should have: it's like, okay, how much do we do? Where do we do it?"

An “Expel facility” refers to a shop that installs paint protection film using a brand/program associated with Expel. The speaker frames these as places where you can discuss coverage area, placement, and installation details that drive the final price.

Term

DAP

"So to kind of give you a little deep dive in there, so we have DAP, which is our software. What that means is if you have, let's say that Toyota Sienna, you type in 2026, Toyota Sienna, your trim level, and all the patterns of all the panels populate."

DAP is the software that helps create the cut templates for the protective film. You tell it what car you have, and it generates the shapes so the film fits the body panels better.

Car

Toyota Sienna

"So to kind of give you a little deep dive in there, so we have DAP, which is our software. What that means is if you have, let's say that Toyota Sienna, you type in 2026, Toyota Sienna, your trim level, and all the patterns of all the panels populate."

They’re using the Toyota Sienna as an example of a specific car model. The idea is that the film pieces can be cut to match the shape of that car so they fit cleanly.

Term

black lacquer

"I hate black lacquer on the interior of vehicles. And I've recently heard of people like wrapping it or covering it. Is that something that Expel would do?"

Black lacquer is a shiny black finish used on some interior parts. It looks great, but it can show fingerprints and scratches, so people sometimes cover it to keep it looking new.

Term

piano black trim

"that also drives me crazy as well. Just being the swore marks on like the piano black trim, it's like, why do we have so much of this material in modern cars?"

Piano black trim is the shiny black interior trim you can see in many modern cars. The problem is it scratches and shows marks very easily, so people look for protective coverings.

Term

eight nil

"Yeah, so it's the same. It's the same material as the exterior. It's that same eight nil super robust self healing film."

“Eight nil” refers to the film thickness in mils (thousandths of an inch). Thicker PPF generally offers more protection against chips and abrasion, which is why the host connects it to robustness and scratch resistance.

Term

matted effect

"But you can do our stealth, which is that matted effect. That's incredibly popular, especially like Tesla screens and things like that."

A matted effect means the surface looks matte instead of shiny. It can make scratches and fingerprints less obvious and gives a different style.

Term

carbon fiber trim

"You could certainly do it in color, like I've kicked around the idea of like, okay, do I take the where the carbon fiber trim is and just do like a pop of color, you know, something something something crazy."

Carbon fiber trim is an interior or exterior accent made to resemble (or be) carbon fiber weave. In this segment, the host suggests using colored PPF to add contrast around carbon-fiber-looking areas.

Term

matte paint

"I mean, we talked about, you know, walking on eggshells. I mean, matte paint, it's one of those things where if you do get a scratch, it's not like we can grab a polisher and start polishing, right? If you do that, we're going to make, turn the matte paint glossy."

Matte paint is the “flat” look on a car. If you try to polish out a scratch like you would on shiny paint, it can accidentally make that area look shiny instead of flat.

Term

quick detailer

"So we're, you're very limited in terms of maintenance, not to mention you need prop the matte specific shampoo and matt specific quick detailer and all this stuff, you need all these things that aren't readily available, right?"

A quick detailer is a spray you use to clean the car quickly between full washes. For matte paint, you usually need a special matte-safe version so you don’t accidentally change the flat finish.

Term

body shop

"Because if you do ever get to a point where you need to go to the body shop, then becomes the matching issue. Not every body shop is going to be able to match that paint."

A body shop is where cars go for repairs to the outside—like fixing dents and repainting. Matte paint is tricky because the shop has to match the exact flat look, not just the color.

Term

sheen

"we designed our stealth product to have a very similar sheen to a lot of OEM matte paints. So we were... seeing, okay, how does our product look in comparison to that, that paint work?"

Sheen describes how glossy or reflective a surface appears, even when the paint is “matte.” For matte paint protection, matching sheen matters because the film can change the perceived finish and make repairs or the protected areas look inconsistent.

Term

pattern system

"Yeah. So obviously, DAP, our pattern system, that's where that is an absolute lifesaver, because it's all patterned and digitized for us."

A pattern system means the protective film is cut into the right shapes for the car’s body. That helps it fit smoothly on curved panels instead of looking bumpy.

Car

Lamborghini Rivalto

"... a, you know, let's, you know, like a Lamborghini Rivalto rear diffuser. Okay. Pretty crazy, we can say. So..."

The Lamborghini Revuelto is a very high-end sports car made for maximum performance. It has special aerodynamic parts on the back that help it handle airflow at speed. The podcast is pointing out those kinds of design details.

Term

relief cuts

"And there's what I would call relief cuts. So what a relief cut is you have, you have this one bumper, right, this one pattern. But within the pattern are all these little incisions to allow the film to contour to move this way to move that way."

Relief cuts are tiny cuts in the clear film that let it bend around tricky curves. Without them, the film can’t follow the shape as smoothly.

Term

stretching

"Obviously, there is installation technique. There is stretching involved to allow the pattern to sit in a certain way."

Stretching is when the installer gently pulls the clear film so it can fit over curved parts of the car. Done right, it helps the film stay smooth and properly stuck.

Term

window film

"whatever it is, PPF, window film, ceramic coatings, I think the best place to start is to talk with [2540.7s] the professional, have the conversation, bring your car, you know, kind of talk about what the [2546.2s] issues are, you know, do you already have chips?"

Window film is a thin sheet you stick onto the windows. It can help with sun/heat and can also protect the glass a bit.

Term

ceramic coatings

"whatever it is, PPF, window film, ceramic coatings, I think the best place to start is to talk with [2540.7s] the professional, have the conversation, bring your car, you know, kind of talk about what the [2546.2s] issues are, you know, do you already have chips?"

Ceramic coatings are liquid polymer coatings that bond to a car’s paint to create a hydrophobic (water-repelling) surface. They’re used to make the paint easier to clean and to add protection against light contaminants and UV exposure.

Company

xpel.com

"All right. And so to be clear, it's xpel.com. Yes, yes, yes. [2589.3s] All right. Well, thank you, James, for joining us today."

XPEL is a company that makes clear protective film for car paint. Saying “xpel.com” is basically pointing you to where that product is from.

Car

Pontiac Fiero

"And we had many conversations about Pontiac Fierros. He used to have one. And so the topic of the quiz this week is the Pontiac Fiero. Okay. All right. So here's where the twist comes in."

The Pontiac Fiero is a Pontiac sports car that was made in the 1980s. What makes it stand out is that the engine sits closer to the middle of the car, which is less common on many American cars.

Term

mid-engine sports car

"The Pontiac Fiero was the first mass-produced mid-engine sports car built by an American automaker. Oh, there are lots of mid-engine cars and Chevrolet tried to bring out a mid-engine Corvette years before, but by an American automaker."

A mid-engine sports car puts the engine closer to the middle of the car instead of the front. That can make the car feel more balanced when turning.

Term

2.8-liter B6 engine

"question number two, which company helped develop the 2.8-liter B6 engine used in later versions of the Pontiac Fiero? Was it A, Chevrolet, or B, Buick?"

This is a specific V6 engine used in some Pontiac Fieros. “2.8-liter” is the engine’s size, and the “B6” part is basically the engine’s internal code so you know which exact version it is.

Term

V6

"Oh, the General Motors had a lot of V6s in the 80s, and they were all similar sized and similar design, but not exactly."

A V6 is an engine with six cylinders. The cylinders are arranged in a V shape, and it’s a popular engine type because it can be smooth and powerful.

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