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Honda WTF??? | Episode 1049

Honda WTF??? | Episode 1049

CarEdge Live Apr 11, 2026 29 min
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Ray and Zach kick off with Honda’s viral “garage door subscription” controversy, explaining how HomeLink-style convenience is being gated behind connected-software paywalls after a free trial—sparking outrage and comparisons to Toyota remote-start trials and BMW heated-seat subscriptions. They then pivot to right-to-repair, highlighting John Deere’s $99M settlement and the push for independent access to diagnostic tools, arguing proprietary software keeps repair costs high. The show also covers slow-selling VW ID.4/ID. Buzz production pauses and KBB data showing new-vehicle prices rising faster than incentives, widening affordability gaps.

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Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Concept

negotiat[e] for you

"...have been providing car buying services back at CarEdge.com. We'll contact dealers and even negotiate for you. Learn more back on the website, CarEdge.com."

They’re saying they’ll work with the dealer to try to get you a better deal. Instead of you doing all the back-and-forth, they handle part of the negotiation.

Brand

Honda

"...Dad, Honda, that's where we're starting today... What the F is going on over at Honda... Honda drivers now have to pay a subscription to open their garage door."

Honda is the car brand being talked about. The big news is that some Honda owners are hearing they may need a paid subscription for a convenience feature related to opening a garage door.

Concept

connected-car subscription

"...Honda drivers now have to pay a subscription to open their garage door. What happened over at Honda, Dad? And actually, there's been significant updates to this story."

Some newer cars can connect to the internet, and the company may charge you to keep certain features working. It’s like paying for premium features in a phone app, but inside the car.

Term

HomeLink

"And so anyway, we have all these technology, one's called HomeLink. It's been around for like 30, 40 years. And you could program your garage door open into your own button in your car and just push the button and it would open the garage."

HomeLink is a feature in some cars that lets you open your garage door from a button in the car. You set it up once, and then you don’t need a separate remote.

Brand

Toyota

"And the tricky part about this stat is these automakers. This is not the first time we've seen it. Toyota is another great example of this."

Toyota is mentioned because they’ve done something similar—offering a connected feature for free at first, then charging you afterward. It’s an example of the broader trend.

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remote start

"And then it was $15 to $25 a month for you to be able to have remote start on your vehicle. That's the challenge with this."

Remote start means you can start the car without being inside it. Some brands make you pay monthly to keep that feature working after the free trial.

Company

John Deere

"We are going to talk about John Deere, y'all. We do not talk about John Deere on this channel."

John Deere makes big farm machines like tractors. In this story, they’re being discussed because of a legal settlement about whether independent repair shops can access the tools needed to fix that equipment.

Concept

digital diagnostic maintenance and repair tools

"The agricultural manufacturing giant will also make a digital diagnostic maintenance and repair tools available to third parties for 10 years."

These are computer tools used to figure out what’s wrong and how to fix it. If they’re available to more than just the dealer, independent shops can repair equipment more easily.

Concept

class action lawsuit

"It agreed to pay $99 million into a fund... for farms and individuals who participated in a class action lawsuit..."

A class action lawsuit is when lots of people with similar complaints team up in one legal case. The settlement money can then be shared with people who were affected.

Concept

authorized dealers

"...specifically that money is available to those involved who paid John Deere authorized dealers for large equipment repairs from January 2018."

Authorized dealers are the official repair shops approved by the manufacturer. The story is saying that when independent repair is harder, people end up paying these dealers for repairs.

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independent mechanics

"...they don't make those tools and that software available to independent mechanics. So you are forced to have to deal with one of their dealers."

Independent mechanics are regular repair shops that aren’t tied to one car brand. The right-to-repair fight is partly about whether these shops can get the same diagnostic information dealers use.

Concept

right to repair law

"And there are states that have been on the forefront of this for automotive. Massachusetts is one that passed a right to repair law. I don't know if it's still, if it has actually gone into effect yet or if it's still being litigated."

Right-to-repair rules are meant to stop companies from blocking independent mechanics. They help owners pick a repair shop and still get the information and parts needed to fix the vehicle.

Concept

MSRP

"...selling for outrageous prices like close to their original MSRP's simply because it was so much cheaper to maintain something that was pre-computer,"

MSRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price) is the price a manufacturer recommends for a new product. The transcript contrasts MSRP with resale pricing for older equipment, implying that maintenance costs and repair access affect long-term value.

Concept

pre-computer

"...selling for outrageous prices like close to their original MSRP's simply because it was so much cheaper to maintain something that was pre-computer,"

“Pre-computer” means older machines that weren’t run by as much electronics and software. Those older systems are often simpler to diagnose and repair without special manufacturer-only tools.

Concept

KISS, keep it simple, stupid

"...maybe sometimes we're better off keeping stuff simple. I mean, there's that old saying, kiss, keep it simple, stupid."

KISS means “keep it simple.” The simpler the design, the fewer things can break and the easier it is to fix.

Concept

take your losses

"I just write it off now, take your losses, move along with life, you know, and and whatever dealer still have some, you know, buy them back from the dealer, send them to send them wherever you want to send them"

“Take your losses” means admitting the deal didn’t work out and moving on. In car sales, it can mean dealers end up stuck with vehicles and have to get rid of them.

Concept

buy them back from the dealer

"whatever dealer still have some, you know, buy them back from the dealer, send them to send them wherever you want to send them, send them to independent repair shops"

Sometimes a car company will buy cars back from a dealership if they can’t sell them. It helps the dealer reduce the amount of unsold inventory they’re stuck with.

Concept

EVs

"This so many manufacturers made so many bad bets when it came to EVs, not just in the United States, but globally as well. You know, there is a market for EVs."

EVs are cars that run on electricity instead of gasoline. The point here is that some companies bet big on EVs, but the market wasn’t as strong as they expected.

Concept

Chattanooga facility

"but it'll free up production space and capabilities in the Chattanooga facility where where they're built. And word has it that they're going to be looking to build more atlases."

Chattanooga is a place where cars are built. The point here is that if one model isn’t selling, the factory can switch to building something else.

Car

Volkswagen ID Buzz

"But yeah, this this was this and the ID buzz. You know, we're two perfect examples that people at Volkswagen said, yeah, let's do it."

The Volkswagen ID Buzz is an electric van from Volkswagen. They’re mentioning it as another EV that didn’t perform the way the company hoped in the market.

Concept

stick shift

"At least Zach's girlfriend knows her way around a stick. Yes, exactly. She knows how to drive a stick shift."

A stick shift is a car with a manual transmission. You have to use the clutch and shift gears yourself instead of the car doing it automatically.

Car

Bentley EXP 100 GT

"Tom, give me your humble opinion on the Bentley EXP 100 GT. All right, give me one second. Bentley EXP 100 GT. Oh, this is going to be cool, dad."

Bentley’s EXP 100 GT is a concept car—basically a “look what we might build next” vehicle. People talk about it because it shows off Bentley’s future design ideas, including how it could work with advanced automation.

Term

autonomous car

"I mean, dad, it's supposed to be a fully autonomous car that you're going to be driving around in 2035."

An autonomous car is one that can drive itself. Instead of you steering the whole time, the car uses technology to do the driving.

Term

refundable deposit

"You can secure one with a $100 refundable deposit? I don't think so, dad."

A refundable deposit is a small payment you make to hold a car reservation. If you change your mind, you should be able to get that money back.

Company

Kelly Blue Book

"We've got the latest Kelly Blue Book data. The headline reads, new vehicle price increases accelerated march as large trucks and SUVs gain share."

Kelly Blue Book (KBB) is a well-known company that helps estimate car prices. When they publish data about new car prices and incentives, it’s a good clue about what’s happening in the market.

Term

M car

"We're just going to concentrate on the 15% of the population that can buy the M car and the hell with the rest of the year."

“M car” is shorthand for BMW’s M division performance models (BMW M). The speaker uses it to make a point about affordability—suggesting that pricing and incentives are being targeted toward higher-income buyers who can afford BMW M vehicles.

Concept

pricing power

"Giving a pricing power doesn't make sense if you're a corporation. They have pricing power. Why would they give it up?"

Pricing power means a business can charge higher prices and still sell enough to stay profitable. If customers keep buying, the company doesn’t feel pressure to lower prices.

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inventories sitting around

"Obviously, if there's not demand and there are inventories sitting around, you do give up your pricing power. You do incentivize."

“Inventories sitting around” means unsold vehicles are piling up at dealers or in the supply chain. When inventory builds, automakers and dealers typically need to offer incentives or price cuts to move units.

Concept

unaffordability

"It's a sad reminder of the current state of how unaffordable many of these things are that, to be clear, are necessities."

The speaker frames affordability as a major market constraint affecting who can buy vehicles and how often. When costs rise across fuel, maintenance, insurance, and vehicle prices, fewer people can justify purchasing or upgrading.

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Great Recession

"...I believe, built on the flimsiest house of cars that we have seen since the Great Recession."

The Great Recession was a big economic crash that made it harder for people to buy things and get loans. The speaker is saying the car market feels unstable like that time.

Company

CarEdge.com

"CarEdge.com, the sponsor, I would say, even of today's program, is CarEdge.com. We provide a car buying service."

CarEdge.com is the website sponsoring the show. They help with finding and negotiating for a car, and they’re also testing a new search feature.

Concept

beta car search

"CarEdge.com, which is linked down below, is our new beta car search. So please use the new car search and share your feedback with us."

A beta car search is an early, test version of a car-finding tool. The hosts ask listeners to use it and share feedback, which helps improve the search results and user experience.

Brand

Progressive

"Drivers who switch and save with Progressive save over $900 on average. Pop over to Progressive.com, answer some questions, and you'll get a quick quote with discounts that are easy to come by."

Progressive is an insurance company. They’re advertising that you can save money on auto insurance by getting a quote.

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