I NEED This V12 | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep 12

So what is new this week?

Will the compressor up man

Hey

Junk you said it was old used compressor

Well, I mean it wasn't used when I got it. I got it brand new, but it was a while ago

That's right

I was telling somebody in front of the wife that it was like it's like more than 20 20 years old 20 years old

She's like I got it for you and we've been together 15. I'm like, oh, yeah

Better get my story straight

So yeah, I was about 15 years older. I bet somewhere in there, but I

Gave I can definitely tell just change just getting a new a new compressor. I know it has more CFM

But just the like actual runtime like it was running a way too long. That's why I kept burning out

Electric motors it was like that. We're on the third electric motor

So it's like do I put an electric motor on it again?

Or do I just get a new compressor and I think getting the new compressor is definitely the answer

I guess a lot. It's a lot faster. Yeah, probably overdoing the duty cycle on the electric motor. So they couldn't cool down

Yeah, definitely it's when when we went back there after I noticed that we had no air it was smelled like a

Burnt electric motor. It's pretty awesome

Yeah, yeah, and the pump turns like free

pretty easily

So I'm pretty sure it's like it's just straight worn out, but it's definitely not worth fixing

Not for you can get a compressor

Probably put that never in town place

Yeah, I thought about putting it up on marketplace, but it could also

Not that I want to keep any efficient

Air compressor, but I used to have it in my garage at home and I could just put an electric motor on it and just run it for

At home. It's not like I'm gonna be doing

like painting cars at home or anything

so

Yeah, I think I could use it at home, but not like I really need it either. I mean, it's just a big

No easy corner taker, you know

Never see enough space in the garage. We got a new

The old one was like 14 CFM at 90 psi and this one's

almost 18 CFM at

170 psi

And the important thing is it's yellow. So it really really shows the quality. Oh, yeah

Well, it was the only thing that was a there was like almost the exact same

exact same pump just like a little bit different configuration of the

Gages on it at a different place that was a little bit cheaper, but

We would have had to wait until Saturday, you know, we would have been out of air

So I was like a couple hundred dollars more or three hundred dollars more

I can have it the next day and actually still make money. So that's the route we went

Yeah, I'm sure you can make more than three hundred dollars in a few days. Yeah, that's the idea anyway, right?

Yeah, and then we picked up me and my buddy Travis from a Draxler service picked up this Mustang here

It's definitely down the line work, but we're

Excuse me. We're getting

Just getting our ducks in a row and trying to get be as prepared as we possibly can and

It was just taking a broad space as far as he's he was until we could get to it

So it was kind of you to get it here and get a game plan for spring time when we can actually start working it into the schedule

So that's kind of what we're doing, but he's it's pretty cool. It's not going like

Really?

Rest all mighty too far. It's gonna be

Just all kind of a hardcore Mustang. I

Forelink in the back and upgraded front suspension and then like a hot small block. He doesn't want like a big block or any sort of

Modular motor or anything like that. You just want to take some like a high displacement small block or something like that

Kind of corky and high revving is what he wants. I guess we'll see

nice

My friend had a Fox body with a 454 small block forward in it. That was do it. Wow

I used to go to the track with him a little bit and a thing would just do wheel stands on

Jesus braided carbureted motor

Wow

Yeah, these mustings are so light

I mean as long as you do like the minimal stuff to them that there's like there's no way to these cars are so so light so

Right, I'm 500 for 500 horse is gonna go a long way and something like that

I think four or 500 horsepower

Naturally aspirated goes a long way just about everything. I

Don't know. I mean our Bronco has close to that and it's not that impressive. I mean it it gets out of its own way, but

I guess I should say maybe it's more is it closer to 300 horse and it's like 400 foot bones of torque

But I don't think it's three. I don't think it's water horse. That's wild

Could be a gearing thing too

It's got 10 of them

That's just seems like a lot of opportunity for problems

I

Don't know I've talked to transmission guys and they're like talking about these kinds of transmissions

They're like we'll never have to be inside of them. Basically saying that they're pretty well built

Yeah, that's good. That's what I was kind of dumbfounded by that too

It's like seems like a lot of a lot more parts to go wrong. He's like they're just built too good. Okay

Sounds quite suspect to me. It sounds like it's a challenge accepted

So after all that talk about how you don't like hauling vehicles around you're picking up vehicles for customers

Me I didn't pick it up Travis did I just rolled with him

Yeah, it's not my rig

Yeah, he got paid to move it like it's it's they do hauling too so they do towing hauling

Restoration all kinds of stuff so that's cool out of body mechanics. They gas station. They got all that stuff there

Sounds like the setup

It's it's quite set up. Yeah, like oh no, I

Have yeah, so it's going on with me, man

I've been geeking out all week, and I've been holding out telling you about it. I

Have a new obsession I

Found out that Toyota made a production v12 for like 20 years

And

It's I found out I can get one for a couple grand

What and I found out it bolts to my tundra transmission away

We're doing it I think you have to know so oh you fucked up you should have just went that route right away

Uh

It's gonna be expensive by the time I do all the engine management and everything but up

so I was watching a video and it was this guy in his

Toyota century which is like a Toyota's

You know premium luxury car their coach built. There's like sure special factory forum

Everything's hand-done hand wet sanded well all the like seams are brazed by hand and then metal shaped out

I mean, it's a super. They've got specs on how thick the paint can be how many layers of paint can be sure

There's super spec'd out top of the line, you know, they're like their presidential car for Japan and

They put a v12 in them from 1997 or 1998 through 2017 or 2016

America's not an American car not an American

Sure

It's the only production v12 Japan ever had

And apparently it's quite similar

because it's the same years as the

V8 that they put in my tundra they put in you know the American luxury cars like the LS 400

It's all kind of super similar engineering

Forge crankshaft forge connecting rods

Same reliability if not better because they're made in like a coach built scenario where there's the same guys

Yeah, sure everything is super documented in that facility and everything like that

I saw this video this guy was he bought a century in Japan

Some youtuber paid some shop to put like an

$18,000 stainless exhaust setup on it like a super tuned exhaust so it sounds like an F1 car

And he's driving on this huge

Like saloon sedan, you know

Just a huge luxury and he's like pulling up the supercar meets and they're revving their McLaren's and stuff in that video

Yeah, wow, so that's what was in that car interesting

What's like a stock spec horsepower on something like that like 300 horse something like that so in the 90s

Japan have agreement across all manufacturers that they wouldn't go above a certain

280 horsepower so like all the turbo cars and everything is like supposedly under 280 horsepower

So their spec horsepower is 276 and then they're 400 something foot pounds

But I guess they were never 276 they were like 300 something sure

If a guy was to get that

Throw some nice headers on it change the intake manifold up because it's since it's for a luxury car. Everything is made to be

First log style manifolds on it the intake is quite a elaborate setup that is made for smooth long torque

And what what do you use for managing that?

How do you fucking?

How do you do use engine management? What do you do? What do you use for that fuck?

So from the factory, this is what it gets wild. It had two ECU is one for each bank

Christ and I guess even back then they had it set up so it would shut six cylinders off when you got to like cruising speed and stuff like that

So like the GM wasn't then you said well

Yeah, so very headed

Yeah, so stock it has two ECU's all the engines I'm looking at imported come with the ECU's the wiring harness

Yeah

Did they come in anything other than of like rear wheel drive setup

Rear wheel drive

Sure

They didn't build it for like an exotic or a sports car. They'd like literally they were like

Yeah, it's just that they would have a that that size of an engine and not use it for something else

It's interesting

Sure

Obviously, it's five liter, you know, they only read like six thousand horsepower or six thousand rpms, which is like

For the sounds coming out of it, fuck, yeah

You got to think how many exhaust pulses there are per revolution. Yeah, yeah

Pretty good

The way I was thinking about it is I wanted to turbo my V8

To get some more power out of it, but the as I've already found out when I blew my V8 the connecting rods are very lean

So I would have to do connecting rods in mind to make more power

And then I wanted to get an exhaust build an exhaust that was tuned to raise the frequency of

The sound coming out which I would have done

You know how to have baffles and then there's these chambers that you have come off

They call like a J pipe comes off the side to reflect the sound back and introduce

So I was gonna do all that to get this

Sound

Like okay, so I already have to tear the motor part and put connecting rods in it

I would already planned on putting, you know, a thousand dollars into an exhaust that I was still gonna have to engineer and build

That pretty much pays for a V12

So how much do you think it would be cost to create it and have it brought over here a thousand bucks like two a thousand bucks

probably there's one right now

online

For $1500 on sale from a JDM importer and they'll ship to my door for $400 so $1900 I don't know why you haven't pulled the trigger yet

Because I just rebuilt an engine in my truck and all this other stuff

It's the whole the whole time you're talking about your exhaust. I'm thinking myself dude

You blew your engine up and then and then decided that's the determining factor

Just to do in the truck and now you're like ace that shit. I need to ace that shit now, too

It's so good. I I knew that there was a

B12, you know, it was in the back of my head a long time ago

I'd seen that those centuries had a V12, but I was like, oh, that's because I knew that

You know big luxury sedan with

But it didn't register much because they weren't in America

I did you should probably buy two of those

You know Sam I get what you're after

And then I was like I saw that and it rekindled like oh crap, and then I looked and they're actually available

An expensive one in America is about four grand

but there are

You can get them in America for two grand

So they're every private

You can get them for two thousand dollars

You've got like internal parts for them. Can you buy shit for them though?

Sounds scary

Sure, but I would suspect that they're pretty probably like not

Probably pretty mild engine in general

You know the reason the luxury cars like the Rolls and the Bentley's they all run a V10 V12 is because they have like

smooth power

Right so many pistons running and you don't have a vibrating engine because of the frequency of the fire

Also

Yeah, I there's a Lincoln Zephyr for sale at

Draxler's that I when I worked there and I had

It was all kind of I think majority of it was original paint

so we buffed it all out and stuff, but they totally rebuilt the V12 and

The advertisement for that was like lighting a cigarette and then setting it on the engine and it would not

It would just sit there and like they wouldn't fall off and yeah, it ran that smooth. They're like ultra smooth

Well, you wouldn't believe it like

For it was like the last one some of them some people don't consider it. I think it's a 41 or 42

There's a 46

It's like the really really goofy looking one

It's almost got like sideways grill. It's not like it's not the super desirable version and it's a four-door

It's got a run running drivetrain V12 drivetrain, which is definitely worth if somebody had a Zephyr that didn't have that

It's worth the money that they're asking for it. I think they're asking like 30 something for it

Oh

Yeah, it's got like

It's it's got some really crazy features like overdrive on a button on the dash. I think something like that some crazy shit

So I found I did a little research saw that I could buy these in the in the US already imported and I walked up

No, I gotta save a couple grand

No, I just found out Toyota has a V12 that'll bolt to my truck transmission

That's fucking good. Yeah, that's really good. Oh

That's pretty good. Did you follow anything any SEMA stuff at all this last week?

Looking at it here and there

Haven't been consuming too much of the internet this week, but definitely

For the five minutes, I'll flip on the Instagram or something like that. I have definitely been seeing some

Yeah, definitely there's some of the stuff is pretty crazy there

That Vinnie's hot rods that I think was a 70 mustang on a ride home and that things

Really really really really nice like it wins it wins for me

It's just fucking slam

Right, I mean the precision and in wasa had a booth there and

There they just had like the 70s truck that had all original paint on it

But I think it was just to highlight their product on it. Obviously, so

But yeah, I want to talk to you about them those guy you're gonna get your connection with that guy for

maybe something

future maybe I

When I they had my car at their facility, I knew that they kind of showed me there was two SEMA builds that they were working with

Yeah, they're everywhere that when they I didn't realize when as soon as I started following them on on social media, they're like

Everywhere they got booth set up everywhere. I don't know if it's the same person or not, but

Yeah

Yeah, yeah

It's just kind of strange when they're like right down the road

Right super strange. Yeah, definitely especially when they're made like almost all the aftermarket rubber made for old cars

Is made like right down the road. It's pretty crazy

Seen that Tremac came out with a six speed for C8 Corvettes

But that's pretty rad. Oh, yeah, I did see that too. Yeah, I think you sent it to me actually

Yes, look, I mean, I that's pretty crazy. I think that's pretty cool

Can't wait to see people cutting them things up. I'd love to do it

But I think if I bought one I'd be like, I don't know

Like just doing this and shifting and being faster that somebody made a comment on like

40 grand and you still have to install it and it's slower. It's like, yeah, you're not wrong

But it would be a lot a lot of fun

Well, for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah, I mean I can

Do

Yeah, can you imagine something that has never had a manual transmission

Adapting it to it. It's not gonna be like a cheap easy thing 40 grand for the transmission and then adapting everything

Just trying to get linkage up to the front. You're gonna have 10 grand and just trying to do that

Didn't see that

Yeah

Yeah, I guess however they would work like a remote shifting mechanism, you know, that would be the easiest

Somehow they could do that. Yeah, maybe there is like some sort of electric

I have no idea

Everything else is drunk, but

Everything else is by wire, right?

Yeah

Yeah, the I thought I seen a video of a C8. It was like at what is that race track in California Laguna or something?

Laguna Seca coming around a corner and it like lost. I don't know if it's that the

Those C8s are a drive-by break or drive by wire in the brakes

But that's kind of what it claimed and the brakes went out and it just like instead of turning the corner

It kind of just hit the wall and that's what the video claimed is that they were the brakes just completely failed didn't even turn on

That's pretty scary, but also

It's a C8 on a racetrack. I mean who knows what is factory on it. What's not, you know

Steering I want a linkage

I want hydraulic. I want I want you still to be able to push the brakes even if the battery dies or something

Well, do you think it almost be especially on a race car like a pedal thing if you want to be able to feel it a little bit

I don't know. Maybe that's just me

My race car driver no race car driver

Yeah, yeah, this the 66 over here has got electric electric assist steering

It's got a big electric motor on the steering column underneath the dash and

It's makes it really tough to work on makes it really tough to install

There's just to get parts installed around it. It takes up a lot of room. So

It's been a challenge

Even till now just get installing it by yourself is like a fucking nightmare kind of

Just heavy and awkward

Like super heavy on the one side

I have seen a lot of people switching to the they get the Tesla brake booster

It's just a like a

Hydro boost electric hydro boost thing

Staying to that has that as well

It's got like I think after you lose power you still have what did I read like?

90 pumps in the pedal or something like that like it was a lot of pressure it built like yeah

It's I'm sure it's less than that in real life, but it's hard to say

You don't even remember the honest

Yeah, great fail. It's hard to keep all those like product companies in your brain

Yeah, just a couple

Yeah, we definitely have enough in the door right now to do

Yeah, you know, it's hard to complain

When the when the whole goal is to that, you know, when you have a full plate when the goal is to eat, you know, because that's saying

Like that

Yeah, yeah, so new compressor going got a couple days on it now I

Ran out of argon then after I got one of the scoops welded in the Mustang

I ran out argon on Thursday afternoon, so

Switched to doing some other stuff Friday morning, and then we had to get the car Friday middle of the day the southern

67 years

Yeah

66 this week

Yeah, I try and fit in as much as I could as much as I could with everything going on as the compressor thing and

Yeah, it was a lot anyway

Yeah, I got a lot of the scoop stuff done. I got the quarter panel drop off on the

Driver's side ready to weld on I was gonna start tacking it together swap the tank over and it was like oh, yeah

This one's empty too shit

Make sure to label your empty empty tanks argon because I

Didn't when I lifted the tank on I'm like, oh, no like I hope I just

Oh

Yeah, so

Whatever they're coming Wednesday, so I just I have enough stuff to do to I just had to shift gears and started working on the

Actually started metal finishing out the hood because it was never I got the

The welds kind of finished out a little bit and stretch back out, but never really actually finished

So now I got the hood

All the high spots shrunk down and that's actually looking like there'll be very very minimal mud in it

which is kind of a goal so

Then I got up the rear valence as well because it so the quarter panels in the back drop down on the on the 66

To match the the rockers that we extended down and then so when you look at it from the back of the car

then it almost looks like

This big weird wedgy thing because it's the quarter panels coming up so extended down the corners of the

rear valence to kind of start at this

Swooping fashion that we're kind of it's gonna kind of come around to the quarter panel

So from the back, it's gonna look really aesthetically pleasing the whole idea is like from any angle

You're not seeing a bad

Like a bad line on the car

So you like that's why at night when you're walking around the car and channel

I'm trying to visualize a bad angle and if I can find one that's that's usually the problem

not that that we're trying to

like spend all the time changing everything about the car, but if we're going to be doing something and

Fabricating something I'd rather it be like makes sense and flow and have a purpose, you know

You

Mm-hmm

But it was just making like a simple little curve, but sometimes it's standing back and doing a couple tape lines getting the right curve down, you know

Yeah, yeah

Well

Well, yeah, no, there's an inner and an outer and

It was actually pretty tricky welding that in because I didn't want that because that outside lip where it gets welded to the outside of the quarter panel

You can't really get in there to finish it out with any sort like with anything, you know, so you don't really want it to

Shrink up too much and warp too much when you're welding it in

So I made a piece of flat bar steel that kind of followed that curvature and retained the

It really worked really well

It it almost it wasn't wrapped against the backside of the weld

So it didn't the heat soak the weld too bad

But it did take the heat away from right next to the weld so it wouldn't really warp or anything

You never really got really

Wavy or anything so it it helps that the scoops were made out of 18 gauge

So they're really in comparison to the quarter panel very thick

So it helped keep everything a little more sturdy, but yeah, I think it turned out really awesome

But it's welded on the inside of the wheel opening too. I do want to do some sort of

Vent or something so potentially rocks or something wouldn't come back through

And I don't necessarily know that I don't necessarily know that seeing the tire through that is aesthetically pleasing

So I have an idea for some vents that I kind of came up with I kind of had a had a vision on Friday

That it'd be nice to it'd be cool to have like a

Almost like louver vents that comes to like straight down like this

So when you're looking in there like like this kind of almost I don't know if that makes sense, but

I have an idea so

Kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, like yeah, you're right, right, but yeah, I don't know we'll see I

Gotta you know get the car welder the other first before we start thinking about that kind of shit, but

In the wheel arch it hooks off to the side a little bit so it diverts the air to the side and then there's no straight through

It's straight through so the whole idea was to keep that

The panel that continues in the middle of the door that I replaced that that goes all the way through like that that

Plane is like that'll be bodywork like it's one straight plane that'll go all the way through to the scoop

So it doesn't really it just like the it's almost like the continuation of from the front of the of the

Wheel the front wheel opening like the inside of those two body lines

It's just a continuation of that going through that that side scoop

So it's once it's all bodyworked in it'll look really fucking cool like and

The scoop almost looks double as thick because of the reflection of the panel behind it

So it's like it almost it's gives it a weird like it almost from the side looks factory because the line is just the same

But then once you start turning and you're seeing the depth change. It's really really cool

Well that's it wanted they wanted those scoops like the side scoops

The Shelby style that kind of stick out and they look like

To me they just once they start putting all these scoops on the side of the car that stick out it looks really like really I

Don't know it looks

Yeah, it'll just looks yeah fighter jet. I don't know it's just not my thing. So I

Kind of had an idea to make the scoop go all the way through because it just utilizes the what's already there for lines and stuff, you know

To me, it's like kind of the factory

Back like a factory it looks back factory ish

But it's very much like GT 40

like even the late the latest GT 40 each year was different but like the

2018-17-18

Those things are pretty crazy

If you did put

Yeah, I think so at the like basically in the wheel opening into the scoop I think

Yeah, I don't know if you'd be

Go ahead

Exactly, I mean even after we after a fabric them and getting them welded in I'm like we've been getting paint in here is gonna suck

Actually once you get in the wheel opening like I shouldn't do a little video from the inside of the wheel opening because once you look through

From the wheel opening it looks super deep from the from the outside of the car

But from the wheel opening you can shoot you'd be able to shoot in paint primer and paint pretty easily

It's not too good

You're gonna yeah for sure

Should be a good time solid color we're not going metallic

Yeah

Everybody's so worried about complicating their paint

Yeah, I mean, I think there's I think there's some factory flaky colors it like that that

Granterino we did that thing was the call the factory color and I think was beautiful

I guess it's really fucking cool. I don't think I've ever seen a color

nobody really redos like metallic greens and stuff like that, but I

Don't know I do like solid colors myself. That's just my gig, but I can appreciate all

Kines some of them. They just suck worse

My truck is solid black solid white solid red

I

Really like mixing like metal heavy metallic colors with satin clears stuff like that that stuff is really fun

Like if we could do like a dark dark

dark solid green color on the 66 and then have some of the under hood color be like a

Darker medium gray metallic heavy metallic with some satin clear on it would be like

We're trying to retain some of the like factory casting

Like we're not gonna be painting everything under the hood. You know the pro charger the engine block everything is kind of a raw

Raw

Metal look so we're trying not to go to nuts as far as like having everything painted so

Matching some of that would be kind of cool to some extent

Hmm

To me it's almost like things are too pretty to even put your hands on at work on so to me at this car

I mean not like anybody's gonna be getting their hands on and working on it like not you know like old cars or

Whatever

But it you know has to be serviceable workable and you know

Not everything under the hood needs to be is but that ultra beautiful for every customer, you know, not everybody's looking for that

Is that stuff really heat I've never used it before ever is that like got a lot of heat heat resistance

I don't know if they have certain ones. We'll kind of a finish so you can spray it over any finish really

I think it has to be direct to metal. So it's like powder coat

But it's a liquid and then you bake it on. Oh, you have to bake it yet, too

So, okay, okay, okay

That seems like a lot of fucking around I

Think I've seen it done cool on like

Certain certain accent parts that you want to highlight in an engine bay. So you have like, you know, your regular painted

Definitely see the aesthetic to it. It's just man. That's just another layer of tools and I need oven then and shit, you know

Fuck

Yeah, that's where there's there but that's an unfortunate thing about where where I am central Wisconsin

There's not a lot of places like that to sub stuff out to and even if there are it's all it's almost really hard to

Find somebody that's actually good at it, you know, like there's people that do powder coating but

Is it good? I don't know. I haven't seen too many that were like really awesome looking

Yeah, I know high-pressure stales

Like I said, I'm in the Marshfield, Wisconsin

I think I have more I've got like three times more YouTube subscribers than people in my town

It's fucking funny that's not necessarily a bad thing, you know, I don't I don't live in a small town isn't a bad thing

it's just about having a

As a business having the right resources in front of us because I can't do everything and I don't want to do everything

I don't want to be the guy that has like

Not bragging about doing turnkey hot rods. That's not a thing that I I would

Pride myself on I don't have the bandwidth to do all of it, you know

So

To me if I start struggling and I know I could be making money doing what I know what how to do

I mean, it's not necessarily like I'm just trying to

Not learn like I'd love to learn new things, but it's almost you have to manage your business at the same time

So there's a status quo you have to ride to a certain extent and

Longer I've been in business the more I know staying in your lane

You can make a lot more money in your lane than you can

Struggling in somebody else's

Yeah, I mean but being I mean I

It's all you can't be ignorant to the other aesthetics of the job though, too, you know, that's the hard part

you know, that's why if me having the

Background of doing collision as well and having your hands taking apart cars like all the way and putting them back together

And it's really not that big of a deal because there's a game plan in a computer somewhere if you need it, you know

So it's almost nuts. It's it's like, you know, how things should go in and come out. So for me, I like

Personally my angle is like I'd like to get I'm like on that Mustang get all of the electronics

Basically anything that needs to be bolted in bolted in

the functioning things functioning as far as like I

Don't know like like electric windows and stuff like get the motors and everything installed and then just have somebody come in

Wire it or take it somewhere have somebody wire it plummet stuff like that. Just so it's the things are there

You know, there's less less questioning from from a mechanics perspective. Just make it make it function now

Yeah

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's definitely people around that can do it

But trusting somebody and then making sure that they're gonna be around in a couple years with the car, you know, cuz not this

Especially this higher-end restaurant stuff doesn't take if nothing that happens overnight even at a high-end shop

Nothing happens overnight, you know, at least they pretend, you know, sometimes it does for a CMOS stuff like that

But usually it's coming back and they're getting getting finished up at the shop anyways to a certain extent

But

Yeah, it's just really invested so you got to make sure they're gonna be around for the long haul with the with the build as well

So if there is, you know, once it's all painted that you have a few questions on the car as far as if you're troubleshooting stuff

Where to go so you're not taking the whole car back apart, you know, I don't know

There's always hypotheticals that you I mean should be keeping slightly in the back of your mind

Yeah

I

So he was saying because that car is like a 90

You really need to get your shop up and he's like I'll bring the GTR down you paint your whole paint the GTR and while you do that

Dude

Dude, that'd be cool to have like a tiny little tiny little Toyota like a fucking Celica or some shit and wedge one of those things in there

For real that'd be cool

Hell yeah, dude

Maybe so cool

It can't be that like overly heavy either, I mean five later it can't be like way crazy heavy, right?

So the weight shouldn't actually change on my truck much because I I have an iron block

Obviously the other one

Obviously there's more

We fucking change in springs again

So

I

Know

So yeah, I think

Save

Get everything enjoy the truck as is just work on fabric on my kid's truck

Just go hard phase to phase two will be like roll cage B12 engine cage

Radiator in the back probably a stupid roof scoop just to feed the radiator in the back just because

Why not it's a freaking supercar at that point stage two is no longer a truck

I think you go all out big cantilever four link in the back

In the next thing, you know, I'll be in the

Yeah, that'd be sick I feel like a v12 tundra pre-runner

All set up if I get everything to perform well, I'm pretty sure I could just like get anybody to let me

You

Have to make sure that to me

I think you'd have to at least spend a bit of time making sure the intake and everything looks sweet, you know

I'm making making sure but V12 looks cool and V12 V, you know and not just like a

Big weird plenum on top. Yeah, so my plan would be get the motor and then I would build a set of probably equal length

Stainless headers tune them make them as rotary fire for each bank as I can

It's crazy

So you want

Then when you're doing all that that equalizes pulses and then you cross them over

One bank to the other as soon as possible

J pipes or they make these weird chambers

It's kind of like a music in musical instrument tuning, you know, like the horns and stuff like that, you know

They all make a certain amount of bends. They've got a certain diameter and all that changes the pitch

Certain thickness of material

So it's nice

This Mustang was just to get it to a point a to point B situation

I mean, it's gonna sound like what it sounds like this exhaust is only like five feet long on each side anyway, so I mean

Loud is loud

So have you ever seen

Or heard, you know, like a Subaru's got the Subaru boxer engine

Yeah, they sound like poop

No, I mean maybe

Stupid

It sounds terrible

It's a signature sound

Yeah, it's signature sounds like shit

Don't get me wrong I really like Subaru's they're they're a great car

They have a good resale value the WRX's were always cool as a kid growing up

But that when you hear him go down the road, you're always like sums off to it like just make it sound better

No, no

Yeah, it's almost weird when you hear him with the eagle length because you're looking at the car and you're like, oh

So, you know the the hatchback weird years

Subaru that the WRX and the SCI were like a hatchback

Somebody put one of these Toyota v12's in one of those and twin turbo it

Well, that's pretty cool

It's one of the only things on

YouTube that was it a

That wasn't the golf. Oh, no, there was a golf GT. Yeah, was it a golf with a Audi v10 in the back

That was on like top here or something like that

That thing is fucking crazy

This was like a one-off

I

Maybe that was maybe that's what it was. I don't know. It was like it was a big motor in the back of a golf

That's all in them. I think that's the W 12

Did I ever tell you what the Metro that we did in high school? I think I did maybe

So the we had a shop class which was actually really really cool

They let us pretty much do there was one class and like your senior class

senior shop class you could do

You basically everybody voted and you got to do a project and you built whatever the shop or the class came up with

So the class before us did

It was a Bronco 2 and they made all-wheel drive or all-wheel steer

So they put a front axle in the back and they made everything function

and it wasn't like a take it down the road situation, but it was a

You know we can you can cut up a car and you can change it and make it work and function stuff like that

So our idea was to take a metro and put

38

GM front-wheel-drive v6 automatic

Set up and put it in the back of a metro and we did it. It was bad ass

When it ran

Like for the electronics

We just we had this metal box that we made and we just like put it all in there and ran out the wires

We need it

We're pretty sure shit was arcing out inside of it. It wasn't ever like this is the way it's gonna go down a road because we didn't even have I

Don't think we actually had struts in the back. I think we just like bolted in some

Like being steel or some shit like that, you know, it wasn't take it down the road, but it would do a hell of a burnout

That always interests me because like you can build

You can build something fast. That's like that's like how I look at a lot of the you build stuff like

You can slap an engine up front the engine from the front of a civic and just put the whole subframe in the back of the civic

And you know a couple days if you're just willing to take a grinder or

Whatever

I

Mean we learned a lot in that class as far as like we made

Flares around the back wheels because you know the wheels stuck out in the back

So we kind of essentially wide-bodied a

Geometro in the back. So we did you know, we body worked it all in

You know, we made I made some sheet metal that would cover the flares and or that would cover the wheel openings that basically essentially made flares

On the back of this metro and body worked them all in so it was all part of the class

It's like so you're learning a lot of different aspects. There's people welding

There's people doing bodywork is people priming and painting. So that's pretty cool

When you're selling customers on your sheet metal work, you're like this all started with

No, it was definitely no, I mean

the gang we kind of hang or that the crew we kind of we were hanging around with

Everybody was in the cars. I mean, we were doing demo derbies

Stuff pretty young too or not not necessarily demo derbies like a couple guys were like the even destruction, you know stuff like that

so, I mean, we're

Not a stranger to it. It was just that was the the

Us being able to cut a car part that far, you know, we've never really done that, you know, you're smashing them up and

Changing some stuff, but we weren't like engine swapping stuff in high school or anything until

I think I think I was I had the engine out of my Camaro and rebuilt

Yeah, no way

Yeah

I almost bought a project

S10 I wish I would have bought it

My parents kind of talked me out of it because it was a project and it wasn't exactly done

but it was a

It had to be like a 90

Like if the 90 body style like the for that gen S10 the regular cab short bed

but it was on air ride was

traditionally I

Guess you call channel body dropped whatever

Man had suicide doors. It was the guy wanted three grand

Like it was fucking awesome for three grand

So that kind of that was a truck that kind of wet me or the vehicle that kind of pushed me down the custom

Really custom vehicle route as far as like cutting things up and mini truck and all that kind of junk

So then I ended up buying a an S10 and doing it all to on a truck

Anyways and spending way more money doing it. So I should have just bought that damn truck

Because it was it ran a drill of the guy drove it from Appleton to Central Wisconsin to to sell it for three grand because he needed money

True but a year, I mean there's that truck is still out there

I mean, I would equate that to like an $8,000 truck now and there's $8,000 here right trucks out there all day long

So

My parents were like so you're gonna buy this project car and you're gonna you're gonna be putting all your money into it

So I don't know if you want to do that and they even had me talking to other people that had project cars like

Make sure you go talk to him about their project car and telling how much it sucks about putting all your money into the car

And look what that shit turned into

Look where we are

The total like the opposite direction of that we're gonna put I want to base my whole life around this thanks a lot parents

Can't tell me what to do every day

It's good stuff

Get some argon and keep welding some stuff in on the 66, that's my plan

I

Want to keep I got that quarter panel that I want to finish up and I just want to keep working around the backside get the

There's another small hole up to well up on the rear valance

And get the rear valance after I get the quarter panels welded and get the rear valance fit a little louder

but

everything's

Shaping up pretty decent and just trying to get everything that I fabricated a long time ago welded in so

Don't know if it's getting the vision down, you know a complete vision down all the way around the car making sure things are

the same side same same size

side to side and then actually installing it as a whole another thing so

It's not just a quarter bottoms

It's the in it's the drop-off in the quarter you got a drop down to so everything so the quarter panel seals off so it's I

Mean it's a some of it's easier just to cut cut the panel and make a new flat panel that goes in in its place

You know easy as that, but it's still some it sells time

Easy as that so I'll just metal right

I think to me the first side you're always

Your I have a lot more anxiety going through it because you're trying to figure it out a little more of the second side seemingly

It either goes two ways it goes really really smooth and a lot faster

Or it just kicks your ass completely a lot more and then you'll get to learn a lot more about yourself

So I'm hoping I don't have to learn a lot more about myself on this other scoop

I'm gonna drive around faster side

But

It's getting that torch in that in that scoop in inside because it's the inside edge that I had to weld together

So it was a pretty challenging and it was the first time ever actually

Successfully take welded with my left hand and my torch in my left hand so that was interesting

First time

I'm just touching the metal man

I mean I got a I want to buy that wireless pedal, but when I was learning TIG welding I seen a couple metal shapers

kind of

They weren't necessarily trashing on people using a pedal

But they're like do you really you really need it in every instance and I was like when I was learning it

I didn't want to yeah, I know believe me. I took everything with a grain of salt

But when I was learning how I didn't really have anybody sitting alongside of me

It's telling me like do this and do that do that. Well

Being you'd be a mig welder forever, you know, I'm just like one hand point shoot TIG welding. I'm using two hands and

Trying to my thought process on trying to involve a pedal as well was like I'm not really like it

We can't drum like I can you can play drums a little bit, but not like really well

And this is like that's too much for me. I think I could do it now, but

I'm so used to not having a pedal. I don't think introducing it wouldn't make things easier for me

Hit it man

Yeah, I'm just I'm just pulling distance for heat so I can pull away stab some filler in there and keep going man

I'm a

He came over into the shop, and I had a mig weld a little bit because he's never welded anything

I had a mig weld in some garbage

Take welding some aluminum, so I just got a bunch of scraps, you know, like our little drops

He the first day he was over there was like two hours and by the end of it on

You know flat stock aluminum quarter-inch. He was laying nice nice welds

Hey, he's doing really good his welds look better than the line welding welding tests we've had

Yeah, the difference is

When he's welding I'm in his I'm literally over his shoulder going slower. Don't move

Okay

More in there closer with the top with the tip. Okay, you got too much angle on it. Like I said, I'm literally coaching him through it

So like

Yes, he absolutely laid a nice bead

We've got him able to do it on his own without being coached

Everything takes reps to be

Process it gets a lot faster when you have somebody like you like literally like distance

Speed getting all that stuff down that was super hard for me because it it would be so frustrating

Couldn't get anything figured out and I just stepped away from it for a couple days

Pick it up again and things, you know, it's almost to me

It was like I quit it took like playing guitar and learning songs on guitars

You'd frustrated with it set it down pick it back up learns and you know, it it's almost like some of it retained

And you don't you don't even realize it

Yeah, a lot of times when I play guitar my fingers remember more than my head does

Well, yeah

Or you're like you fuck it up because you like think you put a couple songs together and your fingers are thinking one thing and your

brain's thinking about it or whatever. Yeah

Happens to me all the time mixing songs up. That's been a while though. I've had played a guitar in a while

I should need to you still like have a break time up there and

Jam out and stuff and now it's I just want to sit and

Like silence for a little while

It is I kind of let the guy on his own now with the welds

It just keeps adding more scraps onto the same piece

Since I

Can just look at a bead and be like, okay here you are too close here you too far here

You didn't move fast enough here. You weren't dipping enough the metal got too hot here

You needed to let it stop you need to stop and let it cool down

Okay, you need to put more heat on this piece

Most of the time like if a friend's welding on something he can send me a picture of it now and I could be like

Oh

Yeah, this is what you're doing wrong like you have too much angle on the torch your your filler rods melting before it even gets to

Oh, yeah, sure

Yeah, I'm definitely I'm definitely not dialed in that far

That's for sure

I can get the sheet metal to stick to one another and have good penetration and be able to hammer it out

And that's kind of what it's all about here

But you know efficiency at being being able to not have throw a bunch of filler out in it and then grinding it all back out

That's just being efficient that way is giving better at that

You still need some filler rod to be able to get that

You're not you're never gonna fuse the two panels together and they're not be avoid to some extent

Yeah

We have some powder coated products, but we still don't grind our weld

Yeah, yeah, that's completely different I mean I try and try and do is minimal starting stops as I can just for

Shrinking reasons just to keep the shrink as even as possible

But yeah, definitely different angles of this of of TIG welding for sure

It's okay. It kind of just forced me into having to be a better welder

I mean every time I pick it up it's seeming I I can actually pick it up and I'm not all tense

So I can actually like I feel like I'm better at it now because I'm not like

Yeah, yeah, it is sometimes it's hard to

for me

Because because I'm if everything is so really small and tiny that you know the welds are pretty pretty small

When you're just but welding sheet metal

Sometimes it's seeing

the line of if your panels are like

Tack tack together and really really tight and all you see is this really really tiny line that you're supposed to weld up

It's hard to see sometimes I

Have the side of the metal I

Mean sometimes it's you want you know like accidentally walk off a little bit because you're like

It's a man it like there was just like a something in the metal that you saw and he just like caught your eye and you went that way

But yeah, it happens I

Mean so sometimes I try not to clean the metal up too much so I can tell the difference between

You know it's flat, but it's not like clean like clean enough to weld

But not like a sanded finish all the way across so you your eye loses it

But that's just a struggle for me

Yeah

I never had that where I wanted to be a welder so I'm just like is this like a new appeal that people want to be a welder

Is there like something worrying about it? I

Want to do something and not be

Somebody at target, you know, I don't

I think there's people that want to work their hands because if there's a

As a generation of people that if they don't start working with their hands, they're not going to be like I mean

To a certain extent but what's they're gonna take over jobs. I don't care what people think it's just gonna happen

Oh

First I mean, yeah, I I understand that for sure, but to a certain extent if somebody could

invest

Let's see even a half million dollars in into a robot that can weld do your job

It'll pay off

You know, even if it's very specific welding I seen a robot

It was it was in China, but there's a robot that painted the side of a car

I think we took what that once

But it was I mean, it's not totally out of the realm that robots paint the cars right off the rat to begin with

So why can't it refinish one? It can it's just gonna be very difficult

Yeah, I think I can see a world where robots are gonna be doing a lot of crazy shit a lot of crazy

They're already out there people already have them in their homes. I think there's you there's guys on YouTube

I have fucking robots in their homes trying to cook eggs and shit

That's crazy. Yeah, see it's starting to ready

Buckers are gonna be changing the oil

They're gonna be doing all the stuff. We're gonna be mowing your yard. They're already mowing yards and stuff

I seen a video of a guy. It was like somebody in an apartment building and there's a guy

But video down and there's like two yards in a in a road across there's one guy standing on his

Stand-up lawnmower and across the road. There's a robot one and he's just like

fuck

Like yeah robots gonna take but he's fucking job. It's a certain extent not everybody's I guess like I said

It's me a while for a lot of these industries even my landlord is he's a contractor

He's like, I don't really see anything taking over my job. I got a fixed old houses and like well, you're not wrong, but

It's a robot shit's fucking crazy man. I'm not like a whole like I think it's gonna be awesome. It's pretty nuts

They're just gonna be 3d printing houses anyways

Yeah

Here to kind of admit it to that. I mean, I think a

Shipping container house would be pretty rad

Do you think

I think if you did like two on the bottom and then had one like like crossways at the top

So you had like a deck and then like one it'd be like cantilevered over, you know, but they'd be kind of rad

It would be cool

For a weekend house. I just can't picture stuff and your wife in a shipping container house

Not like dreams

Everybody's got shipping containers down here my buddy's got two of them in his yard right now

Yeah, but I mean actually make it look cool though and not make it look like a shipping container, you know

Yeah, I just think the the idea of building it out of steel like uh

Houses are just built like shit

They are like if you have a you an old house, it's probably junk underneath everything and it's just

You know bogered together with stuff from minards

I have the luxury of my house's concrete blocks

It's pretty good

That's the old yeah, that's pretty rad

Well, you're uh, good for hurricane right you already went through a hurricane there, right?

Yeah, we've had a few

Not that the house is imprenetrable impenetrable to damage, but

The concrete helps a lot. Oh, yeah

It's a different process

So you have you said your town isn't very large. What's the closest biggest town to you?

so

I was gonna tell you this when we were talking yesterday

Oh

So the closest town to me is seabring and that's the seabring. That's the 12 hours of seabring

Sure

Yeah, the racetrack's like half an hour from the house

Oh, cool. That's really cool. So there's

It's regular if I have to head into seabring for

You know some sort of weekend shopping

If we're heading up there on a saturday morning, you'll see like

Porsches everywhere with you know numbers on them in the windows and stuff because they're you know, just

Going to the track

For

There you go

Well, that's pretty big size down obviously then I've never even been there. We're talking about towns, you know

I was I was gonna get to how like are there like a lot of there must be a lot of car events pretty close to you then

Seabring does a lot

Sure

The circle or whatever downtown seabring, they'll have on the big roundabout they'll have a bunch of like race cars

Straight up Le Mans cars parked in the middle of the town

It's cool

There's a old like

Stainless 50s diner. That's right off the highway. That's on the way to the racetrack and so sometimes there'll be a bunch of

Sure

Definitely

I think if a guy wanted to get into an automotive business and you could tap into some of that

Well, I think Porsche people could keep a guy busy forever, I think

Being in front of the people that want it you got to be in front of them to a certain extent

My friend

Right now on road

For me, I'm like centrally located so I figure if I could

Get some work out there

And I could tap into both coasts because I'm an hour and a half from each coast

It's not that far away to have your car work done

I imagine you work on those people that are at least an hour and a half away

Oh, yeah, almost all of them are at least 45 minutes to an hour and a half away

Yeah, for sure

Yeah

I think the closer you get to Miami the the more insurance you're you you'd be paying I would suspect

Things leave from there, don't they

A lot of stuff ends up in containers on ships from Miami

I

There's a guy in Stratford

that had

A car built in Eau Claire at muscle car restoration

It was like a charger with a roll cage in it. It was freaking crazy

The guy was in a wheelchair

But they made it for this guy in a wheelchair and it was fucking nice

I saw it in person and then I didn't unknowingly knew uh, the the guy's dad had

House in Stratford

This is I worked like lived and worked in Eau Claire when I saw the car and then

Undoingly it was in my hometown of Stratford being stored somebody stole it out of the guy's garage in Stratford

And no we ever found that car again

Yeah, it's gone gone

yeah

It was just built

So it was definitely somebody

Watching I don't know how that stuff works, but yeah, that's it's pretty crazy. That's what we got cameras everywhere and shit

I get alerts on my phone when it snows which it did last night

Get alerts on my phone when it snows now cool

Yeah, there's snow still still on the ground

I'm telling you I will take three months of blistering heat over six plus months of breathing

You have my brain just cranking yesterday and I had to stop thinking about it for a while

When I first moved here, uh, we moved in December and it was the first week we were here

We're driving on the road in like a

50s

New Year's

This doesn't make any sense

Regularly like generally, uh, like driving around up here. There's old cars in the summertime. Is it like that all year around there then?

Yes, um, there is some of the

When there's the snowbird, you know, there's obviously people that that

Winter here

Let's say half of the population of my town is snowbirds

so

Like uh, they're not there year round

But they kind of fill the winter up where and then during the summer obviously

All the local people that have stuff have their driving their stuff around

Most things get built here where they're conditioning whereas that's not as big as a thing

for project cars, but uh

There's there's definitely cars to be seen all year around here

just getting to it like I see a

It's got to be a late 40s Packard early 50s Packard. I see it just driving around the neighborhood

anytime. There's a Model A's we saw a

Factory original Model T driving or like right past our block a little bit ago

So it's just pretty cool. We're making these wheels and

Yeah, there's definitely more

Yeah, I'm you you get used to seeing stuff all year round

Interesting

I was at when I went down to Virginia Beach briefly briefly a couple

summers ago and

we're sitting the first night we're sitting at a bar

and

There's seemingly some people there that

They seem to have like a lot of money

I was like, well, there's got to be some rich guys with some, you know, nice cars and I started bullshitting with some people

Like are they like car get-togethers or any like anything because it was a weekend. It was in the middle of summer

No, nothing nothing like cars around here

But driving around I didn't see the whole time I was there. I didn't see one old car the whole time

Those weird is really weird really weird, but I mean it is a big military town so I can see

People not having an old car, but you man. It was still weird like a beach town and there's not an old car in sight. It's crazy

Uh

Yeah, we see

Like I'm thinking beach vibes like at the farmers market in town. You'll you'll go there and almost every week

One of the guys that his wife has a booth. They drive the

Bettina looking bw bus there every week to haul all their farmers market stuff

There's times we're just like running into town in our little town to go get

Dinner

For something and the one day we were driving into town and there was

At least a dozen Shelby cobras just all pulling in and aligned because there's a few

I don't want to give up too much of where I live, but there's a few cool picturesque places the park

And so people like sure came probably came from seabream. They drove down to my town just to take pictures

Sure

Yes, it's pretty cool to just be like drive it and then there goes a dozen Shelby cobras big blocks

I know it out. Hell yeah

Shit, that doesn't happen around here at all. Usually when you hear something loud going down the road

It's a big jacked up truck with the dumbest rims and tires you've ever seen in your life

Oh, you got no, I I cannot imagine that

Marshfield has anything on florida boys with their trucks

It's terrible dude. Yee yee

Squatted trucks, what's with that?

No, I mean

I think actually squat some of these squatted trucks look better than the junk that's driving around in this town

Like some of that stuff down there by you guys is actually has a little bit of flavor

The shit around here is just like junk. I mean some of the trucks are really nice

But they'll put the dumbest rims and tires on I just

I don't understand it. It's not my flavor

Not my flavor at all here you get the uh, they call them leveling kits. That's how they

They're lying but they call them a leveling kit, but they'll lift the front. They'll put a half a lift kit in it

They'll put a really nice set of wheels on

Low-pro tires sometimes they do low-pro mud tires on like chrome 24s, which I find hilarious

That's what I don't get. I mean, that's not my flavor

I don't understand it because you're never like I get the aesthetic of

Having a car or a vehicle that you're not essentially essentially going to use it what it's built for but I mean

I just don't like

It's just uh, sue me

It's just that I'm showing out and I'm doing what

It's just it's just a rebellion. That's all squatted trucks. It's a rebellion. I don't care what anybody says

You're just trying to show out say i'm the bad boy. I got the nice wheels and I don't give a crap

Yeah, what are you gonna do fucking cars?

Why don't you tell everybody where to find my brain

You can find me on the instagram. I usually just post the most on there

Um, I do have some another video up with the some stuff on the mustang on youtube

Another video up there. I have like a almost 150 followers now. It's pretty crazy

We're getting nuts

And then I have facebook too

We're gonna find you man

Find me everywhere online instagram tick tock

facebook

youtube just go to youtube

um

And then we're gonna start releasing all of our videos for the podcast on youtube

Monday mornings as usual

If you want early access and you want to support the podcast you can go over to our patreon. We'll have everything there

So you people that want to help us out and uh, don't want to wait till monday

Oh, yeah

Until next time

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