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Welcome to Renthousiast Radio, the podcast where Will and Derek navigate the winding
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roads of Porsche Obsession, exploring the good and the bad of Porsche ownership.
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Grab your favorite beverage, pull up a chair and join us, Renthousiast Radio, because life's
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too short not to talk about Porsches.
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Welcome to Renthousiast Radio.
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And in this episode, we're going to be talking about a little bit of a left turn, as it
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were, that I have taken recently in terms of my consumption of Porsche products.
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I have traditionally owned Porsche sports cars.
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And if you've been following my channel, I'm somebody that just really, I can't get enough.
01:23
And so I buy a model, I experience it, I shoot content on it, you know, and I share
01:29
And then frankly, I will sell that particular model, maybe at a loss and move on to the
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This particular model, I'm actually very, very excited about it is a 2021 Porsche
01:43
And this particular car has been a long time coming, we're going to kick that around.
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Today, I'll tell you the story of the car and spoiler alert, I think it's fantastic.
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So I'm going to talk with Derek about why I think it is.
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But at first, I'm going to go ahead and just throw it over to Derek.
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Derek's going to chat with you a little bit about our podcast and our videos.
02:02
And he's also going to talk to you a little bit about the tech specs, because that's
02:05
what my man Derek does on this content, is he's the guy that brings in the facts
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I'm the guy that's full of shit.
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So Derek, what do you got to say, man?
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It's a perfect marriage.
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Yes, I'm putting my pocket protector in will and we'll get into the background on the
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I'm actually excited about this episode.
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We've talked a lot in the past about the Cayenne and how I'm a huge fan of the Cayenne.
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I have a Cayenne S from O-13.
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It's the other side of Porsche.
02:31
It's not just about 911s.
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It's funny that the progression of this podcast, your channel, you know, very
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air-cooled, heavy, then moving into water-cooled on the sports car side.
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And now we're kind of exploring the other side, dark side of the moon, when it comes
02:46
to, you know, what's a family Porsche look like?
02:49
So I'm actually excited about this.
02:50
I think it'll be fun to talk about this in comparison to a 911 because you have
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what's essentially a Porsche hot hatch.
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And I have a bunch of questions for you because I have not driven a
03:03
I've driven the base.
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I think I've driven a turbo in the past.
03:06
So anyways, long story short is there's already some content on Renthusias'
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YouTube channel on this Macan.
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So following this podcast, if you guys are listening in your cars or watching
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this on YouTube, once you're done watching this, flick over and check out
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Will talks about his initial purchase of the car, but then also talks about
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what it's like, his initial drive, that first 50 miles of what it's
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And those are often maybe the most truthful, most telling because you
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don't, you know, it's more visceral.
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It's right from the heart.
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Also, if you get a chance, good stuff over on 11 After 9, my YouTube
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channel all spelled out.
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In addition to my previous video, I have a cool video, Will, coming out
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in about a week on one of the rarest 911s I've ever driven, maybe ever
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It is a 05-911 Turbo S.
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And so yeah, man, they made 500 for the world.
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And this is a stick.
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And so this was a car that's here in New England.
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I was able to drive and give you some of my impressions on that.
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Very, very cool car.
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Man, OK, so yeah, just to plug your channel, man, you've
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enjoyed some pretty monumental growth quickly.
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And I think it speaks to the quality of the channel.
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So for those of you out there listening or watching,
04:22
you ought to go check it out because when a channel grows quickly,
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I think it indicates it has good Porsche content.
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Yeah, thanks, dude.
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Yeah, it's a little bit of that salt and pepper, sugar and spice.
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What you get here on the podcast is what you see on our YouTube channels.
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And they're very complimentary.
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So in addition, if you guys are in your cars,
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please continue to share this podcast with your driving groups.
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I know that a lot of people when they're heading to work
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like to listen to this on Tuesday mornings when it drops
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and make that part of your daily regimen as well.
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So Will, let's hop into the McCann talk.
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This is the baby Cayenne.
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This was the conception of,
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everyone said when the Cayenne came out
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that this was going to ruin the company.
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It ended up saving the company from a financial standpoint.
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In the mid-2000s, 2008, 2009, Porsche began developing this
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because they looked around and they saw
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that the mid SUV world was really exploding.
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I mean, you think about it.
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You have the BMW X3, the Audi Q5, the Mercedes GLK.
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So these were cars that came on the scene
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as the baby brother to the larger SUV.
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They were fast, they were fun,
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maybe a little bit more sport-oriented,
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a little bit less family-friendly,
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but that mix between the sports car and the SUV.
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And so Porsche wanted to make one of their own.
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So they began work on their McCann.
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So Will, the Cayenne, I shared with you
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that they called it Project Colorado
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when it was being developed.
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Any idea, fun trivia fact, because I'm a nerd,
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any idea what the internal project code was
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for the McCann as it was being developed?
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Well, you know what?
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As far as the internal number designation,
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it is most likely something like that,
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and I actually don't even know what it is.
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I think it actually is, and there you go.
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That's why I grabbed at it.
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But if somebody out there is listening,
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I am sure beyond the shadow of a doubt
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they will correct me.
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It's the 95B A-626.
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Well, no, no, just the 95B.
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It was called the Project Cajun.
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That's what it was, as they were developing it,
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it was called the Cajun,
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and that was short for Cayenne Junior,
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which I thought was kind of funny.
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They called it the Cajun for Cayenne Junior
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as they were developing it
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before they did the internal designation.
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So I'm always, I'm a business guy,
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and I'm thinking about all the boardroom meetings
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I've been in and the marketing brainstorming sessions
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and the strategy sessions.
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And so all that crap you do for two days straight
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in the boardroom and you got poster paper
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stuck to the wall and all this,
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like there's a bunch of Porsche people sitting around
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and they're like, okay, we're gonna build this thing.
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And so what are we gonna call it?
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Right, how does that happen?
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I guess why I would like to be a fly on the wall
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and just understand like, yeah, yeah, that's a great idea.
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Like capture that, right there on the whiteboard
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Okay, what's the next one?
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And then they all vote on it.
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Like, how does that play?
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Exactly, you can only imagine
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what other words were up on the whiteboard,
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you know, just silly, silly crap.
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And then the young kid, whoever the hell's
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on the marketing team, like he got the,
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they said, we're gonna use yours.
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And it was like an apex moment in his career, you know?
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Yeah, Tommy, we're going with Cajun.
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But unfortunately, when the time came
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to actually really name the car,
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sorry, Tommy, that didn't make the muster.
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And so they named it Makhan,
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which is Indonesian for tiger.
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I was thinking it was nuts.
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You thought it was Indonesian for nuts.
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It's pecan, but it's a Makhan.
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I think they went for something with a little more teeth.
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So they did, they named it Makhan
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and it quickly became the best selling model for Porsche.
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And also even the Cayenne.
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And so Porsche was right.
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It was built on the MLB platform,
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which is shared with the Q5 on the Audi side.
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I think that they did a refresh in 22.
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So I think is yours the last year
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before they did the refresh?
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Buddy, you know, I think I recently,
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I am very guilty of, I'm gonna digress
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and then we'll get back in your tech specs,
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but it's really interesting.
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I used to obsessively look for any resource
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on a particular model as I was hunting for it.
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I mean, I could like spout off every obscure detail,
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every potential problem, everything I would obsess.
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I mean, on this Makhan, I didn't do any research.
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And so, you know, I can't really tell you
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a lot of the things that you're already gonna know
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and you don't even own one.
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And I do, I was just like, hey, this looks cool.
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I wanna experience it and I purchased it, so.
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The only reason I ask is,
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I think that there was a refresh change.
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I thought you had a 22, you have a 21.
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And sorry, I kind of lost my train of thought.
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Man, my daughter was just texting me in my bed.
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So the thing about the 21 that I tripped over
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after I purchased it is it's the last year of all the buttons,
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like the button controls internally,
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which I just gotta say, I love that, love it.
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I did have a head of loaner based Makhan.
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We can tell the story if we want for a period of time
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while I was kind of getting my hands on this chalk example.
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And it was all that piano black button kind of stuff
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where there aren't physical buttons there.
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It's like you touch the piano black and it has,
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is it haptics, whatever the heck it is.
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But anyway, it's a fingerprint magnet is where it is.
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Fingerprints, central.
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My 21 is apparently the last year with the buttons
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and maybe the last year of a couple things.
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So I kind of tripped into that one
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that if you are a Makhan person, it's the one you want.
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Which is like I said earlier on,
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I mean, maybe if I'd done my research,
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I would have been chasing a 21.
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But I feel like in this case with this particular example,
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I kind of fell into the perfect one
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that people really want
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if you know what you're looking for.
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And I want to say then if you have a 21 GTS,
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has somewhere in the high 300 horsepower,
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maybe like 375, 380, I don't know if that sounds right,
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but lots of get up and go.
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The following year when they did the refresh,
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I think into 22, it actually got to 21's turbo motor.
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So it jumped to I think 430, 434, something like that.
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But your car very well balanced.
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Motor Trend called it the world's greatest VW GTI,
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meaning that it's just a really fast, fun, hot hatch.
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So I kind of want to get into it real quick.
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You said that you didn't do any research into it,
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We were looking at Cayans for you for a while,
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and you decided to opt not to go the Cayan route
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and you went small.
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I'm gonna hurt your feelings.
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I'm gonna hurt your feelings.
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We've done an episode on this,
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the internet forms of death.
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So in the case of the Cayan,
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because there are just so many different generations
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and trim levels and whatever,
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I don't know, I still haven't locked in
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on the different generations and which one you want
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and blah, blah, blah in the different motors,
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but I joined a couple of Facebook groups.
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And of course, Facebook, the algorithm,
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as you show interest in certain groups,
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it'll start to feed you more of this content
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So for a period of time,
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I thought I was a rabid Cayan fan.
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And so it was feeding me tons of posts
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like in my main news feed.
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And dude, three out of four posts
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where people that had owned like a little bit older Cayans
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and some shit show mechanical problem had occurred for them.
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And because the cars were like 15, 20, maybe $25,000,
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you look at a $5,000 repair that this guy was facing,
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I was like, I was high on the idea early on,
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but the more of those I saw,
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the more I'm like, I don't want any piece of that.
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And so then my mind goes to, okay, well,
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I'm gonna get a newer one or a brand new one.
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And then you started to get into a buck and a half
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and they're hard to come by
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and I didn't want a base and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And so that's where this thing started.
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And I also want to just talk a little bit about
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daily driver versus my, I don't know what the right term
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is, but like how I view my other really cool cars
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that are fun and fast and special and unique
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like the 911s that I have or the Boxster.
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So when I think about a daily driver,
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I think about something that, I want it to be cool,
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I want it to be fun, it needs to be usable,
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but I don't do a ton of research.
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I don't care particularly about what the ins and outs of them
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And so that's how I view this Macan as well.
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Like you're disposable maybe, like less of a collector thing.
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And so people often ask me, hey,
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and I've always been reticent to get into this
13:01
because it's just feels very personal
13:02
and maybe tacky and weird.
13:04
People ask me, hey, how do you afford this hobby?
13:05
Like what do you do for a living?
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And my daily driver is a company car.
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And for whatever reason,
13:10
I just kind of view that differently
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than I view the other cars that I have to,
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you know, that are the main cornerstone of my channel.
13:20
And so this Macan is a corporate car.
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It's a company car that I've purchased with my company.
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And so for whatever reason,
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I view that a little bit differently too.
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And maybe I'm quirky,
13:29
but it's disposable.
13:30
I hate to use that word, but how about this?
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I'll park this car outside and it won't bother me
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if that makes any sense.
13:37
Yeah, you're not washing it every afternoon.
13:40
In fact, it's already like massively dirty
13:42
and tons of brake dust on and all this and whatever.
13:45
I get that certainly because you can't love it
13:48
the same way you love your other cars
13:49
because if you're gonna be putting miles on it every day
13:51
and you know, throwing the dog in the back
13:54
and driving through muddy puddles,
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it would kill you to do that.
13:57
And then you'd have to buy a second daily driver
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to save your first daily driver.
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Talk about your first Macan
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because this is a funny story about the car you almost bought.
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Actually, you did buy it, but then you unbought.
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All right, so why the Macan and not the Cayenne?
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We just, we kind of touched on that.
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I mean, it was price point.
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It was everything that I told you about.
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And I wanted a little bit more space,
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but as I began to think about like my lifestyle
14:22
and where I'm at, you know, my kids are older now.
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I don't need, you know, a lot of space.
14:27
And so that helped me land on the Macan too
14:29
because it is smaller.
14:31
You can't put a ton of stuff in it,
14:33
but again, like where I'm at in my life, like that's okay.
14:36
So I started to look around
14:39
and I had actually kind of hunted for a Macan,
14:43
I don't know, a year ago, I don't know how long it's been.
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And I just kind of came up empty
14:47
because I couldn't find the one that I wanted
14:49
and I lost interest because I'm impatient as hell.
14:51
And if I can't find what I want, I just move on.
14:56
So I found a high mileage example.
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It was a blue example.
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It had the Bordeaux interior.
15:05
Car had like 86,000 miles on it.
15:08
But the interesting thing about this particular example
15:10
was that it was a CPO example.
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And so what I've learned about owning a modern Porsche
15:14
is you definitely want to own it in warranty.
15:18
I have learned that through ownership of different cars.
15:21
There's a Spyder I had, a GT4 I had,
15:25
my 991.2 is still under warranty with 40,000 miles on it.
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There's just something after running the gamut
15:31
of the air-cooled trials and tribulations
15:35
and surprises that is just so freeing
15:37
when you get into a CPO car
15:39
and you don't have to worry about it.
15:40
So I knew I wanted CPO and I could not believe
15:42
that they would have certified a car
15:43
that had 80,000 miles plus on it.
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But indeed they did.
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Yeah, I've never heard of that by the way.
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Really, that's a lot of miles.
15:52
I thought it was a huge win.
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And I will say this, this is something I do
15:55
on a research is like the depreciation curve
15:57
on these McCons is massively steep.
15:59
I mean, as soon as you, you're taking a hit
16:02
to drive one of these cars.
16:04
And so I thought that maybe, hey,
16:06
somebody else has suffered the pain
16:08
and I think this car was 35 grand.
16:11
So CPO 35, pretty example,
16:14
and Porsche won't certify something
16:16
unless it meets certain criteria.
16:18
So not only do you have the peace of mind
16:19
when something breaks,
16:20
but you're also like operating under the assumption
16:22
that everything should work as it's designed.
16:26
And you should have some level of robustness
16:29
in the example that you buy.
16:32
I feel a butt coming up.
16:34
And yeah, so bought the car.
16:38
I negotiated a deal with the seller
16:42
where it, the car had had a lot of,
16:46
it had had been resprayed on the front of it,
16:49
stone chips, which is fine.
16:51
But when you zoomed in on the pictures,
16:52
you saw that it was a shitty paint job
16:54
where you can see the sand marks through the paint
16:57
and it just wasn't ideal
16:58
when you looked at the front end of the car.
17:00
So I negotiated a deal where they said,
17:02
hey, we'll respray the hood for you.
17:04
Well, they, okay, I do the paperwork
17:07
and like after two weeks,
17:09
I still didn't have my hands on the car.
17:11
Oh, it's in a body shop and they got behind.
17:14
And I had a road trip coming up
17:16
and I said, look guys, here's the deal.
17:18
Like I'm not trying to be difficult,
17:20
but I need a car to drive.
17:21
I can't just drive my freaking 991 around all the time.
17:24
I mean, you know, whether or not you can daily drive
17:26
that car is a separate episode in and of itself, Derek,
17:29
I think, but you know, to drive a manual 9-11
17:32
around all the time is just not what I wanted to do.
17:34
And furthermore, I had money out on the thing.
17:36
Like send me my car.
17:38
So to their credit, they did send me a loner, Macan.
17:41
It was a 2024 Genshin blue car.
17:45
It was base, very lovely utility car where I think that,
17:50
and I said this on one of my videos.
17:52
It's like, if you're not a car enthusiast,
17:53
it would definitely be adequate, great, tight, whatever.
17:58
I think they hated me when it was all said and done
18:00
is I put 1800 miles on that as a loner.
18:02
And it was an example that was for sale.
18:05
This wasn't in their loner fleet.
18:06
It was like, it was in their inventory.
18:09
So we talked about depreciation.
18:10
I mean, that couldn't have helped them maximize
18:14
There's no better car than someone else's car though.
18:16
You weren't, you weren't guilty.
18:17
So I drove that to the beach and back
18:19
and took my girls with me and it was, anyway.
18:23
So they finally delivered the car that I purchased
18:26
and I drive the car to target, all right, something
18:30
or to get a fricking smoothie bowl with my girlfriend.
18:33
And like I look out and I'm driving
18:34
and I look at the left side
18:35
and I'm looking at the driver's side mirror
18:37
and it's shaking as I gather speed.
18:40
And I'm like, oh, well, you know, I'm sure,
18:43
follow me if you have ever seen
18:45
where the glass in the mirror, the side view mirror
18:48
has come loose, you can see it kind of shakes.
18:51
And I'm like, oh, okay, well, whatever.
18:52
Like I'm part of me is like,
18:54
I'll just stuff something in there
18:56
and like so it'll hold, hold still.
18:58
You know what I mean?
18:58
Like have you ever done that?
18:59
You know, but then, so I get to my destination
19:02
and I start looking at it
19:03
and the mirror has a gap of about,
19:05
it's got a quarter inch gap under it
19:06
between like the mirror stock and the body.
19:09
Or attaches to the body.
19:10
Yeah, so this wasn't the glass in the housing, brother.
19:13
This was the freaking hole.
19:15
So then I step back from the car and I look at it
19:17
and I'm like, you gotta be shitting me.
19:19
This whole door has been painted.
19:22
And as I look at it, like you,
19:23
the paint is so bad on it,
19:25
it looks like you could like touch it
19:26
and leave a thumbprint in it, you know?
19:27
Well, there's no worse feeling.
19:29
This is, you just got your car.
19:31
No, they didn't repaint the car
19:34
as in when they redid the hood for you.
19:36
This had been painted at some time in the past
19:38
that wasn't disclosed.
19:40
I have a theory, okay?
19:42
And I'll tell you the theory in a moment.
19:44
And I hope that the listeners
19:45
are like at least finding some interest here.
19:47
We're not necessarily talking about the McCombs platform,
19:49
but it is an interesting story
19:50
and it may be a cautionary tale
19:51
for anyone who's looking at CPO
19:53
thinking it's a total slam dunk.
19:55
Yeah, you know what it is, Will?
19:56
It's Schadenfreude.
19:57
Everyone loves to laugh at someone else's Porsche Payne.
20:00
You know what I mean?
20:03
I mean, if you really want to get into some shadyness,
20:06
again, this is a factory dealer,
20:07
but I bought it from a dealership
20:09
and it was three hours away from me, okay?
20:12
And it's in a city that I like to go visit anyway.
20:15
And so right before I'd done paperwork,
20:17
but after I'd committed and put a deposit down,
20:19
I happened to be going to the city
20:21
where the car was located.
20:23
And the car was still on the lot.
20:26
It had not yet shipped it out to the body shop
20:28
to handle the painting, the paintwork
20:30
that I said that I negotiated in.
20:32
So I was to be there on a Saturday
20:33
and I let the rep know,
20:34
hey, I'm gonna be there on Saturday.
20:35
I'd like to put eyes on the car, okay?
20:39
this was sight unseen.
20:40
Again, operating on pure faith on the CPO deal.
20:44
So I show up that Saturday,
20:45
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20:47
the car got picked up early to go to the body shop.
20:52
And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, you know.
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They knew I was coming.
21:21
I mean, I'm not gonna sit here
21:22
and accuse anybody of negative intent.
21:25
It was just, it was odd.
21:25
It could have been totally innocent,
21:27
but it was still like,
21:27
I would have liked to have seen this car.
21:32
So you're standing next to the car.
21:33
So anyway, let me fast forward back to the moment
21:36
where I realized the mirror was shaking.
21:37
So I look at it and I'm like, damn it.
21:38
There's a gap here and the paint's not great.
21:40
And I'm like, okay.
21:42
And I'm like, well,
21:43
and this goes back to daily driver.
21:47
Or am I willing just to accept it and whatever
21:50
And the more I thought about it,
21:51
the more I was like, yeah,
21:52
it's one of those you can't unsee.
21:54
Like, yeah, this is not
21:55
in my core collectible group of cars,
21:58
but it's also like I want to,
22:00
I don't want to look at the door
22:01
every time you're pissed off,
22:02
but this gets better.
22:04
So I climb back in the car
22:05
and when I'm getting into the car,
22:06
for some reason I put some upward pressure
22:08
on the steering wheel,
22:10
electric steering like column, right?
22:12
So like up, down, in, out with a switch.
22:17
Dude, the steering wheel is moving up and down like an inch.
22:20
So it should be locked in place,
22:22
but you know, like I can move the steering wheel,
22:23
it's wiggling by as much of an inch,
22:26
up and down, up and down, up and down.
22:28
So it won't hold still.
22:30
So then I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
22:35
I can imagine what was coming out of your mouth at the moment.
22:37
Who was the tech that went through like the checklist
22:39
of trying to make sure everything operates as it should?
22:42
So anyway, then I'm like, man, it's hot.
22:44
And I turn on my ventilated seat
22:46
and I can hear the fan,
22:47
the fan in the seat is rubbing against something.
22:50
So it's making noise.
22:53
So man, at that point, I'm like, okay,
22:55
I'm taking this thing home
22:56
and I drove the thing home
22:57
and I actually, thankfully,
23:00
have you ever had a problem with a car that you,
23:02
it happens and then you try to catch it on video
23:06
Yeah, in this case, both,
23:07
I mean, the steering wheel was self-explanatory.
23:08
You could get that on video.
23:10
And then the fan noise showed up loud and clear on video.
23:13
So I sent it to the rep, I'm like, what the hell?
23:15
I'm like, this is probably true
23:18
for people who are sticklers.
23:19
But I was like, this steering wheel is a safety issue.
23:21
I want you to come get this car right now.
23:23
And I want something to drive.
23:26
So they, and this was the same day
23:29
they delivered the car, by the way.
23:30
This did not go on for days.
23:31
Like this was the same day.
23:33
To their credit, that night, this was three hours away.
23:36
They sent the base McCann back to me.
23:40
The same morning they had picked it up
23:41
and dropped off my new car.
23:42
They sent a guy back down with that base McCann
23:44
and they took the blue car away.
23:46
So I won't continue to belabor the story,
23:47
but the bottom line is we went through
23:49
a dealer buyback situation.
23:51
And to their credit, man, they took care of it
23:53
and it was gone and they reversed the deal.
23:55
And was it a pain in my ass?
23:57
Yes, but at least I'm not sitting here
23:58
with a wrecked ass McCann sitting in my driveway.
24:03
Maybe it had an accident though.
24:05
I mean, the car fax was clean.
24:09
I kind of wonder, I kind of wonder
24:13
because the thing lingered in the body shop so long.
24:16
I wonder if something didn't happen at the body shop.
24:21
Yeah, because why do you paint a door?
24:23
You know, unless you side swipe something
24:25
or there's a major scratch,
24:26
I can understand the front clip,
24:27
maybe the front quarter panels.
24:29
But when it starts rolling back into the doors,
24:33
they also painted the A-pillar most likely
24:35
to blend it in, you know, a suspect.
24:38
Well, I can't remember.
24:39
I talked to somebody who knows,
24:40
but like the CPO program too,
24:42
like they can't accept certain amount of damage.
24:45
And also like it was so readily apparent
24:47
when the mirror was shaking,
24:49
like I gotta believe when the CPO car, they test drive it.
24:53
So initially when it went through the shop
24:54
before it went out to the body shop,
24:57
you know, I think they probably would have seen that.
24:59
Well, I know exactly what happened.
25:01
So this car was CPOed during the Christmas company party.
25:06
Everyone was drinking.
25:07
The guy who was doing your CPO work, you know,
25:11
had a couple and then the guy test driving it
25:15
And so this is how it got CPOed
25:16
because obviously it was a steaming pile
25:19
Yeah, it was fast though and it was awesome.
25:22
So let's get out of the hole like,
25:23
hey, you know, here's my shitty story.
25:25
And let me talk to you about the car itself.
25:27
Like I'm gonna talk to you about the example
25:29
I ultimately landed on and I will say this.
25:31
Thankfully, because all this went down
25:33
and it was painful as hell,
25:34
I ended up buying a car that I just love.
25:37
So once the dealer buyback happened,
25:40
I went on the Porsche Finder
25:41
and anybody out there who's looking
25:43
for like a really, really interesting choice spec
25:46
of any of these like modern Porsches,
25:48
like you're just gonna have to watch the Porsche Finder
25:51
which is the national database of, you know,
25:54
cars that are available at Porsche dealers.
25:56
You gotta watch it like-
25:58
Well, this even exists.
26:00
Like you can, it's almost like the PCA marketplace
26:03
but for actual Porsche dealers
26:05
that they'll put their inventory up
26:06
and you can search nationwide for like really cool cars
26:10
at the dealership and find out if they're CPO or not.
26:12
Yeah, and I'm sorry that we're even telling people that
26:14
because, you know, and I've struggled with this
26:15
over the years, every time I talk about like
26:17
where you can buy cool cars in a public venue,
26:20
like this is like, I'm just creating more humans
26:23
that are now competing with me for cool cars.
26:25
You wanna buy them all?
26:26
Yeah, I wanna steer you wrong.
26:28
I'm gonna tell you like some fake website
26:30
where you need to spend all your time looking for Porsches
26:32
just to divert your attention away
26:33
and I can steal the good stuff.
26:35
But yeah, no, so I saw, I found,
26:38
I came across the listing and it was like,
26:40
it was coming soon.
26:41
It was the stock rendering.
26:43
It was one of those where like
26:45
you couldn't really tell what the car was
26:47
and you had to click and go a little bit deeper
26:49
but it was chalk with a Bordeaux interior
26:53
and 28,000 miles and GTS and CPO.
26:58
So I jumped on it and made contact
27:01
and I actually had the reps send me pictures
27:05
and the car was still filthy
27:06
because it had literally just been traded
27:08
in that day on a Mercedes.
27:09
And that's my favorite way to get them early.
27:12
Be the first to the dance.
27:14
And so I will say that the purchase process
27:15
took about three weeks.
27:16
I bought it out of Dallas, Texas,
27:19
pretty corporate entity, like in other words,
27:21
I don't know, there was Penske,
27:22
but large organization with a lot of hoops,
27:24
you got to jump through,
27:25
especially when you're making a corporate purchase.
27:26
So anyway, fast forward, car shows up,
27:31
meet the driver at Target, okay,
27:33
in the big parking lot and I show up
27:35
and I'm tickled to death.
27:38
Car presents better than I thought it would.
27:42
I had had them fix some cosmetic issues.
27:45
I think whoever had bought that car brand new
27:48
had been maybe not a Porsche enthusiast,
27:51
so there were just some kind of like dings and dents
27:53
and just some things on it that told me
27:55
that it was used fairly, maybe not carefully.
28:00
So anyway, the car showed up man
28:02
and so I've had a chance to drive it
28:03
for maybe 300 miles now and God dang,
28:07
we're 27 minutes into this thing
28:09
and maybe here's the punchline on it, fabulous car.
28:13
Amazing, amazing, amazing.
28:18
What would you call it?
28:20
Not an SUV, is it considered an SUV?
28:23
Yeah, it's funny, BMW coined a term,
28:28
Like everyone, or SAV, that's right,
28:32
sports activity vehicle.
28:33
Yeah, it's not, and this is,
28:36
what I'd love to do is I just want to transition
28:38
this discussion real quick into who is this good for?
28:43
Because as far as our audience goes,
28:45
this is either an amazing first Porsche
28:48
if they want to get into the brand
28:49
or it might be a second Porsche
28:51
when they have their weekend car
28:53
and they want a daily driver.
28:54
Kind of like my whole thing that I talked about
28:56
when it comes to the Cayenne,
28:57
how cool is it to have a weekend car
29:00
or a special occasion car that's a Porsche
29:02
but also have a daily driver that's a Porsche
29:04
and it's a nice experience, maybe not as special
29:07
but it's definitely more special than driving
29:09
maybe a more common domestic brand or foreign brand.
29:12
So let me ask you this,
29:15
you have any number of 911s sitting in your garage
29:18
and they all give you a certain type of experience
29:21
when you drive them,
29:22
would you put your Macan GTS at that level
29:26
of a special drive when it comes to some of the,
29:29
the more modern water cooled 911s?
29:33
So I think like the question is,
29:36
hey, you know, is it a bit of a sense of occasion
29:39
when you climb in and you know,
29:41
you're gonna go drive it around.
29:42
Are you excited to get into it
29:44
or is your mind elsewhere
29:45
because it's like who gives a shit?
29:47
This is a, it's a pure like a tool
29:50
like I had a Tacoma pickup truck.
29:51
I mean, I never got excited getting in the car.
29:53
It was just, okay, I'm gonna start it and drive it.
29:55
Yeah, take the company car aspect out of it.
29:57
Like just look at it as if this was your car.
30:01
I, the answer is yes.
30:04
And I do want to say this too.
30:05
Like, you know, new car fever.
30:07
We're always excited about our new toy.
30:11
And, you know, I think you got to come see me
30:13
in six months and maybe you get a different answer.
30:17
But as it stands right now, I like starting the car.
30:21
I like flipping it into sport mode.
30:23
I like hearing the exhaust start to burble.
30:25
I like when I drive out of the driveway with it, you know,
30:28
and it's kind of, it's cold, but it starts to warm up.
30:31
The PDK, the quick shifts.
30:34
And so to answer your question, yes,
30:36
it is an exciting, fun tool that you jump into
30:41
and you know, you reach for to go to the gym
30:44
to run the errands, to take a quick road trip, you know,
30:48
So yeah, man, that's a lot of words to say.
30:50
I mean, it's an exciting daily driver.
30:53
How does the engine feel compared to the base?
30:57
I remember I had a, I've had a couple of Macan owners
31:00
in the past, actually I have two questions on this,
31:02
but how did the motor feel?
31:03
Because I know the base Macan, it's pretty subdued,
31:06
you know, and it has punch,
31:09
but it's not an exciting motor.
31:11
I haven't driven a GTS before.
31:14
Does it give you feedback?
31:16
Do you feel vibration?
31:17
Does it give you good sound?
31:19
Yeah, the sport exhaust is fun.
31:21
You know that it's a turbo motor,
31:24
but I mean, it's got enough punch
31:25
where you start getting in the gas.
31:27
Like, so obviously, I say obviously,
31:29
for those of you who don't know,
31:31
you know, as you go from like normal mode
31:34
into sport into sport plus, it adjusts the throttle map,
31:39
but it also adjusts the PDK shift points.
31:42
And so when you get into sport or sport plus,
31:44
which I don't really get into sport plus
31:45
because it's just unwieldy around town,
31:47
but I'm always in sport, the revs are a little bit higher
31:51
and all, like I share that to say,
31:53
the power becomes more accessible more quickly.
31:56
So dude, you get into that gas and this thing will,
31:59
you know, it'll stick you to the seat
32:00
and you can roll and you can control,
32:02
like you can pull away, you can pass with ease.
32:05
And so, you know, you can,
32:07
for me, the punch, the way that it makes power
32:11
is entertaining and it's definitely more than adequate.
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I mean, I don't know, it's been a little while
32:53
I mean, just, it was fast enough.
32:55
I mean, I took some road trips in it
32:56
and, you know, I like to rip on the highway
32:58
and get around people who are annoying, et cetera.
33:00
But, you know, it wasn't like, holy shit,
33:03
I just left them in the dust.
33:04
I was like, okay, I feel comfortable
33:05
that I have enough power,
33:07
but like, this is nothing to ride home about.
33:09
Yeah, I mean, it's a 4,000 plus car, right?
33:12
With a, that base had a four cylinder motor.
33:14
And so, there's only so much you can do with that, right?
33:18
So, yeah, man, I don't,
33:21
I never fool around with the paddle shifters,
33:23
at least so far, just as an item of interest,
33:26
but sport mode all the time.
33:28
And the answer is, yeah, I mean,
33:30
the motor is fun and how it works.
33:32
You get some people who complain, man,
33:34
about how the turbo, you know,
33:35
my 991.2 is the same way, right?
33:37
So it's the first three liter turbo model.
33:41
Oh, well, you know, the power's not there
33:44
and I don't like how it makes it.
33:46
I think you and I have talked about this a lot.
33:47
You've just got to accept it for what it is.
33:49
And once you learn how to work it correctly,
33:52
it's super fun and engaging, you know?
33:54
Yeah, you just have to drive it differently.
33:55
You're not going to be revving it out
33:57
because it doesn't rev as high.
33:58
All the torque's down low.
34:01
And I like that swell.
34:02
You know, the swell is there.
34:03
I like that slight turbo lag
34:05
that starts to come on and it feels like a rubber band
34:07
because you're getting, you know, as it spools up,
34:10
it's pushing, it's pulling harder, you know?
34:13
That's exactly how I felt,
34:14
just referencing that turbo SI drove
34:16
because unlike those early 911s
34:19
where the turbo was much more violent
34:22
and it was much more of a light switch,
34:24
the modern turbos, it's such a cool feeling
34:27
where you feel it build
34:28
and as the PSI increases on that turbo
34:31
and you just feel the car like,
34:32
it's like exactly like a rubber band.
34:36
and the faster you go,
34:37
the faster it wants to go until you hit red line.
34:40
That's what I love again about my 2017.
34:43
I mean, I just, I have had,
34:47
this is a semi-related piece of information.
34:50
I've let a couple of friends drive that 991.2
34:52
and they just don't,
34:53
it's one of those, they get out
34:55
and they politely don't say much about the car
34:56
and you can just tell that they're not excited by it.
34:59
I think those turbo engines, those three liters,
35:05
And I can't figure out for life
35:07
me why people don't find it to be exciting.
35:09
I mean, it's, I think it's one of those,
35:10
like give it another five to eight years
35:13
and then everybody'll be chasing it.
35:15
Just kind of like right now,
35:16
everybody's chasing the 997.2.
35:18
Yeah, well, spoiler alert,
35:20
our next podcast is actually going to be comparing
35:23
in earlier 911, a 997 versus the 991
35:26
because I think there is a conversation there.
35:29
Is it better to stay NA or just better to go turbo?
35:33
And I have my thoughts.
35:34
Last question for you.
35:35
If you were going to pick a car
35:37
for someone that has a small family,
35:40
see, one of the issues that I had with the Macan,
35:41
I had a long-term loaner there for a while.
35:43
It was an early one.
35:45
I found that getting in and out of it,
35:46
the doors in the seats,
35:48
it's the same problem that the Taycan has a little bit
35:52
is that the door, front door openings
35:54
are a little bit small.
35:56
Do you think that this is for a family, this car,
35:59
or is it really just for you and a significant other
36:06
I think it's for you and a significant other
36:07
and maybe five suitcases or in a dog.
36:11
I will say that, and this is the case with the 21,
36:18
I took my daughters down to the beach,
36:21
two and a half, three hour drive in that base.
36:24
As I alluded to earlier,
36:25
I needed a daily to take down there
36:27
and that's why they gave me the base.
36:28
Loaner, the seat back in the rear seat,
36:31
I'm all overstated, is almost vertically straight up
36:35
and it doesn't recline at all.
36:37
So I heard a lot of complaining from the back seat of
36:40
I'm uncomfortable, I can't get comfortable.
36:42
And so finally, Olivia, my older daughter
36:44
had to like lay down on the seat bottom
36:47
just to kind of relax and let her back, you know.
36:50
I remember there not being a lot of space either
36:52
for the legs, not 9-11, no space,
36:55
but not as much as you'd want,
36:57
putting someone back there who wasn't a child.
36:59
Yeah, I think that to answer your question,
37:01
I don't know that you're gonna, you know,
37:02
a whole family, I mean, I think that's a reach.
37:04
Just for the three of us, so the three human bodies
37:07
and you know, a couple of cases of water
37:10
and then three suitcases and some other odds and ends
37:12
like that thing was full.
37:13
And you're talking to someone who at one time
37:16
in my 993 had two car seats in the back
37:18
and so I 100% would try to make something like
37:23
that work just to drive a fun car.
37:26
But I think nowadays we just have options.
37:28
I mean, if you do have a family, just go Cayenne.
37:30
The Cayenne GTS, Cayenne Turbo is so capable,
37:33
especially if you get it under CPO to your astute point.
37:36
You do have options nowadays.
37:39
And then, you know, when the kids are in college,
37:40
you graduate too, maybe the Macan.
37:44
Yeah, I mean, that's, you know,
37:45
my kids aren't in college, but they're old enough where.
37:49
Yeah, anyway, so that would be my answer is,
37:51
I think it's a great car for when you're getting closer
37:54
to being an empty nester.
37:55
No doubt, we're gonna see a lot more content
37:57
on your channel on this car.
37:59
I think that this is gonna resonate with people out there
38:01
because this is a daily driver Porsche
38:04
that makes sense for a lot of people.
38:05
As a commuter car, as something for a city car,
38:08
because it's not as big, you can park it.
38:11
It's got PEP, so you can work,
38:12
you don't worry about it in traffic.
38:14
And so I'm excited to see what else you're gonna produce
38:16
on Renthousias, the YouTube channel.
38:18
And also we'll probably touch base on this in the future
38:20
as I move forward with some of my daily drivers
38:23
as I transition out of some things.
38:25
The Macan is always on my list of potential cars
38:27
because you get to drive the brand and it's a fun car.
38:31
So I'm glad you're enjoying it so far, Will.
38:33
Yeah, there seems to be an appetite out there.
38:34
I just glanced at my studio, my YouTube channel analytics
38:37
and I've had about 20,000 views across the two videos
38:40
I've done, which is decent number of views.
38:42
So that tells me that people are looking at Macans,
38:47
whether it's just for idle boredom in the evenings
38:50
when they're looking for Porsche content
38:51
or they're looking within the intent to purchase.
38:54
Yeah, well, I'll keep you apprised of this thing.
38:57
I mean, I have been taking some grief from viewers,
38:59
like, oh, can't wait for your next video.
39:01
Here's why I'm selling my Macan.
39:03
Because that's been a little bit of my playbook.
39:08
But yeah, man, cool platform.
39:11
I would strongly recommend it.
39:13
Definitely go test drive one,
39:14
but in the GTS is the trend to have.
39:17
Down in the comments, definitely let us know
39:19
what you all think about the Macan.
39:21
I'd be very curious to see if it's an overwhelming yay
39:24
or if it's more lukewarm with people that are owning it.
39:27
I have a feeling it's probably more the former
39:31
But Will, we will talk to you next week, man.
39:33
I'll catch you later.
39:34
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Catch you on the next episode of Renthousias Radio.
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["Renthousias Radio"]
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