Josh Freeman | From Kaufman to Gas Monkey to Going Solo

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It's a Q and Tosh.

It is.

It's the best you've swung on it.

Yeah.

No, we've noticed that.

Picked up on that.

The deed is warm up, dude.

It's a lot to digest.

You know what's funny is they didn't show his right foot.

Because you know where it's at?

I'm on a stool.

There's no, it's on an Apple box.

What drove you to move to Texas?

Actually, I got the phone call from Aaron Kaufman

to do a TV show.

I actually just ended up going by Gas Monkey one day

and standing at the fence like everybody else.

One of the guys walked out just saying hi to everybody.

And I said hi to him.

I told him I was part of the other team.

And he goes, what do you mean?

I go, I was on the other team.

He goes, I don't understand.

I kind of confused him.

And I told him that I worked for Aaron.

He's, oh, shit, come on in, man.

I want to take a tour of the shop.

Like then it was open game because I wasn't allowed

to go over there and visit when I first

worked at the other place.

You know what I mean?

It was, there was a lot of blood there between.

There was a lot of bad blood at the beginning.

Yeah, there was.

I'm sure they're fine.

They've talked in.

I haven't talked to Richard probably in probably a year.

But there we talked to a good bit, you know,

and texting back and forth and on different stuff and built text.

And I'll see if he answers.

I'll text Richard right now.

Text up high and you can kind of see when they're when they're

slammed, they look like that's what I think of.

I was like, yeah, he said all the good stuff.

All the bits of you enjoy it.

You were having a shit.

I'm sorry.

What's what about that?

What about what is it?

He probably thinks you're what's going on.

Welcome back to another episode oil and whiskey this week in

studio, none other than Josh Freeman, known as low, low

metal Smith on Instagram owner of Freeman fabrication out of

McKinney, Texas.

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Josh, welcome to the show, man.

Honestly, thanks for having me, man.

This is I'm blown away that you found me, even though

to you, but we didn't find you.

We knew who you were.

Okay, we just got we just got to you connected.

Yeah.

Well, I'm already exhausted.

I just got here, took me on the grand tour.

It's unbelievable.

The facility you guys have here and what you're running

is unreal.

Obviously, I gravitated gravitated towards a fabrication

shop and was just blown away at your guys here.

Thank you.

Thanks, man.

I appreciate that.

Yeah, you just flew in today.

I did.

Yeah, fly out later tonight to just all in and out.

Yeah, I gotta get back to you.

That's the iron man in it.

That's gotta get back to work and the kids and first day

of school starts Wednesday.

So yeah, we got all that going.

So did you did you raw dog it on the plane, too?

Have you heard about that?

The new thing like not like we think no, this is the only

thing that's part of it.

Have you seen some horrible name for it?

But I know all the kids are talking about.

There's like these you know, they'll get on.

They call it raw dog and a flight.

So they'll go for like, you know, a six hour flight

and just stare at the seat in front of them.

No magazine, no internet, no video.

Let's just I actually just did it.

Did you really?

I did it on the way back from Boston when we left

the road tour.

So for you opted to do that.

I didn't opt to be so this is the deal.

So we went on the road tour.

Yeah, right.

So I prepare and I leave to go on the road tour.

Well, earbuds was not a plan because I wasn't

thinking about the flight back.

It's poor planning.

It was it was poor planning.

So but I did that.

So I planned poorly.

So flew Jody out, right?

We fly back, didn't think anything about it.

Go to the airport.

It was even crazy because I was kind of like excited

because everything ran through and was like, I don't have anything.

I don't even have to worry about anything.

I'm, you know, just free and clear.

I got a wallet and a phone.

Did they get you in security?

The red dot?

No, I've I've altered my I've done two things.

I've altered that Prince Albert out.

No.

This is going fucking sideways right out of the gate.

The first part is I got on a plane and realized I didn't have any earbuds.

And then also there was no in-flight entertainment.

So I couldn't even get earbuds from things.

So that was a two hour flight.

Did your wife with you?

Yeah, but she had earbuds.

So she wasn't she was not going to the raw dog.

So I had to.

So I just read a magazine.

But that's not raw dog.

OK, well, I couldn't do it.

I did. I did.

I did. Old school.

I need constant stimulation.

I played some. Struggle.

But do you want to see something absolutely amazing?

It's sitting next to him on a flight when he can't get his earbuds to connect.

Fucking mount down.

It's not really like it's like it's like sitting next to a toddler

that I was waiting for can't get candy back to the feet thing.

I was waiting for just feet in the back of the seat in front of him.

Just pounding. Hey, you will have in my defense, though,

you couldn't figure it out either.

It was a faulty piece of technology.

Yeah, you're having the same problem.

I think mine was connecting to yours.

Yeah, fucking blue tooth.

As bad as when they don't sell menthol cigarettes in a state.

Don't know much about that.

That was a tender tension. Yeah.

It was.

It was bad.

I was going to do an argument with the gas station attendant.

He better or worse than extra salad on your sandwich.

It was not that bad. OK. No.

Are you a no lettuce guy?

He is. You are.

And he always gets lettuce.

And are you the guy that there's a little strand in there

or anything like in your in your Taco Bell?

And I don't mind like I'll eat salad.

I like salad, but lettuce on my sandwich.

Yeah, I fucking hate it. Why?

It just the texture doesn't like belong on a sandwich.

You know, like an ice, crunchy iceberg.

Do you? And then when you go like Jimmy John's,

they do the shredded shit and it's not a fucking sandwich.

It's a it's a salad with meat.

It's not a sandwich with lettuce.

Shredded lettuce is trash.

Let me ask you something with me.

I'm telling you, I'm going to order it without it.

They're like, he orders every time.

Have you? It's always extra.

Yeah, I think it's time to be.

You know how long it took for you to admit on the.

Baseball card.

Yeah, it's like 20 years.

Have you ever experienced my son last week?

Have you ever experienced extra lettuce like that

when you're by yourself?

Wait, what the fuck are you all talking about?

Yeah, we got a lot.

So it's a baseball card and lettuce.

Well, we had a baseball card situation

that I felt really guilty when I stole

a Michael Jordan beam team card from Phil as kids.

And I had a guilty conscience for like 20 years.

Never said a word.

And it's the only thing I ever stole, probably in my life.

And I gave it back to him last year.

And yeah, told him how it like that weighed on me.

I do. I feel that was like a religious experience.

But as you punch, would you guys

give him a noogie or something for stealing your card?

Well, you know, it's a shame.

We had to put the dog down for eating it.

But dude, like the problem is it it.

Appealed to the inner bass in me

because the beam team was the sparkly card.

You had to have it.

And I just had it.

It was tainted for 20 years that you couldn't enjoy it

because it was tainted.

Yeah, it turns out that's not worth the shit, right?

No, it's worth like a hundred bucks.

Oh, well, I gave it to Cam.

It was pretty stoked.

The one my question, though, is it seemed like the extra

lettuce has always happened when we're all together?

No, it's never happened by myself to be a full disclosure.

Yeah, the odds of that.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Do you think these two have something to do with it?

Oh, it's quite possible.

I mean, this is as an outsider here.

I'm just now coming into this store

and putting the clues together

and it looks like y'all are involved somehow.

I think it's payback either for the card wouldn't surprise me.

Who knows what with him wouldn't surprise me.

It's been one or two times

or a sandwich almost went back the other direction

over the counter.

The lettuce has gone all over the floor a bunch of times.

Yeah, it just fuck you.

You scoop it and would you eat this shit?

I'll tell you, I had a little bit of a fit the other day

when you showed up with a fucking lemon lime

pedia light or something that you got me.

You go to the gas station and ask me what I want.

I said I wanted a citrus, like a tropical,

citrus vitamin water or something other than water.

He comes back.

They didn't have that.

So here's a lemon lime pedia light.

No, it was Gatorade.

Do you know where it went?

It was Gatorade.

Straight in the garbage.

Right in the fucking garbage.

You know, it was so thirsty, too.

What's the difference between a vitamin water citrus

and a citrus Gatorade?

I said citrus and then I followed it up with tropical.

OK, well, they lemon lime.

It's like pine salt.

Dude, it's like it's like a cleaning agent, any beverage.

They did not. Am I right?

I fucked some lemon lime.

Yeah, they didn't sell vitamin water,

nor does anybody anymore, right?

Because it's not 2006.

Nobody sells vitamin water.

They didn't have any vitamin water.

I asked specifically for vitamin water

and the guy looked at me like I was asking for a tape deck.

So I got you.

I got you.

Well, if you knew what a tape deck was, you shouldn't have

been fighting about it.

I mean, hey, is this your first argument?

So I've got the gate.

No, it's fucking this afternoon.

So I got you a citrus Gatorade,

but it's the Gatorade Zero.

It's like it's it's good for you to get them.

The yellow one. All right.

You threw a yellow Gatorade.

It was like greenish yellow. Oh, yeah.

It's the only. Yeah, it's here.

The cucumber one.

I want to throw something away.

Yeah, I'm going to tell you what, raw pickle flavor.

I would I would never have to throw it away

because I would see the word cucumber and that.

All right. I tried it.

That could ruin a sandwich, too.

You want to know that when we were completely off the rails,

you want to know what else sucks is when Phil decides

he wants some peanut butter M&M's

and he thinks they're peanut butter M&M's and their their peanut

butter jelly M&M's.

It's the worst disgusting.

So my daughter and I,

we found peanut butter and jelly Reese's peanut butter cups

and we were all pumped on.

Let's just try and see what it's like.

Garbage, absolute trash jelly.

So excited. We finally searched for months.

I could see that. It makes sense, right?

Good. Don't try them.

Here's a wild outlandish statement.

OK. Jelly.

Only can be in a jelly jar to be applied on things.

And when you take jelly and put it in other stuff,

jelly doughnut sucks.

Yeah, peanut butter and jelly candy sucks.

There's never time.

What about an uncrustable?

You're at an uncrustable.

Yeah, I hate them.

I know the kids like they're they're they're you're telling me.

Jelly sandwich. Yeah.

Well, yes, but it's a pre-packaged.

It's not you got a point there.

Jelly doesn't belong in anything.

Jelly or jam came out of the.

If you it's in my jelly.

Jelly jelly needs to be self-applied.

Fair enough. Yeah.

That it's a true statement.

Are you a great guy or strawberry?

Strawberry, we just had this conversation yesterday.

Really? Yeah.

Late in the game.

So we're at weird breakfast.

Yesterday, I said grape jelly, ruined breakfast.

Yeah, I'm I'm with you on that one.

I hate I hate great.

Yeah, it's it's a great start to this project.

It's an amazing start.

While we're while we're I need you to do me a favor.

Toggle through that O.W. screen.

Well, a couple of times and just see if something sweet comes up.

Well, it's it's going to be a he couldn't do it here.

I didn't do it.

It's going to be a really strawberry jelly on a piece of bread.

Elliott helped. Is it on here?

It's supposed to be.

Well, you're going to have to help me.

It's there's a lot of things on here.

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OK, that's hot as hell.

Yeah, I wanted something new.

But there's I wanted something.

It's not even branded.

Oh, in the background, O.W.C.

Oh, OK, I thought we'd mix it up this week.

It's it's nice. Yeah.

It's a Kuntash. It is.

Sylvester Swann.

Yeah, no, we've you know, it's picked up on that.

Dita's warm up soon.

It's there's a lot.

That's a lot to digest.

You know what's funny is they didn't they didn't show his right foot

because you know where it's at on a fucking stool.

There's no there's no way he's sitting there.

Straight like in the back.

Yeah, that's a low car.

I don't know. True statement down in peace right there.

I don't know. I don't know.

Although we will ask.

I think that's going to be a part of our new standard questions

when we get to it is going to be Burt or Sly.

I think it's on fucking Burt's back.

His other foot personally and face down.

He's roundhouse kicked him with those fucking sweet Adidas boxing shoes.

How many all had the Kuntash poster in your room?

Oh, I did.

Well, in the state room, but I had like the ones you get at the fair.

Oh, yeah, they came pre like framed.

Yep, I had the big long one.

I think my actually was white, not red.

If I'm not mistaken, I had a red white one is the 20th anniversary

or I had the Alpine poster to head Kuntash.

Alpine audio head unit.

Yeah. Then Jordan.

What about Jordan?

They had the wings.

The wings wasn't a Jordan fan.

No, let's be honest.

Did you had a Confederate flag in your room?

That was it.

That was probably it.

I just true.

I can't know what I'm supposed to say.

I mean, all right.

From the cell, so we're up in the south. Yeah.

Yeah, you know what?

I did bring a whiskey and I went to Target

and it's been aging on their shelf for many, many years.

Screwball, the peanut butter stuff.

No, I almost got that, actually.

I almost did just because here's the deal.

You're not going to get a high end whiskey.

I'm not even a high end whiskey guy.

I've known nothing about whiskey.

But I did get all of them.

Hope it's Target branded bourbon.

That would be we got the Trader Joe's branded one.

Something what an angel's envy.

Oh, not bad.

But these good stuff.

All right. Yeah, it is.

You don't have to drink it, whatever it's there.

It just couldn't come here empty.

Thanks. I appreciate it. Yeah.

I mean, it's not like you need it.

We're running every bottle helps.

I actually didn't see it up there.

I was looking earlier.

Well, let's let's get let's get into the

to the reason why you're here.

Let's talk about and I'm even more intrigued now

than I was before.

You know, we'd give you a little tour.

We drove over to the chassis assembly facility

and we're talking there.

So so Cal, Wisconsin, Texas.

Hmm. True.

So let's how do we get where we're at?

We're all how do we get to where others go?

Right? They make this.

That's yeah, it is.

It is actually good.

All all the spots are real good.

You know, I mean, I like I like all of them.

So my mom and dad met in the army

in Fort Hood, Texas, and that's where baby Josh was born.

And they got divorced, went back to Wisconsin,

back with mom.

Dad is from California.

So that's how I ended up eventually in California

as my grandparents every summer.

I'd fly out and visit so Cal, go surfing with my cousins

and uncle and and live the so Cal life during summer.

And as soon as I graduated high school in Wisconsin,

I moved to Southern California.

I actually tried to go to Pasadena Art Institute

for automotive design.

It was pretty decent at drawing

and always drew my dad's race cars, my stepdad's race cars.

Who was my dad?

Essentially, he raised me since I was like two.

So yeah, grew up at the circle track asphalt.

You know, watching him race,

always drawing the paint jobs on his cars or drawing his,

you know, friend's cars or whoever, building models,

little scale models, they cut them out with like exact knives

like all the little, you know, water transfer.

I would do, I would actually do stickers, I would get stickers

and then choose the color out of the sticker for and make my own,

you know, five star chassis sticker or make my own

because they didn't really have them back then, you know,

or my own Coleman engineering and different different little

little logos and, you know, try to do as much, you know,

the, the webber of, you know, the driver number 28.

Anyway, just constantly doing that kind of stuff

and into cars that way and then moved to Southern California.

Obviously a crazy hotbed for hot rotting.

And I knew that being there every summer.

And what happened with the art center?

I just couldn't afford to go to be honest with you.

I just underestimated I'm not a, I'm not a super smart guy.

And I knew that was going to be an issue.

I was going to have to rely on drawing

and kind of I didn't really even know to be honest with

them, just kind of going for it

and realized there's no way I can live in Pasadena,

afford insurance on a car and apartment.

And, you know, my grandparents

that brought me out every summer

in Southern California in Orange County

was just too far of a commute

to even think about making that happen.

I had a place to stay there, but there's no way

it would take me four hours to get there, you know?

Yeah.

Anyway, yeah, then eventually moved to Texas

after living in California until 2017.

So in a graduate high school in 96,

that puts a date on me there,

but I graduated in 97.

So I get it.

Yeah.

So anyway, yeah, that's what you do.

What'd you do in in SoCal?

Workwise, started off when I moved to SoCal,

I ended up, I was already doing collision repair.

I was a during school was called,

like they call it RLP in Texas,

but in California, they called it,

or Wisconsin, they called it co-op.

Yeah.

But so I'd leave half day from high school senior year

and go work at a body shop.

I was a painter's helper for a while.

And then when I moved out to California,

I expected to kind of just jump in and get a job

and couldn't find one right away.

So I ended up working at Craigon,

which is like a O'Reilly's or like an auto zone kind of place.

And eventually a guy came in,

getting some windshield wipers who live nearby

and ended up being a body tech.

And he told me, hey, there's some opportunities

over in Irvine, someone over there and checked it out.

And as a painter's helper for a while there

and then moved into body tech

and did collision repair as a body tech

for almost 20 years.

And then eventually just always building my own stuff.

I always had a body drop S10 that I was static dropped,

you know, static suspension, but a body drop truck.

So sitting real low on some billet 18s.

And one of the body techs picked up on that

when I was a painter's helper and said,

hey man, come on over and wanna be a body tech.

I'm like, absolutely.

I'd rather well cut and grind

than sand all day for me.

It's just not my jam.

But so anyway, that's how that happened.

And eventually just got to a place

where I worked at a small enough high-end shop,

working on some really cool cars.

Got taught by some really smart guys

that really knew what they were doing,

making sure panel gaps were right,

making sure the car was super straight,

priming it, blocking it, letting it sit out in the sun

for three weeks a month and then coming back in,

blocking it again and then priming it again,

really going through the paint process.

And also the metal taught me how to take well,

taught me a lot of everything I know today.

Obviously you build on all that,

but that was where all the base came from

and worked on like Lamborghini mirrors

and Ferrari, Dino's and Mazda Roddy's

and obviously the normal cars too.

I don't know, the van or whatever.

But just normal collision repair stuff

and then eventually it was such a small shop

that I had my own bay.

I was able to keep my own vehicles in there

and mess with things or a motorcycle

or whatever, BMX bikes and just kinda,

I had a key and was able to start

just kinda dealing with my own stuff

and that's kinda how my own business started

is wrenching and making other things.

It's amazing the amount of collision backgrounds

that we have, we don't talk about it a lot.

We talk about the collision part,

we haven't brought up that it's a running thread

with a lot of people we've had on the podcast.

It teaches a lot, it teaches a lot of the process,

it's huge.

It does, but it's also like what surprises me

is it's really not a natural lead in

or progression into fabrication

because it's almost so seldom

that you're really even welding in the collision shop.

Especially nowadays with spot welding

and absolutely everything comes.

Depends on the size shop and also in the era

because there is shops that were like.

You were still doing lead back in your days.

No, but there is a thing of like,

well, the smaller shop value like

money out of pocket for a part

versus be like well I'll just stay late tonight

and I'll just build that and fix that.

Right, not to go too far down the like insurance fraud

topic, but there's, you know.

Repair of a place.

Then there is some of that fabrication learned

that's a little more on the creative side of

making something structurally sound

but then also recreating what it was.

But you're right, it's not like you're

wheeling out a Honda Civic fender.

No, but I was super fortunate

where I worked out a spot where like I said

there was a 69 mirror SV there

that I was having to learn to take weld the hood up on

because it was cracked by the vents in the front.

You're not buying a replacement hood for that.

Yeah, you're not.

So I'm also getting taught how to do that

but yet also pro spotting on a new quarter

on a CRV, you know what I mean?

So learning the body side of it too as well.

Obviously doing the Bondo and not Bondo

but plastic filler.

But you know what I mean?

So I was fortunate that the shop would,

I was doing both.

So I think that's what translated for me then.

There's times I had to make things

for the SV or for the Maserati we did

or whatever, you know, did a ton of Porsche 356s.

And so there's a lot of work on those,

you know, remaking all the little,

you know, torsion bar covers

and I'm sure you didn't over pull them any tight in them

and deleting and making, putting the Europe,

I think Euro bumpers on with that.

Be right and getting rid of the big squishy

not a Porsche guy at all.

I mean, I dig them.

I just don't know.

Yeah, okay.

While the American versions of the 911 have big,

you know, crash bumper stuff,

that safety stuff, so, but anyway.

It does.

I think that there's a lot of kids

that have come out of that collision side of things

that, you know, you do, it's like,

like you said, it was a gateway drug.

It's an easier way to get your foot in the door,

so to speak, right, as a helper.

Right?

It's a little bit easier to get a job there.

Start making some money.

Start making some money

and start learning some stuff there.

And it does, depending on what's part of it

in the side shop and all that,

there's a lot of things that you can learn

outside of the fabrication side of things,

of customer service, you know,

they're, depending on the shop again,

like if you care about the customer service

and the quality, there's all kinds of little things

that you pick up.

I know they mean from seam sealer, right?

Doing, you can seam seal something to keep water out

and you can do it in a bad way

or you can do it in an OE way, you know?

And there's all kinds of little tricks

and things that you learn

that's funny how, you know,

20 years down the road,

you're like, I should do it like this.

And you've learned things.

And it's not saying you can't get to it any other way,

but it is funny, those tricks that come about,

I mean, hell, just panel bond

and different things like that.

I learned some shit about,

I learned how to completely misuse panel bond

or that into your body shop.

Well, if you're attaching two things,

then you're using it correctly.

Yeah, but when you're filling,

you're supposed to be using two-sided tape

and you use a panel bond.

When you level a car out and-

You're using it incorrectly.

And then you tape the bottoms of the floor pans.

It's not fulfilling.

And then you flood it in there

and then brush it in with-

Self-leveling.

You take a bunch of acid brushes

and tape them together

because you don't have a paintbrush there,

but you have acid brushes.

And then you-

Yeah, you're using it incorrectly.

Yeah, it's incorrect.

Cut them short, so they got the good pattern?

Yeah.

You don't have to prefer it.

Attachment?

Great.

Using it for a substrate or filler?

Incorrect.

An emergency repair, though.

Panel bond or,

I don't use a panel bond.

I've seen a guy take two billet pieces

that he made into a lug

that he had a crane.

He was lifting his Tesla truck.

He panel bonded two pieces

of machined aluminum together.

And lifted a whole entire plasma.

I mean, a whole entire Tesla truck.

So I mean, nowadays, that's no surprise.

If you've ever tried to cut a roof out

and leave the seam that's been panel bonded in,

you'll fully believe that it's structural integrity.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Shit is there.

When I was doing collision repair,

we would get,

when the chargers or challengers,

I can't remember which one would come out.

There was like two spot welds in the front

and two in the back

and the rest was panel bond.

Those roofs just glued on.

That's wild.

That's crazy to me.

It's, if you get the right amount of adhesion,

like I guess it's supposed to be stronger than any weld

and because of the surface area,

you do all those classes, you know?

So I mean.

So when you said,

what drove you to move to Texas?

Actually, I got the phone call

from Aaron Kaufman to do a TV show.

Okay.

Yeah.

So when he split from Richard at Gas Monkey,

he was looking for a fabricator,

a mechanic and an electrical guy

and all the things and all the spots

and it was the fabricator.

So he called me up.

It was really, really weird.

I'd met him the year prior in Arizona

at I guess it would be Dell show,

the Demos show.

And not Demos, I'm sorry, Dinos.

Dinos get down and just said hi to him real quick.

He actually knew the little mini truck

I built back in the day.

And so we kind of hit it off for a little bit.

He's a mini trucker kind of guy

in the scene for a long time

and his friend John is as well.

And so we met then I think one way or another

he got my number from Ronnie

and I guess the rest is history.

All of a sudden I got a phone call one night

just sitting in my dinner actually with my family.

And I thought someone was playing a joke on me really.

You know what I mean?

And then started talking about it

and then eventually just kind of became a real thing.

You know, after lots of back and forth

like man, I can't leave.

I just can't leave something.

I can take my whole family away.

You know, I don't know Texas

and blah, blah, blah and eventually did it.

This is his first shop after he left.

He was doing his four-wheel drive

and stuff like that, right?

Yeah, that's the first thing I built when I was there.

I actually ended up going there

and building a international scout

that we went that we took to King Hammers.

Okay.

And it didn't do well.

So the engine was the transmission

and engine weren't happy with each other.

It was such a low RPM motor

that the transmission wasn't

that your torque converter wasn't locking up

because it wasn't spinning fast enough.

And so I mean that's-

Did you use a panel bonder?

Yeah, we need more panel bonder.

I actually should just squeeze some panel bond

there probably even, you know,

the viscosity would have been a little better

and probably hooked up, but-

So how long did that last?

Not, I didn't stay the whole season.

It wasn't ideal for me.

The understanding when me moving out to Texas,

taking my entire family was that I would

have an eight to five style job.

I know that when you're building custom cars

and there's a timeline and there's TV involved,

that there's gonna be some extra hours,

but it was promised to me one thing

and then another thing.

And as it was an awesome experience

and the people, we were all in it together

because we were all starting together.

It felt like a great team and it was, it was awesome.

There's nothing we couldn't do amongst the five of us.

It just was too many hours.

I couldn't just bring my whole entire family out to Texas

and then just desert them, you know?

So how'd your wife deal with that?

She was like, we'll move you to Texas,

we're gonna have this great job

and have a nine to five.

It was tough.

It wasn't good.

Honestly, it wasn't good and that's why I didn't last.

You know what I mean?

Honestly, truly it wasn't a great time.

My wife will tell you that.

Obviously things are so much better now

with my own thing and it was even better than,

I'll jump ahead and I actually just ended up

going by gas monkey one day

and standing at the fence like everybody else

and one of the guys walked out, his name is Jason Anker,

he walked out and I was just saying hi to everybody

and I said hi to him.

I told him I was a part of the other team

and he goes, what do you mean?

I go, I was on the other team.

He goes, I don't understand.

You know, I kind of confused him

and so I actually got him to come over and engage

and I told him that I worked for Aaron.

And he's, oh shit, come on in man.

I wanted to take a tour of the shop.

Like then it was, it was open game

because I wasn't allowed to go over there

and visit when I first worked at the other place.

You know what I mean?

It was, hey, let's just really stick as a crew here.

Don't go over to gas monkey.

Let's really start building what we've got here,

which is smart on Aaron's part.

You know, let's keep the team.

Let's keep it, you know, it's really built.

And was there bad blood there?

There was a lot of bad blood at the beginning.

Yeah, there was.

I'm sure they're fine.

They've talked and whatnot, but I mean,

it was just, I can't speak for them.

Time heals all.

Yeah, sure.

But you came out there kind of thinking

that you're going to work for a shop.

But it turns out it was a little bit more of like,

this is a startup for a show.

Yeah, and I knew that it was going to be a show.

That was the only reason, that was the only pull I had.

I wasn't going to go, you know,

I had my own shop at the time.

So there's no way I was going to leave

to go to another shop.

I had it, I was doing it already, you know?

It was the TV that pulled me out.

And the opportunity.

Yeah, and the opportunity and get some exposure

and learn from a bunch of people

and meet a bunch of people and, you know,

kind of like this, you know, you come,

you come do things like this.

I could have done the zoom,

but you know, my wife's like, hey, you need to go.

Like it would be so cool if you go.

So we just jumped on and bought some tickets real quick

once I found out and, you know, here we are.

So the opportunity is just what it's about

and getting to know people.

Now, if I ever see you all again,

I can be like, hey, you know,

and it isn't just, you know, hey, you know,

like there's a little more, you know what I mean?

We say all the time, the thing I say all the time

is like one of the key things of like people's success,

whatever, you know, there's a lot of different stuff,

but it comes down to like right place

at the right time.

You've got to be at the right place at the right time.

You just got to be a shit ton of places.

This is true.

It's true.

If you never got an approach,

if you never leave your shop,

nothing's ever going to happen to you.

You know what I mean?

You're never good or bad, maybe.

Put yourself out there, uncomfortable situations,

have the conversations that you don't want to have.

But we were talking about today, you know,

fabricators in general, by nature, you know,

for the most part, general, overgeneralized statement.

There's a lot of introverts, right?

It's different.

You're artistic and you want to create,

you want to do a thing.

It's very rare when you see somebody

that's really good that way,

then also just be like, never met a stranger.

Just going to go up and have a conversation.

So it's hard.

Sometimes you got to do.

It's probably 50-50 on that.

You think so?

On the fabric.

I mean, you get a lot of guys like you said

that they just want to be like,

your hood down, don't fucking bother me,

headphones on, I'm just creating.

And some guys like chase the,

You know what I'm like?

Yeah, chase the limelight.

And there's either way, there's nothing wrong with it.

No.

These guys like to be a part of the big,

you know, the whole industry and the big picture

and some guys like, dude, just leave me the fuck alone.

Let me do my thing.

I'm both of those guys though.

I like to be in my shop.

I have a hard time leaving my shop.

You know what I mean?

I really like to be there,

but I also enjoy the shit out of stuff like this.

You know what I mean?

I enjoy talking and learning.

And you know, I mean, I've learned so much today

just from taking a tour of the shop.

It's unbelievable, you know?

I spent probably the first three quarters

of my career being like the first guy.

They're like, just leave me the fuck alone.

Let me just do my thing.

And then I was just kind of like forced into it.

You know, like you do a few videos here

because you got to market the product

and then you're at SEMA

and then somebody stuffs a mic in your face

and then it's like, shit, like I got to do this.

And then it's like, well, I don't like long for it,

but you get a little more comfortable with it.

But still, it's not about you.

You're not supposed to like it.

I'm still like, it's still work.

I'm still definitely the like,

if I had the opportunity to just like

hood down and get a good after it.

Yeah, after it, you know.

And now here you are, look at this.

And like 10 years ago,

we had pretty good relationship with Rob McGaffin,

a photographer and he'd shot, I don't know,

20, 30 cars and chassis and stuff for us.

And then one day he's like,

I saw a video your brother did.

He actually talks.

Like, I didn't know that he was like social.

Yeah.

You've blossomed into it.

Yeah, I can hear that a lot.

I'll grown up.

Dude, I've known you for 20 years.

You never said a fucking word.

No, like you're on a podcast.

Yeah, you won't shut up.

But the point is,

is even though it is out of the norm

or uncomfortable,

it's just like any other part of a task.

Sometimes they're shittier parts of the task.

Sometimes you don't enjoy them.

You can't sometimes pick and choose

which ones you're gonna swallow or not.

It's like, yeah, it's part of it.

I gotta do it.

Even not like putting yourself out there

to be famous or whatever.

It's just starting, a small shop starting out.

You go to that first little local cruise in

when a guy comes by.

It's not in a lot of people's norm to go up

and be like, hey, let me tell you about the car, blah, blah.

Or if a guy asks a question,

it's gonna be like, no, I'm gonna let the work speak

for itself and blah, blah, blah.

But then sometimes there's the dude

who wants to tell you all about the car.

I know that.

Dude, I can see the car.

That might be me.

I'm sorry, I'm a bit of a talker that way.

You go right into it.

What I usually do is point out the flaws,

which is like, my wife is well

and all my friends are like, dude, knock it off.

They don't see that.

They see the whole picture.

They think the thing's sick.

Shut up.

That's a part of my life.

That's all that you need to build yourself.

There's a proper amount of making sure

that you're accessible if that proper,

if that person is looking at your craft

and wants to possibly inquire or ask a few questions

because sometimes the guy that's willing

to spend some money may be a little bit

of an introvert as well, right?

So he's looking at stuff and he's like, man,

the guy's just kind of sitting over there

in his chair behind the thing

and he's like, got neck tattoos and shit like that.

Like, I don't even know.

What's that supposed to mean, dude?

Yeah.

He looked at me.

He even gave me side eyes.

Yeah, I know.

That's why I said neck tattoos.

I looked over that way.

I mean, if it was directed at me, that's why I'm here.

I mean, I don't need a side eye, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I'll show you a fucking neck tattoo, dude.

There's mist back to the point

of being at a lot of places.

You don't want to miss that opportunity, right?

Right, yes.

And you read the room.

You know, the guy seems like he's interested,

blah, blah, you don't have to be like,

let me take 45 minutes away from you

and your wife and your kids walking around the cruise

but there's a, hey man, saw you checking it out?

Yeah.

You know, if you ever need anything, whatever.

Do you have anything?

There's a proper bit of the guy walking away

and be like, dude, it's a fucking asshole.

Like I was looking in his car and he couldn't even bother

to get up out of his chair.

And then there's the wrong way, like, oh God,

that dude wouldn't shut the fuck up, you know?

You've got to put yourself like,

I'm so guilty of it, right?

I've missed God knows how many opportunities

because I just don't put myself out there.

But I did follow, I'm smart enough to know

that you got to like surround yourself

with people that are better than you

in the things that you're not good at.

So having Josh around, like Josh is great at that.

So it works good.

But a good example, like Alan Johnson, great example.

Obviously that Alan was a fucking asshole, right?

Like for years, because he never, he never taught

but I'm the same way as him.

Like the two of us would have never spoken

to each other, probably ever.

It had just been, you know, I'm not.

And both turned around and be like,

that dude's an asshole, both of y'all is the same.

He's got a podcast.

Yeah, he's got that.

I have some more.

But you've like, once you finally have the.

See, I'm friendly enough with them.

Now we're friends enough.

I can do shit like that.

Because it, it took like, probably Josh connecting us

and like breaking, like because we're both

probably very similar.

But there's so many fucking people

in the industry like that.

But you've got it.

You mean you really got to dig deep

and put yourself out there.

Cause like I said, I can't tell you how many,

like, probably great opportunities I've missed.

Like I said, I'm a talker.

I think it bodes well for me.

I end up with the customers.

They really like to hear what's going on with their car.

If you're quiet about it too,

and they just keep on sending you that check every week

or monthly, however you guys build,

but like, and you don't talk to them,

I think that's, I always try to be,

I overshare obviously a bunch of pictures

and just talk to them, talk them through

and tell them how cool it's gonna be,

how different it's gonna be than anybody else is.

And I mean, you just can kinda

sell your work that way as well, I think.

I don't think you can kinda talk your way out of us.

I'm sure you can get annoyed,

but I think you wouldn't talk yourself out of work.

I think they would like that reassurance in my opinion.

That's just, what's worked for me, I don't know.

Sure, I just wanted to touch on it

because it popped in my mind as you were talking about it.

There's a proper level to it though,

because we've seen opposite ends of the spectrum.

How many shows have we gone to

and you're going around even judging cars

or doing pics or just walking

and just looking at stuff,

and you've had the employees that are there, right?

And they're just like on you, you know?

And they're super excited and stuff like that,

but it gets to the point like, all right, enough, right?

Hey man, nice car, thanks, we did this.

Yeah, but is that different for you

all because you're roadster shop guys?

Like you are the guys, you know what I mean?

No, I don't think, nobody knows,

nobody really knows who the fuck we are.

It's anybody that knows what,

look, I mean we've all been doing this for a long time,

so to me, I enjoy, on a certain car,

like it's cool, like Troy came out here

with their roadster and him and Adam.

Is this a sponsor check showed up yet?

That's coming, but they, you know,

that's a car that you need a tour of

because it's so fucking over the top.

So intricate, yeah.

But there's some cars, you just want to look at it

and you could take it all in

because I know what you did

and you don't necessarily need the like,

I don't need to know the patch panel that you put it,

like dude, there's a patch panel,

it's smooth, it's done, it's like,

and it's run-of-the-mill stuff.

Yeah, literally, shut the fuck up.

Let me just enjoy it.

I like it, I'm looking at it because it's really cool.

And I'm taking in all the good.

My point was, and maybe we're a bad example,

I mean customers are probably different,

but there's also the time when you're looking

at something and like,

what you're thinking is, you know,

that guy's an asshole

because the guy's just sitting behind this car

and he's like, that can't even bother to be like,

hey, nice car or whatever and he just kind of

gives you the heads up and you're like,

we don't need the dissertation.

Again, we're probably bad examples.

My point was, is there's a proper amount

of interaction with that person.

I've had many times I've walked up to a show,

you know, like the normal, not cars and coffee,

but something, you know, on the main street

of your local town and you see a cool car

and it's like the coolest one there

and you walk up and unfortunately,

the guy probably knows it's the coolest one.

You know, I mean, is this your car?

He's like, oh yeah, sick dude, thanks.

Like just walks away.

You know what he doesn't,

I want to talk to you about it a little bit.

I mean, let's, it's the coolest car here.

Let's, I'm a car builder, let's talk about it.

I apologize for doing that to you dude.

That was probably, that was pretty good.

I was down here.

Yeah, thanks.

Like not to derail as much as this is probably going to,

but we'll get back.

Speaking of car show interactions, the.

One of 311 FRC coupes in Arctic white.

Excuse me?

No.

It comes to like he's got enough on this podcast,

no more.

Yeah, not too much because nobody listened to it.

So it's like.

Don't you dare?

Cause if you joke about mine this way.

No, there's only one person that would joke.

No, the guy, the guy is that comedian.

I don't know what the guy's name.

The guy that goes around to the cars and coffee events

and then just puts fast and furious.

Oh, I love it.

I love it.

I'm hooked.

I'm dying.

I'm hooked.

And now they're getting like,

and he's got a helper and they're more.

Yeah, they're going deep too.

They're pulling out the deep cuts for sure.

I fucking love it.

Yeah.

Watching the inner the reactions of some of these guys,

it's really, really good.

It is how much to find what the guy's name is

so we can give him a shout.

But don't catch on.

You know what I mean?

Like right away.

This guy's in a driver's suit.

Yeah, he gets pretty far.

Man, I've listened to one of these like talking to you

for like a minute and just runs through the whole thing.

And then his buddy's there.

And I'm seeing the recent one.

I saw was the dude in the little Porsche replica.

Like the all-aluminium, yeah,

all-aluminium speech or whatever he's like,

what's under the hood there?

And he kind of points and the guy's like,

you know, under that hood or under that hood or whatever.

He's like, yeah.

And he just keeps going to the thing.

And then he does a Volkswagen turbo

and like all the different quotes

and it's deep cut stuff of, yeah, my name's Hector.

I can't pronounce the last name.

And he just goes in.

We got to find this.

That's all good.

I love that one.

He's got another channel too,

where he's like a SoCal surfer.

And it's just, man, everything's about giving a preach.

So you got to give a preach to grass.

I mean, it's just so green

and like the way the grass feels on your toes

and just goes on these like 15 minute like stoner runs.

Is that the dude that goes into like the-

Council meetings?

Yeah, town hall, please.

Yeah, is it the same guy?

You seen that?

I've seen that.

My buddy John, not John, it's like,

it's like Xander or someone like something like Xander.

He was saying that the surf was fucking epic today.

And so like, I think it's only fitting

that we all go down there and check it out.

You know what I mean?

Like just-

It's the same, it's the same guys that do that.

Cause they come, the ones that go in

and talk about opposing the bill

to a something about bearing arms, whatever.

And they're both in tank tops.

Like we've been working on these pipes for years.

Let's make sure the guy keeps saying-

All these old heads, all these old heads counts.

It's not pertinent to the situation.

It's so funny.

I though, again, off on tangent.

Yeah.

I've just, I've got to start getting out of my norm

cause I am full blown addicted to just the Ovan clips right now.

Cause there've been bangers one after another.

I saw him interviewing Hank Hill the other day,

like a cartoon.

Yeah.

It's a big sponsorship they're doing

for King of the Hills coming back.

What was at your house over the weekend?

He was just all night long playing him on the TV.

They're amazing.

They're funny.

Stuff he was telling Trump though I was dying,

in that, that's a serious interview.

Yeah.

He's talking about cocaine and stuff like that.

He's like, so you really struggle with it.

He's like, oh yeah, yeah.

The one though, he just did one with Joaquin Phoenix.

I didn't see that.

He just did a long interview with Joaquin Phoenix.

He had two things.

One, Joaquin asked him, his show's called This Past Weekend.

So he asked him, he's like,

so this past weekend, where'd you come up with that name?

He's like, should I start it on a Monday?

Yes.

And that was his answer.

And it's just such a way, you're like, it hits you.

Then he had a thing that he was,

when he was living in California,

he wanted to meet Joaquin Phoenix

and he knew where he lived because his friend told him.

So he had, the Ovan had this idea

that he was gonna start this shoe store

called These Boots Are Made For Joaquin.

And it was gonna be the name of the shoe store.

And it was only to do, he said he was gonna do

whatever he could to start this shoe store.

These Boots Are Made For Joaquin and he,

just for Joaquin Phoenix to see it and stop in.

That would be his opportunity to meet him.

He's like, and so he started laughing.

He said, would you have stopped in?

He said, oh yeah, we're stopped in.

He said, see, it would have worked.

I wouldn't have got to meet you.

I love when he goes so deeply.

But never mind, it's probably a bad idea.

Like he's a heel back pedal on it stuff.

He's so funny, man.

I love it.

He's fucking hilarious.

His cousins and his family and the people in his town

that he just, I don't know whether he's making them up,

obviously, but just everyone is,

he's to have to bury some dude's shit.

Like, yeah, I mean, in this backyard.

He's got a delivery that's unlike anybody else.

Because it's,

It's a heck of a sense of humor.

The first four words get you,

like in whatever he's saying.

Yeah, so I've got to purge myself from that.

I love Theo Vaughn, Shane Gillis, all those.

Shane Gillis is another, yeah.

Shane Gillis is most recent,

what is beautiful, beautiful dogs?

Is that what it's like?

Yeah, dude, unreal.

I've been watching the tires.

Oh, second season crush.

It's, I got to do that, yeah.

It's because there's such a sense of like realism in it.

Like, yes.

He worked in the tire shop.

Like, yeah, obviously.

He built out that whole tire shop

that I believe it's the, you know,

the, his co-star or the other guy,

the shop manager guy, I forget his name right now,

but he, his dad owns the actual tire shop.

That same tire shop.

They've got intimate knowledge

that not anybody else would.

And it's on a, honestly, it's smart humor.

It's, like, if you don't laugh at it,

then there's things you just don't know about.

That's fine.

It's not for you.

Smart humor for idiots.

Well, yeah.

Or for cars.

For car guys.

But I will say this, so the first season was great

just because it was Shane Gillis on, you know,

on a series, but his second season of it is far better.

It's crush.

Wait till he made his dad.

So dude from Wings.

Remember the show Wings?

What?

Way back that day?

Vaguely.

Oh, his dad in the show, yeah, yeah.

It's funny.

Yeah, it's good.

Second season is worth watching for sure.

I'm gonna have to dig into that.

His SNL was the best SNL they've done in 25 years.

Yes.

This was by far.

After he gets canceled.

By far the best SNL in 25 years.

He cracks me up with the Trump impersonation.

Yeah, Kill Tony.

Yeah, Kill Tony's just unreal.

So good.

I gotta take Kill Tony in snippets.

I can't watch.

You just watch the Facebook shorts

where they just recap like the bangers.

That's all I can do.

In 30 seconds to a minute.

And the rest of it's, yeah.

Dude, what's his name?

Is it Adam Ray or whatever?

The Dr. Phil?

Yeah.

He's phenomenal.

That whole group of people, you know,

Tom Seguro and all those guys are just,

it's all of my entertainment.

Like it's what I love to watch.

Have you seen the new ones

where he dresses up as Tony

and is sitting next to him?

It is so good.

I haven't seen that.

It mocks him for being down all the time.

That's a dude I'll never be on the podcast.

Stop.

We met him.

You did.

And Josh.

I give him a compliment.

Yeah, how you don't like him.

No.

Just came right out of the gate.

We went to...

I didn't say that.

We went to Rogan's, you know, comedy.

The Mothership.

The Mothership deal.

And we're in the green room.

And there's Tony Hinchcliff and he introduces us.

And like the first words out of Josh's mouth was like,

oh dude, it's crazy.

I honestly don't think you're that funny.

Like I've seen you a bunch and it's like you're not,

like I actually don't like really like you,

but like seeing you, you killed it.

Not at all.

And I'm like, I fucking clammed up.

I clammed up because I'm like, I can't believe it.

I think he's nervous and he's like saying shit.

He doesn't mean to say it.

It sounded so bad.

The first thing out of my mouth was

I didn't realize that you were that funny.

And then Joe, I know it wasn't the best way to say it.

I agree, but that's what I said.

Joe gives him shit about it.

And of course Tony doesn't give a fuck

what my opinion is, right?

I tried to clean it up after that and then I made it worse

because then I said, no,

everything I've seen before wasn't that funny.

So that's-

Yeah, well, exactly, it's like-

You just dug the hole deeper after-

Yeah, it was not, I didn't say it was great,

but it was not what you just said.

Was he channeling through your mouth?

I know, right?

The first one, honestly, I should have left it

because it was a compliment.

I didn't realize you were that funny

was a compliment if you thought about it.

You had a better choice of words.

Right.

There's a better way to say it.

You're not as ugly in person.

Right.

And on TV, you suck, but in person.

No, he had to grow on me too.

I definitely, because I listen to a lot of podcasts.

Obviously, I'm working away,

but I couldn't just listen to the podcast.

You have to watch it.

You know, the Kill Tony podcast?

Yeah.

His little voice, just after a while,

I'm like, dude, no, you know.

But seeing him in person and him do a full set,

it was completely different.

Watching the show, watching it instead of just listening.

Yeah, it was a completely different thing.

And yeah, 100% said it the wrong way.

And then-

Double down.

Joe gave him shit about it.

And I could have just let it go

because the motherfucker does not care what I say.

But I had to clean it up.

And trying to clean it up, I just smeared it everywhere.

Right.

Yeah, but don't get your guy anyway,

so it doesn't really matter.

They were stoned.

They didn't, I mean, whatever.

Yeah, the guy doesn't remember.

Yeah.

I guarantee you, no.

I guarantee you, he has never thought

about that night ever since then.

I'll bet you it comes up on a future comedy special.

It does not.

Yeah, he'd be like, he's gonna say so much.

Can you imagine?

Yeah, he's like, so there's this,

he's like a whiskey oil road,

like those fucking hot rods or something.

This guy is just a total bitch.

Total fucking bitch.

It's just me.

It came into my green room, fucking shit.

I'll bet it stung, dude.

I'll bet it, because it was so honest.

It wasn't like you were being funny.

It was just-

A dig.

A major dig.

If I would say-

You just said that to me to hurt my feelings.

No.

You say a lot of things that don't bother me.

If I were to say somebody,

oh, wow, I didn't realize you were so talented

or oh, I didn't realize you were so good looking

or oh, I didn't realize you were so funny.

That's not a bad way of saying it.

But then if you followed that up with like,

because everything I've seen you,

every time I've seen you, you're not good looking.

Right.

I know, the cleanup was the problem.

Okay.

I should have left it at the beginning.

Exactly.

I didn't realize you were a good car builder.

Everything I've seen before wasn't that good.

Right.

Yes, how would that-

Yeah.

Oh.

I remember that for sure.

Yeah.

I would definitely remember that.

But this one though is great.

Like, I don't know, did you have help on this one?

Yeah.

Did Joe write all your tags or what?

Because I've seen this one and this one and this one

and they were all bad.

So we hate you and you never get them on the podcast.

That's what we come to the conclusion.

It wasn't coming on any.

He doesn't even know that we went to Yellow Corvette.

A brand new Yellow Corvette or something like that.

Like, if I've heard right, I've seen the podcast.

We could probably have the matching vest.

We could have fun with that.

And the belt buckle and the-

I think on a comedy level, we could hang with him

on making fun of him for a Yellow Corvette convertible.

Yeah, for sure.

The ball busting is the best when they have-

Some of the regulars come on.

They just start showing shots at each other.

It is great.

Like the protector parks and stuff like that

where they're just having at it, it's always good.

Again, back to another.

We gotta name it.

We gotta name our pre and post paid for subscription

of the Oil or Whiskey.

This is-

Probably have to do waivers.

That's gonna be-

I'm thinking voice over and animate it

and you're totally fine.

You can get away with a lot that way.

Anything that's a cartoon.

South Park has gotten away with it.

Came back now, you see that?

Oh yeah.

Give us some butt head or back.

Actually, I'll call a duty instead too.

It's hilarious though.

I just-

Leave us some butt head, it doesn't hold up.

No?

I think it's fine.

It doesn't hold up.

I like it.

But it's just your teenage humor

that is what you were dying with now.

It's your older and the back.

I was never like a big South Park fan.

I just never got into it for some reason

but it is fucking hilarious.

And it's-

The other night, I'm laying in bed

and I turned it on just because

there was nothing else on it.

I'm just digging through.

You'll get hooked on it.

And my daughter comes in, she's 12

and she's just like staring at me like,

you watch this?

You're watching South Park?

She couldn't figure out like,

it was really disappointing to her.

Oh really?

She was bummed.

She was like bummed that I was-

Oh.

Yeah, she just didn't like it at all.

It's not for kids, it's for adults.

I know, but to Phil's point,

I mean the things they get away with

just because it is animated.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

They just changed the name of something

but it sounds the same.

You know what I mean?

I can just say it over and over and over.

The white lost drug called Lizzo.

Remember when all the Harley guys

rolled into town?

Did you ever see that one?

Yes.

Oh my God, man.

It's beautiful.

I've seen more of them than I should.

But we got to name whatever that is.

And that's the thing, my point was

that's the thing that you like to see that banter

and there's just those little snippets of like,

oh shit, he's pulling out personal stuff

that he knows because they're friends

and we're getting a little bit of a glimpse in that.

So were you lying to me in telling me

that the cameras weren't on earlier?

Oh yeah, we're 100% using that.

Yeah.

Yeah, we're using that shit for sure.

I just saw Tom Sigoura's new special, right?

It's an opening scene.

When he goes to the gym, dude,

it just keeps taking the wheat crash shots, brother.

That was the hardest episode to watch.

I was telling him about it

because he didn't see it yet

and not watch it.

I'm like, dude, you're not gonna believe it.

I was like two episodes behind.

He's like, he even got to it?

Yeah, I was like, no.

Dude, the Mexican cat in the old folks' home,

like where the Spanish guy or whatever he was

in the old folks' home.

You didn't see that one.

Oh my God.

You got to watch that one.

You don't talk about it or no?

Yeah.

His mind is fucked up.

Yeah.

He's funny as shit.

He's sitting on the dude's lap.

Yes.

That was a little much for me.

But he brings it.

The thing is, he brings it back full circle

all the way back at the end.

The V.

Yeah, I've got, yeah, my poster.

It's so bad.

My pre-show here was nothing like

an episode of Tom Sigoura's.

Bad thoughts, right?

Bad thoughts.

That's,

I've seen some bad stuff.

The VR goggles.

Yes.

The game.

What was it?

I haven't missed it.

Yeah, the VR goggles.

Yeah, the IT guy.

Yes.

He's in the corner.

He just brings it back full circle.

Anyway, so you're standing out there at the gate.

I've actually been to that facility several times

on the gate.

Could come back.

Yeah, I'm going to bring it back.

You've never been to Gas Monkey?

Never been.

So the shop's going to shape like an L in the front half

is where the offices are and like a little,

sorry, a little showroom area

where Richard keeps coming with his cars.

So you can kind of see into there

with the actual shop that we're building in

is, can't see it from the gate,

but there's a gate that runs along the whole thing

all the way over the merch side.

Keep the riff raff out.

Had the best name for him ever.

What's that?

Richard had the best name for him.

It's when the walking dead was coming out.

You call them all the walkers

because they're just on the fence like this.

Yes, I wouldn't have said that, but yes, that's what it is.

So anyway, when they're out there,

they go to the merch shop and then they'll come by.

And it's crazy because the place is not like here.

This is beautiful.

Your surrounding area is unreal.

It's like such a nice area to be in.

Over there is just-

Office Park, industrial park.

Have you been?

Mm-hmm.

Several times.

There's like a limestone quarry behind it.

And so it's just all dusty back there

from dump trucks and semis running all day long.

So it's not like people have to want to go there.

And it's crazy how many.

You don't happen upon it.

You know what I mean?

There's some massage parlors down over that way.

There's a gas station.

Yeah, then it would make sense

that you're like in the area and you're just-

Right, right.

After taking care of business, getting loosened up,

you want to swing by and grab some merch.

But anyway, people have to want to go there.

And it's crazy how many people go there.

And they're just standing at the fence.

It's unreal.

I mean, bus loads, it seems like, you know what?

So anyway, I was standing at the fence one day too,

checking it out and Jason came out and I told him

what I told him and he pulled me in

and I met Mike and all the guys and stuff

and just kind of told him my situation.

And so that it didn't work out over at Aaron's place

and he goes, man, you should come over here.

There's AC and it's bitching.

I'll talk to Richard for you.

So I gave him my number and I first kind of inquired

about other fabrication shops

because I was looking for a job.

I was essentially out of a job.

I'm out of where I literally just moved

my entire family here, my whole entire home.

That wife is super happy.

Wife is super stoked.

She's stoked.

Now I'm literally out of job.

Is she working?

You got kids at this point or you stay at home?

So you're the provider?

I'm the provider.

She does provide as well.

You know, obviously she's doing a ton of work

with the kiddos and stuff, but yeah.

Good blood, dude.

That was good.

That was nice.

She's an autism mom by the way too.

Yes, that's another thing.

So yeah, we have a little guy that's on the spectrum.

Great kid.

He's awesome.

Super high functioning.

He's a great dude.

I got an older daughter, 16 Emma Gage

who's 14 and then Molly who is 10.

And so we're up to our eyeballs and little people.

I got a 12, 12 and 14.

Yeah, so it's a lot at this moment from cheerleading

to softball to brick labs and all these different things

that Gage does and Emma does and tons of stuff.

So anyway, she's busy.

But the point of the story was

I needed to get another job pretty quick.

So fortunately, I happened to stop by there

and met Mike Coy and I don't think Mike's the best,

but you met Mike,

bought hit a guy at the Courtney's party

when we were at Vegas at the museum last year.

You 100% met.

Yes, yes, yeah.

He's honestly such a good person.

He has a really cool big piece of property

that has a pond on it and stuff.

So invited us out there to recycle racer.

Yeah, absolutely.

And so we went fishing on his pond stuff.

So it was kind of like a first friend out there

really that kind of kept us busy,

got me doing things and stuff

and then eventually gave my number to Richard

who then, whether he hired me

because he needed a fabricator

or if he did it just to spite Aaron,

I'm not quite sure of that.

It doesn't matter.

I got a job.

I actually ended up getting back on TV

which was what I moved out for

which chasing that camera, which is not the case.

But it was, I thought it would be a good way

to kick off Freeman's fabrication.

I just kind of opened up Freeman's fabrication in 2015,

got the call 2017.

Really just bare bones starting it out,

trying to figure out how to even run a business

and stuff like that yet.

And so to quit was kind of tough

because I was just kind of starting to get rolling.

Really wasn't making any money yet

but I thought this would be a great way to do it.

And I built a truck for my son

and right when I started the shop

I kind of quit my body shop job to build this truck.

I sold my daily driver to help pay for it.

And we moved in with family to help with gauges.

We had like a bunch of schooling gauges

doing like 40 hours of schooling a day.

It's called ABA, Applied Behavioral Analysis

and stuff like that.

So we moved in with family to pay for that.

Fortunately my wife's family was nice enough

to let me not or not have us pay rent

and be able to start a business.

So I built Hammerhead which is a 64 Chevy truck

that we kind of built for gauge.

It really wasn't intended for gauge initially.

It was just a way for me to get started

but then with gauges autism hitting pretty hard

and stuff it just, he didn't want anything to do

with me really he was all mom.

He would stay up for three or four days at a time

and be just not eating and stuff

and just kind of.

To figure out a way to lure him.

Correct, so I mean just a way to,

for me I had to figure out a way to keep my sanity

kind of, you know what I mean?

So I thought.

Did the cars resonate with him?

Is that something like.

He loves sharks, dinosaurs, stuff like that.

So that's the reason the trucks named Hammerhead.

If you ever see the truck it's got a big,

you know the 64 Chevy grill.

It looks like a Hammerhead that kind of wide.

So we painted it like a grayish color

but anyway that was my way to kind of cope with it I guess.

You know what I mean?

It maybe wasn't a positive thing maybe a hundred percent

but I did it and it ended up turning out great.

It was a good, yeah there it is.

It was a good way for me that's kind of like I said

that's my way to deal with things

is just put my helmet down like you do, you know

stay quiet put your helmet down and get to work

kind of thing.

And so we built that and that was kind of a good way

to jump off for Freeman fabrication

and then that's how I ended up earlier

like I was saying I was at Dino's

and met Aaron and then got the call

so now it's kind of all coming together.

I apologize for the convoluted story.

Yeah dude we're known for like really

staying on track is so structured.

That's the things that the listeners love

is the fact that we just go from topic to topic.

Well I hope you all are following.

The point of the story is I built the truck,

started the business.

It was a way to start the business

to getting exposure with that truck.

Let's give it to the truck.

And then thank you and then you know

then I got Aaron's attention enough to give me a call

and yeah there it is.

There's a ton of work into that thing.

I could go into you know there's two inches added here

there's this but you don't want to hear any of that right

because you're just enjoying it.

It's just enjoying it.

It's on the ground I can see that right.

The rockers are touching the ground.

It's I built the chassis but.

That's cool.

I like the color.

The color's sick.

I would actually ask you what color it is.

It was a Jeep renegade color at the time

but I added blue to it.

So it was like that grayish you know that

they called it SEMA gray at the time.

Hood to cowl stick.

I feel like a hood to cowl stick.

Good observation.

Yeah.

I may have set like a bad maybe bad example.

People moving forward I feel like are gonna

because I'm so approachable to begin with.

Yeah yeah yeah.

No one else is gonna want to talk to you

because they're gonna be like this guy's a fucking asshole

and if I talk to him about my car that's not the case.

Do you think they want to approach you though?

Probably not.

Probably most people probably not.

Right.

You've got a face of like.

They're giving off a look.

Yeah.

You think that's what it is?

It's not a bad face.

It's just a face of like for real.

It's like if you were on a buffet

and you're coming through you're like eh.

I don't know exactly what that is

but I'm sure there's probably something better down the line.

I didn't catch that.

That's.

I didn't catch it when I tried.

I'm talking about his face.

You didn't catch that?

I didn't actually.

I hate that you said because that makes,

that hurts.

Oh.

The buffet reference.

Oh wow.

Because I know exactly.

You know exactly.

I don't know.

It's probably fine but what if.

Yeah.

I don't fucking hate that.

You just throw it on the plate.

Just to check it.

How bad are you gonna be?

There might be like roast beef down there.

Yeah.

Exactly.

There might be the meat cut.

You don't wanna fill up on this crappy protein here.

There could even be the infamous chocolate dessert.

At the.

There's no guarantee that you're not the best

but there's still more to be seen.

There's a guarantee that there's something better.

That's what you're saying.

No.

That hurts.

Really?

Bad.

Yeah.

Yeah it really does.

He's crying over here.

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To Richard and whether he like I said we hired me in spite

or whatever either way I got the job

but I was at Waterburger with my buddy I was helping him do.

He does punch contracting so any homes that are brand new

he works with builders if there's a crack in the seam

or you know the movers hit the molding I'm fixing stuff

I'm hanging stuff and I was at Waterburger

and I got a phone call from Richard and it blew my mind.

I mean to be talking to Richard that's another thing

to do.

I mean I watched that show growing up and sure I mean

grown up but I mean watch that show.

Oh you can say that Richard's old as fuck.

Did he call with a lot of intensity

or did he call just like hey man.

The first thing he said was yeah when I knew who he was.

But no I mean it was pretty cool.

Hey man this is Richard and honestly

that guy's been amazing to me and my family.

I can't say nothing but good things about him.

He's been upstanding with I mean even when it's like

hey this is what we're gonna do

as far as your scheduling and working

and all that stuff he was true to it you know.

Whether it was helping out with when we went out to dinner

he goes go check out this place when we got there

not just that money's a thing but when we got there

we were waiting for the bill, the check

and it was already paid for.

The thing for our anniversary or for my birthday

or something like that my wife came down to the shop

picked me up and we went down to Dallas and Aten.

He'd already called ahead and paid for it.

Just little things like that that he doesn't have to do.

He definitely doesn't have to do it

and he'd still be the same guy that he is

but he does those little things so I mean

I had a great time there.

It was a little tough with some of the guys at first

because most of them were there for a really long time

and now I'm coming in and why are you here kind of a thing?

You know what I mean?

I'm already fabricating and I'm already you know

or whatever you know whatever the title was

or whatever I got put on that's normally what I do.

So I'm like it was hard to find my spot there initially.

Was Kenan still there?

Kenan is the best person I think ever.

Like he is just a workhorse and chill

and funny as hell.

So yeah I love Kenan.

Yes he was there fortunately I got to work

with him for three years.

He's still at Casey's?

I believe so yeah yeah yeah I mean

once the show was over and we all got kind of let go

and a couple people stood I mean stayed behind

and helped out a little bit until you know

a couple I think they did an OBS or something build

like after the show was over for YouTube and stuff

and some of them were there some of them weren't

but I think Kenan left and went back to Casey's yeah.

Were you just like a really big fan of the show

or do you know all these guys?

I was blown away that you know who Kenan is.

I know Casey really well

and I know that Kenan went to work for Casey.

I also I knew Aaron pretty good.

I've been Aaron's house a couple times

and hung out with him there.

Just his dogs at the time.

He aimed drop and like fucking crazy.

How we've just done stuff I remember we took.

We get it you know all the like big names

in the industry.

We were out there.

Awesome.

When we built Tim Spencer's Mustang.

You might know it it won the shine award.

We were out there.

We were out in Texas and.

Tell me a little about the car.

Tell me a little bit about the car some of the mods.

No anyway we were out we were out in Texas for good guys

and I knew Aaron so we brought the car by

for some of the guys to see then we went

and hung out at Aaron's house that night

and I've actually been there a couple of the times

and this is when this is this is back in heyday.

Yeah.

Aaron was still there.

Yeah.

And.

Fasten on.

So we just always stayed in touch.

We've been friends with Casey for a while.

I've never really spent much time with Kenan.

I just knew that Kenan went to work for Casey.

But I was I was I watched I watched pretty much every episode.

I was I was a big fan of that stuff here.

You got.

Regardless of the show regardless of reality

regardless of stuff you had a lot of our industry.

People brands and all that stuff you know going on.

And they did show they did show a lot of stuff in the show as

well a lot of the building which I liked you know what I mean

there was yeah you see what was going on some of the shows

they didn't do that and I appreciated that about that

and that's one thing honestly when I when I got there

I didn't know what it was going to be like

because I've been around some other shows and stuff

and some of those cars aren't really cars

you know what I mean these cars were real drivers

I mean sometimes you know obviously off camera

you had to you know fully bleed the coolant system

a little bit better or whatever you know what I mean run

through it run the bugs out of it who wants to see that

nobody wants to see that but but really truly

an actual running nice functioning car that was

could be sold and not have to get redone

you know what I mean so I was proud of that

the process is what I learned a lot from there

actually is just the they were they were

each had their own little thing like I was saying

earlier I was kind of jumping in on things

and it's like no I do that no I do that

I'm trying to find my place because TV actually

was a you know the camera was a commodity there

and so if you could get on the camera

like you know there was some animosity fighting

with other guys for they would fight with me

and in because I was the new camera so the

camera guys would on be like hey new guy

what do you got going on you know what I mean

and then it'd be like you know there would

always be a second person in on the scene

there that was a little bit of the problem

but you know once again as as the time

rolled on it got better and better and

better but was the woman that did the

upholstery as nice in person that she

came off on TV what was her name

Sue I sat with Sue before she's nice lady

honestly she just likes giving Richard

shit you know me I'm fat I mean everybody

gives every gotta be gotta be watching for

that little yeah we talked about it

before a couple times and Richard's been

on Richard and Dennis did the show and

probably need to run that one back that

one was a little bit of a Richard's

been the only guest to order pizza

during podcast it was delivered it was

full throttle Richard's where it was

Richard and Dennis so you know exactly

how that is that's that's a you too

that's a that's a that's a measuring

contest for two hours right I think they

had that was pre-garage beer but they

had a number of beers in them

they came on they came on tipsy and

ended I was like mid-party and they're

like oh should we got that podcast

don't let's do it don't ever try to

go beer for beer with Richard oh no

I mighty man I I have a lot of respect

for Richard as a person business person

right hundred percent I don't take all

car bill take everybody wants to say

what they want to say on style and

wild but I don't care about that yeah

with you the stories you know the

that we know the stories that we

learned about on the podcast and then

you know our interaction I haven't talked

to Richard probably in probably a year

but there we talked a good bit you

know and texting back and forth and

on different stuff and Bill text him

now see if he answers I'll text Richard

right now Texan fucking dropping the

shit out of fucking name they're piling

up right next to you I can see him in

between there's a pilot over yeah let's

text him I think you guys might fight

this one hey Richard be it's pretty

wild today I'll call it hey Richard

what's up it's Josh and just leave it

at that and I'll bet you the next for

if there's a response it's gonna be

Josh question mark should I text as well

and see if he responds that'll be

like yeah it'll be Josh Freeman

question mark I'm gonna do this it might

not be fair it was just there last week

oh that's fine what are you putting in

there that's a long text it's not just a

hey you got this let's sit down you

win right is that how that works you

should we'll see give them one we'll

see the point the point is is the

amount of things that he's done gone

through the tenacity there's there's

just there's just a yeah there's

something deep inside him that this guy

this guy just get it go after it from

little things like I heard a story just

the other day from Mike actually that

they were in a sprinter cruising along

which is like pull over our ticket

piss he jumps out take a piss on the

side of the road and there's a hundred

dollar bill blown in the weeds right

there like he's just that guy he always

is lucky we were playing quarters

you're at the way yeah we were at some

high-end like a car show where ladies

wear hats and you had to be dressed up

and whatnot Kentucky Derby and yeah

something like that but it was her

cars a pebble beach Texas Pebble Beach

kind of thing I don't know they call

it but anyway we're playing quarters

and he was fucking hammered I'm like

dude I'll bet you a hundred bucks I

you know we were playing quarters

against there was a whiskey glass up

against the wall on a little short

table like they would move the end

table over this motherfucker damn near

tossed it over her shoulder and made it

in you know they mean I fucking didn't

even hit the table I don't think but

but it's pretty it's pretty wild how he's

that clutch guy he's that guy who can

make something out of nothing at all

he's in just into with TV stuff I don't

mean to sit here and just fucking no

it's awesome he's but honestly I mean

you're drinking his beer and stuff like

that on time I mean whatever thank you

for this but you had it here yeah I

did we just appreciate it we're taxing

him and stuff he was kind he sponsored

he sponsored all the beer at the

Roachers shop that's an RS party it's

the same he's sent he's sent pallets of

a road shop party real quick my wife

actually won a 50% off of something a

borla exhaust at one year roaster shop

parties

although that would have been did she

cash it in she didn't you know it's

in sorry it's expired don't call us

now I'm actually here for it now it's

why I'm here how big a suitcase you

got yeah carry on carry on it's my

supporting cost I'm waiting yeah you're

ready to get he said hey man you get no

we did not what's going on no we don't

see it you got it he said you got a

second there's a good chance that since

that's an Android it didn't actually get

sent I could call right right showed a

blue and he was like yeah but he is a

hey I got a lot of spec for me yeah

he's cool on the podcast we we met him

like so early on yeah he was showing

up on the scene in like the early

2000s at like good guys natural and he

was back to the 50s he came out there

with bull run days with the rat rod

right he had something so different than

what everybody else was doing it from

the outside looking in you're like who

the fuck is this ass yeah I saw my

early I guess the fucking huge as truck

and yeah but he had an image and he

had a goal and I respect the hell I

guess he just stuck with it yeah and

it's it landed dude and he knocked

out the fucking part yeah you know

it's nobody understood it you know they

didn't but he knew what he was doing

yeah you know it's funny parts to sell

merch yeah I'm not being this is not a

dig or anything I'm not trying to be

an asshole no not this isn't yeah this

is to you to this is you to practice it

with that you said you talked about

like when he showed up on the scene

you're like who the fuck is this guy

that was the exact same thing everybody

said about you to really you you two

and and your dad with the toter home

showing up at the shows with all

these chassis it's it's like I know you've

been doing shows but not in a bad way

it's like where the fuck did this come

from and it really was and that was that

was the buzz around was it always here

we'll see how we were out in Elgin

little West like 30 miles west tiny

little shop yeah okay you you've been

we've all been there before when

you're like that looks a little bit

like too good to be true flying too

close to the Sun try peeking too

early all those different types of

you know statements where it's like

that's and then now look but it that's

that was a thing it's just funny here

and you say that interesting to see the

perception of it from somebody else's

eyes yeah because I know like I know some

of the rumors right you know oh yeah

that doesn't want it wanted to believe

that doesn't matter yeah but regardless

of any of that it would there was

the the facts were holy shit you show

up on a big stage the biggest possible

way the biggest possible rig the best

looking rig with the most amount of

chassis sounds pretty awesome over

overnight seeming like and then do that

smokes the most amount of cigarettes

to like that had to be a part of it

he you yeah that's even me had times

like dude we just smoked one we don't

have to go out again I'm surprised we

didn't get we're talking about their

debt yeah okay I'm surprised there wasn't

any like clawback from good guys after

when you're pulling away the pile the

cigarette behind like the hand and it

would just be pacing all day and then

you know he wasn't like you are not

that I care but he was like risk you're

like respectful if you like die a

cigarette out now watch you pick and

I'm like why are you picking it up

because for you know 35 years I grew

up in my dad fucking cigarette was

just you know wherever the fucking

went there's no time in a place I

mean depending on where we're at but but

there had to have been a carton would you

say probably carton a cigarette over a

good guys weekend there was a carton

that's why he's two pack a day guy right

if I would say this it's a this is the

best way to describe it if you're

having a conversation there's always a

cigarette lit yeah however many that is

for however long the conversation is

right so if you're talking there's

not a time when a cigarette's not lit

and if and that's I'm honestly that's how

why any of this like it's why I exist

here it was because of Neil it's crazy and

because I don't even because of cigarettes

if we really it goes back to tobacco we

all we owe it all to tobacco yeah I lie

my mom smoked really I take that back

but I mean none of my friends smoking

shit like nobody smokes cigarettes

anymore how you don't know a bunch of

cool people then yeah the coolest

people first time I just saw him

the first time he was outside so he is

which like part of it I'll give it to

him like there's an element of cool

about it because it's so old-fashioned I

know many friends that took it out like

we were 21 just to go out and meet

people you know what I mean I hate it

or whatever like outside the bar or

whatever but there's also the same

element of like it pisses me off the

exact same way it did with my dad

that like you're in the trailer it's

fucking 90 degrees and there's always

like there is no you're so not

cognizant of you don't smell a lot of my

smoke how inconvenient it is for others

I don't smoke in the truck when you're

all around there I don't smoke when

y'all are in the vehicle and I don't

smoke a lot around I'll step I'll step

off I've been I've been better at it

I will say this when we went to go see

the chassis shop and I knew you smoked

I was like I hope he doesn't smoke in

the car with me oh no I don't do that

and you didn't but I'm just saying

truly that was the thought that went

through my head because I don't like

it for whatever reason whether I'm

allergic and I know that people

have strong stances about it so

should try doing what my dad used to

do you just hold the cigarette back

here and then it would go back there

during conversation but when we were

working on shit together it was just

in the fucking mouth in your face is

pops though now no he passed was 2019

do you mind if I ask to vacate him

no so here's the thing okay talk some

shit yeah he died of cancer right but

his lungs were the last thing to go

the fucking mint mint

okay what just fucking not inhale or

what like 16 years it was the best gift

he ever gave me I was like oh so I can

keep going yeah fuck yes let's keep

going six six and 16 years old like two

packs a day and then once he got

cancer he thought now it's time like we

should probably stop not double down

no he did stop and then took up

cigars and then started smoking

sugar chain smoking fucking cigars yeah

right why which just think about what

that came out of your inheritance

because I was left with nothing it was

all like marble miles I remember like

going through that time and like

traveling and stuff and like now that

then the pelican box you know the

travel pelican box showed up and he's

like I'm transitioning to you know

cigars like oh okay that's what's in the

whole that cigars oh yeah we're going

gone four days dude that's that's a

that's a small store like you could

literally start a pop-up cigar in

Vegas and have and have enough for the

weekend it got to the point to we

we had a connection we got a good

body Garfield's like I don't know we

can oh we don't have to okay because

he'd hook up it's legal and then he's

got a cigar guy to right the trading

bar goes up Cuban cigar Cuban cigar

guy will a case a box a box of Cuban

cigars about $900 right holy shit the

ones that he and every time he'd be

like hey you talked to Dave it grab

me another box we're gonna make yeah

we're in a box well he didn't pay for

him right okay 900 bucks 900 it's like

20 got spent like 20 grand and you're

gonna be in cars like that's insane

yeah just fucking Cubans and the living

it yeah the cigarettes though like that

was that was our the conversations and

the things I learned just strictly by

having cigarettes and popping out and

smoking but I thought you give me shit

all the time because I'll we'll go out

to dinner you know the four of us like

our wives or friends and we'll tolerate

each other we'll go to dinner and stuff

like that really yeah and order drinks

have some drinks get some appetizers

and then or you know waiting on food

I'll pop out and have a cigarette

cigarette dude fucking killing me

fucking shit's got to stop good now we

were on the when we were doing the

circuit when we were doing the shows

every single weekend we go out to

dinner Thursday night after setup

Friday night after a show Saturday night

after a show right always every all

three nights texting during the day

where we going at Phil's texting me

hey start finding some places for

dinner we would smoke before we went

in we'd sit down order drinks have

a sip of a drink go out have a

cigarette come back have a taste of

appetizer and I'm and I'm like man we

could sit there and eat and are you

talking YouTube or no me and me and me

and you don't you don't I don't know

cigarette me and Neil and it was all

and he'd look at me like happy I did

we just literally just got done I'm

smoking 100s he's smoking regulars

and I've I've already gone through half

a pack but shit it's different when

there's two people though I feel like

it's less rude sure when you get up

really look like an asshole it fucking

looks terrible I'm telling you this is

paid back for the buffet comment that's

fine go ahead give it to me it looks bad

it looks what part of it just standing

up and leaving it because I could be

going to the restroom I can be doing

anything but you're not but it'd be

like the girl on the train that we

saw that went to the restroom a lot

she obviously it's something going on

right she we should tell that story

we should are you sure if we yeah

we're deep this is derailed so it could

be patreon stuff yeah this now this

is a teaser this is a teaser for

patreon stuff coming TBD but let me

finish just with the fact that dude it

is so fucking rude well like nice ass

dinners I mean you'll go out somewhere

like our wives are like foodies and

Chicago's a great place for for dinner

and you can go have some really nice

dinners and this asshole just I've

never ruined a dinner just walks out

just up and like no it's always it

there's always a slow spot there's

always there's always a low for you

maybe yeah but everybody else is like

where the fuck is he going and then

yeah you come back smelling like a fucking

ash nobody can smell me I came home

yesterday and my wife said you fucking

stinky smell were you with Josh today

I'm like yeah I don't remember being near

him when he was smoking we smell like

cigarettes that's untrue I'll text it

right now she'll respond I'm like Richard

but I'll bitch if I take oh look that

yeah right dude what what's up oh I

hang loose hang loose dude what's going

on yeah oh anyway here whoo is that

what it said yeah whoo how many how many

owes you're not gonna respond three o's

you responded do you want to tell the

story are we are we gonna go we'll cut

no we'll coast tell the story okay so

know the story but I'm guessing it's

not gonna be something you should have

shared after the fact you don't know

this story I told that I don't know it

but I know but you're about to know it

that's the beauty of telling it some

people would probably find it funny so

we go to the city no this is work you

know I can tell the story pretty well

yeah I'm just questioning the should it

be told well I can tell it I think it

could be I can tell it you know I can

tell it in a way that it should be

delivered and I'm sure your brother

will embellish on it to the point

where it's questionable whether we

should edit it or not it seems good

it seems like a great right there

that's true I'm ready I'm here for it

phenomenal truth that's the beauty

this is you couldn't say anything more

this is just a teaser of what you will

be getting on oil and whiskey uncensored

coming soon

the industry is going to only fans now

I know but we're gonna thing is we're

gonna take it all off if we do it if we

do it I mean I mean like we're gonna

say all the things oh right yeah we're

not gonna censor ourselves got it

can we get a cut if we promote can I

do the blurry thing

yeah yeah absolutely yeah so we go to

the city a few weeks ago for Spencer's

birthday go to dinner we leave the city

and are getting on the train to come

back by the city mean Chicago yeah

Chicago so it's the four of us it is

me and Jeremy and it is our wives

we've had a good night this is the

last excuse me last train out of the

city did you stand up in the middle of

dinner and go have a say he did yeah in

a fucking Michelin star dinner unreal I

did yeah okay didn't ruin the

experience for anybody didn't mean to

didn't really you enjoyed it you were

having a say yeah I'm sorry what's what

about that what about what is it if they

probably thinks you're I don't even

like it's what's going on

on speakerphone no we're sitting here

doing a podcast with Josh Freeman and we

were talking shit and I said I could

text Richard right now and I bet you I

get a text back and then Josh Freeman

said I could text him he's but that's

not fair I was just there a couple weeks

ago so I texted you and then not only

do you not text back you called so the

props props to fucking Richard Rawlings

we're good we're just we just went on

for like 30 minutes giving me I

singing your praise about how much we

respect your tenacity and everything

you've done in the industry so we wanted

to give you a shout all I heard was I

got a new cell phone I didn't know if

the fuck this one I heard yeah I was

just like pocket dial I don't need a new

roof my sightings fine you didn't you

didn't miss anything at all this

played out fucking perfect I hate that

that happened so do I this one said

fuck yeah we can edit that out yeah

Josh is telling me about that good luck

on that I'll give you a shout tomorrow

sure you will all right back that you

guys when you guys put your text all

fucking what was night whatever did

move but yeah it's not a big deal so

your story you're telling a story

tonight tonight has been it's not going

good for me it's not yeah it's been

a night it's not going good for me

tonight anyway we we get on the train

last train of the night headed out

right so our wives are tired and

over served and we unfortunately do a

fair amount of drinking so we don't get

drunk anymore right it's a it's an

unfortunate hazard to this line of

work we can drink a shit ton and very

rarely do we even get tipsy so we're

sitting there we're having a good

time right wives are drunk we're on the

train we notice people we very

observant right very observant right

watchers for people watchers sometimes

we tell stories about those people we've

we've talked about it a lot on this

podcast we're sitting there and there's

a group to the left of us we're in a

booth it's the four of us in a booth

there's a group to the left of us and

there's two guys and a chick and she

gets up goes to the bathroom comes

down sitting there literally like three

minutes later she gets up goes to the

bathroom sits down you see you're going

to the bathroom yeah she gets the first

little girl the first couple of times

it's just like oh she's getting up it's

rare to see anybody really get up and

use the bathroom on the train you

try to avoid doing you try playing

same thing yeah so it happens twice

and it's like oh it's we've got a we've

got about a 50 minute about an hour

ride train from the city so we're

sitting there and happens twice and you

kind of draw notice to it you know sure

draw attention then it happens if they

happen the third time try not to go on

the third time now she's she's gone for

a little bit right so now now the little

bit of storytelling creativity starts

and then it's riffing right and then

what's no ball yeah and then it's like

the oh I mean I just like I don't know

so now there's a couple of things going

on there's a couple stories at hand right

this is a this is a deep yeah well it's

happening it's like there's a there's a

thing like your wives are there and it's

kind of like a like the ones they don't

they don't poop right it's like you know

of course so I've been married for 15

plus years my wife is never yeah right I

don't know what I do with it right

you care during the day something that's

I think something to do with the

dishwasher or something there's something

there but anyway so that this is

happening we can generally get about four

to five minutes going before they are

noticing right because they're carrying

on the conversation well then as we

start getting a little bit more hyped up

and animated then they start drawing

attention to like what sound effects

coming in and stuff and then it's

usually starts with either one of them

saying the same thing of like Freeman

fabrication what the fuck's wrong with

you and it was like oh no it's what's

wrong with her you're like what are you

talking about no they don't know they

haven't picked up on it right because

they're not observant right that's fine

the female females are great at so many

things like picking up on you know

things is sometimes you know some of

them are not that great so she comes

back now it's like oh wow that's a

little bit of a bit of a bit of a

bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of

that's a long time right so now now

they're picking up our wives are like

oh stop right like no you realize she

was gone for a long time she hasn't

you know first time she went to the

bathroom where do you give in the girl

hard time so women can't use the

bathroom like that's the third time

that's not the third time well you

haven't paid attention right because

y'all are chit-chatting about dumb

shit we've been paid that's the

third time that's the third time in

the third time was at least ten

minutes right it's been ten minutes

show it in it literally as we're

having this conversation she's up

again I'm like and now they're like

bubble bubble guys oh stop stop don't

even draw attention to it and now so now

we're going into it right and they were

being compassionate all that poor thing

imagine that like I'm trained oh my

terrible spot terrible situation to be

here to the guy now every time now

this happens it continues right she had

to go on a total of six times but

every time she sits down then the

guys are like both the guys are like

super nice and like compassionate you

know they're actually yeah I mean I can

say the word let alone be it so I know

I can't say it like we're consoling her

when she yeah they were like they were

almost playing it off like nothing that

she would just come back and they go

hey and they just pick up the

conversation he'd like put his arm

you okay they talk and like if that

was I would be talking about what the

fuck is going on the fuck happen

is it like I'll take a second there

like what you know so to bring to

this first full circle Tom Segura style

right so we had a story that she'd been

gone five or six times we were convinced

that before our next stop before we got

off we were convinced that she was

going to come out right with a little

plastic shopping bag and bunny ears right

like a little jewel jewel Oscar for

people around with what you think right

and so what's wrong with leaving it

there well there was a word the good

ones right so we were convinced we're

and I'm so we're sitting there we're

going back and forth we're going fucking

dying because I've got we can see the

same picture before saying anything

as I do when she comes back it's gonna

be like oh like with the little bunny

ears yeah it's like this holding it

I'm crying so a little a little plastic

fucking terrible so so she just had some

bad chicken no she got destroyed that

was that was bad Indian food that would

be bad so anyway it didn't happen

however we were crying laugh and now the

wives are like you know they're halfway

asleep because time it's late and then

also halfway annoyed because we're

laughing like children so that happens

goes away like a week and a half later

he texts me and says he needed

something we were going over there for

something you needed you need me to bring

something for old-fashioned oh hey do you

got any sugar cubes can you bring me

some sugar cubes I need sugar cubes

I was like yeah it's fine I'll bring them

I said this is expensive artisan sugar

I said I'll trade them for a Sammy

Sosa rookie card hmm wow interesting

and yeah so is it ever done before you

think he said you're fucking high

keep your expensive ass sugar I'm not

giving away a Sammy Sosa rookie card

right so anyway I get over there and

but I I ended up caving and offered you

a Ken Griffey June yeah you said I got

I'll give you a king of each year rated

rookie ready rated so I get to his

house and he's got a Sammy Sosa

rookie card and Ken Griffey rookie

card and a Jewel Osco bag with the

bunny here's on round feels ready to

go home yeah we need that Billy

Madison from the spelling bee at no

point in this conversation yeah anything

yeah we're all no no there's a people

that's your call I don't know if this is

just this is 10% of what you'll get on

uncensored for $10 a month on patreon

hey oh 10 you guys discuss that money

or that's 10 bucks a month is I think

anything more than 10 bucks a month

we'd have to like actually yeah from

a subscription base yeah you have to

go under the name Mike Hancho if

you're going for more than that

yeah for sure 10 bucks a month we bear

it all story wise yeah it was Phil shows

you a little bit of crack just a little

you're gonna send pictures your feet

dude I gotta see pictures that feet

before we let them on uncensored because

it might be too off-putting hey there's

a there's a foot for everyone dude can

it wrap around a baseball bat no okay

good then it's normal-sized feet all

right fabrication fabrication we're back

no well I put most of this blame on you

for starting off with what you started

off hey where we go you're right you're

right but I didn't like it open the

door I just I feel like we connected

you know it's like that's this is what

we're gonna do we're gonna take we're

gonna take a bathroom break and then

we're gonna get right back into

fabrication okay that's the way to do

it that's it's a reset little reset

yeah solid you need another garage

beer I'm sure I'm sure of it I do yeah

you're not coming fucking jewel baggy

are you okay yeah but that's like where

the content is sure we'll just dive

right back into it you to get talking

you fucking YouTube stuff that's a good

touch on I think Josh I just break to

have a cigarette a cigarette I use the

bathroom to them and do you know we

fucking knocked on a cigarette that

quick a fucking yeah I'm pro yeah

years the YouTube thing try this as

an amateur I think that's a great topic

you because you I mean you definitely

have like the personality for TV you've

been on TV yeah a fair amount sure and

you're talking about is that an option

is that a good next move is getting

on YouTube and showing like whatever you

want to do if it's just like informative

fabrication stuff or if it's just kind

of following everything you do yeah you

know honestly I love I love doing the

I see you talking about out the cans I

love I it's weird to hear myself it's so

strange anyway um yeah YouTube is a

viable option it's just like I was

telling you a second ago that um I'm the

kind of guy I like to be under the

under the welding helmet or you know

behind the grinder or whatever you know

just actually making stuff and

fabricating it's hard for me to stop

and be like okay put a camera up at

this angle set a camera up over here

is an edited I'm the worst at

going back and you know taking the

time to edit something put a video

together I have to literally have an

accountability me and my buddy we like

Sundays you must post probably not the

best day to post either because sure you

know whatever but you know to get the

most views and stuff and and I think I

just need to post more but um but anyway

I as far as the YouTube thing like you

were saying you need to have someone

that's just kind of their document

that's kind of their job and I'm a

one-man show that's kind of not in

the cards a little bit I think I

would be good at it it's just

taking the time to do it you know I

think I'm good at explaining things

especially when I know what I'm

talking about like with what I'm doing

I'm good at explaining it to the

average person so they are interested

in what what's going on and and

actually seeing how it all comes

together and stuff I think there's a

spot for that I just don't think I'm

very good at doing this hard being

productive doing it like the TV stuff

like you got to set up the camera and

then you're gonna weld this and like

you see a handful of guys do it

really really well in the videos like

you're super engaged yeah just making

that piece seems like it would take

forever but just then setting up the

camera 15 different ways to film

it and then edit it afterwards and I

mean simple things like when we were

overwhelmed when we were on TV we would

take a car and push it out of paint and

over into fabrication or vice versa you

know over to over to paint actually and

first scene would be them outside

watching the door roll up us pushing it

out then stop push it back in get a

good back to the other shops can't have

camera guys in the other shot and so

I mean that's that's why I can't

make any money doing that you know I

mean I need to be working and bill

for those hours yeah that's generate

money off the YouTube side to correct

what good luck doing that like what

students at the woodworking guy we had

on some terror of a terrible memory

Jason from bourbon moth yes that's a

motherfuckers ripped now yeah ripped

but I'm not you want to talk about me

my physique yeah you're in shape dude

that I'm telling you what this dude had

he had a glow up as they say this

dude is a man let's talk about his

wood you see he does an amazing job

that's what that's great that's great

but it's a good example for you because

he we had him on the podcast and it was

pretty cool because he just kind of like

rolls with it you know and he talks

about like how instead of getting like

super into it and trying to like

capture the shot it's very real

because it's it's him and his iPhone

and little editing but I mean he's

got a massive following he does a great

job YouTube he's got a huge following

yeah he does before our podcast he had

nothing so good job that's just a

little bit he was he was big before

this podcast oh yeah just just a

little it's completely unnecessary I

mean that's great that's great but

totally off-topic well if you look if

you go back to the episode that he was

on and you see him doesn't relate it

all to what we're talking about we're

talking about his him doing YouTube the

way that he films I brought a little

extra to it yeah that's fine but that's

that's the beauty of it's very much

I like him I like him a lot he's a

really cool guy I love watching his

video I've probably not missed an

episode that he's done okay point being

it's it's relatable to what you're

doing right I guess he's he's just a

dude and he's building really cool

stuff and he makes relatable videos in

the YouTube demonstrates that and his

whole thing was like yeah instead of

having like he doesn't have a film crew

it's him he goes out in the garage and

he's videoing it yeah he's got he's got

a team he's got he's got a guy I will

give you a secret I'm ready for here's

a little secret I'm gonna shut the

fuck up and no you just how about

you just taught how's that you tell

the story you brought a great today

today you brought a great I get my

camera tidbit I think he's he's an

amazing it's a it's an awesome segue

into yes that's a guy that can actually

build stuff and do it the problem and he

talked about a little bit now most of

the stuff he's doing is stuff for for

himself now right because he's now he's

became a YouTube content creator he's

an influencer right so he's so now the

projects that you're doing is for the

camera for the camera and a lot of

stuff for himself he's doing a big

remodel at his house he's doing an

outside thing he's done some stuff for

his kids it's like that so the time that

it takes to do your own project when

you're doing it for YouTube it's a

little different than documenting stuff

you're doing for a customer because like

you were saying Phil it's hard to charge

when you're sitting there setting up

camera getting the right angles the

thing that I was gonna go with now the

segue from where you the after you

don't mean wrong no the great piece

of content that you brought right the

thumbs up it gold star gold star

work work he's a now Scott Scott's

rides right the Camaro that we have here

in the shop right that's that's the

unveil TBD right still new fresh hasn't

been unveiled to the public yet of the

why it's here he's he's got a really

good bucks I won't post it he's got a

really good following as well on

Instagram and doing starting to get

into YouTube this is he's a one-man

show he has nobody else doing it he's

capturing the stuff now with

metaglasses hmm so he's putting the

metaglasses on and doing the stuff right

so it's a lot different in your POV is

gonna be a lot easier right instead of

doing so that there's an option there

with doing the fabrication that you

would just normally do and not set up for

cuts and not serve just do the job

you've used over just catch it do the

project then come back and edit what

you're doing and then do like you

said the voiceover thing there's something

there you see how that worked yeah it was

long it was a long-winded way you said

metaglass I'm glad that you're picking up

on that too yeah I gave a shout out I

thought that was something that you

would appreciate hmm okay right yeah

anyway YouTube should do it I serious

I think I think it would be yeah I like

I said I think I I need to my everyone

tells me I need to you know what I it's

now that I'm here I get it now I've

watched like I said I've watched a few

episodes listen to a lot of women I get

it now yeah he's not this is not super

like you see you guys right actually

deal with each other at all you guys

hate each other I'm figuring out it's

a fucking deal I'm sorry I'm sitting

right in the corner I realized cheese

might be fine but dude the most

hurtful thing you've said to me so

far out of all three seasons three

hundred episodes with the buffet thing

it's wild it's a lot things I'm gonna

actually I'm gonna probably go home and

talk to my wife about that do you have

like help.com or whatever it is right

I don't but it's gonna probably talk

through that one the reason and the

reason the reason it resonates

somebody is because I know you so well

I know how many buffets that you've

done that exact thing that's why it

hits home it's really the simple truth

yeah I mean to shade it was well well

played it was a figure no hurt but it's

done liked it I didn't I didn't at the

same time and I appreciated it yes I

appreciate your creativity on it and

I'm actually a little jealous that I

didn't come up with that all right so

bringing it bringing it we've done

enough with Jason bring it full circle

you are at gas monkey what no right

now no I know well make sure you're

aware I'm yeah I'm getting it I'm

getting it all wrangled back in so you're

at gas monkeys you do the thing at what

point is it going through your head of

like I maybe want to I maybe could

like it's gonna be I think I can do

my own thing so like I said I was

doing my own thing when I got the

call from Aaron right and then there's

there was no way I had the means being

jobless to start up my shop again back

in even though I had all the tools just

it didn't seem like something I could

just you know at the drop of a hat rent

to shop again and start up I needed to

get a job and get going and get to know

people get a client you know get

some clients stuff in and you know

left them all behind back in Southern

California you know what 20 plus years

of being there so I had no client list

when I was here so or in Texas but

so yeah man I mean I just worked out I

was at gas monkey for three and a half

years and and eventually the show ended

so I mean I don't know which question

was I forgot so I was just thinking

about I was just thinking about actually

at all coming to an end in yes show the

show's coming to an end yeah you're

gonna go back to doing your own shop

but now you're in Texas correct I got

it's somewhat starting over again yeah

and there was that was a big thing so

I started once by moving here great

there was a start yes start this is

what you do right yeah I got you just

don't don't fucking dude I don't it

right you to stuff like a wall I'll

leave it alone yeah dude yes he's he's

wounded now don't fuck with that don't

fuck with that little coyote you find

in the woods you got his foot caught in

a trap wings like a flash out so starting

over coming to Texas right so now

now the job that the TV shows ended

right the it's no longer fast and loud

the discussion was do we move back to

California do we stay here we had a

really great schools for the kids in

Texas was awesome so I mean we decided

to stay and take another chance and in

start frame fabrication again I did

have some some you know I knew a guy

from gas monkey I started making some

contacts there and stuff so when I when

I left and started man I had a couple

people that brought their stuff to me

right away and that kind of got the

ball rolling and then getting out there

a little bit of traction from gas monkey

and being on it for three and a half

years helped obviously that's why I did

it in the first place it wasn't as much

of a help as I thought it was going to

be to be honest with you I think it

was weird to I worked there for like

almost two years before an episode even

aired so we had a bunch in the bank and

so by the time like they were I was

already gone and they were still

airing you know what I mean like I

was already the show was already done and

they were still showing the episode so

that was good and bad you know I mean

it kind of prolonged it so then it

actually kind of took longer and I had

a job at the time so it didn't matter

they weren't airing you know what I

mean so it's actually kind of working

out and so frame and fabrication

started rolling and it ended up you

know really being good here the scene

is actually pretty here but in in

Texas is really good there's a lot

of people that are sure hot rodders

you know you don't see them like

you do in Southern California driving

everywhere on the streets all the

time but if you go to a cars and

coffee or if you go to any local

shows man there's some really nice

cars and as you you know start to

really get into it there's a ton of

builders there's a ton of people that

are in Texas it's a great spot some

people with money which is obviously

you know unfortunately not

unfortunate but it's weird to say

it's what you're looking for what you're

looking for to build a nice car you

want someone that has money and

someone that's willing to to take

that risk and you know build a car

with you so um you can drive me

around on like up here we got three

months out of the year to use them

yeah that is that is a you know

what there's a ton of cars up here

though like when I grew up in

Wisconsin I mean Iola and stuff I mean

people are building all winter for

summer you know I mean so that's

that's another aspect it's another

thing it's a good time to build

which is cool where you're never

missing out on the the cruising days

because you're in winter project

winter project yeah so I mean Texas

there's people with money and so we

we doubled down because the kids

were already locked in in their

schools and and yeah man I mean it's

kind of just worked out I've met

some people and build a bunch of

stuff for Toyota did it put put

pizza ovens in the back of a brand

new Lexus you know whatever some SUV

thing it's like a hundred and eighty

thousand dollars I've done the owner

of Toyotas limo I've swapped body

swapped it like did a did just up

the year you know from a 15 to a

2024

Akio Toyota has a place in our

guile like with a big track like a

private track and stuff and so he

has an eight bullet proof and bomb

proof limo that I've done for him

just from you know friends that I

know that have in the scene you

know just people you start getting

getting to know people and so it

were here you know me we're there in

Texas and it works out so I'm

honestly were one man show I just do

what I do and that comes back to the

to the YouTube and being a one man

show it's kind of hard to do all that

stuff you know I mean I was so blown

away coming here and seeing you all

and what's going on I can't like I

told Josh I can't fathom how it's

even happened and like you said it

just happens soon as you don't have

the people to do what you need to

get done and you're doing it all

you hire someone to do it and you

hire someone to do more and then you

hire more people to do that and this

and it eventually just grows and that

is mind blowing to me is the the

the machine that you all have going

on here it's it's so impressive to

know that all of those chassis I saw

today are all accounted for already and

there's still more right behind it

and there's all the there's all the

control arms and there's all I mean

it's it's it's wild I mean I truly

think I mean I follow you on

Instagram stuff and you guys the

fabrication shop was so impressive to

me it's a it's a beautiful setup in

the cars that are in there I know you

can't show some of them because clients

don't want you to show them or like you

were talking with with who you're

dealing with and what you got going on

but but I mean y'all need to show that

more because that's interesting as

hell like the your boys over there

there's some really talented guys I

mean it's it's really cool to see and

so there's there's some there's some

love and hate there for me on that you

see you start seeing people doing that

stuff and it's like man you get down

on yourself sometimes you know you get

that FOMO like I know what's going

on like other people are crushing and

I'm just this guy and you know one

man you know one-man show so then embrace

that though you should break because that

means you still care yeah there's we talk

about Troy all the time if you see

somebody doing something so amazing yeah

and it doesn't make you want to do

better that means you don't care about

the thing correct you just appreciate

what he's doing but you don't really care

about flip that mindset perspective

you've got you've got an ego problem

if you can't recognize what yeah is

like be happy for them well yeah be

happy but you should always work like

I geek out on like there's some really

cool like metal shaping guys out there

and fabricated I just like I mean I just

love watching this the skills and like

try to you know I've learned enough

over the years that it like it resonates

with me and I see it you can just learn

from the pictures but you've got to

always recognize like I'm not saying that

we are but who's doing it better than

you there's always somebody there's

always somebody doing it better which

off of it as you know to me like it's

like honestly some of the best advice

out there as soon as you think like

you've just fucking got it figured out

always somebody better yeah search

metal better search metal on on

Instagram and see how good you are

you know real quick I mean there's some

metal shape and shit that shows up

that I'm like oh my god yeah the

dude the chick that's building that

many truck that's out dude or stout

stout stout 64 stout isn't wild I

don't know that one I don't think yeah

you're the one that brought to the

table and sandals doing it and sandals

that one I yeah beat it in the room

and she's got a shop now I don't I

don't find her it was coming up a lot

in my feet I don't follow it now she's

got a she's got a shot with now she's

got a concrete floor like an actual

shop so can you pull the roof skin

and stuff like that all of the seed

brackets you see the seed brackets I

haven't seen so low right early she was

doing floor paint there's hydraulic

floor pans and stuff and the floors

were like sick I mean like deep draw

yeah stuff right yeah no different

one yeah talented that's it yeah these

control arms yeah but I'm sorry I'm not

I mean hey but at the stock control arm

smoothed out I don't I don't they're cool

there's a lot of work in them they're

beautiful dude don't gotta do what you

got to do with what you got no no no

this person that she can make whatever

yes like they're I'm sorry pull it

I mean hey no it's just impressive we

can if we go to the go to the the

seed brackets or it was really

impressive to me she's got small spring

cups or something what is that yeah I

haven't seen these yet she's running

hydraulics but the way hey have you

seen to the way that like she'll just

make like the inner structure for the

thing nothing's mocked up there's no

door shutting on it but she's making the

inner structure for the roof and I'm

like where's she from I don't know I

don't I did you said she's from

Australia this is Queensland right

oh yeah Queensland yeah I haven't seen

that one with the fender on it

well it's like an Australian dog go

back this is it's a cat dude oh I did see

this actually yeah that popped up it's a

good move it's a great move metal

finishing it and yes there's a there's

one with the seat brackets if you can

scroll down to the seat brackets are

really impressive for me I liked the

way I like this that's not really a

style control arm oh you're right it

looks like that's cool she grassy

she she grabbed the location and then

she made the rest of it it's just a

nice stock it didn't that's cool that's

the furthest thing from a stock control

arm to see that that concept how she

approached it is it is interesting

right and that's the whole point of all

that is like well I wouldn't have gone

there to go on tubular yeah instantly

you know I mean or even even flat plate

you know yeah so you look at something

like this the seat bracket thing that

stuck with you yeah you're gonna find

something off right that you're gonna

then he's gonna be your build a

hundred percent yeah there's a

yeah see what I mean like it's weird how

how she's going about doing it but it

turns out it comes together

see where you got a little 3D

actually going on there too getting

close on those seat brackets no a little

further that's better be the most

amazing see you know what dude it's

gonna suck right there they are no left

yeah that like that one see them see

them they're they're not impressive but

they're deeply but if you see them they're

they're double-sided like they're she's

she's popped them out to make them look

almost factory like and then they come

together in the way they see how they

sit on the back the back firewall and

stuff good good fabricator yeah it's

impressive there's just everything she

shows us right there yeah pull up that

video her wheel and that seat panel

everything flows so nicely I just I love

it I love everything about is whatever

is in that bottle what makes Australian

sheet metal look that bright that's

Australian right silver that's all see

she metal bright there is something

about it it's am I right you can tell

all see sheet metal which I'm

surprised I didn't pick up on this is

there no humidity there what I don't

know what it's just the way they

finish their metal I think they I

think the key is you guys feels right

she's and what is that stuff it's a

little bit of Vegemite in us in a

Scotch right here you put a little bit

of Vegemite but anyway there they're

whatever but how she made him was cool

and how they go in is super cool I

thought it was nice hit that video her

wheel in that seat pan

she did the I'll find it in a second

where she does the roof skin mm-hmm

and it's bead rolled in like the just

some good tools the pattern that you

would do a panel paint roof but it's done

in step yeah it's cool little rider

panel paint it's pretty cool

we gotta have her on the podcast yeah

I want to know there's so much I want to

know so many questions I gotta let's

burn that roof skin I just think it's

you can barely see it there Jeremy

like you're saying though the point

is is that she's doing it you know I

mean like there's there's somebody out

there she's filming it she's doing it

like and it's it's very impressive her

her skill set I mean it's unbelievable

what she's doing and it's to a weird

scout stout or whatever it is I don't

even know what it is yeah nor do I care

I just work I've been watching what she

does for her her technique step it

even back from the fact that she's

documenting it the fact that because

it's being done the fact that it's

actually progressing through sure because

you've seen so many especially from the

mini truck you've seen so many guys

have done no I came from I came from

that it's not a shot okay it's not a

shot I came from I guess important

mini truck stuff I know that if the

fabrication or the like a project gets

started it's like this can be the

baddest-ass four-link never the four

link gets you know mocked up and it's

some awesome sheet metal you still

got to build the rest of the truck

right right front is gonna be done the

fact that she's progressing through I

mean she's going through you know when

she'll wipe her motor she's going

through cows she's building this entire

thing front to back and it's progressing

that in and of itself of just being at

the dedication of going we talk about

you know going to the gym we talk about

yeah you know going to work come just

repetition and sticking with it it's

one thing be like I'm gonna do it for

seven days straight okay I'm gonna do

it for 30 days straight you know for a

year like we were saying for two years

it was just the metal fabricator person

it's notes the person building the

stout like that's what she's building

we we both knew about it yeah just from

neither of us follower but yet it popped

up in her feet because that's what we're

we both knew what we're talking about it's

kind of cool that she's doing like you're

saying going through the entire thing

oil and whiskey followers are we're one

of the 265,000 people that follower

yeah all right guys she it's she it's

amazing though the fact of just

tenacity and staying with it right

that's what I'm saying we all know

about all know of it she's impressive

hmm that one got me off off topic

there some no it's fine you're going

deep so you on the on the start in the

shop right so you had the discussion

you're gonna stay in Texas you like the

the schools yeah it's difficult to

coming from I mean I move my my family

up here and my wife grew up in the same

town you know live next to her parents

and it's same place you never never

left right you can't be like oh we're

doing this is the greatest opportunity

and then after like three years but all

right guess what if that was fun let's go

back you know that's a difficult

conversation you kind of like all right

now what's the next phase right we've

done this what's the next phase so you

get some people you get some you know

at least enough jobs to like all right

we got we can start this thing what do

you say your niche is now as what's

your social media like you do some

amazing shit but broad like you know

it is weird like a ladders on you know

overlanders and I was a flatbed stuff it

but it's cool shit it's not it's not like

you just you're not just welled in a

broken bumper you're building cool shit

well that that one actually landed my

lap from a friend that just started a

shop and you know doesn't have a

fabricator yet and and so yeah there it

is so that actually I just saw that now

just got the finished product from

that of it being the whole truck was

like textured you know it's an off-road

vehicle the guy's a professional hunter

and so he's literally gonna have Bobcat

and Fox he said packed up in that little

you know that little crate in the back

there on that little toe behind thing

and then the ladder was just the thing

I did just to keep ground clearance and

he wanted a fixed ladder he said he

takes guys hunting there's all infrared

he's got a heads-up display that goes

in one corner he's got a varmint

call in the other corner and there's

like these chairs that sit in there

that are like a like a tripod you

set your you set your gun on it it

fully swivels all around so there's two

chairs on the top that you you perch up

there and and all the lights like a

bass boat correct exactly like a

bass boat so he sits up there and there's

red lights all around it like big light

bars but the red and so everything is

infrared you know everything is night

vision kind of set up so he goes hunting

at night with it and he doesn't he

does hunting competition so that came to

me from another shop and you know I

do a lot of stuff for other shops

actually that that maybe don't have a

you know a fabrication side to things

and and so there it was this one's

obviously hit hard with Josh just because

it's an H2 and it involves guns so this

is sure he noticed that one are you

respraying that in yellow will that

ultimately be yellow that's and I'm

chopping the top off it's gonna be a

convertible okay yeah yeah that's is

that for you Josh do what you haven't

you haven't this built you see the

platform right I apologize I was

I'm commenting on his comments to people

uh like that's cool yeah so I mean random

things show up yeah so like you say I do

all sorts of there's a there's a d100 in

the back there I just put a 51 hemi in

it that's been all completely remachined

and everything and just four linked it

took the stock chassis did a universal

four link on it a Mustang to front it's

like I'm I am not super niche where

niche where it's just sheet metal

fabrication which is my favorite thing

to do I really like that the most but

um you know if it pays the bills and I

enjoy doing it I'll say yes to it and do

it you know you prefer more full build

start to finish you like just doing the

core fabrication some cool components

what's your that's a I really enjoy

so that I here's where my ADD comes in

and and I like a quick in and out every

once in a while like this was a couple

weeks you know I mean turn and burn

turn and burn feels good it's nice

you did it quick I appreciate that too

because we were on a timeline I was

trying to get that thing wrapped up

yeah you know what you got a big

you got a big hunt coming so yeah but

but yeah man like I thought it I like

the turn and burn stuff but at the same

time I like a full build I like to have

my name on things unfortunately it

seems like a lot of mine don't get done

all the time you know what I mean like

you get the like the little lice the

little gas pocket right pocket right

there that's a build it a few years

ago it's a it's a C10 it's on a

roadster shop chassis it's it's got

everything that's cool in it it's

got a it's got a supercharged 383 fully

built struck like 700 horsepower 383

which is wild everything's aluminum so

all the all the like paneling instead of

being woods going to be brushed aluminum

the front the front bumper will be

brushed the wheels are brushed like the

the roll cage inside is brushed so

that's just a you know normal C10

build that one right there I did for

for a buddy that brings me a lot of

his cars and stuff and I did just

many tubs and not many tubs but I

did tubs in a and a that's on a

roadster shop as well and did you know

a doghouse is as we call him for the

back you know over the over the step

notch like the wheels on it I would

have I wouldn't have thought to use

I'm gonna pull a Josh like a Tony

Hinchcliffe type comment I would have

thought to use them but they look

fucking those are fucking ugly wheels

but they look cool on that show I'm

not saying there are they just so it

trucks been around that's it's been

around for the last few months

whatever a bunch of shows it's a

pro touring Texas right yes Eric yes

great one who brought me that great

folks down there they bought a good

bit of chassis from yes everything that

I get from them I have a actually have

a a Nova right now on a on a chassis

that's right yeah from them I have

done a done that on a chassis for a

bunch of cars a Chevelle forum on a

chassis so there's a bunch of things

I've done for him and that truck right

there when you're talking about the

wheels the first thing I said is you

get the center caps in it or what

and I guess I guess the center caps

are actually black they're in it

but okay that's like you say the

wheels that's the first thing I

noticed who was like where's the

center cap at but it's a race car

you pull the center caps out it's a

super cool overpressure pop center

caps out the customer super cool too

like he's he's a he's a military

guys it's a it's a really cool as a

vet it's a really cool cool build a

cool truck the way it turned out the

way they did the bed and patina did

all and stuff it's a it's a cool

build I'm like I said I'm always

still to be a part of it because a

lot of times my trucks don't get

there I'll build something they

end up sitting in the garage like

the the previous C10

everybody Matt built that truck and

it's super cool but he's got a lot

going on and he's got a he's

got a supercharged chivelle or maybe

in turbo no supercharged chivelle with

the carbon hood the carbon deck that

all the cool guy stuff you know it's

on bags and stuff he's got a an old

charger and stuff so I mean he's got

a lot of other things going on so

the C10 didn't get done you know just

yet it'll get there it's it's 90

percent done patina truck it's

cool he switched he switched the

front end to like the I guess it'd

be a 62 the big hog nose like the

big pig nose like 60 60 so he switched

I know it's not a little better hated

right 100% but I think he wanted to be

different he went yeah it was evoed and

had him all billet machine he's on all

the all the everything's billet dude the

old oil oil tank that's actually on my

Instagram the old oil bath style

air cleaner is a is actually just a

big billet big old machine big old

machine part steering wheel the wheels

the that the hog nose part the he's

had a bunch done if it's kind of it's a

ways back on Freeman but you know about

the the the wheels back to the wheels

you're talking about on the on the C10

some you're 100% right right there's

the C10 the left one yeah you can see

the cage I built in there if you look

to the rest of my air seal the bottom

right it took another cab and cut the

headliner out of like a steel steel

headliner out and covered up the rest

of my box so it looks like it's kind of

like a factory it's not looks good

important I cage looks good cage

looks nice yeah it's obviously not

gonna function a hundred percent with

that bend right there but it's a it's a

bolt-in cage and it's just a it's a

better than nothing aesthetics right and

if you go if you see to see how I put

the the vents in in the dash I kind of

tried to make them look factory and

patina if you go back a couple posts

maybe they might I might be able to see

it come down a little bit right

there one of those maybe there's a

better one of the of the actual

side vents the side vents turned out

pretty cool I guess maybe that was maybe

that was one of them I'm sorry but anyway

others under the hood so nothing fancy

he wanted no bead rolls no extras just

real simple clean because the bed was

gonna be all aluminum and and turn out

just kind of real simple clean he

wanted nothing nothing over the top

and and I mean the truck turned out

really cool so one day it'll get done

and it'll be a it'll be a really

cool build but that's kind of where

it's cool doing stuff for pro touring

because they really get it done they

take the car switch it over like a

lot of stuff a lot of through a lot of

stuff they are and they they do a lot

of really nice like survivors as you

call me I mean put in the put in the

you know patina car on a on a full

chassis and just making them run like

he has a he has a post where there's a

10 speed in there and it's just 8 speed

or 10 speed man it just sounds so good

so I mean it's cool to see that stuff

but I enjoyed this part of it this

was a long time ago actually this is

at my my initial shop in Denton I'm

over McKinney now but if you can

gotta see the one where I did the

side I wish you know we should have

maybe dude this is your social media so

like you tell me where it's at I keep

going sideways yeah keep going there's

one where I did keep going there well

well there's Richard yeah there's me

and Richard I went and did a little

thing so there's a there's a car I did

actually if you go down see the

suicide doors that's a brand new

Cadillac escalate V I did suicide

doors on is that's what she is for

big old centered auto lock hinge you

know it's a um what's the name of the

company I forget right now but uh that

was actually for Patrick Mahomes that's

his wife's car Oh P. Holmes P. Holmes

he's a Texas guy it's a pad I say what's

up yeah right you've never met him

no never met him nor will I but you

don't even know what he plays sports

probably he does soccer right

America American soccer where I was

going to go with on the brown on the

brown C-10 those wheel that wheel

choice 100% out of the norm there's

something about especially on on C-10s

and square bodies and you're doing a

air quotes pro touring build you know

you do something in handle there's I

I tried generally gravitate towards a

little bit more traditional you know

inspired but there's something about a

patina truck that can back it there's

a little bit of like just putting it

out there but like well you know fuck

around find out like I'm not trying to

hide like it's obvious that I'm not

afraid to like use this thing it's a

little different than like a fully

polished you know done pro touring

truck with bumpers tucked in nice

paint so I think you're like all right

well it should do it but like are you

going to then you find that and

you're like oh it looks like he's not

afraid to right it's it's got a

little bit a little toughness that's

also goes right in line with usability

you can jump in that thing take to the

grocery store if you want you don't I

mean yes the you have a $40,000 motor and

it you know a $40,000 chassis from from

Roadster shop or whatever and you know

$8,000 wheels but if you get a door

ding it's not the end of the world you

know I mean a little bit you know I

mean you can run it you did a great

job on this I'm gonna ask you was

did did Patrick have a have trouble

getting the backseat with the regular

operating doors I'm not quite sure

what's going on that never met him

never actually I think it's his

wife's the colors are of her her

soccer team that she has she has a

she owns a not an American soccer team

maybe it is an American I don't know

anyway a ball like a round a round ball

soccer team the black and white yeah

football yeah right it's soccer there's

soccer and there's football yeah well

that's it but yeah I know but you're on

this side of the pond right so in

America it's football and soccer that's

happening with me right now yeah I'm

still hung up on the fact you didn't

see my vents I it's so weird I'm you

got to tell me where they are where

they are I but I hey if you don't know

once again okay go down there's my 49

did that was on a road shop chassis you

guys built we're looking for vince right

yes we're looking for vince you know I

mean that was a plug you shot yeah

well he's told me to look for that I was

joking fuck it go to we need to do a

legend yeah go to that one

damn it that's not it go to the other

one all I can hear I already watched

this one four times right fuck it's

not that one either what about this I

don't know dude let's find that's

let's find these are vince I like those

vince I have them from my truck that's

not it nice son of ocean hey thanks man

appreciate that that's that YouTube in me

go go up to you're like a YouTube err

here flaming you don't want to get on

there and all right never mind guys you

know what there's my Instagram I have

more followers on my how about this

but yeah the first person to DM us a

picture of the side vince from your

social media gets a t-shirt here's what

I'll tell you a free t-shirt that sucks on

you that's up to you if you want I know

I'm going to appreciate it but good

looking out man appreciate there but

somebody's got somebody's got to find it

I believe it I just fucking I don't

know right there look at the 49 right

there that's on a road to shop chassis

and that truck turned out because I was

looking at those harems it's a one

off chassis yeah you guys did I guess

scan the bottom of the truck this is

for this is for my core right that's the

one for Michael yes that's a customer

from my court but I'm gonna tell you

something you guys left the motor in

the stock location yeah ish and I'd like

to talk to you about this okay talk

about it yeah go ahead I had the

fucking hell of a time excuse me

language putting a radiator and in a

fan it and an intercooler and a

heat exchanger whatever you want to

call it and a condenser in the

front so I ended up having to take I

got a wizard wizard cooling and moved

the the cooler off to the side remote

in front of the right front wheel

through ducting from the I ended up

getting a splitter on there I extended

the whole front end and and did a bunch

of stuff to get all that to come

together but could not find a radiator

condenser even a custom built one

that would fit in that narrow nose

because the motor was so far forward

where there's like a ton of room to

go back with it and this guy was

super adamant because he had a

roadster shop chassis this is a

testament to how much he loved your

chassis did not want me to cut it at

all but what I did do I did cut one

thing and if he's listening I'm sorry

and I didn't tell him actually this is

true I didn't tell him I you guys

even made a floor mount booster yeah I

got rid of that I did I did that and

put it under the dash sideways with

the one of those 90 degree you know

style yeah you could go back with

that but then you get it you get

into the floor box right so you sure

get a little while I think you need

to dress on these 35 40s because it's

it's so tight if you move it back

then guys are pissed off you had to

recess the firewall and you've got no

there was no fire I mean I did made a

fire wall obviously but but I mean

you're right there was a given to

then here's my here's my here's my

ls a defense in your defense

absolutely if you go if you go to the

if you go to the shoe store and buy

and buy a set of 10s and you know

you're a 12 and you try to shove it

in there you're right like you're

absolutely it's a if the you got a

you got a big shoe right you got a

big foot you got a big foot but

I guarantee you all we're building

it all we're building it I don't

probably move the motor back a little

bit and then yeah that's not about

making motor mounts for them and

stuff and trying but we were

to do it's always like Phil said

it's a 50-50 deal you've got 50% of the

guys are like yes that this thing I'm

not recessed in my name firewall and

and then the other guys are like

dude shove it back thing back I don't

care if it's in the back on an eight

inch thick core I want to put an

intercooler in the front of it and

once again I'm my dog and I'm just

saying you know it's a good point

to bring up to get it every once in

a while and it's something that you

don't know how to you can't standardize

it one way or the other because you're

wrong half could you imagine like yeah

if you had motor motor placement is so

much like a wheel entire fitment

specifically in the back because

you're like oh man you gave me like a

54 and a half inch rear end I got a

mini tub it right yeah but you get

like a fat lip and it looks good

right then you give a guy a 60 inch

rear end you're like dude I can't

get any fucking lip on this thing I'm

like yeah but you didn't have to

mini tub it you know yeah but I

want like wide-ass tires so like

there's this unfortunately in y'all's

defense really building fucking cars

yeah that that's part of the game

that the cab is so small I mean I can

I can touch the the passenger door

with my arm like this like it's such a

small cab that yeah man it is

it is six one-way half and doesn't

just yet you also know about one of

the international international 49

international picked about one of the

worst motors for it to wait for a

second right the throttle body

there throttle body and like the

standoff see how far the power

steering everything's like pushed

off yeah that throttle body I had to

I had to be super crafty about that

thing or the you know the intake

coming and turning really hard and

getting into the fender because I

like I said I ducted the airbox

into the off the splitter in the

front on one side made an airbox

behind the headlight and then the

other side was the was the cooler

it's a great it's a great point

to bring up because we've talked

about before it's it always rears

it's had the worst on Mopar guys

because it's always on uh like a

challenger and the guys wanting it like

three-inch rocker ride height and he

wants to run a hellcat you're talking

about motor height just motor mobile

physics and and motor placement right

and it's like man this you guys

place this motor like all the way

through the hood it's like well have

you sit the motor sit set the motor

on the ground next to the car

yeah just sit you sit it on the on

the oil pan next to the car tell me

where it's supposed to go the earth

place the most yeah it's yeah and

those are tough cars too because the

wiper motors on those are like that's

the like that's the stand that's the

constant you can't fuck with a wiper

motor on Mopar there's no other places

there is there's no other options like

then a factory ass wiper motor i mean

unless you want to go to great

lengths or just did you want to

engineer it or ditch it it is one

wiper motor and one wiper motor

switch like and they're like wired

bass ackwards and really it's a cluster

fuck i've worked on a lot of them

yeah that's that's the thing with like

you know kudos challengers chargers

the spring gear dudes need to get

after that like a better making a new

yeah it's weird it's weird that it's

i think it's a more difficult problem

than what we probably are giving it

for the location and the way it

interacts with the cowl it's not like a

quick oh yeah we'll flip it we'll throw

it in here it's always like a yeah

probably don't want to screw with that

i have to check it out

well yeah it's brought us to the time

of standard questions oh no standard

questions brought to you by h.r.e

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um

we like to we've found as of late

uh we've had guests come here

prepared unfortunately and i don't like

that i like to keep them guessing

um i'm not gonna lie prepared some some

of those might be standard uh get one

last one in yeah for sure after it

just down yeah fire yeah let's let's

finish it finish it out a little bit

so much guys thanks for having me man

now that i've got my standard questions i can

i can feel it ease the uh the answer

yeah yeah you never know what you're

gonna get out of this shot this one

well i do think that it's interesting

well we're gonna go we're gonna go to

car first heavy pour it all good

because you two specifically i think

what part of wisconsin did you get

your license in it in manascha it's

called the fox cities uh just south of

green bay north of oshkosh right by

the i know it okay it's good so i

that's why i know the car that's why

i went this way way you know the car

90 96 graduated 96 he graduated in 96

and i wanted to go car first because you

there's sometimes i have a little bit of

insight this one's going to be a unique

to you guys i feel with as many uh as

much as you you got some weird shit in

the midwest though there's not a lot of

i wouldn't call it a lot of trends

there's not it's just transportation

just things you did a lot of things

rotted to shit so you didn't have

you ever have a snowmobile

yes i actually had a great snowmobile

story want to hear it real quick i would

love to hear a snowmobile story i'm

learning so much about snowmobiles you

guys heard about uh have you ever heard

of um duck lake is that uh the duck

in uh forget the name of the lake uh

rat river okay so anyway there's a place

we've heard about the duck that's where

the duck is this big stadium seating

like restaurant that looks over the

in that the viper chairs guys talked

about the duck in i do not remember

i thought they did they're from

wisconsin as well so anyway my dad

has a uh old beat-up snowmobile but it's

like a dare i say a 700 it's like a 400

river it is but it's some crazy fast

snowmobile so we've always done it you

know i'd be on the back with my dad you

know be doing the rat river it's

literally a frozen over river with

reed sticking out and stuff and you're

kind of drifting around the corners and

hitting the snow banks and coming

through well one year my mom and dad

dropped me and my brother off and

they went ahead to the duck in drove

me and my brother we're just going to

run the rat river by ourselves and

him him on his snowmobile and

my dad's well we're cruising through

i'm getting overly confident i'm doing

really well i'm i'm naturally decent at

riding bikes and you know what i mean

riding dirt i've always rode

sure god three-wheelers and stuff back

in the day tv's and stuff and so um

i'm getting decent at i'm i'm can kind

of handle i've gotten old enough to

kind of handle it you know i'm not

three-wheelers in your life so you're

pretty fucking good i ran over my

own leg 400 times but but still so

anyway we get to the we get to the

duck in in the open lake and there's

a they plow a spot where the the

planes can land towards the the the

duck in so there's a snow bank on each

side of it

when my dumbass gets the idea to jump

that shit i'm gonna fucking jump the

runway dude and i will jump the whole

runway i'm gonna jump the whole

runway i'm gonna jump the sideways

from bank to bank i just fucking i just

hit it dude i cased the other side

i'm fucking i cased the other side

just fucking this snowmobile you

know i don't know if you remember

the fiberglass it opens up and

they don't roll good no i don't

know dude but i thought i'd go for

stupid enough stupid enough to go

not really hey all the wings were wide

the wings were wide it was too wide

it was it was about yes six feet

short six feet wider than i thought it

was

but anyway i fucking cased this bitch

and just wad up the snowmobile

and my dad and my mom are in there and

then like i said this duck in is this

this restaurant that stadium now hold

on here

let me start off i stand back up by

saying this is how i remember it right

so i'm telling the story after a

couple weeks but this is fucking

what happened but anyway

so i jumped this thing wad up my snow

with my dad said the fucking place

went wild dude they're like my house

whoa what and then he realized oh

shit that's my son that's my snowmobile

so i wad up a snowmobile that day

and and had to pay for it pretty

fucking i think i had to do some

fiberglass work or yeah that's what

i got my ass be let's be right i

got my ass whooped but but anyway

yeah man that was a good snowmobile

story so yes i i know snowmobile

okay

um you got something

i'm trying to look it up to see i know

what the car is but i'm having a hard

time oh

i'm going to make model i'm going super

bratt no no i'm going bratt

there's nobody in the history of the

world that owned a brat can i can help

own one i won't give a crazy no don't

have okay you can help you can help i've

already made my guess you can give

some pointers my dad was a race car

driver it's a car truck my my um it's

a car truck

shit how can i give you a clue

without telling me don't give us a

clue all right let the just go but you've

yes this is a question he's so far off

the fucking off the mark i know he's way

off fucking has a super way off uh it

was a wild card yeah purchased car or

hand me down uh first car so hold on

second i've got let me just say there's

a clue i've got i got a vehicle for

graduation but i was not 15 yet it's

going to be my graduation gift 500 bucks

would you graduate at 15 no it was

going to be he got it early i got it

early sorry if i didn't make the sense

there but um i fixed that up i'll say

that i fixed those up to sell to buy the

first truck that i drove to high school

so it was a truck that's he threw that

away sorry i told you the car it's a

midwest we know it's a truck it's just

a matter of what truck it is that was

loose lips i apologize i'll say the

first thing that came to mind with me

is the old body style dakota like the

s10 body square one dakota yeah square

dakota i had one of those that's a rare

that's a rare unit the convertible one

well yeah that i saw one the other day

that's not the convertible it's sick

you had to have you had to be a connoisseur

to have a convertible shelby square body

dakota we had a shit ton of marlboro

points yeah marlboro miles

square body dakota i could be i could

be off because there weren't a lot of

them in the midwest but something

tells me

yeah it's just you know what i know

this is well phil let's always go on

first uh late 80s early 90s buick

celebrity

holy shit it was truck no this is

before he got the truck oh phil there's

something there that uh that fucking

that that blew my mind getting goosebumps

actually phil you you you uh

hold on phil this is fucking odd and i

think you're creeping on me somehow

one way or another you've done some

research every episode somebody

somebody gets it this is fucked up

this that's not my first car but

that was the first car i drove

that was my mom's car it's like the

official car of greenway it was in what

color what color was it

either silver or marlboro dark blue

pewter dark blue it was pewter's gold

color like that

fuck you phil that's creepy dude

did you call my mom i did you know

nancy's number i did not call nance

all right every episode somebody gets

so a whisper that's not my first car

though that's a car i used to take

the you know let me always wait

hang on wasn't that right there and

pretty fucking much yeah that's a

big that's yeah mine was a Chevy

celebrity not a not a Buick that's a

beauty is that a century was the beauty

yeah sorry yeah so i hit us with the first

car so my first car that i got for 500

bucks was two two trucks and it was a

55 Chevy truck a GMC and a Chevy

i swapped the parts all around it i

hated the big tits of the GMC and the

GMC logo in the hood i wanted the 57v

dash so unfortunately that was more

rusty than the GMC so i swapped

together all those parts and

welded up rockers with the old

Lincoln stick welder you know made

that shit come together to sell to

buy a 67 Chevy long bed seat 10 that

my dad i got for Christmas my dad

my dad's old uh stock car motor so like

500 horsepower he did circle track

ratio like i was telling you

month c4 speed that me and my buddy put

in he tightened up his side when he

said he didn't have my

tightened up my side we were underneath

there getting eaten up by mosquitoes

because my dad had all the race car

stacked up race car tires stacked up

just fucking mosquito heaven

and uh broke the tabs off it

fortunately i was able to go back to

the wrecking yard that i got it

from telling that the tabs were

broken got another free one put that

in so month c4 speed the the shift

pattern was in reverse because i didn't

have the right linkage for it it's made

it come together so you know first was

backward it was you know opposite of

the way it's supposed to be but

uh linkage would fall off as i drove it

but it was slammed i made the roll pan

on a on a piece of i-beam i hammered

it over and made a roll pan they

just lapped over i put the license

plate over it welded it in and

shaved the door handles and left

the window crack so i can get in kind

of thing and have my but i put old

old i did all the interior white the

engine compartment white the motor was

like a machinery gray with the morose of

blue valve covers the anodized valve

covers morose you build a race truck

blue anodized you know well my dad was

a race car driver so yeah that's exactly

so i had it on old uh 15 inch center

lines the smoothies with the with the

spinners on it i remember a kid

stealing one from when i was in high

school a kid stole one i had to

kind of rough them up a little bit

yeah get it bad ass you had to eat

that i swear to god i did i beat

that ass yeah you don't take i

i bought i think as a package deal

i bought those stainless steel

stainless steel you know what covers

for your for your uh your coolant

hoses with the hose clamps in the

blue

flex dude what a bitch doing

so i did that on my my chimera

original dude i got those and the

spinners with the center caps all in

the same make cuts on your fingers jc

whitney cattle it was it's softer

than what an actual dude fill nice

dude rated hoses so you don't talk

much but when you do it's nice you

can't you can't get them on like

it's like a chinese finger dude chinese

finger trap and you've you're bleeding

at the end of it and and uh but boy did

that into part because it's so lackluster

when you get it's never what you want

well about a week later when they turn

gray and they're not silver anymore

they're not really stainless it's some

shitty ass

metal i wonder what the total sales

number is that's how bezos got started

someone's got a house on a hill

somewhere so many properties

shit ton of money off of that yeah

and then just that concept of the

hose clamp with the

they do yeah i did on everything oh

man yeah dude i had an everything i mean

it looked like shit when it was done

but it but i mean you work so hard when

you when you reach in pop that hood

yeah look at me dude yeah the fucking

dash 20 right like that's a that's a

fucking 400 dollar radiator hose but

anyway that was 20 bucks six i would

say my first truck even though the

55s were really my first truck um i

my 67 jevy truck long bed and i can't

find a picture of i do not i did

somewhere in a move somewhere i don't

have a picture of it so i can just

only imagine i had thunderbird i'd

Pontiac Thunderbird seats in it and not

Pontiac i'm sorry uh uh Ford Thunderbird

seats in it they were gray gray carpet

like i said the interior was all painted

white painted the the two the two the

the obviously the glove box yeah the two

hunks gray gray to match the the

block so everything matched it was

blue and gray inside but it was

primer gray the whole truck never

never painted it but cool truck

fucking fast fastest truck and i bet

i had a guy that was a Mustang

owner a 50 Mustang owner and he

won i was so pissed you know how you get

like most popular most successful most

most likely to succeed i was fucking

all in my senior year ready to get

best vehicle and some did with a 50

Mustang there's a best vehicle word

there was we didn't have that there was

i did and i didn't get it and i was

fucking i'm actually still pissed

today

let's talk about it we don't talk about

it we should you should fucking

talk about it you didn't have it at

your school went on we did nobody

gave a fuck at our school in the

midwest really i feel in the midwest

i so i built a work for like a

little over a year me and my dad

restored the 69 Camaro and it was like

we're thrashing and it was like getting

ready for a columbus debut or a sema

debut

because i was getting my license and on

the day i turned 16

i'm driving the 69 Camaro to school

yeah go driving this fucker to school

he also had a backpack super soaker so

it was way earlier that was yeah i know

it's set the stage obviously in your

head your kids were jealous dude in

your head you have this figure like

the joe aircraft the chicks are going to

just be

i didn't have one of those kids i didn't

have a g i didn't have a g i joe aircraft

he could have had one of these if he was

into g i joe he would add one i wasn't

a g i joe and i didn't fucking have one

i had a super soaker had a backpack

super soak

john york john york will tell you all

about it

he's one of those kids yeah all right

but uh is that his dad on a camaro

hey you know body shop

well body shop shop yeah but so

so you what color it's black and

white you're in school you're in school

when you turn 16 shop still owns it

yeah you saw it you saw it and it was

next to his truck oh shit that's what

you drove to high school it's come a

long way thanks then the way i talked

about my 67 Chevy truck it wasn't

that great i mean it was it's been

redone like three or four times okay

since you were you were in school

when you turn 16 like school was in

session

yes i left got my license i failed

my first time drove back to the

camaro and in your head you think

it's like people are gonna be out

there high-fiving chicks are going to be

like parton

yes of course they were no they weren't

gave a fuck 69 camaro

nobody had any clue it was like the

loud car that's the loud old car

and then i'd date like i'd like few

girlfriends that you know it was dating

these girls and they'd get in the car

and they'd like feet up on the dash

and did it would drive me yeah i would

get so pissed it's back nobody gave

a shit and that was just a old loud

smelly car so isn't that weird though

like same with me like i grew up

jay gusses doesn't like it no no jade

gusses and didn't give a fuck about it

didn't fuck jay gusses yeah nobody care

local local hollywood i mean not local

hero jay gusses is a easy character

local legend that's what i meant to say

somebody i've never met but i love the

stories about well that's funny because

i had a kid that had a fucking big

block nova that was a couple years

older than me his senior i was like

sophomore or something and he had an

orange you know whatever year six

70 nova you know what i mean whatever

orange he had money big block yeah well

he didn't actually i don't know how he

did it really i guess but anyway it was

fucking hey there's a there's a joke of

me and me and jeremy love novus right

ex body novus we we love the

ex body nova we talk about all the time

no hold on fill my my naivety here

is it ex body the square one the more

no the round the first round not the

desirable one oh it's second gen novus

here goes fill again it's technically

third gen is it really

well there was yeah oh yeah it is i

apologize i know so much about you're

right you're right you know the first

and second kind of one and a half is

too bad bitch bad bad ass fill you

know the the nova that nobody builds

say the things say the things about

the nova that you say to us i just

did yeah nobody builds those

what you how many bad ass 68 to 70

78 nova they all look the same billie

utley's gonna find you at the next show

come on with it come on with it

missy's hit

so we tell every time we see fill says

that anybody that's into those cars has

not a pot to piss in or when to throw

it out of we say that you know i say

they're in the trailer park and

there's a motor hanging from it

now we're definitely and they're

definitely not gonna like all of a sudden

hit but they were trying to like set the

trend right and fill's fucking talking

this and not so we talk about them all

the time he says we've never sell we

haven't sold near as many chances we

should have because none of those guys

have any money we talked about it all

time thousand to one and sixty nine

camaro first gen camaro's versus

novus because they're hard to find it

just hasn't found its stride yet it's

it might it might yeah it's going to

run out of everything i like to build

i love i'm cool i like the square ones

that they might be like a truck like

the real obviously they're like a

yeah those are the ones that everybody

likes sure later ones

yeah what the fuck is it about that car

that you don't like the proportions

like the way it looks it's a to me it's

like a mini chivelle or a we're a

smaller chivelle or something they're

kind of the same thing

they have the same type headlight

buckets they got the same roof line

they got it's got a fat ass

i like it i think they're good

it's made for a big ass tire

it is in the front down that real low

wheel opening that doesn't look good in

the back in relation to the height of

the roof in the quarter it looks sick

but because it's like it it's like it's

like tug it's like pre tucking when you

look at it from the back it's like a

hot chick bent over with a short skirt

you love it kind of just yeah it's

always feel like when up high and you

can kind of see when they're all the

good stuff

ends up when they're slammed they

look like the front ends on the

ground the ass is up that's what i

think of always like yeah like ass up

yeah he said all the good stuff

bits and pieces i want

ellie if you don't put that as the

fucking teaser of this episode that's

the that's absolutely the best

you can see all the good stuff am i

wrong no it's

phil thinks you're wrong that was why he

doesn't like those bits and pieces he

doesn't like the good stuff

is that why you don't like him phil

no no it's not he's gonna come around

all right all right i don't think

y'all need to build one

next up shut your mouth favorite wait

next up i'm i'm going to the bathroom

i'm taking a quick break really you have

to you have to right now i want to like

we're gonna be actively engaged in the

remainder go ahead down that it won't

take but just a second the small ones

don't take that long

all right next up i'll just phil go to

beer i've been drinking beer for a while

i didn't know the tall boys too

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I guess it's shut up

listen

actually take a second to listen I I'm

very talkative

I will find myself quickly wanting to say

something back to what you said

sometimes not even listen to what you

said it's a bad habit

whether that's 80d or whatever that

is or just

I don't know

like as a young kid my dad's friend

race car friend called me yakky

so I'm always a talker so I think uh it

is really good

to just sit back and listen sometimes I

think that's great advice I think you

can learn a lot that way

um

I think it's good to talk like we talked

a little bit earlier

you know don't be the guy that just

sits back and nods nods at the

customer

don't be the guy that goes up and

fucking tells him every single mod

so you scare him away

but there's a happy medium there

and I think listening is a good one

um

I have to constantly tell myself to

just shut the fuck up sometimes you

know what I mean like hey chill out

I mean

you two going at it I was able to

just sit back and listen I really

thought about that because

like you said sometimes people will

preemptively think about what their

answer is to your standard questions

and that was one of them and I

thought about it hard actually

because I mean there's a ton of

there's a ton of people that

you know have taught me how to

take well for instance like I was

talking about different things

like that

that I could have used those as an

example is something that was

taught advice hey man don't do

this or do that

but I think listen is a really good

one to sit back and listen

sometimes I mean honestly the shut

up thing

Phil it probably hits hard with

Phil I wish you would have brought

that out like an hour ago an hour and

a half ago people say that all the

time how many people tell us like to

Phil just does not stop talking

stop what's on the podcast I was

thinking in the flips I think all he

was thinking about was saying shut up

during that yeah I think Phil and I

both made eye contact that was the

look of the like Christ I think

are they going to stop or am I going to

have to say something

and he just bit his tongue and he

that's going to be I started by

saying you shouldn't tell the story

and the fact that the two of you are

questioning should we tell the story

I know but further fucking drives

that's what makes us want to do it

more there's yeah there's a part of

me that still it's like mom telling

me that no I have to do it tell

the story let's hear the story but

I think that's what you should have

done I feel like I delivered it

in a like you know a way that

it was okay it it maybe it shouldn't

have been told but it also I didn't

lean into it that hard and

tomorrow morning knowing you yes you

were about yes right two to a three

yeah I didn't turn it up you're still a

twelve yeah we didn't do any of the

sounds of the noise that we were

doing in the real I wouldn't be

surprised we told it really good

I wouldn't be surprised if this

isn't like seven thirty tomorrow

morning an email from Phil to

elia a by the way added out that whole

second it's probably time no this day

there's probably times there's about

forty forty forty seven minutes to an

hour and twenty just kind of no that

stays there's a natural transition

somewhere in there you can make it work

somebody out there it will resonate

with the laugh right

it's not an educational podcast part

of it is yes I learned a lot today

yeah I did yeah there's some

education in it a little bit there

you go yeah

in that first vehicle that you were

driving that truck we're gonna we're

gonna say it's a long bad c-10

what is the go-to I like this one song

or cd at that time yep yeah while

you're driving it what do you what do

you what when you're turning the

corner and you roll the windows down

and you know somebody might hear what's

the thing that you go to I have a

confession you ready yeah

I don't know that didn't have a stereo

no didn't have a stereo none of my

vehicles do my Toyota didn't it had a

fake sub box in the back never got to

the point where okay had a had an amp in

head unit and stuff the 67 never got

there

hammerhead no radio

um I'm an engine noise kind of guy

like that's a great answer first

it's a first if I'm a daily driver guy

then sure then I've got something in it

and honestly the first subs I've ever

put in anything was my wife's car just

recently

she has a Chevrolet Silverado and I we

put you know under the backseat you

know the the the box and right there in

an amp and uh it make me thunk she

likes to listen to music you what's

she listening to if she's out and

about now right now the red clay

something or other red clay strays

red cool she is she just moved up

so many not pushing so hard to go to

one of those concerts and I oh it's

fine but you've been yeah it's fine

okay all right so here's my argument

best concert of my life shut the fuck

up we didn't just I'm sitting in the

past we didn't just go to a red clay

strays concert you can't just say that

we went to the red clay strays at the

Ryman in Nashville which I mean

honestly they've my wife they're

they're writing books and movies about

it right now it's when we talked

earlier about editing shit out this

is something that my wife is going to

have my ass okay thanks appreciate

it anyway it's a blackmail but I

listen to the cd or I lie fucking

not a cd holy fuck spotify sure

apple music whatever it is and I'm just

like it's so mellow go to the concert

is it not just like chill like everybody

is like dude it's awesome you ever

seen Elvis in person johnny

if I fucking hold him I know I haven't

know me neither but we it was like we

did it is fucking serious yes

he's great beautiful and it's a

super masculine manly boy he's got

an awesome voice shit I fucking

love the music I love the soul of

it but did you not have chills from

head to toe the whole time here in my

arm stand really it is Johnny Cash

Elvis and Waylon Jennings all mixed into

one reincarnated all right hey Catherine

I'm gonna take you to one of those

lights you have to and the rest of the

band doesn't look like they belong with

him no but they're great they're awesome

yeah but dude I'm telling you that

fucking music talent like we haven't

seen in generations unreal really I

mean the best it jump on YouTube and

start like digging into some of the

like the random stuff like the

stuff he's covered okay he just did a

a waylon lonesome ornery and mean

great waylon Jennings hard song to cover

because waylon owns it and he did it

with dirks Bentley no way right so

dirks Bentley is like you know he's

your fucking like boy band that's

but it would have been still an amazing

people like him and that's fine like

he's known for being a really good

country music singer right so he opens

it up and he's singing and then he

looks over and he kind of nods to

Brandon is the lead singer for Red

Place Trace first name first name

basic stuff buddy mind like totally he's

probably as we get out of here and be

like yo be I'll give you a shout out

like yo text him I want to take a

train right to the city we will but

my phones I keep my phone down there

while we're doing the podcast he

hands over dude I've never seen

somebody get dunked on so hard from

when he it comes on and it's like

dude it's like his soul that's like he

opens his fucking mouth and the sound

that comes out it's unbelievable

fucking awesome feeling and you see

the look in dirks Bentley's eyes of

just getting absolutely just destroyed

like he knows that this guy has a

fucking musical talent awesome and just

annihilates him all right so I'll

appreciate the performance in the

in the feeling when you're there oh

dude like you need to go to a concert

you want to be fucking pumped up and

have you will be I just felt like

every time I listen to music in the

car it's like what do you typically

listen to but what's your genre I

love Led Zeppelin classic rock I love

you know all that type of music I'm

I listen to just about anything so this

this question is a weird one for me if

there's a favorite song kind of thing

it's it's I love tool I love descendants

from back in the day will punk stuff I

love okay you know I'm I'm all over the

board kind of it's just if it's a song

and I like it whether it's a cover

whether it's a

tosh sultana just chill music you

know something random like I love

whatever so it's not like it has to be

but if I had to listen to one thing

it would probably be

probably be classic rock like Led Zeppelin

or Pink Floyd or fucking you know Ozzie

or something something old school like

that yeah I mean if you want to he's got

a song called on my knees okay and it

it's a little more Elvis see all right

it's probably one of my favorite

so but it's higher energy cool and

that's what I that's what I'm saying

like concert don't you want higher

energy I like nobody else like me

okay that's a good one I can't name

us but any honestly I could just put

it on

and add listen to every single one I'm

really I would I would my wife is

gonna fucking love this

dude you got there's it's a it's an

experience six he's playing at in

Chicago at the Salt Shed if you feel

like what's the one that when they're

one in New Browns either I think we

missed that I thought it was October

maybe it is whose whose place was

that

Phil it was remember we went to that

dude's I'm a road tour red clay

stairs are playing there remember the

dude in Texas it was like on the

middle of nowhere and he had like a

concert venue kind of there was

yeah shit tons of neon signs in the

big ass

ZZ tops bar place where they did the

uh he said he's a documentary yet

yeah he uh Vastine's yeah Vastine

yeah Brian Vastine other like couple

small shops like yeah in that place

I think that's I think that's right

Google it's I don't know when they're

playing but they're playing there

really which is that's right by me

which is a crazy small venue at this

point

they was on the way to Hills Place

yeah between New Mexico and Hills

we thought are we talking Texas

yes yeah new brownfills

yeah yeah no it's not new brownfills

that's down fucking by San Antonio

you just google it google it right now

so we can because I mean this is gonna

my wife would know my wife's gonna impact

their career you know they're I mean

they're actually gonna impact my life

seven people yeah right we're gonna

we're gonna if there's three or four

like tickets remaining we'll sell those

out no doubt in my mind

you're gonna gonna bury the needle

yes indeed

Omington Raleigh st augustine charlotte

richman chicago chicago

Cincinnati Missouri Kansas Colorado

Colorado Missouri nirvana texas Irvine

texas Irvings yeah

the billion that's that's one my wife's

aware of what is that September 25th

more events love it cooks that's it

oh that's not love it yeah

yeah

how far love it's way south of you yeah

love it's yeah it's closer than chicago

though a little bit dude but yes it only

takes two hours to get here that's a

cool place yeah you that cooks garage

deal well we would do Irving Irving is

close to us is it

but Irving's in a in a in a sold out

theater right

no this is uh we should go we should

go to that

omichail there let's do let's do Lubbock

texas i'd be fucking dope my wife would

be so pumped who do we know that's

in around love it jason hill

we'll stay at jay jason's got to spread

and we're staying at jason hill's place

we'll play a little golf yes

a text and see if he answers look it's

just all it's all it's all general

admin and a stage that's it yeah it's

just a wide open yeah kind of that's

that's fun that's actually the most

fun to to to see stuff like that just

makes them angle so what's the date

what's the date i just ask you what's the

date

tater i don't think you understand my

wife right now september 26 september

26 that's my daughter's birthday great

that's a great celebration i'll take a

second year old you love that i think

in laws are in town

oh they're in austin too on the 28th

booty amphitheater i've never been to

austin actually i haven't been down

there yet i need to go see

don't they come up to detroit

yeah we got a book one of these

fuck that'd be fun red rocks that'd be

awesome i'd like y'all to meet my wife

very top red rocks would be fun

red rocks is just so it's so big

hey i'm sure they'll do an amazing job

i heard people are taking i've never

realized red rocks is so large people

are taking ubers from the bottom of it

up to the top for real yeah dude like

i guess it's some wild that's big

it's huge it's just it's too big of

a thing for me i'd like to watch it

yeah i like to watch it on youtube

oh fair enough but uh i like a smaller

yeah we'll see you in texas in september

huh we're there the basic that cooks

garage would be really 26 just intimate

small well and we we've been there

before and we we need to find out who

the dude is because there's got to be

a hook up there ed will know call ed

yeah he's a hot rod he's got a big

car collection uh last but not least

let's go i'm ready hold on wait

there's two mmm wait you guys have

talked about this prior there's a oh

shit here we go oh yeah we'll end it with

that that's a new sick yeah that's a new

standard question feel we're gonna end it

with that you feel that's a quick one

that's an easy one uh law enforcement

yep most memorable law enforcement

interaction story

oh no which one uh street bike one or

truck one street bikes you're probably

doing like two yeah yeah fair enough

fair enough right right right okay

bringing from the cops you're fucking

right totally lame stupid yeah i mean

it's cool yeah it was bullshit you a

super cool bro you a boost or zx gsx

r1000 but not a booster 1000 i know

dog all right it's cool yeah am i a

boost a guy do i look like an abu i just

was i'm trying to try to all right

yeah put you on r1 though i can put you

on r1 i'm on gsr 1000 you got another

one no i just i can picture you gsxr

Suzuki i i'd love to have a rc8 ktm rc

it's like my dream bike i think that'd

be a cool ass bike tone but never

never i don't think it's got enough

ass though i never rode one i like

that though yeah okay um more powerful

in your honda shadow yeah but not as

reliable

all right i got one where i didn't

interact feel careful on the motorcycle

jabs all right stones glass houses

knees

broken ribs like you went down you went

down huh no in a parking lot no we'll

just we'll move forward we need to wrap

this shit uh all right um i'll tell you

i'll tell you silly one i had a so i

built a toy to pick up back in the day

for a middle mini truck a little a

little independent rear suspension tube

chassis little truck i just recently

bought it back actually after all

these years i sold it to a guy

that uh ended up calling me back

20 some years later and said like hey

do you want to buy this thing back

absolutely um i've just got it back

recently so that's what's fresh in my

mind as far as a interaction with the

police but technically no interaction

i'm getting ready to go out i'm going to

take the mini truck we're going either

to a cal truck jam or some show or i

forget what i was doing with the truck

but it was there normally i kept it up

drove my other truck in the meantime

i walk out to my truck as i'm walking

down the driveway california super

steep driveway i'm i'm up in the

trees like walking down towards the

street i have a parked on the street

and i realized there's a cop behind

my truck oh shit i back up i don't

want to i don't want to interact

right so it's not really an

interaction or an experience with a

cop but i watched him write a ticket

he's walking up to the front he's all

shit he realizes there's there's it's

touching the ground that's the first

one uh the ticket was for touching road

surface the next one was touching road

service touching road surface the next

one with your face right in the

fucking ticket like that

so the second one was stupid i want

to sell right second one was uh

no reflectors in the taillights

because i had molded a peep big huge

the whole the whole tailgate was a

piece of lexan which which i had a

bunch of like but this was back in the

day

i had a bunch of 1157s down there which is

wild oh because i didn't have you know

what 1157s are

it's a fucking bowl yeah that thing's

fucking ain't you gotta the thing's

about the kitchen on fire yes i would

hit them i would hit the brakes i would

hit the brakes and everything would go

brrrr

you know right so anyway i had like

20 1157s in there because there's no

LEDs at the time i mean there was

but you had to literally solder them

together and wear them together

so anyway uh that and a bunch of

other things

i watched him walk over to go put it

underneath the windshield wiper well

there was no windshield wipers i shared

the windshield wipers that was another

one that was another one so i sort of

got to watch him walk back and forth

through the car like three times right

more down it's like fuck dude he tried

stiff sticking it underneath the

windshield wipers and he walked around

he's like he kind of like shoved in

the belt molding

dude why don't you roll that up tight

yeah dude i just i was up at this

point i was upstairs a while at this

at this point i was up there fucking

laughing i got the ticket i never

even paid it i never did anything

with it nothing ever happened to it as

far as i know

because i've registered the vehicle

after um and obviously the have you

gotten pulled over in california since

then of course okay i mean you're good

then living in yeah right yeah exactly

you would know benches old little

things they'll have a come back and

bite you have a crazy way of coming

back in southern california you don't

not get pulled over it's the main

source of revenue i think that motor

cops dude bite cops they fucking

suck dude so i got i got a ticket i did

i had my s10 my body dropped s10 i was

driving in the fast lane here's my

second one to this sorry i don't mean to

double yeah get it but i'm in the fast

and i just moved to california i'm a

maybe a year in i buy a truck that's

supposed to be this reliable little

four cylinder zuzu motor in an s10 and

i body drop the fucking thing and

put billets on it like a dummy but i

didn't have i saw all but i guess i

sheet metal screwed together and i had

a fucking welder but um cut the

coils and then i had to put it back

up so i put those spacers in the fucking

coils because i cut them too much and so

anyway i'm driving down the freeway in

the fast lane in a body drop s10 and

everyone else is is right in line with

me a cop comes up in a traffic break

they'll do a traffic break in southern

california where the cop comes up

carpool lane and starts cutting across

with his lights on start going back

and forth and back and forth which

then makes a traffic break which all

the other cars go ahead up ahead

there's something on the road a cop

runs out and grabs something or

there's an accident or whatever the

reason is that they're doing a traffic

break well after he's done as we're all

doing like 20 miles an hour turns his

lights off but he's halfway between the

carpool lane and the fast lane i'm in

the fast lane well he decides to pull

in to the to the carpool lane

everyone else on the in the other

slow lane up to me starts going well

i i start heading off to and like

taking off just like i would like

everyone else

well he pulls in pulls in behind me

and pulls me over and told me i was

not obeying i was failure to yield

to emergency vehicle

well i went to traffic school and it was

like an 800 dollar ticket

i'm making fucking i don't know 300 bucks

a week or some shit i'm making like 12

bucks not even i'm making 750 an hour

or some shit like that at the body shop

and spend even and you know i'm i'm

in i'm in the class and i've got my

hand raised everybody raised their hand

and then okay everyone from zero to

100 lower hand i was the last person

i'm the youngest person in there and

then also the last person with my

hand up at the most expensive ticket

for fucking some dumb bullshit that

i think he just pulled me over to

pull me over because i had a lower truck

but you know part of the game

part of the course not mini truck fans

nah dude not a mini truck fan but guess

what it's all worth it you know when

you're driving a mini truck and everyone

else is driving stock shit you know

what i'm saying

fucking small fucking small like that

bro yeah small price to pay to be a

mini trucker dude

so anyway the mini truck the the

little toyota i don't know if you've

ever seen it and if you're a mini

truck guy

silver with the uh you got the

paint on the hood right yeah that

was actually a green and silver truck

before it was a black and silver

truck i i painted it on thursday to

sell it on sunday and uh if you go to

yeah there it is so i got that yeah

click on that remember we're talking

about those choppy wheels the ugliest

wheels you've ever seen in all your

life are called kmc elfs i sold i sold

quite a few of those look at that

fucking truck that thing makes me so

happy so a lot of those in with

adapters on hunting for no

suburban's what because they chopped

mm well those things fucking chop

and i love this shit out of that

truck it's so nice to like me

what's the motor and so 2020 re has an

l uh it has a trd cam in it so it it's

just uh it's just a it's a feel

injected motor 22 re a little four

cylinder it they fucking actually rock

man they're good little motors little

rim shop story back in the day selling

rims

we would take them off the rack right

if we're looking at buying them take

them off the rack the wheels off the

rack right selling rims right because

that's what we were doing so we

weren't selling just wheels we're

selling rims rams you'd put the

you'd put the wheel savers yeah the

plastic rim savers yeah that would go

on from the boxes you set it up you'd

put one of those on each on the front

and back right and we'd roll it across

the showroom floor where they would

stand back and they got to see the

chop you want to see the light that

it picks up watch this wheel now this

is ugly can you serious hey jeremy

this is can you say this is not a lie

phil right you'd say this is jeremy

this is ugly wheel yes

uh terrible looking wheel but watch it

look at look at that chop right there

brother dude okay that's got that's got

now that i know what shop is i would

say that's got some shell is tail lights

so the the tail lights used to go all

the way across the back they used to be

a uh like the tribal a tribal would go

down see the tribal that's on the hood

that used to run all the way down the

side i did this paint job just to

turn around and sell it because

everybody knew my truck i actually

won mini truck of the year with that

truck in 2003 you know what wheel

chop more than any other wheel ever

kmc elba nope assassins

ooh good call a saunty assassins saunty's

they so those are 97 chord headlights

brother in a toyota phil you're not

feeling it dude you hate it you hate it

so much i miss the whole mini truck

did you timely how do you me and phil

both did have did you really just didn't

hit oh that's just up in our there

was nothing really see now that's i it's

funny because in wisconsin i grew up

with a uh i had a i had a just a

lowered s10 blazer on american racing

17 inch american racing wheels and many

trucks were we had a little bit of that

a little bit of that i like that s10

extremes yeah the extremes are cool

i think we were just in a like had a

different kind of vibe like we we went

to like the the chevy vet fest right

and like because you're down with a

hot rod our body shop our body car

our muscle car but that was the

mean if you're building a 69 camaro

yeah yeah that was just like what was

in for i mean that was where did you

grew up up right around here right in

the north shore area and

yeah timely from timely uh

uh oof shout out i guess because of uh

who's coming this he's probably already

been on at the time of this airing

okay story you told me on the way here

he knew who else had those same ugly

wheels yeah i don't is he coming down

here he's already done that he's done

he's done the podcast it just hasn't

aired yet i know shit so i'm walking

down main street i just ordered these

wheels i thought i was cool as

shit ordering these wheels right like

they were the shit back then anyway

i'm walking down main street huntington

beach and i see the top of a blue

something or other from a distance and

when you see the when you see the

upper drip rail lower than like a

camera you're like what the f***

so i i continue i sprint down there

check it out it's a body drop to coma

and it's mike finnigan's truck and

i'm i'm so f***ing pissed because i

just ordered these wheels like on

friday it's saturday night in or saturday

day and i'm down street down down main

street huntington and there he just

can't he just moved from new york and

there's new york plates on it and it's

hammered and i'm i was so pissed off

but anyway finnigan and i've been

we've been friends for a long time now

since since then because of our

mini truck in connection obviously and

he showed up on the wheels he did

show he had him before me and his

truck was sick as s*** but uh yeah

but i have it back and i don't i don't

think that he has his truck but

we'll have to have a conversation i'm

sure i could see finnigan rolling out

some kind of nasty mini truck i would i

would love that he would

oh yeah that's probably a man he's such a

it's such a badass dude he's he's so

awesome we had like

kind of sort of cross passes him here

and there but like all these years i've

never met him

oh okay because he's so talkative and

correct right exactly there would

probably been a hundred opportunities

if only josh was there to bridge the gap

yeah we're up now finnigan

but that's finnigan not finnigan i don't

know what yeah but yeah

josh could have bridged the gap but then

it was like yeah let's just keep

like because that's gonna turn into a

whole conversation yeah we gotta talk

and but really cool yeah i mean it's

the best yeah one of the nicest guys

yeah yeah one of the nicest guys

he's in he's already done it he

said he's in a cool s*** is he here

no he did it zoom we're doing round two

in person we're gonna do some

should we bring up the drag boat s***

the matrix on the drag boat yeah

yeah that was f***ing freaky

what's super freaky

finnigan's a big drag boater right he's

dude yeah he is

so jere brings up the fact that growing

up as i don't know if you remember the

and they walked away videos

yeah dude yeah

he's like everything i know about a

drag boat video is the boat stopping

and the guy just going straight over

the front

yeah

so finnigan brings it up

talk about something else

drag what happened because you don't

see you don't get the scale of speed in

the video correct you just all and you

don't hear it you just see the guy all

of a sudden roll out over the bow

it's slowly almost it's kind of weird

yeah it falls out

so we're talking about drag boats a

little bit more talking about blarney

island which is on this little lake

up here where they do drag boat racing

every thursday every thursday every

thursday

so he brings up something oh yeah we

got drag boating at bar and island

finnigan just go oh blarney i got

to be there that's like bucket list

item yeah i don't

we finished the podcast

that was a wednesday we did the

part or tuesday we did the podcast

i'm just looking at facebook and

there's a local like police

reporter blotter facebook page

drag boat racing blarney island

guy goes over the front of the boat

oh shit you guys talk to you do

existence yeah

fuck and i think that like hours

later we tend to do that we can

control he was fine great good good

yeah fitting it was talking about how

they got like a parachute

and like the article it's like

everything worked the parachute came

out stopped him he walked away just

fine but had to go to dude there's

they got they got f16 capsules in

those things and stuff too like some

of them are really like the top fuel

boats yeah if you that shit's crazy

to me i mean have you ever gone

80 miles an hour 50 miles an hour on

the fucking water yeah it's crazy

yeah to do 100 plus on the on the

waters in those going like this

like yeah we're sitting on top of it

as we were talking to him because doing

like like we taught we did like 160

in a in a customer's body ours in a

cat he's got a an mtf 160 but you're

down in 48 right it's a 48 cat and

you're down in it and it's you know the

windshields up and it feels like it

feels like 40 because it just feels

safe and it feels really connected

160s crazy yeah oh yeah i always

saw that right because it's fast i've

been around both growing up on

v-bottom boats and like same thing like

60 miles an hour you're white and you

could die at any minute yeah

absolutely but that feels like you know

really fucking safe but then 60 in like

a like a small like sheet of plywood

is what they're in like a laminated

sheet of plywood and some fiberglass

in one of those i mean dude they're

doing 100 what do you say like 130

and you're sitting on it's like a

surfboard you're sitting on top of it

that is nuts is insane it's absolutely

insane to me that's like seven trauma

i was traumatized i'm like michigan one

time as a kid and i'm out i'm out on

boats dude really i'm out on i'll

surf maybe but then there's sharks so

then i find myself lifting my feet

i didn't mean like

they're in long toes

these sharks

dangling words dude hold on they're

good because they can't grip a baseball

bat they can't what else did you

ask me you fucking creep

we start Jesus Christ that's the

call circle that's that's a circle

back into the final question and the

last last but not least let me

see your toes this is the first can i

see your toes

this is the first installment of what

will now become a standard

oh here we go across all this is the

first time first time your hands are

carrying you're setting the

presence i don't think that i'm not

good at this we've never done it

before this is first answer and a

wrong answer

oh fuck you feel that the pressure is

now even worse no it's pretty like the

writing's on the wall

all right still own or burt reynolds

and why

how long let me see how long your arm

let me see how long your arm is all right

cool

part's pretty badass but uh still own i

think i always feel like still own was

fake you know what i mean like he always

had he always put that on well he was

an actor

right and he sure reynolds was not

yeah but he was also badass in real

life

because he played football before an

actor in real life

yes still on the soft cork porn in

real life

it was filmed so there's a supposed

but yeah it's real life

so still own why

hi i'm not saying still own okay i think

i'm saying burt

fucking a i think burt's my jam i'm

sorry guys i apologize as much as more

manly

as much as i wanted to be on that side

of the table most of the fucking

podcast

i was

you were fucking tough today i know

the joshes are over here but fucking

did dude today was rough dude i'm not

going to lie kind of side with you

you do quite a bit you know i'm

going to lie

what now like burt on there's i'm

sorry to disappoint you guys that's

fully laid out it's all about

opinions but you know everybody's

talking in the band it's pretty dope

you know everyone has their time to be

wrong and this is yours this is my time

it's exciting so i mean we're gonna have

a counter

we really need to put up a counter

right now we need the x one to zero

how about this i'm not a huge although

although his wife and rocky was in one

of my favorite or in my favorite

movie of all time tell you sure

which is rad

yes which is the movie rad

yes my favorite movie the movie i've

watched the most of all i actually

got to meet

my my my childhood hero

crew jones bill allen

okay um did hell track race the track

actually in real life which was super

fucking cool dropped on the drop down

the the wall that is pretty cool yeah

it was quite the experience honestly

but um i have to go with

birds birds and it's do that mustache

dude come on dude like is it the

mustache or smoking the band it's

smoking the band i like let me ask

you this then have you seen the

movie cobra

cobra's dope

cobra's dope but guess what

have you that's your okay

no hold on hold on bro that's your

silver bullet hey no that's just

that's just gonna be a blood

bath the rest of the season you ready

for this shit have you watched the

movie sure have you seen it but have

you watched it have you watched when

he jumps that motherfucker

and all the hubcaps fly off and he

slams against the other fucking car

and then the next scene is fucking

perfectly fine it's just it's like a

comedy movie

take that back

well have you seen smoking the band

it yeah have you seen where he picks

up the hot chick and i don't dislike

like i'm not i know i get it i know

you don't i got one i got one quick

question

is it the tracksuit is it the tracksuit

no it's not that's right that's

that just adds to the whole allure

the coontosh yeah what is it

yeah what is it that's it it's a

rocky what is it it's rocky it's

Rambo it's mary and kibretti and

cobra it's over the top over the

top over the top over the top of

the great movie he's got a weight

machine

it does it literally come over

ah hey have you seen gator you seen gator

no watch gator have you seen the movie

wizard yes a little kid yeah have you

ever seen the tie-in with that where he

sells his truck on over the top to

to to spanky and then spanky's in the

movie wizard and he saves the kid from

from getting like crashed into or

whatever it is he blocks the street

wizards with the california

movie where they're going to california

yes to play the nintendo when super mar

brothers three came out right great

fucking great fucking movie super sad

but he sells his truck to spanky the

hawkinson's the hawkinson's truck the

hawkinson's truck is in is in wizard

he's spanky's in wizard shit check that

out one time i gotta check that i so

there's a little that's a little i've

got one question to end us out right

and we're we're gonna keep doing

this for the rest there's a lot

there's a lot there's all kinds but

i've pretend just for a second yeah

that these actors and these movies never

existed

right just pretend for a second what do

you mean

so so still own and reynolds oh they

never existed none of these movies that

they did existed

but we still do car show stuff just

just follow with me okay with me i'm

getting you in a mindset so we still

do car shows just like we do you're

at a car show yeah and there is the

transam from smoking to bandit yeah and

there is the mercury from cobra yeah

and you're walking through which one

would you walk up and look at or like

well let's see both we've got a bone

fucking stock transam down okay off the

factory floor okay just some random

anybody don't forget about the whip

in ten of them literally anybody could

have bought that that would be the

it doesn't matter about it's not

about creation today that would be like

think you're missing on both of them

that'd be like a v6 come who like oh

dude look at that v6 come out of ho

right

mm-hmm which was not fairly standard

horsepower fairly standard equipment

back then josh i might have your back

a little bit on this one verse you're

like oh look at that dude that mother

fucker chopped a 50 fuck did he make

it look good but hold on every

fucking murky costume he did

bondo bucket you just fill all those

scenes no no i said he's forget that

the cars then the movie doesn't

exist this is just a car that is

sitting there the movie doesn't exist

it hasn't made it cool it's just that

bad hood scoop and that everything else

bad mark your car's not lowered at

stock hide pretty much like if you

watch the movie it's fucking ready to

jump something that's a horrible car

bondo it's not a great car yeah okay

you got moon disks on it you're

right you would appreciate all

original what you're what you're

what he doesn't we're watching it i

would be looking at the cars what

years this that we're looking at the

last week okay last week then i'd go to

the fiber take car transit rocky

magnum pi ferrari verse hawking sun's

truck hey put it in the back hey you

would load it in the back and just

fucking nobody would ever see it again

that was tom sellick holy shit i fucked

that up that was tom sellick i was

wondering where the which where you

were going with that i just went

with it that's how forgettable

burt reynolds's yeah same guy both

happy guys that's how

for you know that's just another guy

with a fucking mustache so you're

gonna hang you're gonna in front of

everybody that's listening and watching

you're gonna i'll go on the record and

say that you're picking the mercury

right now you're picking the mercury

that the movie's there to exist no

you're not you got a reputation right

no i'm not picking the i'm picking

the farm fresh fucking but i i put

the lamborghini jalpa in well this

would you well we're talking about cars

that still own drove sure i think rocky

three rocky three he's fucking driving

that it that's a bad that wasn't it

wasn't a hero car it doesn't he doesn't

need a hero car he doesn't need a car

to make him that's the thing i think

you've made my point no i'm in the

question right now that car made

burt reynolds take that fucking car

out burt reynolds and shit oh watch

your time hey whoa what the fuck whoa

he's still at like 117 years old he

was still hanging on to that car

still owns still kicking dude he's

rocking out all kinds of when's the

last time you've seen still own in

wranglers dude tight ass fucking but

hugger right he doesn't need to do

because he's evolving because he's in

track suits he's in track suits and

fucking he's evolving his career

fucking you know what he's not he's

not getting taller he might be

evolving

he's not getting taller doesn't that

mike herman it doesn't matter what

doesn't matter that's a shit argument

no the one question i bully that's a

bully i separated everything else out

and i just put it down to the cars and

you're picking the trans am there

you don't have to regardless of anything

i doesn't mean it doesn't mean that's

bird ran it doesn't mean that when

this is a fucking question for the

take for the guest happy birthday

following robot go ahead the trans am

go ahead this is a question for the

guest or is this pretty sweet you to

argue in anybody anybody can answer

yeah i mean the happy birthday poly

robot wins in that argument but that's

not available

so

still own getting into the like what is

that 89 lamborghini gelpa

nobody knows what a gelpa is we should

a valid you should you ought to you

ought to you ought to you should

fucking know what it is i'll fucking

check it out after a hollow creed

just got fucking killed right by

oven drago

to devastating god it is that devastating

you're such a bummer is that he gets in

there revs that fucker up

after his wife's like there's no fucking

way you're going to fight this guy

he has a great part of the movie no

easy way out on the radio

dude it's a great scene from the

movie first

i got a fucking antenna that goes

like this

all right in the middle of my car

that i bought a stock car that my

antenna goes like this running from

cops that's the daddy we go

music

you can't just pick that song if you're

going to pick scene we got picked

scene verse scene

but the question what that's fine

we're going to this is going to

continue you're going to have some time

to think about this is ongoing right

now

the guest picked

burt so it's burt it's one it's burt

one one to zero

so sly zero where's the fucker ticker

we need to we need to document that

and the tree the ta the ta is one

to zero on the mark right now too

because that's a thing

okay i'll say the t as a tough one

hold on it's not one you can't argue

that hold on it's not is it one does

you i wanted to see how hard he was

gonna go is it one of you two making

the vote no it's yes yes guess okay

well because he voted for the fucking

ta as well

yeah the ta wins every it's a that's

an it's an

but he's a rough car next episode

he fucking drives the shit out yeah

next episode he can craft a

plausible reality around a rambo

something to a thing

and if you just piece first piece

sometimes sometimes sly's gonna win

well i just figured out what i'm but in

that instance right home

in that in that instance then the

trans am wins which goes to burt

all i'm saying is that

stillone doesn't need the vehicle

dude him and himself he only needs a

fucking knife and he needs a toothpick

dude he needs a toothpick

no way that's all it was in cobra

in cobra it was a fucking pair of aviators

and a fucking tooth all burt

gloves all

tough guy with the holes we're gonna

end it we're gonna end the episode on

this statement right here

all burt needed was a mustache

because he proved that with several

photo shoots of just him and his

mustache

hmm all right so he didn't need

anything else we're gonna follow

it's stillone ever bear it

yes he did

dude he had a he was a soft he was

in porn yeah dude yeah that's not a

win he was doing that to make me he

wasn't doing that because he was

he did it he did it okay but that's

that doesn't go as a win call do it do it

because he couldn't act he didn't need

that it he didn't need that

like here's what i want the next

next podcast i want to see a side by

side

mary and kibretti character because

we're going by car okay we don't care

about cars that's fine characters

versus characters the reality is that

both the cars suck right okay

none turned in character for character

and george tag on the front of it

i want you to take

stillone and cobra with the toothpick

and the fucking aviators and the

tough guy gloves next to just a guy

goes to pretty key

burt reynolds with moustache like i

here's how the mustache well hold on

you listed like three things burt reynolds

with it what about his tight wranglers

bro he can wear the ring if you're

gonna bring if you're gonna bring

kibretti in with a leather jacket and

a toothpick then i get burt with

snowman

who take burt with whatever you were

burt with snowman beats everybody

burt and a mustache and a hat and a

cowboy hat and fucking tight wranglers

and a red shirt put it up there

it's frog i mean come on that's a

nickname there's a fucking nickname

frog it wasn't his what's i don't know who

it was i don't even lie

yeah yeah that's his name dude no it's not

look at that little guy

you know what you're making me hate him

i feel like dude i feel like i'm

fucking treading water over here all by

myself

that's because he's not a fucking guy

he's quiet he feels quiet

jesus christ

this is the let's put it let's put it

out there

god sorry we need to get uh we're

gonna this is gonna

we're gonna take this to the end of

the season

this is a hot topic i think we gotta

rank it this is a hot take do you

think this is universally okay

soundtrack cars had better songs

yeah i'd go body count wait what are we

talking about

that's one category he's still owned

another look at his fucking wife

dude

he doesn't need a body count it's

gorgeous

beautiful beautiful beautiful woman we're

talking fictional or real so our

forget that anybody's listen you're

gonna take one beautiful woman

up against a bunch of beautiful women

and somehow one wins

dude they're both celebrities

wait now we're into real life we're not

just the fucking characters no rody

there's hundreds of celebrities isn't he

divorced who

fucking your guy yeah and then he

keep bounce back like

fuck i feel like i feel like i'm losing

but i'm not even i'm not giving up

whose idea was this

of the next hour i'll talk about it

no i think you need to go on a training

montage and come back strong you gotta

come back you gotta come back with

some content i'm going to cyberia

who i'm gonna fucking just train

fucking fight vlad

yeah i'm gonna train and you gotta get

knocked down a little bit to come back

hey i'm working i've got notes i've got

notes i'm ready okay yeah i'll get

sides of beef i mean that's at the

tail end that'll be at the tail end of

my career okay but

rocky what's the what's your favorite

rocky hold on you need to dress like

that next podcast i will if i can

uh oh i could if i could look like

burt oh yeah i'm pretty you go to

any treks that you could find that i'll

dress like burt but nobody can do

it's brad you know when your bird

all you can do is put that pushbroom on

because you don't have a dick you don't

have a chiseled facial structure like

that you don't have a fucking jawline

like a great god

dude damn like chiseled in fucking stone

i feel like this is going a little

homoerotic it's getting a little

good it's getting a little good

it's getting a little good

fucking and here's and here's the

post that the shit we were talking

about pre and post here's your only

fans homoerotic this is the yeah

this is honestly there's a portion of

this that's like a build-up because i

know there's

some like far-fetched thought that

maybe stalone is gonna like this is

gonna catch his his eye or his ear

he's not like maybe like you know what

i hope he doesn't do this

yeah you know what carry wants to build

he wants to build that part he wants

to build the ta he wants to build a

firebird that's

there's a fucking transam i mean if

something's gonna get him that that

would be it that's a pretty good

impression okay we'll car would he

want to build dude i don't know i

mean i feel like we would do like

a restamod cuntush you know no i would

be sick that would be his point in time

that's an eevee oh he's gonna be doing

some type of silvarado eevee if burr if

burr hey here if if the heavens would

grace us and bring burr back he'd build

another clone of the same god damn

car don't talk shit on a dead man

dude come on not what farm to build

josh burr the same motherfucking car

you know it dude you know it you're

right he would fuck you're right

i'm sorry about that question up take

that scratch it

fucking cut it yeah but you're right

he would because that's his identity

you're right fucks don't switch me to

the other side dude i'm not going to be

a flip flopper still and we all have

wins and losses there's been a lot of

not this is a win this is a win josh

this is why it's such an interesting

topic it's a hot topic it's a healthy

debate there's a lot of yeah because

it's you know it is a lot of give and

take i will i will say that i want to

go back and do my research i'll

fucking i'll text you guys i'll

call key back in it's more it's more

complex than what somebody would think

on the surface we were i was very

surface obviously i'm not either of them

so there is no clear cut it gets i mean

obviously it's a cut for burr but if you

want to get into the discussion there's

a lot of wins and losses on both sides

sure there's things that burr did that i

wasn't like i will ask about though when

i saw the fucking murk jump and

shit and smash into shit it was

cool as shit but you look back on it

now that car's a piece what else was

buried in yeah the car side smoking

the bandit it was like the cannonball

run yeah gator was an amazing movie

everybody hey what movie was that where

the coontosh fucking skipped across the

lake

it's cannonball run was it speed was

the cannonball run speed zone six back

six oh hey that's my fucking one of my

favorite movies if you're gonna ask

that question my wife brought that up

because i watched it all great movie

that reminds me of bb the kid with

Jonathan ghoulsby's number one favorite

by far that fucking nothing even

comes close

uh this is going to be a good one

because there's lots of stuff to bring

out uh i feel like it's about these

things like you old fuckers yeah i don't

know that fuck you phil that was the first

one that was once again i wonder if i

wonder if it hits with everybody a

minute like people without a rp cards

no dude come on phil you wear it well

i mean you rocky four rocky four rocky

five 38 to 40 fuck you phil i mean

thank you phil honestly tough fucking

call that's not even it's not even

close i'm one of the rare like rock

to five the majority of the movie is

not good oh no shit end fight scene

the street fight is one of the best

it's one of the best and a best quote

what was that again i'm sorry tommy gun was

a joke it tommy gun was a bitch a joke

the way he put him in the place tommy

time way he what a traitor they should

have stopped it for i missed it what we

know he's talking about he wants to

know rocky maybe after five five

but yeah rocky five's for like a true

a true fan like if you can hang with

you gotta support you know you gotta

sport for through the beginning of the

movie i'm not that deep i don't know i

only know is i know the big fucking

russian dude i love i guess that i was

gonna end this but um here we are

we're in rambo yet work i know that's

that's save that for the rest of the

season i keep that in my backpack uh

that's when you guys like that's pretty

hard to argue i think that's like

throw mama from the tree that's like

boost to pass that's a boost to pass

button i think that the story that's

the gnost yeah oh right oh right first

blood too soon yeah i think that the

story don't hit the gnost too soon bro

the story of uh Sylvester Stallone's

tenacity and him getting rocky picked

up

but he sold his dog it was it took one

hunt yeah and you gotta get him back

pretty pretty princess i know but i think

that to hold on here you have a pretty

pretty princess dog yeah i got i got

yeah i raised show dogs it's not a big

deal yes it is what kind of dog uh

french bulldogs frenchie that's right

that's right it's that's different i

thought we were talking like some

fucking they're foreign fighting

bulldogs it's like it's a frenchie

pretty hardcore thing they're pretty

pretty princess yeah yeah they're

from France they're cute

uh pretty badass hey you guys are

weird as fuck you know that

uh 100 times to sell this to sell the

movie that's a lot that's how many times

he pitched it yeah he pitched rocky the

the story that he pitched it 100 over

100 times and he kept on it he got 100

nose that's just fuck it's a great

story it's a great story it's a

tenacity um i would i would be

interested to know how many times

that uh burt had to sell a movie

not a one i've got ass in those

fucking b rated movies did burt

oh did burt like the movie i would uh

if you weren't comparing yourself to

fucking saloon you would think that

those are great movies dude

don't hate on those fucking movies

you're just fighting what was i'd be

curious to know how cannonball

run performed in its heyday i think a

lot would you i'm no honestly this is

a question oh here we go i mean we've

got the we've got the internet and

there's nobody listening in comparison

in comparison to what your flight

just a couple hours away in general

like was that was that a hit well

boys another one or what since we're

still hey might as well yeah talking

about our old brothers we're gonna pay

the dm yeah we're doing a light one or

are we doing a yeah all right

right okay so you hit me pretty hard i

did hit you i apologize yeah i would

just do a light one

figure dream uh joshie in

all right

can i'm not gonna be able to navigate

for no hair

that'd be good achieved a moderate

box office success grossing over

160 million worldwide okay

became a classic despite receiving

mostly negative reviews from critics

what year was this there's this total now

81 cannonball run why don't you just

don't type you know 100 million what

number it is but type in uh rocky

gross revenue rocky best rocky movie

gross revenue have you guys stopped

filming in top stop recording

fucking hours and it's still good

everybody stopped listening that was

still recording i think sorry guys

i'm no Joe roby 160 160 million that's

less than 1.7 billion is what i got

is that more than uh so rocky for 300

millions more right that is more by

almost exactly twice yeah it was also

it was also how many smoking the

bandits did they make it's 15 years

after that how many smoking the

bandits did they make well with

bird or toad bird three two two they

didn't want to do more afterwards

they moved on to a bunch of other stuff

and how did those movies do

oh we're comparing his hope the original

rocky in we can't go through the rest of

the season's worth of ammo in one the

original rocky in 1976 was 225 million

well in 76 it's five years earlier and

600 000 more what have you said is how

much turn off the internet versus

turn off the internet yeah the number

you're gonna keep digging yourself

deeper and deeper no i know you just

asked a question that you as far as

cannonball run versus rocky rocky

absolutely gross more money that's a

loss for burt there

what a lot of money but yeah but but

true actors that do passion projects

and select that generally they don't

gross as well they're not they're not

mass appeal type of stuff

an actual a natural car movie an

actual car related movie not just a

i mean that's i mean honestly that's

it that was something that burt wanted

me to ask you a question yeah it's

a passion project the burt reynolds

buy a coontosh like as a personal car

no he had a fleet of t a state

exactly sorry josh yeah i'll bet your

bird if you want to know what i can get

some data i'll bet your burt reynolds

had like a two-wheel drive

fucking silverado 1500 hey burt had a

collection there was a car guy was he

really yeah i'm i i don't mean he

really did like it was about yeah

ill of the dead i don't dislike bird i

just like it's the one better

obviously look at the fucking picture you

found

i won't so you're gonna just straight up

i'm gonna ask ai yeah what's it's uh

hold on do a fucking google search who's

better do a do a a fucking

burt versus slice the loan

rocky now we do a rocky are we doing

slice alone who's better

it's better subjective what it is

analysis just go cut down to the yeah

cut down to the work you forgot about

deliverance nobody ever talks about

deliverance is one of the absolutely

it's in the top ten of cinematic

masterpieces of all time strictly for

breaking the ankles no off putting

that's different movie that's misery

misery that's that's a tough movie i am

off on my burt reynolds uh you never

watched uh deliverance i've never

have that's a movie

is that the banjo the original longest

yard

that's a good holy shit scroll down to

the yeah right here's the loan it's a

that's the loans of it just doesn't have

a lot there people are he's got rocky

and rambo

honestly

if you think about the loan oh it's

too it's two guys

oh jeremy it's two characters

stop the scroll to the two that have

not a lot of dialogue stop

real limited dialogue

scroll down i'm i'm scrolling it's

there's just nothing else left yeah that's

it

that's the end of the sorry that's ai

burt wins

hey you guys you know what the sad part

is

josh you don't have to ask this question

again

you know fucking no one's listening

well you don't have to ask this

question again

we have four minutes left before we

break the record of all time longest

podcast

i'm fucking sorry i'm gonna read i'm

gonna read the analysis

just as it's not once it's edited

burt reynolds was celebrated for

his natural charm

comedic timing and ability to blend

action with humor

particularly evident in films like

smoking the bandit

he also delivered acclaimed dramatic

performances in films such as

deliverance and boogie nights

the latter earning him his only academy

award nomination

that'll probably be interesting to

note it

for later on in

the analyst and analysis the academy

award nomination he held the top

spot as the world's number one movie

actor for five consecutive years

78 to 82

sylvester stalone is widely recognized

for his portrayal of tough determined

characters most notably

rocky balboa and john rambo

which solidified his status as an

action icon

salon not only started in these

films

starred in these films but also wrote

many of them

demonstrating his creative versatility

is one of only two actors to have

started a number one box office film

across six consecutive decades

well

he garnered three academy award

nominations

i wish i wouldn't have brought that

up earlier

that's interesting that they said that

including one for his writing of the

original rocky screenplay

but that's the thing about academy

awards is

yeah is is in

is it like mother's

this is like mother's children back

they don't just give those out to

anybody

yes they do

yes they actually do dude

that that shit's rigged

that's interesting

i think you need to look that up

like chat gpt

because the next question would be then

so who's number one

yeah don't do it

and that's for next podcast

yeah there you go

save something for next podcast

no chat gpt is saved for the

for the end

in case it's a tie

this is we we're going to make our

arguments

but we're going to take the tally

of the guests

some here on out

we're going to need a like a

like a road shop score

yeah ellie is going to put up a

scoreboard that we can put on

what we're going to do

we're going to create a new

backdrop

just for this segment

we're gonna have to have

you pick the

you what you think is the best

picture of sly

if you think that's it

that's fine

that was a teaser

that's just a yeah

i would i would agree

i would find something better

did you give him a heads up

that you were

that you had a picture of

like did he have a rebuttal

did he no

we he he he wanted to have a

little got a little extra sly

it's a good picture

i slide that one in there

it's ah

this has been

an absolute blast

yeah it's been fun man

honestly i can't tell you i was so nervous

i can't tell you how much i was so nervous

but i honestly this is a

fucking blast you guys

you guys make it so easy

you guys this is some of the most

fun that we have had

literally in three years

this is a really really good time

fun fucking hang honestly

i really appreciate it man

i can't tell you how much you guys

this is fucking

from seeing the shop

to being up here

like when i walked in

it's so impressive

i brought a fucking

lame bottle of whiskey for y'all

when you have

every bottle of whiskey ever made

there's no such thing as a lame

bottle i didn't want to show up

empty-handed so

honestly guys

thank you so much

i really appreciate it

thanks for asking me

all the questions you did

and digging into my personal stuff

and and really get to know me

honestly

this is fucking awesome

dude if you're in texas

if you're anywhere

and you need some fab

lolo metalsmith

on instagram

freeman fabrication

yeah man

absolutely amazing time

i appreciate it

thanks dude

we'll see you again next week

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