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July 13th, 2026 | GM Energy’s Aseem Kapur talks bidirectional charging; Auto industry confidence index

July 13th, 2026 | GM Energy’s Aseem Kapur talks bidirectional charging; Auto industry confidence index

Automotive News Daily Drive Jul 13, 2026 17 min
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About this episode

Shipment and margin headlines set the stage, including “Auto industry confidence strengthened across all four sectors” and Volkswagen’s push to “cut back on product complexity to lift operating margins.” GM Energy’s Aseem Kapur then pivots to bidirectional charging: “Grid demand today is unprecedented,” and GM Energy is building “bidirectional charging and a sustainable battery loop.” The discussion connects vehicle-to-home backup, grid congestion relief, public charging partnerships, and how used EV batteries can transition to second-life grid and data-center uses.

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Company

Stalantis

"Today on the show, Stalantis' global shipments grew in the second quarter and was largely fueled by North America."

This is the automaker the host is talking about—Stellantis. They’re a big company that sells cars worldwide, and the episode is discussing how many cars they shipped and where that growth happened.

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operating margins

"Auto industry confidence strengthened across all four sectors and Volkswagen Group cuts back on product complexity to lift operating margins."

Operating margin is a measure of how profitable a company is from its main business. Higher operating margin usually means the company is spending less (or earning more) for each dollar of sales.

Company

Volkswagen Group

"Auto industry confidence strengthened across all four sectors and Volkswagen Group cuts back on product complexity to lift operating margins."

Volkswagen Group is the big company that owns several car brands. In this segment, they’re described as simplifying their product lineup to make more money.

Person

Asim Kapoor

"Plus, Chief Revenue Officer at GM Energy, Asim Kapoor, talks about the future of bi-directional charging."

Asim Kapoor is the GM Energy executive who’s interviewed in this episode. He talks about the future of electric-car charging and how EVs may be used for more than just driving.

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inventory concerns

"Stalantis' North America sales grew just 5.7 percent below the shipment growth which [53.8s] raised inventory concerns."

Inventory concerns means there’s a worry that dealerships or the company might have more cars than they can sell soon. That can lead to discounts or slower sales.

Car

Ram 1500 pickup

"The growth was due to new or refreshed products such as the Ram 1500 pickup with the reintroduced Hemi V8 engine."

The Ram 1500 is a popular full-size pickup. The host is saying it’s getting back a Hemi V8 engine, which is a big deal for buyers who want stronger, traditional V8 power.

Car

Dodge Ram

"... was due to new or refreshed products such as the Ram 1500 pickup with the reintroduced Hemi V8 engine."

The Dodge Ram is a line of pickup trucks, and the Ram 1500 is the most common model. A “Hemi V8” is a bigger engine option that can provide more power for tasks like towing and highway driving. The podcast is mentioning that this truck was updated with that engine again.

Term

Hemi V8 engine

"The growth was due to new or refreshed products such as the Ram 1500 pickup with the reintroduced Hemi V8 engine."

A Hemi V8 is a type of V8 engine design. The “Hemi” name comes from the shape of the combustion chamber inside the engine, and it’s often associated with strong power.

Car

Dodge Charger

"The ramp-up in deliveries of the new generation Jeep Cherokee and Dodge Charger models also played a part."

The Dodge Charger is a well-known Dodge performance car. The host is saying the newer generation is being delivered in larger numbers, helping sales.

Car

Jeep Cherokee

"The ramp-up in deliveries of the new generation Jeep Cherokee and Dodge Charger models also played a part."

The Jeep Cherokee is an SUV model from Jeep. The host is saying they’re starting to deliver the newer generation in higher numbers, which can boost sales.

Term

auto industry confidence index

"All four sectors of the automotive news auto industry confidence index are optimistic about [88.6s] the next six months."

This is a survey that gauges how confident people in the auto business feel about the near future. In this episode, it’s used to summarize sentiment across different parts of the industry.

Term

trade tensions

"Concerns over trade tensions and affordability are still weighing heavily though regulatory "

Trade tensions are disagreements between countries that can make it harder or more expensive to move goods across borders. For cars, that can affect costs and prices.

Term

product complexity

"And Volkswagen Group plans to cut product complexity by 75 percent and its global model [123.2s] lineup by as much as 50 percent by 2030. [127.3s] The move comes as CEO Oliver Bloom intensifies efforts to restore profitability."

Product complexity means how many different versions of vehicles and options a company has to manage. Fewer versions can make it cheaper and easier to build and support cars.

Person

Oliver Bloom

"The move comes as CEO Oliver Bloom intensifies efforts to restore profitability. [133.6s] By reducing product complexity, Bloom hopes to lower cost and lift operating margins back [139.9s] toward VW's long-term target of 8 to 10 percent."

Oliver Bloom is the CEO mentioned here. The host says he’s pushing changes at Volkswagen to make the company more profitable.

Company

GM Energy

"Grid demand today is unprecedented and today we're looking at how GM Energy is responding. [161.7s] The GM subsidiary is building bidirectional charging and a sustainable battery loop that [167.5s] expands battery capabilities."

GM Energy is a GM company that helps EV drivers charge their cars. They also work on smarter charging ideas that connect the car to the electric grid.

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grid demand

"Grid demand today is unprecedented and today we're looking at how GM Energy is responding. [161.7s] The GM subsidiary is building bidirectional charging and a sustainable battery loop that"

Grid demand is how much electricity the electric system needs. When lots of EVs charge, that demand can rise and change the timing of when power is needed.

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sustainable battery loop

"The GM subsidiary is building bidirectional charging and a sustainable battery loop that [167.5s] expands battery capabilities."

A sustainable battery loop is the idea of using batteries more than once—either by reusing them in other roles or recycling them so materials can come back into new batteries. It’s meant to be better for the environment and supply chain.

Term

public charging

"For public charging, we have a series of partnerships across the country with the Pilot Flying J, EVGo, ChargePoint."

Public charging is charging your EV at stations that are open to the public. It’s different from plugging in at home because you rely on where the stations are and whether they’re working when you arrive.

Brand

Charge Point

"For public charging, we have a series of partnerships across the country with the Pilot Flying J, EVGo, ChargePoint."

ChargePoint is a company that provides public EV charging stations. They’re included here because they help expand where drivers can charge.

Brand

Pilot Flying J

"For public charging, we have a series of partnerships across the country with the Pilot Flying J, EVGo, ChargePoint."

Pilot Flying J is a big chain of travel stops in the U.S. They’re mentioned here because they help host EV chargers in public places.

Brand

EVGO

"For public charging, we have a series of partnerships across the country with the Pilot Flying J, EVGo, ChargePoint."

EVgo is a company that runs public EV charging stations. The host is listing it as one of the charging partners helping more people access chargers.

Term

bidirectional charging

"Vehicle to grid and bi-directional charging have sort of been background conversations in the EV world for several years now."

Most EV charging only moves electricity one way: from the charger into the car. Bi-directional charging lets the car also send electricity back out—like a backup battery for your home or the power grid.

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vehicle to grid

"Yeah, let's talk more about that really, the EV connection to the grid. Vehicle to grid and bi-directional charging have sort of been background conversations in the EV world for several years now."

Vehicle to grid means your EV can talk to the electric grid and share electricity back when needed. Think of it as your car helping the power system, not just being charged by it.

Concept

rising energy demand

"So I think the way I think about consumer value and overall the value for the technologies in the context of rising energy demand."

Rising energy demand just means people and businesses are using more electricity over time. The idea is that if demand keeps growing, the power system needs better ways to deliver electricity reliably.

Concept

electrification

"And we're seeing that as a result of data center, expansion, electrification, either for the transportation sector or building sector."

Electrification means switching to electricity for things that used to run on other fuels. In this discussion, it’s why EVs and electric buildings can increase how much power the grid must supply.

Term

utilities

"[398.9s] And more importantly, we've designed and engineered these products to be safe and reliable. [404.6s] And now we're working with the utilities to partner with them on how they can call on these assets. [410.9s] So for us, it's all about consumer convenience."

Utilities are the electric companies that deliver power to your home. They’re working with EV systems so the grid can get help when demand is high or conditions are changing.

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blackout

"[419.7s] Is demand in certain areas or among certain groups of consumers? [425.1s] I know that some regions are more prone to blackouts than others. [428.7s] And maybe some consumers are more interested in testing technology than others."

A blackout is when the power goes out for an area. They’re saying some regions are more likely to experience that, which makes backup power options more appealing.

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grid congestion

"[439.5s] I think what's really driving the need for the technology. [443.1s] One is emerging grid demand, which like you said, will likely emerge in areas that have more grid congestion. [449.8s] So typically areas which are seeing unprecedented demand and utilities in those areas"

Grid congestion means the power lines and system are getting “jammed” and can’t send enough electricity to certain areas. When that happens, utilities may need extra help beyond just building more infrastructure.

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flexible resources

"[449.8s] So typically areas which are seeing unprecedented demand and utilities in those areas [454.6s] can't meet that demand through just pure infrastructure expansion. [458.0s] So they're looking for ways where they can bring flexible resources"

Flexible resources are things that can change how they use or provide electricity depending on what the grid needs. EVs can help by supplying power when demand is high or supply is tight.

Term

vehicle to home

"such as vehicle to home or vehicle to grid to bear."

Vehicle to home means your electric car can act like a backup power source for your house. If the power goes out, the car’s battery can run some of your home’s electricity needs.

Concept

aging infrastructure

"The second is aging infrastructure. So on average, the US grid is typically around 40 to 50 years old"

Aging infrastructure means the power grid equipment is old. Older equipment is more likely to fail, which can lead to more outages—so people look for backup power.

Concept

resilience from climate change

"And then lastly, I think it's just resilience from climate change or generally around how weather impacts certain areas more disproportionately than others."

Resilience from climate change means being prepared for extreme weather that can knock out power. The host is saying EV backup power is part of how people can stay powered during events like storms or fires.

Term

energy independence

"And what we've seen in our early experience is that there's high correlation between customers who value energy independence."

Energy independence means relying less on the utility grid by making and storing your own energy. Here, it’s why people with solar also want ways to store that energy, including using an EV.

Term

solar energy

"So customers who typically are investing in solar energy are also looking for options to store that energy"

Solar energy is electricity made from sunlight, usually using panels on your property. People use it so they can have power even when the grid is unreliable—if they also have a way to store it.

Term

home energy management system

"store that energy and they invest in our power bank product or they also expand that with our home energy management system with the EVs."

A home energy management system is a control setup that helps your home decide how to use electricity. It can coordinate solar, batteries, and EV charging so you get the most useful power, especially during outages.

Term

power bank product

"they invest in our power bank product or they also expand that with our home energy management system with the EVs."

Here, a power bank product means a home battery that stores electricity. Instead of using solar power immediately, you can save it and use it later, like when the grid goes down.

Term

bi-directional systems

"in the event of a multi-day power outage, let's say residential, how are you testing these bi-directional systems to really understand how they compare to what someone would typically use a gasoline generator?"

Bi-directional charging means the EV charger can do more than just charge the car. It can also send power out from the car’s battery to your home or other systems.

Term

gasoline generator

"how are you testing these bi-directional systems to really understand how they compare to what someone would typically use a gasoline generator?"

A gasoline generator is a machine that makes electricity by burning gasoline. The question is whether an EV backup power setup can handle outages as well as that kind of generator.

Term

kilowatt hours

"Typically, it ranges anywhere from 17.5 kilowatt hours all the way up to 34.5 kilowatt hours, which is pretty common and comparable with other standard offerings in the market. In addition, we offer the customers to be able to pair that system with the EV..."

Kilowatt-hours are a way to measure how much energy a battery can store. More kWh usually means you can use it for a longer time.

Term

stationary system

"if they have a large truck. So a stationary system can immediately have flexible capacity. That can be 10x or 20x times depending on the overall system configuration. So as a starting point, depending on the size of the battery on the EV..."

A stationary system is a fixed energy storage setup installed at a home or facility, separate from the EV. Because it’s not limited by the car’s daily driving needs, it can provide flexible capacity for backup and energy management.

Term

reliability metrics

"Most utilities in North America have what they call reliability metrics for performance, where they typically after major events have to comply with restoring 80% or 90% of their customers within certain timeframes,"

Reliability metrics are the rules utilities use to judge how quickly they get power back after outages. They often have targets like restoring power to most customers within a set number of days.

Concept

leasing program

"There's been recent news that GM Energy will expand the home energy system growth through a leasing program and sales of energy storage batteries to consumers who don't necessarily own EVs."

A leasing program means you pay to use the equipment instead of buying it all at once. That can make home energy storage more affordable upfront.

Company

DTE

"Or in many cases, we're partnering with energy [762.2s] companies. So we have partnerships with companies like DTE, PG&E."

DTE is an energy company mentioned as a partner. The point is that utilities can help customers get incentives for EV charging and backup-power tech.

Company

PG&E

"So we have partnerships with companies like DTE, PG&E. And PG&E is a good use case for [770.1s] us. As in that case, we have the energy company incentivizing the customer to enter into this [776.8s] technology."

PG&E is an electric utility. In this story, they’re working with GM so customers can get discounts for installing equipment that can help during outages.

Term

planned outages

"such that when they are [796.6s] on taking planned outages in advance of preparing for a major event like a wildfire, [802.6s] they want customers to rely on backup technologies such as vehicle to home."

Planned outages are power shutoffs that the utility schedules ahead of time. They’re often done for safety, and that’s why backup power matters.

Term

power the grid

"we are running [832.0s] a series of future pilots that allow us to expand the technology to power the grid as well. [841.0s] And we've successfully tested this technology in our labs."

Powering the grid means using EV batteries as extra electricity storage for the utility. Instead of wasting energy, the system can send it back when the grid needs help.

Term

grid stability and reliability

"And that can be very significant in terms of [860.6s] improving grid stability and reliability going forward."

This means the power system can keep electricity flowing consistently. The idea is that EV batteries can help the utility prevent outages and keep service dependable.

Term

energy storage

"Does that connect with the partnership [866.1s] that you have with Redwood Energy on energy storage? [873.8s] And why I am so excited about that is that it feeds into our strategy for circularity."

Energy storage means saving electricity so it can be used later. Here, it’s connected to using EV batteries (and related systems) to help during outages or grid stress.

Company

Redwood Energy

"Does that connect with the partnership [866.1s] that you have with Redwood Energy on energy storage? [873.8s] And why I am so excited about that is that it feeds into our strategy for circularity."

Redwood Energy is a company working on energy storage. The host connects it to using EV batteries in smarter ways so they can do more than just power the car.

Concept

circularity

"And why I am so excited about that is that it feeds into our strategy for circularity. [881.3s] As we think about how can we actually get more out of our EVs and the batteries?"

Circularity is about getting more use out of things instead of throwing them away. Here it means using EV batteries for more than just driving, so they can help in other ways too.

Term

EV

"known fact that for any given EV, the battery is usually the largest cost driver. And also,"

EV means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity, and this discussion is about what happens to the battery after it’s no longer ideal for driving.

Term

propulsion use

"typically, the batteries have a fairly significant life left after what we call propulsion use. So if it's predominantly used for mobility, in Redwood's case,"

Propulsion use is the battery doing its main job: powering the car to move. The point here is that batteries often still have life left after they’re no longer great for driving.

Term

battery recycling

"And then the last aspect of that is also how Redwood is one of the largest companies that are responsible for battery recycling and how they can actually extract some of the valuable materials in the battery, whether it's the rare earth materials."

Battery recycling is the process of recovering usable materials from spent EV batteries. The goal is to reduce waste and reintroduce valuable components back into new battery supply chains.

Term

rare earth materials

"extract some of the valuable materials in the battery, whether it's the rare earth materials. And so it creates a full, sustainable circular loop"

Rare earth materials are special metals that are hard to find and are used in some batteries. Recycling can recover them so new batteries don’t have to rely only on mining.

Concept

circular loop

"it creates a full, sustainable circular loop that allows us to get more with that investment. Starting with the car, the customer drives..."

A circular loop means the battery’s value is kept going through multiple steps instead of being thrown away. In this case: drive with it, use it for the grid later, then recycle it.

Concept

second use

"Starting with the car, the customer drives that can power their home, allow them to go from point A to point B. And second use, which is after the car and at the end of life, can we deploy it for grid applications?"

Second use means using an EV battery again after it’s worn out for driving. Instead of scrapping it, you can use it for things like storing energy for the power grid.

Term

grid applications

"And second use, which is after the car and at the end of life, can we deploy it for grid applications? And then beyond that, how we actually recover all the materials."

Grid applications are ways energy storage is used to help the electric power system. Here, the host is saying used EV batteries can be used to help the grid work better.

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