Kyle Coleman on Path to 40 Stores, Scott Pharr on F&I Pay Plan | Daily Dealer Live
About this episode
Kyle Coleman walks through a rapid expansion playbook that moved his group from rural rooftops into metro markets, pushed store count to seven, and set up a final fund raise before closing the fund. He also talks through vendor resets, Illinois regulatory hurdles, and operational fixes like VINQ and tighter call handling. Scott Pharr then shifts to F&I, showing how a new pay plan and stricter menu standards drove a sharp jump in service contract penetration, while both guests keep circling back to phone response, follow-up, and net to sales.
Daily Dealer Live
"Podcast: Car Dealership Guy Podcast Episode: Kyle Coleman on Path to 40 Stores, Scott Pharr on F&I Pay Plan | Daily Dealer Live"
This is the name of the podcast/show you’re listening to. It helps identify the program format and branding.
Daily Dealer Live is the show/event name used in the episode title and referenced by the hosts. It’s a content marker rather than an automotive concept.
F&I Pay Plan
"Kyle Coleman on Path to 40 Stores, Scott Pharr on F&I Pay Plan | Daily Dealer Live"
F&I is the part of the dealership that handles financing and extra products. A pay plan is the way the staff gets paid for those sales.
“F&I” refers to Finance and Insurance—the department that sells financing products and add-ons during the car-buying process. A pay plan is how that team is compensated, which can strongly affect sales behavior and customer experience.
TransUnion
"All right. First up today, TransUnion's Q1 credit industry insights report shows auto loan originations. They dropped 1% in Q4, 25, coming in at 6.2 million new accounts..."
TransUnion is a company that tracks credit data. Here, they’re sharing a report about how many new auto loans are being started and whether car shoppers are getting approved at different credit levels.
TransUnion is a credit-reporting and data analytics company. In this segment, they’re cited for their Q1 credit industry insights report, including auto-loan originations and how new auto credit accounts are trending.
auto loan originations
"All right. First up today, TransUnion's Q1 credit industry insights report shows auto loan originations. They dropped 1% in Q4..."
“Auto loan originations” just means new car loans being started. If this number drops, it usually means fewer people are taking out financing to buy cars.
Auto loan originations are the number of new auto loans that get created (approved and funded) during a period. It’s a key indicator of consumer demand for financing and how active the auto credit market is.
tariff driven pull forward of 2025 demand borrowed from this year
"And the culprit in question, well, it's the tariff driven pull forward of 2025 demand borrowed from this year."
It means some people may have bought cars earlier than planned because of tariff-related uncertainty. That can make demand look strong now, but weaker later when those earlier purchases are done.
This describes a timing effect where tariffs encouraged buyers to purchase earlier than they otherwise would have. Demand “pulled forward” from 2025 can temporarily boost current numbers, then leave the following year softer.
risk tiers
"...still running 10% below Q4 2019 levels across all risk tiers. And the culprit in question..."
Risk tiers are how lenders sort borrowers based on how risky they think the loan is. If the numbers are worse across more tiers, it can mean more people are struggling to qualify or afford payments.
Risk tiers are categories lenders use to group borrowers by credit risk (for example, prime vs. subprime). Trends across risk tiers show whether credit tightening is affecting only higher-risk buyers or everyone.
Seven Even Super
"...2026 data points to the softness continuing with even super prime borrowers starting to strain under higher m..."
“Seven” here doesn’t clearly point to a specific car—it sounds like part of a financing or data discussion. The podcast is talking about how lending is getting harder for some buyers. That can affect what people can afford, even if the cars themselves don’t change.
“Seven” in this context appears to be shorthand for a financing or credit-related metric rather than a specific vehicle model. The mention of “2026 data points” and “super prime borrowers” indicates the discussion is about how lending conditions are changing and how that can affect buyers’ ability to qualify. It’s likely included to explain market softness and financing pressure rather than vehicle specifications.
super prime
"...softness continuing with even super prime borrowers starting to strain under higher monthly payments..."
Super prime borrowers are people with excellent credit. If even they’re feeling pressure, it usually means car payments are getting harder to manage for a wider group of buyers.
Super prime describes borrowers with very strong credit profiles, usually associated with the best approval odds and lowest rates. The segment notes even these borrowers are starting to strain, suggesting affordability pressure is spreading beyond just high-risk customers.
subprime
"...continuing with even super prime borrowers starting to strain under higher monthly payments and subprime consumers who are already stretched by gas prices..."
Subprime borrowers are people with lower credit scores. Lenders often charge them more or approve them with tougher terms, so they can be hit harder when expenses rise.
Subprime refers to borrowers with weaker credit histories, which typically leads to higher interest rates and stricter lending terms. In the segment, subprime buyers are described as already stretched by everyday costs, which can reduce car buying.
OEM earnings
"Interesting data point from TransUnion. On the OEM earnings front, Toyota is expected to report its fourth consecutive quarter..."
OEM just means the actual car brand/manufacturer. “Earnings” are the company’s profit and financial results, which help show whether the business is doing well or struggling.
OEM stands for original equipment manufacturer, meaning the automaker that builds vehicles. “OEM earnings” refers to the financial results automakers report, which can reflect how pricing, costs, and demand are affecting profitability.
Toyota
"Interesting data point from TransUnion. On the OEM earnings front, Toyota is expected to report its fourth consecutive quarter of year over year profit declines..."
Toyota is the carmaker being used as an example. They’re expected to report earnings showing profit is down compared to the prior year, which can signal stress in the auto industry.
Toyota is referenced as an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) whose earnings are expected to show declining year-over-year profit. The discussion uses Toyota’s projected operating profit to illustrate broader industry financial pressure.
operating profit
"Analysts project operating profit of about 813 billion yen... That's down 27% from a year ago..."
Operating profit is a measure of how much money the company makes from its main business after paying regular operating costs. It’s a useful “how healthy is the business” number.
Operating profit is the profit a company makes from its core business operations after operating expenses, but before things like taxes and certain financing items. It’s commonly used to gauge how well the business is running day-to-day.
OEM profit pressure
"For dealers, none of this hits the floor immediately, but sustained OEM profit pressure tends to eventually show up in pricing, posture, incentive spend, and production decisions."
OEM profit pressure is when the car company feels financial pressure to keep making money. To respond, they may change pricing and promotions, and that can affect what dealers can sell cars for.
OEM profit pressure means the automaker’s pressure to maintain or improve profitability. When costs rise or demand softens, OEMs may adjust pricing, incentives, and production plans, which then flows through to dealer pricing and inventory strategy.
incentive spend
"For dealers, none of this hits the floor immediately, but sustained OEM profit pressure tends to eventually show up in pricing, posture, incentive spend, and production decisions."
Incentive spend is the promotional money car companies use to lower the price or encourage buyers. If the company is under pressure, it may change how much discounting it’s willing to do.
Incentive spend is the money automakers (OEMs) allocate to discounts, rebates, and other sales promotions to help move vehicles. When OEM profit pressure rises, incentive spend can change—either increasing to stimulate demand or being managed differently to protect margins.
employee pricing campaign
"Ford last week launched a new employee pricing campaign this week called American Value for American Values running through July 6th and covering most 2025 and 2026 Ford and Lincoln models at Ford employee pricing."
An employee pricing campaign is when a car company offers special discounts to its employees. It can change how much people expect to pay, and it can affect what incentives dealers need to move cars.
An employee pricing campaign is an OEM (like Ford) program that offers discounted pricing to employees (and sometimes their eligible family members). Dealers and shoppers watch these programs because they can influence demand, pricing expectations, and how much “incentive” support is needed.
Ford
"Keeping with the OEM news today, Ford last week launched a new employee pricing campaign this week called American Value for American Values running through July 6th..."
Ford is the car company behind the discount program being discussed. When Ford changes pricing or incentives, it can affect what dealers can sell cars for and how quickly they move inventory.
Ford is the automaker running the described employee pricing program. In dealership news, Ford’s incentives and pricing campaigns are important because they can shift sales volume and how dealers manage inventory and pricing.
Lincoln
"...covering most 2025 and 2026 Ford and Lincoln models at Ford employee pricing."
Lincoln is Ford’s luxury-car brand. The program includes Lincoln models too, so the discount could affect sales and pricing for those higher-end vehicles as well.
Lincoln is Ford’s luxury brand, included in the employee pricing coverage mentioned in the segment. That matters because luxury models often have different pricing structures and customer expectations than mainstream Ford vehicles.
aged 25 models
"Most dealers who are moving inventory don't have many aged 25 models sitting around to offer at a plan pricing."
“Aged” models are cars that have been sitting on the lot for a while. If a dealer doesn’t have many older cars, it’s harder to use special pricing plans to move that inventory.
“Aged” inventory refers to vehicles that have been sitting unsold for a long time, often measured in months or model-year age. The comment implies that dealers who stayed lean may not have many older-model units available to sell using plan pricing.
Ken Ganley Automotive Group
"Ken Ganley Automotive Group picked up its first mod of franchise closing on Mazda of Kent in Northeastern Ohio on April 27th now renamed Ken Ganley Mazda."
Ken Ganley Automotive Group is a company that owns and operates multiple car dealerships. In this segment, they bought a Mazda store and rebranded it, which can affect how that dealership runs and competes locally.
Ken Ganley Automotive Group is the dealership group that acquired a Mazda franchise in Ohio, renaming it Ken Ganley Mazda. Dealership-group acquisitions can change local competition, store branding, and how inventory and sales processes are managed.
Mazda of Kent
"Ken Ganley Automotive Group picked up its first mod of franchise closing on Mazda of Kent in Northeastern Ohio on April 27th now renamed Ken Ganley Mazda."
Mazda of Kent is the name of a specific Mazda dealership in Kent, Ohio. The segment says it was bought and renamed as part of a franchise acquisition.
Mazda of Kent is the specific Mazda dealership location that was acquired and renamed. In dealership news, the “of [city]” naming identifies the franchise store being discussed, which matters for local market impact.
Grand Motor Cars Group
"Meanwhile in Georgia, Rummy Bullard of Grand Motor Cars Group closed on Shot and Kirk Hyundai of Canton on April 16th, renaming it Grand Hyundai of Canton."
Grand Motor Cars Group is a company that owns dealerships. Here, it’s involved in buying a Hyundai store in Georgia and renaming it.
Grand Motor Cars Group is the dealership group led by Rummy Bullard that closed on a Hyundai store acquisition in Georgia. Group ownership changes can affect store operations, staffing, and how the franchise is marketed locally.
CDG Bicell tracker
"Bicell activity, you can go to our CDG Bicell tracker. We love our tracker at CDGBicell.com for more information on this and other M&A across the year."
They mention a tracking website they use for dealership/auto-industry updates. It’s basically a dashboard you can check for the data they’re talking about.
The CDG Bicell tracker is a tool or dashboard the hosts use to monitor something related to the auto industry. The segment points listeners to a specific site to view the tracker and related information.
M&A
"We love our tracker at CDGBicell.com for more information on this and other M&A across the year. And that's a wrap on today's auto industry headlines."
M&A means companies combining or one company buying another. In car dealerships, it often shows up when bigger dealership groups buy smaller groups or individual stores.
M&A stands for mergers and acquisitions—when companies buy, merge with, or take over other companies. In auto retail, this often means dealership groups expanding by purchasing other stores or consolidating.
Daily Deal Alive
"Tomorrow marks one year of Daily Deal Alive coming at you three times a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 1 p.m. Eastern. And we have a special episode coming up Wednesday."
This is the name of the show they’re talking about. They’re telling listeners when it airs and that there’s a special episode coming up.
Daily Deal Alive is the podcast/show the hosts are promoting, with a schedule and upcoming special episode. It’s a structural segment of the episode rather than an automotive technical topic.
Coleman Auto Group
"Let's jump into our first conversation with Kyle Coleman, president and CEO of Coleman Auto Group. Kyle, welcome back to the show... So like you said, I'm Kyle Coleman, president, CEO of the Coleman Automotive Group."
This is the dealership company Kyle Coleman runs. He says he started it by buying his first two stores and has been growing since.
Coleman Auto Group is the dealership group Kyle Coleman leads. In this segment, it’s presented as the business he founded and expanded by buying stores.
Coleman Automotive Group
"Yeah. So like you said, I'm Kyle Coleman, president, CEO of the Coleman Automotive Group. Actually, this is our founder month... on May 9th of 2024, I founded the group and bought my first two stores."
This is the same dealership business Kyle Coleman is talking about. He’s describing how he started the group and bought his first stores.
Coleman Automotive Group is referenced as the dealership group Kyle Coleman says he founded and bought his first stores under. It’s essentially the same organization as Coleman Auto Group, used here with a slightly different name.
acquisitions
"Last year was especially busy, five acquisitions in 12 months. So five and 12 is a big lift for anyone... These acquisitions take so much prep time."
Here, “acquisitions” means buying other dealership locations. The big challenge is getting everything ready—people, processes, and support—before the new store opens under your ownership.
In this context, acquisitions mean buying other dealership locations or dealership groups. The hosts discuss how taking over a new store requires lots of planning and staffing so the business can run smoothly from day one.
scaling the stores
"What we found is we were scaling the stores and as well as scaling people within the stores, but is also trying to keep up with our corporate staff."
“Scaling the stores” refers to growing the number of dealership locations and expanding the organization to support them. The discussion highlights that growth isn’t just physical expansion—it also requires adding corporate staff and building consistent processes.
corporate staff
"...trying to keep up with our corporate staff. These acquisitions take so much prep time."
“Corporate staff” means the team at the dealership group’s headquarters that helps all the stores. When you buy new stores, you need enough corporate support to help them run well.
Corporate staff are the centralized employees at the dealership group level (not the individual store teams) who support things like operations, training, and integration during growth. The episode frames them as a bottleneck when acquisitions happen quickly.
moving into metros
"...one of the biggest strategy changes has been moving into metros... metro stores, a lot more pieces go into those plays than some of those smallers."
“Moving into metros” means shifting dealership strategy from smaller rural markets to larger metropolitan areas. The hosts note that metro stores involve more complexity and different economics, including different pricing and deal structures.
multiples
"...plus the multiples and price points are dramatically different. So that's been one of the biggest change."
“Multiples” are a way of pricing a business using a ratio—basically how much you pay compared to how it earns money. The episode suggests those ratios can be higher or different in metro areas.
In dealership M&A, “multiples” are valuation metrics that express what buyers pay relative to a business’s earnings or revenue (e.g., a price tied to EBITDA). The hosts say metro markets can have dramatically different multiples than rural areas.
price points
"...plus the multiples and price points are dramatically different. So that's been one of the biggest change."
“Price points” here refers to the typical pricing levels in the market—both for vehicles sold and for dealership valuation in acquisitions. The hosts connect metro markets to different price points, implying different customer demand and deal economics.
Reynolds contract
"you talked about how you had inherited a Reynolds contract with the Nissan store you bought, and you were paying 120 grand a year for a system, and you weren't using that."
A “Reynolds contract” refers to a specific dealership agreement with Reynolds (likely a vendor providing dealership services or systems). The discussion frames it like an ongoing fee that wasn’t being used, creating a recurring cost.
unutilized bill
"Is that still the case? Does that still go as an unutilized bill? It is an unutilized bill, unfortunately."
An “unutilized bill” is a recurring charge for something the business isn’t actively using. In dealership operations, this often shows up as subscription/service fees or vendor agreements that continue even after the value isn’t realized.
blue sky
"We just looked at it as it's an additional blue sky that we were paying for the store."
“Blue sky” here means something they thought might be beneficial in the future, but it wasn’t actually delivering value. They’re saying they paid for it anyway.
“Blue sky” in business talk means an optimistic, extra opportunity or benefit that may not be realized. In this context, they describe the unused contract as an unnecessary cost they were paying for without real upside.
net to sales
"That's our most profitable store. I mean, it makes a very good margin these days. I think last month it was almost 8% net to sales."
“Net to sales” is a way to measure how much profit a store makes compared to how much it sells. They’re saying their store’s profit is strong—around 8% last month.
“Net to sales” is a profitability metric comparing net profit to total sales revenue, expressed as a percentage. Here, the speaker uses it to argue the Nissan store is performing well financially despite the earlier contract cost.
market share
"as you grow and as you get more market share, are those relationships guiding any of the decisions you're making today in 2026?"
Market share means how much of the overall car sales in an area a dealer group controls. The speaker is saying that as they sell more, they have more bargaining power with suppliers.
Market share is the portion of total sales in a market that a company or group captures. In this context, the speaker links growing market share to stronger leverage with vendors and better partnership terms.
Cox Automotive
"Realistically, the 800-pound gorilla, so to speak, that's Cox Automotive, we've pretty much cut every partnership, including Vauto... We only have one Cox product left in our entire organization that's an advertising product."
Cox Automotive is a big company that sells software and services to car dealers. Here, the dealer owner is saying Cox didn’t solve problems the way they wanted, so they reduced Cox products.
Cox Automotive is a major dealership-industry technology and services provider. In this segment, the speaker discusses how Cox’s products and support approach affected vendor partnerships and led to cutting most Cox relationships.
Vauto
"Realistically, the 800-pound gorilla, so to speak, that's Cox Automotive, we've pretty much cut every partnership, including Vauto. We recently partnered with Venq..."
Vauto is a software service dealers use to help find and manage cars for their lots. In this conversation, the speaker says they stopped using it.
Vauto is a dealer-focused automotive technology platform, commonly used for sourcing and managing vehicle inventory. The speaker says they cut their partnership with Vauto as part of changing vendor relationships.
Venq
"We recently partnered with Venq, which has been a great partnership for us. But we just feel that we're looking for partners that are willing to play nice in the sandbox."
Venq is another company the dealer group started working with. They’re saying it’s been a good partnership compared with some other vendors.
Venq is referenced as a newer vendor partnership that the dealership group says has been working well. The context suggests the speaker values partners that integrate smoothly and cooperate when issues arise.
Mannheim auction
"What about Mannheim auction? That's tough to get away from completely... if you're buying from the auction right now, you're pretty much losing... The only winner at Mannheim is Mannheim itself."
Mannheim is an auction where car dealers buy vehicles for their lots. The speaker is saying it’s hard to escape and that dealers often feel like they’re not winning.
Mannheim is a well-known vehicle auction brand used by dealers to buy inventory. The speaker argues it’s difficult to fully avoid and suggests dealers may feel they don’t get a good deal when buying there.
dealer franchise agreement
"Igor K says, the hardest parts to get approved on your first dealer franchise agreement after the first one, new dealer franchise agreement approvals get easier and easier."
A dealer franchise agreement is the official contract that lets a dealership sell a car brand. The comment suggests that once you’ve proven you can operate successfully, it’s easier to get approval for more locations.
A dealer franchise agreement is the contract that authorizes a dealership to sell a specific brand’s vehicles in a defined market. The speaker’s comment implies that getting approval for additional franchise locations becomes easier after the first one.
DMS
"Yoga Cars comes in and says, hey, speaking of that Reynolds deal, what DMS does the Nissan store use today, your most profitable store?"
DMS means Dealer Management System. It’s the computer system a dealership uses to manage things like cars on the lot and the sales process.
DMS stands for Dealer Management System, the software dealers use to run day-to-day operations like inventory, sales workflow, and customer records. The speaker is asked which DMS a Nissan store uses, indicating it’s a key operational tool.
F&I
"Kyle Coleman on Path to 40 Stores, Scott Pharr on F&I Pay Plan | Daily Dealer Live [907.2s] walk in day one, we are full techie on live..."
F&I means Finance and Insurance. It’s the part of a dealership that helps you get the loan and may also sell extra products like service plans. The way they pay their F&I staff can change how they run those deals.
F&I stands for Finance and Insurance—the dealership department that sells financing products and add-ons like warranties and service contracts. It’s a major profit center for many stores, so pay plans and processes around F&I can strongly affect dealership performance.
VimQ
"[907.2s] walk in day one, we are full techie on live. So in which they work great with our other [913.2s] drive centric and VimQ, their integrated partner. So we're fully streamlined across our group."
VimQ sounds like a software tool the dealership uses. The host says it connects with other systems so their process is “streamlined” across multiple stores.
VimQ is mentioned as an “integrated partner” used alongside Drive Centric to streamline dealership operations across a group. In this context, it likely refers to software/workflow integration that helps manage leads, inventory, or customer communication.
Nissan
"[920.4s] Yeah. So you have Ford, Chevy, GMC Christ CDJR and Nissan. And your first points were Nissan. [930.2s] Talk to us a little bit about Nissan..."
They’re talking about Nissan as the car brand they’re focusing on right now. The point is that Nissan has been selling better lately, and they’re offering deals that can make the cars cheaper to buy.
The guest discusses Nissan as a key brand in their dealership group, calling it a “comeback story” based on sales growth and improved profitability. They also highlight Nissan’s pricing strategy, including multiple models under $30,000 and promotional offers like 0% financing and rebates.
stackable things
"[992.0s] promoting, you know, 0% and rebates, you know, stackable things, which most manufacturers are. [997.7s] I mean, you know, some of the big brands that everybody's paying 8 to 10 for still in this [1002.7s] current market..."
“Stackable” means you might be able to combine more than one discount or incentive at the same time. Whether you can stack them depends on the offer rules for that specific car.
“Stackable” incentives means multiple manufacturer offers can be combined on the same deal (for example, financing plus rebates). Deal structures vary by brand and model, and stacking is often limited by eligibility rules or whether offers can be used together.
0% and rebates
"[978.5s] things over the last 12 months. And let's not forget to mention that they're an affordable brand [984.7s] right now. They have seven models under $30,000, including SUVs, and they're still [992.0s] promoting, you know, 0% and rebates, you know, stackable things, which most manufacturers are."
They’re talking about common car-buying deals: 0% financing and rebates. These can lower what you pay, but you usually have to qualify and the fine print can change the real savings.
The speaker references promotional financing (“0%”) and rebates as incentives manufacturers use to move inventory. These offers can reduce the effective cost of buying a vehicle, but the exact terms (eligibility, term length, and stacking rules) matter.
Toyota RAV4
"...a powerhouse. I mean, you're seeing, you know, a RAV4, you know, some of them are up to $50,000. I mean..."
The Toyota RAV4 is a small SUV made for everyday driving and family use. Some versions cost a lot more than the base model, so you may hear prices approaching $50,000. It’s a popular vehicle, so it often shows up in sales and pricing discussions.
The Toyota RAV4 is a compact SUV known for being practical and widely used as a daily driver. It often comes in multiple trims, and higher trims can push pricing into the $40k–$50k range, which is why it may come up when discussing current market values. In a dealership context, it’s a common example of how popular vehicles can command strong pricing.
buy, buy, sell watch
"[1020.5s] that we keep hearing across the industry. So do you continue to look for Nissan opportunities? [1025.5s] Is that on your buy, buy, sell watch? No, I'm not afraid."
They’re describing a strategy for growing the dealership business. It means they’re always looking at which stores to buy and which to sell as they expand.
“Buy, buy, sell watch” is dealership shorthand for tracking acquisition and divestment opportunities—buying certain stores and selling others as part of a growth plan. It’s presented as an ongoing strategy rather than a one-time decision.
blockbuster deal
"[1031.0s] we're looking to streamline across our industry, we're looking to consolidate and look at a ton [1036.7s] of different brands work. But right now, I mean, we do have a blockbuster deal that we're under [1042.0s] contract. I won't say too much. But let's just say we're buying a whole automotive group."
A “blockbuster deal” here refers to a very large acquisition agreement—described as being under contract to buy “a whole automotive group.” In dealership terms, this usually means a major multi-store purchase that can rapidly change the store count and market footprint.
turnaround
"What could Stellantis learn in their turnaround that Nissan has figured out?"
A “turnaround” means a company is trying to fix problems and get back to doing well. In this conversation, it’s about changing decisions so sales improve.
A “turnaround” is a business recovery effort where a company changes strategy to improve performance. Here, it’s used to describe how a manufacturer adjusts product decisions and listens to dealers/customers to stabilize sales.
Jeep Cherokee
"I would say, you know, I feel like they moved a little slow, you know, with the Cherokee, you know, the Cherokee, I mean, since those have hit the ground for us at our two CDJR stores, we've seen great success and sales have started to go up."
They’re talking about the Jeep Cherokee and how the company rolled out or adjusted it too slowly. The takeaway is that when a manufacturer listens and times changes better, sales can improve.
The speaker says Stellantis “moved a little slow” with the Jeep Cherokee. In this context, it’s about product timing and responsiveness—how quickly a manufacturer reacts to dealer and customer demand after a model change.
Hemi Ram Sales
"at gunpoint, they said, hey, we're getting rid of the Hemi. You know, that didn't turn out too well. I mean, we sales drop dramatically across our two locations. And now, the second that they bring back the Hemi, the Hemi Ram Sales is up, you know, 20%."
They’re talking about a popular engine option (“Hemi”) in Ram trucks. When that engine was taken away, sales fell, and when it returned, sales jumped—so customers really cared about it.
“Hemi” refers to the HEMI V8 engine family, and “Ram” ties it to Ram trucks. The speaker claims sales dropped when the Hemi was removed, then rose about 20% after it was brought back—showing how strongly buyers respond to engine availability.
retained earnings compound over time
"It was built so retained earnings compound over time. And the intent was you need, you need to raise less capital per deal."
Retained earnings are money the business keeps from its profits. “Compound over time” means that money gets reinvested, and growth can build on itself year after year.
“Retained earnings” are profits a business keeps instead of distributing. The phrase “compound over time” means those retained profits are reinvested so the fund’s value can grow faster as earnings accumulate.
Prime Dealer Equity Fund
"So that five, five dealerships and partnership with Prime Dealer Equity Fund, the Coleman, Coleman Prime Duo, so to speak."
This is the name of an investor/fund that helped pay for dealership acquisitions. The host says it worked alongside Nissan, with each party covering different parts of the financing.
Prime Dealer Equity Fund is the investment vehicle mentioned as a partner in the dealership acquisition financing. The speaker says the fund provided the capital while Nissan handled the real estate portion of the deal.
accredited investors
"So we look for accredited investors to invest into the fund, which then we have a holding company..."
Accredited investors are people or groups that qualify under financial rules to invest in certain private deals. The fund is saying it needs that type of investor to participate.
Accredited investors are individuals or institutions that meet regulatory requirements to invest in certain private offerings. The speaker says the fund looks for accredited investors to put money into the Prime Dealer Equity Fund.
holding company
"...which then we have a holding company, so to speak that, you know, Coleman Automotive owns a percentage of and the fund owns a percentage of..."
A holding company is like a parent company that owns parts of other businesses. Here, it’s being used to organize who owns what percentage of the dealership group and the investment fund.
A holding company is a corporate entity that owns shares or interests in other companies. In the segment, they describe a structure where Coleman Automotive and the fund each own a percentage through a holding-company setup.
preferred equity stake
"...the people that are investing in that have a preferred equity stake. So I don't get to take any profits from the company until Coleman Automotive gets no profits until the fund is paid back fully."
This is a type of ownership in a fund where the investor gets paid first, based on the deal terms. It’s meant to reduce risk for those investors compared with regular owners.
A “preferred equity stake” is an ownership position in an investment fund that typically gets paid before common equity holders. In this structure, investors may receive returns according to agreed terms, before the dealership/other owners share profits.
dilute
"...we are closing the fund, because we don't want to, yeah, we'll be sustained based off of all of our models. Plus, we don't want to dilute anybody anymore, right?"
Dilute means your slice of ownership gets smaller when new money is added. They’re saying they don’t want to bring in more investors and shrink current owners’ shares.
To “dilute” means reducing existing owners’ percentage ownership when new investors come in. The speaker says they’re closing the fund to avoid diluting current stakeholders further.
interest rates
"...not to have to take on unburdened and stressful debt, and especially with interest rates where they're currently at."
Interest rates are what you pay for borrowing money. When rates are high, loans cost more—so the speaker says their approach helped them avoid stressful debt.
“Interest rates” are the cost of borrowing money, expressed as a percentage. The speaker links higher interest rates to why they avoided taking on more debt and instead used their fund strategy to scale.
McGrath acquisition
"before it closes. What was the moment in the McGrath acquisition where you almost walked or was there one? You know, I will say that it's gotten a little easier."
They’re talking about buying another dealership group or set of stores (an acquisition) involving McGrath. Deals like this usually have paperwork and approvals before everything is finalized.
The speaker is referring to an acquisition involving McGrath. In dealership rollups, acquisitions are how groups expand store count, but they often trigger legal and regulatory review before the deal can close.
regulatory stuff in Illinois
"There were a couple times in this deal that, you know, were stressful points. But mainly, it was dealing with some of the regulatory stuff in Illinois."
Even when a dealership deal is agreed to, the state may require extra approvals. The speaker is saying Illinois had extra rules that made the process harder and less predictable.
The segment highlights that dealership acquisitions can be delayed or complicated by state-level regulations. These approvals can involve licensing, ownership rules, and other compliance steps that must be satisfied before closing.
Chicago suburb, Elgin
"Yeah. So speaking of that, it's a Chicago suburb, Elgin, where you are. What aside from the approvals and some of the not politics, but just hoops you had to jump through, what have been some other major differences of that Chicago suburb versus your other more rural markets?"
They’re using Elgin (a Chicago-area suburb) as an example of how dealership business changes by location. The point is that city/suburban markets can be more expensive and competitive than rural ones.
Elgin is used as the example market for comparing dealership expansion in a Chicago-area suburb versus more rural areas. The discussion focuses on how local market conditions affect costs and customer competition.
advertising dollars
"The entry point into the market, you know, advertising dollars don't cope quite as far in a Chicago, you know, market versus, you know, a rural market."
They mean the money spent on marketing. Their point is that in a big-city market, marketing is more expensive, so the same amount of money doesn’t go as far.
“Advertising dollars” refers to the budget spent on marketing (ads, promotions, lead-gen). The speaker notes that in a Chicago market, each dollar tends to produce less reach or fewer leads than in rural markets.
Mud Advertising
"we partnered with Mud Advertising across our whole organization. So we feel really good about our advertising strategy there."
They’re naming their marketing agency. The idea is that this company helps run their advertising strategy across all the dealerships.
Mud Advertising is mentioned as the marketing partner the dealer group uses across its organization. In dealership operations, agencies like this can manage lead generation, ad spend, and campaign performance across multiple stores.
VINQ
"Yeah, I would feel at the first of the year, we switched to VINQ. And I"
VINQ is a tool dealers use to help find vehicles and manage leads/inventory-related work. They’re saying switching to it helped them grow faster.
VINQ is a software platform used in automotive retail for lead generation and vehicle inventory/vehicle acquisition workflows. The speaker says they switched to VINQ at the start of the year to help scale growth across departments.
KVB
"...instead of having to pay for a third party like KVB or something like that, they're building that our website out..."
KVB is being used as an example of an outside company that provides tools. The point is: they don’t want to keep paying a third party if they can build the tools themselves.
KVB is mentioned as a third-party provider they would otherwise pay for tools related to vehicle acquisition. The speaker contrasts outsourcing to KVB versus building the capability in-house as part of their platform.
curb buying
"...that's really upped our curb buying, which we all know when we buy from customers, we win..."
“Curb buying” means the dealership buys cars directly from customers instead of waiting for cars to show up through other channels. The goal is to make it easier for customers to sell to them.
“Curb buying” is the process of buying vehicles directly from customers, often initiated by the customer bringing the car to a dealership or responding to a dealership’s offer. It’s contrasted here with third-party acquisition channels and is framed as a way to improve deal flow.
Carvana
"...we're trying to stop, you know, Carvana from this monster takeover of, you know, acquisitions from customers."
Carvana is a well-known online used-car seller. Here, they’re being used as the example of a company that’s taking customers away from traditional dealers.
Carvana is referenced as a competitor in the used-car acquisition space, described as attempting a “monster takeover” of customer acquisitions. The speaker’s argument is that dealerships need to offer strong terms and get dealers engaged to compete.
MMR
"...it seems we report on this to MMR, you don't have access to Kelly Blua."
MMR here is being treated like a pricing/valuation reporting system. Dealerships use tools like this to understand what cars are worth.
MMR is referenced as a reporting destination for vehicle-related information, likely used to track pricing or valuation metrics. In dealership operations, MMR-style sources are commonly used to benchmark used-car values.
Kelly Blua
"...we report on this to MMR, you don't have access to Kelly Blua. Has that been a crutch..."
This is likely “Kelley Blue Book,” which is a guide for what cars are worth. The speaker is saying some software may or may not pull that pricing information.
“Kelly Blua” appears to be a misspoken reference to “Kelley Blue Book,” a widely used vehicle pricing and valuation source. The speaker is discussing whether a tool has access to that pricing data.
inflation
"...rising interest rates, inflation, straight-to-horror moves..."
Inflation means prices are rising. When everyday costs go up, people may have less money for big purchases like cars.
Inflation is a general rise in prices over time, which can increase both operating costs and customer payment pressure. For dealerships, it can also affect vehicle pricing and consumer willingness to spend.
retail
"...there are truly challenges to retail as we hit the mid-year mark of 2026."
Here, “retail” means selling cars directly to regular customers. The speaker is saying the environment could make those sales harder.
In this context, “retail” refers to consumer-facing car sales (selling to end customers), as opposed to wholesale or other channels. The speaker is concerned about how macro conditions impact dealership sales to individual buyers.
non-negotiables
"...it all it easily becomes the benchmark, unfortunately for a lot of people. So what we've we've changed it to is we're talking about non-negotiables..."
“Non-negotiables” are specific performance requirements the organization treats as mandatory rather than optional goals. In a dealership context, they’re often tied to daily activities (like appointment setting) that drive sales outcomes.
confirmed appointments
"...we're talking about non-negotiables, you know, 15, confirmed appointments a day is a non-negotiable if you can't have 15 confirmed appointments a day..."
A “confirmed appointment” is a scheduled customer visit that has been verified (typically via phone/text/email) so the dealership expects the customer to show up. In sales operations, confirmed appointments are used as a leading indicator for how many opportunities the store will have to sell vehicles.
round table
"We'll have you back for the round table at the very end after we interview with scott. So kyle Thanks for being on daily deal alive and sharing your perspectives"
They’re saying there will be a group discussion later in the episode. It’s just the show’s planned format for the end segment.
“Round table” here refers to a later discussion segment at the end of the show after interviews. It’s a format marker rather than a technical automotive concept.
podium
"Today's episode is brought to you by podium the ai platform trusted by One in three dealerships podium helps dealers consolidate sales Service messaging and voice into one connected system that actually runs the work"
Podium is a software tool dealerships use to talk to customers. It helps organize messages and calls so the dealership can respond faster and more consistently.
Podium is an AI-driven platform used by dealerships to manage customer communications. The segment describes it as helping consolidate sales, service messaging, and voice into one system that supports dealership operations.
P4 Automotive Group
"Yeah, uh scott far and the coo [1941.0s] Head of the operations for p4 automotive group recently rebranded as the leo auto group"
This is the dealership company Scott Pharr works for. They’re talking about how the group grew and how they handled new store acquisitions.
P4 Automotive Group is the dealership group Scott Pharr leads as COO. In this segment, it’s discussed in the context of acquisitions and operational growth.
Leo Auto Group
"Head of the operations for p4 automotive group recently rebranded as the leo auto group [1947.4s] My partner leo porto loopy is the is the driver and the grower of all this"
This is the dealership company name they’re using now. They mention it because the business changed names recently while continuing to grow.
Leo Auto Group is the dealership group name that P4 Automotive Group recently rebranded to. The rebrand is mentioned as part of the company’s current identity while discussing growth and operations.
improve performance across the group
"[2210.9s] Even with the butt kicking we took in february. We've had four months. We're up year to date a lot [2216.8s] good [2220.3s] Pardon me across the board and every measurable. All right. Let's talk specifics and some of the things you've been up to [2225.8s] Working on to improve performance across the group."
They’re talking about how they’re trying to get better results across their dealership group, meaning multiple stores working toward the same goals.
This is a discussion about operational improvement across multiple dealership locations (“the group”). It’s a management topic rather than a technical automotive term, but it frames what changes they’re making and why.
F&I gross
"And the previous pay plan was a really ridiculously high percent top of total f and i gross generated"
“F&I gross” means the money the dealership makes from the finance-and-add-ons side of the deal. It’s the number managers use to judge how well the F&I team is doing.
“F&I gross” is the dealership’s profit dollars generated in Finance and Insurance—typically from add-on products sold alongside the vehicle. It’s often used as the base number for pay plans and performance metrics in the F&I department.
total product penetration
"And the only kicker for a bonus was total product penetration"
“Total product penetration” means how many customers buy the add-ons offered during the finance process. Higher penetration usually means more add-on sales per deal.
“Total product penetration” is the overall percentage of deals where customers purchase F&I products (not just one category). Pay plans often reward it because it encourages broader add-on sales across the deal.
service contract penetration
"Um that I understand the value of service contract penetration and how that can just drive and fuel so much growth"
“Service contract penetration” means how often customers say yes to an extended warranty/service plan. If more customers buy it, the dealership makes more money from those plans.
“Service contract penetration” is the percentage of customers who buy an extended service contract. Higher penetration usually increases recurring aftermarket revenue and can stabilize dealership profitability.
finance pvr
"If I combined 2024 and 2025 Through november of 25 before the pay plan changed This group ran 1764 finance pvr all in and 40.13 bsc"
“Finance PVR” is a way to measure how much money the finance department makes per vehicle deal. It helps dealerships compare how well different stores or periods are doing.
“Finance PVR” is a dealership metric for finance department performance per retail vehicle (or per retail deal), used to track how much finance profit is generated on average. It’s commonly used to compare performance across stores or time periods.
bsc
"This group ran 1764 finance pvr all in and 40.13 bsc"
“BSC” looks like a shorthand scorecard number the dealership uses with finance results. The exact meaning isn’t spelled out in this clip, so it may be a store-specific metric.
“BSC” appears to be an internal dealership acronym used alongside finance PVR to describe another performance metric (often related to business/finance results per deal). The transcript doesn’t define it, so the exact meaning can’t be confirmed from this excerpt alone.
year to date
"Went on january 1st year to date We are at 25 39 as a group and 58.4 percent service contract penetration"
Year to date just means “since the beginning of this year.” It’s used to track how things are going so far.
Year to date (YTD) refers to performance totals measured from the start of the current calendar year up to the present. In dealership reporting, YTD numbers are commonly used for tracking sales, gross profit, and F&I metrics like service contract penetration.
stilanis
"Wow, I mean that that allows you to buy some deals when you have some tougher brands like stilanis right now It's it's tough for it hasn't been the hottest deal out there"
The host is mentioning a brand that’s harder to sell right now. The point is that their improved add-on sales help them handle that challenge.
“Stilanis” appears to be a mishearing of a vehicle brand name in the transcript. The speaker is saying that having higher service contract penetration helps them compete even with tougher-to-sell brands.
generator motors
"Wow, I mean that that allows you to buy some deals when you have some tougher brands like stilanis right now It's it's tough for it hasn't been the hottest deal out there You know, we're mainly generator motors, but we have a Nissan store a Hyundai store"
This sounds like a misheard “General Motors” reference. They’re basically saying their main brand lineup is from that group, plus a couple other brands.
“Generator motors” likely refers to General Motors, but the transcript is unclear. The speaker is describing their main brand focus and contrasting it with other brands they also carry.
Hyundai
"We're mainly generator motors, but we have a Nissan store a Hyundai store um, and We're also not in markets where we're where we have a ton of traffic"
They mention Hyundai as another brand they sell. The mix of brands can change how competitive the dealership has to be.
Hyundai is referenced as another brand in the dealership group’s portfolio. The speaker is using brand mix to explain why competition and deal-making can vary by market.
traffic
"We're also not in markets where we're where we have a ton of traffic columbus indiana might have 60 000 people Now there's 150 if you certainly could include the surrounding areas"
Traffic here means how many people are around to potentially buy cars. If there aren’t many people, the dealership has to work harder to attract customers.
Here, “traffic” means customer footfall or local buyer activity—how many potential customers are in the dealership’s area. Lower traffic forces the dealership to be more competitive to generate enough deals to hit targets.
F&I products
"But now they like because the pigs extra pay now But we would exclude and as this car. So if somebody came in about a 3500 dollar 250 000 mile as his car beater off the back of the lot That didn't go in our finance number and today I just told you Every deal if we deliver it and it's a retail deal every deal counts"
F&I products are the extra plans and protections sold after the car sale, usually by the finance manager. They can add cost to the deal but also cover repairs or losses.
In dealership finance, “F&I products” are the optional add-ons sold through the finance office, such as service contracts and other vehicle protection products. These are often what the pay plan and penetration metrics are designed to increase.
auditing
"We are auditing. We do a menu audit every single week Okay, and the reality is now I have luckily my team has stepped up."
Auditing here means checking the dealership’s process to make sure the finance team is doing what they’re supposed to do. It’s a way to catch missed steps.
In this context, auditing means systematically reviewing finance processes and deal documentation to confirm the dealership is following its standards. Here, it’s tied to ensuring the full F&I “menu” is presented to customers.
menu audit
"We are auditing. We do a menu audit every single week Okay, and the reality is now I have luckily my team has stepped up. I haven't had to do this"
A menu audit is a check to make sure the finance person offers all the add-on protection options. It helps prevent missed opportunities to sell those plans.
A menu audit is an internal process where the dealership checks whether the finance managers are presenting the full “menu” of F&I products to customers (like service contracts and other protection products). The goal is to ensure every eligible deal gets the full opportunity to include those products.
VSC
"[2449.0s] As a matter of fact, but it's non-negotiable. It's a non-negotiable [2452.9s] The vsc is the thing that keeps on giving I think that's the most important product in the entire arsenal that [2458.7s] drives the biggest reward value to the customer service retention [2462.9s] Everything right?"
VSC stands for a Vehicle Service Contract. It’s like an extended warranty that helps pay for certain repairs after the original warranty runs out. Dealers like it because it can be a steady, profitable add-on.
VSC usually refers to a Vehicle Service Contract, which is an extended warranty–style product sold by dealerships. It’s meant to cover certain repair costs after the factory warranty ends, and dealers often treat it as a high-margin, repeatable profit source.
customer service retention
"[2452.9s] The vsc is the thing that keeps on giving I think that's the most important product in the entire arsenal that [2458.7s] drives the biggest reward value to the customer service retention [2462.9s] Everything right?"
Customer service retention means getting customers to keep using the dealership for maintenance and repairs. If a warranty-style product covers repairs, it can encourage customers to return for service.
Customer service retention refers to keeping customers coming back for service work after the purchase. Dealerships often connect products like VSC to retention because covered repairs can drive repeat visits to the service department.
menu 100 pay plan
"[2462.9s] Everything right? [2464.4s] All right, so I think we're getting that so menu 100 pay plan anything else for us on that [2470.5s] I'm digging deep because I think this is good. No, so um"
“Menu 100 pay plan” sounds like a specific way the dealership sets up bonuses for the finance team. It likely ties pay to hitting certain targets and selling certain add-ons, but the exact meaning depends on the dealership’s system.
“Menu 100 pay plan” appears to be dealership internal compensation terminology for structuring incentives around specific product “menu” items and targets (the “100” typically representing a baseline or threshold). Without more context, it’s best understood as a specific F&I pay-plan format used by the store.
front gross
"[2507.1s] Because we have that flexibility now not everything is listened. It's not all rainbows and unicorns [2511.7s] We are now i'm fighting the battle in some areas that well our front gross has gone sideways [2517.0s] Because we're putting it all in the back. That's unhealthy. We don't want that [2520.9s] We want the guaranteed gross of the front. Um, but we're working through those things, but would I take a $250 lower"
Front gross is the money the dealer makes on the car’s sale price itself. If a store shifts too much profit to the “back end,” it can mean the front-end deal is less healthy or less sustainable.
Front gross is the profit (gross margin) made on the vehicle sale itself—typically from the difference between what the dealer pays for the car and what it sells for. The speaker contrasts it with back-end profit, implying a strategy shift that can affect overall dealership health.
back end
"[2511.7s] We are now i'm fighting the battle in some areas that well our front gross has gone sideways [2517.0s] Because we're putting it all in the back. That's unhealthy. We don't want that [2520.9s] We want the guaranteed gross of the front. Um, but we're working through those things, but would I take a $250 lower"
Back end is the extra money a dealer makes after the car sale, often from add-ons and finance products. Dealers try to balance it with the profit they make on the car price itself.
“Back end” refers to profit made after the vehicle sale, usually from finance and insurance products (like VSC/extended coverage, GAP, and other add-ons) rather than the car’s base price. Dealerships often manage the balance between front-end and back-end gross to protect volume and profitability.
guaranteed gross
"[2517.0s] Because we're putting it all in the back. That's unhealthy. We don't want that [2520.9s] We want the guaranteed gross of the front. Um, but we're working through those things, but would I take a $250 lower [2528.8s] Front end gross to have a seven or eight hundred dollar higher back end and run that risk of the guaranteed gross versus are we padding pay plans?"
Guaranteed gross means the dealer expects to make that profit for sure from the car deal itself. The speaker is saying it’s risky to count on add-ons alone to make up the difference.
Guaranteed gross is the portion of profit the dealership expects to secure reliably from the front-end deal (vehicle pricing), as opposed to profit that depends on selling additional products. In the transcript, it’s used to argue against relying too heavily on back-end sales.
F&I comp
"Does restructuring that f and i comp is that has that changed the talent pipeline for you? ... so you got to get really creative and it's not just a matter of overpaying ... because of comp still has to line up. So what we did"
In dealerships, “F&I” is the finance-and-add-ons part of the sale (like loans and extras). “Comp” means pay—so “F&I comp” is how that team gets paid, usually based on how much profit they bring in.
“F&I comp” refers to the compensation plan for the Finance and Insurance (F&I) department, typically tied to how much profit the dealership generates from add-ons and finance products. Restructuring it can change how sales managers and F&I teams prioritize leads, training, and deal structure.
talent pipeline
"Does restructuring that f and i comp is that has that changed the talent pipeline for you? Is it made it easier on the sales manager..."
A “talent pipeline” is just the process a company uses to find people, train them, and move them into better roles. Here, they’re talking about how pay and structure affect where good employees come from.
“Talent pipeline” is a business term for the system a company uses to recruit, develop, and promote employees over time. In a dealership context, it often means how you find and train sales and F&I staff to staff stores—especially when expanding into smaller markets.
sales manager hire
"to the sales manager hire so We are a collection of Smaller stores with the exception of two ..."
This segment discusses hiring and staffing decisions for sales managers, which can affect how stores run day-to-day and how teams execute the dealership’s compensation and performance strategy.
Chevy of Indianapolis
"... we have one metro store Which is this leo chevy of indianapolis and then our stoop's buick gmc store ..."
They’re pointing out a Chevrolet dealership in Indianapolis. It’s a brand-specific store, which can affect what vehicles they sell and how the team is set up.
The speaker calls out a “metro store” described as “Chevy of Indianapolis,” which indicates a Chevrolet-branded dealership location. Brand/franchise identity matters because it shapes inventory, marketing, and sales staffing.
Buick GMC
"... and then our stoop's buick gmc store in muncie has been a juggernaut in the state"
That phrase means the dealership sells both Buick and GMC vehicles. It’s about which car brands that store is allowed to sell.
The transcript references a dealership described as a “Buick GMC store,” which is a brand pairing indicating the franchises sold at that location. This helps listeners understand why different stores may have different sales volumes and staffing needs.
GMCS
"We sold 97 cars their last month 52 new chevy and gmcs Wow"
“GMC” is a brand that makes trucks and SUVs. Here, they’re just listing how many of those vehicles they sold.
“GMCS” is used as shorthand for GMC, General Motors’ truck/SUV brand. In this context it indicates the dealership’s new-vehicle sales mix (Chevrolet and GMC).
Chevy
"We sold 97 cars their last month 52 new chevy and gmcs Wow"
“Chevy” is just a common nickname for Chevrolet. They’re saying they sold a lot of new Chevrolet vehicles that month.
The speaker mentions “52 new Chevy and GMCS,” using “Chevy” as shorthand for Chevrolet. It’s a brand reference indicating the mix of new vehicles sold that month, not a specific model.
smaller stores
"Smaller stores are a hell of a lot harder to run than big stores ... trying to drive talent there and stuff to do ..."
They’re saying small dealerships can be tougher to manage than large ones. With fewer customers and fewer people, it’s harder to keep everything running smoothly.
The hosts discuss how “smaller stores” are harder to run than “big stores,” which is a business/operations concept tied to staffing depth, lead volume, and the ability to specialize roles. In dealership groups, this often affects how compensation and hiring strategies are designed.
desk managers
"I changed sales managers paid plan. I took desk managers that were Struggling to cover draw or getting small bonuses"
A “desk manager” is a manager who helps run the sales process behind the scenes—making sure deals get put together and finalized correctly. Their job is usually tied to the dealership’s deal numbers, not just greeting customers.
“Desk managers” are dealership managers who run the sales desk process—often overseeing deal structure, pricing, and the paperwork flow that turns customer conversations into finalized transactions. They’re typically measured on how well they manage profitability and throughput rather than just walk-in sales.
draw
"I took desk managers that were Struggling to cover draw or getting small bonuses and we were you know monthly like giving them little bonuses just to keep them happy"
A “draw” is like getting paid ahead of time based on expected future sales. If you don’t make enough commission later, you may have to make up the difference.
A “draw” is an advance against future commissions—employees receive money up front, and later commissions are used to pay back that advance. If the employee doesn’t earn enough commission to cover the draw, the draw can become a shortfall the employee must overcome.
sales manager pay plan
"Since first of the year we did we kind of did all of this when I changed finance plan I changed sales managers paid plan... So what we did was we we dumbed the sales manager pay plan down"
A “sales manager pay plan” is how the dealership decides how sales managers get paid. It can be adjusted to reward different parts of the deal, like pushing more profitable finance add-ons.
A “sales manager pay plan” is the compensation formula for sales managers, typically mixing base pay with commission tied to dealership metrics. The segment describes changing it to reduce reliance on one component and increase emphasis on finance-related profitability.
variable gross
"So what we did was we we dumbed the sales manager pay plan down Put a put an aggressive finance pay in place. So now everybody's pay plan has two portions They're all paid on total variable gross"
Dealers often pay employees partly with commission. “Variable gross” is basically the part of the deal’s profit that can go up or down depending on the numbers of that specific sale.
“Variable gross” refers to profit/commissionable gross that changes with the deal outcome, rather than a fixed salary amount. In dealership pay plans, variable gross is often used as the base for commissions so pay scales with how much money the store makes on each transaction.
phone transfers
"[2786.1s] You've you you were talking about how you were building a system around phone transfers and hold times [2791.0s] And I think the scenario you'd laid out you talked about service drop off no call back for transfers dead end"
Phone transfers are when you call a dealership and they move you to another person or department. Too many transfers can mean you wait longer or get bounced around.
“Phone transfers” are when an inbound caller is moved from one department/agent to another. In dealership call flows, excessive transfers can create dead ends and increase hold times, hurting the customer experience.
hold times
"[2801.4s] In fact the cdk stat that I keep coming back to is the average hold time in service is nine minutes [2807.0s] Which is insane every time I say it people say that can't possibly be true."
Hold time is how long a customer has to wait on the phone. If it’s too long, people get frustrated and may not book service.
“Hold times” are the amount of time callers wait on the phone before reaching a person or department. In service departments, long hold times can hurt customer satisfaction and reduce appointments and call conversions.
CDK
"[2807.0s] Which is insane every time I say it people say that can't possibly be true. You look behind the curtains. It is true [2813.0s] Um, what what are you actually doing to fix that problem?"
CDK is a company that makes software dealerships use to run things like scheduling and service. When someone cites a “CDK stat,” they mean a benchmark pulled from that software ecosystem.
CDK is a major provider of dealership software used for operations like scheduling, service workflows, and customer/vehicle data. Dealership operators often cite CDK-reported benchmarks because it aggregates usage across many stores.
service bdc
"[2843.9s] If you're calling the schedule service, they will schedule for you right there [2847.2s] So it's sort of a service bdc, but it's not then if you say I need to speak with somebody in sales"
A “service BDC” (Business Development Center) is a call-handling team/process that routes inbound service calls, helps schedule appointments, and transfers callers to the right department. The goal is to reduce missed calls and improve scheduling speed.
triage the call
"[2852.6s] They'll sort of triage the call make sure they get it to the right location the right department [2858.3s] Um short of calling and saying hey, I need to speak with scott far and they just you know call comes straight to me"
“Triage the call” means quickly sorting inbound calls by need and urgency, then routing them to the correct department or person. In dealership phone systems, it’s used to prevent misrouting and reduce time-to-schedule.
phone system
"So we started looking at technologies that we thought could eliminate some of these connectors to our phone system [2900.8s] And accomplish the same thing like capturing the phone number"
They mean the dealership’s phone setup—how calls get routed to the right place. It also covers what happens if a call can’t be answered right away.
They’re talking about the dealership’s call-routing and communications setup that handles incoming calls to stores and departments. In practice, this includes how calls are captured, transferred, and handled when nobody answers.
voicemail
"Um ensuring a smooth transfer and if an answer call doesn't get answered rather than going to a voicemail [2912.0s] That it bounces back if that's what we wanted to do"
Voicemail is what you get when nobody answers your call and you leave a recorded message. They’re saying they want a better option than just sending people to voicemail.
Voicemail is the recorded message system callers use when a call isn’t answered. The speaker is discussing alternatives to voicemail—like bouncing the call back—so customers don’t get stuck waiting or left without a response.
call center
"I mean our call center [2924.5s] 16 members we take about 20,000 calls a month [2928.9s] Um incoming and that's a lot for six people"
A call center is a group of people who answer customer calls. It’s basically the dealership’s phone support team, often handling many calls at once.
A call center is a centralized team and phone infrastructure that handles large volumes of customer calls. Here, they mention staffing and call volume to explain why call handling and transfer quality matters.
nine-minute wait time period
"I'm really shocked by your number nine minutes like [2940.8s] I'm personally I'm not holding on the phone for nine minutes to talk. ... [2975.7s] Not only avoid the nine-minute wait time period but get proactive at reaching out"
They’re talking about how long customers have to wait on the phone before someone answers. The longer the wait, the more likely customers get upset and don’t get their problem handled.
This refers to the customer experience metric of how long callers wait before reaching a person. In dealership service, long waits can increase frustration and reduce the chance of resolving the customer’s issue quickly.
service advisors
"[2982.4s] Fair start. I don't think that the advisors our service advisors certainly don't want to not answer the phone."
Service advisors are the people you talk to at the dealership when you need service. They help set up the repair and keep you updated, including answering questions by phone.
Service advisors are the dealership staff members who interact with customers about vehicle service—writing up work orders, explaining recommendations, and coordinating with the service department. Their ability to answer calls and communicate affects customer experience and shop throughput.
AI
"So I would say [2998.6s] You know, we're probably behind the eight ball on AI, but we're slow walking it [3003.1s] For the right reasons."
They mean using artificial intelligence to help run parts of the dealership—like handling customer calls or messages. They’re saying they’re testing it first so it doesn’t cause problems.
They’re talking about using AI in dealership operations, likely for things like answering calls, routing leads, or automating parts of customer communication. The point is that they’re being cautious and “slow walking” adoption rather than jumping in immediately.
Mia
"[3094.5s] No doubt. Um, and there's some out there that are probably better in certain areas than Mia. There are [3101.0s] But for us the holistic approach to what we're trying to solve"
“Mia” is mentioned as a company that some listeners may recognize in the dealership-tech space, but the transcript doesn’t provide enough detail to confirm what it refers to. It’s described as having strengths in certain areas and being part of a broader “holistic approach” to solving dealership problems.
inbound their text
"[3105.0s] um, their receptionist [3107.8s] tool their outbound calling [3110.0s] Uh, they're inbound their text. That's just the entire full suite of what they do."
“Inbound text” refers to customer messages that come to the dealership through texting channels. In sales and service, inbound texting is part of lead-response workflows—speed and consistency of replies can strongly affect whether a customer books an appointment.
outbound calling
"[3105.0s] um, their receptionist [3107.8s] tool their outbound calling [3110.0s] Uh, they're inbound their text. That's just the entire full suite of what they do."
“Outbound calling” is when the dealership proactively contacts leads or customers by phone, rather than waiting for them to call in. It’s commonly used for follow-ups, appointment setting, and re-engaging shoppers who haven’t responded yet.
phone tree
"[3181.2s] Thank you. Thank you [3183.0s] Kyle, how's your hold time by the way? What what do you think about hold sales service any issues there on the phones? [3190.4s] Yeah, so we have our phone tree set up a little differently. So we initially we"
A phone tree is the automated menu you hear when you call a business. It’s supposed to route you to the right place, but if it’s confusing or slow it can make people give up.
A “phone tree” is an automated call-routing system (often with menu options) that directs callers to the right department or person. Dealerships use it to reduce missed calls and improve response times, but poorly designed trees can increase customer frustration and call abandonment.
drop rate
"Identified that we were at like a 30 drop rate. So that's what we're seeing happening"
“Drop rate” here is basically how often callers don’t get through—either the call is missed or disconnected before someone answers. Dealers track it because it’s tied to lost leads.
In a dealership context, “drop rate” usually means the percentage of incoming calls that aren’t answered promptly (or get disconnected) before the customer reaches the right person. Lower drop rates generally indicate better phone coverage and faster routing to the correct department or advisor.
buying these stores
"Uh, so they they audit uh that some of that stuff and we got you know, and that's one of the things when you're buying these stores ... we have checks and balances for that process anytime we require a new store"
They’re talking about what it takes to run a dealership after you buy it. The idea is you can’t just open the doors—you have to set up the right systems and rules so the manufacturer is satisfied.
The speaker is referring to the operational requirements that come with acquiring dealership stores—meaning you must have certain processes and controls in place to meet brand/manufacturer standards. They mention “checks and balances” once a new store is required, implying standardized rollout and compliance.
CRM
"They don't work out of our crm. They work out of a dialer system"
CRM is a computer system dealerships use to keep track of customers and leads. It helps sales teams remember who they contacted and what happened next.
CRM means “customer relationship management,” software used to track leads, customer interactions, and sales activity. The speaker contrasts their dialer workflow with a CRM-based workflow for handling calls and notes.
dialer system
"They don't work out of our crm. They work out of a dialer system So as soon as they're as soon as they hang up a call the next call just comes onto their screen"
A dialer system is a tool that helps call agents place calls faster and stay on a steady call schedule. It can automatically line up the next person to call.
A dialer system is software that automatically places calls and manages call flow for agents. Here, it loads the next call quickly so agents can move through leads without manually switching screens or writing extensive notes between calls.
follow-up game
"But then 90 seconds of ending or so I would say that our follow-up game is probably I probably don't give it enough credit"
“Follow-up game” just means how good the dealership is at reaching out again after the first contact. If they follow up quickly and consistently, more people end up booking appointments.
“Follow-up game” is dealership sales slang for how consistently and quickly a team contacts leads after the first interaction. Strong follow-up typically improves appointment setting and conversion rates.
drop call
"But uh, I just know I'm a ultimate competitor. So, you know, kyle said he was at 12 drop call and that's 11 too better"
A drop call is when a call cuts out by itself. If you’re calling potential customers, it’s a problem because you lose the chance to talk to them.
A “drop call” is when a phone call disconnects unexpectedly before the conversation is finished. In lead calling, drop calls are costly because they reduce contact rates and can harm follow-up effectiveness.
sales managers
"Now, of course, we're still growing and kind of our rule and expectation is if you are our sales managers aren't managing our sales people Then unfortunately that task refalls onto the manager's tasks"
Sales managers are the people who run the dealership’s sales team. They make sure sales reps are working the leads and following the process.
“Sales managers” are dealership leaders responsible for overseeing the sales team’s day-to-day activity and performance. In this context, they’re accountable for managing salespeople and ensuring leads and processes are handled correctly.
checks and balances
"And so then they have a report that's sent out daily to see how our managers performed basically for not accounting their Sales people accountable. So we have a lot of checks and balances internally to manage those processes [...] not missing anything so to speak"
This means the dealership uses systems to double-check that people are doing the right things. It’s like having regular reviews so nothing important gets skipped.
In dealership operations, “checks and balances” are internal controls and routines designed to ensure processes are followed and performance is monitored. The goal is to reduce missed steps and hold teams accountable through frequent review.
car inventory
"uh Use car inventory and where you're buying. Yes, man. You are right about that. Yeah scott"
Car inventory is just the cars the dealership has available to sell. If they don’t have the right cars (or enough of them), it can hurt sales and profits.
“Car inventory” refers to the vehicles a dealership has on hand to sell. Inventory levels and sourcing strategy affect sales volume, pricing power, and how quickly the store can match customer demand.
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