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Alright on this episode of the podcast Magnus Walker is in studio

Homies cleaning out his closet his closet. It's just a little more interesting than yours

He gets to clean out his closet at Sotheby's

He's got a whole bunch of Porsches whole bunch of parts and he's over here telling some stories about his stuff

That you can take home the original urban outlaw Magnus Walker is in studio. It's the smoking tire podcast. Let's go. I

Had a motorcycle license I

Stupidly admittedly in dead stop traffic going south on the Braia tried to ride in between

The parked cars and and someone

Dored me. Oh

I don't know about you, but I'm on a record with my 991 outside. I'm now up to maybe six

punctures rocks

Yeah, last week was two weeks ago this time on a Friday in downtown LA

I get a knife blade maybe inch and a half

No way through the rear or three o'clock by purging square

God, and you know instantly zero tire pressure so I can't plug it won't hold air

So of course I got a cold triple a yeah get towed to downtown downtown LA Porsche. It's a seven hundred dollar tire

I bet it is some sort of like a run flat, too

Of course another run for the they don't stock them. So you got to order it. Are those is this your is this the

Largest rim size you've ever owned on a car. He's like 20s or 21. Yeah, that's exactly it

And even if you had the most punctures of any car you've ever whether it's a blade a knife a rock

I've probably literally had a half a dozen within one week. I had to left side was an inch and a half blade

Yeah, right side was a wood screw by the house in the hill. That's how so it's either potholes rocks

Yeah, or just debris screws. Well, I'll tell you what after is after the rains, too

After the rains, you know what happens like people who are doing like construction on their houses and shit, right?

It just floods screws and razor blades and whatever into the road. So annoying. Yeah, that's like, but I don't quite understand

It's not as if I'm driving that car more than any other car

But I've had a minimum of five if not six always on the rear never on this random luck for sure

But five or six others. I mean look mathematically is possible

It is possible that through sheer randomness that could happen unlikely somehow. It's not happening on the bench

But it's possible. Yeah, also the fact that is it even if even all of the things being equal the fact that it's the biggest rims

Wide is tires. I don't know that mathematically and stinky rubber. Just pick stuff up kicks it into that favor a little bit

Someone out there can make a chart for us. Yeah, we're green right Zach

We're green. We exist. Yeah, okay, cool. Hi

Magnus Walker the man and how

Just funny it's been I don't know a while since you were here, but I see you all I see you socially

So it doesn't feel like it and I just saw your your Hannah

Hannah Magnus and I have a matching Hannah's that's right

Different spelling that's a bit different different hair color. That's right. Otherwise identical. That's right

We just saw her at the ice race, unfortunately, we missed you

Yeah, I stayed back to you know to do the LA lit week all week

Oh, sure honey Porsche week. Yes, same thing some people some people came here

Some people like so annoyed that I wasn't here for this week for Porsche

Yeah, but to my other Miami people and whatever came yeah, but you have all the right winter hats

So I figured you would have been a shoe it. I'm a man of many many hats your coat your coats and your hats

Yeah, barn barn on they did seem to be a lot of fur on display up there

I don't think most of it was real to be fair

Okay, and and actually like what was really fun about about ice race costumes is you could either

Sort of go richy rich. Yeah, if you could afford it, you know, I could not or you could go

You know sort of the good wood vintage car theme which a lot of people did and the fact that it was a little warmer made

that a little easier or you could go like

I'm

Skiing an aspen in 1988. It's like neon. This is a good look. That was a good look to I really like that

So if you didn't have like a huge budget you could go crazy with the 1980

Which way were you going? Were you gentlemen or were you going more Radwood?

No, I kept it pretty normal puff a jacket

I have a I have a cool parka that's like a classic team Lotus that I got

At the Lotus factory a couple years ago. There it is

It's a good it's a good green and actually hat my Hannah was stoked on it because she could see me

She can find me really easy tonight in the crowd, you know, everybody was wearing those puffy blue fat jackets

You couldn't find anybody

Swag did you have fun out there? I really did dude. I really did as

you know contrived and

Pseudo-commercial and hoity-toity and high all of that. I thought it was really really fun

It was fun was had. Yeah, it was it was super fun. It was beautiful like we it was so nice people and you're there in the Manx

Yeah, and the Manx is a good time like close Philip won the weird game

I mean Phillips Manx. Did you see Phillips Manx? No, let's see it. His was the one that was turned into a snowmobile

Okay, I didn't realize that was his yeah, yeah, that was that's that's pretty much that's sort of James Bondi

It was very much like a like a bad guy

I mean it would make sense that he has make daddy Manx right funny that I didn't oh, yeah

I mean he oh why not why not if you can right if you own the company you must have the weirdest look at that

I mean, it's just that's like glorious. That is pretty cool. That is

Apparently drove weird

Like it's meant for 15 miles per hour slowly path through the woods not not the turns can't be too tight

I think if you were in like six inches of powder snow, it would probably actually drive pretty decent now

I heard they trucked in was it six six hundred truck fulls of snow or was it 60?

No, I so I didn't hear it in terms of trucks. I heard it in terms of gallons

How many gallons of snow point five million gallons of water to make the track

No, no way. Yeah, it's it was a lot 4.5 million

Well, I say that it's a lot meanwhile. I don't know how much it takes to make a ski slope

I don't know how much it takes to keep a golf course alive. Yeah, maybe that's a lot

Maybe it's not but it sounds like a fucking lot. It sounds like a lot of hydration

A lot and I mean look if you just look at the background of this photo like obviously there isn't enough snow

That whole back mountain should be sheer white. That's right. I mean the carparks that I saw were concrete, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so I mean it was look ultimately the the track lasted long enough

It did it did last to do the fact that it was warm meant like it was very pleasant

Got it to be day drinking outdoors. You know when you weren't driving

What's the alternative if you go to go to Canada or something? Well, yes, or Austria. Yeah, Iceland

I mean there's like what for for ice racing. Yeah, I think they do it. Yes

But um and this wasn't like serious this was like a caricature of ice racing kind of like

Real ice racing is like beat-up Subaru

Nobody's really watching

Drift wagons like got the boo

Yep, or I mean or even like most we went to like an actual sanctioned ice race and it was like

Non-turbo Subaru Impreza L's on like seven millimeter spikes. What was that?

Lake George, New York. Okay. Yeah, there's another event. We just learned about that happens two weeks

Before this one in Montana called the Frost and the Furious. Oh, there's actually there's some nice Porsche stuff there

Like there's but you can also just enter whatever for like 500 bucks for the weekend

Was that did that event spring up because?

Fat ice race was announced is coming to Montana or was that event happening already good question

There were some carry-over cars in some people went to both so it was the knock it was the first one

Yeah, the first one so maybe I thought I can't help but

Think that it was a more affordable alternative to two fat ice race

I mean, I think it's great. Is it anyone buy a ticket because the people I know that were buying tickets said it was kind of expensive

It was a couple of grand for a ticket a GA ticket was like 300 bucks. Okay VIP ticket was three grand Wow

Well, but you what what do you get VIP a lot so some swag and some fur

No, no look it was it was unlimited food and in my opinion the food was better than what you'd get it like quail and

Unlimited booze for all day both days VIP section which had a full like indoor area

If it happened to be really cold with the huge TVs and the full bar and all the spreads better bathrooms

I mean it was

It was expensive, but like

Compared to

You know divided in half because one day for half that for quail

I think you got I think this was a better use of that same money than going to the quail

So what I'm here is good is quail on ice

It's smaller. It's like well like ten years ago. Got it like like old it's all old fucking quail

There's one VIP tent not four or five

I mean if there's four or five VIP tents are they really VIPs? I mean international food

Um and it was I just thought it was a good time like hanging out with friends in a cool scenery with you

Got a lot of motor sport happening in the background. It's like assembling some motors

But did you fly from there to the Aston Martin thing? No, I came home for I came home

I was home for like a minute. Yeah, so you did the Aston thing first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we did the Aston thing here a second

So you came back here then went back to you. Oh my god, it was bouncing around. Yeah

How are you feeling fuzzy a little bit? Yeah, it's like you're in the twilight Friday. No, it's it's all good, dude

But I want to talk about your fucking the Magnus Walker

Estate sale while I'm still alive. Yeah, the estate sale. No is I mean

It's kind of crazy like usually like people have to sell shit on Facebook marketplace or whatever

They don't they don't get to go to Sotheby's does that is that feel that you're your car your shit goes to RM

You know these choices, right could have gone to Craigslist

I mean, I've been letting things go quietly over the past few years that people don't know about

I'm in my letting things go phase

You know, I'm sure you've thought about spring cleaning

You close it or your garage right and you put it off you put it off and find that you go in and you just start throwing stuff behind you

Yeah

And then there's a moment when you look at the pile and you go should I get rid of that and then the smart party brain goes

Just throw it in the black plastic bag and take it to Goodwill. Yeah, have you been in have you been there?

I have so that's where I'm at

You know, it's taken time for me to get to this point of letting things go and it's sort of a decluttering of my soul my mind the space

Literally creating space for other things to come in first of all. I'm not selling everything. Yeah, I'm selling 18 cars and keeping 15

So people think I'm selling everything. That's not the case

I'm keeping that is more than 50% though. Yeah, if you do the math 18 are being sold 15 are being kept

So more than half. Yeah, maybe it's 60%

Yeah, and it's things that you know, I've owned and amassed going back to 2008 910

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I'm a goal-oriented collector. So these things, you know scratch this edge of experiencing diversity within portion

Yeah, some of them you click more than others, you know

Some of them are mildly modified some of them are not modified at all. Some of them are more significant

Ultimately the ones that I feel really connected to are the ones that I'm keeping

And the ones that I'm letting go are the ones interestingly

I really like the blue turbo the blue turbo turbo is a gorgeous. I associate that car pretty closely with you

Yeah, the blue turbo is my Subaru special as you can see in subi colors

That car is pretty unique. I acquired that in 2013

That is the original first set of outlaw wheels click on that

So that's the car we debuted the outlaw wheel on in 2014 and that's the very first set of outlaw wheels ever made

But at one time I owned seven three liter turbos

I was acquiring them when they were really affordable and no two do the same thing the same way. They're all same

But different, you know, and this one's nice. It's rowdy, but I'm keeping the other 76

Which is the first us production turbo sold which color is that the silver the first one I bought

It's the first us production turbo ever sold looks just like that

But it's silver, but that one's a euro turbo sunroof delete

It's got a rarely late hula gonna exhaust on it with it being a euro turbo. It's a little bit more power

It's a good color combo. Yeah, I mean I really I really just like that that early

I'm not personally into early turbos. I don't even really like any of the turbos except until you get to like

89 with a five speed. They're just not my vibe

Mainly because of the four speeds. Yeah box, but uh, but this one the color combo brings me around

This is interesting because it's been repainted in a slightly different shade of the original maneuver blue

But it's a swiss delivery car with a white interior

So you go swiss is normally sort of reserved, right?

You know in today's world those are not the original seats

But I changed those because the original white seats were just too much

But if you think about today's world of if you scroll through the photos of it

About people getting all excited about paint to sample color combos

You know this maneuver blue with a white interior is kind of an oddball color

For a generation when paint to sample wasn't the big deal that it is now

A full white interior in 76 in switzerland in switzerland

Means cocaine and skiing. Yeah skiing. I mean this is the fat ace

Ice race car circuit 1976. Oh, this would be this. Oh, that's awesome. This is uh, yeah

I mean the interesting thing about white seats is it come with the white seats the white seats

The interesting thing about this car though is if you go to that shot on the sixth street bridge

One of my favorite larry chen shots right there

Or the one one next to it. That's actually a shot from 2014 when we debuted the wheels

And to me larry chen. Yeah. Well, that's the old sixth street bridge not even the new one. Yeah. Yeah

But that car to me doesn't look 50 years old. It's like a timeless silhouette

Yeah, I mean it helps that like that's sort of the beginning of the bumper style that went on for the next, you know, 13 years

Yeah, that g body, you know, the turbo came out in 75

I used to have two of those and continue to 89 and didn't really look any different other than people getting excited about

Oh, it's got a five speed. I did I the once I drove an 89 with a five speed. I was like, oh, this is my shit right here

I mean the Achilles hill with these early cars is as you know, tall gear ratios. Yeah first gear is 50 seconds like 90

thirds 120 and first and for me personally

something

Pardon the pun grinds my gears about downshifting to first yeah, you gotta do that all the time

I know it's fucking weird in any other 9 11 you rolling into a turn at 20 in second

Let's say flip the throttle give it a bit of gas clutch in and away you go in this you got to go to first gear

So you got to recalibrate all your driving style

So imagine you're on the freeway doing 60 and you happen to be in fourth, right?

Like 2000 rpm miles away from any boost. Yeah

In the 930 what you got to do is you go to second gear on the freeway 60

Now does that seem awkward? Yes. It's so strange. So if you want to have any

Resemblance of acceleration. Yeah, you cannot short shift in these cars alloy roof had this very same conversation in 1985

He went, you know, well, he has to fight a big problem. Yeah

He was the first first did the five speed right and then the six feet with the yellow bird

Because it's a gear ratios is the one yeah to the boost comes on way late and it's a short window of boost

Yeah, they're done at 5500 like 6000 rpm. You're done like a diesel and then yeah

And then you sort of factor in inadequate brakes because he's a non-power assisted brakes. Yeah, so they're they're a handful

You really have to think if you want to make

Hey and actually have fun in an early turbo the keys just don't short shift and look ahead right

That's the key the motors are like they'll take the revs though. They're they're stout

Yeah, I mean it's interesting that Porsche put a four speed in it because he's plenty of 300 horsepower 911s with a 915

Yeah, so it's not as if uh, this four speed transmission couldn't handle more power

And they do kind of feel heavy and sluggish and tracked to light when you're off boost

Why did they was there a was there a performance decision for it? Why do you think?

I think Porsche back in the day thought they were going to be having transmission issues with this amount of power

Yeah

But obviously that's not really the case still that color combo fucking rocks on one of these

And it has like like it's been lowered. It's got a wider wheel on it. Those are eights and nines

You know the stance is good on that car sidewalls kind of heavy steering because you got wide wheels and uh, of course

Yeah, you know that's a little smaller steering wheel. Yeah, that's probably had a real big steering wheel on it back in the day

That's got a 350 millimeter steering wheel on it. What's your is that your preferred diameter for 9 11s?

You put that on all of them pretty much because that's sort of the momo pro tipo

Like to me three 70s too big and you want something like a mod seven's the perfect wheel because he's got the dish on it

Or you got to put a hub extender on it to get the wheel away from the dash

The mod seven is just the proto tipo with like a bit of offset deep dish, right? Yeah, exactly. Is that what's on this one?

I think that's what's on this one. Go go back and see what's on it. I think I did the

Proto tipo with the offset hub. Yeah, that's the way to go with the space. Yeah, so

The 18 cars break down to eight nine elevens two parts cars and then eight transaxle cars

All right, you're getting rid. Do you keeping any transaxle cars? I'm keeping my 924 career GT. Okay. That's a good one

I'm keeping my first 928 which is a 78

So I'm keeping cars that are significant to me. Yeah, I'm keeping the art cars the 964 993 277

914

Okay. Oh, yeah, that's the offset wheel. That's what so yeah good good choice

um

is

Would you do do you say never say never do you say permanent collection about it only just the 277, right?

Yeah, definitely maybe yeah, I mean for me, you know, it's when I look at this wall

Part of one of the things I've realized is if you go up, I've got a lot of silver cars

You know if you look here one two three go down

four

Yeah, five

I think these six silver cars like how did I end up with all these silver cars?

You know, so now I'm starting to look for you know, you let things go and I'm already thinking, you know, I've never owned a 356

You know, I wish it was a joke. I wasn't probably should yeah, you probably should have that

I think you could so this is a possible upward consolidation. I don't even know what upward consolidation

That's when you sell fucking 18 cars and buy one super banger

No, no, no, no, it's never gonna be that. You know, I'm still the boggin hunter

You know, that's probably how you've ended up with all the silver cars. Sure if if the price is better than the color

That's how you end up with silver cars. I've never chased color

I chase cars and if they come in color, you know, like that 924 turbo

Click on that one, but you also change color

Yeah, I mean, I had my own personality to it

But that car's bone stock the way it left the factory and it's got a pasture interior

I like the posh interior. Yeah, I mean that's sort of a uniquely pretty much the only thing I like about a 924 turbo

But respect 924 944 the best of the bunch I've discovered is a 968

Three-liter bigger engine more bottom end less rathley better build quality the end of the era more

993 compared to yeah, they're not they're pretty nice

Although I drove I you know in germany when I went on the

Launch of something they let us drive some classic stuff from their museum and I drove a 968 cab

Oh, okay, and it was a it felt real heavy. Yeah, but I imagine it was probably 500 pounds heavier than the coop and

I do like a 968 though those club sports. Well, that's the one to get the club for one of those rare turbo s's

Yeah, so one was cropping up on a million today

Yeah, you know the claim or someone was hinting around that that uh, I guess they made 15 of them the turbo s

Was estimated a million bucks from 960 out of here. No, thanks

These are all no

These are all no reserve. So, you know, this could be a bargain full no reserve

This is how committed I am to letting things go

I love the no reserve when people put a reserve on something to me

It says I'll let it go at this price which means they're not fully committed unless it achieves a certain price

I tell people this because we we help people sell their cars here. Sorry. Yeah, Dave was down there doing one

And we and we got a we got a really cool. We got actually a few going right now

um

We uh, I people are always like what should I do for reserve what should you for reserve and I go look if if

If you put a reserve and the auction ends and it doesn't we do everything right, but it doesn't hit reserve

Are you happy because you didn't have to take a low number or are you annoyed?

Right, you didn't let it go because the car was mentally gone and now it's still here, right?

Nine times out of ten they go i'm annoyed. I go then let's go no reserve

We're gonna make that we're gonna get you market price. We're gonna get eyeballs on this thing

As best we can and and you'll get and the car will be gone

Yeah, I mean that's how these are these have got an estimate based on market price

Sure

So there's sort of a price point out of those 18 cars for everyone whether it's an entry level let's say 944

Na or whether it's a gt2

The sort of the spectrum of entry level versus non entry level

I thought I thought maybe the gt2

996 might be a keeper that one uh that one didn't do a long term tickle your fancy

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It's it's almost go to that car because I think what it is is it's too nice for me. Sure

It's in too good a condition. It's a lifelong la car

I'm the third owner. It had never been out of la other than the wheels that are on it

Which are not stock. It's all original. I have never modified it the interesting thing about this car is

25 years ago. This was king of the hill 992 gt 2 454 horsepower. Yeah, 996 gt2

Porsche like that for the usa they only made 184 of them. Yeah 184. There's more corroded gts out there than gt2's

But for some reason, you know, it's a great daily and what staggering to me is 454 horsepower two-wheel drive manual, right?

Today you can get a 992 gt2 c2. Yeah manual with about the same horsepower, right? Yeah, which is one step above entry level

In the Porsche world range of flavor

But on a car that's probably 400 pounds heavier

And uh and with more sophisticated electronics. These things are pretty raw dog rad. Yeah, these these things ripped

I'm surprised. They're very fast estimate for this auction. It's like 125 to 150. I just think like

That seems low. That seems low for how rare

So does it have a lot of miles on it? It's got 90,000 miles on it. Oh, that's why I mean that's like

Not that that's like, you know, that just affects it, but I love that it's black tail

Well, if you look at the interior that peanut butter leather interior. It's fabulous every single thing

The cd cover vents the ac vents even check out the headliner

The headliner is leather. Yeah, everything on that car is leather interior

So it's actually a pretty well option three on a car

It's a really cool car. I mean look if someone

The the good thing about this is

I mean, I you're lucky lucky you because of the car's connection to you now and it happens to be a super cool combo

like

The the the story outweighs the mileage and you could get a relative bargain

Yeah, you know compared to some museum grade

Things I mean to me mileage is irrelevant. The perfect example is the car I drove here

Almost 206,000 miles. I think it's a 205 8 8 6 or something

And I bought that with 159,000 miles on it

So to me the value is on a high mileage car because the majority of people don't want a high mileage car

And usually one of these gets to high mileage is because a a fastidious owner is you're not buying a fucking gt2

Look at the canadian putting 60,000 miles on it without servicing it

Look at the canadian guy who's got a million kilometers on his 76 turbo. Yeah, I've read that about that guy. I've met it

Million kilometers by my mouth. That's like 700,000 miles

So 90,000 miles on this is like nothing the only I mean

The I the doesn't the powertrain all that shit doesn't bother me at all

The only thing for me. I have a sensitive fucking back. So I need a good seat. I need like a nice newish

Seat otherwise it hurts the drive. Well, that's what I keep going back to this 991. I'm like a broken record with it

Hannah and I drove it to Denver for Christmas. Yeah, that's five states. It's 1,050 miles in one day

We didn't get out of that the back wasn't aching knees weren't numb ears weren't ringing 18 ways they hold up

18 ways or I wouldn't want to do that in the 996 gt3

Yeah, no thousand miles in a day. No, you kind of feel a little beat up right away

So Zach and I did it in uh in the uh the turn the 992 turbo s also and that's that's a new one the hybrid

No, we did it in the one the dot one but same seats. Yeah, great

If you to dot two that might as well be a Bentley that shit is have you driven that yet? I have it's I mean it's heavy

But as a long feels heavy, but as a road tripper

The suspension is fabulous. The turbo s is the swiss army knife of all 9 11. I really think it's all you need

But the new one is heavy

They all seem pretty heavy

It's like I can get out of my 991 as much as I love it and then I get in something like this

Yeah, and it's really apparent how heavy that is. Yeah, so you just have to go back

You go backwards from any 9 11 to any previous 9 11 you go. Oh, they've gotten heavy

Yeah, and well you go back to this generation 996 and they look really compact. Yeah

Like you look at 991s now

992s gt2s gt3s the big wide bulky big wings big diffusers splitters aero

All this stuff that doesn't make you any faster on the street

Right where most of them spend their time

Yeah, and then you go to this and it comes back to well the road determines the ultimate speed, right?

I mean for yeah for most cars from there. There is a there is like a moral and you know

General limit of what you should be doing on the street

My point being is

454 horsepower here in the gt2 versus 701

No, you're not going much faster in the new car on the road. The new car's got 50 more power

It's not going 50 percent quicker on the road. No, no, no, no, certainly. Maybe 10 15 20 max. It's probably what is the uh

What was the nerberg ring time of this gt2? Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it was something very impressive for 2002

Yeah, like it came in gt4l spanking. Yeah, it must have been it must have been like mid sevens

Maybe like it's great how we all go back to the benchmark of the ring, right as a lap time

This well because I know the new turbo s is I think a 704

See there's 704 714. I think it's 704 is the new turbo s

But I'm curious how much faster it is than this. It's got I think this was 746

Yeah, that sounds right. This might have been exciting when they broke eight minutes

Oh, I'm sure it was and I because the new gt2 rs beat it big beat this by a full minute. Wow

What what did the 918 do at the nova ring?

This oh, I think the 918 was the first car to ever go under seven

I think it was 657. Yep. Wow. That's quick. What a courage. I just I just reviewed that car recently

Carrera G. Oh was set like 720 or something like that

But I think someone recently did a career gt 12

Someone recently did a career gt on the brand new tire. Oh, sorry 712 was the new record with york driving on new tires

The new record on on the 9 9 on the career gt. Okay. Okay. Yeah york bergmeister career gt new tires back in the day

It did 728. Yeah. Wow

So a little faster than this, but dude tires 728 to 712. That's that's a big difference. Um

But uh, you know, I I agree that they're there for the for all the differences on the track

Most of them don't come into play on the road. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

And most of these cars they'll spend the majority of the time here. I think on the street

Sure, and I saw I saw you comment that up by gt3 rs post

They still don't you know, neither of us love that as a street car

No, that's that's a classic case of me of too much of a race car for the street

Yeah, but you know what you go out to the fucking those private racetracks. You go to thermal them guys love those things

They even they love them because they want their track car to feel familiar like a street car

race cars

Even for someone like me when I got it I get to the the rare treat to test like someone's like lamont car or something

It's a real treat, but that shit that feels like alien shit

It doesn't next level when you start driving and you go, okay pedals and steering wheel and you know

The rest are just sort of buttons that drop going to the all right fine

But like you it's intimidating to get into a race car

It's a different mindset come whereas a gt3 rs

Even if you're putting the helmet on and going to the track, it's you know, key

Air conditioning

Yeah, you know and then and then you know, you you can drive it into dinner

It's related into palm spray. I think there's a set and setting thing

Like if you took the gt3 and stripped the interior and gave it to somebody to track same exact car

Hardware engine everything you've just described a club sport. I bet what mean no no cage or nothing

I think they would probably get nervous and think oh, I'm in a different car. Yeah a special thing

But it's it's just the interior like makes them feel like they're at home in a normal vehicle

Well, like gt4 club sports like have

Factory air conditioning like the factory key factory gauge cluster like they're so they're designed to feel as much as possible

like a stock car and

I think that's about as I mean that or like a

Even a me a me a meata's got a sequential now like even a mx5 cup as a squid. I think that's probably the most

For giving of the track day maybe the the mustang the new mustang the dark horse

No, no that well the gtd's um

Is a is a big bet you just like race cars the dark horse are

Is very approachable and friendly and it's like even easier to set it to do things with than the street car like

Auto rev matching is like a giant toggle switch on off like it's very very straightforward

It's guys kind of racing with that is kind of all right. Anyway, dark horse. Um musting

What was the last mustang you drove?

Oh boy, I don't remember

Hannah didn't bring home a gtd for work. No, she hadn't had one yet. Oh, I'm surprised and we've been around

You know my my buddy cam ingrams racing with uh ford mustang with jim fallow. He's that's dog. Yeah, he's racing that's what they're driving

Yeah, and he loves it, you know completely different to when he's you know going up pike speaking his Porsche

But there that I actually drove jim's dark horse for rodentrack. I drove his personal car. It's incredibly friendly

He seems a very very cool down the earth dude. Oh jim. Yeah, yeah, he is I meant the car

But also jim is but as a person he's he's he's he's pretty approachable and he's pretty mellow

Yeah, I see pretty well

You know we were just at at obviously an ice race and we went to rivian's party

and

You know no judgment just pure facts. Um rj scurringe that see you have had like

private security with him

At the party and I was like, okay, I guess you know whatever but like

Jim jim doesn't right. We were I was in a thing with jim were for like hours that the public could just get into like

If he did they were the most invisible scary I've ever seen but I don't think he did

I guess rivian's at a different level. I don't know

What was his security wearing the fat jacket over the inferral or just the no, it was

You know it was uh, it was like athletic wear turtle neck athletic wear

So they're in lycra. Is that what you're saying?

No, no, it was like in clothes, but I wouldn't fuck with these. Yeah, fanny pack earpiece. Oh

Fanny pack earpiece. That's that's pretty good luck. So what you have to do next?

We're going sailing bro. Mm-hmm this weekend. Yeah, we're leaving sunday night. Well, yeah, british virgin islands

We rented a boat you're all there going sailing british virgin island

How big of a boat is it a ship? No, it's a 50 foot catamaran

It's us and our ladies and my sister-in-law and our friend tim. How long are you on the water for nine days?

How far offshore are you going not that far? It's a couple small pretty small boobing of islands

There's not like one of those reality shows it

Everyone it's like it's like a two or three hour sail between each island. Okay. Yeah, it's no big deal

Is the best way to visit a tropical place? Yes like period

You bring the hotel with you, but you don't have to unpack every day. Yeah

So what are you packing for this trip? I mean, is it speedos and some block on a white shirt?

I'm gonna be in the nude

Everybody

We learn to let things go

It's a nudist thing

No, it's I mean look, I don't know what you would pack for a

Caribbean we wouldn't how how do I have got a no cruise policy, you know, this isn't a fucking cruise

Well, we're charming in the hat is the question. It's our boat. Yeah

There's no other people on the boat besides us if I could snorkeling the ha I would snorkeling that

You mean like jack Cousteau, right? Yeah

Yeah, no the uh, yeah, I don't know what you would wear on this particular trip

But for me, I'm bringing six bathing suits and a bunch of t-shirts

And a pair of fucking non-marking crocs for my boat shoes. I'm gonna look corny as hell, but where do you fly to?

Tortola, where's that?

It's where the air the biggest biggest island in the british version. It's where like things are

And then all the other islands are like little islands that surround it and you basically just do a lap

So this is decompression thing held motherfucking. Yes. Yes. Yeah

Early in you're going on Sunday. Here's so look so you start you start in

Other islands

And then you circle around all the other island. Yes. That's literally how it works. Yes

You go to all the other islands. Well send us a postcard. It's gonna be it's gonna be all right. That's pretty cool

Um, yeah, where are you going? What is what are the date of this auction by the way?

March 18th through the 25th the only

R.m. Syllabies online. It's an online auction. Oh, I mean the only thing that matters is the 25th

Now if you want some fun, just scroll through and you'll see the parts and memorabilia a lot of stuff

Forget about the cars. So it's 18 cars and a hundred and well click on that one the urban outlaw starter kit

This might be my favorite

So do everything you need to start pretty much 9 11 sport purpose build some assembly required

Yeah, it's 68 9 11 l

You get a 9 11 s fiberglass front bumper a 9 11 r styled louver quarter windows

You get a long block

You get a gearbox. You get

wheels

Mini lights

Um steering wheels a set of sneakers

Yeah, all right. I mean some of the color and fucking assemble

Yeah, don't even choose a color just weld on some fenders and leave it as is kind of like a harlequin patina car

That's pretty build yourself a little hot rod. Uh, you know

Some 22 year olds gonna buy this click on those photos because this is the one i'm kind of most excited about

This is very cool because there's a lot of cool things that go with it right here

I like the idea of this. This is pretty rad. Yeah, no one. I don't think is really done something to this level

Where did you have this?

Like had you collected these parts because you intended to build something new

I kind of had yeah, you know, I wanted to do a car and I may still do it where it was all you know

I'm known for mismatch color blocking, but it's paint

But you look at that deglet and you look at that front hood

Just click on one of those close-ups of the front hood and you go. Wow. This has got such great patina. Yeah, you can't really duplicate that

Yeah, so the goal here would just be like a harlequin parts car that fit this

60s era you drove a marcos, but yeah, this is a lot more colors, but yeah, yeah

So that's pretty cool

That's one fun little thing and then I'm letting go 144 lots of parts of memorabilia

So that is everything from bumpers defenders to doors to gauges to

What is the what is the most the most unique and cool individual item of memorabilia?

Scroll down keep scrolling. We'll see there's a red bull fridge, which is kind of cool

That's pretty cool that right there the nine one nine evo hybrid limited edition model

Yeah, so that's a click on that. That's a big scale Porsche made 500 of those and that's number 277

Is this the newest car you own?

It's the newest model I own, you know, that was a gift from Porsche motorsports. So that's kind of unique

Uh, you know, there's a gt3 rs piston that's actually do like the red bull fridge click on the red bull fridge. I like that

The red bull fridge it looks like a gas pump. Yeah, the red bull fridge is kind of cool. Yeah

You know all this stuff it like I say is no reserve. So I'm sort of I got five dollars on that

Well, there you go for sure. I'm gonna get a bit and keep like keep going. I got some signs

You got some helmets steering wheels a bunch of steering wheels

Yeah, I keep going. All right. I like I like a lot of street signs. Street lights. We got car. We have random assortments pistons and

Wristwatch collection pair of driving gloves. All right, you know suspension components

Sure

Little bunch of stuff there. God, you got a lot of shit. Was this all somewhere in your downtown spot?

Or was like, did you have a container? No, I had like a 40 foot pallet right that went 12 feet high

That I would just stash stuff on dude, you know, so sort of having space is a blessing and occurs because you end up

Sort of just filling stuff. Yeah, so

This is a cleansing thing for me. You know, oh, what do you need any of this shit for?

That's kind of where I'm at. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah. Yeah

RM Sotheby's had six guys for seven days

Split into three teams. One was parts. One was memorabilia. The cars were the easy bit

But here's a funny part to the story

So I've been having this stuff in storage on this pallet rack 40 feet long for maybe 25 years

And they came in and they said, okay, we're going to start making piles

Stuff that we're going to sell. Yeah stuff that we can scrap like for some reason

I'm keeping those old brake rotors like somehow I'm going to use them taken off. Yeah the ones I've taken off that are used

I'm not throwing them away

So there's a pile of scrap mine line between collecting and hoarding. This is a fun part to the story

So I end up with one van full of scrap

Which is old exhausts that are rusted out mufflers and headers and

Calipers and stuff like that. So I take that to the scrap yard and it's five cents a pound

Okay, so for a van full of scrap, I got 136 dollars. All right, then I had

Two vans full of old carpet rubber mats old door weather trim and things that I thought I was going to use asbestos

Yeah, of course lead paint and stuff like that. So those two vans full of junk

I had to pay to dump at the landfill. That cost me 200 bucks to dump them. So I'm already like, you know

So you're down 63 dollars. I'm down 64 dollars already

Dude when we dug the basement for this building

And you had to we had to like pay to get rid of dirt and stuff like that

Oh my god. So yeah, that's how many steering wheels do you have? Jesus. Fuck. There's like 40 or like 50

Steering into, you know, various lots, you know, they're all sort of 70s and 80s momo

Steering wheels. I mean the fact you have enough steering wheels that you can't sell them one at a time

You're selling them in batches. Yeah

Do these all come on donor cars pretty much. Yeah, you know, I've got my own momo steering wheel

I like them on seven a lot of these would have like a momo Monte Carlo with the thumb grip, which I don't like

Yeah, yeah, so it's just a month. Yeah, the mom not about the month combination and then long blocks

Now we've got carbs and long blocks mf5 pumps and carburetors and you know, there's a little bit of something for everyone here

Oh, bosh mfi pump. I've been looking for one. There you go. Click on that because the photos are pretty cool

Yeah, whoever did your your photos for these these is the rm guys. They are they're pretty nice looking photos

They you're well, it doesn't hurt that your fucking business was like

Locations for shoes. Yeah, I mean it's kind of photogenic

But you got to remember i'm the guy that never had an infantry

I didn't know what I had on this shelf. Yeah, and everywhere else

So they had to build these lots make an infantry assign a lot number

It took a long time plus your building is also for sale and you've got to get this

I actually took it off the market. I took it off the market. So

And that that'll be next, you know, I've got this 125 year old building that's 26,000 square feet that

You know, if I if I don't need it for 30 or 40 cars, I really don't need it for 15

Yeah, yeah, but time will tell us to where I'm going and uh, you know, I've been here before though

I've been in this position when I closed serious clothing down so many seats. Yeah. Yeah

So you did you did you what it like was this was this exactly the same process the same thing

Like I closed serious clothing down which is my wholesale clothing company retail stores as well in 2011

But I really should have closed it down in 2008. Yeah, I'd lost passion for it

Things were sort of not what they used to be

And at that time I didn't know what was going to come next but I knew through the film location business

I had a security blanket of I want to be able to pay the mortgage

What came next though was Demir Moskovich's film urban outlaw that came out in 2012

So the past 15 years of my life have been sort of traveling around doing correlated stuff

If I still had a day job, which was a clothing company with a dozen employees

I would never have had that freedom to go do that and to me at that moment in my life

15 years ago success meant being able to do whatever you want to do when you want to do it

So why am I running this business which I no longer love right and I'm no longer passionate about designing clothing

Ironically 15 years later. I've come full circle. I'm sort of going in that direction. Sure because I feel creative in that direction

Well, and are you I mean

And I do you feel like you sort of like

Hit the wall of Porsche

I don't know if I've hit the wall, but these things don't mean what they did 20 years ago

And I'm ready to experience something new

You know people identify me as various things, you know crazy hat guy, aren't you rub zombie or you're that Porsche guy, right?

Well, in reality, I'm all of those but that's that doesn't define who I am

And it's like when I travel you travel a lot. I don't have keys on me

You know, I'm not racing back to go drive some of these cars and at that point I realize I don't really need them

Yeah, yeah, well, I Hannah and I you seem pretty good at letting things go

We just have a hard limit dude, which is what it's like

We've well, we don't it's not like we sat down and went okay

Here's gonna be the limit, but we have found over our the last five six years that eight

Is all because with press cars too. Yeah and travel

Yeah, I can forget it. So eight. I mean and that's like I understand that eight is extremely gratuitous in the grand scheme of car collecting

Like I know I know how fucking ridiculous that sounds

But even given the enormous resources that I have to take care of this shit a literal staff

eight is two eight is

right, so

If it doesn't get driven for a while let it go. Fuck it's gotta go

It's taking me a long time to get to that point of being comfortable letting it go

Well, but for you also because you bought a bunch of these cars at the right time

And so they have they have for for most of this time where you've been

The you that most of us know you got a you had a warehouse full of appreciating assets

Yeah, yeah, they've they're you know still appreciating but the in general

Many of these cars have leveled off a bit. Yeah, so if they're just weighing you down and they're not

Oh, you know line go up. Yeah, hell. Yeah

Yeah, I mean for the value for me was never actually part of it

Even though I'm on the right side of it because you have too many to drive

You can at least go well, they're increasing in value. So they're worth keeping sure if they're not if that's not happening

Now it's like well, how many can I fit into my calendar anyway?

Yeah, I mean the garage is pretty tight. There's no room to let other things in, you know

We're currently in our vintage Rolls Royce phase and they have same way and they take up a lot of room

Didn't see any Rolls as in Jags in there. We're not selling any Rolls as in Jags. We're keeping them

Which can we talk about

The super cat is coming back. I know you're gonna ask me about it. I want to drive it

We're getting ready. I'm still on the program. We're delivering the first customer car

Which is gonna be happening in may. Is it sorry. Is it coming to america? It's coming to america. Yeah

Do we know do I know who's buying it? I don't know if you do okay? All right, but you know

They're working on a right hand drive version which will be for england and other places in the world

But that exact car is coming back in may to do all the press drives. It never did 18 months ago

All right, cool

So, you know, they fine-tuned a number a good word, didn't it this car was sub 56 seconds

Finished in 11th position now as you know a lot of people show cars at goodwood and do parade laps up the hill

Right and don't set times. Yeah, you know people that are manufacturing is a video available

So this was like fan favorite. Hmm. Imagine a

Pre-production prototype car that's finishing

Just outside the top 10 with a sub 56 second run and he's fan favorite. Yes. It's like a 1983 fucking jack

Don't call it a giant satin. We are super guys. Sorry. Sorry. You can't say that. I can't I I'm not the one salad

And I can't get you you're actually gonna love it. I think because

What's not to love it's cloudy. I mean just look at this thing. It's a v12 supercharged. Yeah, can we get sound jack? Hang on

Oh my god

Listen to that. It sounds like a fucking crazy

People don't expect it's gonna sound like that. Yeah. Yeah

Did someone just go you know that video of the Mercedes with the zonda exhaust on it? Yeah, just do that

We need that

fuck

The fire, you know, I don't think I've sufficiently appreciated the rear

Angle of that car. That's one of the best I'm driving away from you. Yeah, that's the that's the shit right there

Damn

I mean, I'm looking for the rear three quarters it that's all that's it right there. Boom. That's how look at that

We will get you behind the wheel of that car nasty dude. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah

Yeah excited about that

They say they're a hot shoe guy. I've never met him actually. He's the one doing all the development shakedown driving man

It sounds

Sounds kind of like a like a diablo

A bit, you know, I mean finishing just outside the top turn is pretty impressive

Oh, yeah

And a sub 56 second run when you see what the other cars were doing

Yeah

Is that is that a I mean obviously off the engine it is but is that does that exhaust

To collect into one or is it dual all the way out the back?

I think it's dual all the way back, but I gotta fact check that

I don't know it sounds like the kind of thing that would be have a collector into one. It's just fucking

Rips that what a delight. So yeah, that's coming by there

And there's orders on the books and building they're making 88 of them. They've allocated probably

Over a third of them already

What's gonna make the difference is when people actually drive it. Yeah, yeah

Because at this point no one's really driven it other than it going up the hill at Goodwin

Well, the one, you know the that I guess it was that's the one the one that I poked around at

At your house the inside was cool. It was comfortable. I mean it looks great. I'm super stoked

I mean ergonomically that car is a car you can drive and take, you know, there's plenty of room in it

It's comfortable. It's practical. It's rowdy

It's loud. It's fast. It does what it should you think they'll make a non supercharged one

Just I don't actually I just keep the blowers. Well, they're gonna make other things, you know

Twr wasn't just jag, you know that they did other cars

Maybe they're gonna do an Aston or something like that. Who knows

Whatever I think they should do. I think they should do a Volvo wagon. Well, that'd be good. 800 horsepower gap bull

Yeah, like a touring because didn't they do the Volvo touring cars? They should do that

Uh, I have my Aston still I it's it's on the east coast. I drive it when we go when I go back to these

That was the one you converted to manual. Yeah in 2014

I'm gonna did I kick the camera and fuck it up? Sorry. What year is that Aston? It's an o3

Old vanquish. Yeah, it's cool. I'm never getting rid of that. That's a that's a keeper. That one's a lifer

What was this new Aston light you drove while you're in? I can't talk about it. I'll tell you I can't talk at the

It's an embargo until the 30th. I'll tell you off off off camera, but you know, it's a million dollar mid-engine

1,000 horsepower

So, you know, you could you could probably make a few

You know

It's uh, I what I can tell you is that it is uh, it's actually quite

Uh spectacular looking most of them all most most of them are but it's not a guarantee

Yeah, most Aston's are and and many of the hypercars are but it's not a guarantee and um

it's uh

It's got some cool tricks of its leaf. What's going on with the f1 program? They seem to be having some

They have a Honda issue

It's not going well over there. Uh, we they tried to avoid that subject. Oh, of course. We were hanging out

I think it's different people. I don't know different teams. Same name. I think it's different teams. Yeah

I'm I mean, but I think I don't know. I think I think

Well, not just this Aston martin valhalla, but it seems like you know the highest end

Stuff from many manufacturers is going to be hybridized. It's going to be very advanced

And I think there's really open a huge opening in the market for stuff like this that's

Um, whether it's it's the twr. Whether it's that have you seen that evaludo 355 for it. Yeah, that's pretty cool

Um, the guys behind that are ex-gunther works. Um, and uh, who's doing the lamborghini diablo?

Accentrica, I think it's called that one

Doesn't speak to me quite as much, but uh, johnny's like fucking all drooling all over it

Who's doing the uh, they asked the Ford uh, escort in england. Who's doing that? I don't know. I haven't seen that one

No, it seems there's a hot rod rest. Oh, it seems cool. I like we like those. I mean, there's there's quite a lot, right?

You've got launches. Yeah, the 037 the chimeras like I mean, they're all fucking expensive, but

They're the same price as like the supercars and in a lot of ways they're more interesting

This represents great value because in a world of everything you're talking about it's actually underpriced

Isn't this like 200,000 or something more in the threes, but still what you're talking about is more like a million dollar

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, you know in a weird way. This is affordable approachable

And yeah, I mean if you're if you're gonna put this in in the same, you know category as singer or gunther or uh, what's the

Oh boy totem. Did you've seen the totem that alpha? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Zach and I drove it. It's neat really really neat

I mean it's a carbon tub alpha gtv with 600 horsepower. Is that a million dollar car though?

They don't want a million for it. It's I think 600,000

an action no no it's

Fucking crazy obviously

but I mean

That alpha was really it was very cool. It was amazing. It was amazing

It had the one issue of rubbing which maybe they can fix real entire combo. Yeah, maybe something like that

I think they it was on display at the quail and I think they just set it to oh too low show car

It should be a little hard, but I mean everything else right now. It is

Beautiful and it was like everything they've touched and changed is well done

Smart decisions made well looks incredible. Was it cold again? A totem gt. Okay

Um, it's it's very very good the interior was spectacular. It was a great

I think honestly, I sort of bring it up like so can you just pull the interior like your like this car?

Yeah, I it's the kind of place where you go. I want to drive this from Los Angeles to Monterey

You know to spend I want to spend seven hours enjoying this interior and the the view out of this car and uh

That's the car that we drove. Yeah, the blue car looks cool. And it is based on the gtv

I mean yes in theory although there ain't no gtv left and it's got a twin turbo v6

And a manual gearbox

Oh wait, there's got to be some real interior photos of this thing. No

And this interior is is really nicely a tactile and

Um, I think it's on I think you would dig this

Um, the leather was nice and the and and that look at that the gauge cluster was great

I'll probably go to talk to dory and alfa about it. You know, yeah dv mechanical. Is there it's um

The uh, the motor is by this company. Um, what's in inter mechanic mechanic? Oh, the name was not the most artistic thing

Yeah, um, I can't remember who makes the motor, but the motor was how many of these are they making?

I mean as many as the 20 it says 20 units 2.9 liter v6

And uh

It is a nasty little thing and they have a few different interior options

So, yeah, so that one that one is the one that I drove the one that zacks hovering on here

Yeah, and actually this is the one that I sort of prefer the most the uh, oh, is that my uh

I think that's is that my instagram post. Oh, yes, it is. How about that looks like you?

Yep, it is so um very pretty. Let me see that back end shop the back end is I think superb

Yeah, really all integrated. Yeah

And then the interior this is the most sort of luxury trim

Of the interior. Um, it gets more raw and bonkers from here. Um

But the gated shifter the gearbox is from a ferrari 550 like the whole gearbox

Like this is their carbon fiber weave design, which is not just the same one you see on everything

Like even that little stuff got the special touch

And all of the little knobs and switches are like milled aluminum. Are these things mean?

Italy Italy. Yeah, I think in Modena. This is what kind of winds me up about Porsche a little bit

Like you're talking about everything sort of milled and knurled and custom made

That's kind of what I think Porsche is lacking on the top of the line when it comes to like

300 grand for a 992 turbo and it's got the same switch gear like an entry level box

The mind and then you see that and you go look at that attention to detail

But this is look at this view from the driver's seat forward

I mean the the little on the steering column you see those the little drive mode knobs

Just all milled and fabulous like this is like your suspension adjustment is this metal knob you turn

Uh, very satisfying clicks for everything. You can see this is their carbon weave

Which like

It's like a pattern. Yeah, they look like a pattern you see on a

Yeah, and then the house some subtle road carbon fiber. It really was. Yeah

It was it was exactly that. What is this rodentrack oregon tour thing you're doing?

It looks pretty good luck. They're like luxury road trips with little track time and you know

How many miles a day do you generally drive on this road? We keep it under like

200 220. Yeah, because people don't want to be in the car that much. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's pretty ideal actually

On how many days is that that one's four?

And they had dirt fish too. I saw rally school. Just fun. Yeah, you guys are

If you want to come if you want to come be uh, be a special vip guest on one of them

I'm sure we could arrange that. All right. Well, it's if you were actually interested

Well, I'm asking so and I'm sort of

If you're interested now if you're if you're selling your stuff and freeing up your mind in your time

We could certainly arrange

There's some nice road to school before

No, I haven't oh you love it. Yeah, it looks fun. It looks fun. Yeah

And people that are already like pretty good at driving usually excel at rally school a lot. Yeah

I'll I'll ask the I'll ask the team if you when is it when is it when's that? Oh shit, june june

It's it's like the two posts to go on my instagram zack if you want to have the dates on it. I forget

Offhand june 10th to 13th. We got the first we got the sold out one. I think in april some great roads up there

Oh my god, the root is so good

The root on that road surface seems to be way better than what we got down here mack is very weather resistance. Yeah, I get it

Yeah, yeah, no that one's gonna be super fun. Uh, thanks for plugging it for me

I've got a buddy pelly steve, you know who lives in Oregon

He's a guy that put the Nike shoe together

He came down for the lit week last week and took him up the crest for the first time and driving around doing all

The open houses emery and all this stuff and he goes wow the roads here are just so bad

Just really really bad. Where do you go, right? Yeah

I guess they got better roads. They do. That's why we we that's why you do it

That's where we go to these places. Yeah, we go we go where the good roads are arriving. I'm super excited to fucking

Scout it too. I haven't done this. Oh, yeah. It's got it. Yeah. No. Uh, should we go to the people? Yeah

Let's go to the people patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast is where you go if you want to

Ask questions for the live stream and then subsequently watch it get the show before everybody else get extra show

Get the show without ads and get access to

Merch collabs and things like that like the new frozen berry

Notice canyon that's coming out very very soon. What is the frozen berry? I know it's a color. But what is it?

It's my you know the watch I did. Oh, it's a watch

It's the watch I did but in the color of the car

Okay, I have it in the other room. I wasn't sure if it was like ice cream or gelon. No, no, no

The smoking tire yogurt flavor is not clear

Yeah, you weren't clear. Did you see that Porsche did a frozen berry? Um ice cream. No, I don't see some. Yeah, it was like

It was very good. That's on brand. Yeah, it was a bar

You're obviously in that twilight zone jet like era right now. I think am I a little loopy?

Do I seem a little loopy or is this normal?

This is normal. He's adjusted

This is normal. Yeah, this is normal. I don't think you seem loopy. It's Friday afternoon. It's fine. I've seen that loopiness, isn't it?

This is normal. I have I am a little um

Uh, like shifted maybe just like a slight there's a slight

I go to it. I think I need one more one more night of sleep. Maybe a climatized. Yeah. Yeah, but it's okay

We'll get through it before you go sailing

Yeah, that'll and then we go back to different time that time change. Yeah

It'll be okay. Oh, we don't you'll figure it out. We don't have to

At say when you when you're sailing you can operate at about 60 percent brain power

Yeah, when you're filming a car while driving on track while filming a car 110 percent

60 percent will do it. Yeah

Siren song of the kuntosh culture. Oh, that says that's what I mean siren song

I uh dying. How is your kuntosh?

it

Uh being reassembled by damien and franco's european sports cars here in l.a. Here in l.a.

Didn't go around the world and the model is built in europe or something kids someone's building a motor for it

I mean the edging and gearbox went to italy. Well, that makes their back. Okay. Yeah, they're back

They went to italy on a honeymoon. Did they come back assembled or they came back in pieces?

They came back fully ready to go in ready running dyno ready to go running. Yes, how much horsepower does it?

It makes uh, it was like 446. It made it. It was good more than stock. Well, that's good. Yeah, it was great

Uh siren song as a rise against uh reference

Is there any amount of money that it would take to buy the 277 car? That's a keeper. Okay, nothing nothing

Millions make an offer. How many millions?

There is a number

The answer is there is a number. He just hasn't heard it yet. Yeah, I've never thought about it. Yeah

There are like people there are there there's a number for sure

Yeah, I mean yeah, I feel like if you end up in a position where you have sold every car and everything

And you still have to sell 277 that would be a terrible day. Yeah. Yeah

Well, if that happens they could smell the desperation

Hopefully that's not where you want to be. That's not why we wanted this

Uh carbon monocoque and ball torture says uh, what makes a Porsche an outlaw?

Come on

People have been outlawing Porsche since the james dean days, right? So, you know, it's a term that's there's nothing new about that

It used to mean it started by being chrome delete, you know racing inspired wheels

Uh driving in argentina in the 40s. Yeah, yeah

Doing career panamericana. Yeah. Yeah, you know that that would be I mean the outlaw term is you know

Someone lives outside of the law, right? But I don't think there's any laws when it comes to modifying Porsches, but uh

I guess emery outlaw would be one of the first ones or you know pretty sure that emery emery's family is like where it started

Yeah, for sure. So it's it's it's the 356 is the beginning of the outlaw

Hot some hot rotted some small little changes that people go. What's what's different here?

And then you know a bit different rudge wheels or magnesium wheels or whatever some horsepower or things like that

non-stock

Non-stock sixes no country for old buffets

I respect magnets for unironically defending the slant nose. Are there other

unpopular configurations of Porsche that you like I

I mean look obviously I

Do you need is a is a slant nose an unpopular choice values say otherwise real slant noses are worth a

Fuckload of money. Yeah, I don't have a real one for me

I got sentimental value

Mentally with the slant nose because the first Porsche I ever bought 35 odd years ago was a slant nose from the Pomona Swamp me

Yeah, and maybe six seven years ago

I like I got to get a new slant nose or another slant nose

And I went all around the country looking at dp Kramer gumbala roof factory ones

And then that one found me here in LA the red guy the red guy the 74 slant nose

Yeah with an interesting story. So I'm a slant nose fan

So, you know anything that sort of has some character and personality

I'm into when it comes to 9 11's no matter what it is. Yeah, no, I like the slant nose too

I mean I I know I understand why people wouldn't like a slant nose conversion on like a 9 30 or something

But like yeah, I'm pro slant nose. This is a little beyond a slant nose

Yeah, this is like a 9 35 on the interesting part to these stories any headlights

The interesting part to these stories

The guy that modified it in the 80s

Remembered the car he like called me up this guy and goes I built that car in 1983 at AIR in Burbank

So he's been in LA pretty much his entire life

It just needs a bigger mode. It needs like a 500 horsepower turbo. It's like a 210 horsepower 2 7

Yeah, a lot of wing not a lot and that fiberglass is pretty heavy. So, uh, it's a great base

It's a 74 u.s. Carrera underneath it which has some significance

But it's a blank canvas for yeah, you know, this is a you need to call busy moto

Yeah, you know and get like 600 horsepower twin turbo in it and then do a coca-cola livery on it

And you have to tell busy to fucking hold back

Yeah, he would be like

1000 horsepower and you're like no stop it. It's not a minivan psycho. It's not an odyssey minivan

I

Love him. He's great. He's he's in uh, he's featured in the article I wrote for rodentrack

On newsstands this month. What is that article called dino tasting? I took the same car

Yeah, to four dinos

Okay

To see how the different dinos would read the same exact car a little differently and they did how big was the difference

Uh, the difference between the biggest the highest and the lowest number was I think

Uh

40 horsepower, which is a about a 10 percent variation 400 horsepower ish car

It was a Mustang gt. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It was a Mustang gt. So, uh, so yeah, it's a it's a fun

It's a cool story, but busy has the um

One of those hub dinos. Yeah, we take we take the wheels off. Yeah, really interesting. He loves it

Was that closer to true horsepower? Was that losing 10 percent? No, it was it was right in the middle

It was in the middle of the so I don't know like which lost the least and which lost the most

I don't want to give it away. Okay blow up my own spot. Was this a stock Mustang. It was a dark horse. Okay

I was a dark horse. So I mean, they were looked it it wasn't it wasn't about

Which is more right? It was just to show

That dinos are very useful tools for doing a before after two, you know

Thing or to improve your tunes or whatever

But but you need to just tune on one machine if you put the same car on four different machines the same day

They'll read different, but the car isn't making different power. It's just like, you know, someone's got to read higher

What is the most common the roller?

What is the most what common form of dyno? Yeah, just like just like roll. Yeah chassis dinos. Yeah

Yeah, mo with two of them were rear drive rollers one was an all-wheel drive roller and then one was the pack

The the the hub thing

Christian says was downtown la ever thriving went there once and didn't see the appeal

I mean the arts district is cool. I've been downtown for 35 years

So for me, he either it's like a slam nose. You either love it or you hate it

You know, it's like the certain west-siders don't go downtown, right? It's kind of one of those la things but to me

There's just a lot of um inspiration around there great restaurants coffee shops art galleries

You know, I'm walking around all the time with willow and to me it's an inspiring place to be it's kind of my home and

Let's our buddy christian just moved downtown like two years ago

And I thought he was gonna hate it and he actually like loves it now. It says he'll like never leave

Um, it's an acquired taste downtown. I think yeah, but I mean like, you know same with like venice

like I lived in venice for eight years and it's like, you know, it's for a for a

Expensive beach town. It's like pretty fucking grimy, but I liked it. You know, I liked the grind

How do you like your new mid-century modern neighborhood? We like it too. We like our neighbors

We like we never made good neighbor friends in venice, but we have really really good friends where we live now

So and you came to my birthday cars and coffee at eight o'clock in the morning

And it could not have a surprise cars and coffee for my birthday at eight o'clock in the morning in venice

And she can't I got it. That's pretty good. Uh, the swinging tire says what is the first

Porsche production car to match or outperform a roof yellowbird. No, that's interesting first production

to really, uh, dude, you have to go to like a

996

Turbo probably I don't even think that matches maybe it doesn't maybe the gt2

Well, then isn't the challenge that roof was always, you know, piggybacking off of the new car

So they would always turn it up beyond what Porsche would put out. I mean, that was a benchmark the yellowbird, right?

I'll look at where the five of those car is not sure to make a car that went 211 miles an hour

I mean, have they made one? Yeah

It's like to a production car. Yeah, career gt. I think pull it up. I think I bet it's not 211

I think a career gt went that quick

Yeah, no, let's see. No

it must

202

918 spider did to

Where'd it go? Uh, 211. Okay

918 imagine it took them career gt went 205 the turbos usually go 205

It's it's rare that they go, you know beyond much over to 918 to get from 1987

When he's also to give a shit when it's jenny's Porsche gonna build a replacement for the 918

That is a very interesting question. They don't want to answer it

I mean, I know they had the mission x or whatever it was the electric one which nobody wanted that they thought everyone was going to take

Yeah, well, I think that I think they now know that nobody wants an electric hypercar

Like they remember like I drove and did they I don't know if they offered to let you drive it

That thousand horsepower electric Cayman thing that with the track car. Yeah, the race car. I tried that

Um, and I was like, okay. Well, I I could see what you're doing here, but like I don't know, man

And uh, I think they now think they now know people don't want an electric hypercar

I'm surprised I didn't know that sooner but but like everything

Like is the 918 like the the temer the all of lamborghini's lineup is the 918 this new astin valhalla

Is a 918 like everything at the top end has the art the layout of the mid-engine hybrid

Yeah, well, you think about 918 though. I came out in 2013. So that's 13 years ago that technology's got to be 15 years old today

Yeah

So they're playing catch up there. I think well, I drove the 918 a thousand miles last summer. It feels

Surprisingly not dated. I mean it's it's I mean that's practical, right?

You could change the gauge cluster and like the battery chemistry

So it has like a little more electric performance and and sell the same fucking car today

Just sell the same car like don't you don't need to change anything else

Like they won't do that. They won't but like they could they could easily do a 918.2

Today, yeah change like three things and just make more and make a fortune

Oh, they'd make one of the waiting for uh, they're in financial problems. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah

paint the sample body blue

Magnus which family of american vehicles might you customize like your porches? I'm a mobile guy

Vintage Mopar. Didn't you have a challenger at one point? I had two superbies. I still got the tattoo right there

I had a 65 Mustang gt 350

I remember that yeah, I remember that one. I kind of want one of those again

Koji Koji says Magnus favorite BMW and Mercedes models respectively. Oh BMW Batmobile and

That's pretty obvious or 2002 or m1 kind of like the m1. Yeah, buddy's got one. Mr. Enthusiast

Mercedes goal wing, you know if goal wing was the price of an e-type Jag I'd be driving a goal wing

They're so nice to drive. I did the million miller in one. I did the silver out of classic in one

You can just drive one of those all day. Yeah, you get comfortable in them pretty quickly

It's kind of like driving an e-type Jag that doesn't stop as good and looks better. Yeah, and it's like, you know 10 times more money

Yeah, but that's the good thing about e-type Jags, isn't it? Yeah, I mean pretty and they are very nice to drive

Recently I've been thinking, you know, slc

Would be pretty cool

Zilberzao pretty cool

Oh, oh, zilberzao. Yeah, the red pig the zilberzao

All right, things like that. I guess

uh

I don't have

I don't have we talked about this on a previous show, but I don't have the information in front of me

um

Okay, wait

Uh, two clutches one shift says I got a one out of 500

Xeric triptych lapis style for half retail. It's now sold out. It resembles an ap star wheel thoughts on

Xeric and limited editions from micro brands. I think they're fun

But was told real collectors won't respect them. I'll take the last part first and that's not really true

Real enthusiasts

If you show up to anywhere with an interesting watch and that is an interesting watch, we'll go. Oh, look

That's an interesting watch. Tell me about it. You've got the tola dano and chan. The b1

Which is an interesting watch. They just came out with their new guy. I saw the b3 sold out those guys, you know

Up the game to tanium. That's not to tanium, but the b3 is to tanium gold

See I can't unfortunately

Actually, that's not true. I could fuck with this watch

I'd just flip it over right because I have to wear on my on my right hand. I wear my watch on my right hand

This is that it's it's not symmetrical. Correct. If you wear it on your left hand

It's perfect because your angle is right of your face, right? They need a destro version

Oh, all right, right hand. I suppose I could just flip it over. You could flip it over. I could I could fucking totally

Jimi Hendrix this watch. You know problem. I like these watches and I like a lot of micro brands

And xeric is an interesting brand. Um, they have a lot of interesting ways to display time and

Very few watches are investment grade very few even ones that seem like they would be

You know what? I mean most watches you wear them for a while and when you sell them you're you're not going to get

Ironically, this is doubled in value like the guys that bought the first one of these

Yeah, they're like flipping them for double and triple it. I mean that's that's cool

But that's not like normal right like these guys did something that's not normal

You know if you look at what they did the brutalist movement. Yeah, it seems spied by the sevenies

But the case the strap is pretty unique

It is it is a different watch and then they did it at a time that integrated bracelets are super hot and also they like

No people at ho dinky to hype it up and all this other stuff like I'm not

criticizing like

You know some micro brands get a lot of early success and you can flip them and become

An other one's like not so much like that brand's been around like who knows if the same thing will happen

Maybe well, maybe it won't when they're doing the b-50. You know the b-52s. Yeah, right? I like god bless them

I hope I hope they do but like who knows you know what I mean taste may change so xeric

It's uh, it's fucking cool if you like it and you look down your wrist and go. Yeah, then that's where we're at, right?

Forest casey says what separates tuners with staying power versus those that fade away

Is it actual quality or something more akin to fashion a question if you talk to roof they're not a tuner

You know they describe their self as a

manufacturer an engineering company

um

I mean gumballist those a you know

I love the way those cars look

It's hard to compete with roof when they're doing the world's fastest car and they're doing more portion than portion

They're doing 211 miles an hour and it's still relevant and significant. I think you know roof is in a different category

Yeah, you know roof roof gets their own vin numbers or got their own vin numbers dine in

Was the racing team for you know for bmw like

And stroze again gumball gumball bless their hearts, you know, that was more of a body kit thing

aesthetic mods that were that were

Very targeted to a specific era era and of and taste 80s excess for gumballa and into the 90s

And and stroze. It was a real specific early 90s look that may come back

Eventually, but like you know that that wasn't gonna last someone offered me a stroze egg bodied

928 recently looked I bet it was cool

It had the testarosa strikes down the side of it. You know, it's like twi twi. All right. That's not a tuner

They're like a motorsports engineering right develop the xj2 20

It was jags race team really raced at laman and won at laman in 1988. So

You know, I think that's the difference. Oh, wow

I know I have to say zack just pulled up a nine a speedster

Look at the price of it though. I'm kind of surprised at that price surprise at how high it is

Yeah, it seems relatively high to me. It does it don't you think it's 168,000

This is like a Mitsubishi 3000 GT front end with a 9 11 speeds back end. It's pretty it's pretty aggressive

But actually I think it I think I can I can see how it got this money

I think there's not a lot of these were converted back to stock

And uh

And this one is not just it's the whole bit. It's a speedster too. It's not just a regular

I'm not a speedster fat. I've never owned a speed. I think the proportions are often a little weird

Go down is the mileage also kind of low 56,000 miles. Oh tmu though. Oh, that's not good. Not great from the back

Party in the rear better from the front

I think this highlights like roof and dyne and they kind of they took whatever the company was doing and they just

Expanded the horsepower but didn't change like the identity of the car

Yeah, the yellow boat is a narrow-bodied car

Right and it's really subtle and they kept doing that

I think I think they saw what the manufacturer was doing and why people liked it and they just turn up the wick on the power

But this is like this is giving the 9 11 the lamrigini treatment

Yeah, to make it really extroverted visually and I don't think that's why the company

I don't think that's why the manufacturers around Porsche's too conservative for me. I need I need you more like more like Lambo

Yeah, more Lambo. Let's yeah. Yeah. Yeah

Let's see

Just the tip Tronic

What are some good alternatives to the vintage Porsche experience?

Now that many vintage Porsches are unattainable to us

Well, I think there's a Porsche for every price point, right entry level's got to be a box to still

Represent sure bang for the buck. I think so or 996. Yeah, I mean 996 is a going up in price

They're no longer available in the teens

Right, but they're still available for like third 20 30 like yeah

So if you want a 9 11 if you want your Porsche experience to be a 9 11 and you don't care about air-cooled

996 all day long. What is the what is the most affordable air-cooled experience right now?

SC convertible

SC target. Yeah, you know, but even that's like 50 60 grand

Yeah, and if you want a nice sc or like I've never owned a 3 2 Carrera

And recently I saw one in a cool color. So I thought maybe it's time until I realized they were

60 to 80 grand or 70 to 100 grand and I go wow, that's a lot of money

Yeah, so I don't think there are any air-cooled bargains unless you want to live with a

SC or a 3 2 Targa or something like I mean sc would be great, but that's not a bargain. Yeah

912 suck

Jeremy was a race car driver says

Let's see. Uh, the only two Porsches I've driven are a gen 2 Panamera gts and a 996

Am I missing the driving experience that makes a Porsche a Porsche?

um, I mean

Are you disappointed with those driving experiences? I mean, I don't like those two cars disappointed

I mean, that's a different era and generation to what I'm into which is early air-cooled stuff

You know, which is just a lot lighter and more nimble, but I don't think you're missing it

No, I just drove my buddy's uh, my buddy's 996

Uh, Carrera 4s shout out to santo my physical therapist was getting serviced at bbi

When I had to run my car down to bbi and it was done

And I was like, oh just drive you want me to drive it home for you because he lives back up here

So I did and I hadn't driven a 996 in a while. So I did 50 miles home in this nice c4 s

Um

And it was very nice

It was set up well and it had it had nice a nice ride that the shifter was good

The steering was nice the brakes were strong. I mean, but Tim seems to know what he's doing

Yeah, yeah, the car was set up really nicely, but uh, but it's uh, it was a good car, man

It was really enjoyable actually 996 a good place to be. I don't know if this guy's missing. I don't think you're missing the experience

a gen 2 panamera gts na v8 is a sweet ride

I think I think

Now you've got a tycoon, right? Yeah, it's downstairs. Didn't you see it?

Weren't the guy washing it when you came in? No, I parked outside the car. We're taking photos of that ourselves

That bronze s l that bronze s l is a one-owner car with fucking records to new you gotta like that springs car

Looks it'll still be 20 grand, but it's a great. It's a great great car

Uh, was that it zack? Was that all for the quest challenge? All right. Where are you going next once you have all right?

Once you got a little cash in your pocket

I'm gonna go home to see my mom my mom's 82. So I'm gonna spend a little time in england and uh

Time visit twr while you're over there visit twr this boomerang in the car back

But spend time with my mom in sheffield. I'll be next. Do you leave a car over there? No, no, I've never owned a car in england

Really never never own never had a driver's license in england. Well now

You're I mean your us one is fine, but like do you ever thought about having a vacation vehicle?

Uh, that's o p p other people's Porsches. Are you having like a meat while you're out there?

Time will tell. I mean those always seem to crop up. You know, they do seem to happen

The uh, the outlaw gatherings are spontaneous. Is there a caffeine and machine near sheffield?

I don't know the geography of sheffield. That's a cool space. So where I like those guys pull up a map and show me

Where sheffield is in in the uk expanded. They've now got two or three of them caffeine machine. Yeah, I'm pretty sure three

Yeah, shout out to phil. Yeah, he's doing a good job. I I love that business zack and I had such a great time

Have you done is I love you man event night with no, well, we did a tst podcast live

There and sold it out. I guess that one there would be close. Sheffield's right there

Uh, go up north of Birmingham north of Birmingham. Keep going. There it is. Oh

There right there. I see

There it is sheffield steel town famous for steel. We invented stain the steel there

Really? Yeah, the process of stain the steel was invented in sheffield. I'm good to know big steel town supplied the auto

Industry famous for cutlery and knives and death leopard and joe cocker and pulp and how are the roads in the peak district

National park spectacular. Really that's a good spot

That is a pretty good spot to drive around there. It looks nice. The uh, whatever that road is there between what's that mackles

Macklesfield macklesfield the road to macklesfield looks pretty solid to me

Lots of great driving roads out there and then up there. Hope valley heathers say that's not how this is not too far from

That looks like good roads there

On the border. I love driving in the uk. It is a really a nice place to drive

I know the people that live there are probably like what the fuck you're talking about, but I like it

All right, that's a good place to visit. That's what I say. Thanks to roundabout. Zach and I drove roundabouts

Thanks to that. We drove from fucking

Goodwood all the way out to the lotus factory and wherever the fuck east of the end without stopping

You know the car car in motion so the whole time four hours

I mean it was fabulous one of my most irritating drives was from Goodwood to Sheffield on a sunday after

Festival of speed on the m1 where they've got these. Yeah, they've got these designated, you know

25 mile an hour speed zones that go on for like 40 miles

And the never-ending road works where no one's working on the road, you know stuff like that

Yeah, I feel you I guess but to go from, you know, my day to day light to light existence here being in motion

Even slowly montana had a lot of roundabouts a lot of roundabouts. You gotta be in motion

Yeah, dude big sky and that whole area so many roundabouts. I mean, I don't do the roundabouts. They rule about rolling stop signs

They are we've got an adventure, right? Yeah, they gave it a name. Um, thanks for coming dude. Thanks for having me

Dates again for the rms. I'm south base. No reserve march 18th through the 25th

The 25th is the day you put on your calendar and get out a bit. What's the biggest ticket item on there?

Estimated I know it's no reserve. I know it's no reserve

Probably the 7627 rs mfi Carrera Porsches that one right that one on the left top left

Last production mfi car they only made only made 113 of them. Oh, wow

So the time will tell we'll see probably a good one

You gotta know nine. I bet nobody gave a fuck about this thing. You know, no, I mean, it's all about the buying

Is this like $18,000 or something? Maybe even less than that

Yeah, dude, nobody gave a fuck about these until all of a sudden they did yeah, they did until they did

I like the french market headlights on that too. Yeah, they look good on that. Yeah, they look good on almost everything from there

I put it the I put the french fogs on the

People don't do that. They're good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, viva la France, right?

I was in France yesterday for six hours at Charles de Gaulle air flying through yeah

Charles de Gaulle was for a long time a no-go. I would not take a layover there. They've gotten better

I gotta give them credit. They have actually gotten better

There's no direct flight to bill bow or whatever it is not on uh, not in not within my deltid universe

Okay, no, no, no gotta at least it's not Amsterdam. You're gonna stop the airport

I uh, I like Schiffel airport. There you are, but it's but from spain. That's like hours out of the way

Yeah, it's no good. Um power. So are you throwing thanks buddy? Thanks guys. Appreciate it. I appreciate you coming by and I'll be watching

Uh, we will be watching from a boat

You can probably make a bid on that red bull fridge. You seem to be liking five dollars. No reserve. Let's go

An all red bull you can drink. Thank you. Is it full? Full of red bull

Yeah, um, thanks to our patrons for asking such good questions. Thank you to everyone else for listening. We'll see you guys later. Bye

Cheers

Magnus Walker

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