McLaren SUV, WhistelinDiesel Arrested, EV Batteries - Shift & Steer Ep545

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That's right Matt, don't let that fool you. Recording is in progress.

We have hit the red button because this is shift and stare.

Welcome to the party pals!

Hello.

Matt!

How are you?

I'm doing well, doing well. I'm recovered from SEMA and my cold that I brought home.

Still got a little bit lingering in, but it's kind of gone, you know.

My voice is always like this. It's, you know, not just, I always sound like I have a cold.

And Aaron, Aaron's down and out. He's down and out somewhere.

He's down south and out of the picture for the show today.

I don't know if he's delivering cars or did something on his car, but he's driving.

He's always driving.

We're just going to see a fan. Who knows?

I don't know.

He's a, yes, road trip.

We just got the text this morning that, oh, I forgot what day it was.

And so there's, I mean, we've been doing this for what, 11 years and you know, every Wednesday.

So anyways, we've got a lot to talk about today. We're over the SEMA thing.

I mean, not totally over it.

We put up some more photos and things like that, having a little fun, but now we're moving on, getting on to other things.

You know, I try to do something a little different this year with the interviews and stuff.

So on the car cast YouTube channel.

So I usually come back and grab some interviews for the podcaster, but I tried to film more of it this year.

You know, it's a, it's definitely not polished by any means.

He brought the whole crew in, right?

I mean, I wish it was.

That comes to SEMA and he has a cameraman, a sound man.

He has a stylist.

You should, I dropped by his hotel room one day.

He has hair and makeup.

There's a team in there.

Hair and makeup person.

Is this outfits?

No, that one's not going to work today.

What is wrong with you?

You know, I mean, it's just, I wish, but it was just me.

So I had a couple of the, what I've been doing is taking, taking the individual interviews.

So on car cast, sometimes I'll do two interviews in one podcast show.

They're 20 minute chats, 15, 20 minute chats.

I'll post one, you know, 40 minute show.

But for YouTube, I've been taking those individual ones and putting them up as shorter YouTube videos, sometimes 15, 20 minutes, 25 minutes.

So when I, the first, on the first day, I completely even forgot to like put my phone on a tripod.

So it's an interview and then a bunch of B roll footage of like the booth and what we were talking about, which is fine.

And then I kind of realized I was like, oh no, I meant to bring the tripod and stuff.

So there's some of the interviews like with McGuire's and the Ring Brothers.

Ring Brothers is getting posted right now.

I set up a tripod with my phone on it just as we're sitting there so you can see the guys and them talking.

And then I used a bunch of B roll and photos and stuff of the car so you can see what's going on with the car.

So on the CarCast YouTube channel, there's going to be a, there's probably going to end up being, you know, six or seven, maybe eight videos that are going to go up there.

So you can kind of see what's, you know, who these guys are and what happened at SEMA and get some of the B roll, some of the stuff.

So hopefully it's a little more interesting than just two talking heads sitting there on Zoom for 45 minutes.

So hopefully you guys can go in.

I'm sure it'll be fun and interesting and, you know, it's a lot better than us.

We forgot to bring film and there was no place in Vegas to get a 35 millimeter Technicolor film.

Yeah, you have to make your own now.

You have to make it from scratch.

Is that possible?

No, but, you know, you can still get it in Hollywood, but not in Vegas, you know, it's not one of those things.

And I know you've done this as well.

It's just like kind of going and trying to juggle like each interview, like you bust out a Zoom recorder, which is a confusing name.

Zoom is a digital recorder, not Zoom.

They were first.

Yeah.

So you bust out this digital recorder and you get a couple of microphones and then you do your interview.

And now I'm trying to like set up a tripod and just run some some video footage of the interview on my phone and then bring it back and try to sync up the audio in the microphones with the video footage, which is not that tough to do.

But then as you're doing the interview, remember everything you guys talked about so you can go and grab some B roll and then try to put it in there.

And I'm not a video editor by any means, you know, so trying to figure it out and kind of do it on my own.

Like anybody can just grab the video and post it up there and maybe slap a couple of images over it.

But yeah, just trying to get some of it posted.

Well, the hardest part of it is actually doing it at SEMA, finding time to do it at SEMA and still see and be other places at SEMA.

And then hopefully all your guests are available when you've scheduled, when you go by the booth, because I've done it where you go by the booth.

I know we said we could do it, but can we move it back to like, you know, an hour from now and you look at your schedule.

Well, I can't do it an hour from now, but how about three hours from now?

No, I'm busy, you know, and you're just like, oh man, everybody's so busy and they're back to back.

So you've got it done.

I come home and I go, oh, I sat down with, you know, Tremac transmissions for 20 minutes.

And then I go, why did that video take me three hours to edit, right?

Because you're sitting there, you're listening to the video and going, oh, so we just mentioned, you know, this new DCT, you know, their new transmission.

I go, do I have photos of that transmission?

And I got to find the photos of the transmission and then I shoot any videos of that transmission.

And then can I put that in the video and so it's a lot, a lot of that.

Some of them, fortunately, like for Ring Brothers, working with their PR guys, they have so many assets.

So, you know, they'll send me 40 or 50 really nice professional photos of the cars that I can put in there.

So that helps, but it's good.

It's a lot of content.

But anyway, it's all up there.

Hey, Matt, you got an EV.

I do.

You have an electric vehicle and, you know, we're looking at a study that just came out of Stanford University.

Yeah.

And they're saying that this whole EV thing is very misunderstood, that battery life is really not quite what the experts have been saying.

They've been saying that smooth, just constant driving and, you know, not slamming on your brakes, not accelerating hard really extends life.

But what Stanford did, they went back and looked at it and said, what are the real life use of a car?

Inevitably, no matter how smooth the drive you are, there's going to be times when you have to slam on the brakes so you don't have an accident.

There's going to be times when you, you know, are accelerating hard to get on the freeway or, you know, some reason.

And they looked at it from that perspective and they said, realistically, it did a lot of things.

First of all, one of the big things from their study was that they found out that the usefulness of an electric vehicle over time does not dissipate like a standard mechanical gas engine, you know, where it wears out.

It really is as good the day you buy it and then, you know, five years later, they're saying it's really pretty, pretty...

What did they test? Batteries, electric motors? I mean, there are definitely some components that will wear, like suspension, pushing, shocks, things like that.

They're talking about battery life and the motors themselves.

Okay, so, right, so the electrification portion of it, right?

Yes.

So the rest of the car will wear and tear like anything.

And tires last forever on electric cars, as we already know.

That part I doubt for sure.

So they're looking at the longevity of the battery and, to some extent, the electric motors.

But when they studied the battery technology, they're saying, for example, you owning a watch company, do you put the battery in it, like in a watch,

and just let it do the same thing day in and day out versus, you know, putting the battery in something where it spikes power usage and then reduces power usage.

So how you drive your vehicle, like me, I use every stoplight like it's a drag race.

There you go, man.

Oh, you're like every Tesla driver out here in California.

And they see a opening the size of a motorcycle and they try and fit through it by accelerating faster and harder.

I mean, it's like, man.

Coming to work today, I had a woman driving hers like that on the freeway.

I was watching her drive.

I go, are you kidding me?

She's like using every lane, squeaking through places she should have never been.

And then we get up, you know, I happened to get off at the same exit as I and I pull up next to her.

I'm thinking, yeah, there you are.

We're right next to each other.

And it's one of those three left hand turn lanes.

You know, out here in California, there are some intersections where we have three left hand turn lanes because they're super high traffic.

And she managed from the time she turned into the turn lane till the time she got to the intersection, used all three lanes.

I mean, she went all the way over, then she moved back over to the outermost one, then she finally settled in the middle.

I'm like, oh, this woman's just got, she's got issues driving.

She should not be in a car that accelerates that hard.

But that has nothing to do with the standard study or the Stanford study or the standard study.

One of the things that it was kind of a no brainer, but they did say they proved out that letting your battery go all the way to zero or charging it all the way to full is not the best.

The optimal is 20% to 80% range.

Yes.

That part we knew as an easy owner.

And it's also true for your, for your, for your mobile phone, which I'm probably the worst one because I let my phone get down to like 10%, 5%.

And then I go home at night and I put it on the charger and let it charge all night to 100%.

And, you know, but you know what, you put it on overnight, it's going to go to 100%.

I don't know.

And yes, except if, so now, like, for example, to your point, like the newer phones, like all the new, I guess it's the new software, maybe not just the new phone, but like the iPhones, they'll slow charge at night.

So like, I pretty much just charged my phone at night and around the same time, you know, 1030 11, whatever, I put it on the charger and then.

Oh, I'm in bed by then.

Yeah, no, that's that's

I eat dinner at four and then, you know, I try to go at 10, I try to go at 10.

But, but then yeah, it goes into that mode where it says it's slow charging, it'll be, it'll be charged at like 520 in the morning or something.

So it's, it's trickle charging it, you know, which I guess is better than, than jamming the fast charger.

Do you do you plug your phone in whenever you jump in the car?

No.

So you're not charging your phone?

No, I'm not.

The newer vehicles use wireless car play.

Yeah, but you're charging it though.

Yeah, I'm not charging it.

You're putting it on a pad.

No, I don't put it on the pad and I don't plug it in.

If, if I'm, if I'm using like car play or if I'm streaming music or, or, or navigation, and I'm going, you know, like from going to San Diego or something like that, and it takes more battery.

I'll throw it on the charge pad or something like that.

You know, but for the most part, you know, my battery's been pretty good on the phone.

So I'm pretty much just charged at the one today.

I have this paranoia about my phone going dead and I need it.

And because one time I, my phone went dead and I was like, no big deal.

And then I was sitting there at the event I was at and I went, oh, shit, I brought an Uber here.

You know, and I'm like, the only way I can get an Uber to go home is to have my phone work, you know?

Yeah.

And it's, and that's one of those things you can't say, hey, Matt, can I borrow your phone?

I got to order an Uber because then you're paying for it, not me.

Oh, I'd happily get you an Uber.

I was going to say, you can always call me and I'll get you an Uber, but you can't call me if your phone's dead.

That's right.

I'd have to go up to somebody and go, hey, man, can I use your phone in there?

Like, oh, yeah, right.

You're going to clone it and you're going to, you know,

I mean, when your phone's dead, you just feel how helpless you feel.

I know.

You're like, what do I do?

Like you're constantly just looking down and going, I got to reach out to somebody.

I got to do this.

I got to do that.

You know what the other problem would be?

I'd be like, I'll call Matt.

He'll help me out.

Oh, shit.

What's Matt's phone number?

It's on my phone.

I don't know.

How would you call?

How would you even call me?

You got to borrow somebody else's phone.

You can borrow somebody else's phone, but I don't know your phone.

I'd go, do you have Matt's number in here?

I'd have to find somebody at the event that knew you.

Yeah.

Can you imagine that?

That should be like a challenge.

Like, okay, you're at an event.

You have to call this person without using your own phone.

So you got to find somebody at the event that knows somebody who knows somebody who knows them.

Yeah.

It could be like a great party thing to get people to talk, you know what?

Come up with that, Matt.

Make a million bucks.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Back to the Stanford plating happens when the battery overheats or it's just constant,

which made me think, what about these semi trucks that are going to be over the road

semis that are electric and they are just cruising down the road constant?

Then what happens?

They come to an uphill, tell me their battery doesn't overheat or get hot because they're

coming up to a big uphill.

Then they go constant.

It seems to me like those might suffer from fatigue on their batteries over time or much

quicker.

Yeah.

I think when you start getting into the semi trucks or anything that big, probably even

the cars that we have now, you get more and more sophisticated battery management.

Thank you.

Failed saves for cooling.

Yeah.

Cooling.

By the way, if you're out and it's cold weather, there's a preheating process.

You get the batteries up to temperature and then make sure they don't overheat or they

don't freeze.

That's a big thing for having an EV start to follow.

People talking about range going, hey, it's snowing outside.

It's super cold, plus the charging process.

I've read a lot recently on the for lightning EV forum, people going, I wouldn't charge

this thing.

What normally takes like a 30 minute fast charge is like, I've been here for an hour

and I got 15% battery or whatever it is and I'm like, yeah, it doesn't.

It's really slow to charge in the cold.

There's going to be some issues.

You're saying this Stanford test though is saying just constant steady state use like

a 70 mile an hour, 300 mile drive, if that's all you did, is worse on the battery than

driving it around town where you're constantly accelerating and stopping and going and ...

Yes.

Yeah.

That's what they're ... Matt, I have a link to the actual study if you'd like to read

it for yourself.

If you'd like to go through this 1200 page study and bring us back some nuggets for

next time, I can send it to you.

If they can just narrow it down to six bullet points, that would be great.

Maybe ChadGPT can do it.

Yeah, it probably could.

It could probably create a podcast about it for us.

We could just go listen to our third member right now or our fourth member.

Let's say Jeep just unveiled their all-electric Jeep and it's fast.

It's got 600 and something horsepower and 0 to 16, 3.6 seconds, but it has off-road capability

like you'd expect from Jeep.

But it's 250 miles of range and I thought the point of the Jeep was like kind of going

off the grid and the Moab version is probably 230 miles of range and to your point, that's

with 100% charge, not with 80% charge.

And that's an oxymoron going off the grid in an electric vehicle.

Yeah, right.

Kind of impossible.

So the idea of having an electric car for a round town city driving commutes the work

and stuff makes far more sense, but I don't know.

It's just like in the US, we love our big SUVs and people, especially since COVID lockdown,

people were going on road trips and spending more time on the road and going off-road

and weekend getaways and we like doing that.

We like having vehicles for that.

EV doesn't really cater to that quite as well.

No, not right now.

That's for sure.

It's not working.

But there's going to be studies like this from time to time.

They're going to keep refuting and diluting and getting all the information they can.

And the EVs are going to keep changing, as you just said.

They're going to get better.

They're going to get long.

Everybody, every vehicle that comes out now, what do we see?

Our range is this.

But you're right.

It's always quoted at 100%.

The most interesting one that's coming out is the Ram Charger.

I think it's, or maybe they changed the name again to Rev, but instead of, so it's not

just a gas engine vehicle.

It's not a pure electric vehicle and it's not a hybrid in the sense that there's a gas

engine that powers the vehicle and then electric motors that also power the vehicle.

The Ram Charger is an electric vehicle that's powered by electric motors, but then has a

V6 under the hood, which is just a range extender.

Now, the V6 does not power the vehicle, cannot move the vehicle on its own.

It's not connected to the driveline.

This is an electric vehicle, electric motors, and the range extender just charges the battery

and it can.

It's just a generator, basically.

It is, but because they used a full V6 engine for it is because when you when you're towing

and stuff, it will generate more power.

So it'll increase its RPM for more power.

So now you're getting an electric vehicle, which to your point is overall wear and tear

maintenance all lowered, right?

And then the V6 engine, sure, it's going to have its normal wear and tear, but not to

the extent of it was powering the full vehicle.

And it's like five or six hundred miles of range.

I forgot what it was specifically on the combined battery and gas tank.

How often does the V6 need to tune up in an oil change?

I that's it's actually a good question.

I know you're made like a little sarcastic.

But I mean, a little sarcastic, but because it's not being used as a full motor, right?

So I think the maintenance schedule is going to be significantly reduced.

You know, I think there's just going to when it goes in.

Yeah, that's a good question.

I my guess is it's going to be pretty, pretty significantly less, you know, like oil changes

or something or probably they're not going to be 5,000 miles or even 10,000 miles.

It might be 15 or 20,000 miles.

And if they're smart enough to give it like enough capacity, you know,

that, you know, like oil capacity, fluid capacity, you know, but yeah,

does it also seem a little overkill like you're carrying around a V6 under the hood?

Yeah, you know, with, you know, a radiator and coolant and oil and everything.

And then you have electric motors and you have electric battery.

And what is this thing way?

But the advantage is, you know, good low end torque, you know, when the gas engine

isn't on, presumably it's quieter.

Like there could be some and the distance, you know, the rain.

Yeah, yeah.

The overall range and when you're towing like people that tow with an EV normally

your your range is significantly reduced, but having that low end torque and that power

like I've I've towed a couple small trailers and stuff.

And like you you don't notice it, you know, you don't notice it at all.

You know, so yeah, anyway, that's an interesting.

Interesting direction for ramp to go.

They were going to do the full EV truck, but they killed that completely.

They're like, we're just doing the range extender version.

I don't want to say hybrid because that's misleading.

Yeah, it's it's a well, it's like we said.

Just a second ago, they're changing and everything's kind of being reinvented

right away as we as we talk.

You know, you just brought up Ram and started talking about that.

Are you sending an email into Ram Ram racing trucks for a seat in their truck?

You know, motorsports at ram trucks.com is where you send it, man.

There you go.

You know, because of the amount of free time, I'm going to think I'm going to do that.

I need a career change.

I'm going to become a professional race truck driver.

Well, remember, it's only temporary.

You just get to drive one race.

But if you won that race and and definitively, you could you could it could be.

He comes out.

We've never even seen him behind the wheel of a truck before doing this.

And he wins decisively by two laps in the lead.

It's a cool looking truck.

But yeah, so if you want to be a race truck driver,

you can apply or you can just build your own.

But you can also apply and be in the Craftsman Truck Series driving one of their.

Now, what they're going to do is they call it their free agent program.

And they're going to have a mix up of unknown and up and comers

and then some unexpected cameos like, you know, they've asked Matt and I to come

and just, you know, just, you know, do a couple laps and.

And and that's probably not the best solution if they want to win.

Well, no, no, no.

That's why they're just doing a couple laps.

We're going to be riding in the back while somebody capable is driving.

So yeah, we're just going to be waving.

I didn't say we're going to be driving.

Come on, you know, now you're putting me on the spot.

The the thing about it is pretty cool.

I mean, it's we knew they were getting back into truck racing as a lead

into getting back into NASCAR, hopefully.

And it's kind of cool that they're going to do this and get some other guys in

there and give a chance.

And it's smart for them because they they get to mix it up and get a lot of PR

because what they're going to do is announce it on a Monday before a race.

So it'll be like, you know, who's going to be this week?

Yeah. Yeah, it'd be good.

It'd be fun. Tony Stewart and Leah, they're coming out.

They're going to, you know, who knows?

Yeah. So Tony.

Can he drive it? Does he know how to drive a truck?

I don't know.

I don't even can drive fucking anything else.

Why not a truck?

There they've been alluding, speaking of them,

they've been alluding to the fact that they're going to drop some information,

some news here very soon that's going to just blow everybody away.

And I don't have any idea what that is.

But have you seen those things?

I think I think that a one year old Dominic is going to start racing.

Maybe that's the news.

Yeah, he's driving pro stock.

He's driving pro stock.

They're trying to figure out how he can reach the pedals, but he's ready to go.

That's that'd be awesome.

The you know what?

We have spoke here on the show about Montana license plates.

Yes. But before we go any farther, we should probably take a break, Matt.

All right.

Because I'm I'm I'm whipped at this point.

We need to take a break.

I need to, you know, all right, we'll be right back.

All right, we're back.

Woo, man, I needed that.

Took a nice little nap, got had a sandwich.

And we are back.

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You see them on a lot of big motor coaches, motor homes.

You see them on exotic cars.

And as we've spoken the past, the reason is because Montana, if you.

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L.C. in the state of Montana and you have that corporation there.

You can have your motor coach or your exotic car or cars as the assets of that

corporation, their taxes are very low and there's just so many advantages to it.

And we spoke about a friend of mine who asked me about it and I kind of, I

kind of told him probably not the greatest of ideas because they were starting

to close that loophole, registering the cars there and getting out of your

state tax as well.

Just this past week in Tennessee, Cody, I hope I'm saying this right,

Deepwaller, Deepwiler, who you may know as Whistlin Diesel on YouTube and on

Instagram and things like that.

He was arrested for tax evasion and it was for avoiding to pay sales tax on

his Ferrari that he had, which was about $30,000.

And it was because he registered it in Montana under an LLC.

And now I don't think he should have been arrested for that.

I think he should have been arrested for how he destroys all these perfectly

good cars, including that Ferrari, blowing them up, beating them with

hammers and things like that, which I still can't wrap my head around.

I don't know about you, Matt, I understand the guys who are out there and

they're like our buddy who takes these junk cars or flooded cars and reinvigorates

them and rebuilds them and things like that.

But these guys who take these perfectly good cars and it's just because you

look at it and you go, that's a $300,000 car that he just threw a hammer

through the window or did this or did that and totally destroy him just for

the sake of getting views.

I just, yeah, it's not my thing.

It obviously works, but it's like, I can see it maybe a Mustang.

You know, if you took a really rare Cobra or Shelby or something like that,

but never a Chevy, never a Chevy.

Never a Chevy, never a Ferrari.

I don't know.

I haven't, I'm not familiar with the guy.

I haven't watched this channel, but I'm not really, you know, I'm not super

interested in seeing those cars be destroyed.

I'm sure it's interesting, but you see it in film, but you're like, ah, that car

was fake and you get it and it was stripped out and whatever, you know.

Right.

But in these, like he did one recently where he was at a regional airport and I

kind of ran across this guy.

I think Aaron might have turned me on to him and I, and I was, and he, and he

had this giant slingshot setup.

He had two bulldozers and all those like slingshot type, you know, rubber bands,

you know, um, and he would back a car into him as far as he could and then let

it, as he was accelerating off, it would also catapult him.

But like he used different cars.

One of them was like a 69 charger.

That car, it didn't hurt that car hardly at all, man, because it's built, you

know, steel bumpers and all that.

But then he took a Lamborghini and I was like, Oh, this isn't going to go good.

And he backed it into it and that whole carbon fiber back in with the diffuser

panel and the wing and everything just got ripped off, you know.

And he's like, Oh, ha, ha, ha.

If I pulled in and my diffuser on my Lamborghini just scraped as I pulled

into a parking lot, I'd be like, Oh my God, you know, but of course, I don't

have 10 million viewers who are, you know, I'm making a million dollars

while I'm destroying a $300,000 car.

I guess like, I get it.

There's, there's, there's a business model there.

There's money to be made.

I like cars more than that.

So I'm not really into that's how I am.

Yeah, I'm just, you're right.

Like Tavaresh, I'm a much bigger fan of what, what he does and rebuilding

some of these things than I am some of the ones like, I don't know, Goldberg

and I were talking about it.

And when the, when the Ram TRX came out and somebody bought it to try to jump

a ravine or something and broke it and bend it in half.

Or I don't know if it was the TRX or the Raptor.

I was like, I'm not, I really don't care to watch that video.

It doesn't really do anything for me.

But, you know, there's, plus there's not like, there's not like good story there.

You know, it's just like, I always look at like, everything's got to be a hit.

Cause I mean, if you destroy that Ferrari and people are like, yeah, I'm over it.

Or yeah, that wasn't that exciting to me.

And it doesn't get enough hits.

You're like, well, well, I just destroyed a $300,000 car.

And that one didn't go over that well.

So, so this guy buys a Ferrari, he destroys it and puts it on YouTube.

And then the state or the government is coming after him for the state of Tennessee

because they didn't get their $30,000 because first of all, we see the Montana

plates on it. He says it's his car.

He has 10 million followers.

So he's in the public eye and they go, wait a minute.

And they know he's in Tennessee.

Tennessee, right?

They check their records.

You hear the clicking of the keys.

And all of a sudden it's, hey, let's go get this guy for tax evasion.

Now, is that, I mean, I think that's extreme.

I think it's one of those where you send them a notice and say, you didn't,

you know, you can't have this.

You got to pay it anyway, blah, blah, blah.

Well, so that could be part of the story.

That wasn't made public, right?

Is how many times did they reach out?

He claims nothing.

He claims that no one ever reached out.

They just came and arrested him.

Maybe he should be checking.

Because he's a high profile figure and they wanted to make an example of him.

Maybe he hasn't been checking the mail at his Montana LLC.

Maybe he burned up his, yeah, there you go, his Montana LLC.

You know, there's got to be a mailbox there.

He's not checking because he thinks it's all fine.

It's all stuffed full of notices and things like that.

But, you know, this, this is something as we've talked about.

It's, it's starting to get recognized by the states.

They're losing revenue.

California is jumping on it really heavy.

And now Utah just passed a law just in light of this instance that, oh yeah,

you can't do that anymore.

And, you know, they're realizing that these supercars have expensive license

plates and why are they going to Montana?

Well, they're going to Montana because then they defer that cost.

And Montana makes a little bit of money off of it by, you know, reducing the prices

down so much and, you know, people forget supercars, big motor coaches,

things that cost $500, $600, $1 million or more.

I talk to people all the time that have never been around those cars or have

been around them but never owned anything like that or had friends who owned them

that they literally don't realize, oh yeah, you got to cost the car, but then

every year you got to pay plates of how much, you know, and it's, they're crazy.

Like in California, you're almost 10%.

So if you have a $600,000 supercar, every single year you're paying $600,000,

not to mention the luxury tax on top of it of, I think it's $10,000 now.

Just, just anything over a certain price, any vehicle over a certain price.

And if you're lucky enough to have multiples of those and, and a motor coach

that you take your family out in and stuff like that, yeah, you're paying

some big bucks.

So you do look for ways to defer it just like you do with your income tax, you

know, you have people that you pay to figure that stuff out, but it's closing.

It's, it's, they're, they're fixing the glitch.

I have a feeling that he will get, he'll probably have to pay some fines and some

fees, but, you know, he's not going to go to jail for seven years, like they said,

you know, you know, yeah, they just want the money and they want to make.

Although that's what Capone said too, when they got him for tax evasion.

Yeah, he didn't have a Montana LLC.

Yeah, he was wrong.

He screwed up, but it's, it's interesting.

It's, it's really interesting how these things like this, I mean, this has been

going on for decades, 40 years, you know, 40, 30 years at least, that we've seen.

It really started out with the expensive pre-vose motor coaches and things like

that, where you have a million dollar or two or three million dollar coach that

they did.

And you know, who did it very first were the companies that leased out the

coaches to the big bands?

And I don't mean like Jimmy Dorsey.

I mean, large rock bands, not big bands.

And I just lost half the audience with that one.

Who the hell is Dorsey?

So anyway, Dodgers are the world champs, man.

Oh, I heard that.

Yeah, I just threw that in there.

I just, that's, you know, my sports knowledge for today.

And, and, uh, we got sports betting back and guys are trying to ruin it already.

Yeah.

I don't know if you knew that.

I did not.

With all these side bets and getting the players involved and God, it's like every

day now there's a new, a new coach, new player, new, new college athlete or something.

Do you know what, I know we're not sports guys that much, but have you followed

what now that, that college players can be paid?

How much some of these football players are making?

I mean, like, no, I haven't at all.

I know.

I know Nebraska because that's where I'm from.

The, the quarterback last year was his first year at Nebraska.

He's making like three and a half million dollars a year salary.

Plus he gets all these endorsements and stuff.

And I'm like, are you allowed to do that?

I haven't thought.

I know you can't salary.

I thought you can get just endorsements, the NIL.

No, no, no.

They, the schools actually pay these guys now.

They pay them to come with them, pay, come to our school.

We'll give you three and a half million a year.

You know, I mean, it's like, how are these guys?

I mean, how do you at 18 years old and you're making that kind of money?

Plus you're supposed to be going to school.

How does that even work?

I don't know.

That's weird.

It's pretty crazy, pretty crazy.

What do you got on, what do you got going?

You had some stuff to talk about.

It's weird this today.

You know, some stuff that I thought was kind of interesting

that popped up in the news.

Ford Racing has been talking about a new production road car for 2026.

I don't know if this is going to be the tempo rally car with an 850

horsepower GTD motor, the new probe supercar could be a new four GT,

a gen three four GT.

Well, we also know that they have been.

They have been testing a higher horsepower, more aggressive version

of the Ford Mustang GTD at the Nurburgring.

There's been some some spy photos of that car and it has the big

heat extractors on the hood, which are removable.

So the the grill that's in there is removable.

Somebody got a photo through that hole.

And it looks like it's got the whippled supercharger on it instead

of the factory TVS supercharger.

So they're going after the ZR one, you know, a Nurburgring number.

So I don't know what it's going to be.

Jim Farley, when I interviewed him a while ago, teased at possibly

a sort of an off-road version of a Mustang like the Porsche 911

Dakar, but a Mustang version.

But it wouldn't be that because they said a, excuse me, a road production car.

So I don't think they would say road production car, even though it would be

street legal, I just don't think that's what they meant.

So I don't know.

We'll see what's what could be interesting from from Ford Ford racing.

I just interviewed the head of Carl Whitman.

He is the the head of production vehicles for Ford racing.

Mostly he was talking about the Raptor program, for example, 15 year

anniversary of the Raptor program.

And those cars fall under the Ford racing umbrella.

It used to be like SVT, you know, the special vehicle team.

But now it's all under the Ford racing umbrella.

And then there's the motorsports side.

There's the Ford that is the production car side.

So things like a GT 500 or a GT 350, you know, the Ford GT, probably the Raptor

program all kind of falls, falls under under his under his team.

So, you know, he did not let the cat out of the bag and tell me he was doing a

new supercar despite me asking, what are you guys doing over there?

And he was like, you know, stuff.

Was he holding a black bag with a cabinet that was going for you?

Yeah, right.

Yeah, so there's a little bit of that going on.

Yeah, the Porsche Dakar, the Peugeot Lecar, you know, the the the higher end

brand companies we've seen SUVs now from Porsche, Ford, Ford, Ferrari,

Pure Songway, that Aaron was talking about driving his dad's.

You know, who never, ever, ever build one?

I don't know who.

I well, you know, if I was to say somebody who would never build a

performance SUV, I would have to say, McDonald's.

I mean, if I was to put a make Lotus has done their EV version.

Porsche has done theirs.

Lamborghini has done theirs.

McLaren hasn't done one and said that's what I meant.

Did I say McDonald's?

I meant McLaren.

But now they are.

They are doing one.

So McLaren is working on an SUV.

Of course, the press release was.

What about Pagani?

You think they'll make one?

Pagani, I don't know that.

I honestly, I wouldn't say no to that.

If somebody came in and said, whatever it takes, I will pay for it.

They go, OK, we'll draw one up here for you.

You know, yeah, right?

Because it wouldn't be, you know, a Pagani SUV wouldn't be that far

fetched, you know, because like I was thinking of like

Spiker as the lesser expense of Pagani, right?

And I think before Spiker went out of business, they had a concept vehicle

of an SUV and it had a lot of the cool, like very sort of mechanical

looking features and stuff.

So I don't know, like Pagani.

You're right.

I think you happen to the Spikers.

I mean, the ones they did sell, they're like nonexistent.

You never see them anywhere.

And they're starting to pop up at auction.

They're getting money.

Yeah. Yeah.

They're cool little cars.

You see them up at Monterey every year.

And it's it's one of those cars that like caught Adam Crowley's attention

going, why aren't these things getting more money?

And now that they're starting to get some money, he's he's noticed.

He's like, yeah, that makes sense.

They were cool cars.

And they're and they're so limited, you know, they were always very limited.

And speaking of Adam Corolla, what the hell, man?

I saw a picture of him yesterday that was put up online of him jumping a BMX

bike and it was all about how, yeah, he raced BMX in North Hollywood

and hung out at such such a bike shop and that his dad used to take him

and the local guys to the track and stuff.

How is it that I've talked to Adam a hundred times and that has never come up?

Not even in interviews on the show or anything.

I would think it would have come up somehow, some way, but it was.

Yeah, I don't interesting.

I mean, everything makes sense, except for the part where you said his dad

used to take him to the track and do stuff.

I don't know.

Maybe it was somebody else's dad.

I think it's probably probably Jimmy's dad.

Probably Kimmel's dad.

It was probably Adam and and well, he didn't know Kimmel back then.

But some of his other buddies, you know, maybe like Ray or somebody like that.

I don't know.

I was trying to I was trying to find it here as I talked to you.

And I'm trying to remember what it was posted under.

But it's it's funny how those things come up and you see them and you go, wow,

that's crazy.

Um, but.

Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I knew it was a little bit into it, but I didn't know he was that into it.

Not like you, Brad.

Well, you know, we can't can't all be totally into it.

Look, look, look, if he would have stayed with BMX, maybe he would have made it

somewhere, you know, I mean, yeah.

Oh, wait, that's me.

I stayed with BMX and didn't didn't follow it yet.

But the guy who put the photo up and was friends with him back then

said that he goes, he goes, you can always tell he was intelligent because he had

a had a sense of humor that was always like different than all of ours, you know?

Yeah.

But so so back to Donald's coming out with their.

Yeah, McLaren wants to do an SUV.

It's probably going to be a V8 hybrid.

I was just going to ask how many cylinders.

Yeah, it's a looks like it's going to be a V8 hybrid.

Be interesting.

You know, of course, they're going to go, hey, it has to perform like a like a

McLaren needs to do all three seat eight passenger.

No, it's not going to be a three row.

It's five five seats, two row sort of Porsche Cayenne style.

Porsche Cayenne turbo or Porsche Cayenne seats backwards like they used to have

in the 1970s in the station wagons.

Yeah, you know, where you you could see the car hitting you as it came in.

Like the little was it?

You remember those in the station wagons?

The the seats in the back that, you know, for the kids and it faced the back window.

It didn't face the other way.

That was sort of the weird thing.

It sounds cool. I mean, it sounds cool.

Listen, I I I don't mind that they do it.

I hope it becomes a success for them because I think if they're

if they're a financial success with something like the SUV,

you'll continue to get great sports cars from them.

Yeah, yeah.

It's they need money.

They need they need like a band needs one of those songs that goes to the charts,

but maybe it's not like their normal music or something like that.

You know, it's they need something like that.

And I think we're kind of over the stigma of of these

these super car companies having an SUV and going, oh, you don't need the SUV.

That's dumb. Ferrari did it.

I don't know if it's selling well or not.

But I see the Aston Martin all the time now.

Yes, the Martin.

I see the DBX. That thing is cool.

It is. It's really nice.

It's very subtle.

When you see it in a dark color, you got to look really hard to even see what it is.

But it's it's gorgeous.

It's nice. It's nice to drive.

I think that's a cool vehicle.

Matt, A-list actors and like that never used to do commercials here in the states.

They did them overseas, but not here.

And then they found out, hey, that's how you make money.

A lot of it. And now they're doing everything.

I mean, I saw one doing something about

if you're constipated the other day, I was like, well, she's doing constipation ads.

I was like, wow.

I'm trying to think of like, who doesn't in the US?

I would say like Tom Cruise and Leo DiCaprio.

I don't think they've done that not Leo.

But you know, who else doesn't do them?

I haven't seen.

Oh, God, I hate getting old and I can't remember names.

I can see the guy in my head.

Happy Gilmore.

Oh, Adam Sandler.

Adam Sandler. I've never seen him do an ad.

Yeah, that's true.

I haven't seen him do an ad.

No, but Clooney does the Nespresso.

He does him. He does him.

I mean, you know, this past Super Bowl, we saw Harrison Ford do the Jeep commercial.

Yes, the Jeep commercial. Yes.

You know, you know, back in the day, was it the Chrysler one that Clint Eastwood?

Yeah. Right.

So I mean, it's it's pretty much few and far between that don't do them.

And and I'm sure if the right one came along,

the people we just talked about would probably all go, yeah, yeah, I'd do that.

Yeah, for sure, man. It's yeah.

Now, I overseas, though, I don't know what's what's going on.

I know a lot of actors do like commercials in some of the Asian countries,

maybe Japan in the 80s, Japan was I mean, that was like you would see commercials

from really well-known actors and stuff like that.

You know, I think there was I think there was a

you know what there might have been one with like Martin Scorsese, Leonardo DiCaprio,

and Robert De Niro, they making fun of like each other or something or making

fun of like their celebrity brand new one that just came out.

Yeah, I think that you are absolutely right.

Now that you mentioned it, I just saw that.

It's it's a spoof on them trying to all

try and get a spot in a film and I forget what the product is, you know.

You're right. I don't even remember the problem.

There's part of the problem.

If you put somebody that's too famous or too many people that are famous in it,

you know the commercial, but you don't know what it was for.

And that's just totally goes right.

So I guess it has done a commercial.

Totally not car related.

But have you seen the Netflix documentary on Eddie Murphy?

I haven't watched it yet.

I've seen a lot of news about it.

I haven't watched it.

I watched it the other night and

one of the most interesting things that I pulled out of it.

There were a lot of interesting things.

And and it's a good thing Eddie Murphy doesn't have an ego, you know, because I'm

who and he but the one was he goes is here I am.

I'm like this 20 year old black guy.

And and he goes, I made this, you know, Beverly Hills cop.

And he goes all of a sudden my agents calling me going, hey, Eddie,

you know, so and so would like to have lunch with you over at the Beverly Hills

Hilton or, you know, and he goes, it was all the who's who of Hollywood.

Men and women, you know.

And he goes and he goes, it's kind of like, OK, yeah.

And we'd get there and they'd be like,

so what do we talk about?

You know, it was like he goes, I'd be like, so what's up?

What would you want?

And they're like, I don't know.

And he goes, it was just they wanted to be seen poolside or table side with Eddie

Murphy, you know, because they were at the end of their career.

And he goes, here I am starting up.

And I was not only the young upstart, but I was a black guy, you know.

And then he goes, and this is where he's ego.

You know, he goes, he goes, be like me, be like me, you know, at my stage,

calling some twenty two year old actor or something.

And he goes like, hell, I don't even know any other names.

But hey, let's do lunch.

I'm like, oh, my God, but he is funny.

He's funny. Yeah, I'm going to have to watch that.

And it was really good.

There's just one part where he pulls out these

these marionettes and one of them is Richard Pryor and one of them is Bill Cosby.

And I mean, he goes, because sometimes I just sit around like I'm having a three

way conversation with them and I'm like, wow, you know, it's like and he starts

talking with him and he's got the voices down and everything, you know.

And it's it's pretty crazy that sounds a little weird.

It's really weird at points at points.

You feel real uncomfortable, but it's just it's back, you know, when

Saturday Night Live was just so, you know, like, you know, I forgot that he was.

There was that first one, you know, you had

Belushi and you had, you know, Ackroyd and all those guys, then they left.

And then you had him and, you know, Joe, Joe Piscopo and Eddie Murphy and all

those guys came in and it's really interesting because you look at that

first round of actors that came in to do it and almost all of them became superstars.

Then the next one, it's like, I didn't know those people, but Eddie Murphy went big,

you know, he went huge and Joe Piscopo went in a different direction.

He went, remember when he went into bodybuilding?

It was that old weird thing?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was just a weird deal.

But yeah, he wasn't Johnny dangerously, though.

So I'm down with that.

So anyways, it was crazy.

And I didn't realize that he was one of the creators of Miami Vice.

Was he? Did you?

No.

Yeah, I had no idea that that was, you know,

it's his idea, basically.

I did not know that.

That's because I just made it up and I know how much you like Miami Vice.

I did, you know, they're going to be doing a reboot.

And the the the word is

Austin Butler and Michael B. Jordan.

Really?

And but this time when they reboot it,

unlike the Colin Farrell one, I think they're going to do it in the like the old one.

Yeah, they're going to make it.

They're not going to try and reinvent it.

Yeah.

I mean, the movie was OK, but it had so many dead spots where you just went, oh,

my God, come on, man, you know, and it was just another action movie.

You know, it wasn't that didn't have that.

What are they going to drive?

What do you think they'll drive, man?

I mean, you know, they get a lot of place in Miami.

I don't see how they couldn't.

It's literally going to be called Miami Vice if it was in Cleveland.

I don't think I don't think it would make Miami Cleveland.

We're in Miami Cleveland, man.

It's a suburb of Cincinnati.

And yeah, no, I wonder what they'll drive.

Hey, does it got to be a Ferrari?

Yes, it does, doesn't it?

It does.

Does that be a Tester Rosa?

I mean, if they're going to know the film period, correct,

they absolutely need to use the same.

Well, if they're going to do a period, correct, if it's supposed to be in the 80s.

Yeah, so if it's during the cow,

co-co-king cowboy days, then it's it's a no hunter.

But if they bring it to modern day,

wouldn't it be cool if like they go into like this impound area and there's this

white Ferrari Tester Rosa sitting there and and he goes, yeah, look at that one.

And they go, no, no, no, you're getting the SUV.

Yeah, you're going to get the pure song, right?

You're going to get a white SUV.

He's like, I want the white Tester Rosa thing.

No, no, no, we're going to blow that one up.

I think it's I think it would be fun if they do it period, correct.

Because, you know, it's just like, you know, you got to have the phone in the car.

There's no cell phones.

You know, there's no wireless kind of, you know, like it's got to be tethered.

Maybe they'll bring the whole fashion back, you know, and that's kind of kind of how

you got to do it, you know, maybe I could try and get, you know, to be the boss.

You know, the captain, the cap.

What was his name? Castillo.

Castillo, but I'm trying to think of the actor.

He went on to do all kinds.

Edward James Olmos.

God, you got it down, man.

How many credits did he do, Matt?

And what's his IMDB rating?

The, no, it's God, that just brings back so many memories.

I mean, if you do it, you do it period, correct.

You've got to load it up with all the right cars and the right fashion.

You got to use the music less now.

It won't be as much the license won't be as expensive.

Yeah, no, you got to have the cars.

You got to have the everything, the fashion, the music.

Yeah.

The architecture hasn't really changed, so that'll be pretty easy.

It's still Miami in most places, looks like.

Well, I mean, these days, it's like you just film all the exterior shots and then

you, you know, you see GI and everything to make it look newer and all the neon actually works.

It's not half broken sign and like, you know, you just freshen it all up.

Like you can you can just came up with this week's cartoon.

OK, I got it, man.

I see a white Tester Rosen, Brad and Brad and Matt.

I know what this week's cartoon is going to be, everyone.

So watch for it on on on Instagram on Instagram.

So I think I think we can wrap it up on that, man.

Pal, I think we can wrap it up with that, pal.

Yeah, thanks, pal.

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