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and this week the gang is all back together. Yes. Both of the guys are with me, Ryan and Dan. Hi

guys. How are you? Good to see you. Just back from my shift at Best Buy. I haven't done any stunts

at any movies and stuff. So I feel like I might be letting you guys down tonight. Yeah. But a good

show last week. Thanks, Robert. Thank you. Yeah. But I feel like you were out doing your best

impression of a stunt driver because you had a pretty interesting road to SEMA, which I also

want to hear about. But can you tell us a little bit about the very adventurous, very exciting

route that you took to get to this very unique event? Yeah. So we went to SEMA the hard way

and I say the hard way and I say we. I was actually a passenger princess for the journey. So

I didn't actually drive, but I was kind of in a leadership role. But SEMA obviously is the world's

biggest automotive trade show. It takes place once a year in our favorite place, Vegas.

And we organized a rally where we decided that we would go to SEMA but not do tarmac.

Not at all. Well, I think we traveled 200 miles of which probably about 30 miles of tarmac.

That counts as no tarmac for sure. Yeah. And if you think about it, it was long days. It was like

nine, 10 hour days in the desert. Wow. So for what is normally like a four hour, five hour drive?

Yeah. So yeah. So we met in Palm Springs. We had 27 rigs of different kinds and types.

And there was everything from the folks that have got all the setup to people in stock defenders

and Lexuses. Lexuses or Lexi? We're going to go with Lexi here at that car show.

Lexi. That's right. It's official. Yeah. So we had a great tour guide, a guy called Martin.

He'd done the route the week before. So he knew what to expect, but none of us did.

We set off from Palm Springs. We ventured out to this track and he said to us like

we're going to go really quickly, but carefully for the next sort of two miles.

And that's because it was an active shooting range. So either side of the track,

people are allowed to shoot their guns. So we were safe. But yeah, it was interesting.

That's a pretty wild lead in where he's like nothing to be alarmed just with a quickness.

Nothing to see here. Move along. Right. So then we got one way to light a fire under your butts,

right? Definitely. Don't mind the live ammo. Carry on.

Definitely something that we wanted to get through. But then everyone aired down.

So we took this very seriously in terms of down to 20 PSI. Convoying, we all had rugged radios.

So rugged radios had sponsored it and given us radios. So the whole convoy was talking to each

other as we were kind of taking this trip. It was, I was a passenger in a modified F-150.

So almost like a pre-runner trophy truck type thing.

But it was, yeah, a lot of fun, a lot of camaraderie. We spent the end of day one

or stayed overnight at AutoCamp in Joshua Tree. So if you're not aware, this is a,

and I think there's a few of them around the US, but it's Airstreams.

Oh, how fun. So you all allocated your Airstream. So it's a bit of glamping.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was kind of hoping for a four seasons, but sadly that didn't turn out.

So yeah, we were glamping for the night. Each caravan had its own fire pit.

So, but it kind of felt well deserved up to day one. Right. And then day two, we had to be

on the track at 7am. That was the only way we would get to Vegas before sunset.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. So another day of off-roading, tighter trials. There were a couple of trials

that were just completely open and we were able to just go for it. In the middle of the trip,

we got to this like farm and it was an active farm that did like animal feed.

But in essence, you had like a number of massive green circles, which is where they were irrigating

and watering. But this was in like, it was like coming across a noasis. It was just unbelievable.

What is that one? It was a farm shaped oasis. A farm shaped oasis. But it was just like the aerial

views of this desert desert desert. And just these green patches, but big patches. And then

eventually we rolled into SEMA in time, which was great. But the valets, the valet looks were like,

what have you guys brought? Right. So that was our adventure pre-SEMA.

So can I interrupt real quick? Is this something you enjoyed off-roading? I mean, you are

traditionally sort of an on-road tarmac guy. Were you tempted by the taste of off-roading

nuts and honey? I mean, is this, maybe you didn't have that commercial in the UK, but

was this something you could see doing yourself and pursuing again? Was this...

Yeah, absolutely. It's, I think having a guide, it really makes it right.

So we had a really great guide. And, you know, Martin and the team kept us safe.

There was various points where they would spot for us. There's one bit where we kind of got to

this gully and there was like a big, steep, sandy hill. And they would basically coach each car

through that. And what was interesting is the actual, the car that did the best in that specific

thing, apart from the pre-runner, was a stock defender on Steelys. Really? So... Well, how timely.

That's amazing. I was going to ask you, were there any standouts kind of one way or another?

And so would you, was it like a dune, basically? Like a sand dune? Yeah, like a big steep sand hill.

I guess that's a dune, is it? Yeah. Yeah, we call them sand hills in the UK. I don't know,

that's formal or not, but I do. That's not as foreboding. I don't know.

And there's definitely, I mean, nobody says my favorite movie was Sand Hill, but here we go.

Those are cranes. Right. But you did the, you know, the very best part about this was that you

did it in someone else's vehicle, right? That's the best kind of off-roading is when you're

off-roading in someone else's truck, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's like boats, isn't it? Exactly.

It's like a lot of boats. There really is. You know, I was looking back through some of my

like defender off-roading footage today, and it really does make all the difference. Like,

I think you experienced Dan having a guide. It's just sort of this, because I don't know,

have you done much off-roading before this? A little bit, but nothing like in the UK is like

green-lanning and things like that. So, which is, is not really the same level of rugged terrain.

Is it as remote as you were on this trip? I think different remotes, but yeah. I mean,

on this trip, our cell phones didn't work the whole time. Really? That's how you know. Which was

really nice. Believe it or not. It's a nice break, right? Yeah. The reason I ask if you enjoyed it

is I've done a couple of these adventures, right? These organized things, and I absolutely love

it, right? It's a slower pace. It's, you know, I don't know. I always come back from these things

thinking, well, I'm going to go buy a Land Rover or a 4Runner or something. Of course, I never do,

because real life, but I absolutely could see getting into it. And glad to hear that you enjoyed

it too. I think the one thing for me is you develop more of a camaraderie. So, you know,

imagine if you're doing a, I don't know, a track session or you're doing a rally, you're not going

to get to that same level of camaraderie because you haven't overcome these things together. Right.

What's the strangest thing you saw out in the desert? See any UFOs or anything?

Well, I think it was that oasis, like just coming across the oasis. And then we had to

go around it respectfully. So we slowed down and we took a ride. But it's just really surreal.

Like, you know, green, the greenest, whatever it was, the greenest you've ever seen.

So you've got all these like great, you know, sandy and, and then just green, bright green.

Yeah. Yeah. There are better places for that. Deserts. But yeah.

Yeah. I'm doing something right if they're still in business. Yeah.

They were just trying to make you feel at home. They're like, we need some crop circles for Dan.

And so we're going to put a farm here.

Are those still a thing? Crop circles? Like it's all you heard about there. Okay.

Yeah. And it was people doing it, wasn't it? It was people messing with people.

That's what they ultimately like believe. That's that was the final answer for now until we hear

otherwise. But yeah. Yeah. So is that I wonder if it's like artisan animal feed? And they're like,

right, but was this grown in the deserts of Nevada? Was this from the oasis farm?

Because that is all that my dogs will eat. Come on.

That whole stretch was a date shake.

That's pretty wild. But okay. So defenders and the pre-runner trophy truck, those were the winners?

Yeah. And the Jeeps did really well. There was like three, 392 Jeeps. Is it 392?

It's the ones with the Hemi engines where they're like, this is the last version of it.

And then they go and here's a new, a new last version of it, right? But they did very well as

well. You know, if you've got anything that you can unlock the sway bar, you know, you can go down

to low, you can crawl across these rocks, you're going to do really well. Yeah. Not a lot of TIG ones

in that crew. I didn't see any. I think there was a couple of like wrecks on the side of the,

you know, the TIG ones that never made it.

Magically resembled a TIG one that had attempted going to SEMA the hard way. Well,

I love the name of the rally. Like that in itself puts a smile on your face and you know

you're in for a good time. Okay. So you had this epic adventure to then kick off yet another epic

adventure of a very different sort. So what did you think of SEMA? Like tell us everything.

My mind was blown. Have you both been to SEMA? I have not. Okay.

Ryan. I went a couple of years ago. We at the time was doing the steering committee

and we had a sponsor Swiss tracks and we thought we had won the lottery when they said here,

take our passes, our exhibitor passes to go to SEMA. Oh, wow. But you know, in retrospect,

I know why they were probably so ready to give them up. But I think for me, what colored my

experience was sort of the event before the event. We flew, we somehow got diverted to Phoenix,

Sky Harbor Airport, which I think might be the worst airport in the continental U.S.

And then we had to find a rental car along with the rest of the airport when all the flights

were delayed or canceled for some reason and then drive. So it was already like dark out.

And then we had to find the rental car, then drive to Vegas. And we got a late start because

we had to wait three or four hours before our Pelican cases came down on the carousels. And

if you've ever stood and stared at a luggage carousel for any length of time, it's hypnotic,

especially after three hours and eventually, you know, they appeared. We got in the world's

stinkiest rental car. I don't know if you've ever rented a car from like one of those cheaper

rental outfits, like a dollar or a fox or, you know, thrifty, you know, well, this was from one

of those. So the car had almost certainly like transported a dead body at some point in time,

it just maybe more than once. Yeah, yeah, too disposed of in that desert. So I will admit that

by the time we finally got to SEMA, I at least was cranky and tired. And the last thing I needed

was, you know, hotel room with, you know, the drifting 24 seven and Dan, I this is this was

my impression. I felt like I was at a party where I didn't know anyone, right? It was overwhelming.

There was it was there was too much. I didn't really speak the language for the most parts.

Certainly there was some crossover. But I just didn't really feel like it's kind of like Vegas,

right? You're your Vegas person or you're not a Vegas person. And I think SEMA is kind of the

same way. And I don't think I'm a SEMA person at heart. That said, we did have some fun. We did

the boring tunnel tunnel, which I think you did as well, which which I appreciate only for like the

the relative calm and solace of being in a Tesla, you know, in a in a cave beneath Vegas.

But it's one of those like maybe every five year things for me. If that I don't know.

I didn't get any solace in the Tesla because the lady in front thought she was auditioning for the

voice. Lord, you're trapped. I was trapped in a tunnel with a lady who was singing some sort of

thing that represented music. And I literally had no way to escape. So that was my traumatic,

boring tunnel experience. Okay, so for those who don't know, which I am one of those because

you get in line to get in the cars and they just pair you with whoever you're in line with,

because how did you end up with? Yeah, you know, the next opera singer has built a tunnel network

underneath Vegas, right, as part of his boring company. Is it a network, Dan, or is it a tunnel?

I think it's because they're opening up, I think in two months time, they're opening up the airport.

So the airport will go straight downtown. So I would call that as a network.

Well, the airport is kind of downtown. Should we say it's a budding network?

A budding network. A growing network of tunnels. And if I recall, you kind of have to take it

because there aren't a lot of options, right, to get from like one end to the other, right?

Yeah, I mean, you can walk like is your other option. But it's interesting because they haven't

quite yet got the autonomy. So at the moment, it's drivers. And then when you go in the tunnel,

you don't realize it as a passenger, but it's all lit with special lighting. And the lighting is

giving the driver signals. So if the lighting goes red, slow down. If the lighting goes green,

speed up. So you're oblivious to it initially, but I started talking to a different lady who

wasn't singing like a banshee. And she was explaining what all these lights meant in the tunnels.

Interesting. Not just for a show. No, no, it's not just there for your entertainment. It was, yeah.

Well, maybe be glad you had singing because I kept waiting for something to happen. Like it was

like a like a dark ride in an amusement park. I kept waiting for something like jump out.

The boring tunnel jumpscares.

I mean, I guess the name kind of says it all.

But the size of the show, you can't comprehend how big. It's almost like an airport,

like a big airport. And there's outside and inside. So big convention halls inside.

And then there's at least two tracks with continuous rubber being burnt.

So people are either doing, you know, drift examples or they're like, there was just so much

going on. I probably did about 18,000 steps a day. So my feet were absolutely, you know,

shot to pieces. A few highlights though. Subaru did reveal the new Jim Carna car.

So Travis Pastrana has been in Australia. It was a bit of a badly kept secret because

I ended up being with Travis a few months ago. And he said, yeah, I'm about to film this Jim Carna.

And I said, oh, where is it? And he went, I can't tell you. And then about 10 minutes later,

he bumped into a buddy of his who he'd worked with on Jim Carna. And just when they finished

talking to each other, one, this guy said to Travis, I'll see you in Australia then.

That's out of the bag. But it's a Subaru brat.

So I think the video goes live in a couple of weeks.

That's pretty cool. That's because that gets me excited. Right? Yeah. I like that.

So that was revealed. The Hoonigan folks had a big courtyard with, I think Hoonigan is now part

of a wider company that does all sorts from wheels to suspension. So under the umbrella,

Hoonigan, they had all the different sections. Leah Block had her GR Corolla. Incidentally,

Ryan, are you missing yours? I think I've thought about it daily, honestly. And I'm actually writing

an article for Autoblog about it now. Tentatively titled, can an old man GR Corolla? You need to

get it in. They're great. Right. Well, I also have an asterisk because, you know, I'm not quite

ready to join that category, that demographic. But no, it was fantastic. It was a fantastic car.

But I don't want to go drive the Type R Civic in all its competition. Sorry. So Leah's car was

there. She's modifying a GR Corolla. So a couple of the Ken Block cars. So the 43 Institute were

there, which is great. They do great work. They're obviously a charity in Ken's name.

And then you just go through different halls with different, it's a bit geeky. So if you're not

really into the trade stuff, so there's a whole hall on tyres. And all it is is different tyre

companies. And they might have a show car or two, which is pretty cool. But then they've got the

machines for fitting the tyres. Another hall for detailers. So the agreeos, you know, all those

sorts of folks have got different stands. Yeah. So you can remember, you can really dive deep and

whatever your area of interest is. Yeah. And like, very granular, it sounds like. I remember going

into some of these halls, though, and just praying that no one would come up to me and like want to

speak the language with me. Scan your badge. They want to scan your badge. Right. Oh, that's right.

That's right. Yeah. That's right. What's that all about? You just get spam.

Oh, okay. So they email you after they've scanned your badge. Yeah. Yeah. And so there weren't many

manufacturers there, but there was a big Toyota presence. Interesting. Yeah. So that was pretty

cool. They launched the new RAV4 GR edition, which doesn't have a, it's not a fully blown

GR. So I think they call it GR edition or something. So in essence, it's a RAV4.

It's got Corolla suspension on it, I believe, but no change in the engine. But it's got like a little

spoiler at the back. You need to look it up. But it was a cool car. Yeah, it was the official

launch, I think. The spoiler, that's how you know it's good. That's right. Obviously needs the

downforce being, you know, SUV with a ride height and a... Right. I just can't imagine.

Was it the Mitsubishi Pajero or whatever? Yeah. You know, it's good enough for the RAV4 GR.

So I think you're right. It's like Vegas. You don't want to go every year.

Yeah. Yeah. What is it about Vegas? I mean, it's like the strip club of cities, right? You just

feel like you're just getting like scammed at every, you know, corner. You have to be on guard.

Yeah, I work too hard for my money. And everyone says Vegas is like crazy, crazy expensive now,

right? Like they just, they tack on fees for this and for that. And you know, I just,

I don't know, maybe it's fun when you're on the company dime, but just of all the places you can

spend your time, Vegas is just not, you got to, you got to go once, right? You got to go once.

Right. Do it right. Yeah. Because you can't explain it. Like you have to experience it,

which it sounds like SEMA is a bit like that. Like you can't fully appreciate it unless you've

experienced it yourself. I think we can agree they both elicit very strong reactions. They're

very polarizing. Like, like you said, Ryan, people either love them or hate them. And I think people

say that about Vegas as well. So the one thing I kept seeing on Instagram from like other car

journalists and things and people who had maybe never been there before, maybe had been there 10

times was they didn't really have anything to say, like illustrate their photos. So the phrase I

saw over and over again was, well, SEMA is a wrap. So there wasn't any, like, and I wouldn't, that's,

that's not typical of SEMA. So I wonder if it was just this year. Usually they're like, well,

we saw XYZ or this was notable or good builds. Yeah. Yeah. That's the other thing SEMA is famous

for, right? The builds, right? Far apart. It's not like all the builds are in one place, if I recall,

right? So you kind of have to, it's kind of a scavenger hunt to find the good stuff, right? And

you know, it's the SEMA scavenger hunt. So Dan, did you see like, did you get a chance to check out

some of the builds and what did you see and what were your thoughts? Yeah, there was all sorts of

crazy builds. So one was a lowered Hummer, I think it had six wheels, but it was almost like a

dragster Hummer. The one that I really liked was they did an F40 and completely modernized the

F40 and that looked really, really cool. So that was probably my highlight. And you were into it?

Yeah. Yeah. So which, which Hummer model did they modify? It was like a civilian H3. Is that the

Yeah, that's the tiny one, right? Yeah, this thing was tiny. Oh, yeah. So that would be H3. Yeah,

interesting. Yeah. Yeah. What an interesting choice to do that too. So it was like slammed?

Really slammed. Like it almost looked like a dragster. Yeah. Yeah. It was super weird. Super

weird. I don't know why they were smoking when they created that. Any RWB Porsches or Liberty

Walkers or anything like that? I think I should not send you a picture. That was a golf, a golf

colored RWB. And the next to that was Jorge's friend, our friend Jorge from Tormenti Tomak.

His friend has got a Violet 355 convertible. Nice. Nice. That's Violet. And what did you think

of it in that color? I loved it. It was great. And did you see this is how little I know about

SEMA actually. So I have to go so I can learn about it. But I don't know if they do the big

trucks every year. They're like really over the top. Yes. No, they did. There was a whole line of

them. And some of them were like, yeah, you were just looking at their navels, right? Yeah, that's

what has always struck me in the pictures is like, not only are they just outrageous builds in general,

but the height, they're all raised up so high. Crazy. I'm sorry. What is above your shoulder

there? I see something. If you're watching this, maybe you see it too. It is. It's a fabulous new

sign that our friend of the show, Tori, made happen. So it's a sign of our logo. That's excellent.

That's excellent. Right now, I'm only seeing Dan's head, but I'm sure the rest of Dan and I right

now. There we go. You got the best side. Dan's not always with us. So now he's with us twice

right now tonight. In spirit. That's right. It looks very cool, though. Yeah, it turned out

really well. It's super fun. And yeah, did a little did a little remodeling of the studio.

And that was one of the first pieces to go up. So yeah, they will be available on our Amazon

store just in time for the holidays. That's right. They're at the top of everyone's gift lists,

obviously. We love it. Well, I think, I think bottom line, I have to go to SEMA next year

so that we've all been. I will take one for the team. I was gonna say, I'll take one for the team.

Dan's off the hook. Ryan doesn't have to go again yet. Well, now they're not gonna let me back.

That's right. No, you have to pitch it as like, listen, my first experience was not,

I was not as you'd hope. So I'd like to come back and let's try again.

And this was the first year they actually let like civilians in, right? Like that was the other

thing about this year. So I wonder if that, you know, changed things. They were sort of finding

their rhythm or whatever. I think that was part of it because I would always see the pictures

before, but it was like you said, it was sort of a very closed set for a long time.

You had to wonder how that'll change things. I know. Well, I will go check it out next year

and let you know. And we'll see. But Ryan, it sounds like you are gonna have a pretty interesting,

speaking of roads to events, you're gonna have an interesting trip on your way to Thanksgiving.

So can you share about the new, the chariot that you'll be enjoying? Well, because we're crazy,

we drive to most holidays, family things, right? And so we'll be driving from Denver

to Wisconsin this year. Please don't break into my house. We have a very advanced security system

and a dog who will be in a kennel. But anyway, we're driving from Denver to Milwaukee in a Genesis,

a GV 70. It's the 3.5. So it's the six cylinder. It's a 3.5 turbo Genesis has a very generously

allowed me to do that. And you know, you guys know this, but oftentimes when you get a press car,

you're sort of sort of unspoken, but you're limited to 500 miles. So to put like 2,500 miles on a car

is really very good of them. And so I will report back. I really like the G 90 sitting on the big,

you know, massage seats, you know, four position massage sheets and everything else car. I don't

know if this will be quite to that level, but it should be fun and looking forward to it. So I'm

sure I'll have lots of lots of things to say about it. And, you know, it's certainly nicer than

anything we would have ended up with from Hertz. So I'll tell you that. And with with flying and

all that, you know, we're kind of looking like the geniuses right now too, right? So instead of

yeah, the cheapskate. So no kidding. Looking forward to it. Yeah, I think it's going to be a

yeah, it should be good. But anyone listening, if you have any points of interest or like photo

spots between Denver and Milwaukee, you think I should stop and take a picture of for the inevitable

auto blog article. When I'm back, please do Fort Cody. Either of you heard of Fort Cody. It's

this. I have not. It's this old West themed, I don't know, roadside attraction somewhere in

Western Nebraska that Buffalo is it Buffalo Bill Buffalo Bill Cody? Is that the guy? Anyway,

it's this is this very old school, like, you know, tourist trap where it looks like a stockade,

and then you go in and it's, you know, it's all like, you know, crap from China, you know,

and candy and stuff, but we'll probably stop there. Nice. You know, I think the world's largest

covered wagon is somewhere along the way. So maybe that's another stop.

But anyone listening, any, any, any suggestions, please do let us know.

And we're going to start a go fund me. Go fund me page for Ryan's daughter so we can get a

Netflix subscription for her. So she doesn't have to go to all these attractions.

She today are so spoiled. Let me tell you, you know, I mean, we used to look forward of stops

like that, because I mean, how many times can you play, you know, car bingo with those little red,

you know, translucent slide, right? Yeah. We used to play license plate games, right?

That was like the height of entertainment, you know, when you were roadtripping.

Is there a beta game? If you saw a beta, you could punch your brother. Punch buggy or slug bug.

Yeah. Yeah. You're right. One headlight out and, you know, that kind of thing.

Oh, that sounds like a, that sounds like a more advanced version than we played.

It was more violent time.

Well, and I mean, when you talk about the license plate game, when you had that little,

you know, cardboard thing with the sliding red, that was kind of an advanced, you know,

fancy version of that too. I was about to just yelling out the state.

It's true. But like some of those cards are better than others. Do you remember this?

Oh, yeah.

Like some of you could not win on to save your life, right?

Highly specific stuff that, you know,

We have this. So I've got no idea what you guys are talking about.

Oh my God. Okay.

You know, I'm sure we can find one on eBay because it was, it was just little cardboard,

like, you know, eight by 11 or whatever piece of cardboard, kind of two layers,

and it had the different states and the whole intent was obviously to keep you busy on a road

trip. But you're looking at the cars that you're passing. And as you'd see a state that you hadn't

seen before, it had this thin red, like vellum almost or something and slide it to cover.

Yeah, with a little one each.

Yeah, everyone had one. And if your family was fancy, we just had one.

We also had one that was like roadside attraction. So like if you pass a church or

whatever, but then some of the stuff was really subjective, like, you know,

you're like,

you know, that just started arguments. And so this is where the family dynamics reveal,

like the success of the game depended on your family dynamics, like,

how tanker is everybody? Well, that's it. You're already in the back of a 48 horsepower

Volkswagen dasher, right? And then you throw, you know, automotive bingo on top of it. It's

amazing any of us survived. So right. This feels oddly specific. But I think this is a therapy

session for Ryan. It always is. That's the beauty of car people, right? Yes. Well, Dan,

it sounds like you, so you came back from SEMA and then you got to experience something new

at Universal Studios that it was, again, automotive themed as is most of our lives.

Watch, I didn't get to experience, unfortunately. So next year, there's a new ride coming to

Universal Studios. Yeah. So I now being a resident in California, you can get a discounted season

pass. That's right. So I thought I would get a discounted season pass and went yesterday. And

they've got a new ride, which is called Fast and Furious Hollywood Drift, I believe. And if you've

been to Universal Studios, it's an interesting setup. It's like a multi level piece of land.

So the first part of the park is at a certain level. And then everything else you have to take

either escalators or elevators down to the other part of the park. So it's on a multi level. And

then you've got all the sound stages and you've got the jaws experience and all that sort of stuff.

But anyway, if you picture this, imagine these escalators that are going down and it's multiple

escalators is not one, you kind of go down one set, you walk along, go down the next set.

Weaved in between these escalators is a roller coaster. And at the moment, they were just sending

test mules around it. But next year, it's going to be open. And the theme is Fast and Furious.

So in essence, you're doing a roller coaster. And it's not a fixed roller coaster. So what I mean

by that is it pivots on its center axis. So in essence, drifting. Oh, the actual cars that you

ride in. Yeah. Drift you through a roller coaster. And I believe there'll be different

themed cars. They've only shown that in like static images. These were all painted the same color.

But so I think a team outing middle of 26 to Universal Studio where we we go do some drifting.

Evaluate the drifting. Yeah, we need to meet up with our new buddy, Robert Nagle,

and he can ride with us. And then he can. There we go. The technique of the roller coasters.

Yeah. Drifts. That's true escalators. Yeah. Well, that's cool.

That reminds me of something I was going to ask you about SEMA, Dan, because I know Ryan

had shared that part of his experience was he had the it sounds like it's like the Vegas version

of Monaco where instead of being right on top of the racetrack, he was right on top of the drifting

in his hotel. So was that your experience to Dan? Because it wasn't and I think that's because

so, Ryan, I think you're a Marriott guy, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah. So there was a Marriott right

next to the tracks. And luckily I stayed in a place called the Westgate, which was kind of

around the back. And it wasn't. But I think if I'd have stayed in the Marriott, I would have had

that same experience. Yeah. Yeah. It drove us to drink, I'll be honest. I mean, any excuse. Come on.

Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's gonna happen anyway. Right. Yeah. It gave you good cover. Yeah.

I know. Well, I'm glad that you did not have that experience, Dan. And maybe that explains a little

bit also why your experience was more positive than Ryan's. And Ryan, now you know where to

stay when you go back. That's right. So that you can have, you can get yourself a break from the

drifting without having to go into the boring tunnel. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Well, speaking of the

boring tunnel, Tesla has started to do car rentals for $60 a day. So are they renting them? Do you

guys know they're renting them directly to consumers? Are they giving them to car rental

companies? Do we know? Well, that didn't work. Speaking of Hertz. Right. I saw an article in

New York Times. And apparently there's a wider issue going on right now where electric cars

aren't selling. Obviously, September was tariffs. So I don't know whether this is a longer term

strategy, but Tesla have obviously got all this allocation of cars on their four courts.

So they've actually made them available so you can rent them for $60 a day.

So as an alternative to Hertz or, you know, those other folks. And it's interesting because I wonder

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And so I got a lift. And I think I must have been the first passenger ever in this lift car. It was

a brand new Tesla Model 3 with white seats. And I'm thinking, that's how I knew it was new.

And it was a pretty good experience. It was, I hadn't been, the last couple rental, you know,

Teslas I've had were beaten. They had like 60,000 miles because I don't think they're replacing them.

But this was a brand new Model 3. It was really, really nice. A great experience until the guy

went the wrong way down a one-way street and everyone started honking at us. And I sent out to

attention and, but a nice enough vehicle. But to your point, Dan, I think, you know, everyone's

hurting. And, you know, I think we all saw this article about Polestar. Polestar just did a stock

split to boost the value of the stock. And now the stock is at 22 cents. 22 cents burn. Like,

yeah. A reverse stock split. That's what it was. Not the way you want to go. That's what it was.

Never a good time. Go buy your Polestar stock. Well, you can. I don't know, you know, when our

lease is up in July or whatever, but we're going to do where we're going to go right from here.

Because we really like the thing. And, you know, I'll, you know, go to my grave saying that I

think for most people in most places and electric is the, is the superior daily driver drivetrain.

I just don't see us going back to a, you know, an IC car for daily duties. Yeah. So I don't know

where we'll go from here. Well, and this is your family's first EV, correct? It is. It is. Yeah.

Can I just say that the, that car show are not financial experts and no one should be taken

on stops to buy or sell with our insight. Please. You could, you could buy thousands of shares and

feel. But what if it goes to 11 cents? Yeah, but yeah, you know, it's. Well, it's, I mean, it's,

I don't, I don't know off the top of my head if there has been a company that has been

saved by a reverse stock split. But it is, you know, they don't, they don't do that

without being under duress a bit. No, no, writings on the wall. And it's too bad because

it's a great product. I really do believe it's a great product. You know, the, the Polestar 2 that

we had was built in China. And so obviously we know, you know, how that's all playing out and why

they stopped selling them. But of course there's the Model 3 and I don't want to call it the Model

3, but Polestar 3 rather than the 4 and I think a 5. So I mean, they have great products in the

pipeline. And I think, you know, Polestar is a fantastic alternative. If you would, you know,

if you, you'd be driving a Volvo, but you want to drive electric, right? I mean, you're not a Tesla

person, right? I think a Polestar is a great car. So, you know, it'll be really kind of sad if they

go away in the US. I think they'll be continued to be sold elsewhere in the country. But I don't

know. Didn't you write an article about, so they're one of the only companies that are doing a

Roadster? So maybe that gets shelved. Yeah. Well, Tesla was also doing a Roadster.

But you write an article about it. No, I know. And it's a beautiful thing, right? It's a,

it's a, I think a coupe and a Roadster. And it's a fantastic looking car. It's one of those few cars

that, you know, if everything goes as planned, it's going to look just like the production car is

going to look a lot like the concept car. So think like, you know, when the Audi TT came out and

like, oh, damn, that actually looks quite a lot like the, you know, the concept car or the original

box or whatever. And this is a car that really does look exceptional. And I think we'll, we'll

stay true to the concept. But we'll see, you know, I mean, it's, it's also a $200,000 car. So I don't

think, I don't think any lease deal is going to be good enough to put that in my garage. But

well, it's not really family. It's not really a family car. So you're off the hook for a few years

in terms of like, Brian, why haven't you put your money where your mouth is?

And exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah, I don't know. And maybe if the company goes, you know,

goes on a business, at least here in the States, you know, maybe we'll be able to keep the car very,

very inexpensively too. And maybe we'll have this Polestar for a long time. We'll be able to service

the damn thing. I'll be up poking at it with a Phillips head screwdriver up on my left.

I'm trying to get electrocuted.

Hopefully the next Fesker Ocean. Where do we take it though?

Oh man.

Well, hopefully that.

Did you see who's the guy that does that rich rebuilds on YouTube? He just got a free Fesker

Ocean and was able to fix it with a new key for 20 bucks. At least that's the clickbaity title

or whatever. Would you take a free Fesker Ocean, either of you?

Yes.

Free. Okay.

Yes. If it's free.

Yeah.

Because I would and sorry, Nancy, go on.

No, I mean, I feel like that's one of those things where if it's free, obviously you pay

insurance and that kind of thing. And like for as long as it runs and if, you know, ideally,

obviously if something happens, you're able to figure out some kind of a solution for a fair

amount of time. But I think that's one of those things that you just do for the sake of the plot.

You're like, wait, you're going to give me a Fesker Ocean.

That's all get one.

Right. Like for the podcast for my life, you're just like, that's one of those stories of like,

yeah, somebody handed me this car. So here we are. Like, why would you say no, really?

Because if it breaks and it's unrecoverable,

like, okay, you didn't pay for it. It's not like you're losing a bunch of money

and you got to enjoy it for as long as you got to enjoy it.

And you know, the whole Fesker story is such an up and down story and you get to be a tiny part of

it and enjoy one of their products for as long as it works. So, but yeah, so Dan, what would you say?

I was saying, I think you'd strip it for spares and put them all on eBay.

Well, people are going to need them.

Yeah.

Or you could turn the seats into like a desk or a sofa or something.

Oh, that's true.

Upcycling.

Yeah. So, okay, so that's what I would do. I would take it, drive it for as long as it worked,

then part it out, and possibly create the world's first Fesker Ocean love seat.

That's what I wouldn't feel bad about. I always like cry a little bit on the inside.

Whenever I see a really good car that's turned into one of those, you know,

yeah, or like something that's rare, there aren't that many examples and you're like,

oh, you cut it in half to make, yeah.

Crimey notion.

Exactly.

Yeah. Well, so Dan, you mentioned that you had seen an interesting top gear episode since we

last all were together. And I wondered if you could share a little bit about that because I'm

very curious what the result was. Who was the winner? So take it away.

Yeah, this was kind of, I guess on the back of, it sounds like some of our friends in

England may be doing an SUV who have never done an SUV before.

That's right.

I'm talking about the Formula One World Champions.

And apparently next year is there's an SUV coming that's going to be a hybrid.

But that led me down a bit of a rabbit hole and Tom Ford, who is a famous top gear presenter,

he did a video.

Not to be confused with the designer Tom Ford.

That's right, the guy who makes the handbags.

It's not the handbags Tom Ford, it's the other Tom Ford, whose nickname is Wookie,

which is super weird because when you get emails from him that just says Wooks,

and you're like, how do I respond to that? Dear Mr. Wooks.

But yeah, he took a Ferrari Pro Sangway and he took an Aston Martin DBXS.

So the DBXS is the newest Aston Martin, which basically is quicker than the 707.

So it's up from the 707 in terms of power and stuff.

And he went to the UK's narrowest and steepest road and pitted them against each other.

And I would encourage everyone to watch the video, so I won't give too much away.

But the interesting things for me were the Ferrari has a suspension from Multimatic.

Now if you guys are familiar with Multimatic, what else have they worked on?

They worked on the Mustang GTD.

Yes. So it's interesting that the Italians are now working with the Canadians

to get the best possible suspension. But he was raving about that.

He was less raving about the options list on the Ferrari,

because I think there was something like $135,000 of options.

Yeah, and that's just obscene.

I mean, I get it was a press car.

But and then he was raving about the usability of the Aston.

You know, the fact he's got a decent sized trunk.

Watch the video, because the Ferrari does a really cool thing with its back seats.

So if you want to put the back seats down, you can, but it looks really cool.

And watch the video for the net result.

But yeah, I think McLaren, if they go into that market, oh, I've said it, whoops.

McLaren, if they go into that market, then they've got some very stiff competition

to go up against.

Well, and that, yeah, like you said, they've announced their models for the next few years,

I think, and one of them is going to be a four door sedan, is it?

So which McLaren?

I thought it was an SUV.

Oh, is it? Okay. Four door SUV.

So either way, I think the question stands either way, would either of you be interested in

a four door McLaren sedan or a four door McLaren SUV?

Ryan, what do you think?

No, not really.

Not really.

In a word.

I do love McLaren.

I love their cars, you know.

Don't know if I'd buy one of the sports cars either, but.

We need to create a list, don't we, of things that is better to have a friend owned than we own.

There we go.

Boats, we've got SUVs, we've got McLaren.

Yeah.

Right.

What's up, Brendan?

Yeah.

Right.

An off-road vehicle about McLaren.

Yeah.

We'll just keep it.

It's a living document.

You'll just keep adding to the list.

But Dan, what do you think?

Would you be interested in a McLaren SUV?

I would love, I've never driven a McLaren.

I'd love to drive a McLaren.

You know, everyone raves about the driving.

I hope that the build quality's got better because I think early on, like it used to be,

I don't think it's the case anymore.

It used to be that there was a stat that said that McLaren customers,

less than 5% bought a second McLaren.

Really?

That's, that's.

I mean, I do.

I feel like.

Yeah, that's wild.

Wow.

But I think that's got better.

Yeah.

Like 7%.

No, I don't know the numbers, but I think the quality's got better.

6, 7?

Yeah.

It's a 50% gain.

My daughter's cringing from across the house.

Let's say, Ryan, you're so hip, we can hang with the young people.

Pretty sad, isn't it?

Oh, man.

Yeah.

Would you guys, you just know it's a no?

I mean, I wouldn't, not with my own money.

I'd take one.

Right, again.

I'd end at Fisker Ocean.

Yeah, I was going to say, this is, that's our other living list is like,

what would you take if somebody's handing you a free one?

Sure, McLaren SUV, Fisker Ocean.

Not drawing any analogs, just for the record.

No.

Yeah.

Well, and it sounds like it's, since it's a list of two,

it's which SUVs would you accept if someone is handing them to you?

Those are the two.

But speaking of twos, I have been having a funny experience since car week,

and I don't know if this has happened to you guys, but I find myself,

I'm moving through the world with sort of like two car solution colored glasses on,

unexpectedly.

And it started at the Zinger party at car week,

when I happened to go out to the car park and Matt Farrah's beautiful Myers banks was out there,

the beautiful blue, right next to a GT 40 that was almost a matching blue.

And I went, oh my gosh, that would be a really funny two car solution.

Like, what if that was your garage?

What would that look like?

What would that feel like?

And ever since then, I've started to see pairs of cars together.

And I'm like, well, that's an interesting two car solution,

because I feel like that's that's such a catch all in the car community is

everybody goes like, okay, but what's your two car solution?

So I wanted to start with Dan, what is your like in a perfect world?

What is your ideal two car solution?

And then are there any funny ones that you've seen when you're out and about lately?

Yeah, I think two car solution is something for the weekend and something for the week.

Yeah.

So maybe a singer for the weekend.

Oh, there we go.

Do I think I want to say McLaren F1?

So maybe a singer for the week and a McLaren F1 for the weekend.

Right.

Well, that's along the lines of like a Myers-Manx and a GT 40.

It's like, yeah, hey, it doesn't have to be practical.

It has to be fun and you have to love it.

So I love that idea.

And so have you seen any funny pairings out and about?

What was I'm just trying to think what was on the stands.

So I went to one of the detail company stands.

Yeah.

And they had an S2000 from Fast and Furious.

And then they had a Busy Moto 935 Electric.

That was on the Sonic stand.

So that would be a very cool two car solution.

Yeah, that would be really unique.

I know.

I think it's interesting because you go, okay, could you do daily life

if you had these two things?

What would that look like?

And I mean, I'm game to find out, you know?

So, Ryan, what's your ideal two car solution?

And have you seen any funny pairings lately?

Yeah, you know, let's do a two-door Cabrio G-Wagon, like Doug DeMiro.

Oh, yeah.

And GT3 Touring.

That would be really all I would need.

Those two cars.

Special if I was living in some wonderful place like Southern California.

I think that'd be kind of ideal.

Funny two-parry cars.

There is someone in the neighborhood that has like an old,

like a 47 Chevy pickup truck and also has a 930 Turbo.

And those are the only two cars I've ever seen at that house.

And yeah, yeah, one of them gets street parked.

The other gets parked under a portico.

I'm not quite sure what's in the garage,

but those are the only two cars I've seen.

And he seems to be, or she seems to be doing okay with those two.

I love that.

The 930 has a handicap lacquer on it too.

Wow.

So we have so many questions.

I know.

You need to become friends with that guy or lady.

Yeah, I didn't want to say it.

Right.

You're like, occasionally.

That's right.

As a matter of fact, that is me walking back and forth in front of your house.

Yeah.

Well, those are both really good combos.

Yeah, I think so do you.

So the one I saw, another one today, and this is what reminded me of kind of,

I keep seeing these pairings.

The one I saw this morning was an ID buzz and then a 718 Boxer S.

And I was like, well, those are like, again, could be a week.

And really either of those could be the weekend car or the daily.

So you could live a lot of life with those two.

And then I actually saw a Nissan Murano convertible

in this beautiful sort of like sea green metallic unicorn color where I was just like,

this is amazing.

And there was a replica vintage MG right next to it.

And I'm like, all right, what would life look like if that was your garage?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

So there's some, you know, and then I saw a Saturn View and Oldsmobile Cutlass Sierra

parked together in a driveway the other day.

And I was like, boy, that's a blast from the past.

That was a good two car solution for someone at one time.

Yeah.

Right.

And it's, again, you look like your neighbor with the questions.

I'm like, that was a two car solution of a certain time period.

And it is currently for these people.

So, you know, also interesting.

There's a whole new bingo game you can create.

So you pull together all those combos.

And then the kids are in the car for hours trying to find the combos.

Yes, yes.

Porsche car bingo, right?

There's a 924 S, right?

I mean, you know, I never thought I'd see one of those, right?

Yeah.

Then in the center square, you've got a GT3, because those are everywhere now, right?

Yeah, yeah.

But that's how you win.

They're like, yeah, yeah.

So I know.

Well, and I think, but I think my favorite actually is one that I didn't see,

but someone sent to me.

There was a high performance driving event out at Willow Springs last weekend.

And I got a picture from the hotel parking lot in the morning.

And it was these two.

And I think they're like 90s era, single cab, lowered, short bed, Chevy pickups,

both in insanely bright pink, different pinks parked right next to each other.

I mean, you commit to the bit, right?

Like the Barbie lifestyle.

So anyway, so it's, it kind of makes your drives interesting as you're, you know,

going through your day, you go like, all right, what if that was my garage?

And it's sort of, you know, we're all out and about.

And it sort of adds a little fun to your drives, even if it's just, you know,

running errands.

But I thought it was really fun the other day when we did the hopped in the DeLorean

for a little time capsule action.

We stole the DeLorean, didn't we?

We did, but we kept our ability to time travel apparently.

So this week, I thought we could chat about a brand that is near and dear to my heart,

Ford, of course.

So same premise, right?

For those of us just tuning in now.

So the premise is if you could go back to any time period in the Ford manufacturing,

you know, all of the products, where would you go?

Like, what do you feel like is peak Ford?

And Ryan, I would love to hear your answer first.

Well, Lindsay, asking me about my favorite Ford year is a little like asking me about

ham radios or my favorite Harry Potter book, because I have no real experience with any

of these things.

There we go.

I didn't grow up with Fords.

I've never owned a Ford.

I don't know that I ever will own a Ford.

That said, that said, I love me a Ford GT of any vintage.

I think 2005 would be a really good year to go back in time and pick one of those up

when they were being sold at a discount.

And I do have a thing for the 5.0 LX Fox body Mustangs.

Give me a final year, you know, Fox body LX trim, cloth seats, manual.

That would be pretty fantastic.

65 GT 350 would be fantastic, right?

I mean, this is just so good.

I think those are that's a car that transcends, right?

You know, find me a Porsche person who doesn't like one of those are just so good.

But for someone who's not a Ford guy, and I should say,

I have absolutely nothing against Fords.

I just don't have any experience with them.

I guess take me at 88 miles an hour to 1992.

Because when I think of Ford, it's the Ford lineup from that era that just says Ford to me.

So some highlights of 1992 are the aforementioned Fox bodies.

I think 93 was the last year of those, right?

They were starting to transition into that next gen.

You could also get the new Crown Vic, a car that was made for 20 goddamn years,

and one that you can still occasionally see in police fleets, especially in California.

13 years after the last one rolled off the assembly line.

You could get the Aero Star that year, aka the space shuttle on wheels.

You can get the big boy Bronco too.

I think that was the fifth generation that had just come out that year, right?

92.

The F-Series was at the top of its game,

and it was still something the Marlboro man would drive, right?

I mean, it just had that sort of vibe.

The OG Probe, right?

I was going to say the Probe was in there.

Yeah, I mean, I guess they were both Muslim.

That was right there.

I think that came on 88 or 89, so that was still lurking around,

tempting the Appalachian enthusiasts on a budget, I guess.

What else was there?

Well, there was a Taurus.

They still had the Taurus.

The Taurus, the SHO, right?

Yeah.

And that was the face-lifted one, like Conan O'Brien drove.

You know, used to drive.

The Tempo was a car that was available in 92.

The Tempo was also there.

The Thunderbird, the personal luxury car.

And you know what?

All of these models shared one thing in common.

It was that same stupid little Ford radio with a little chiclet buttons.

Every single one of those cars had the same radio.

So I think that's why in 1992 is peak Ford for me.

There we go.

That's an amazing answer.

Yeah.

Dan, you're up next.

Who are you talking about?

So actually, it's two years later.

OK.

So it's 1994.

This is peak Clarkson.

Clarkson is still quite young looking,

and he's got this massive bouffant of big hair.

And Ford have given him for a year a Ford Escort Cosworth.

Oh, yeah.

See, you had a different.

We had different Fords in the UK,

which is why I think I've got more of a love

than maybe you have Ryan in the mark.

So we had, in the 80s, you had Group B,

which was all about whatever the rules were,

you would interpret them to whatever and the RS200 came.

But then when the Escort Cosworth came,

it wasn't even an Escort.

It was a Sierra because they had to take the body length

and make it an all-wheel drive car for rallying at Gripe.

So this was a beautiful little car

with a big spoiler on the back.

You know, it had all-wheel drive.

It had a legendary Cosworth badge on the back.

And you'd have it in a mallard green or something like that.

So that would be, for me, that would be peak.

And I think they started in 92,

but 94 was when they kind of got to perfection.

Interesting.

Yeah, that's a good.

I mean, I was thinking it's interesting

that you both went very similar time periods,

but such different answers

and such different experiences with the brand

because of growing up in different countries.

Well, Lindsay, you grew up with Ford.

So this is going to, this is the answer I'm really curious about.

Because you know Ford.

Ford tattoo.

Act.

That's right.

I really went back and forth because of,

like I've had personal experience

with so many different models of the brand.

But I kind of went back to my perspective on the Porsche answer

with picking kind of an epic moment in the brand's history.

And so I would want to go back to like the Shelby era of Ford.

So mid 60s, you know, 64, 65, 66,

when that program was coming together

with the Mustangs and the Cobras.

And I realized, you know, you could,

the purists would argue that might not be,

you could argue it's not Ford.

But listen, it was integral to the program.

They were working together closely at that point.

And I feel like there were so many historical moments.

Like, you know, we were just talking to Robert Nagel

about the Le Mans races,

where they race the Ford, the GT 40s.

And like, I feel like that era of the company,

you still like, there's so many stories that came out of that.

So many prominent figures in automotive,

like Pete Brock and Ken Miles and Carol Shelby.

And all of that was like, you know,

there's just so many stories and big moments

and like really shaped the history of the company.

Even to the point like when I was at the GTD reveal

a couple of years ago, when Jim Farley was introducing the car,

he talked about even in 2023,

he said, we're turning away from Shelby,

but it's not like we still love Shelby.

And that's been such a part of the company.

This is a new direction from us that we're really excited about.

And yeah, that's not about Shelby,

but also he's still in the discussion

or those cars are still in the discussion even now.

So I think it would be really, really interesting

to get an in-person window into what that time period was like.

And you know, all of those discussions

and be there when those cars were being developed.

So I was surprised to know when that's my answer.

No, that's a great answer.

I think I've seen a picture of like a transporter,

like a race transporter from that era,

just filled with all those great cars, right?

And just I want to go back and just drive that whole thing.

So I'm pretty sure one of our family friends drove that transporter.

Of course. That's awesome.

Yeah, we have a good family friend who his job,

he was one of the original Shelby employees.

And ultimately he was hired to do.

And I don't know.

I think it was a, I may be misspeaking,

but I think it was a type of a publicity tour.

And he drove the big rigs

and they transported the cars around the U.S.

And there were I think maybe three big rigs that did that,

but he was one of them.

And yeah, that's, I think all, you know,

all those guys have such amazing stories.

So to get to, to get to be in that moment for a little bit

would be pretty epic.

Yeah.

Those died in the wool Ford person.

We blew all that.

I think you couldn't have chosen another year, really, right?

Right. I know.

I was like, okay, do I go back to 85?

Because that's when the Bronco that I learned to drive was made.

It was much older when I learned to drive in it,

obviously for those trying to do the math.

But anyway, that's neither here nor there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A little disappointed in either one of you said 1908

when the Model T was brought to the market.

We didn't want to steal your thunder

because we thought considering you shared the same birthday.

Right. We were hoping you'd share some personal stories from the time.

But yeah.

You ended up with a Model 8 kids.

You know, by the way, happy birthday, Dan.

I think it was just your birthday.

I think you were, I think you might be two,

what, rotations around the sun?

Oh, behind you.

I'm, yes.

Getting closer towards Ryan's age and nowhere near Lindsay.

By the way, that's, that's the best part about aging, right?

You never catch up.

You're like, I'm just going to pause here and wait for you guys.

That's right.

I think you get backwards after 30, don't you?

That's right. That's right.

Yeah. That's right.

I mean, that's what I'm doing.

I thought it's worth it.

I don't see any white and you were your beard stubble there.

So I think you're.

There we go.

Yeah.

It's a play.

Yeah.

You might be able to die, isn't it?

Yeah.

Exactly.

That British constitution.

Yeah.

But we hope you had an amazing birthday.

And thank you very much.

That was universal studios.

That's, I mean, that's a good way to celebrate.

Absolutely.

But yeah, I mean, I think, I think that's, that's it for this week,

you guys, unless we have any other pressing topics that have.

I'm excited about next week.

Yeah.

I know we have the auto show coming up.

And we get to see each other in person.

Yeah.

We'll be in LA.

Yeah.

If you're at the show, come say hello.

That's right.

We'll be there on the Thursday, which is the press day.

We'll be joined by our good friend, Jorge Aquino.

Yes.

We'll also be joined by Michael Lasasso, who is the business

behind this podcast and doesn't always get the front of house.

You know, he'll be with us as well.

So it should be a, it should be a great, a great few days,

shouldn't it?

Yeah.

It would be a lot of fun.

And I've been promised a delicious Mexican meal.

I don't even recommend it because I haven't.

I was going to say, are you cooking Dan?

El Taco Bello or something.

Which you've never actually eaten out of my memory as serves me.

Never have a Taco Bell.

And if I ever do have a Taco Bell, it's the one just outside San Francisco

because there's one on the beach, just to the west of San Francisco.

Yeah.

I think they serve alcohol.

They still have one of the cantinas is still open.

I think so.

And that's the only Taco Bell I'll ever have.

Well, I mean, authentic, it's not, but you know,

it is part of the fabric of Southern California.

Crown beef came right from the ocean.

Yeah.

The triangle of cuisine.

You can either have it authentic, cheap, or convenient,

but you can't have all three.

No.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Well, for all of us here at that car show,

thank you so much for joining us this week.

And thank you guys.

That was great to be all together as a crew.

And yeah, so thank you to all of our listeners.

Drop us a line and let Ryan know if there are any spots

that he needs to stop on his road trip

to take pictures with the Genesis.

Let us know what you are.

The snarkier the better.

Right.

The weirder, the more rise daughter will roll her eyes.

Those are the suggestions we're looking for.

If you have seen any unusual or unique or funny two car pairings,

let us know that and wish Dan a happy birthday.

Thank you so much for joining us this week.

And until next week, we are that car show.

And remember, always be driving.

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