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Lyn Woodward Rides Again. Part 2

Lyn Woodward Rides Again. Part 2

That Car Show Jul 10, 2026 47 min
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About this episode

Lynn Woodward returns for part 2, diving into Subaru’s latest EV and gas lineup with plenty of real-world impressions. A standout debate: a Subaru Trail Seeker can beat a Porsche Macan base model 0–60, raising eyebrows about value and performance. They discuss Subaru’s refined CVT fears easing over time, plus the WRX’s manual popularity. The conversation also covers Subaru’s shifting “granola” image via nicer interiors, muted colors, and cabin upgrades, while highlighting practical wins from the CrossTrek and Outback Wilderness (including road trips and fitting three across). They end by weighing a new, customizable car concept—great entry pricing, but concerns about option creep and who it’s really for.

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Subaru Trail Seeker

"The other thing that I really enjoyed was the Subaru Trail Seeker. Yes. I've got that on my list here to talk about"

The Subaru Trail Seeker is a Subaru meant for people who want to drive beyond smooth pavement. Here, the interesting part is that they’re talking about how fast it is from a stop—so it’s not just an “outdoors” vehicle, it’s also surprisingly quick.

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zero to 60 time

"We just say, never in my life did I think I would be comparing or speaking about a zero to 60 time of a Subaru being faster than a zero to 60 time of a Porsche."

“Zero to 60 time” means how many seconds it takes a car to go from standing still to 60 mph. Lower time generally means the car feels quicker when you press the gas from a stop.

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Porsche Macan

"The Porsche Macan... And yet, here we are. The Porsche Macan base model is slower off the line than a Subaru Trail Seeker."

The Porsche Macan is Porsche’s smaller SUV, and it’s usually considered more “sporty” than typical family SUVs. Here, they’re saying even the Macan’s base version isn’t as quick off the line as the Subaru Trail Seeker.

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off-roaded

"I mean, I off-roaded it. They had one at Mudfest. It did fantastically."

“Off-roaded” means driving on rough ground like dirt trails instead of paved roads. The host is saying it did well when they took it off the pavement.

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Mudfest

"They had one at Mudfest. It did fantastically. You know, as you expect, but like you've all off-roaded other Subaru's."

Mudfest sounds like an event where cars are tested in muddy, off-road conditions. The host is saying the vehicle did well there.

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Subaru Outback

"...oaded other Subaru's. In Europe, they call it the Outback EV. Wow, come on."

The Subaru Outback is a car that’s built to handle rougher roads better than a typical sedan. It usually comes with all-wheel drive, which helps in bad weather. The podcast mentions it in connection with an electric version idea.

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Outback EV

"In Europe, they call it the Outback EV. Wow, come on. That's what it is."

“Outback EV” just means the Outback model, but powered by electricity. It’s a way to tell it apart from the regular gas Outback.

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wagon

"It's basically the wagon, but it's an easy wagon. If you don't mind clashing plastic finishes or whatever, that is a wonderful car."

A wagon is a car shape with extra space behind the seats for cargo. Here, the host is saying the EV keeps that practical wagon look.

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squircle

"I did struggle a little bit with that squircle or whatever. I just felt a little silly with that."

A “squircle” is a shape that’s part square and part circle. The host is saying they didn’t love a squircle-shaped design detail on the car.

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electrified vehicles

"I will say that I think the partnership between Toyota [113.7s] and Subaru when it comes to the electrified vehicles [117.8s] has probably been one of the most successful"

“Electrified vehicles” just means cars that use electricity to help move the car. That can be fully electric cars, or hybrids where an electric motor works with a gas engine.

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two-wheel drive

"But you can also get it as a two-wheel drive vehicle. [156.9s] You can't do that with the Highlander."

Two-wheel drive means the car powers only one set of wheels (usually the front). It can be cheaper and sometimes more efficient, but it may not grip as well as all-wheel drive on slippery roads.

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CVT

"Yep, in Lynn with the EVs, you don't have to worry about the one thing that's always prevented me from buying a Subaru and that's the CVT. I just, I'm not buying a CVT."

CVT means a transmission that can change “gears” smoothly without distinct steps. Some drivers dislike how it feels because it can hold the engine at a certain sound level instead of shifting like a normal automatic.

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Nissan Not Nissan

"...ot, I can't do it. I know it's not 2,000 and it's not Nissan or whatever, but you know, where those would fail..."

The Nissan Note is a small hatchback designed for everyday driving. It’s the kind of car people choose for practicality and easy maneuvering. The podcast mentions it in a reliability-style context, comparing it to other cars that may have issues.

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Subaru Outback Wilderness

"I have, so right now I'm driving the Outback Wilderness as a long-term vehicle. And I was in the same camp as you."

The Outback Wilderness is a tougher, more adventure-focused version of the Subaru Outback. Here it’s brought up because the speaker is talking about whether they’d buy a Subaru with a CVT.

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Subaru WRX

"And I'm really curious to drive it on the WRX. That's where I really would like to have some time with it. But they don't, they're not interested in giving anybody a WRX with a CVT because they have an 80% take rate on the manual transmission."

The WRX is Subaru’s sporty, enthusiast model. In this conversation, it’s important because the speaker wants to drive one and is talking about whether it comes with a CVT or mostly a manual.

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manual transmission

"But they don't, they're not interested in giving anybody a WRX with a CVT because they have an 80% take rate on the manual transmission. Why would they even care?"

A manual transmission is the one where you use a clutch pedal and a shifter to choose gears. The hosts mention it because Subaru sells the WRX manual much more than the CVT.

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take rate

"But they don't, they're not interested in giving anybody a WRX with a CVT because they have an 80% take rate on the manual transmission. Why would they even care?"

Take rate just means “how many people choose that option.” In this case, it means most WRX buyers are choosing the manual, so Subaru doesn’t feel pressure to offer the CVT as much.

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Forester wilderness

"Yeah, we had the Forester wilderness. Forester, that's right."

The Subaru Forester Wilderness is a higher-trim version of the Forester SUV. It’s meant to be a bit more outdoorsy than the base models, and here it’s used as an example of a car people enjoy even if it uses a CVT.

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muted green

"It's like a beige color. It's a muted green color. These are very sort of sophisticated colors now"

A “muted green” is a green paint color that’s toned down and not super bright. The host is saying the car’s newer colors are more subtle and upscale-looking.

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public perception

"because of the public perception of them as being like, well, but that's the outdoorsman or outdoors woman's car."

This just means what most people think about a car type. The host is saying people assume it’s only for outdoorsy buyers, but it can work for more everyday situations. It’s about the stereotype, not the car’s engineering.

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Crosstrek Cross Track

"And like I highly recommend. Cross track, like the latest iteration of the cross track, th..."

The Crosstrek is a small crossover SUV-style car. It’s meant to be practical for daily driving and can handle rougher roads better than a typical sedan. The podcast recommends the newest version.

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sound damping materials

"even to the extent of adding some great sound damping materials that really have refined the cabin quite a bit."

Sound damping materials are insulation and damping layers used inside a vehicle to reduce noise and vibration. They help lower cabin noise from the engine, tires, and wind, making the interior feel more refined. In this segment, they’re credited with improving the cabin experience in the “Cross track.”

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heated for the two outboard seats

"They were very comfortable. I mean, and that's, and that was three across. And I just thought, oh gosh, this is going to be terrible. I'm like, you guys, like, uh, they were, they said, oh no, these seats, the seats are very comfortable. They're heated for the two outboard seats."

“Outboard” just means the seats on the sides of the row. If only the two outboard seats are heated, that means the left and right passengers get seat warmth, while the middle passenger may not.

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entry level

"So that fabulous price point that you have, which is entry level, you're going to blow that up pretty quickly."

“Entry level” just means the cheapest version of the car you can buy. Once you add options, the price usually goes up fast.

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Ford Maverick

"Don't forget that the Maverick, I think starts at like 29. It's not that much more expensive. And you don't need to be all bare bones on the Maverick. So not any of the, it's a hybrid, and that's not the base model, I get it."

They’re talking about the Ford Maverick, a smaller pickup that’s usually priced lower than many trucks. They also point out it’s a hybrid, and that different trims cost different amounts.

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hybrid

"So not any of the, it's a hybrid, and that's not the base model, I get it."

A hybrid uses two power sources—an engine and an electric motor. That can help with fuel economy, and it often means the car costs more than the simplest version.

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charging access

"Because here's the deal. I think somebody who is looking for a low priced car is probably somebody who lives in an apartment building. Like me, I cannot, I don't have access to charging."

Charging access refers to whether a driver can reliably charge an EV at home or nearby. Limited access—like living in an apartment without a convenient charger—can make EV ownership harder and can affect which buyers consider EVs at all.

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high density of EVs

"I live in what I would consider a high density of early adopters, high density of EVs, the infrastructure around here sucks."

This means lots of EVs are parked and driven in the same area. The point is that even where many people have EVs, there still might not be enough charging spots.

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charging infrastructure

"I live in what I would consider a high density of early adopters, high density of EVs, the infrastructure around here sucks."

Charging infrastructure is the system of public chargers and how well they work. If there aren’t enough working chargers, it makes EVs harder to live with.

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fleet vehicle

"because I thought this was going to be the perfect fleet vehicle, right? You've got a warehouse, you plug them in each night,"

A fleet vehicle is a car or van used by a business for repeated, daily work—often with multiple drivers and predictable routes. Fleet use matters because charging access, downtime, and real-world range affect whether the vehicle is practical.

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all-wheel drive

"For me, it's a non-starter until they come out with all-wheel drive, right? They can drive a rear-wheel drive pickup truck."

All-wheel drive means the car can send power to all four wheels. That usually helps it grip better on snow or ice, so it’s easier to drive in winter.

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rear-wheel drive

"They can drive a rear-wheel drive pickup truck. You know, that's 4,000 pounds or whatever it is in the winter, I just can't."

Rear-wheel drive means only the back wheels get the power. On snow or ice, those wheels can spin more easily, making the car harder to drive smoothly.

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range

"Because even the range that you're looking at, it's not an exorbitant amount of range."

Range is how far an electric vehicle can go before it needs to be charged again. If the range isn’t enough for your daily driving, you’ll have to charge more often.

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dual-motor version

"There was one point going to be a dual-motor version, [939.7s] that's gone now."

A dual-motor setup means the car has two electric motors. That can help it launch harder and grip better because it can send power to the wheels more intelligently.

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LA Auto Show

"I think we saw them, we saw it at the LA Auto Show. [982.5s] Yeah, that's right."

The LA Auto Show is a big car show in Los Angeles where companies reveal new cars. The hosts say they saw the idea there before hearing it again in the news.

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New York Auto Show

"[983.7s] That's right, that's right. [984.7s] New York Auto Show. [985.5s] And I do tours at the show"

The New York Auto Show is a big event where car makers show new vehicles. The hosts are trying to remember which show the Topolino news came from.

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Dodge Charger

"it's like nobody's business. And I had a charger, right? That I could, I would buy that thing in a..."

The Dodge Charger is a larger sedan that’s designed to feel powerful. People often talk about it as a muscle-car style vehicle. If someone says they’d buy one, it’s usually because they like the performance and look.

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Rivian R2

"Well, and those are just- You get cars like that. You get cars like the Rivian, like the R2, which I haven't seen it,"

The Rivian R2 is an electric SUV/pickup-style vehicle that Rivian is working on. People get excited about it because it’s meant to bring Rivian’s EV approach to a wider audience.

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electric vehicles

"And then you still have, you know, hypercars and you have electric vehicles"

Electric vehicles are cars that run on electricity stored in a battery. Instead of a gas engine, they use electric motors to move the car.

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Polestar

"the news came out about Polestar being no longer. [1153.3s] Yeah, I'm a fan, you know?"

Polestar is a car brand that makes electric vehicles. The speaker says it feels similar to Saab in spirit—quirky and interesting for car fans—even though it’s an EV brand.

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Saab

"it always appealed to me because it was kind of like, [1158.4s] kind of took the spot of like what Saab used to be, right?"

Saab was a Swedish car brand with a reputation for being different from most other automakers. The speaker is saying Polestar reminds them of that Saab vibe and fanbase.

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enthusiast audience

"I liked those cars because they really catered [1187.2s] to an enthusiast audience. [1190.0s] But the problem is, at least they catered"

An enthusiast audience means people who really care about the driving experience, not just getting from A to B. The speaker is saying Polestar aimed at those drivers, but early EV buyers weren’t mostly enthusiasts.

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Volvo

"I kind of almost wish they had not separated from Volvo, ... Like, they were the EV arm of Volvo, right? ... And then Volvo decided to kind of go all in on EVs too."

Volvo is a car company from Sweden. Here they’re talking about Volvo moving more aggressively into electric cars instead of using a separate EV brand.

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EV arm

"Like, they were the EV arm of Volvo, right? Okay, perfect."

An “EV arm” is basically a company’s electric-car department or brand. Here, it means Polestar was Volvo’s dedicated electric-car effort.

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all in on EVs

"And then Volvo decided to kind of go all in on EVs too."

“All in on EVs” means a company is putting most of its effort into electric cars. In this segment, it’s Volvo deciding to focus strongly on EVs.

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Polestar 4

"Lindsay, you just had the, what was it, the Polestar 4? ... The one without the window. Without the back window, yeah."

The Polestar 4 is an electric car from Polestar. The hosts are talking about its unusual rear-window/visibility setup and how they got used to it after driving it.

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Lucid Air

"and it's interesting, like I had the lucid air before that. And like you Lynn, I don't have charging capabilities"

The Lucid Air is an electric luxury car. The speaker is saying it feels really good to drive—smooth and balanced—because the car is set up well, not just because it’s electric.

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driving dynamics

"They're masterful at driving dynamics, right? I mean, those things are, they're so well sorted."

Driving dynamics are how the car behaves when you drive it—how it steers, how it grips the road, and how it feels when you accelerate or brake. A “masterful” driving dynamics car feels controlled and fun, not awkward.

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chassis is tuned perfectly

"The chassis is tuned perfectly. That's why I was always such a conundrum in my head"

The chassis is basically the car’s foundation for handling. “Tuned perfectly” means the suspension and steering are set up so the car feels balanced and responds the way the driver expects.

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wait and see approach

"companies who have taken maybe what some people would call as like sort of a, let's like hang back and wait and see approach, maybe not at the tip of the spear."

A wait and see approach means holding back a bit until you’re more sure what will happen. In cars, it can mean not jumping into a new technology right away.

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Toyota

"I look at Toyota and I think, boy, no one looks smarter than Toyota right now, right? Throwing in hybrid technology..."

Toyota is a big car company. Here, the point is that Toyota has leaned hard into hybrid cars (gas + electric) and is benefiting from that strategy.

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EV

"well, hey, we're not the EV, V8, we're the hybrid guy."

EV means electric vehicle. It runs mainly on electricity stored in a battery, not on a gas engine for driving.

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SUV

"an SUV right now is a little bit [1863.8s] of a poor excuse for just like a slightly raised car."

An SUV is a type of car that sits higher and usually has a more upright shape. People often buy them because they feel more commanding and sometimes assume they’re better for rough roads. The host’s point is that for many SUVs, the “higher” feeling is mostly from where the seat sits, not from being much higher off the ground.

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ground clearance

"I mean, can we talk about the ground clearance? [1870.3s] That's ridiculous."

Ground clearance is how much space there is between the bottom of the car and the ground. More clearance helps when roads are bumpy or uneven because you’re less likely to hit the pavement underneath. Here, the host is saying many SUVs don’t really have that much extra space.

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greenhouse

"is where the seat is bolted in, which is higher up [1887.3s] and you've got no greenhouse."

The greenhouse is the part of the car that’s mostly glass around the cabin—like the windshield and side windows. It helps define what the driver can see and how the cabin looks. The host is saying the “higher” feeling comes from seat height, not from the car being much higher overall.

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sedans

"[1907.5s] because I think sedans are on the comeback"

A sedan is a car with a separate trunk in the back. People call it a “comeback” when more buyers start choosing this classic car shape again.

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Ferrari's new, quote unquote, manual

"[1961.5s] There's so much we didn't get to. [1963.6s] I wanted to ask you about Ferrari's new, [1965.8s] quote unquote, manual. [1967.9s] Can we just talk for one second about all of these things?"

They’re talking about Ferrari offering a “manual” style gearbox. Ferrari usually uses automated gearboxes, so this is interesting—and the “quote unquote” hints it might not be a classic stick shift.

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lintake

"[1972.0s] I wonder the lintake on this because. [1974.2s] Okay, okay."

This sounds like it might mean the car’s air intake. The intake is how air gets into the engine, and that can affect how the car runs.

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Chrysler Pacifica

"...icated fans. He might be the most ardent Chrysler Pacifica enthusiast there ever was."

The Chrysler Pacifica is a minivan made for families. It’s designed to be comfortable and practical for everyday driving. The podcast mentions it because some owners really love it.

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S plus mode

"And I feel like this about the Honda prelude kind of did a little bit of this with their S plus mode."

“S plus mode” is a sports driving setting. It’s meant to make the car respond faster and feel more exciting than the regular driving mode.

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Ferrari Luce

"Yeah. Whether it's the prelude, whether it's the luce, whether it's the the GT four door coupe, how man..."

The Ferrari Luce is a model name from Ferrari. It’s mentioned alongside other Ferrari cars, suggesting it’s part of their lineup. The conversation is likely about how the models compare or relate.

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launch control

"[2115.8s] Lynn, it's like launch control, right? [2117.9s] You impress your friends a couple of times,"

Launch control is a feature that helps a car get off the line as fast as possible. It controls things like engine revs and traction so you don’t just spin the wheels when you floor it.

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gated shifter

"[2120.7s] And I think that's what's going to happen to this damn gated [2122.9s] shifter and this."

A gated shifter is a gear shifter that has fixed slots (“gates”) for each gear. It can feel more exact than a free-moving shifter, but the mechanism can wear over time if you use it a lot.

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ambient lighting

"[2133.5s] To me, it's almost like ambient lighting, right? [2136.5s] What person goes in there and is like,"

Ambient lighting is the soft colored light inside the car that sets the mood. Some cars let you change the color, and it can cost extra depending on the trim.

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club mode

"[2153.0s] Again, I might be the old lady in the room [2155.1s] who where the kids are like, no, I'm in a club mode"

“Club mode” sounds like a preset mode you can turn on in the car. It changes how the car feels or looks, kind of like picking a theme.

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Honda Prelude

"But it almost felt, and this is my issue with Honda because listen, the prelude is another great example, right? ... Four-wheel steering. Four-wheel steering, the V-Tech, you know, engine, like all of these things that they had"

The Honda Prelude is a Honda coupe that became popular with car fans because it often had interesting, techy features for its time. Here, they’re using it as an example of Honda “trying new things.”

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four-wheel steering

"Like this is what they like hung their hat on. Four-wheel steering. Four-wheel steering, the V-Tech, you know, engine, like all of these things that they had"

Four-wheel steering means the rear wheels can turn too, not just the front wheels. That can make the car easier to maneuver at low speeds and steadier at higher speeds.

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V-Tech

"Four-wheel steering, the V-Tech, you know, engine, like all of these things that they had, that they implemented in these cars."

VTEC (called “V-Tech” in the transcript) is Honda’s system that changes how the engine’s valves work. The idea is to make the engine feel more powerful when you need it, without wasting fuel all the time.

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simulated shifts

"And they're telling me that the new thing that they're trying out is this like noise and simulated shifts."

Simulated shifts are when a car pretends to shift gears, even if the transmission isn’t actually doing a traditional gear change. It’s meant to make the driving feel more like a manual.

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throttle

"because you're actually just interrupting my throttle. So I'm not a fan of that."

The throttle is what controls how much power the engine is allowed to make. If something interrupts it, the car can feel less responsive when you press the pedal.

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Type R bits

"To me, the secret sauce in the prelude is the fact that you've got Type R bits underneath there."

“Type R bits” means performance parts that are meant to make a Honda feel more aggressive and track-ready. The idea is that adding those parts to another Honda can make it handle and respond more like a Type R.

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Honda Integra

"But put the manual from the Integra in the prelude, right? Done."

The Honda Integra is a sporty Honda, and a big part of its reputation is the manual gearbox in enthusiast trims. The host is basically saying the Prelude would be more fun if it had the Integra’s manual setup.

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Acura Integra

"that's like whatever. But put the manual from the Integra in the prelude, right? Done."

The Acura Integra is a smaller sporty car from Acura. Some versions are known for having a manual transmission, which means you shift gears yourself. The podcast mentions it because people like that manual driving feel.

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powertrain

"I don't know how they would do it because they have to change the powertrain on that."

A powertrain is the set of parts that make the car move—engine and the stuff that sends power to the wheels. If you want a different transmission or layout, you often have to redesign parts of the powertrain.

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spirited drive

"every once in a while, [2316.1s] they like to do a little spirited drive like, [2318.3s] oh, I'm going to get on this on-ramp."

A “spirited drive” means driving with more energy than usual—faster acceleration and more enthusiastic cornering. It’s not everyday commuting pace.

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on-ramp

"every once in a while, [2316.1s] they like to do a little spirited drive like, [2318.3s] oh, I'm going to get on this on-ramp."

An “on-ramp” is the road you use to get onto the highway. It’s where you often accelerate and merge, so the car’s responsiveness matters.

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underpinnings

"And so they do appreciate the underpinnings [2328.2s] and some of those suspension bits on the Type R."

“Underpinnings” means the car’s basic structure and engineering foundation. It’s the stuff underneath that affects how the car handles and rides.

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suspension bits

"And so they do appreciate the underpinnings [2328.2s] and some of those suspension bits on the Type R."

“Suspension bits” are the parts that help the car absorb bumps and stay stable when you turn. Better suspension usually makes the car feel more controlled and fun.

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JLR

"I am a guest of JLR this year. So I do attend a lot of the events that they put on."

JLR means Jaguar Land Rover. It’s the company that runs events for Jaguar and Land Rover cars, like previews and model reveals.

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Defender

"From what I hear, they're doing quite a bit with Defender, which I think sounds really terrific."

The Defender is a Land Rover SUV built for serious off-road driving. The host is saying Jaguar Land Rover is featuring it heavily this year.

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Land Rover Range Rover

"They always, they have a great reveal always for some special Range Rover that they do,"

Range Rover is Land Rover’s luxury SUV lineup. The host is talking about a big “reveal” for a special version of one.

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dawn patrol

"I like going early, not dawn patrol. The only way I'll do dawn patrol ever is if I'm staying at the lodge at Pebble Beach,"

“Dawn patrol” just means waking up super early. At car events, it usually means arriving early so you can see everything before it gets busy.

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Pebble Beach

"The only way I'll do dawn patrol ever is if I'm staying at the lodge at Pebble Beach, I can roll out my pajamas."

Pebble Beach is a well-known luxury resort area in California. Car fans associate it with big, fancy car events where people show off rare and beautiful cars.

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off-road vehicles

"the last couple of years they've had off-road vehicles on the lawn, they were the first ones to really do a significant showcase of off-road vehicles"

Off-road vehicles are built for dirt roads, trails, and rough ground. They’re made to grip better and handle bumps and uneven surfaces than regular cars.

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Ford Expedition

"...me of the Queens vehicles, or some of their great expedition vehicles last year. Huge hit, which to me also in..."

The Ford Expedition is a big SUV that can seat more people and handle longer trips. It’s designed for practical family use and can also be good for towing. That’s why it often gets mentioned when people talk about popular large SUVs.

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car week

"like I want to go to car week, but I can't swing a ticket to the quail or whatever. I say, go to the auctions."

“Car Week” is when a bunch of big car events happen around the same time, so collectors and enthusiasts can see and buy cars. It’s a fun week because you can watch auctions and previews leading up to the big public displays.

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the quail

"like I want to go to car week, but I can't swing a ticket to the quail or whatever."

“The Quail” is a well-known collector-car event name that’s part of the broader Car Week ecosystem. It’s typically associated with high-end displays and attracts serious collectors, which is why tickets can be hard to get.

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auctions

"I say, go to the auctions. Yeah, there's so much excitement there."

Here, “auctions” means events where people bid on cars to buy them. There are usually preview days too, so you can see the cars before bidding starts.

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previews

"Right, go to the previews or whatever, at least. And see what's out there, because you're gonna see"

“Previews” are the days before the auction where you can walk around and look at the cars. It helps you figure out what’s worth bidding on.

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buyer's remorse

"Sure, I'll pay a million dollars for it. And then afterwards, you probably have buyer's remorse,"

“Buyer’s remorse” means regretting a purchase after you’ve already bought it. In auctions, it can hit when you pay more than you planned because the excitement takes over.

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