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Most Fun Family Cars, Letting Go Of Emotions, Quantifying Track Records | Episode 1,017

Most Fun Family Cars, Letting Go Of Emotions, Quantifying Track Records | Episode 1,017

Everyday Driver Car Debate Oct 21, 2025 89 min
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About this episode

Exploring the most fun family cars across various price points, this episode dives into unique recommendations while reflecting on emotional connections to vehicles. The hosts discuss the discontinuation of popular models like the Cadillac Blackwings and Lexus LS, and share insights from a recent press event for the 2026 Toyota RAV4. Listeners are treated to a lively debate on the merits of different cars, from the BMW 3 Series to the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, while also addressing the emotional challenges of letting go of beloved vehicles.

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Toyota RAV4
TTTNIS (CC0)
Car

Toyota RAV4

"...but we've just gotten back from a cool press launch. I was just going to say, tomorrow drops the film for the 2026 RAV4, so we just drove that. We were at the press event in Arizona..."

The Toyota RAV4 is a popular SUV known for being spacious and reliable. The 2026 version is the latest model, which usually comes with new features and improvements.

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Ford F150
UltraTech66 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford F150

"...to honor 50 years of the Ford F-150 legacy. I just can't believe this exists."

The Ford F-150 is a popular truck that many people use for work and everyday tasks. It's known for being strong and reliable, making it a favorite among truck buyers.

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Term

key fob

"Behind it, everybody, is your actual Ford key fob."

A key fob is a little gadget that you use to unlock and start your car without using a traditional key. It makes it easier to get in and drive your vehicle.

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Jeep Wrangler
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Jeep Wrangler

"...fect. It's been a long time since we've heard the Wrangler voice. That was fantastic."
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Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
Damian B Oh (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing

"Well, in other news, Cadillac has decided that they are no longer going to be producing the black wings, the CT5-V black wing,"

The Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing is a fast and powerful version of the Cadillac CT5 car. It has special features that make it great for both everyday driving and racing on a track.

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Cadillac CT5
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Car

Cadillac CT5

"...Cadillac has confirmed that the CT5 will eventually be replaced by a next-generation vehicle..."

The Cadillac CT5 is a luxury car that is bigger than the CT4. It combines comfort and technology, making it a good choice for those looking for a nice sedan.

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Term

manual transmission

"with a manual transmission, because at that point, they would almost stand alone in the marketplace, just about globally. Just about."

A manual transmission is a system in cars where you have to change gears yourself, using a stick and a pedal. It gives you more control over how the car drives.

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Chevrolet Corvettes
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Chevrolet Corvettes

"...let's hope it also means a manual. I'm also holding out, hope that the next Corvette's going to be a manual."

The Corvette is a famous sports car made by Chevrolet. It's known for being fast and stylish, and many people love it for its performance.

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Lexus LS
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lexus LS

"Now, this is the car that put Lexus on the map. They're big LS sedan. Which seems like a really big loss."

The Lexus LS is a large luxury car that has been important for the Lexus brand since it started. It's known for being very comfortable and packed with high-tech features.

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Lexus
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lexus

"they are going to put the Century brand, which has Toyota history, above Lexus."

Lexus is a luxury car brand that comes from Toyota. They make high-end cars that are very comfortable and packed with features.

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Brand

Bentley

"the concept here is this is chasing roles, Bentley, the Maibach versions of the S-Class."

Bentley is a brand that makes very expensive and luxurious cars, often known for their quality and performance.

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Mercedes-Benz Sclass
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mercedes-Benz Sclass

"But the concept here is this is chasing roles, Bentley, the Maibach versions of the S-Class. This is what they're going up market."
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Brand

Maybach

"the Maibach versions of the S-Class. This is what they're going up market."

Maybach is a very high-end car brand that makes some of the most luxurious cars in the world, often with lots of special features.

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Concept

hyper luxurious

"They're trying to make hyper luxurious, super customized, wildly nice vehicles for the right buyer."

Hyper luxurious means very, very fancy and comfortable cars that have a lot of special features and high-quality materials.

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Lexus LFA
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Car

Lexus LFA

"...e a $300,000 Toyota product? I mean, granted, the LFA was super expensive but it came out."
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Car

Toyota LFA

"I mean, granted, the LFA was super expensive but it came out."

The Toyota LFA is a very expensive sports car made by Toyota. It's known for being fast and having a special engine that sounds great. Only a few were made, which makes it special.

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Ford Mustang
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Car

Ford Mustang

"And Mustang, as we think about it."

The Mustang is a famous car made by Ford that is known for being fast and sporty. It's been around for a long time and is popular among car enthusiasts.

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Concept

Formula One

"Specifically because of Formula One in 2026."

Formula One is a type of car racing that features very fast cars and is held in different countries around the world.

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Cadillac Celestiq
Mr.choppers (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Cadillac Celestiq

"...especially with Cadillac going racing. Yeah, and I don't think, obviously Cadillac, that's their big EV flagship"

The Cadillac Celestiq is a new luxury electric car from Cadillac. It's designed to be high-end and has a lot of modern features, making it a competitor in the luxury electric vehicle market.

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Term

hybrid

"I doubt that Century is going to be EV though I do expect it to be hybrid because that's Toyota's thing."

A hybrid car uses both a gas engine and an electric motor. This helps it use less fuel and produce fewer emissions than regular cars.

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Honda Civic
MercurySable99 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Honda Civic

"He says the Honda Civic is a good example. Barring the type R,"

The Honda Civic is a small car that many people like because it's dependable and gets good gas mileage. It's been around for a long time and comes in different versions to suit different needs.

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BMW New Bmw
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW New Bmw

"What I've got on screen is the new BMW X3 because this starting is $50,000."

The BMW X3 is a type of SUV that offers a mix of comfort and luxury. It's designed for people who want a nice vehicle that can also handle everyday driving needs.

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Bmw X3
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Bmw X3

"...ntifying that. What I've got on screen is the new BMW X3 because this starting is $50,000."
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Concept

near luxury

"Near luxury, it's not high-end luxury"

'Near luxury' cars are those that have some nice features and comforts but aren't as expensive or fancy as the top luxury brands. They are a good choice for people who want a bit of luxury without spending too much.

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Toyota Tacoma
Noah Wulf (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Toyota Tacoma

"You can do the Ranger and the Tacoma, which are the small pickups."

The Toyota Tacoma is another smaller pickup truck that is known for being tough and good for off-roading. It's popular for people who like outdoor activities.

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Ford Ranger
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Ranger

"...ave to buy a big hillot even base. You can do the Ranger and the Tacoma, which are the small pickups."
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GMC Sierra
Kevauto (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

GMC Sierra

"If you go for the F-150, get a trucker. If you go for the F-150, or you go for the Sierra,"

The GMC Sierra is another popular pickup truck that is similar to the Ford F-150. It is known for being comfortable and having good features.

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Chevrolet Silverado
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Car

Chevrolet Silverado

"...o for the F-150, or you go for the Sierra, or the Silverado, or whatever, the Tundra, the one you want of tha..."
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Toyota Tundra
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Car

Toyota Tundra

"...or the Sierra, or the Silverado, or whatever, the Tundra, the one you want of that is 60 to 70 grand."
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Nissan Armada
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Car

Nissan Armada

"The boat themed Trukel for your Armada."

The Nissan Armada is a large SUV that can carry many people and is good for towing trailers or boats.

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Term

SUV

"...the only thing that competes with SUVs like the RAV4..."

An SUV is a larger vehicle that can carry more people and cargo, and it's often used for both city driving and off-road adventures.

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Subaru Wrxs
Clément Bucco-Lechat (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Subaru Wrxs

"I also, look, I wanna acknowledge GTI's work here, Civic SI's work, WRX's work, Elantra N's work, the Integra is a great four-door family car,"
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Hyundai Elantra
Crisco 1492 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Hyundai Elantra

"GTI's work here, Civic SI's work, WRX's work, Elantra N's work, the Integra is a great four-door family..."
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Bmw 3
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Bmw 3

"...d to start with it at five grand, and that is the BMW 3 Series. Did you know that the non-M, E90 generati..."
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Infiniti G37
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Infiniti G37

"So $5,000 BMW 3 Series moving up to $10,000. The Infiniti G37 sedan, you remember these? I do."
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Ford Edge
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Edge

"... four doors, four seats, the tech was not cutting edge at the time these cars were released."
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Kia Stinger
MarcelX42 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Kia Stinger

"...ve that one there. Jumping up to $20,000, the Kia Stinger GT. That's cool."
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Alfa Romeo Giulia
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Alfa Romeo Giulia

"you knew it was coming, the Alpha Giulia Quadrifoglio. If I had $50,000 and somebody said ..."
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Porsche Panamera
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Panamera

"...ing up to $75,000. Tons of options of the Porsche Panamera. It's great."
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Porsche 911
David Villarreal Fernández (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Car

Porsche 911

"The hatch isn't huge, okay? But I think the 911, below the GT cars,"
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Porsche Cayman
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Cayman

"Well, that signature is going for the new Cayman and Boxster, I believe. And I'm not convinced."
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Porsche Boxster
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Boxster

"...l, that signature is going for the new Cayman and Boxster, I believe. And I'm not convinced."
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Maserati Gran Turismo
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Maserati Gran Turismo

"...ause it's only two doors. But I am showing a 2024 Maserati Gran Turismo Modena. Now this is a step down from the Trofeo t..."
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BMW M5
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW M5

"... all have in our head is like the icon is the E39 M5. Pretty much."
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BMW E39
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW E39

"...t we all have in our head is like the icon is the E39 M5. Pretty much."
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Cadillac CT4
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Cadillac CT4

"...ower, interesting engine, fantastic dynamics, the CT4 and 5 are both excellent. These right now, 100 gr..."
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Acura Tl
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Car

Acura Tl

"That's a great one. And I also had toyed with the Acura TL. That 05 to 08, we always liked."
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Subaru Impreza
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Subaru Impreza

"...range, I just have one. And that is a 2014 Subaru Impreza WRX wagon for $9,900 straight up 100,000 miles."
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Infiniti Q50
Tino Rossini (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Infiniti Q50

"There you go. Infinity Q50 Red Sport 400. I can't believe those are that che..."
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Mazda 3
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mazda 3

"Liked that car. I can't not say Mazda 3 Turbo. I love this thing."
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Audi Rs3
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Audi Rs3

"...owing up here. But the runners up include an Audi RS3 for 50K. That's a lot of cars."
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BMW F80
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW F80

"which I also, I love and acknowledge. The F80, BMW M3, I cannot leave alone. I have to mention ..."
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Genesis G70
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Car

Genesis G70

"That's for sure. The Portamale Track, the Genesis G70, 2.5. Excellent."
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Volvo S60
Thesupermat (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Volvo S60

"Excellent. And finally, again, Volvo S60. Well, I guess this is one duplicate,"
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Hyundai Ioniq
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Car

Hyundai Ioniq

"...t for, well, this is under 70, just under 70, the Hyundai Ioniq 5N. I think this could absolutely be your family ..."
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Polestar 2
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Polestar 2

"I kind of had a bad attitude about. That was the Polestar 2. I found this to also be fun."
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BMW E63S
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW E63S

"Oh, OK. The Mercedes estate, the E63S estate with 600 horsepower. That's hard to argue."
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Porsche Cayenne
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Cayenne

"...we're going to see that reflected on the upcoming Cayenne. It's, of course, part of the Macan design langua..."
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Porsche Macan
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Macan

"...he upcoming Cayenne. It's, of course, part of the Macan design language. See it on the Cayenne."
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Porsche Taycan
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Taycan

"...t I like is that that design language used on the Taycan I'm all about. I can see it."
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Cadillac XT5
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Cadillac XT5

"...rive it too much and his wife has a 2018 Cadillac XT5. That's paid off and working great,"
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Scion Frs
MercurySable99 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Scion Frs

"...ou wanna go out and just get time with it? So the FRS, the Lancer, the Mini Cooper, all the ones that h..."
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Mitsubishi Lancer
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Car

Mitsubishi Lancer

"...go out and just get time with it? So the FRS, the Lancer, the Mini Cooper, all the ones that have gone thr..."
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Nissan Maxima
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Nissan Maxima

"I recommended a four-door sports car, the Nissan Maxima in 1990, when I was in junior high and I was righ..."
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Audi S3
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Audi S3

"All right, Josh, at the top of his list, Audi S3, S4 and TTS. These are at the very top, BMW 2 or ..."
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Bmw 2
多多123 (CC BY 4.0)
Car

Bmw 2

"Audi S3, S4 and TTS. These are at the very top, BMW 2 or 3 series. I want to brag on you again."
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Kia K5
Benespit (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Kia K5

"Gotta go drive these. Kia K5 GT, okay, good, but I like the Stinger GT2 and th..."
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Volkswagen Jetta
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Volkswagen Jetta

"In there. Volkswagen Golf R, GTI, or Jetta GLI. I will XNA the GLI, do not get a Jetta GLI."
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Volkswagen Golf
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Volkswagen Golf

"In there. Volkswagen Golf R, GTI, or Jetta GLI. I will XNA the GLI, do not ..."
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Tesla Model 3
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Tesla Model 3

"... well, of course it's good. Even suggests a Tesla Model 3 performance. No exhaust drama, he admits,"
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Tesla Model
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Tesla Model

"... CT4V, well, of course it's good. Even suggests a Tesla Model 3 performance. No exhaust drama, he admits,"
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Acura Tlx
Mr.choppers (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Acura Tlx

"...you'll really like that car. And the 2020 to 2022 Acura TLX. Actually that 2022, the TLX,"
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Hyundai Veloster
Benespit (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Hyundai Veloster

"but you know what you can do? The Veloster N. That might be actually, that's a great choice."
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BMW M2
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Car

BMW M2

"... on right now on Auto Tempest. If you look up the M2, sorry, the two series of this generation,"
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Morgan Six Plus
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Morgan Six Plus

"and ordered a GR86. He loves it, but it's a six plus hour drive to the nearest track."
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Lotus Elise
Thierry & Didier Descouens (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lotus Elise

"...p piece. We did 2,000 miles in the C8 and Milotis Elise, and we went all the way across the northern end ..."
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Volkswagen Tiguan
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Volkswagen Tiguan

"...a truck guy, and the GTIs paid off and his wife's Tiguan is plenty for road trips and winter driving."
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Hyundai Santa Cruz
Zeometric (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Car

Hyundai Santa Cruz

"Really? The Santa Cruz tows 5,000 pounds. And what it is is a normal tru..."
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Porsche 959
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche 959

"This is quite a while ago. This was episode 959. So sometime last year or so."
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Hyundai Genesis
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Hyundai Genesis

"...videos since 2012 when we released the FRS versus Genesis Coupe versus the Lotus Elise."
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Pontiac Solstice
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Car

Pontiac Solstice

"...fter searching for months, he found an 07 Pontiac Solstice GXP in gray, five-speed manual with 90,000 miles,"
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Subaru BRZ
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Subaru BRZ

"...re's not fun, fast sports car drivers. Here's the BRZ over here going, what am I doing here?"
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