My Waymo Test; Toyota Concept; Hertz AI; FL Speed Law
About this episode
A remote podcast session sees hosts discussing their experiences with Waymo rides in Los Angeles, including the app's functionality and the car's cautious driving style. They also recap the Classics on the Green concours event in Seattle, highlighting unique cars like a Harlequin Beetle and a vintage Alpine A110. The conversation shifts to Hertz's controversial use of AI to identify rental car damages, raising concerns about fairness and transparency. The hosts also address listener questions about car choices for new drivers and the future of automotive design.
Matt rode in a Waymo; tells tales from the Avants event in Seattle; Zack's car is falling apart while being put back together; Florida has a new law for speeders; Toyota showed off a concept; and we answer Patreon questions including:
- What's a good car for an artsy college student?
- Is my car too fast for track days?
- Is the T.33 worth the money?
- Could Porsche bring back the 912?
- What should the next Miata be?
- Favorite automotive conspiracy theory
- Best car for a new driver
- Least desirable million dollar car
- Best watch no one has heard of
- Which seats are the best to watch a motorsports event?
- And more!
Recorded July 14, 2025
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Honda Civic
"...e some great stuff I saw and really good variety. Civic Northwest always delivers in their variety. It's ..."
The Honda Civic is a small car that many people like because it runs well and doesn't use too much gas. It's a good choice for everyday driving and is often talked about because it's been around for a long time and has a lot of different versions.
The Honda Civic is a compact car known for its reliability, fuel efficiency, and practicality. It has been a popular choice among drivers for decades, often praised for its balance of performance and comfort, making it a common topic in automotive discussions.
Mini Classic Minis
"...s. There was a whole slew of interesting modified classic minis. There was a meeting of seven Harlequin golfs alo..."
The Classic Mini is a tiny car that people love for its cute look and fun driving experience. Many owners customize them to make them even more special, which is why they are often seen in car shows.
The Classic Mini, produced from 1959 to 2000, is a small, iconic British car that has a cult following. Its unique design and nimble handling make it a favorite among car enthusiasts, especially when modified for performance or style.
Volkswagen Golfs
"...sic minis. There was a meeting of seven Harlequin golfs along with a Harlequin beetle. Exactly. Did you k..."
Volkswagen Beetle
"...the friendliest beetle in, I mean, it almost like represents the entire image of that car and the market behind it and why people loved it so much. Yeah. But it's, you know, it's a night. It's from the same year as the golf. So that's like a 1994 something, which was pretty fun."
The Volkswagen Beetle is a famous car that looks very unique. The one being talked about is from 1994, which is one of the later versions of this classic car.
The Volkswagen Beetle is an iconic car known for its distinctive shape and history. The model mentioned here is from 1994, which is part of the later generations of the Beetle that continued to evolve from its original design.
Metro 6R4
"...they brought down the Metro and they brought down the Monshire Delta S4..."
The Metro 6R4 is a rally car made by Rover. It was built to compete in rally races and has a special design that helps it perform well on rough terrain.
The Metro 6R4 is a rally car developed by Rover for Group B competition. It features a unique design and was known for its all-wheel-drive system and powerful V6 engine.
Lancia Delta S4
"...but it's actually just a pure rally car. This is a fin. He doesn't really want to say hi..."
The Lancia Delta S4 is a famous rally car from the 1980s. It was designed to compete in tough off-road races and is known for its unique look and powerful engine.
The Lancia Delta S4 is a legendary rally car known for its impressive performance and distinctive design. It was built for Group B rallying in the 1980s and features a mid-engine layout and turbocharged power.
Dodge Viper
"...eah, wow. So, but yeah, no, growing pains, right? Viper, Viper truck showing a viper was very fun. That's..."
The Dodge Viper is a super-fast sports car that stands out because of its big engine and bold design. It’s popular among car lovers who enjoy speed and power.
The Dodge Viper is a high-performance sports car known for its powerful V10 engine and aggressive styling. It has a cult following and is often discussed for its raw performance and distinctive character.
Alpine A110
"...there was an original Alpine A110, like the 70s one. I couldn't, there it is. The smallest thing in the world."
The Alpine A110 is a small sports car from the 1970s that is famous for being lightweight and fun to drive. It had its engine located at the back, which made it different from many other cars of its time.
The Alpine A110 is a classic sports car known for its lightweight design and agile handling, popular in rally racing during the 1970s. It features a distinctive shape and was powered by a rear-mounted engine, contributing to its unique driving dynamics.
longitudinally mounted
"Yeah, the engine is completely behind the axle, fully, fully, fully behind the axle and longitudinally mounted."
When an engine is placed in a car so that it runs along the length of the car instead of across it, that's called longitudinally mounted. It helps with balance and performance.
A longitudinally mounted engine is installed in a vehicle with its axis aligned parallel to the direction of travel. This configuration can improve weight distribution and handling characteristics.
EVO 6
"It's next to like an EVO. What is that? Like an EVO 6."
The EVO 6 is a fast car made by Mitsubishi that was built for racing and has a strong following among car enthusiasts.
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 6, commonly known as EVO 6, is a high-performance version of the Mitsubishi Lancer. It is known for its rally heritage and all-wheel-drive system.
Delorean DMC-12
"...turbo PRV V6. So it's a twin turbo version of the Delorean engine. Right. Pretty fun. I wonder how that work..."
The DeLorean DMC-12 is a one-of-a-kind car with cool doors that open upwards. It's famous for being in movies and is loved by collectors.
The DeLorean DMC-12 is a unique sports car known for its distinctive gull-wing doors and stainless steel body. It gained fame from its appearance in the 'Back to the Future' movies, making it a popular topic in automotive culture.
twin turbo
"That has a twin turbo PRV V6. So it's a twin turbo version of the Delorean engine."
When a car has two turbochargers instead of one, it's called twin turbo. This helps the engine produce more power.
A twin turbo setup uses two turbochargers to increase an engine's power output by forcing more air into the combustion chamber, resulting in better performance.
Toyota Tacoma
"...people. And if you live in, you know, the Seattle Tacoma, Portland, you know, area Vancouver, definitely p..."
The Toyota Tacoma is a sturdy truck that can handle rough roads and is great for carrying things. People like it because it’s reliable and can be used for both work and play.
The Toyota Tacoma is a midsize pickup truck known for its durability and off-road capabilities. It's particularly popular in regions with rugged terrain, making it a frequent topic in discussions about versatile vehicles.
Ferrari 250 GTO
"But there's like a casual 250 GTO back there that didn't even."
The Ferrari 250 GTO is a classic race car from the early 1960s that is highly sought after by collectors. It's famous for its beauty and performance, and very few were made.
The Ferrari 250 GTO is one of the most iconic and valuable sports cars ever made, known for its racing pedigree and stunning design. Only 39 units were produced between 1962 and 1964, making it extremely rare.
Pontiac GTO
"...it on the schedule. But there's like a casual 250 GTO back there that didn't even. And look at this. Is..."
Chrysler Daytona
"... this a gold Dino? Wow. With a gold dates, a gold Daytona probably owned by the same person. Yeah, Jewish r..."
The Chrysler Daytona is a cool-looking car from the 1980s that was designed to be sporty. It’s talked about because it has a unique style and was popular during its time.
The Chrysler Daytona is a sporty coupe that was produced in the 1980s and is known for its distinctive styling and performance. It often comes up in discussions about classic American cars from that era.
Lamborghini LM002
"The LM002 and that escort Cosworth are owned by friends of the show Ben Abrams..."
The Lamborghini LM002 is a big, powerful SUV made by Lamborghini in the late 1980s and early 1990s. It's known for its unique look and strong engine.
The Lamborghini LM002 is a luxury SUV produced by Lamborghini from 1986 to 1993. It is known for its rugged design and powerful V12 engine, often referred to as the 'Rambo Lambo'.
Ford Escort Cosworth
"The LM002 and that escort Cosworth are owned by friends of the show Ben Abrams..."
The Ford Escort Cosworth is a sporty version of the regular Ford Escort made in the early 1990s. It's famous for being fast and for its success in rally racing.
The Ford Escort Cosworth is a high-performance version of the Ford Escort, produced in the early 1990s. It is known for its turbocharged engine and rally heritage.
SSC Tuatara
"There's the SSC Tuatara that Zach and I will be driving in two weeks in Washington state. I met Jared Shelby. He was very nice of us at Jared Shelby of SSC. No relation to Carol Shelby."
The SSC Tuatara is a super-fast car made by a company called SSC. It's designed to be one of the fastest cars in the world, with a very powerful engine.
The SSC Tuatara is a high-performance hypercar manufactured by SSC North America, known for its extreme speed and advanced aerodynamics. It features a powerful twin-turbo V8 engine and aims to compete for the title of the world's fastest production car.
SSC
"There's the SSC Tuatara that Zach and I will be driving in two weeks in Washington state. I met Jared Shelby. He was very nice of us at Jared Shelby of SSC. No relation to Carol Shelby."
SSC is a company that makes very fast and powerful cars. They are known for creating supercars that compete for speed records.
SSC, or Shelby SuperCars, is an American manufacturer known for producing high-performance supercars, including the SSC Tuatara. The company was founded by Jared Shelby and focuses on speed and innovation in automotive design.
B pillar
"...my B pillar near the driver's side has been like leaning for about a month. And I went, well, they're going to take care of that..."
The B pillar is the metal part of the car that you see between the front and back doors. It helps keep the car strong and safe, especially if there's an accident.
The B pillar is a structural component of a vehicle that runs vertically between the front and rear doors. It plays a crucial role in the car's safety and rigidity, especially in side-impact collisions.
door card
"...to put it back in place, you have to take off the door card, like the rear door card. It's a huge pain in the ass..."
The door card is the flat piece on the inside of the car door that you can see and touch. It covers up the parts inside the door and often has buttons for windows and locks.
The door card is the interior panel that covers the door's structure and components. It typically houses controls for windows, locks, and sometimes speakers, and contributes to the car's overall aesthetics.
Jaguar I-PACE
"the Jaguar I-PACE. The one I was in today had only 1100 miles on it. So I guess they, they still have new Jaguar."
The Jaguar I-PACE is an electric SUV that is known for being stylish and eco-friendly. It has won several awards for its design and features.
The Jaguar I-PACE is an all-electric luxury SUV that combines performance with sustainability. It has received numerous accolades for its design and technology, including various 'Car of the Year' awards.
Waymo
"...I filmed the very end of this of this Waymo ride because it was particularly funny because I, it seemingly the car, you know, it more or less did everything right now."
Waymo is a company that makes cars that can drive themselves without a human driver. They are known for their self-driving technology and offer rides in these cars.
Waymo is a self-driving technology company and a subsidiary of Alphabet Inc. It focuses on developing autonomous vehicle technology and operates a ride-hailing service using self-driving cars.
Rolls-Royce Phantom
"...And it didn't, it didn't have like, like, full on Phantom breaking, but it definitely hit the brakes for st..."
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is an extremely fancy car that’s all about luxury and comfort. People admire it for its beautiful design and smooth ride.
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a luxury sedan known for its opulence, craftsmanship, and powerful performance. It represents the pinnacle of luxury automotive engineering and is often discussed for its status and exclusivity.
Toyota Supra
"...I recently bought a 2021 Supra and I want to get into track days."
The Toyota Supra is a fast sports car that many people love to drive on race tracks. The 2021 version has a powerful engine that makes it exciting to drive.
The Toyota Supra is a sports car known for its performance and handling, especially on the track. The 2021 model features a turbocharged inline-six engine and is popular among car enthusiasts for its tuning potential and driving dynamics.
stability control
"...but if you leave the stability control and stuff on,"
Stability control is a system in cars that helps keep them from sliding or losing control, especially when turning quickly. It does this by applying brakes to certain wheels when needed.
Stability control is a safety feature in modern vehicles that helps prevent skidding and loss of control during sharp turns or sudden maneuvers. It works by automatically applying brakes to individual wheels to help the driver maintain control of the vehicle.
apexing
"...you're working on turn ins and apexing in your line, and they don't want you thinking about your gears are going fast,..."
Apexing is when you drive as close as possible to the inside edge of a turn. It's important for going around corners quickly and smoothly.
Apexing refers to the point in a corner where a driver aims to hit the closest point to the inside of the turn. This technique is crucial for maintaining speed and control through a corner.
turn ins
"...you're working on turn ins and apexing in your line, and they don't want you thinking about your gears are going fast,..."
Turn ins are when you start to turn your car into a corner. It's important to do this correctly to keep your speed and stay in control.
Turn ins are the moments when a driver begins to steer into a corner. Proper turn in technique is essential for maintaining speed and control during a turn.
full throttle
"...as long as you understand that you don't actually need to be at full throttle all the time to back up..."
Full throttle means pushing the gas pedal all the way down to make the car go as fast as it can. It's important to know when to do this while driving.
Full throttle refers to pressing the accelerator pedal all the way down to achieve maximum power and speed from the engine. It's often used in discussions about driving technique and performance.
T33
"All right, bad gardener says he watched the T33 go up the hill at Goodwood said it sounds interesting, but a little tinny. And the hood looked like it was going to fall off based off of that and the understated styling."
The T33 is a high-performance sports car designed by Gordon Murray, a famous automotive engineer. It's known for being very light and focused on delivering a great driving experience.
The Gordon Murray Automotive T33 is a supercar known for its lightweight construction and high-performance engineering. It features a unique design philosophy that emphasizes driving purity and engagement.
Gordon T50
"...h time talking about it being pretty. And I think T50 and T33 are the same way. They're not traditional..."
The Gordon Murray T.50 is a super-fast car that’s designed to be very light and quick. It’s talked about because it has some really cool features and is made by a famous car designer.
The Gordon Murray Automotive T.50 is a high-performance supercar designed by renowned automotive engineer Gordon Murray. It is celebrated for its lightweight construction and innovative engineering, making it a significant topic in discussions about modern supercars.
Mclaren F1
"Do you think that the McLaren F1 styling influenced to a large degree, super cars and hyper cars that came after it?"
The McLaren F1 is a famous supercar from the 1990s that is known for being very fast and having a unique design. Many car enthusiasts admire it for its engineering and performance.
The McLaren F1 is a legendary supercar known for its speed, innovative design, and use of lightweight materials. It was produced in the 1990s and is often regarded as one of the greatest cars of all time.
mid-engine V12
"And I think, I mean, I don't know, mid-engine V12, wedge-shaped cars were already sort of going on at that time."
A mid-engine V12 car has its engine placed in the middle of the car, which helps it handle better while driving. The V12 part means it has 12 engine cylinders, making it powerful and smooth.
A mid-engine V12 refers to a car layout where the engine is positioned between the front and rear axles, providing better weight distribution and handling. V12 indicates the engine has 12 cylinders arranged in a V configuration, known for smooth power delivery and high performance.
manual transmission
"My 15-year-old gets his license next month and wants a cheap, fun manual."
A manual transmission is a car system where the driver has to change gears by hand using a stick and a pedal. It gives the driver more control over how the car drives.
A manual transmission is a type of vehicle transmission that requires the driver to manually shift gears using a clutch pedal and gear stick. It offers more control over the vehicle's power and performance compared to automatic transmissions.
Mazda 3
"...I just got dropped off the last stick shift Mazda 3. And I just drove it from the office to my house..."
The Mazda 3 is a small car that is fun to drive and has a stylish design. It comes in different body styles, like a sedan or a hatchback, and is popular for its good performance.
The Mazda 3 is a compact car known for its sporty handling and engaging driving experience. It is available in both sedan and hatchback variants, appealing to a wide range of drivers.
stick shift
"...I just got dropped off the last stick shift Mazda 3. And I just drove it from the office to my house..."
A stick shift is a type of car transmission that you control by moving a gear stick. It gives you more control over how the car drives compared to automatic transmissions.
A stick shift refers to a manual transmission system where the driver manually shifts gears using a gear stick. This type of transmission allows for more control over the vehicle's power and speed.
Mazda Cx50
"...re real. It does have the dumb puck just like the CX50. It's not a touchscreen."
The Mazda CX-50 is a small SUV that’s designed to be fun to drive while still being useful for everyday tasks. It looks good and is great for families or anyone needing extra space.
The Mazda CX-50 is a compact SUV that emphasizes sporty handling and stylish design. It is part of Mazda's lineup aimed at providing a fun driving experience in a practical package.
Porsche 912
"...is there room in the market for Porsche to bring back the 912?"
The Porsche 912 is an older sports car that many people love. It's lighter and usually costs less than the more famous Porsche 911, making it a favorite among classic car enthusiasts.
The Porsche 912 is a classic sports car that was produced in the 1960s and early 1970s. It is known for its lightweight design and is often seen as a more affordable alternative to the iconic 911.
Porsche 911 T
"Essentially a Porsche 911 T cheaper with a four cylinder."
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that has been around for many years. It's known for being fast and fun to drive, with a unique design that many people recognize.
The Porsche 911 is a high-performance sports car known for its distinctive design and rear-engine layout. It has been in production since the early 1960s and is celebrated for its handling and engineering excellence.
Mini
"About also minis. Minis are very easy cars to wear and stick on."
The Mini is a small car that is fun to drive and easy to handle. It's known for its cute design and zippy performance, making it popular among city drivers.
The Mini is a small car known for its compact size, fun driving experience, and unique styling. Originally launched in the 1960s, it has become an icon in automotive culture and is often associated with agility and efficiency.
Jaguar Xjs
"...while before you can use it for fun. Domesticated Jaguar XJS. I like that name."
The Jaguar XJ-S is a stylish car that combines luxury with sporty performance. It’s appreciated for its classic look and comfortable ride.
The Jaguar XJ-S is a luxury sports car that was produced from 1975 to 1996, known for its sleek design and powerful engine options. It is often discussed for its classic appeal and the blend of performance and comfort.
Ferrari Roma
"The Roma has all the technology, you know, in the world that Ferrari will put in it. That is very impressive."
The Ferrari Roma is a stylish and powerful sports car from Ferrari. It has a strong engine and lots of high-tech features, making it a popular choice among car enthusiasts.
The Ferrari Roma is a luxury sports car that combines elegant design with advanced technology and performance. It features a powerful V8 engine and a range of modern tech, making it a standout in the Ferrari lineup.
Lamborghini Kuntosh
"...u. Well, if it's new MSRP, I was going to say the Kuntosh reboot. I don't like that very much."
The Lamborghini Countach is a super cool sports car that looks really different and goes super fast. It's famous for its unique style and is a dream car for many people.
The Lamborghini Countach is a legendary supercar known for its striking design and powerful performance. It has become an icon of automotive history and is frequently discussed for its influence on sports car design.
numbers matching
"...some like super special numbers matching muscle car that just feels like every other muscle car that like, you know, like it. But because it's got some number on it somewhere."
'Numbers matching' means that the important parts of a car, like the engine, have the same identification numbers as the car itself. This is important for collectors because it can make the car more valuable.
'Numbers matching' refers to a vehicle where the major components, such as the engine and transmission, have their original serial numbers that match the numbers on the vehicle's title or documentation. This is often important for collectors as it can significantly increase the car's value.
Chevrolet Corvette
"...s when they're worth 80,000. When it's like first Corvette. And I'm not saying the charitable donations not ..."
The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast sports car that many people admire for its sleek look and powerful engine. It's often talked about because it represents American car culture and has been around for many years.
The Chevrolet Corvette is an iconic American sports car known for its high performance and distinctive design. It has a rich history and is often discussed for its blend of speed, style, and value in the sports car market.
Tesla Model
"...s to fix prices, right? Like if you went with the Tesla model as many people, you know, want to defend. Tesla c..."
The Tesla Model Y is a modern electric SUV that runs on batteries instead of gas. People like it because it can go far on a single charge and has lots of cool tech inside.
The Tesla Model Y is an all-electric compact SUV that offers impressive range and performance. It has gained popularity for its technology features and eco-friendly design, making it a significant player in the electric vehicle market.
Ford Fiesta ST
"That's funny. Currently has a modified Fiesta ST track car. Instead of continuing to modify it to ..."
The Ford Fiesta ST is a small car that’s really fun to drive because it’s quick and handles well. People like it because it’s affordable and sporty.
The Ford Fiesta ST is a sporty version of the compact Fiesta, known for its lively performance and agile handling. It's often discussed for its fun driving experience and affordability in the hot hatch segment.
Honda S2000
"... track. Am I better off selling it and getting an S2000? Probably."
The Honda S2000 is a small sports car that’s really fun to drive, especially with the top down. People like it because it has a powerful engine and handles well on the road.
The Honda S2000 is a two-seat roadster known for its high-revving engine and precise handling. It has a strong enthusiast following and is often discussed for its performance and driving dynamics.
Audi Tt
"... any, they didn't do a Lamborghini version of the Audi TT, you know, but instead they did an iris per forma..."
The Audi TT RS is a sporty car that’s fast and stylish. It’s popular because it combines luxury features with a fun driving experience.
The Audi TT RS is a high-performance version of the Audi TT, known for its powerful turbocharged engine and sharp handling. It is often discussed for its blend of luxury and sportiness, appealing to driving enthusiasts.
Mazda Miata
"...ven, if you are in charge of the next generation, Miata, what would you do? Would you make the best light..."
The Mazda Miata is a small, sporty car that’s really fun to drive. It’s popular because it’s light and zippy, making it great for people who love to feel connected to the road.
The Mazda Miata is a lightweight, two-seat sports car celebrated for its agile handling and fun driving experience. It's often discussed for its affordability and has a loyal fan base among driving enthusiasts.
Jeep Wranglers
"Right. Wranglers like. Yeah."
The Jeep Wrangler is a tough-looking vehicle that can drive on rough paths and trails. People love it for its ability to go anywhere and its fun, open-air driving experience.
The Jeep Wrangler is a rugged off-road vehicle known for its distinctive design and capability to tackle challenging terrains. It has a strong following among outdoor enthusiasts and is frequently discussed for its versatility and customizability.
Toyota Gt
"...ana's primary care provider? Do you think the new Toyota GT concept will be a new LFA type halo car? No."
The Toyota GT 86 is a small sports car that’s fun to drive and easy to handle. People like it because it’s affordable and gives a real sports car feel.
The Toyota GT 86 is a lightweight sports car known for its rear-wheel-drive layout and engaging driving dynamics. It is often discussed for its affordability and appeal to driving enthusiasts looking for a pure sports car experience.
Lexus LC 500
"No. I think it will be a bump up from the LC 500. It'll be the 150 to 200,000 dollar."
The Lexus LC 500 is a fancy car that looks amazing and drives really well. It’s known for being comfortable and powerful, making it a great choice for luxury car lovers.
The Lexus LC 500 is a luxury coupe known for its striking design, powerful V8 engine, and high-quality interior. It represents Lexus's commitment to performance and luxury, making it a popular topic among car enthusiasts.
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT
"...r. So it'll occupy the space of the, um, the, the AMG GT and the SL 63 and, uh, the asked if, um, the bank..."
Mercedes-Benz SL
"...upy the space of the, um, the, the AMG GT and the SL 63 and, uh, the asked if, um, the bank wish baby ..."
The Mercedes-Benz SL is a fancy sports car that’s comfortable and stylish. People talk about it because it combines luxury with a fun driving experience.
The Mercedes-Benz SL is a luxury roadster known for its blend of performance, comfort, and advanced technology. It's often discussed for its iconic status and as a symbol of luxury in the automotive world.
Aston Martin Vanquish
"...ank wish baby somewhere between the DB 12 and the vanquish. Uh, but with a unique sort of a Japanese motor s..."
The Aston Martin Vanquish is a beautiful car that’s really fast and luxurious. People admire it for its classy look and smooth ride.
The Aston Martin Vanquish is a luxury grand tourer known for its stunning design and powerful performance. It represents the pinnacle of British automotive craftsmanship and is often discussed for its elegance and driving experience.
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