A lively discussion kicks off with the excitement surrounding the Nissan Z Nismo manual, followed by a dive into the world of robotics and their limitations. The hosts share insights from their SSC Tuatara drive, comparing horsepower per ton with other high-performance cars. They touch on the curious case of a Dodge Charger EV ticketed for loud exhaust, and wrap up with a review of the BMW R129T motorcycle, highlighting its unique features and quirks. The episode blends humor with automotive passion, making for an engaging listen.
Bikes, robots, hypercars, oh my! On this episode, Matt Farah and Zack Klapman discuss the robot Olympics; their drives in the 1,750HP SSC Tuatara; power-to-weight ratios of their own cars vs some famous ones; the manual Nissan Z Nismo; review a BMW motorcycle; and answer Patreon questions about:
Porsche wireless EV charging
Our thoughts on low riders
Best tow-rig / cool-car pair?
How many cars is too many?
Thoughts on Canadian whiskey?
Buy an EV before or after the tax credit ends?
Which Genesis we would buy
Wrap a silver car or save for a better color?
How to get a Bentley for 1/10th the price
That yacht that capsized IMMEDIATELY
Which Chevy replaces a WRX wagon?
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"Waymo is a self-driving technology company that develops autonomous vehicles and is a subsidiary of Alphabet Inc."
Autonomous vehicles are cars that can drive by themselves without needing a person to control them. They use special technology to see and understand the road.
Autonomous vehicles are cars or trucks that are capable of navigating and driving themselves without human intervention. They use a combination of sensors, cameras, and artificial intelligence to understand their environment and make driving decisions.
"Speaking of which, you and I went to dinner with with someone on business dinner the other night in Beverly Hills. I took a waymo because I planned on drunken."
Waymo is a company that creates cars that can drive themselves without a human driver. They use technology to navigate and make decisions on the road.
Waymo is a self-driving technology company that develops autonomous vehicles and is a subsidiary of Alphabet Inc. They aim to make transportation safer and more accessible through their self-driving technology.
"...you think with triple the horsepower, that it would like exit the atmosphere or something, you know, like."
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. More horsepower usually means a car can go faster and accelerate quicker.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for power, commonly used to quantify the output of engines. In automotive terms, higher horsepower typically indicates a vehicle's ability to accelerate faster and achieve higher speeds.
Mercedes is a well-known car brand that makes luxury vehicles. They are famous for their quality and performance.
Mercedes-Benz is a German automotive brand known for luxury vehicles, buses, and trucks. It is recognized for its high-performance cars and innovative technology.
"And our argument, and as you can see in the title of the video, I was basically that it's the, it's the Corvette of hypercars. It has the speed."
Hypercars are some of the fastest and most expensive cars in the world. They are built with the latest technology and are designed to provide extreme performance and speed.
A hypercar is a high-performance supercar that pushes the boundaries of speed, technology, and price. These cars often feature advanced engineering, cutting-edge materials, and exceptional performance metrics, including top speeds exceeding 200 mph.
"And our argument, and as you can see in the title of the video, I was basically that it's the, it's the Corvette of hypercars."
The Corvette is a famous sports car made by Chevrolet. It's known for being fast and stylish, and it's often seen as a symbol of American car culture.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car known for its performance, distinctive styling, and relatively affordable price compared to other high-performance vehicles. It has a long history and is often considered an American icon in the automotive world.
"And it like, it works good. The air conditioning is great."
Air conditioning in cars helps keep the inside cool and comfortable, especially on hot days. It works by blowing cool air into the car.
Air conditioning in cars is a system that cools and dehumidifies the air inside the vehicle, providing comfort to passengers. It typically uses refrigerant and a compressor to regulate the temperature.
"...it's a lot more violent than when we had the Bugatti Chiron. I mean, I rode in that and they didn't let me drive it."
The Bugatti Chiron is a super-fast luxury car that can go really fast and is very expensive. It has a powerful engine that makes it one of the fastest cars in the world.
The Bugatti Chiron is a high-performance luxury sports car known for its extreme speed and power, featuring an 8.0-liter quad-turbocharged W16 engine that produces around 1,500 horsepower.
"...because it has soft suspension. But when you start getting on the gas hard, that soft suspension, like there's a lot of squat in this car."
Soft suspension makes the ride smoother and more comfortable, but it can cause the car to feel less stable when you speed up or brake hard. This is because the car's body moves more than it would with a stiffer suspension.
Soft suspension refers to a suspension system that is designed to absorb bumps and provide a comfortable ride, often at the expense of handling and responsiveness. It allows for more body movement during acceleration and braking, which can lead to a feeling of instability when pushing the car hard.
"...that soft suspension, like there's a lot of squat in this car. Yeah."
Squat happens when a car accelerates and the back of the car dips down while the front lifts up. This can change how the car feels and handles when you speed up.
Squat refers to the rearward weight transfer that occurs in a vehicle during acceleration, causing the back of the car to lower and the front to rise. This can affect traction and handling, especially in high-performance driving situations.
"...under breaking there's a bit too much dive. Yeah."
Dive happens when a car brakes hard, making the front dip down and the back lift up. This can make it feel less stable and change how the car steers.
Dive is the forward weight transfer that occurs during hard braking, causing the front of the car to lower and the rear to rise. This can affect steering response and stability, particularly in performance driving.
"So your, my Vespa 300 is 105 horsepower per ton, with you riding it, not with me riding it."
The Vespa 300 is a type of scooter that is easy to ride and great for getting around town. It has a small engine that helps it go fast enough for city driving.
The Vespa 300 is a popular scooter known for its stylish design and efficient performance. It features a 300cc engine, making it suitable for urban commuting and short trips.
"Next up is your RAV4 Prime, 146 horsepower per ton."
The RAV4 Prime is a version of the Toyota RAV4 that can run on electricity as well as gasoline. It's designed to be more environmentally friendly while still being a practical SUV.
The Toyota RAV4 Prime is a plug-in hybrid SUV that combines electric and gasoline power for improved efficiency and performance. It offers a balance of utility and eco-friendliness.
The NSX is a sports car made by Acura, famous for being fast and having a unique design that helps it perform well on the road.
The Acura NSX is a high-performance sports car known for its innovative design and engineering, particularly its use of a mid-engine layout and lightweight materials.
"It's split between a Hellcat Red Eye and a 911 Turbo S, which is, that's pretty high."
The Dodge Challenger Hellcat Redeye is a very powerful sports car that has a big engine, making it one of the fastest cars on the road.
The Dodge Challenger Hellcat Redeye is a high-performance variant of the Challenger, known for its powerful supercharged V8 engine that produces over 800 horsepower.
"It's split between a Hellcat Red Eye and a 911 Turbo S, which is, that's pretty high."
The Porsche 911 Turbo S is a fast sports car known for its great performance and sleek design, making it very popular among car enthusiasts.
The Porsche 911 Turbo S is a high-performance version of the iconic 911 sports car, featuring a turbocharged flat-six engine that delivers exceptional speed and handling.
Car
Mazda 787B
"Holy moly. The highest one, the highest one on the list, the Mazda 787B."
The Mazda 787B is a famous race car that won a big race called the 24 Hours of Le Mans. It has a special type of engine that is different from most cars.
The Mazda 787B is a legendary race car known for its unique rotary engine and its victory at the 1991 24 Hours of Le Mans, making it the first and only rotary engine car to win the race.
"375 is an eventador. 379 is the 1987 Yellowbird."
The Lamborghini Aventador is a very fast and stylish sports car. It has a powerful engine that helps it go really fast, and many people love its unique look.
The Lamborghini Aventador is a high-performance supercar known for its striking design and powerful V12 engine. It offers exceptional speed and handling, making it a favorite among car enthusiasts.
The Ferrari 328 GTB is a sports car made by Ferrari from 1985 to 1989. It's famous for its stylish look and strong engine, and it's a favorite among car fans.
The Ferrari 328 GTB is a sports car produced by Ferrari from 1985 to 1989. It is known for its sleek design and powerful V8 engine, making it a classic among car enthusiasts.
"328 GTB is better than the NSX. Pretty good, huh?"
The Honda NSX is a sports car from Japan that started selling in the early 1990s. It's known for being fast and well-built, often compared to more expensive European cars.
The Honda NSX is a Japanese sports car that was first introduced in 1990. It is known for its innovative design, performance, and reliability, often compared to European supercars.
"Yeah, because the fucking Raptor pegged at 99 miles an hour and a Prius can go like 125"
Miles per hour is a way to measure speed, telling you how many miles a car can go in one hour.
Miles per hour (mph) is a unit of speed commonly used in the United States to measure how fast a vehicle is traveling. It indicates the number of miles covered in one hour.
"...we're going to take it to BBI. And we're going to do a package that will not void the warranty."
BBI is a company that modifies and improves Porsche cars to make them faster and better while keeping them reliable.
BBI Autosport is a well-known performance tuning company specializing in Porsche vehicles. They offer a range of modifications and upgrades to enhance performance while maintaining reliability.
"We have to modify the car before SEMA. The car has to get to SEMA."
SEMA is a big car show in Las Vegas where companies show off new car parts and custom cars. It's important for people in the car industry to meet and share ideas.
SEMA stands for the Specialty Equipment Market Association, which hosts an annual trade show in Las Vegas showcasing aftermarket automotive products and custom vehicles. It's a key event for car enthusiasts and industry professionals to network and display innovations.
"...My Taycan wasn't talking to me. Tell me it was like, I'm sorry."
The Porsche Taycan is a high-end electric car that is known for being fast and luxurious. It has a big battery that helps it go a long distance on a single charge, and it can accelerate quickly, just like a sports car.
The Porsche Taycan is an all-electric luxury sports sedan that combines performance with advanced technology. It features a high-capacity battery and offers impressive acceleration and handling characteristics, making it a standout in the electric vehicle market.
"...I drove that guy's Mustang that had expired Reg and I got the ticket. And I had, so we were in line in court..."
The Mustang is a popular sports car made by Ford. It's known for being fast and stylish, and many people love to drive it.
The Ford Mustang is a classic American muscle car known for its performance and iconic design. It has been in production since 1964 and has undergone several generations of updates and changes.
"So, yeah, I think this is, you know, Borla could make a campaign for these and be like, make yours."
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what they should can and really won't be very good at be doing. We recap our SSC Tawattara drive and talk about some nerdy data numbers and horsepower per ton and how me and Zach's cars compared to some of the best cars in the world. We talk about the Dodge Charger EV that was ticketed for loud exhaust. And from the end of the show, we pull it around with a little a little bit. We did on our pro driver Patreon show.
Where I review the BMW R129T motorcycle. So let's get to all of that today on the smoking tire podcast.
Hi, everybody. Welcome to the program. I hope you're all well today. It's a nice day in LA. It's like finally like sub death hot here. And it's quite good. It's quite good. September. September is a good month.
It's it's when like the tourists go home, but it's still like properly good summer weather for a long time here. And the children are in school again. Right. That's a little less traffic on the road. We do you want to go to six flags? Did you enjoy six flags last time you went? Okay. Well, yeah. So it's we need to the month of September is when you go to six flags on a weekday.
All the kids are in school. You fucking hit it. 20 MGs straight to X to fucking dive it. Right. We could film a car at like Hughes. And then go to yeah.
They always and they always get me on that. If you go twice, just twice in one year, you can get the season pass. I only ever go once.
But yeah, those 30 coaster days. Those are good fucking days, man.
30 coaster. Yeah. And you can hit like 30 roller coasters in a day. Yeah. We did all of them so many times. Yeah. It was like, all right.
We did a tatsu like five times in a row. Sick. That tatsu is really one of the best roller coasters I've ever been on. That's the one that rotates your whole thing, right?
That's X two X two is the one with the sky dive and the, yeah, the central the five axis tatsu is the one that has the 300 foot inverted dive. Okay.
We know what I mean. That shit is that's wild. I think that's actually wilder than. I don't think they make X two.
As gnarly as they could. Oh, sure. You know what I mean? I think like I bet you somewhere. There's the fucking like the hard someone's like, let me just pull up the hard
court tune for X two so that like some pro can ride it in like sicko mode. Yeah. Yeah. I bet that coaster has a sicko mode. I bet that the designers have a version like in
CAD or whatever software. Solid works. That's like it would make everyone vomit. Yeah. But this is physically possible. Sure. That's yeah. Exactly. Like that's what they say about
Robo racing, right? Like the limits of the race car or the driver? You know, mean, meanwhile, the Robo race cars crash at like 40 miles an hour.
About the sensors and computing power. Yeah. Um, did you watch any of the robot Olympics like footage? Like they held the hell in China? Oh,
and everyone was sharing these videos like, yeah, a few like a week ago, then everyone's like, oh, ha, ha, we don't have to worry about
anything because like robots are running into a wall and like they can't jump or whatever. Uh, and I'm just sitting there going, I wonder if this is the
distraction from the actual Chinese robots that are made that can, you know, 100% carry an AK 47. I mean, every everyone I know who has worked in
robots. Like for real real robots is like humanoid looking robots are so fucking dumb. Like a robot is meant to do a task. And like a human is
meant to do like all tasks. And like nobody fuck like everyone who wants a robot wants it to do like a couple of things over and over and over.
And like that's why good robots don't look like humans. They look like fucking arms on a thing or, you know,
the trajectory of like Boston dynamic is if you can make a machine that has as many capabilities, roughly as a human does,
then you can have one design that can do all these different different tasks. I guess, but I think I think I don't know. It seems, it seems like two big of a mountain with two little of a reward to make a universal robot versus just designing robots for tasks that aren't as pretty.
I don't know, maybe I'm beginning negative Nancy about it. I think they're going to have a lot of I have a feeling that the desire for a humanoid robot stems almost 100% from the fact that people and I get this feeling. You probably get it too. Do you have a housekeeper once in a while? Do you like being home when they're there working? Nobody does, right? That's what the humanoid robot is for a humanoid robot is to clean your house so you don't feel awkward being in the house with a
person that's leaning to what? That's what that's basically what an autonomous car is. An autonomous car is basically I don't want to be in this taxi with the person driving it. That's the only fucking reason for it. There's no other good reason. This is just that applied to housekeeping. Yeah, I don't, I mean sometimes I leave and sometimes I just go in the office or whatever. I mean, she's very, very nice and our dog loves her. Of course, I don't care that much. Not everyone's saying I don't need Boston dynamics to keep going forward and get
to everyone's job just because I don't want to talk to a housekeeper because I'm an awkward person. I don't think they're straight up going to ever say that. I don't know if anyone's going to admit that shit out loud, but I think that's really what motivates them is that they don't want to be in this sort of awkwardness of being at home with service. I think I company. I don't think it's why that company specifically exists, but I think that's why the desire generally among people for a humanoid type robot is like a housekeeper and slave.
You don't have to pay and it doesn't have to be awkward to be around. I think it's more than not having to pay version or a story. Yeah, you're not having to talk to them or some fine. Maybe it's a side bonus, but like nobody likes being like just being doing living their life, you know, when like there's people like cleaning and shit around them. It's awkward. It's weird because you feel like you're in the way. Yeah. And or you have to like constantly make conversation and you're trying to like, you know, you're just like in your house.
Like staring at the wall. I'm not saying it's like to be a dick. No, I know you're not like, but that's like that. That's why people like leave the house. Like you just don't want to be involved. I think they're I think the goal is like, Oh, you can. The trick is they're saying, Oh, you Matt or me or someone else can have a helper robot that will get your medicine and all these other things. And it's like it's probably going to eviscerate the workforce. It would it would cost me less and it would be more effective to just pay a person for a long time.
For such a long time. I think they said the cheapest robot that's going to go on sale from China is like six to eight thousand dollars. I can happily pay this person. I hire for like years and years and years. Yeah, to come to our house. Yeah, for that money. Yeah, you'd rather do that. Yeah, something that is going to be obsolete in two years. And then we're like, sorry, we don't have the computing power in here for you to update. Yeah, buy version two.
Speaking of which, you and I went to dinner with with someone on business dinner the other night in Beverly Hills. I took a waymo because I planned on drunken.
And and also you were going to be designated driver on the way home. So I was like, I'm going to take one one way. And I'm starting to see this waymo. And I mean, in theory, all waymos should drive exactly the same. Right.
This one drove a little more aggressively. And you told me the other day that you saw one make a big U turn across three lanes of traffic, which is, which is a thing I'd never seen before.
But this one made some like real interesting navigational choices. You know, as I told you at dinner, there's two exits from my neighborhood.
One that was the direction we're going. What was the opposite direction we're going. And so far, I've taken multiple waymos and they all they only take one of the two exits, no matter which direction they're going, they won't take the other one.
They are for all intents and purposes identical. There's no there's nothing legal or anything about why you would not take the one that's the direction you're going and instead drive out of the way for three blocks to turn around and come back makes no sense.
So what programming is deep deep in its brain. So and then it's made some other like strange really strange lane position choices.
Like it would move, you know, to one lane to travel a block to move back to the other lane. And I thought that was really odd compared to the last one. So yeah, maybe it's actually learning from LA drivers. People do that all the time. Yeah.
Someone downloaded a Tesla Model 3 map to the Jaguar. Yeah, exactly.
I feel kind of bad because I almost do you think the pro drivers will be mad if I cut the BMW motorcycle bit out of the pro show and like drop it into the end of this show.
I don't think you just leave it in that show and then put it in this show.
I don't mean cut it out, remove it. I mean copy it from that show and drop it in this show.
I hope they wouldn't. I felt bad. We did. We did the pro show which if you're a pro driver on the patron and I didn't realize it was a pro show.
There's almost no difference to the structure of one show versus another. And I did this entire 20 minutes on this motorcycle.
And only to realize it was like a pay walled show and that's sort of not what press vehicles are for.
And so I think it would be most fair to BMW who lent me the motorcycle and to like the other the rest of the audience that want to hear about the motorcycle.
It would be the most fair if I take that from the pro show and put it at the end of this show.
And I hope the pro drivers won't feel mad about that. I think they'll understand.
And then that way you keep getting motorcycles.
Yeah.
Yeah. The the quid pro quo of the press vehicle is not that you have to say nice things.
And in fact, I have quite a few criticisms on this motorcycle. It's it's that you actually deliver the content to your audience.
Yeah.
But a couple of fun things are happening. One are our SSC Tautara video is up right now as well as the story on road and track.
I wrote 2000 words on actually I wrote like 2700 words and Mike Duff did I was not posting on road and track yet.
I thought he was going to post it. They said.
Well, it'll be up like within hours. They said they said Thursday morning.
So the video is certainly up right now. The writing writing will be up within hours.
And did we talk much about the car? We're waiting for the video.
I don't know if we actually talked much about the car.
Well, just in case, just in case, let's let's refresh.
I'm sure a fan who's on the live stream will remember exactly what timestamp of what episode we talked about it.
If so, get in the comments.
But just as a refresher, this is a 1700 and 50 horsepower car that weighs less than my spider.
It has triple horsepower of my spider.
Jesus.
Triple.
Isn't that crazy?
Like, on the one hand, that's a crazy thing to think about.
And this car is, you know, fucking pants shittingly fast.
But at the same time, you think with triple the horsepower,
that it would like exit the atmosphere or something, you know, like.
Triple wasn't right.
Yeah, at a certain point.
It probably would.
Like the Mercedes.
Yeah, the group C car.
This thing has done 295 miles an hour.
We not by us, but it did it.
And it's, it's an insane thing and it is a very real car.
And our argument, and as you can see in the title of the video,
I was basically that it's the, it's the Corvette of hypercars.
It has the speed.
It has the fighter jet looks.
It has a roomy interior and a trunk.
And it like, it works good.
The air conditioning is great.
But it's, it's, it's, it's executionally.
Just like a, you know, an eight out of 10 compared to a Konex egg or a Pagani.
It's also a lot cheaper.
It's the value proposition of this group.
It's fully American.
And, but it, but it's insane.
Zach, your thoughts.
Someone said we did talk about it.
Oh, we did.
But it's a good refresher.
So we'll keep it tight.
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It's definitely one of the most memorable driving experiences I've had.
And it's a lot more violent than when we had the Bugatti Sherone.
I mean, I wrote in that and they didn't let me drive it.
But the shifting, the handling, all this stuff was there's more poise.
It was smoothed out.
Yeah, Bugatti's are tuned for smoothness.
Yeah.
And it just this thing, which actually had a very smooth ride because it has soft suspension.
But when you start getting on the gas hard, that soft suspension, like there's a lot of squat in this car.
Yeah.
And then under breaking there's a bit too much dive.
Yeah.
That makes the quick steering a little bit unnerving.
See roof rodeo.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, this had a lot of heave to it.
But the shifts are violent.
I mean, they're loud and it shakes the car.
But not in a way that like upsets the car.
Yeah, I mean, it kicks into like wheel spin almost.
Yeah.
And there's the most, the actuation of the shifter.
I mean, if you shot, you know, a recoil rifle or a semi-automatic pistol that has like,
not like a glock, like a big fucking metal, you know, like a Beretta 92 or a desert eagle,
where you shoot and it goes cucklack, you know.
It does a cucklack along with an actual shotgun blast sound.
Technically, the Beretta 92 has an open slide.
It's much lighter than most guns.
It has a lot less recoil.
Well, you're thinking of the desert eagle 950, which, yeah, I shot one of the guys.
A desi.
He was shooting it and I was watching him and he goes,
you want to shoot it?
That's what he sounded like.
And I did, I tried to and it jammed and he goes,
it does that.
And then he racked it and I shot it once and I was like,
that's enough.
I don't need to.
When we first started going,
dude.
I shot with a couple of times in Philly and they, you know,
they would, I think the range we went to in Bucks County,
where we used to go shoot guns like 30 minutes outside of Philly.
I think it was like five bucks around to shoot the desert eagle 50.
And no, you know, no one ever needed to shoot more than like five or six rounds.
Like you get it, you know.
And so you pay your, you give me 20 and you give you four shells and go,
here you go.
And it's like, you know, fucking somebody hold me kind of thing.
You know, they're big.
The baby eagle is really nice.
You ever shoot one of those?
It's a 40, it's a miniature, it's not like miniature,
but it's like a normal sized desert eagle that's a 40 caliber.
Oh.
And it's a beautifully made thing and they shoot really good.
I mean, they're, they're cool looking.
Yeah.
When they landed on movie screens, all of our brains were like,
oh, that's the gun for the back guy or, you know, whatever.
When you've got Vinny Jones.
I mean, fucking what, what gun company doesn't want
Guy Richie character Vinny Jones pitching for them?
My gun says that the eagle point five of that side of mine.
That is shrinking.
That's such an amazing speech.
That scene is, that's like the Glen Gary Glen Ross of gangster film scenes.
He's fucking, he, he could have gotten, he should have nominated for an Oscar for that.
I wonder if he, well, I say that without knowing if he was.
I don't think Vinny Jones ever known.
I was like a second movie.
It was probably like, we can't nominate him yet.
But anyway, the, the shifting of this car is, like you said, I mean,
there is a reverberation, but it's like a single clack that just goes through the whole car and it goes, and it's loud.
It's banged.
Yeah.
And part of that's the backfire, which is quite visible.
Yeah, we did get a couple good fire shots.
It shoots big fire.
Yeah.
And then the daytime fire, you don't even need night.
It's hard to see that one.
That was 1 p.m. fire.
Really bright.
Yeah.
It is an exciting thing.
That was nuts.
So the video's up on the, on the YouTube's and it's also going to be on road and track.
If you prefer writing, check out both.
Shout out to ultra shoes, by the way.
Senta sent me and Zach some, what do they call these type of shoe?
It's like a date, not day hiking, but it's like a hiking through hiking.
Yeah.
They're like halfway between a hiking boot and a sneaker.
Yeah.
Soft hiking boot or a tall sneaker.
Pretty cool.
Yeah.
My pair is pretty comfortable.
You like them?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I haven't been there than boots boots.
I haven't hiked in them yet.
I warm like around, but I haven't gone on a hike.
I'm going to try it and I'll report back.
Nice.
Thanks for sending us the shoes.
Yeah.
They fit my wide foot.
You are wide foot.
Yeah.
That's why I bought a pair of ultra is four years ago, because it was the only thing that fit my foot.
It's one width, but it's good for my wide feet.
It's nice.
I have a fan named Max who likes doing math.
And I like when fans send math.
I haven't fully fact checked the math.
What grade is Max in?
I don't know.
I do not know.
But boy are there many spreadsheets.
Basically, Max's math enthusiasm started with my demand motor.
He saw the dyno video and he went, wow, the power to weight ratio of that is pretty exceptional.
And so he did a thing where he compared it to some other cars.
Cool.
And then, so that's pretty fun.
And I'll go to that.
And then he made, and then I go, oh, that's pretty fun.
Maybe we can talk about that on the show.
Can you like just like throw some other random cars on the list for comparison?
So we can see like what the relative is.
And so he actually put your cars and all of my cars on a chart.
So we can see how they completely stack up.
So if we, the slowest vehicle in our fleet or the worst, it's a horsepower per ton
with a standard sized driver, meaning driver of fixed weight.
And that weight isn't, I think that weights 150.
It's not me.
So your, my Vespa 300 is 105 horsepower per ton, with you riding it, not with me riding it.
Okay.
Next up is your RAV4 Prime, 146 horsepower per ton.
The Myers-Manks radio is 170 horsepower per ton.
The Tykon Cross Terizmo is 176.
My NSX, which is an N82, is 195.
The E46 is 206.
The Kuntosh is 270.
And the Porsche is 370 horsepower per ton.
Now, that's a lot for the Porsche.
And the comparison, where's the compare over here?
The original chart, which has the comparison.
So that puts it in a terms of horsepower per ton.
It's split, five horse, five on either side.
It's split between a Hellcat Red Eye and a 911 Turbo S, which is, that's pretty high.
Do you know what the SSC Tourtare is for ton?
Why don't you use quick math?
That's just 3,000 pounds.
Right, 3,100.
So I said 0.66.
Yeah, yeah.
1,155 horsepower per ton.
Holy moly.
The highest one, the highest one on the list, the Mazda 787B,
which is the, the Roto Rima Makar, is, was 751 horsepower per ton.
But you, what did you say, 1,000?
1,150?
That's fucking nuts.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Other notables on the list?
I mean, 370.
I mean, is that between a Turbo S and a Hellcat Red Eye?
Wow.
375 is an eventador.
379 is the 1987 Yellowbird.
You know what this tells me?
That's how fast that car was.
We should drag race your car against a lot more cars because it's,
your horsepower per ton is so similar to all of these legendary super cars.
It is the, the, the new SCR.
I don't think that's right.
He rode SCR, but I don't think that, oh, no, that said, that is right.
The new SCR is 381.
0.6, current 0.6, 385.
And so yeah, that's pretty fun, right?
Yeah.
Thank you, Max.
What else is good, Max?
964 Carrera, 179.
That's like the same as my TyCon.
So I should race someone's 964 for pink slips.
Hell yeah.
Sell it to Singer.
Bro, Ferrari 328 GTB, 189.
That's pretty good.
328 GTB is better than the NSX.
Pretty good, huh?
Thank you, Max.
Yeah, fun, math.
I wonder what, like a Pacifica is, you know, a Pacifica.
Is that on there?
I wonder if he made it.
He put a couple like fully random things on the list.
I don't see a Camry V6.
2018 to 24 is a, is 179.
Oh, so it's really close to the Ferrari.
F150 Raptor 162.
Mazda Miata ND3 158.
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You have a camera.
You should race a Raptor from money in a straight line.
Well, do you remember when I raced a Prius for a car show?
No, we were doing one of the airstrip events and we did a bit where I was in the Raptor on the gravel.
Oh yeah.
So the runway and I raced a Prius on the runway and I almost lost.
Yeah, it was really close.
Yeah, because the fucking Raptor pegged at 99 miles an hour and a Prius can go like 125
and we had a runway.
Yeah.
So like I got out ahead even on the dirt and the Prius was fucking creeping.
That was a really good race.
That's on the internet somewhere.
Yeah, but that's a fun game.
I like that one.
I don't have any other really weird ones.
I have a bunch of older sports cars.
Alpine A110 to 12 E92 BMW 335 190 Roles Spectre 192.
That's misleading.
That thing feels fast because that's instant torque.
That's fun.
But it's funny that I'm right behind the 911 Turbo S because we have actually gotten the official confirmation.
We're going to be giving away a 911 Turbo S.
Yeah.
We get to mod it too, which is pretty fucking fun.
The brand new Turbo S.
And if we modify it, it will smoke your car in a straight line.
Maybe from a roll of even.
The power to weight does not tell the entire story.
PDK and turbocharged power train.
I think we should find out.
That's what I'm doing.
We could race it.
But anyway, we are going to give away a brand new Turbo S will absolutely take my car in a straight line.
For sure.
Power to weight be damned.
If you did it like a single in gear pull and might be close.
But we're going to put some wheels on it.
We're going to put some fucking nice herries.
We're going to take it to BBI.
And we're going to do a package that will not void the warranty.
But we'll accentuate how delicious a turbo S is.
And then we may do some aesthetic mods because you have to make it look cool and thumbnails.
Right.
Gotta look special.
Those are the things.
But it's a, I've seen photos of the car.
It's a lovely specification.
It is a specific car.
It's not a, and we, we were going to have it for like a month.
And we have to do the, do all the things.
But, but we're starting with a brand new car.
And we already have partners in place that are down to fucking play around.
So, uh, we will have details on how you can enter in the next.
I'm not sure the exact start date.
But we learned from last time and we're going to have the entire build done before we announced the first thing.
So there's no weird pressure.
Yes.
We've learned that lesson.
Yeah.
Um, there is some pressure.
We have to modify the car before SEMA.
The car has to get to SEMA.
Okay.
So, and like, but the stuff that's going on is easy, straightforward.
And it's going on a brand new car.
So that hopefully shouldn't be a problem.
But we get to know it.
We also have to make some videos with it.
Do things.
And then, like, then get it to auction.
And then, and then put it on a container to rush.
Oh, what?
What?
SEMA auction?
It's not going to auction.
No, I was doing, I was, uh, the, you know, the pressure of get the thing.
Oh, yeah.
It's always like gas monkey garage.
Yeah.
We got a customer's coming on Thursday at four days.
What happened?
He can't possibly wait.
My Tykon wasn't talking to me.
Tell me it was like, I'm sorry.
It's got to be tomorrow.
I was like, okay.
What else am I going to do?
That's why there's no TV show about this.
What should be the ship?
There should be God damn it.
There should be.
They have, you know what they have in this course dealership?
It is one of those 911 GT3R, like, red sport things.
The owner of the dealership got one of them.
It's just sitting in the show.
Cool.
But it's not, uh, it's, it was raced.
Like he's, it's covered in grime.
He raised it.
Okay.
He's doing something with it.
Whatever he's doing, it's dirty.
Uh, that shit is dope.
Um, the,
Did you see the fucking, the guy who got ticketed in the charger?
Evie for loud exhaust?
Yes, I did.
Pretty funny.
Funny.
And the cop was like, I'm not going to argue with you.
Which is, you know, such a police officer response.
Uh, this, this prop, this, uh, you even think this will get to court?
Um, yeah.
I bet it will.
If the person driving this car is listening to this show, please call off the record.
I think they'd probably represent you for free.
I mean, but the only way, you know, you can't do a fix it ticket.
You can't just bring it into, you know, whatever offices and say, I fix the thing
because nothing's changed.
Yeah.
And that person's not going to deal with this argument.
They're going to go, that's not my problem.
They're going to hand you off the court.
And then the judge is going to throw it out in four seconds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now I was going to say the prosecutor would decline to even prosecute.
If you put the, if I was a prosecutor and somebody put this, I'd be like,
I'm not, I'm not going in front of a judge.
Are there prosecutors for this?
Isn't it, you know, like traffic stuff.
Sometimes you go up, it's just the judge hears it.
Right?
There's, no, there's just prosecutor also.
Yeah.
There is a prosecutor.
They're, they're present.
But okay.
No, I mean, I suppose like there's, I have definitely been in courts.
And I suppose every state is slightly different.
But I have personally been to courts and negotiated with a prosecutor to before,
before a trial.
When Tom Morningstar and I did our reverse bull run road trip to fight our tickets,
we did that in two different states, where we had an opportunity where the prosecutor
had like office hours, basically, before court.
And you could just go and be like, hi, here's what I'm charged with.
You know, and they'll be like, all right, well, you know, we'll drop it down
to a no seat belt and you pay 200 bucks, no points.
And I'm like, done so.
Got it.
Yeah.
And when I fought the ticket, not fought, but I drove that guy's Mustang that
had expired Reg and I got the ticket.
And I had, so we were in line in court and it was like an assembly line.
Everyone just stood in front of a table, told the judge what was up.
And when I told the judge, he was like, this is not your fault.
It's like, let's get it.
It's exonerated or whatever.
I mean, it's got to be state by state.
Different, slightly different procedural stuff.
Now, what if this person could have a big speaker on it?
Which would be the dumbest thing in the world.
Yeah, it would be hilarious.
What an opportunity for like bazooka to take off and your amps or something like that.
I don't know.
I think also, I think sometimes those tickets may have been like misdemeanor tickets.
They may have, those may have been like the big ins.
Yours.
Yeah.
I don't remember like, I don't remember what, what trial was for what?
Right.
But like those may have been like misdemeanor's versus like, you know, little bullshit.
You guys were in more trouble, I think.
Yes, we were.
So, yeah, I think this is, you know, Borla could make a campaign for these and be like, make
yours.
Evie, go to 11.
Didn't Magnaflow do a mocky that had a fake exhaust on it?
I think they did.
And I would hate to crap on Magnaflow because they made a nice exhaust for my manks.
But I think I remember seeing that and going, yeah, no, right?
Borla active performance sound for mocky.
So, yeah, I don't know.
But if this is just a bone stock charger that just makes a sound.
I mean, that would be interesting.
It's an interesting case either.
Have you heard someone rip one of these yet?
No.
It sounds really funny.
Yeah.
It sounds really loud.
Louder than it should be.
Okay.
It sounds like a speaker playing a fake, a fake, it sounds awfully similar to the Ionic 5N.
Everybody is like, oh, I like the idea of the Ionic 5N, but the actual sound sucks.
This sounds almost exactly.
Why didn't they make it sound like all the V8 cars they've made in the past?
I don't know.
This is like the Porsche.
They have the archives.
Pulled from the archives.
That's a hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
I don't know.
If you're Porsche and if you're Dodge, you should be doing that.
We don't need the digital, whatever the fuck this is.
It sounds so weird.
I heard one.
I was standing outside here, like getting the mail the other day and someone went, you know,
people like hit it here.
And this guy was like, what?
Because even the Ionic 5N doesn't sound like that on the outside.
Right.
It's on the, like, to hear it on the outside, I just was like, oh boy, this is the thing.
Like, oh, it's not good.
It's not great.
$40,000 on the hood.
I would.
You were eating the charger today.
I'd love to go fight that in court though.
I just wanted to, I think, hopefully this is in one of those precincts where, like, broadcast
the court, you know, the trial live.
So you can just watch.
It would be the most watched thing since OJ.
It would just be a bunch of carnards curious what happens with this situation.
Yeah.
Your honor.
It's electric.
What?
Dismissed.
That's so funny.
Good for him.
Good for him.
It looks like he pulled over in a gas station.
If that's the actual photo of this.
Yeah.
Which is a funny place to pull over.
Is this like a real click of the situation?
Oh, I think it is.
This is really funny.
Can you play this audio on this?
You've been warned for your mufflers in the past.
That was when I had a gas car.
Here it.
He just did a rev.
It sounded just.
Yeah, but it sounds pretty quiet.
I think it's pretty funny.
Are you aware electric cars don't have mufflers?
Oh, play devices.
Oh, my God.
Some cops are so stupid.
You're getting a couple citations.
That was when I had a gas car.
That's funny, man.
I mean, if you did, if you did like a launch and went like a hundred miles an hour,
that's one thing.
And he's like, are you aware electric?
I love when the past, I mean, the pastor's making sense,
but also the driver's like, shut up, bro.
That is so funny.
I think that is the kind of, I think he's,
I think he's basically getting a speeding ticket without evidence.
I think you're right.
Is what's happening here.
Yeah.
I didn't, I couldn't see you, but I you just flew by.
I got nothing, but I'm giving you this.
There's an electric car.
Like, what else you get it given for?
He's, and I think the cop probably like,
I mean, he doesn't have anything.
He's not, he's probably not being stupid.
He's probably thinks he's cutting the guy a break of some kind,
but he also doesn't have anything on speeding.
That's probably my guess.
I think the cop officer thinks he's being smart
and he's like, I'm going to give this guy a ticket in a way that I think will work,
because like you said, I don't have him for speeding.
Yeah.
But if he's being a nuisance, he's ripping around.
He's basically want to stop that behavior.
Yeah.
But it's funny that he used the excuse that is almost physically impossible.
Yeah.
You're mufflers, too.
Oh, wrong.
Because you could use other stuff.
You could use exhibition speed.
You could use unsafe start.
There's like a variety of things you could use to go.
I saw you do this thing that wasn't speeding.
That's kind of funny, though.
Very funny.
So he really goes along with using the word muffler.
Exactly.
That's a problem.
Right.
Because public nuisance and noise, you know, there's got to be something in the statutes
that's basically the equivalent of having a crazy loud stereo.
That's where you get it.
Maybe that's probably the nuisance thing.
Yeah.
Didn't he say that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's probably for, yeah, I would just fucking fight the ball.
I can't wait to hear what happens when this goes in like two months.
Yeah.
I call four seconds in front of a judge.
Yeah.
It's gone.
It's getting thrown out.
Let's hear from the people.
You said we had a lot, a lot from them.
So let's, let's make sure they are heard.
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After I have a sip of my water.
Bad gardener says a couple months ago I posted a picture of a,
oh yeah, a ram viper truck towing a viper.
My dad had the same setup for his first track car.
Cool.
What are the best car combos that make each car cooler than they would be alone?
I mean, they don't have to be from the same OEM.
Towing your manks to pebble with a Bentley.
That helps.
I mean, if you toe, if you're toeing with a Lamborghini LM002,
toeing your, your kuntosh, that would be a game over.
Or if you use the same truck to toe like a strato or something.
Sure.
That'd be cool.
Yeah.
You're, you know, your Ford race car product with some type of lightning.
Yeah.
It was cooler back in the day when it was like the O3 lightning towing a cobra.
Ford doesn't have the really equivalent of that today.
Telling the Raptors funny because they squat so much.
They're not great toe vehicles.
And I've done it.
They're fine.
There's a, there's a colon in my neighborhood with a toe hitch on it.
With a, with a toe ball in the toe hitch.
And I would like to say that the person was being a fucking super pimp
and like toeing their boat or something with the colon in.
But I once saw it parked to where it lives.
And no, they own a funeral home.
So they have multiple white colonins.
Why a white sprinter.
And, and they toe a fucking glass like a casket trailer.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
It's like a hers without the engine.
It's like a hurt.
Yeah.
Like a trailer.
It's like a heart.
Display trailer that they show in display.
Oh, I think the car's not showing display.
Interesting.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They should toe a toe an air stream or something.
It'd be cool.
You could.
I think that I, I don't know what the toe rating is of a colon.
But it's probably good amount.
Did you know the toe rating of that Bentley is 7,000 pounds.
I'm writing the story about that.
It was only like 3140.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Randy says, if you won the power ball, how many cars would you buy?
Would you pull a Leno or would you curate a perfect 510 or 20 car garage?
I would get into dozens for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It could, it could get out of hand.
Yeah.
It's, I would, I would end up just.
I just, I don't have that many places to drive.
But I would, I could still end up buying an enormous amount of cars.
Fadi sent me one of those high octane property listings yesterday.
And it was, it was like a ranch house setup.
It, it was stocked with like 20 side by sides and eight sand cars.
Yeah.
It was like, do you and your boys want to have a place and just have your own rental fleet of off-road shit?
It's ready to go.
Like turnkey.
And it had a dirt track in the back.
Yeah, turnkey.
Exactly.
I would have dozens of cars, but maybe 20 of them would just be those things.
Yeah.
I think, I think what I'd like to do, if I was really rolling like that, is I would have properties around the country, places that I like to visit.
Yeah.
And I would keep locations, specific cars for, for those things.
That's kind of, I think, what I would do.
And if I'm at that level, I'm, I'm going to have my own, I'm going to have a couple people that are dealing with the cars
and they're also going to be my like, transportors and they could run cars from one house to another, things like that.
But like, I don't know if I could ever get up to like a hundred.
It just, it would get, I don't have time for that shit.
Because then you're not driving.
Then you're collecting them because you like seeing them.
Yeah.
And you just, when the numbers don't matter, it's like the matchbox cars.
You know, you just go, oh, this gave me a little bit of joy when I saw it.
I purchased it.
You know, what is it?
Real 250 GTO, I'll take six of them, you know.
Billy Eideling, that's very good.
Do I still shoot film?
Not really, I mean, the, you know what's tough about film for me is I graduated up to very large format.
What you might even call ultra large format, where I was shooting eight by ten in college.
And when you were shooting eight by ten, the grain was so fine that it was essentially non-existent.
You know, you could make an enormous print and you're only enlarging the thing four times compared with 35 millimeter,
where you're maybe enlarging it a thousand times to make the same size print or a couple, a couple hundred times at least.
And so when I graduated from college and sold my medium format camera and sold, I never owned a large format camera.
I was using my colleges.
And I started shooting a little film on 35.
It didn't really, I didn't like how it looked.
It was really grainy and not very vivid compared to what I was able to get out of the large format camera.
And I got kind of like disillusioned by it.
I was then like, oh, this doesn't really.
You peek too early.
I just, yeah, it doesn't look like I really want it to look.
So I kind of don't bother.
Having said that, like, I really like the idea of, you know, shooting, shooting and then not seeing the photos for a little while.
Like, that's really nice.
And I like just, it's dude that he talked about a Pentax K 1000.
That's the, that's the 35 millimeter camera I have.
And it's a fucking tank.
I mean, mine is from the late 70s or early 80s.
I don't really know, but, but, um, dude, you can fucking hook that thing anywhere.
And when you, when you fucking wind it and you pull, it's that same like the shifter in the toitara.
It's like a crack.
It's really satisfying.
So, um, yeah.
Our friend, Gibran, who takes car pictures, just literally, he lives in New Orleans, just started a film store.
Like an actual physical brick and mortar film and vintage camera store.
So, I don't know what it's called.
I should probably, I got to get hold of Gibran and get the name of the store, but in New Orleans.
But, um, but anyway, um, film's not dead.
I just personally have not been, um, motivated that much to shoot film.
Excuse me.
My vanos is bleeding.
Uh, we've talked about Burmins and Scotch and we know that Zach likes the gin.
But how do you feel about Irish and Canadian eye whiskey?
I don't know what Canadian eye whiskey is.
I'm not sure I really do either.
Um, I have, therefore, no opinions on it.
I'd like to try some.
Maybe, uh, if you want to send us a couple like suggestions, like staples of what a good Canadian eye whiskey is,
I'll go to the store and buy a bottle and let you know.
I'm down to try it.
Can we still get Canadian eye whiskey here?
It's real, real question.
It's probably fucking, I don't know.
I mean, it hasn't been long enough.
I bet there's some, some stock still on the ground, you know, but, but yeah, it might become problematic.
We should get it while we can.
Jacking off the record?
Truly exceptional.
No notes exceptional.
Remember that clip of, uh, Ferrell discovering basically Maggie Rogers and her NYU class.
It circulates around Instagram and he just looks up after hearing a song and he's like, I have no notes.
Is Maggie Rogers?
A musician.
Okay.
That's what I, it's not that important, but that's what I have about your username, sir.
Top bourbons under a hundred bucks.
Number one to conic distillery.
Uh, if you can get it, it's like last I looked, it's like $55 a bottle.
That's my fucking jam.
Uh, George Dickel single.
I think it's single barrel.
It's the, the George Dickel with the blue label.
I forget exactly what it's called, but it's like a squat little bottle with a tall skinny neck and it's got a blue label on it.
That's mine.
That's the shit right there.
Johnny brought one.
It was like 26.
It was like each well or something like that.
Oh, Jay, uh, weller.
Weller.
No, no, no, not weller.
Weller's expensive.
Um, the, um, the shit that Jay, the Johnny got was JTS brown and it was like 25 bucks.
Delicious.
And it was totally delicious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good three.
Uh, Christian says, are we reviewing the Ferrari 12C?
Yes, we are.
And as a matter of fact, I have to circle back with them.
They told me to circle back after pebble.
And then I forgot.
And thank you.
Right.
Now you get, that's, that's the part of the show where you guys get to listen to me.
Make notes.
Thank you for your help.
German Shepherd Transport E 39.
Thoughts on the Porsche wireless EV chargers announced this morning.
Um, we can pull up that story.
So how do you feel about EV chargers, Zach?
I mean, wireless EV chargers.
Do you, do you use one for your phone?
Uh, only in cars that provide them.
Otherwise I, they've gotten a lot better.
For a long time, if the phone moved a millimeter, they would disconnect.
And I found that very frustrating.
So I, I am currently, you know, whatever, call me old, like I trust the wire more.
And I would really hate if I parked my EV overnight.
And I came back and it was like, oh, I was an inch off.
It didn't charge.
Sorry.
You don't have any range.
That would suck.
Well, you have to imagine that there's some kind of a display that goes, right?
It's called a docking display where it guides you on to how to, how to park properly.
And then it confirms that it is charging.
And then one has to hope that Porsche's app would alert you if the charging stopped.
I'm sure that would happen.
One hopes.
So one cannot expect but one hopes.
I, you know, the cables are not that inconvenient for me, but I understand that this is more convenient.
And humans will always drift towards more convenience.
So.
Yeah.
Um, I mean, I would say that, uh, on the one hand, it, uh, not touching anything is convenient.
Um, it may also cause less wear and tear opening the charge port cover door.
If people are charging their cars every single day.
Sure.
Maybe, maybe.
Don't know.
Um, don't know what it will cost compared to a standard home charger.
Standard home chargers are pretty cheap compared to the cost of a Cayenne EV.
So I imagine the, if a home charger is like 500 bucks.
And the Porsche brand home charger wouldn't be.
But, uh, juice box, which is what I use and what I gave my parents to use.
Any, or any, any equivalent brand higher end, but, but independent brand 500 bucks.
Um, I don't think I would use this.
I think, I think it, I think a standard charger has a level of versatility that this doesn't have.
For instance, like, you'd have to also have a regular charger if you had this.
Why?
If you failed, you'd still want to be able to charge the car.
The car obviously still has a charge port so you can charge other places.
If a friend comes over with an EV, you want to be able to charge to drive an EV
and not have somewhere to charge a friend's EV is selfish and silly.
Well, now you're using all the time in my house.
Now you're in Samsung versus iPhone, you know, Thunderbolt LAN.
Sure.
It's like, oh, I have the cable for this phone, but not your phone.
Yeah, that's true.
I charge friends cars in my house all the time.
Just if they're, if they're over, you know, if they're staying over or whatever.
Um, I think if this is stable, yeah, it will be popular among people who, I mean, people like convenience, older people.
Yeah, I think it'll just remain just, will remain to be seen.
How easy it is.
How, like, how precise do you have to be over this rectangle?
If you're, if you're listening to us looking at the picture, it looks like a rectangle.
It's like about as big as the hood, maybe half the size of the hood.
So it's like the size of a dormant.
Yeah, it looks like a dormant.
So can you be off to the left a little bit, off to the right a little bit, and it still works.
I hope so.
I assume so.
I mean, probably it's this is not this, you know, it's probably probably McLaren did this first with the speedtail.
The word is it never fucking worked.
It never worked.
I know two people have had speedtails.
I would trust Porsche more to roll that, they usually don't roll things out until they're pretty solid.
But my charge cable was recalled just so you know, really?
Yeah, that was the first recall.
Oh, the first recall when I bought the car, I bought the car and I immediately was like, open recall.
And I went to the dealer and they go, here's your new charge cable.
Give me the other one.
I'm staying corrected.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I look forward to using it.
Sure.
There'll be a press launch and one of us will get to try it.
And I hope it's stable.
And I think like, like my dad, he does, he parks his car in the same spot in the same garage every day.
At my house, I don't park my EV in the garage.
I park it in the driveway.
And I have like a 30 foot cable.
And so I like the flexibility to be able to park it pretty much wherever in the driveway I need to and get my charge on.
Yeah.
I do like that.
This is more convenient for a very specific situation.
But outside of those parameters, it is less convenient.
I would bet that over 50% of Cayenne owners and probably an even higher percentage of that of perspective Cayenne EV buyers park their cars in a garage.
Oh, sure.
I wonder if the Matt is all weather capable though.
So like if you did have a driveway, if you could, I don't know, you know, if you could just like lay this thing on the driveway and then drive over it.
But maybe what it leaves get on it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Because that's easy.
Right.
It's fire like a magnifying glass.
I don't know how it works.
Does it get you?
No.
Let us know in the comments.
Hot.
I don't know about you.
But like, if I try to use the wireless charger, my phone gets hot as shit.
Yeah.
It does.
You use wireless chargers and cars.
I wonder if the car will have to run its battery cooling system while charging.
Well, sometimes they do anyway.
When they're plugged in.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I wonder if you, if you, my car will make a, not as loud as the Ford.
The Ford did it a little more than the Ticon.
When it was plugged in, it did make the slight hum of, you know, circulating energy and coolant.
Um, once in a while, like you would, you would come and go.
Yeah.
But I think, I think the phone gets hotter with wireless charging than plugged in charging.
For sure.
So I'm wondering if the battery pack and the EVs will then get hotter.
Yeah.
They'll run the cooling system tomorrow or whatever.
Probably.
Uh.
Interesting.
Well.
Interesting indeed.
Trog, Trog door, the burninator.
Uh, oh, really is, uh, has a, has a black pearl canyon.
Thank you very much.
Uh, what is the correct way to describe the dial?
It is to, uh, um, Tahitian, black mother of pearl.
That's what it's called.
Uh, work from home.
Rody.
Uh, super.
Oh, see here.
I respect the question.
Work from home, Rody.
Not a superhero guy, though.
Want us to give superheroes cars.
Super heroes need to fly.
They can't be driving.
A lot of them don't fly.
Now they just jump a lot.
They jump.
Yeah.
They can't let everyone fly as they're all Superman.
And then you lose the Christian imagery.
Think about it's true.
Can't have more than one God, man.
It wouldn't be one, Jesus.
Yeah.
True.
Uh, okay.
Uh, I don't understand the wording of that question.
Neil deGrasse Tykon.
That is very good.
Very good.
Uh, from a, uh, from a data perspective,
how are the patrons distributed across the globe?
Can we see the breakdown by country?
Can you see the breakdown by country?
I'm not sure.
You can on like YouTube.
On YouTube, we're 56% US.
Uh, and then about like 50, uh, like 10, 12,
like 10, 12% Canada.
Uh, and then maybe like eight UK.
Um, and then it's, you know,
single digits for some Middle Eastern countries,
other Western European countries.
Um, Australian New Zealand,
Australia might be like 5%.
Um, but it's, it's very small percentages
if you go into countries where English is not the main language.
Uh, it does not show me any data on where y'all live.
Where our patrons live, I should say.
Yeah, it doesn't have any of the data like, um,
um, YouTube does.
So I don't know.
Um, Tahitian Curse of the Black Mother of Pearl Jam.
There's a lot happening there.
And I'm into it though.
Is it a good idea to buy or lease a Tesla Model Y
after the tax credit ends?
I'm on the defense on pulling the trigger
on a used one with decent miles.
Um, I would not buy a fucking used Tesla.
They're built really badly,
like really badly in the Model Y rides like shit.
I'd much rather have a used 2023
or four Ford Machee every fucking day of the week.
That's true.
They're built so much better and they ride better.
Defense on the charging network in your area,
but I mean, public charging has gotten better outside of Tesla.
Still wins with the super charging network.
Do you see Jason Fenski just bought a Lucid or at least a Lucid?
Oh, for like nothing to get one of the cheap ones.
Really cheap.
Yeah.
It was 82 or $76,000 is the list price,
but his lease deal is insane.
Like five something really low.
Yeah.
The video is worth watching.
It's very funny.
But, um, yeah.
So that's his, he had a Model Y for seven years.
There is a price at which a Lucid is a good, a good buy.
You know, not $180,000, but like,
if you're talking about, you know,
600 a month or something like hell, yeah, on a Lucid,
those things drive great.
Ryan West says,
you've often said that the current Bentley line
is basically as good as a car can be as long as you can afford it.
That's, yeah, I will stand by that.
I have no reason to disagree generally,
but which car ticks all of those boxes in a more urban city friendly size?
Is it a Macon or am I forgetting something else?
The Macon is very strong.
Macon is very strong.
It looks good, drives great, looks good inside and out.
Capable rides pretty well.
Yeah.
If you get two sporty,
it won't ride very well in New York City or in Boston.
Like the ride can get a bit stiff.
Yeah.
Good, it's good as a car.
I mean, if you're,
let's see.
The thing about, yeah,
the Bentley's are so good at everything.
I mean, you haven't,
the Audi SQ5 is pretty, pretty good.
It's not quite as good as a Macon, but it's pretty good.
There are any other like great,
like sport crossovers that I am not thinking of right now?
I mean,
the Audi RS3
is probably a little firm for New York City or Boston.
S3.
The S3 is nice.
That's a lot of car.
I think that's a car.
It delivers on,
because all these categories,
usually they have Macon money,
you shouldn't get an S3.
Yeah, true.
I mean, there's a big difference in price.
Especially if you get into the upper tiers of Macon.
Yeah.
But the thing with the Bentley
is when things cost that much,
the suspension gets as magical as it can get.
Because they can afford the crazy air damper
or whatever the technology is,
and you just can't get that alert.
That's why it rides so good,
and then it firms up,
and you have all the luxurious appointments inside.
So I think it's like,
you know, they do the whole like,
here's three categories, pick two.
The Bentley is,
when you're at that price,
you can pick three.
And that's a spare.
Yeah, that's,
that's the last good and cheap, you know,
pick two.
But like,
if you can make,
if you can get rid of cheap,
then you can just fall for it.
Well, it's like performance, luxury comfort,
you know, pick two.
But when you get into like Bentley Continental GT Speed,
you pick three.
And it's amazing.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
There's not...
The Audi RS3 does,
does all of those things very well
in a compact package,
as does a good Macon,
or an SQ5.
Also like a Tykon cross-terizmo.
Kind of big car, though, I think.
Tykon?
Yeah.
I haven't driven an X1 in a long time.
I wonder if that's...
I haven't thought about an X1 in forever.
Mm.
Yeah.
I think, I think...
Yeah, it's hard to beat a Macon,
especially if you're talking about a brand new one.
Yeah.
This name is amazing.
David II, the pink,
one in the stink,
is about as good a username as I've never heard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
EVs will have the tax credit vaporized on September 30th.
If I lease or buy now,
I'll face inflated prices because of artificial demand.
Or wait till after 930
and see if manufacturers absorb the 7,500.
I mean, that's just a gamble.
Yeah.
My bet, and I'm saying bet,
like, don't listen to me.
I have no insider information.
I bet prices fall a lot after the credit vaporizes,
because I think it's just...
Because people will just...
I used to take it on a few months.
Stop buying, yeah.
Yeah.
But we'll see.
Hellcat Brown, I just saw this one this morning.
Have you seen the video of the, quote,
$1 million yacht
that capsized instantly after launching?
I know nothing about yachts,
but no way that that's a $1 million yacht.
I thought exactly the fucking same thing.
The boat looks to be about a...
Maybe about a 55 to 65 foot power yacht.
Apparently built in Turkey.
It's a big fucking boat.
And there is absolutely no way that that is a million dollars.
If that's a brand new boat,
that's got to be $4 million.
Yeah.
More expensive, right?
Much more expensive.
Much, much more expensive.
$4, $5 million.
$1 million today
will get you...
If you're talking about a power boat with a cabin,
like with a livable inside,
you're talking probably for a million.
Maybe it'll get you 45 feet.
Boats are so fucking expensive.
Especially if you're talking yachts.
This is easy for five, maybe even more.
But it's crazy.
The video just...
They roll it down the ramp
and it fucking...
It's in the yacht.
It's short enough for like a fucking TikTok
and it starts the list and then...
But if this boat...
Let me tell you something.
If this boat actually costs a million dollars,
I'm not surprised at sank.
It's like you cheap for the size.
That's big.
That only costs one million dollars.
That's a shitbox.
Like straight up...
Shitbox.
It didn't have an engineering team.
They just had a design team.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is like a three story...
About two story.
This is a big boat.
That's crazy.
It's got all the radar and stuff.
Man.
Yeah.
And I mean, like...
It's built in Turkey.
Like, you know, I'm not...
There are a lot of very high quality boats built in Turkey.
So you can't be like, oh, what's fucking Turkish, huh?
Like, no, no, no.
But...
Yeah.
A...
Five million probably and B...
If it really was one...
Yikes.
Every population, every industry has a person...
Down the street who goes...
They charge you four million, right?
I can do it for one.
Yeah.
And it's not gonna work out.
There's a reason...
It's expensive.
It sucks.
I wonder if, you know, if it's made...
If it really is made in voyage, though...
It's probably on the shipyard and not on the owner...
Even in terms of an insurance claim.
Oh, yeah.
They probably have not actually taken delivery...
Because you have to do sea trials and stuff like that...
Before you can take delivery...
But you're in a car sink.
Yeah, yeah.
It's probably...
It's probably the shipyard's insurance.
Probably.
Yeah.
Um...
Matt's Bong the adjuster.
As YouTube becomes more rewarding of short form,
would it make sense to stop making YouTube videos
and add another weekly podcast
or is the math looking bad there, too?
I don't have any evidence
that a third episode a week
would return money
in proportion to its own existence.
And I'm pretty sure that if we had to fill
four and a half hours of content a week
instead of three,
that I'd have a pretty hard time doing that,
because we wouldn't have time to go out
and do the things that we need to talk about on this program.
I also think we exist in a weird time
where short form is bigger than ever,
but long form has definitely returned.
Mm-hmm.
Look at, you know,
Finski's videos,
there's plenty of content out there
that is 20 to 40 minutes,
sometimes longer.
Like Larry Chen's videos are a bunch of them
or 45 minutes plus,
so it's really interesting
that there's the audiences now.
I don't know if they're divided
where younger people are in the short form
or older people are long form,
but I know my friends with kids,
all they can do is watch shorts
because that's what they have time for literally.
And so I don't know,
it's an interesting time
where super short and longer shit
are both succeeding at the same time.
Yeah.
BMW, the ultimate check engine light machine.
Now, that's all right.
I've had a 2009 WRX for 16 years,
bought it new.
I have three kids and a wife,
so my new car needs to be spacious,
comfortable for road trips,
but still fun and sporty when I'm alone.
I prefer manual and rear-wheel drive, best of luck,
but would consider other options
if they're compelling.
25 to $40,000 pro tip,
I work at a Chevy dealer
and can get GM parts and service on the cheap.
Can you get a Chevy SS before that?
I then, yeah, you would, you want an SS.
Yep, that's it.
That's what the newest, nicest one you can afford.
Eric is in five.
That's, that's what you've got.
Matt's 2013 polo sweater.
I like where your head is at.
Do I have a 2013 polo sweater?
Is there a specific sweater that I had
that is embarrassing from 2013?
I feel like that's a reference to something.
It does feel like that.
I don't know what it is.
Well, if I, I don't, I don't know.
I have, I had the one from the Beijing Olympics
that had my name on the back of it that was embroidered.
That may have been it.
Deep cut, let's just see.
Deep cut.
How do you feel about low riders?
It would be cool to see a one-take bouncing and leaning.
I think they're awesome.
Love them.
Yeah. 100%.
I think that's a car that really clearly displays
the owner's love and work put into it
because it's such, so much of it is about aesthetics
and I always appreciate that.
Yeah.
They don't love when you like film them.
They don't trust the media to not either make fun of them,
misunderstand them or like villainize them as gangsters
and most of these people are like seriously like family people
and like real Christians, not like bullshit Christians.
And they're like not gang bangers.
You know what I mean?
They like, they drive, they have the cholo style or whatever.
But like, they're like, you know, people in low riders today
are like community leaders, not gang bangers
and they get very skeptical of people filming them.
We hung out with Mr. Cartoon and rolled his low rider
and that was fun as hell.
Chris wants to talk about the Nismo Z Manual.
Yes, that, that will be excellent.
Do you think there'll be a press launch for it?
Yeah.
Probably, right?
Why wouldn't there be?
I don't know, but the Nismo Z was kick ass
other than the automatic gearbox.
So I bet that would be a really, really good car.
I feel like I remember I drove that,
well, we both drove that Z1 Motorsports car
and we're like, I wonder what it cost to convert
a Nismo to a manual and now they're making one.
Yeah.
That'll be the end of that car.
Yeah.
It'll be like those people who were doing wide body
Hellcats before Dodge did them themselves.
Yeah.
Got a business real quick.
The take rate was so high on the wide body.
Oh, okay.
Cayman Mysock.
I think is it supposed to be pronounced Mysock
or is it supposed to be like Messiah?
No, I think it's a play on Ysock package.
It's a play on Ysock.
It's great.
It's Mysock.
Yeah.
Okay.
I didn't know if it was a Messiah.
No, no, if they wrote Mysock.
Yeah, yeah.
Now and also they came in Mysock.
I like it.
Came in Mysock.
I like it.
Came in Mysock.
That's the joke.
Oh, that's fucking funny.
You have to say it out loud.
Yeah.
If you're 14, you know it.
No, no, no, that's a no notes.
That's A level.
Yeah, it's awesome.
For scientific purposes, let's say
that you have a family member that works at Hyundai.
Given the incredible discount,
you get off of vehicles.
What genesis would you pick,
the higher the trim, the bigger the discount?
I couldn't tell you the name of a trim level
of a single genesis, my friend.
The last one I drove was really nice.
I do remember that.
I don't remember what it was.
I like the SUV that looks like the Bentley.
The SUV, the GV70.
All of the parts were really good.
GV70 I think is a nice looking vehicle.
I think the GV60 is an interesting EV.
If you get that, get that loaded up nice.
Well, it's like the Kia EV6, right?
It's the, yeah, and the Ionic 5.
Yeah.
I think it looks good.
It's looking good interior.
The G70 is a nice sedan, but I mean,
if you're talking, you know,
you get better discounts off higher trim cars.
Like they do get nicer.
Yeah, I would go with the GV.
Slowed it up GV60 maybe?
I think if I was going to do an EV,
I think they're great looking cars.
Yeah, they look really good.
Probably loaded up GV60.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good username though.
Shout out to them.
Roof yellow leadburder.
Now we're talking.
That's excellent.
You mentioned punchless type work being done on the manks.
What is the warranty like on a resto mod?
I think it's, I mean, I don't,
there isn't a written warranty, okay?
So any pretty much anything is handshake.
But obviously I am, you know,
providing a lot of positive PR for the company
just based on my experience.
So any fucking smart businessman
would want to make sure my car is good.
Sure.
I mean, having said that,
I think they probably want to make sure
everybody's car is good.
Mine is just, I think,
a little more important than most,
because it's the first one
notes that I'm giving back and changes that we're making now
are just going to be the default on other customers' cars.
So it's a little more important to have
a very detailed punch list.
Wait, what was the actual question though?
Oh, the warranty.
Yeah, handshake, honestly,
but you know, generally,
when I've had like very expensive aftermarket or service work done,
I've felt very comfortable asking for a handshake
warranty of a year, you know,
reasonable use.
And with, you know,
the people who do work on my shit
or who they know I take care of stuff,
they know I'm not going to go out and fucking rip donuts
until the gearbox explodes.
Right.
So if I tell you something's broken,
it's because it's broken.
It's not because like I was a moron.
Yeah.
One pothole on the FDR drive,
Volkswagen's putting in the five cylinder
into the Golf R as they say.
I see no issues with this.
I'm pro this.
There's no controversy.
And if that means you can get a Golf R powertrain
for $52,000 instead of $68,
that sounds like a win to me.
I think it'll get the ceramic brakes.
I think it'll sound great.
They're going to do tuning.
It makes up for the interior.
They're going to do tuning.
There's no way it makes the same power as the Audi.
Oh, of course,
but then you take it down the street to somebody.
Sure.
And then it makes a ton of power.
It makes 405.
I bet you they,
I bet you they make it do 360.
What does the Golf R currently make?
I forget.
300.
300, 30, 30, 30 something.
Oh, it's like 305, right?
Yeah.
15.
Oh, yeah.
Good guess.
360.
I go 360.
Yeah.
The Myers-Manks glitzy, glitzy addition.
Question for Zach.
I've always wanted to own an E46 M3 in Laguna,
sake of blue,
but the cost premium for that color
over a similar condition.
Black silver is substantial
and buying a non-color premium car
and having it wrapped Laguna, sake of blue.
Does your wrap give you the same experience
as if you bought an Amazon green car
or do questions like,
is it paint or wrap get tiresome?
Well, the question I've gotten a lot is,
when did you paint it?
I don't get a question of,
is it wrapped?
So it's not tiresome yet.
Experience, I am more careful with it
than I would if it was paint.
Like when I opened the door,
I mean, I'm always careful opening the door in my garage
because there's not a ton of space.
But I'm a little extra nervous because it is...
Because it can tear.
It can tear.
And it's like a self-healing thing in it
and it's supposed to be pretty durable
for like five years at least.
But I just know that it's not as hard
as, you know, clear coat with paint.
So that's the experience of living with it.
Now, the cost savings like,
this is a math question
and you need to call a wrap shop near you.
Like 405 hooked me up.
They gave me a very big discount.
But if it had been done MSRP,
it would be like $14,000.
And I know everyone's going,
holy fucking shit.
Like when I saw how much work they put into it,
I understand why they charged so much money
and the work is super detailed.
They also did like the entire vehicle prep essentially
as if it was getting painted.
Right.
They just didn't do the paint.
They filled every single dimple on my body,
every single one.
And like they sanded and primed the hood.
I mean, like you said,
the prep was so perfect.
That's where a ton of your money goes.
So I would say call around to wrap shops in your area
and ask them what they would charge
to do a PPF color wrap on a car
and ask how long, how much prep they do.
Because if you're buying,
you're obviously buying a used car.
It's probably going to have the same pits and dents my car did.
And 405's philosophy,
which I agree with,
is if you're putting a brand new surface on a car,
if there are dimples and dents and things,
you're going to see them when you look down the side
or the top of that car.
So that's why they fill them.
Other shops might do as much work.
But you might find that spending the money on the LSB car
is about the same as having a shop
do a really high quality wrap.
And then you have a car that is OEM LSB,
which is a very desirable color.
Alternatively,
the premium for that color,
for the color you want,
is going to be the same when you buy it
as it is when you sell it.
Okay.
So it doesn't necessarily mean
you have the money to spend right now.
But that premium for that color is parked.
It's not spent.
So you get it back later.
Really good point.
So like, you know, on the one hand,
if you can't afford the premium color
and you really want to get into the car,
by the best example you can find,
and as long as the color is not hideous,
whatever, you're in the game.
Maybe you trade up later,
maybe you wrap it whatever.
But those kind of colors,
whether it's red on a 90s,
Mercedes,
or, you know,
or Laguna, say, a blue,
or whatever,
the good color that everybody wants,
so much so that it makes a premium,
that premium won't go away.
Right.
Whereas selling the car with a wrap,
it's probably going to be more difficult,
or you're going to lose that money,
I think, essentially,
versus selling it with OEM LSB.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last one,
and then we're going to stop,
because I really have to pee.
Tim A. says,
guidelines and best practices
for radar detectors
and maximizing their efficacy.
I like to mount my radar detector high in the windshield.
That's typically the way to do it.
It needs to have a clear view of the front and the back.
I use the portable charge cable for my radar detector,
because I'm bringing it from car to car all the time.
I'm not, I don't have any hard mounts in any of my cars.
If you're only keeping it in one car,
then yeah, the hard mount kit is where it's at.
I like to put my Valentine II on advanced logic mode,
which basically ignores all X-band
and most of your K-bands as well.
It only picks up like the strongest K-bands,
and then K-A-bands.
And then I combine that with ways in car play.
And I find that using those two systems together
is like, it's not perfect,
but it's pretty, pretty foolproof.
I am very rarely surprised by the presence of police.
And so that's what I would do.
I know the Escort, the other, there's other great radar detectors.
I don't use the GPS functions.
I don't use the app pairing really with the Valentine.
I can make all the changes I need through the unit now,
which you couldn't do with the older one.
So I keep it all in a nice little like adopt kit thing,
along with my windshield mount and an extra set of chargers.
And that's sort of my like road trip kit
that I bring in whatever car I'm road tripping,
so I'm just ready to go.
And I'm gonna thank you very much.
Before we get out of here,
Roth V wants to offer my mom 26K for her F-Type.
Shit, it's not for sale, homie.
Did I talk about selling the F-Type?
He asked if it was for sale.
You said making offer.
Oh, I did.
All right, I'll bring the offer to my mom.
I suspect the answer will be no,
but I will bring it to my mom.
I'll give her 27.
Thank you, everyone, for your questions today.
We appreciate all of our patrons.
I am off tomorrow to North Georgia.
I'm gonna be driving a 9-11 Carrera S
across the Smoky Mountains,
a scouting for the road and track.
Blue Ridge Ramble that's happening in November.
This one's gonna be awesome.
We're gonna be doing two tracks.
We're gonna be doing the PEC in Portia's.
And we're gonna be doing Atlanta Motorsports Park
in your own cars.
Plus, we're gonna be driving both the Cherhala Skyway
and Tail of the Dragon.
Plus, we're gonna be staying at very high-end hotels
in Brazillton.
We're staying in Chateau, Milan.
We're gonna be staying at the Oliver in Knoxville.
And we're gonna be staying at a Nobu in Atlanta.
And we're gonna be going to Nashville as well.
It's gonna be a kick-ass trip.
Wow.
But I'm gonna spend the next four days just driving.
And fortunately, I asked to borrow a car.
And they have a 9-11 Carrera S that's sitting around.
So at least I get to drive something nice.
Yeah.
So if you go back a few posts in my Instagram to Motorcycle Day,
yeah, there's some photos of it.
And I'll post some more later.
But there it is.
That's the BMW R129T.
Which is, BMW people will defend this
as a very creative minute name.
I think this is in the Jeremy Clarkson Fax machines name.
Basically, you can decode it.
The R in that name means it has the horizontally opposed boxer engine,
which you typically will see in the BMW GS Adventure Bikes,
aka the best motorcycles ever made ever, probably.
So basically they learned from Alan Turing.
And that's how they name their motorcycles now.
Yeah.
It's coding.
Super.
So R, it's kind of like, I mean, well,
I would say for a time being Mercedes or BMW,
you could decode what the car is from the badge.
Now that badge doesn't mean shit.
But so basically R is horizontally opposed boxer engine,
which looks like one-third of an air-cooled Porsche engine, essentially.
And R12 means it's a 1200cc engine.
That engine has come in a variety of displacements.
The newest big GS is a 1300.
This is the older GS 1200 from like three or four years ago.
And the nine, which is written,
letter R, number 12, word nine, letter T.
Okay.
It's a, it's also a throwback style to BMW's R90,
R90 motorcycle from back in the day.
All right.
So there's a couple things happening.
I happen to think it is a very, very pretty motorcycle.
It is what you might call a sport tour.
Zach, if you click over to the right,
I have a, maybe a better photo of the bike.
It has that the full powertrain from the R1200 GS,
but shoved into a smaller naked sort of sport bike.
Now it can't be fully sporty,
because this sort of monster wide low engine
that makes a whole bunch of torque mid-range punch.
And this really beefy, shaft drive robust gearbox
that's meant for this ride around the world adventure bike.
But it's on a street focused suspension on a lower thing.
The tank is actually sort of the same similar to the GS.
It's big, big tank.
But then it has like a normal seat
and then a normal sort of setup for street riding.
So it's this kind of like funky in-between thing.
It's a, it would be like, well, like a,
like a Imagine Dodge had built the V10 truck first
and then put that engine in a sports car.
Yeah.
Basically like Ford, F-150 lightning
and then the Ford GT had a version of the same engine.
Same kind of, same kind of concept there.
But it's, so, so some good things about it.
I have anything it's very pretty.
As do many other people.
Everywhere I went with it, people were like that
as a very pretty motorcycle.
BMW motorcycles, particularly BMW motorcycles
with boxer engines have like sort of the ultimate in street cred.
Everybody, whether it's an adult or a kid
or someone who knows a lot about motorcycle
or someone who's a little bit,
they all universally understand
that BMW motorcycles are good.
These are well made hot every, like little kids.
We're like, that's a BMW motorcycle.
Now is that because of their history
with the, the GS is probably the world stuff
and then people assume it.
And I guess people assume it trickles down
and quality to their other bikes and does it.
As far as I know, I mean, I've,
the police salt here in LA,
the cops all ride BMW K1100s.
Like they don't ride Harleys anymore here.
They ride K1100s.
Harleys are for a little race.
Yeah, they're all on BMWs now.
And, and also like the,
the S1000RR sport bike is like
pretty gold standard level stuff.
I mean, it's right up there with, you know,
Ducati in terms of, in the highest end Japanese stuff
in terms of quality.
And I haven't heard any horror stories.
Maybe motorcycle nerds are like,
well, you didn't know about the fucking
sprocket timing guides or whatever.
I don't know,
but I've not heard some horror stories about BMW motorcycles.
And you see them with tons of miles on them.
Anyway, it feels really solid,
feels really well made.
It rides, I mean,
literally the suspension,
the ride quality is very nice.
It's really heavy for its size.
And so it is resistant to turning in some ways.
It's not the most agile bike,
even though the weight is pretty low
with the horizontal cylinders compared to
it was maybe a big V.
But still, it is heavy.
And because of that engine,
the mid-range torque is really good.
Having said that,
there are some issues.
Because it's heavy,
it's not as agile as other motorcycles
of this price point.
And it's not as agile as it looks.
For instance,
it's $19,000 as equipped,
which will buy you
anything.
It will buy you a lot.
And so it exists in this middle ground
where it's really cool and weird
and interesting and different.
But being those things doesn't make it
excel at anything.
It's not like,
well, it has the engine from this
and that makes it better because.
Right.
You know, frankly,
it would probably be an objectively better motorcycle
if it had the 1100cc four-cylinder instead of this.
Yeah.
But that would also make it worse,
like the Puro Songway.
If the Puro Songway had the twin-turbo V6,
it would probably be a better SUV,
but it's a worse Ferrari.
Same thing.
There's no fuel gauge.
There's an emergency light.
But $19,000 BMW motorcycle
should have an actual fuel gauge.
Does it have a miles to empty somewhere?
No, nothing.
Just a light when you get low.
No.
No.
No.
I'm going to pass on that one.
Yeah.
And you look through the menus.
Like there's no.
Oh, through every menu.
There isn't a range.
GTFO.
There's an average fuel economy,
which is what's 39 for me.
Yeah.
And, you know,
one could do the math on how much the tank holds.
Oh, I want to do that.
I don't either.
I want a fuel gauge for $19,000.
Wow.
Okay.
Huge mess.
My Vespa, $5,500 fuel gauge.
Like that one,
that one we need.
The quick shifter,
I know I'm sold on quick shifters.
You don't have to use them,
but if they're there,
they're typically very nice,
and I ride in traffic a lot,
so it makes my day easier.
But this quick shifter
is only good when you're accelerating
briskly,
not necessarily flat,
but harder than I would accelerate
when just riding around on the street.
Let's call it 50% throttle.
The quick shifter is smooth.
That under 50% throttle,
it kicks,
which in a car,
fine on a motorcycle,
I don't love my motorcycle kicking
from underneath me at light throttle.
So I have to use the clutch
to shift smoothly when going slowly,
which I also like using quick shifters
to shift smoothly when going slowly.
I don't only want to use a quick shifter
when going fast.
My guess is,
the GS is a lot heavier.
The quick shifter is just taken right out of the GS,
and no adjustments are made
for the different geometries
and or weights of this motorcycle
versus that motorcycle,
because I did not have that issue
when using a quick shifter
on the last GS I rode.
So that was odd.
And likewise,
because I was using the clutch a lot,
the clutch engagement is a little chunky.
Now that could be good
if you're getting used to riding motorcycles,
fabulous clutch feel.
I mean, it was a real,
it's off, it's off, it's on.
You could really feel it through your left hand,
but it was also a pretty hard transition
from off to on,
and it made an accompanying thunk
in the motorcycle.
So slipping it was more of an off switch.
When it first started to engage,
when it went from zero to the beginning
of the friction zone,
so that is not necessarily bad,
but like you could feel it.
It was a thing,
almost like putting a high performance,
like sequential gearbox car into first.
And did the bike move,
like, you know,
drove forward?
No.
Did you feel it more?
You felt it through the bike.
You feel it through the bike.
And you know,
okay, that's now,
you know, it's engaged,
but it's in other bikes
that I've written
that has been a smoother engagement.
You know, again, 19 grand,
it's a refinement thing,
more than anything else.
Having said that,
I've had this for two weeks.
I forgot what day it's supposed to go back.
I think it's another week or so.
Overwhelmingly though,
I think it's a very,
it's been a very nice thing to ride.
I've done about 450 miles on it.
So I have ridden it a bunch.
And it's,
it's a neat thing.
And if you are a fan
of weird boxer BMWs,
but you're not going to go adventuring,
you're going to ride just around.
Here's a way to get that weird engine
in a more streetable package.
Now,
did you miss having a windshield?
You know, the GS always has a windshield.
I hate how windshields look,
but if I'm really going to do
any kind of highway riding at all,
absolutely indispensable,
you know, this thing,
up to about 6570,
it's fine.
Above 80,
you know, granted that is an alleged speed
that I might have tried once,
somewhere where far away from people.
Close course.
Close course.
You're really hanging on.
Or you have to talk,
which I don't want to talk on this fucking bike.
Yeah, naked bikes look so cool.
Yeah, for the city,
and for occasional highway,
or you know,
back roads, you know,
sub 70 miles an hour,
naked bikes rule.
On the highway,
you know,
you get so tired without a windshield so fast.
Well, if you're taking the corners fast,
you're not even behind the windshield anyway, right?
You're just hanging out,
hanging off like Tom Cruise.
Yeah.
But generally,
a very well-made and interesting motorcycle
that I'm sure will find its audience
and it was very pretty.
Oh, you know what else was,
despite being like,
it feels so solid this thing.
You know, it really does feel very solid.
Except for one thing,
which is unforgivably flimsy.
I can't figure this out.
The gauge pod,
the two gauges that are above the headlight,
I don't know if I have another photo of it.
I don't have a good photo of it.
It's not how the gauges look.
It doesn't matter about that.
The gauges look fine.
They're analog.
They're nice sweep.
They actually work great as gauges.
Minus the lack of a fuel gauge.
But those gauges are mounted on a bracket,
a plastic bracket that then, you know,
attaches to the fork somehow.
And it like,
it's literally just a plastic bracket
with a little kick-up
and on one end it attaches the fork
and then it kicks up
and the gauges attach to it.
So they're on kind of an angle.
So much metal on this motorcycle
and this bracket's plastic.
And I wouldn't care that it was plastic,
except the gauges fucking bounce.
Wow.
When you hit bumps, the gauges bounce.
And I was like,
how is this a thing?
Like, this is crazy.
Like, to the point where on some rough roads
I had trouble reading them.
And I was like,
and I'm looking at it and I'm going,
it's not like it's a,
it's not like it's a rubber,
it's not like it's got a bushing there
where it's designed to bounce,
you know, like an anti-earthquake building.
It's not that.
It's just a shitty piece of plastic
that can't handle the weight of its own gauges over bumps.
I wonder if they did a metal bracket
then they would need a bushing
because then the vibration's the gauge up.
That is totally possible.
And then maybe you'd still have the same movement.
I'm not sure.
It's totally possible.
And that was like the first chain raptor problem
where people were bending frames.
And Jamal was like,
look, I could make the frame stiffer
but the next thing that explodes
is your shocks.
And if one of those goes,
you don't drive home.
Whereas you can drive home on a bent frame
and complain to me from the safety of the dealership.
And that was his trade-off.
So you could be totally right here.
And this piece of junk thing
is designed to protect a gauge
that needs a some kind of a shock absorber.
But the fact is the end result is
you're riding around a $19,000 motorcycle
and the gauges are bouncing.
Which is weird.
Yeah, that's weird and hard to read.
Really bizarre.
But shout out to BMW
for letting me have a go.
I have enjoyed it.
And shout out to my friend Mike
for coming all the way out to LA
from New York for the first time in 16 years
and giving me a reason to ride it up the mountain.
That was cool.
So I'll see you guys next week
when I get back from my trip
and we'll have more smoking tire podcasts then.
See you later.
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