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A lively discussion centers around the potential impact of Chinese vehicles entering the U.S. market, particularly focusing on their low price points and how they could disrupt the current automotive landscape. The hosts debate the implications for American manufacturers and consumer choices, while sharing personal anecdotes about car repairs and the frustrations of dealing with warranties. The episode also touches on the nostalgia of car culture, including cruising and car shows, and the challenges of organizing safe automotive events in the community.
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car repairs
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Radio, Dave Polagh. Hey, guys, welcome to the show. You
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Big DAVP hanging out, Camrachaos and Nate VB. It is a very wet,
wet Saturday, it is, unfortunately. Yeah it uh it's been raining
all night. I mean, so if you guys had anything playing for outside,
I know there was some mud racing and stuff going on this weekend.
H I'm sure that's got to be canceled. I mean it's it's it's wet,
it's rainy. So uh, good news is is you can grab a
little drinky drinking and sit back and listen to us and hang out. I
mean, that's that's that's the best alternative, right, drink and drink a little drank and drinking. So hey, guys, you know, we've been
talking a lot of stuff on the show, and it seems like a lot of things have come back around uh this week. It's interesting because we were
you know, we touched on it a little bit here and there. I
think we even kind of touched on it last week we were talking. It
just came up in a small part of one of the conversations we're having.
You know, I've told you guys about uh, Chinese vehicles, right, we for years and years we've had conversations about all the different Chinese vehicles that are out there and the one Seeds, well, the eight Seed suv that they want to sell for like ten grand, and they still do, by the way, it's not that they don't. We're still four of them.
You remember those. You can't so you can't at this point in time.
You can't do Chinese vehicles unless I think you still I think you get them here, but you still I think you have to piece something like that.
Whatever. So Biden this week. It's why it rolls back into the news.
And like said, it's funny that we've been talking about it is thinking about possibly green lighting Chinese vehicles into the United States. Now everybody says,
well, what's the big deal. As I've told you guys for years,
it would seriously cripple the United States car market. And not because it's just
an introduction of another car, because everybody's like, oh, there's tons of cars out there, what's you know, how does that work out? It's
the price point what they want to sell the cars at, right, so which is probably great for people who want to buy something new, But as far as the way the car market currently works, the price points are dressed different. Like I said, you know, an eight passing your suv for
ten grands. So when you really break that down truly, and Nathaniel and
I we talked about it many times. We were having the debate again before
we came on the air. That's why I was laughing when we came on
the air because we're sitting there debating about things. But think about you know,
ten grand isn't real money when it comes to cars. I mean ten
grand is just I call it to a certain degree. When it comes in
the car market, it's almost kind of throw away money to a certain degree compared to what cars costs now. So if you think about it, you
know, every two years you could basically throw that car away and go get another car. At ten grand. You hope it lasts longer than two years.
But I mean, I'm not going to have a huge fluctuation of what I how long I think these cars are going to roll around for, because at ten grand it is a throwaway vehicle. That's that's I mean for something
new for you know, you go by, let's say twenty twenty six eight passing your SUV for ten grand, I don't expect it to last a whole long time. But you know, take a look at some of the other
cars that got brought into the market, could over you know, past years, you know, going decades, and look how long some of those still roll around. They look at the car and lee car, the car,
you know what I mean. There was tons of those running around for fuel
economy for a long time. I mean there was just different stuff that people
thought would never last around the market. That has right, So the impact
on the market like they had and I'm sure some of the prices probably go up a little bit by the time they actually got here, but I don't think they're gonna go up a lot. You know, they got a sports
Sedan they want to sell for like eight grand. It's actually a pretty good
looking car. And then they got a two door sports coup that was like
seventy nine hundred dollars they wanted to sell at one time here and they're they're talking these are brand new cars. They're just Chinese, mate. And then
you know, Nathania brought up a good point and he was like, I don't know how they can do it because we have so many problems with slave labor and all that kind of stuff already in other products. You know,
it has to be being done in the car market. So it's getting so
they're gonna actually put the build in Mexico is okay. But still, if
you're gonna sell those cars, right, if you're gonna still try to sell them for those price points they've always tried to sell them for, then people are gonna buy them. I'm not saying I'm gonna buy one, but people
are going to buy them and keep it right. Yeah, right, So
people are gonna buy them because because of the cheapness of them. So you're
gonna flood the market with the cards for people who normally would go out, and we find a way to make it happen. I mean, right this
second year, like what, just a little over forty thousand dollars for a halfway decent car. I'm not talking to anything really nice, but if you
buy halfway decent car nowadays, you're about forty grand into it. So forty
thousand dollars versus ten grand, I can tell you that people that are anywhere from I won't say lower income, but somewhat lower to medium income that needed that need to go buy a new car are gonna go buy a car for ten grand. They're just gonna do it. And I'm go look at the
cars, guys. We're not talking about like junk. I mean, like
you, I don't know how they're gonna hold together. Don't be wrong,
because I've never driven one, but from the outside appearance and the interior side of these cars, they're good looking cars. People are gonna buy them.
People we bought day Wu. Has anybody forgot about day Wu? I mean,
like day who came here with a vengeance out. They're gonna just completely
redo the whole market. And they hung out for a while. So if
day Wu can come and hang out for a while and exist, I mean, I can't see how you can't. What is it is? Xping,
I think is what the name of their company is. X Xping is one
of the Chinese car companies. Yeah, China has like I think thirty eight
different Yeah, there's x King is one of the big Xping is one of the big ones because they make a P seven that's it's a sedan and go look it up. And I believe any of them are actually electric manufacturers.
Well you see, and then here you go. So now here's the other
side of things, right, I don't even even think about this, Like I would have never thought about you have electric cars, self driving cars?
Right, everything has cameras on them, right, Okay, these people are like, what about these cars? You're not going to roam the American streets
with cameras on it recording data. They can send that data anywhere well though,
right, I mean, I'm only ones that have cameras are the ones that have you know, self assist or you know, are built for autonomous driving. No, No, I understand, but they're like in people's mind,
they're like, this would be like the weirdest invasion ever, right, because you could literally use the cars to collect data and technology and information on our country and then ship it back. That's worry. I mean, I
know it sounds like espionagious, but if you read about it, people are really that's what they're worried about. Especially they get a foot in the door
and they start building up just like how Haunta did, right, right, absolutely, So what if they create just so many of the cars and there's so many around that they're now connected to because I'm a network guy, so now they're connected to our infrastructure and you can try to take down one car.
You know, He's right, cars that's still connected to our network and stuff. No, I trust me, I get it. I mean I
completely get it. But it's I'm worried more about like the infrastructure of the
money side of things, because like I said, I know us, okay, us as Americans, we'll go try things, we'll buy things. And
sad price on Titan forty five thousand, Yeah for ten thousand, you want to you know, you wanna mind jumping in a car for that much.
But well, I said ten thousand dollars don't be wrong because I know I'm gonnat piters are gonna send messages and stuff. What are you talking about stuff?
But at ten grand, guys ten grand on when it comes to car money is throwaway money. We're talking about it in the future as well.
You know, four or five years in the future. That's really gonna be
throw away cash. You know, if markets keep going the way they are.
Absolutely it comes down to would you rather have an American car for an extra ten thousand or would you rather have a Chinese car for ten thousand dollars less? What it's gonna be a little more than ten thousand. I mean,
if you're selling if a China car is for you know, ten twenty, right, and we're selling Americans for you know, sixty thousands, you know it's forty thousand hours difference, but it's your favorite quality build right and last, you know, longevity wise. You know who's to say, you
know how long those cars are gonna last? Well, that's what I was
about to say, Like, I'm gonna probably pay the extra money knowing that one to suit the US car, the quality is gonna be just a little bit better, you know, the workmanship that's putting into it, it's probably going to be there's something a little bit more better. You know. I
don't know what these these other factories and other countries are looking like, but we've seen ours and we've seen our workmanship, so hey, we're not we're not the best either. Like we look, American cars and things break on
them right the second you got Fords and Cheves and Dodges falling out of the sky with bad transmission problems, like I mean, look, I mean it's bad, bad right now that all those new design transmissions we've learned aren't holding up, like they're just not they're not. I mean, now it's coming
around. You know, you're seeing twenty nineteen even twenty twenty miles, I
mean the grand everybody's like, oh well, it's four years old. It's
right, that's my point. It's forty years old, and you're already putting
transmissions in cars. You're putting transmission cars at sixty six thousand miles. I
mean, we're doing a lot more than what is like all right somewhere wrong.
You remember how we used to have warranties that like protected us to like sixty thousand miles or like seventy five thous When did those warranties start going down to like they already foul? You did, You're actually wrong, because it
was the other way around. So what it actually was was we had three
year, thirty six thousand was like always the normal still is kind of the normal. And then people started extending out a little bit longer. I think
it was Keia that did the something correct me if I want to say, key was like the first one that really branched out doing like the five year so it was like a five year warranty on it and stuff like that.
There's some some other ones. I think Hondy was one ones that did five
years. But then people start branch out a little bit longer. But here's
the thing. Warranties aren't warranties, like I was not saying. If you
ever had if you've ever had to deal with a warranty issue, just know it's not like you're walking in throwing the keys in the caund give me a call when it's done. It doesn't work that way. It's a process.
They is a process and they pick and choose. It's a battle too.
What it is like, yeah, they pick and choose what you know, how they're going to do it. If there's a way out, trust me,
they're going to take the way out. I mean, I just I've
been dealing with warrant You guys got to remember I've been in and around the car business for so long now that I hate saying like that, but I have seen it all. Like nothing even seems to surprise me anymore. Other
people, the younger guys that are coming into the business, they are shocked, like when things happen right, and I just go, I'm not I'm not shocked. Seen this before you. These warranty companies will do whatever they
can to get out. And here's the thing, he is, Yeah,
a certain way you have to say if you say if you're describing to the failure of them and the wrong and you say the wrong thing also and they go up, Yep, that's not covered. So you've got to pick and
choose your words really carefully with when you're dealing with warranty companies, especially as an auto garage. Don't say anything like, don't try to elaborate on like
what's going on. You really have to stick to like the most basics and
not really talk because they'll find any reason not to cover things and then so here it is. It drives me nuts. Guys. The biggest thing with
warranty compans is they want you to tear it down to the point of failure.
Okay, but we're not on the hook to pay for that, is what they say. So the customer who has the warranty is on the hook
for the car, for the how much money it costs to tear it down to the point of failure to determine what it made fail at that point in time. If the warranty company decides that they're not going to cover that warranty,
then the customers on the hook for all that money that the labor hours that took to tear it down to that failure. But you can't give them
to tell you if they're going to cover it under warranty unless you tear it down to point of failure. It is literally the wolf guard in the henhouse.
It is. I hate it. I think it's the dumbest way.
Warranty is a warranty. Either going to warranty a product or you're not not.
Don't walk around right, Yeah, you tiptoe it around. It trying
to get people you know involved in it. It drives me nuts. And
that's what I worry about when we start introducing new cars into the market from different countries with warranties and how you know, them standing behind their products and stuff like the world right right right now, it's on the product exact they can get parts from them. What means we're going to get right, don't
even me started get parts right now on anything. It doesn't matter who mays
you didn't read a competition though, right, and so we seeing you know, car manufacturers you know, really cheap it out on some material wise and stuff. So I do think it's gonna be a good uh look on and
see like you know how manufacturers kind of compete with each other to stay you know, top top top tier, top tier, right top trender. I
mean at some point, though, who do you think is gonna win?
You know, because wins right because you know if someone you know tastes the crown and then so you have to like China is able to get a lot of the the good products for a cheaper price because they just manufacture it in such a bulk matter you know that they're able to get it cheaper than we really can at this point. Do you think that's gonna change that where our
car prices might go down, if they enter into the market, price will just go up there does match us? Yeah, that's why I said,
a breed competition, right, and so things will get hopefully you know, nicer and more robust and you know, easier access. I agree with you.
I like, I worry about the fact that when we introduce new things into a market, right, how that all pans out? Like I said,
the money side of things, the warranty side of things, Like I said, you can't get you can't get the Big three to stand behind all their stuff on warranties. Unfortunately, you just can't. I mean, doesn't
matter what you do, you just you just there's always something of oh well that's not covered, or we don't oh this failed this, here's the thing a warranty should cover regardless, like just the the year market and you just you gotta you gotta stand behind you guys product. I don't know how else
to put it. I got a whole nother subject on that that has to
do with warranties and stuff. But I gotta take quick commercial break and we'll
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back to your host, Dave Polach. Hey, guys, welcome back.
So first segment we were talking about all the different Chinese car stuff come in and how that might affect warnings and stuff like that. So I got something
completely different on the other spectrum warranties. If you guys, remember I have
been complaining for a couple of months now about I did the breaks of my truck. So I did my own breaks because I've done so I've done so
many breaks jobs in my lifetime. You get almost doing in your sleep,
right, Well, I get it all together. And I told you guys,
I had a squeak like I'm not perfect. I put things together sometimes
and I don't put together right. And as I told you, guys,
you've been following along, we've been kind of talking about this on and off for a couple of months. It just squeak. It just it's squeak,
it's squeal, whatever you want to call it. So I put it back
in the garage. I took it back apart. Now keep mind, I
got the trans am on the lift, so I'm having to do it as I hate on jack stands, because right now the trans am is taking up all the room on the lifts. So go ahead, and I take everything
apart. I go through it all. I look at everything. I find
nothing wrong. Okay, I mean, did you change the hardware out?
Yes, all new heart. I don't slack. I even put new slides
in it. I did everything I do real break jobs. When I mean
real break jobs. If you've never done your own break job, take care
of that for you, right. Oh, I know I could have where
you're going with that. So I went ahead and uh yeah, just in
case you don't want to do your own break job, which most of you guys don't. You guys listen for the comedy side and the and the entertainment
value, but make sure, you take your cars over to your r NAP, but auto garages, you know, seventeen different locations across Hanton Roads take it over there. But in this case, Dave decided to go ahead and
did not. Yeah, apparently it was an attempt. Apparently I wasn't successful.
I did it, like I said, all the breaks, and I instantly had a squeak. Within probably about like two or three days, I
started hearing squeak. It wasn't It wasn't like automatically. So I took everything
back apart, looked at everything. I didn't find anything wrong I did.
I didn't miss anything. Now I do. I can tell you guys on
a Chevy truck that the hardware tends to be a little funky on it sometimes.
Uh there's good hardware that's made really nice and thick, and there's some cheapy stuff I bought. I didn't buy all. I don't you guys know
I don't buy cheap things for my cars. We talked about this. I
buy, you know, I'm always buying the most expensive But I'm sure enough, usually in the middle of the road. But when it comes to my
truck, it always gets the most expensive stuff put on it. I just
I'm just weirried about my truck. So I checked everything I took. I
literally took when I think, I took it all back apart, guys.
I took the caliber back off of it, the caliber bracket back off.
I took all the hardware off. I took the roder off, I took
the break, I took everything off of it, inspected everything all the way around the truck again, put it back on. About two days Boom,
Squeak come back. I'm like something, so I got to irritate it.
Took it back apart again, threw away the brand new brake pads that I had bought for it, and they were I didn't buy junk pads. I
bought nice pads and put a new set of brick pads on it. Okay,
Squeak was gone for a couple of days, came back again, and it's been driving driving me nuts. I mean, I taken it back apart
again and looked at everything to make sure, made sure. I thought I
was pretty sure it was the hardware hold on. So I was pretty sure
it was the hardware that was making the noise, because I just no, I've done enough. Chevvy trucks, and I know the problem the hardware,
So I literally took it back apart again, threw the hardware away, and put a new hardware kid in it. A couple of days go by and
it starts squeaking again. I'm like, that's it. Well, I made
the decision yesterday, and I know this is hard, but I bring this up because there's there's a reason for bringing it up. First of all,
it's you guys know, I took everything off the truck through in the trash yesterday, like everything. I just all that new parts, all went to
the tracks started again, break paths. I threw the roaders away. I
threw all the you know, the break paths. Probably I just I don't
know. I just I was over it. So I just took it and
threw it in the trash can. Now I put all new stuff on it.
I bought all brand new stuff again and put it on it. And
it hasn't made a noise yet, hasn't been it's two days. It hasn't
been no because I just didn't yesterday. But I started thinking about this and
garages that you take your car to for auto repair and stuff. Garages face
this issue all the time, and so what do you do customer satisfaction?
Right? We want to take care of you as a customer, right,
But you're chasing, you know, we as garages chase these problems, and I know the customer gets upset because they believe it's got to be something we did. I'm telling you I've done. It's got to be thousands of break
jobs in my career. I mean just I just had, like I said,
I can literally do it in my sleep, so I knew it wasn't any like you start to like doubt yourself. You're like, man, what
did I do wrong? You know what I mean? No, no,
no groovy, no, nothing perfect. The only thing I saw that would
even make me go, and it wasn't even the wheel that was making the squeal was the back right. I saw just a little bit of heating on
the roador on the back roader, but that's normal for those big trucks.
That's the only thing I saw. So now you could, if you could
give advice to our viewers that's listening at home to not have this happen where we had to replace the brake pads three different times, you know, and then go towards the equipment, What would you recommend for somebody like me or viewers? Here's the thing, So here's here's here's kind of what aggravated me
about it. Imagine you're the auto garage and you've done this for a customer.
The customer keeps on bringing the car back going it is still squealing, and you know it's an auto garage. You've done everything right, You've looked
everything. What do you do, like, do you do exactly what I
did yesterday and find just throw your hands in the air and throw it all away. Because by the way, that's where the warranty side comes in,
right, So you have to convince. As an autogarage, you got to
convince your part supplier that there's something even though you can't see anything physically wrong, there's something wrong. I know there's something wrong. I can tell you
there's something wrong with the product I got. It has to be because for
me to put it on and I drove it, not aggressively yesterday, but enough to try to get everything heat up to see if it was gonna squal and it didn't squeal. Now I could tell you on the old stuff that
if I drove it, you know aggressively. I could get it to make
the noise before the two day period that it normally would take for it.
Now, hardware is not like scraping out hard I looked hardwork. No scrapes
on the hardway. When I say I looked at everything. Trust can think
about it. I took it apart and through things aside and puts on it
several times as it's together. There's there's something in the parts that I got
and even in the replacement. Maybe it wasn't the pads, because like I
said, replace the pads, and I did replace the I will. I
did go replace the one front rotor under warranty that was making that I thought where the noise was coming because I'm a little deaf, guys, and I'm actually deaf in one ear, but so and unfortunately the side that's making the squeel noise is on the deaf ear. So I'm like driving, I'm like,
you know, you're trying to pinpoint with this year and think it's coming from that side as you're driving. But it was definitely coming from the right
hand side. So I went replace that front rotor under warranty as well.
I took it back to our manfay, hey, something's wrong. Put it
on it and it would go away. I'm thinking, this is what I
think. I know, this is gonna sound weird. I think they got
a bad set of like rotors, they got a bad set of pads and like in production. Is what I'm thinking, because what I did was I
went with a completely different manufacturer this time around. Except when I say I
threw everything away, I'm not kidding. I literally he took the rotors,
I took the brake pads, I took the hardware off, and I literally just threw it in the junk pile. I mean, it's just gonna go.
And it's you know, it's a couple on my side of things.
You know, it's probably about three hundred dollars worth of stuff I threw away, but I just couldn't take the noise anymore. And then, like I
said, I start thinking about it as an auto garage and you've done it, and we do the work and the customer has the same complaint. Is
that the same move? Is that what you do to take care of the
customer, And that's a big you know, customer relations and people being happy with their stuff is a really big thing. I mean you ring into the
counter and you pull the WD forty out and you're like, you just prayed this a couple of times a day every day. Here here's a free Canada
WD forty to go with your break job. Right, So but do you,
like do you? Is that what you do? I mean, like
I think people were saying, just just go get some break grease and put it on there. This or work. Look, look, okay, hold
on, hold on, I've put the brake quiet. I ain't get alive,
but I put the break quiet on just to see if it make the speel go away. I ain't gonna lie. I did try it as the
last ditch effort about a week ago. I didn't put I did take it
apart and put some break quiet on it. And just for anybody that knows
what I'm talking about, it didn't work. This week was still there,
so that didn't even solve it. I'm I'm thinking, I really, guys,
I'm thinking they got a bad batch of roads and a bad batch of pads, bad bad batch of sup theme not just one, but a bad batch of them. Because it except I changed things and the noise was still
there. I like I said, I've now threw it away and I put
a different manufacturer on there, and was it a tight and everything, and I checked tolerances, I checked it all. This is this is what aggravates.
This is autigarages too, right, guys, because you know we've done we do these things over and over again to take care of you guys as customers and stuff. But we know, I mean, it's a break job.
It's not. This doesn't It doesn't. I don't mean a downplay,
but it does definitely doesn't take rocket science to do a break job. Right.
So when you're like literally taking like when when you get to the point where you're aintal like I am, and you're looking up where the tolerance is on a roador should be trying to find it online so you can go mike it to see if you know what I mean, that's when you know it's really driving you crazy. And I was at that point even then like a
little private id the wrongs I did. Of course I did think about it.
I bet I did everything. I bet the progs. I even took
the bracket. The last ditch effort in two as well is the hardware.
I snipped the hardware back where bends over. I slipped, so I knew
it couldn't touch. I took my snippers to sip it back. Just a
scene, and now I can say he replaces breaks more than I do than I just I was going through the situation, I just start thinking about on the auto garage side, things like, as the auto garage, you're stuck in the same situation. I mean, like you literally have to take everything
off and just throw it aside and start and scratch with all new parts.
The one way you're gonna be able to help the customer. Well, like
you said, go away, it took you two days to recognize that.
So as an auto garage, for the auto garage that's trying to get that customer back there, and think how upset that customer. And then the customers
already upset that they had to leave the car again and again. Now we're
not even at the again, mad that they had to leave it for the day, and the auto shop is trying everything that they can do. Sometimes
customer doesn't believe that, yep. And then they do everything they can do,
knowing that they did everything right. And then two days later the customer
comes back even more angry. And then the shop's over there sending, well,
we did everything right, we can possibly be right right, and you are frustrated. You are as a shop, all you want to do is
take care of the customer, and you're frustrated when you can't find what the issue is. Right. So it's just one of those things where you're just
like you. It's like what do I do? Like I said, for
me, it was throw it all away? And it was hard. It's
hard to take three hundred dollars for the parts and just throw it in the trash that you know, we're new, they're only two months old. I'm
gonna have to ask some of our shops and everybody's like, why don't you just box it back up and take it in for warm. I don't have
any of the boxes for that stuff anymore. And you know what, And
I probably could have forced my hand with the part supplier and said, look, you know, I mean you all need to do something. I just
I didn't care at that point. I was just so over it. The
noise. I can't stand and be I'll give you a perfect example. So
my truck made a rattle last week for two days, like it rattled.
No, no, it wasn't a break, was the value smarty, but it was making a rattle, and I'm like, what in the world is that noise? I'm driving it. Every day i'm driving, I hear this
little rattle. I took everything out of the center console. I took everything
out to try any of the rattle was steering there. I couldn't figure out.
And I was frustrated because I can't stand a vehicle making any noise.
I'm driving and I go to grab my sun visor because the sun was in my face and my sunglasses weren't blocking out enough. And I as I go
to grab the visor, I realized that the garage door openers turned just a little bit on my visor and I'm like and I looked at it. I
was like, huh. And I go click and the vibe, the rattling
noise goes away, and I'm like, oh, you gotta be kidney, because it's been two days. The clip would like turn and it was touching
where the mirror is at. You you you hit something, that little clip
would rattle against where the mirror is at. But once again, I'm deaf
in one ear, guys, so you know, for me trying to pinpoint it. But I had somebody riding the vehicle too with me, and I
was like you he like, yeah, hear it. I don't know where
that's coming from. So it wasn't just me. This is one of those
things I told you guys, I can't stand noises. I guess three hundred
dollars worth of not standing noises. Everything's in the trash and on the vehicle
isn't making any noise. You guys, tell me what you guys would do.
I don't know that's me was the right thing to do. Throw it
away, start from scratch. I gotta take quick mercial break. When I
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You're automotive specialist. Now back to your host Dave Polach. Hey,
guys, welcome back. So you know It's kind of funny, you know.
Rainy days are always like the crazy days of the radio show because I always think about, like all the different car shows it could be happening.
And we're definitely getting too that season. It's coming quick. It's coming quick,
it is, which I'm excited about. But I hope this year that
we can get away from like events not being stacked on top of each other as much, because that was like the biggest problem last year. You know.
I see a lot of the requests have come through to us this year to tend stuff, and I'm looking at all the dates. I see we're
kind of starting to fall into that again. And I love car shows.
I like hanging out with people. I enjoyed that all the friends that we
made and stuff like that. It's a great time and it's you know and
stuff. But it it it kind of sucks when, like, you know,
two people that you normally would want to go to their things put things in the same day and you can't. You trying to forget how to get
Yeah, you know what I mean. It's divide it, you know,
as a car commute. And the thing about it is so car shows and
stuff and I bring this up because I saw a lot of stuff in the news about car shows and these meats and how a lot of them are getting still getting busted and all that kind of stuff, and you know, there's there's a lot of stuff going on with that, and you know, then I see the talks with inside the groups going Okay, well, Night Moves was last week, so I was gonna ask you, so it's funny took.
Yeah, I'll put my input on it. So Night Moves was last
week. It was last Saturday when after the show and everything, and I
was going to attend it, but then I started thinking, you know, let me not attend the first one, and it seems like nothing really changed everybody kind of look, the group's amazing. The Night Moves group is amazing
on how they handled their event. But like we always talk about control everybody,
we can't control the people after the event, you know. So every
the event went perfect, like they ready burnouts just read. After everybody left
the event or the event started to close down, the one place people went back to and I'm waiting for them to make a post about it. I
know it's coming, But everybody went back to freedom, you know, And I think that We've just talked about Freedom so many times and how they're just tired in our area. In our area Freedom Freedom car Wash, a lot
of people just kind of do like pop up get together, pop up meets, and then they have a backlot that everybody goes to and just kind of tears up their lot just a little bit. And Freedom's asked us not to
do that, and I just I want. I want that. It's like
a It's a double edged sword though, right, isn't it, because you know a lot of people go to Freedom and like and there's places so I have people reach out all the time. They're like, hey, can you
guys help us set up an event here at our thing. We're like,
well, of course they want to step the event I mean, only wrong because they want they want it to be at like their bar, their tavern or whatever. So people come in and spend money there and stuff like that.
So it's it is the double edged sword. You are inviting all of
that to your place to try to generate more income for your business. At
the same point in time, it comes with all the hooligansiness that comes with And trust me, I go to events and I take expensive vehicles there but I'm not out there tearing up my cars, you know what I mean at the event. Now, don't be wrong. I like speed, I like
smokey burnouts and stuff like that. I'm not gonna tell you I don't,
but I'm not gonna go out there and tear my stuff up at the event and try to attract the wrong attention to me. So we can't write or
anybody else's stuff. So we can't, you know, continue to do this.
You know, one of the events that we do here in Hampton Roads over at Lanstown Common, it's been going on for you know, quite a while. There's a lot of good people and stuff like there, but it
is tam and I'll say that with it being tamed, a lot of people don't come because they feel like there's too many rules and it's too tamed.
So then of course you have that double edged sword, right, So there's real right, but you know you're trying to get you know, you're trying to get it and fill it with people, and you want it because we're trying to build that community. Right, We're all interested in the same thing.
It does. I don't care what you drive. If you drive something
expensive, you drive something you're building whatever it is, rather be a Honda, you know, any type of or you know it be lowered. It's
not lowered. It's look got a drag exture. Look, we all have
the same intentions, which is to build the car community. And I keep
talking about this over and over again, and a lot of the forms and stuff like it doesn't really make because you know people like, oh, well, blah blah blah blah blah blah and blah blah blah insert your stupidness here whatever, that's what that means, you know, defending actions of others and stuff. I'm like, look, we just keep on getting run off,
you know what I mean, Like you're gonna get run off from all the different places you try to put this at because people think they want that volume of people at their business, and then they realize what it comes with.
They go, oh, was this worth? It is the juice? You
know, worth the sweeping? What comes? Do you feel like though,
we can still organize an event where we can still do those burnout those drifts, you know, but if it was just organized it used to be.
And that's like why I'm like, why doesn't our city just bring it back right now? You guys don't know what we're talking about. Here in Virginia
Beach, we used to have the uh was it muscle on the Muscle on the beach or whatever it was. We're I can't know where they actually it
was on the beach something. So they used to do the car show out
at the ocean front and we had a burnout box and the fire department helped with it all and stuff so they could do burnouts. They did all that
stuff and it was a really cool event to do and then it just went away. Uh. I have for years been pushing to try to get that
event to come back. I would really wish we could bring that event back,
but it's gonna take the community, the car community, for all us to come together to go sit down with the city and try to figure out how we can bring that event back. It's a really cool event. Like
I said, for those man, if you want to do burnouts and me judge to win a trophy and stuff like that, by all means, let's do it. Let's find a way to do it so it's safe like they
did. Because back then they put up like the little little concrete jersey walls
and stuff and then they had a crowd you could watch and all kinds of stuff and they voted and they you know, it was it was a cool event. We don't have anything like that around here right this second. We
need it. They don't have to be at the end, they don't have
to be at the ocean front. But it was cool because it was an
ocean front setting. If you guys ever been to Patriotic Festival when it was
out the ocean front, it's kind of like that. It's like a big
patrioticfests. Everybody's out on the ocean front. There's vendors everywhere selling all kinds
of stuff, which I believe is very important to mingle into the car community.
Right. I do wish we brought like cruising down the strips again,
cruising down the street in six sorry, because you know what I'm saying is like those don't let me use my red button today, right like, no, I I get I'm cruised. So did you see the video did you
see like the little video was going around this week about man I missed the eighties and it was everybody cruising around in the cars in the eighties, like on the strips and stuff like that. I remember this. I'm gonna date
myself lit. But a lot of you guys listening to the show or same
age as I am. The irock t top camaros. I literally can remember
there being four girls sitting up on top of the t tops of those camaros while someone drove and it was someone sitting down inside the sea and the back seat was full of people. You know, you put twelve people in an
I rock, but everybody was sitting on the roof while you cruised on the strip and nobody was going, we're trying to pull you over, you know, being for having people hang out of the car because you're come on now, yeah, well yeah, actually yeah, it would be about time I saw the man. I saw the TikTok guy and he's like, you can't
sum in a generation with one song. And he's like, and he praised
a song. No he wasn't. So I told you guys. So I
grew up on the on the West Coast, and maybe I know cruising was popular. Here was my first got station here. Eybody used to cruise down
at the ocean front here, but not like we cruised on the West Coast that I see it happen here now we we cruised here, don't we were wrong? The West Coast was insane. I mean just absolutely insane with cruising.
We cruised Las Vegas Strip. I mean that's where I grew up at.
I was grew up in Vegas and we I mean there was four hundred cars out on the Las Vegas Strip full of teenagers and everybody hanging out of it and the police weren't pulling you over. You had, like I said,
you had people sitting up on the roof, like up on the roof of the t top of the car going down the strip and to stop anywhere on the strip and do something the better. The pickup trucks were full of
people. I mean that was just and everybody cruise. That's what you did.
You knew you were cruising on a Friday or Saturday night. The strip
was full of people. That's just what you were doing. And you brought
out your best machine and that's what And here's the thing. It wasn't just
kids like you had adults that brought out their coolest cars they had. They
were in the cruise and crew around and it was just a big car show all the time. You got to see cool cars. We don't do that
anymore. Maybe we should. I don't know. I don't even know what
even made it stop, but I know it was cool. I mean like
I miss it. I'm not I like going to car shows. I don't
mind sitting around looking at cars, but I really do like to go to car shows where there is a cruise near where they can cruise. There's something
going on, right, they can just cruise set up like there's just you know, a bunch of just you know, companies set up producing you know, like showing off their products right cruising or you know, burnout, you know, Pitts wise, just something that you look at cars. That's what
I said, you know, I said forever you need to combine, like let people sell things. I don't care, crafts, whatever things you're building,
you building things out of wood, whatever. Let them come set up
boosts along the car mixed in with the car shows and give people something to do other than just stare at cars for four hours. And you'll you know
what I mean. Look, I'm a car guy. I'm a car guy,
right, I'm like, once I walk the cars, I've seen them, give me something else. You let me, yeah, let me,
let me. Let me Uh, let me process a little bit and go
look at some stuff to buy and then go back to maybe looking at some of the cars. I don't know, me, I just that's how things
were, Dodges. I can only look at churches for so long. He's
talking about going on va we go on vacation. Okay, So we're on
vacation. I'm like, hey, you know, and you're in some island,
you know what I mean. I'm like, I'm like, man,
I want to go check out this church. You know I heard, you
know, from like the seventeen hundreds. He's like, yeah, but Dad,
you can only stare at a church for so long. I'm like,
I'm like cool, Okay, So I get some four wheelers and we four wheelers were just kind of have the cruise on by that make it me?
Oh, that'll make it better. All right, Well, I guess that's
how we're going to go see the church. Then, So the only way
Dad gets to go see a church and old church, which we got to do it on four wheelers, you know what I mean. But we were
running that city with those four running the city. We had people on their
side street going. We did find a good daker replace though we did find
this dacor replace in the middle of nowhere and you made great. Yeah.
Yeah, let's tell Cars Radio placards up on the wall. We stapled it
up before we left. So I'm just saying, like, the car shows
are cool. I love it. Like I said, I love the people
more than anything else. I enjoy hanging out with people. I like seeing
cool cars. But I think the way everybody's like, how do we keep
this going? And I think the way to keep it all going is to
interaction, integrate it all, all that kind of stuff. It's it's just
absolutely one of those things that I love. The market idea that they were
doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the market. I see there's one
coming up right now that we have coming up within inside our group, and it's gonna be a flea market attached to it. Stuff like that. So
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back to your host, Dave Polach, Hey, guys, welcome back.
How many times have I said that the off hind line camera needs to see like we need to have the offline camera for the conversation. But some of
those conversations I feel like we get in trouble by we're we're discussing some like the old eighties movies and stuff because we're obviously cruising is with being the last topic and some of the stuff that they had in the old movies. Some
of the really a lot of John Hughes movies, they they don't know, they definitely don't make movies because like the things they got away with and the stuff they showed like that was natural. Like steal stealing your parents' car at
the driveway was like in almost every eighties movie. It happened like like right,
and then you jump out the windows steal their car all the driveways like it happened to so many of the movies. And then we're like we're talking
about here, like you couldn't do that now, Like you'd like when you got caught, like or the police pulled you over, you'd be in jail, like you know, back in the old day, the police just bring you back to the house and drop you off to your parents. That don't
happen no more. You go to jail, they call you and they say,
hey, you gotta wait for the bails bond in the morning. And
no, I mean like, but but they promoted it so many things.
Car related stuff, uh with instance and cars doing things in cars, wrecking cars was so like promoted like in all the eighties movies. If you look
at a lot of the eighties movies. Uh, you'll see that. It's
crazy when you think about it, how many like in they got like a beer sitting in in the cup holder while they're drive and around, you know what I mean, Like it was, it's in a lot of eighties movies.
It's by the way, I was listening to the country song the other day, it's it's it's even in some of the newer country songs from from like their generation where people haven't the right the same thing, and I'm just like but like in the eighties, it was like it was big. I
remember a lot of people, even as long as I'm not saying my parents, but I remember people's parents like had like a mix it was. They
went everywhere the mixed drink and a cup with them, you know what I mean, Like like you go, hey, uh, Pillo needs a ride home, and you know, my friend's dad like all right, hold on, and he go get his keys, and he'd be walking to the You didn't think anything of it. You know, that's a mixed drink. He's
got his hand and he's get in the car from a couple of let's go.
As Nate was saying that y'all's generation did it, But then you guys want to yell at us. You're running. It's funny you say that because
it was our generation that lived it, and now it's our generation that's prosecuting those that are trying to still live like that, which is just that's like, you know what I mean, you guys have your but we can't.
No, it's what it is. But we laugh about it. But I'm
being serious. It was that was typical behavior in the eighties, like like
a parents drinks. I wish the times were like the old time, right,
we're trying to make it like the old times, and you're yelling at us, But you guys like find the weirdest things to grab and try to pull in. You know, it's not you don't want to grab you guys,
don't try to grab all the cool stuff. You guys grab like the
most ornate thing and try to drag it into the future. I'm like,
and that's what you chose to bring in. We didn't want to bring the
hookey pokey with us. Hey, you turn yourself around. No, But
I'm just I find it funny that when you go back through all the eighties movies, and stuff how it is. You're right, the stuff that's promoted
propaganda even like I said, and all the crazy stuff like kids did with cars in those movies what they are today. Do you think we can get
back to that and it would be just as equally popular. There's too many
restrictions, Yeah, to a certain degree. I be like, there's a
lot of restrictions. Wise is up, but no movies are unrestricted as can
be. Now, come on, it have to be tailored, right,
because a lot of these movies are tailored to You know, you guys can curse in shows that are on TV. Now, we couldn't do that,
like you guys curse on regular don't you see that? Like the dark lines
you guys can drop in movies that we can't drop in movies about it?
You know, most people don't realize it's a dark line, Like people don't realize that there's literal Yeah, it goes right over most people says like I grab it. I don't grab all of them. I'm not that slick,
but I grab a lot of them. Or they're like I'll be watching a
movie and there's something dropped in and like two seconds later, I'm like, oh, I wouldn't be like, oh that was sneaky they dropped that in there like that. But no, I just think I've said it before.
We need good old I hate saying old fashioned creative car movies that were done where it's teenagers and cars and maybe that will spark the car community. Really
is like like in something more than the realism, right. I think I
have a movie A man, I had a movie idea that I've had for years. I think it would be a really great car movie that I think
a lot of people would go see. I don't know what makes me just
keep on thinking about it. And I literally to the point where I jopped
down like little notes and like, oh, that would be a good scene you can be I'm just saying it's like now I minced my calling on that one, but it is. I justly think we need, you know,
good car movies. I'll say. One of the things was a lot of
stuff that's promoted in some of the old movies when it comes around to cars is like I said, is a lot of drinking and cars and they mix and stuff like that. Before we came on the air today, we were
talking about the story about the guy there's a guy who passed what ten bro ten bread linen and they still charged them with DUI. Yeah, so he
got tested eight times in the field because of blue triple zeros stuff, still thought he was intoxicated, so they brought him in for you know, for their analysis, or he brought an expert in. They did two more times
and they still blew triple zeros and they charged him. Ye see, so
it almost like prove a lot. We've already talked about it, like you
are guilty, guilty, guilty, So people go well with you know, breath lies, just so you all know, but that's what the breathalyzers are not always accurate and it's proven. Go look right, pull up all the
documentation on breathalyzers. Well he did four on his breath liser, and then
he took another officer's breath lizer to do four more attempts on somebody else's just to see his broken right. But that's what they deem as like the conclusion,
right is no, no, I got it. I guess my irritation
with it all is. And you guys know it's not an anti police conversation
for me. It's just not it's it's a factual what on, what goes
on and what I feel is right kind of conversation. Breathalyzers like you can
find all kinds stuff. Where like breath layers being fifteen percent inaccurate, they
can also be fifty percent. It can be fifty to fifty depending on who's
administering it because they can be manipulated. Now, police are not supposed to
because they're supposed to be above board, but there is ways to manipulate.
If you go and we'll do all the look at all the research, you can make it manipulate in ups and downs. Because you use it on a
regular basis, you know its faults and what it does is like anything else that's taking a radar gun way right, it's anything that you use it's going to be electronic or anything like that. You know it has faults, so
you know how to manipulate those faults to your advantage. So that turns it
from being a fifteen percent failure on its own to drop it into fifty to fifty because depends on how I administer it. And I'm not saying people out
there, police officer out there, every single police officer out there is corup.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying eight in the field all
come negative, and you still haul the guy in. Well, have to.
Then you do two, Then you do two at the police station, which are more advanced tests that come out negative. It's ten tests and you
go, I don't care what the tests say. I still think this guy's
drunk. Let's prosecute for being rung. Their test is based on observation and
how they believe that you're doing something. It is has the walked. Okay,
so let me just tell you for bets backwards that nobody knows I do.
But here's I practiced that one for a long long time when I was younger. But I'll tell you I'll fail a bunch of the tests if you
give me a bunch of those tests, because I have migraines and stuff like that. I'm a fail the eye test. You shine anything bright in my
eye and start having me try to do an eye test stuff like that and fall, I'm gonna fail. I already have jitteratiness in the eyes. And
I has to do with with neurological. Neurological, you know what I'm saying
him right, Yes, he's right. In this second, he has to
do with that. I'm going to fail the walk test. Why, because
of the military I got hurt and destroyed my ankles, so I walk with a limp naturally, so I can't do the walk test. I can't do
the stand on the one fleck, even though you're gonna ask me to do it. I'm gonna fail that. So that's two of the tests I already
failed on my own evening and on the side of the road. Everybody says
they have something wrong with them, that's just what they say. So when
I say I'm not helping my case and now I'm not, when I say, Officer, I'm not gonna be able to do that because I He's like, he's heard it a thousand times from people. Yeah right, I've heard
right. I swear I'm not resisting. So you get seriously, you get
stuck in that situation. I'm like, so I'm gonna fail. Let's just
go to jail because I know I'm gonna fail those two. So if you
have that, and then now you can manipulate the the you know, blood alcohol analyzer. There you go. I mean, and I'm not saying once
again, er right right, I'm not right zero zero zero This guy blew ten out of ten zero zeros and still got charged. Something's wrong with the
system. It is broken. I don't care what you say. And I'm,
like I said, I not saying everybody's corrupt. I'm just saying it
is a broken system. I am tired of being guilty and to proven myself
innocent when it comes to anything that involves in a car. I just,
I just I don't like it. I don't like It's an icky feeling,
especially for somebody who goes around and tries to I'm look, I'm not right just by any mean, but I do try to live a pretty basic, basic life where I'm not trying to draw any attention to myself unwanted attention to myself. Right, So then when you get yourself that you're trying to help
yourself as much as you can, but that could also hurt you. You're
not trying to hurt yourself so much, but that could also hurt you as well. When me, when when me say me that goes ahead and does
everything I think I'm supposed to do to keep myself safe from getting myself in bad situation, and I get pulled over, and I'm a little if you want to when of the red and blues go off, something's wrong because I know I'm like, man, you ain't got nothing on me, but all of a sudden, when I kind of my but hoole puckers a little bit when you pull me over, we need to change something. That's all I'm
saying. I'm just like Sir full body Cabins, but I'm just saying,
there, obviously there's something wrong. You, guys, tell me what you
think is there's something wrong? Is everything going all right? I don't know.
I don't believe it is. I believe that if ten breathalyzers you pass
and they're still trying to get you for drunk driving, something is wrong in this world. You can agree with me, you can disagree with you.
You tell me what you think. I just send your time. I'm losing
faith, guys, losing just a little bit of faith, a little bit at a time. Though I got you, but it took that long to
get there. It's just you're guilty. You can't do anything. They got
you. You're guilty. As a matter what you say, you're guilty.
And I hate that feeling of knowing you can't do anything other than just sit there. And chew it, and it's a big, big load of fat
you're chewing on. On that note, guys, I gotta go ahead and
get out of here. I can't believe the show's gone by so fast.
I hope you guys are enjoying your day where you're at, maybe where you guys are listening. It's sunny here, it's not. It's pouring down rain.
So uh do what you do. Sunday's right around the corner. Make
sure you unplug, spend some time with your kids, playboard game with him.
They'll love you for it. Hire their cell phones in the cushions,
so it works. You guys, got anythingfore we get out here. Enjoy
a weekend. Jury your weekend. We're out here and we'll talk to you
all soon.
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