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hello and welcome to this car pod I'm
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Ken I'm fipa and today we have a lot of
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great stuff to talk about starting with
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the biggest thing of all we've launched
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a new video series where we've all
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bought cars me Ken and filipo and our
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friend Nick yeah and we're going to do
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fun things with them for a few videos
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the very first video is live right now
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and there will be two more where we do
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challenges and other craziness we are
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doing Top Gear here at the cars and bids
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office and in the desert and in the
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desert which you will see now the reason
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for the video series is we've just
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launched a new merch line I'm wearing
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some filipo is not but other people will
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and if you buy our merch you can be
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registered to win one of the cars from
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The Challenge you can pick the winner
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will pick the Corvette the car they want
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no one will pick the Corvette but yes
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you you can go to merch carsbids.com for
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a lot more details and all the rules on
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the contest merch docar and bids.com no
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purchase necessary void we prohibited
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nice well done well done but at the end
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of the challenge at the end of our merch
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giveaway the winner will be able to pick
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one of the cars except for NX which he
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personally owns can't have that one you
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got to pick one of the other ones uh and
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you're going to pick the M5 probably uh
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that's our video series and it's very
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exciting and there's going to be a few
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more and you should watch and
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participate and play along at
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home okay onto the news stories give us
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the first one all right Lucid teased on
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social media that they had so you know
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how like police departments do testing
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to figure out their next Pursuit vehicle
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uh Lucid has entered that competition
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and they were they're part of the
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testing for the next pursued vehicle in
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California I think right uh and the
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Lucid air is one of them it's odd cuz
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the Lucid is an expensive car well it's
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gotten cheaper plus lease deals I don't
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know I don't think you can lease a
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police they like drill holes I know but
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they could probably make a deal I think
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lucid's looking for sales Lucid also
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that looks good it does look good I'll
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give you that I think a lot of cars
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would look good as police vehicles
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however that doesn't necessarily mean
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they would be a good police it's a tool
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at the end of the day it's one of the
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longest range EVS it's got a large back
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seat yeah that's all you need yeah
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$125,000 no the the air pure like 70 now
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okay but what's a what's a charger I
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assume also said I don't know I don't
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much I think you're assuming wrong I
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think the charger is less like how much
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like Ford expl like a $50,000 car
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presuming the pursuit vehicle is also a
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50 $60,000 car well yeah but that after
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they add stuff but when they add stuff
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to this it's also going to be expensive
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at least it's got deep dish steelies I
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know that looks so cool anyway I think
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the whole thing is unusual I will say
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are we thinking that this is a
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desperation play from Lucid is that what
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we Ian yep it's it's questionable but it
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does look cool and it that post probably
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performed great on Instagram a story for
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you I went to Canada to film a collab
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with this Canadian Tech YouTuber lonus
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techs and very wellknown Tech YouTuber I
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don't know if you know him you don't
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want you don't know anything about
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building the PC me and Kenan we time
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done it in the fast anyway so I was
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showing him the website and I showed him
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because we were talking about electric
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cars and I was showing him Lucid air
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results and how cheap they are and he
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goes no offense but if this is all that
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your website is getting for these cars
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why would anyone want to use your
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website to sell a car and I was like you
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don't understand this is what they're
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worth that's what they all sell for
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pretty good result actually yeah so
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needless to say the Lucid air demand has
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not been huge I think that they are
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hoping that they can be supported by
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many police departments around the
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country by the way I should put a little
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caveat here elci demand has been bad the
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cars are tanking in value I love them I
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think they're awesome so good they're
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just really expensive for what they are
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and no one really wants to but as a
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police car with steelies looks great
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they use laser is their like Lane
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guidance thing that sets off the radar
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detector on the E39 and5 all the time
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really it goes off and there's laser in
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a place where it wouldn't be like it's a
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lucid and then boom there it is lucid
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every time so it would continue to go
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off but this time it actually would be
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laser that' be so problematic um can I
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say one thing about other police cars
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yeah all right you you know how the
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charger for a long time was the police
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car of choice yeah all right charger was
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disc continued last year yeah there are
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still 5,000 Chargers and Challengers on
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dealer Lots yeah fun fact they stop
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production a year ago wow wow rough
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situation yeah there will be a new
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charger theoretically then of this year
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the charger EV will be out out you know
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we were the story we were told was that
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the car was tremendously popular and
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they were only discontinuing it due to
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restrictions the 5,000 of them yeah
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doesn't sell that's not a huge amount
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that they sell they stopped production a
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year ago yeah wow is that include TR
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Challenger yeah but sell them some of
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the most some of those are demons that
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they haven't been titled at still on MSO
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right true 12 of them are demons that
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have not been titled still on MSO I will
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say there was news this week that uh
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Dodge is moving up the launch of the gas
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powered charger there initially their
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plan was to launch the EV at the end of
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this year so December and then the gas
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one next December now they're moving it
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to early summer for the gas one
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hurricane powered yeah um I'm not
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surprised to hear that I think the
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reality of the situation is simply that
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electric cars are having the impact that
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they were intended to have um we talked
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about last week probably even less so
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going forward yeah so that's not really
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all that surprising I don't find 5,000
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still on dealer lots to be that huge of
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a deal they're going to be fine they'll
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sell them you and me will get one
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okay move on to the next news oh this
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news St did you see this this is all
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over everything there's a Chrysler Dodge
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Jeep dealership apparently in Kentucky
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that when a Viper the Viper was new the
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original Viper was new they just put one
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on their sign in front and then they've
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since uh they periodically remove it you
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know to like clean it and make it nice
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again and they've done that this week
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and so they there were pictures of it
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with like rats nest yeah infested all
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over the interior like but it's going to
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be down for a few months while they kind
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of fix it up and then they put it are
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they putting it back up yeah they are
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now couple interesting things go back to
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the shot this sign is not compliant this
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Chrysler so this dealership clearly is
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kind of doing their own thing obviously
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because they have to call out Scott's
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crane service to take a Viper off the
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sign you think they call Scott and he's
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like yep I I was there eight years ago
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when we did it i'm we'll do it again the
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irony of course is that Dodge no longer
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sells any cars yeah so well they got the
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they got 5,000 challengers in char
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800 of them here at uh at this
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dealership anyway uh this was an
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interesting story it was odd to me that
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they threw wheels on it yeah that is an
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interesting move a lot of people put
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aftermarket wheels on original vipers
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because they the tire size it became
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hard to find tires but that's not really
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a problem with it for this car it's not
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really in motion you know the birds
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don't mind the date codes are expired
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date codes are old yeah anyway so that's
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an interesting situation uh filipo any
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comment no only that you forgot to
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mention Ram as one of the brands at the
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dealership CER Dodge Jeep Ram Maserati
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presumably they have all the Fiat
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whenever Fiat decides they want to sell
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a car in the United States well they
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they hope to yeah it's a tough situation
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but how many people you think this
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brought in how many Neons did this sell
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back in the day that there was a Viper
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on the sign outside so many so many
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interesting worth every penny this is
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advertising interesting use of halo car
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put it literally above people
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well if remember the Audi R8 brought
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people into dealers and they bought a4s
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boom yeah got Neons probably equally
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successful on the sign as just it
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existing beautiful situation okay next
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news sty please ah yes Cadillac has
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announced a new electric SUV called the
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vitique yep now Cadillac I I do find it
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interesting they've decided to go back
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to naming their cars yeah um which
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Lincoln pioneered and by pioneered I
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mean they started doing it two years ago
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uh but Cadillac has decided they're
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going to stop with the ct6 ct8 CT F and
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all their electric cars seem to be have
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names like visti and celesti and they
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all have q's and Escalade IQ which it
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should be Escalade it should be squa it
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really should be anyway I don't about
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this car and I don't know if they
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released any details and even if they
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did obviously we wouldn't remember it's
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an electric car it's like it looks like
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it's XTS sized cute cute but yeah yeah I
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will tell you this looks good the
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Cadillac T6 is a midsize sport utility
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vehicle call XTS oh my goodness they've
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been manufacturing for five or six years
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now it's generally agreed to be middle
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of the road not a high quality vehicle
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however I think it's beautiful looks
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great here is an electric version of it
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essentially it's like the same overall
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this looks like a nice car the lyc looks
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weird I the lyric looks kind of weird
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but it looks good and the light
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treatment is excellent if you see one at
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night it looks so Co it does look nice
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this looks nice this does look nice I
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legitimately think it's one of
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Cadillac's best designs yeah is a little
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bit much does like a little more
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restrain a little classier right yeah no
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I think this looks good the Escalade IQ
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especially is a little bit much it's big
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and gaping okay long time ago you sent
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me a photo of one around I have not seen
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a single one since I saw one in July and
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here we are in November it's not on sale
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and San Diego is a great barometer for
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that because we get everything that's
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new and like except for particular one I
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saw in net but it had manufacturing
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plates it wasn't a it wasn't a you seen
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I don't think it's for sale I don't it's
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no it's still not on the market uh it's
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a slow roll out but anyway I think that
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at the very least that this looks cool
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hard on EVS they be question celesti
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with theque Now isn't there a little one
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there is one a little one announce that
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I don't remember what it's called but
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it's something with a Q they're going
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hard any the market is not every lyric I
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see is a Uber black do you agree it's
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all esid and it's all no every lyric
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every lyric I'm so sorry yeah no there's
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a few in our neighborhood that are that
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least uh that are least I me honest
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highly subsidized least deals what you
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what can you lose one of those for I
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think like in 400s I imagine the optic
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is the or is the small one Optique can
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you put up a picture of the Optique I'd
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like to see what that it's op it's like
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Q oh oh no with a it looks good yeah but
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not this is a Blazer
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EV yeah or an equinox E I don't know
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what the chassis is yikes uh the the the
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one we're just looking at whatever it's
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called looks better this yeah sure it's
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hard to remember they decided to go with
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names but half the name on all the cars
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is the same so instead of like XT XT XT
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it's going to be eek eek eek on every
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car all right give us the next news
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story please oh a few weeks ago we
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talked about the passport the Honda
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Passport which is a smaller version of
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the pilot uh off-road version that would
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there were like teaser shots and now it
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has been fully revealed and it looks
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good it does look good there's people
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talking about how it's a pretty legit
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off-roader yeah in the same way that
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like all of these are vaguely legit off
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with that an outb back Wilderness is a
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legit off-roader but the 4Runner is a
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legit offro it's not like that why not
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do that well cuz they would have to
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build like they don't build trucks they
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they don't know the last truck they
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built was an ISU Rodeo it's all
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marketing though this car has but it
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looks good at more cool stuff than the
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previous passport the prev passport was
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literally a pilot just shrunk a little
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bit right this looks at least a little
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bit different looks cool the orange drls
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look good they do and the side profile
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shots also look pretty good it's a it's
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a good- looking car yeah no I agree with
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that uh it is a nice looking car um I
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I'm always concerned about the reality
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of an off-road vehicle if it doesn't
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have body on frame and all sorts of off
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nobody cares everybody just wants it to
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look like a cgo Offroad what do you want
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from what do you want from your
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off-roading vehicle I want it to say 70
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series Land Cruiser that's what I want
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you won't accept anything short of a 7
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series Land Cruiser you know what this
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has that that the 70 series doesn't have
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St picnic table like the old CRV like
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the old CRV wow they claim it also has
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rock sliders and Trail watch cameras
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that's legit this is maybe not as bad as
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I was thinking it would be I
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just who in this segment is not getting
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a Grand Cherokee or a 4Runner the
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problem is Honda has watched those cars
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be successful Ford made the same mistake
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with the edge they've watched those cars
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be successful and they don't quite
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understand what has made them successful
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which is like real capability to back up
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like everybody who tries to do a G wagon
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and doesn't really do it it fails
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because like the whole people want to
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buy capability they don't need and
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Honda's like well work's going to give
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you all the capability you do need and
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none of the extra and it's like you
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don't get it people what sells the car
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is the capability they're not going to
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use I think you're wrong because you are
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well aware because we live in the same
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area there's so many cross Trek
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wildernesses about like a third of cross
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track sold are wildernesses that might
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may or may not be true but I think it is
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broadly right and like are are they
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doing anything no but they want it to
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look off-road you're buying a password
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because you want to look offro now why
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you're not buying a CR there's no
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off-road during that segment really but
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same is true for the Forester Wilderness
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which does exist and the Outback
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Wilderness yeah and those aren't around
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though they are around seen a Forester
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world really I've never seen one in my
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life you just haven't been looking but I
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think there is a market for people that
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want something that can that they are
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confident can go down the dirt road they
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go down once a year even though a
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regular pth passport or Camry could as
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well but they want the appearance of it
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and this will do enough of it yeah I
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mean that's definitely true and it's a
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nice looking car I agree with you on
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that and I'm glad that they added a
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little bit more true capability because
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they have been marketing this as an
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off-roader for a while and that has not
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been true and it's nice to actually have
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some real capability you and me can take
13:49
it on the trails when they send me I
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would I would love to do that I will say
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I don't like how the back looks but
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that's issue well I well look you don't
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have to see it when you're in it the
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note while supplies last okay move on to
15:14
the next news story please all right
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real cars so uh so so Porsche has added
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two new models to the tyon range and
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they've added a body style so they've
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given us the tyon body style they
15:26
already had yes but they kind of they
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don't it is a refresh and I wasn't here
15:32
for the first year the refresh exactly
15:33
it wasn't here for the first so they've
15:34
given us the tyon 4 and the GTS the four
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obviously being all-wheel drive which is
15:38
important that car it's still pretty
15:40
impressive do 06 4.4 seconds which is it
15:43
ain't slow but I guess none of the tyon
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are but the real one to talk about is
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the GTS which now has 690 horsepower uh
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and it got like a couple different
15:51
things you could option rear wheel drive
15:53
string to make handle better and blah
15:54
blah blah but I guess they thought they
15:56
needed to broaden this range more my
15:59
belief was they weren't selling all that
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many tyon these days models now in
16:04
that's a lot like two more kind of feels
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um the it is a lot especially
16:13
considering that sales have not really
16:14
been great but they can sell them in
16:17
different trims without much effort
16:19
because it's just like different states
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of sure but yeah they're still expensive
16:23
it start the four starts at 105 Grand
16:25
105 and the sport tourismo GTS
16:28
1517 the good news is that in a year and
16:31
a half they'll all be worth equivalent
16:34
on the site yeah exactly like it's just
16:37
there's not a lot of demand for these
16:38
cars they're cool but like 57 for 4S
16:42
from 2020 92 for 23 GTS that's like the
16:47
one too yeah we were discussing the tyon
16:51
sports arisma might be the best looking
16:53
EV for sale yeah no it does I agree with
16:56
that and also like the most car
16:57
Enthusiast to EV like we were saying but
16:59
like the the the values just become so
17:02
low so quickly which speaks to the level
17:05
of demand that this car has and so I
17:07
appreciate that they're offering new
17:08
models but Porsche must realize like no
17:11
there's not huge interest in tyon it's
17:13
interesting that Porsche continues to
17:14
invest in tyon line at the level that
17:16
they are considering that I think there
17:18
are in De I mean this was in motion
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years ago already so I think they just
17:22
have to do it at this point they're kind
17:23
of stuck with it otherwise it's just a
17:25
complete loss altogether so they were
17:26
going to roll it out as it was still you
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know I it is interesting like we've
17:30
talked about many times now that they
17:31
are now kind of walking back EV thing
17:34
pretty pretty quickly here so I am kind
17:37
of curious to see I mean there's face
17:40
with P but will there be a gas Maan or
17:42
will it be EV only I I've seen one Maan
17:45
EV like are are they preparing for when
17:48
that doesn't sell I guess we'll we'll
17:51
see I I think I think they're probably
17:53
as anxious about it as anybody
17:55
but yeah it's an interesting situation
17:58
uh McAn V I'm not really sure about for
18:01
sure have you driven you haven't driven
18:02
one but they're portly going to send me
18:04
one soon okay give us another one o yes
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all right this is a Mercedes AMG gt43
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yeah the 43 has been revealed yeah as as
18:14
pricing base model yeah base model first
18:17
of all Doug can you guys how much
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horsepower this has um it is of course a
18:21
two-door rear wheel drive unlike the
18:23
rest which all-wheel drive sports car
18:24
it's got probably like 500 horsepower
18:26
it's got 416 horsepower from a 2 L
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inline 4 416 yeah 16 yeah cuz it's the
18:32
it's the 2 L 4 okay without the hybrid
18:34
components of this like so what they
18:35
what are they charging for it 107 is the
18:38
MSRP 107 base I mean so you're paying
18:44
horsepower coup it's another car that
18:45
depreciates fast it's interesting these
18:47
automakers release all these cars we
18:49
it's funny we've talked about lucid Eric
18:50
tyon and now AMG g43 AMG GT all of which
18:53
have been tremendously fast appreciators
18:56
in the used Market they're all released
18:57
by these automakers and then immediately
18:59
they have these massive incentives on
19:00
these cars to try to get people to buy
19:01
them the the the coupe is a the luxury
19:05
coup segment is a tough one Mercedes
19:06
really was trying to compete with 911 um
19:09
they made the new SL sportier it hasn't
19:11
worked they made the AMG GT just
19:13
essentially a coupe version of the SL to
19:14
kind of combine them into one car I
19:15
think that's just confusing frankly I
19:16
think that this car is confusing in
19:18
general um it's just an odd Market
19:21
segment I get what they're trying to do
19:22
cuz like I how much horsepower does a
19:24
Bas 911 have 400 something
19:27
presumably no I think it was I think
19:29
it's three great so they're beating the
19:32
B on 11 an an LC 500 is around 100 Grand
19:35
too so like I get how they're getting to
19:38
that price it's similar horsepower for a
19:41
similar price point with other luxury
19:43
copes but this is a car nobody yeah
19:46
people want 911s want 911 people want
19:48
like people that want a GT an AMG GT
19:50
want more than 46 horsepower from a
19:53
4-cylinder yeah they don't want a
19:55
four-cylinder and then if they do they
19:56
want this this is ultimately going to be
19:58
like a lease play for people who want
20:00
like something cool and it does look
20:01
good yeah no does look good and and and
20:04
they're going to be able to get them at
20:05
pretty good incentivized rates pretty
20:07
soon because but to be honest with you
20:10
I've been kind of confused about this
20:12
whole thing since the SLS the SLS came
20:14
like the SLS was like very high
20:16
performance it competed with the 458
20:17
like it was a big bronny 62 like 6.2 L
20:21
V8 really powerful car then the AMG GT
20:24
came out with substantially less power
20:26
still amazing looks and it kind of felt
20:28
like that but it wasn't anywhere near on
20:29
the performance level the SLS was and
20:31
then they made a gazillion trims of it
20:33
that no one knows or can keep I think
20:35
Mercedes I think the goal was they first
20:38
came out the SLR and I think the goal
20:39
initially always was for these cars to
20:41
be Halo cars but they realized the same
20:44
thing luxus realized with the LFA which
20:45
is that a halo car that cost a half
20:46
million dollars doesn't have enough of a
20:47
halo effect so they they've subsequently
20:50
lowered the the price point but now it's
20:53
not even really a halo car and trying to
20:55
compete with the 911 Mercedes doesn't
20:56
know what to the answer is Mercedes
20:58
doesn't know what to do with the SL and
21:00
they're confused because no one is
21:02
buying the SL and no one's bought the SL
21:03
in 10 years and so they're confused
21:04
about where to take the SL and so this
21:06
time they've merged with amgt I
21:08
guarantee this will not be the strategy
21:09
for the Next Generation if the cars even
21:11
stick around plus if you're doing that
21:12
and you want to be vaguely a Halo card
21:14
just do the 63 don't do a 400 horsepower
21:19
four cylinder one right right also by
21:21
the way used AMG GTS with an actual V8
21:24
are 60 yeah which is a deal yeah yeah
21:29
but I mean a new car is a new car and
21:30
it's a different kind of world
21:32
nonetheless it is pricey for what it is
21:33
and that engine has not been getting a
21:35
lot of great this without the hybrid
21:37
stuff too $225,000 a
21:41
cylinder all right give us the next one
21:43
we got another great news story here our
21:44
friend Marquez brownley and he is a
21:46
friend of the channel yeah so Marquez
21:49
does this video with a Lamborghini where
21:51
he's going too fast and people lose it
21:55
in the comments I can't believe you're
21:56
going so fast he blurred the speedo but
21:58
the RTO has the passenger side
22:03
I just want to say this oh oh all right
22:06
all right myself the number one
22:09
criticism I get the number one video
22:12
criticism I get is that I do not drive
22:14
the cars hard enough number one and if
22:18
you watch my videos in the video there's
22:20
like a three-minute segment where I
22:21
drive the car at kind of normal
22:23
speeds and people are always like he
22:26
just whenever you get into a Doug deuro
22:29
comment thing on Reddit or wherever the
22:31
number one thing he never he doesn't
22:32
even know how to drive he only drives
22:34
slow he's he doesn't really test the
22:35
cars he doesn't really get in the he
22:37
doesn't know anything and um Farah has
22:41
also gotten in trouble for the same
22:42
thing that Marquez has gotten in trouble
22:44
with now and I just find it to be
22:47
grading it is difficult as a content
22:50
creator and when I I I was thinking
22:52
about this today like when I started off
22:54
my my YouTube world I was kind of famous
22:56
for like replying to everybody and being
22:58
very engaged with the audience and it's
23:01
hard to stay at that level because you
23:03
are just getting ridiculous criticism
23:06
constantly all the time now Marquez
23:08
going too fast in a you know 90 or
23:10
whatever in a 40 I yeah it's wrong but
23:13
the if he didn't he would get the
23:15
criticism I get and I think he would
23:16
actually get more of it because because
23:18
he's a tech YouTuber he doesn't have as
23:20
much credibility in the car space to
23:21
begin with and so he needs to prove to
23:23
these people that he can drive the cars
23:24
fast and can actually feel the handling
23:26
and give good honest like review
23:29
opinions based on his Driving Experience
23:31
and so what I tell people now is I drive
23:32
the cars correctly not on camera and
23:35
then on camera I just put my take but it
23:37
doesn't stop people from saying
23:39
literally the number one I mean it is a
23:41
constant complaint that I hear that I
23:43
don't drive the cars fast enough and I
23:44
think the answer is you can't play
23:48
people no the the the channels that have
23:50
made it a point to do a lot of drag
23:51
races on closed tracks get around that
23:53
in a really smart way you can do it you
23:55
rent out tracks that's not for almost
23:58
everybody and so then you have to either
24:00
choose to do what I do and get that
24:01
complaint or choose to do what he didn't
24:03
get that complaint and those are
24:04
basically the only two ways around it
24:06
yeah admittedly he was going fast in
24:08
well I believe it was not actually an
24:09
active school zone but in a school I
24:11
learned my lesson I learned my lesson
24:12
from phah I wouldn't do what he did but
24:14
I feel for him because I know that the
24:16
alternative is also getting complaints
24:18
and I texted him and I said you know
24:20
what I learned of my channel is what I
24:22
do I make my goal to get the fewest
24:25
number of complaints it is my goal is
24:28
not to get zero complaints and it's not
24:29
to make the most people happy it is to
24:31
get the fewest amount of complaints and
24:34
so some of the choices I make are for
24:36
that reason and you know he drives a RTO
24:39
slowly people are going to be like well
24:40
you didn't drive it hard but that's
24:42
still a lesser thing than going over the
24:45
speed limit you're still going to get
24:47
complaints it's YouTube it's the way the
24:48
audience is and it's difficult though as
24:50
a Creator to just kind of there's no wi
24:53
way to win some of this stuff there
24:55
really is not that's my Marquez rant I
24:57
don't think I wouldn't have done it and
24:58
I don't do it on camera ever don't do it
25:01
on camera wink well but but like I think
25:04
you have to wink but the audience
25:06
doesn't buy it one of the things that
25:07
has blown me away doing YouTube videos
25:09
is realizing that whatever the audience
25:11
thinks they see they just that's the
25:14
truth to them like I will I'll post a
25:17
video that I shot in Kansas a year ago
25:19
and people be like oh my God you're in
25:21
Kansas it's like it's it doesn't all
25:23
there's snow on the ground right now or
25:25
there there's leaves when
25:27
you're the summer I get I I get that
25:30
though people are watching what they're
25:31
watching they're not thinking of how
25:33
they see the seams of How It's put
25:35
together but my point is so when I drive
25:37
the car slowly they just assume the only
25:39
time I ever had to drive that car was
25:40
the two and a half minutes we edited
25:42
together it's like what I will say you
25:45
always made the smart decision to not do
25:46
a forward- facing camera yeah to to to
25:48
not people complain about it and now you
25:50
understand why and and it's not just
25:52
Marquez it's Farah it's everybody else
25:53
who's done this um you you make it
25:56
Choice who do you want to upset and then
25:59
you go and make YouTube
26:03
he he he had a good apology on social
26:05
media apologized and it was lovely and
26:06
what this is going to do is mean that
26:08
he's not going to drive the car as fast
26:09
on camera anymore and I promise you
26:10
within 6 months YouTube will have
26:12
forgotten that this happened and instead
26:13
they'll be complaining that he doesn't
26:15
six months I give it two and a half
26:16
weeks maybe tops okay next we're going
26:19
to talk about cars which is what we've
26:21
been doing the big talk cars thing is
26:24
that uh my careera GT has gone in for
26:26
the big recall this was a couple days
26:29
ago remind me what this entails there's
26:31
a suspension recall where some
26:32
suspension component they showed me the
26:34
component it's tremendously small uh
26:36
will in theory will corrode and then the
26:39
car will crash and you will die right
26:40
cuz so many of these cars see corrosive
26:42
elements you know they the climate
26:44
control garages they sit in they're
26:47
whole thing is obviously laughable
26:48
especially because they didn't get a
26:50
single car that actually crashed um but
26:53
they showed me what they were placing
26:54
and so there's a little there's a little
26:57
suspension part inside of like a Rubber
27:01
seal bearing thing and because they
27:03
can't replace just that they're
27:04
replacing all this suspension work
27:06
around it and it's crazy I mean it it's
27:09
a lot of stuff it's a lot of like very
27:11
expensive titanium component within a
27:13
bushing within a bu yeah yeah with
27:16
exactly so they're replacing this an
27:18
enormous amount I mean not an enormous
27:19
amount but a car like that it's gets
27:22
expensive fast we talking about titanium
27:23
parts for free suspension it's like
27:26
depending on where it is the disassembly
27:27
in order to replace it is can be
27:29
expensive and then you have to sometimes
27:31
do an alignment and all the other stuff
27:32
which they are going to do they're going
27:33
be free tires and a couple of
27:35
interesting things came out of this
27:36
first off I got a ler car and the dealer
27:38
told me that I am the first CER GT owner
27:41
in the history of the dealership to
27:44
car so I got I got a base Cayenne uh and
27:49
it's great I'll tell you heck of a car
27:51
um we still don't know if it's a postf
27:53
facelift or pre I think it's new I don't
27:57
much we got a base Cayenne uh the other
28:00
thing that happened is I decided I would
28:02
also do the fouryear service because
28:03
it's been 5 years since I did the
28:04
fouryear service since I didn't own the
28:06
car then and so I call a dealer and I
28:09
said look you know while the car is
28:11
there I might as well do this F pors is
28:12
giving a credit to the CRT owner is 3500
28:15
bucks towards your service and so I
28:17
figur I said yeah I might as well apply
28:19
that towards this four-year service he
28:21
said yeah it's no problem and uh it'll
28:23
be about uh 15,000 and I'm like what
28:28
what you said it like it was like it was
28:30
like a oil chain it is 1% of the value
28:33
of the car if I get an oil change in the
28:35
Fiat it's 1% of the value of the car so
28:37
think about oil change it's the old 1%
28:40
anyway so I uh agreed to that uh but we
28:44
we were we took some stuff off of the
28:45
fouryear service one of the things that
28:47
they look for is coil pack and
28:49
apparently mine was replaced 5 years ago
28:51
and they don't think it'll need another
28:52
one and the 3500 credit goes toward it
28:55
and so I think it'll be something in the
28:56
eight gr it's insane yeah that's rough
29:00
all it is is like a couple of fluids
29:03
belts and like brake fluid there's not
29:06
much to it oil change it's that's 15 G
29:10
huh that yes we have an expression in
29:13
the Indie Community for service it's
29:15
called the you took it to the Steelers
29:16
ship that's what happened there what
29:19
it's a p it's a c GT you can't short of
29:21
sending it to Jimmy yeah that's those
29:23
are your two options you're spend five
29:24
grand for shipping and and and Jimmy I
29:27
sometimes I wonder though because
29:27
Jimmy's Jimmy's very reasonable price
29:30
like would the shipping be worth it but
29:32
but also a troop movement is is
29:34
dangerous for a car like that like
29:35
getting in on a truck and all that so
29:36
yeah especially with the clutch like
29:38
it's a it's a whole thing so they're
29:39
doing the the old foure sour but anyway
29:41
the thing that the thing that all this
29:43
got started for in my mind was um the
29:46
mission X oh the new electric hyper car
29:49
which apparently they're not going to
29:50
make or are going to make can you pull
29:51
up a picture of the mission X cuz going
29:53
to be honest I looked at this the
29:54
remember what looks like o the Acura adx
29:56
one in shorter than Arc oo you think
29:58
that's part of their marketing material
30:00
I hope so I almost Ty it also looks
30:02
identical Al identical to an HRV despite
30:04
not being based on an HRV at all okay
30:05
click on this picture cuz I think it's
30:07
the most heinous picture o yeah so this
30:09
car is Ugo obviously so the mission X
30:12
was announced years ago and it was this
30:14
electric hyper card they were going to
30:16
make and no one wants it but they was
30:17
released like revealed like 10 years it
30:19
was a while ago well so then obviously
30:21
they're not going to I apparently
30:22
they're not going to do it or maybe they
30:24
are maybe they're not but going to do
30:26
another hyper we're very knowledgeable
30:28
about the topic well no there's been
30:29
nothing official but when career GT
30:31
concept was the real C GT came out a
30:33
couple years later and looked identical
30:35
so this thing got shown and people like
30:36
well I guess this is coming but because
30:38
apparently there's not a lot of interest
30:39
in these electric hyper cars maybe
30:40
they're not the point is I was thinking
30:42
about what would it take to get me into
30:44
a mission x what would it have to be for
30:47
me to actually buy it well considering
30:48
you didn't like the 918 I don't think
30:51
you're okay but that's my point I did
30:52
like the 911 St so what would they have
30:56
do so start with a manual manual
30:59
transmission unquestionably would you do
31:01
an electric car if they a manual not at
31:03
that price absolutely not at that price
31:05
point I would love to have an electric
31:06
daily and I really think I should but at
31:07
that price point absolutely no chance if
31:09
the 918 had a manual would that have
31:11
solved it would that be the car you'd
31:12
want basically uh maybe if it was really
31:15
good na8 with with with hybd assist from
31:18
the race car with a manual transmission
31:21
uh no 98 is too expensive for me also
31:23
that's the other thing so pricing I hate
31:25
to tell you I suspect this will be too
31:27
expensive as well Ken can you go to a
31:29
nicer picture so we don't have to look
31:30
at this dude I'm telling you that's what
31:31
it looks like salamander picture let me
31:34
let me tell you what I think also you
31:36
want you want to talk appearance look up
31:38
the 904 living legend concept this is
31:41
going to change your mind Porsche 904
31:43
living legend concept this is what it
31:46
would have to look like wait living I
31:49
it'll probably just Legend
31:52
okay that looks cool it's it is an EXL
31:56
look like an N yeah okay it's based on
32:00
the Volkswagen XL1 which was a very tin
32:02
97 turbo wheel it was it's from that era
32:06
yeah oh it is but if they made it look
32:08
like this with a manual and like a 600k
32:11
price tag count me in for M you're aware
32:13
that it's the length of a young child
32:15
you're missing the point you're missing
32:16
the point I agree it's based on the X1
32:18
so it's actually a small electric car
32:20
but I'm telling you it looks cool it
32:22
does look cool if they made it look like
32:24
this I would be interested interesting H
32:26
but that's about it it's cool right it's
32:29
really cool yeah it's very like Alpine a
32:32
is very yes it is it is that's a good
32:35
point but it's like longer tail like
32:36
like an old Porsche race car kind of
32:38
yeah it's it's really cool why they
32:40
build this why did they build this
32:42
except not as a Volkswagen XL1 right
32:45
right Bas it on something good take the
32:47
design make it bigger cuz an XL1 is a
32:49
tiny little thing make the design a
32:50
little bigger but scale up the
32:51
proportions and scale up the proportions
32:53
toss in a na10 from a race car like my
32:56
casual and a manual transmission how
32:58
much did you pay I think I'd pay six or
33:00
seven depends on production numbers
33:03
but i' pay how much would the KT 440 cuz
33:05
a lot of the a lot of the reason for
33:07
this recall in my opinion is because
33:08
they're trying to get people to be hand
33:10
raisers for the next hyper car it's not
33:12
just to avoid more lawsuits there's that
33:14
too okay um and so I'm thinking what
33:17
would it take and the answer is that 904
33:19
living legend you'd pay 66
33:21
700 depends on production if they made a
33:24
thousand a thousand I don't think they'd
33:26
be able to justify doing it at 600 units
33:30
$600,000 um I they would have to make
33:33
2,000 but I'm cool with that okay I'm
33:34
here porsa if you're listen I'll do it
33:37
build it if it has any sort of automatic
33:40
transmission or hybrid I'm
33:42
out kenon tell us your top cars moment
33:45
of the week yes so I just recently as of
33:49
yesterday the 13th of November I
33:51
celebrated nine years I've owned my E39
33:54
M5 thank you in that time I put uh just
33:57
over I put about 86,000 miles on it wow
34:00
um and it's the I I also made a video I
34:03
watch it every year I made a video for
34:04
E39 Source documenting the whole journey
34:06
of flying down to get it and like
34:08
driving it back with my friends Ryan and
34:09
Steven and I'm still just as excited now
34:13
as I was when I bought the car wow it
34:14
looks even it looks much better now um
34:16
than it did then a lot has changed with
34:18
that car it's been a lot of
34:20
modifications yes but on the topic of
34:22
but also recently so I was on a date
34:24
with this girl that I've been seeing we
34:25
went down to of this art installation
34:27
they had like one of these zolan things
34:28
where it gives you like a fortune and uh
34:30
it gave me mine and it said you have not
34:33
been wise with your money lately it's
34:36
important to reward yourself for your
34:37
hard work but a full in his money will
34:38
soon part remember this the next time
34:40
you receive a some of money and I
34:41
suspect it was referring to
34:43
my that is wise with your money you you
34:45
needed those you needed those uh Fender
34:49
liners oh yes for $112,000 I mean
34:52
obviously it's not referring to that
34:53
it's no that one's a reasonable just I I
34:57
realized like yeah it is an investment
34:59
in how much I love the car and I am
35:00
still just so thrilled to get in it
35:02
every time and and a lot of people have
35:03
been suggesting I get some daily but to
35:05
be honest with you I just love driving
35:06
that car when I get in that car to do
35:08
anything with it's to go play tennis
35:09
with you guys or to come here to work or
35:11
to just drive on the highway for the
35:13
sake of driving just happy to be in the
35:14
M5 and so N9 years later I'm just even
35:17
more excited to drive the car now I
35:19
think than I was when I bought it yeah
35:21
have you owned any car for nine years uh
35:23
not not currently just ever yeah I had
35:25
that Range Rover that CarMax Range Rover
35:27
for like seven or something well the
35:30
Ford GT I've had for like six and a half
35:31
I mean I'm getting there on some of
35:33
these and I will yeah you've never had a
35:35
car for nine years no five had the one
35:38
it's pretty impressive for a car
35:40
Enthusiast all my other car Enthusiast
35:42
friends are like degenerates who every
35:44
two weeks want to buy another car right
35:46
right well and do you once said in a
35:49
Sunday video that a lot of car
35:51
enthusiasts wax lyrical about keeping a
35:53
car forever I'm not even necessarily
35:55
saying I'm to Jet with the M5 but it's
35:57
going to happen well yeah it's
35:58
interesting I I do agree that's an
36:00
interesting point um so many people
36:01
people are like I I'm going to keep my
36:03
car forever and they never do but you've
36:05
never said that but like are just sort
36:07
of doing it because that's what you like
36:10
yes that's the way to do it not be one
36:11
of those Lou who's like I want creeper
36:14
forever then they sell it six weeks
36:15
later both E39 and 5 guys just driving
36:18
around Malcolm Gladwell true who else
36:22
you know Malcolm Gladwell is daily
36:23
driver uh Akira no um Aura adx no uh
36:29
Aura RDX Type S it's not Accura it's not
36:33
a what it's not anacura I I don't know
36:35
brand you're referring to uh what is it
36:37
the KIA Carnival okay um but I love the
36:41
car and it's not going anywhere ether 95
36:43
and everybody in the comments gets mad
36:44
that Ken brings up his ether 95 two
36:46
things about that number one that goes
36:47
back to what I said earlier about the
36:48
annoyance but number two this is Kenan
36:51
this is who Kenan is well I'm passionate
36:53
about other cars the thing is they cost
36:56
hundreds of thousands of dollars and
36:58
it's like to be honest and you can't use
36:59
them the way I want to use them like I
37:02
your point about the Ford GT is the
37:03
reason you love that is because you can
37:04
take it and drive it places that you
37:06
can't wouldn't dream of doing with the
37:08
kunos and the career GT is worth over a
37:10
million dollars and so like you can't
37:12
but the e395 despite how much money I
37:14
have into It ultimately it's not that
37:15
expensive of a car it's extremely usable
37:17
very practical would I love do I want
37:19
other cars of course I'll have other
37:20
cars with it but it's the rock upon
37:22
which I build I just love it right
37:24
that's fair we're happy for you thanks
37:26
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38:05
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38:11
market report Ken and I both want to
38:12
talk about uh z3m coups yes so recently
38:16
we sold this this particular one which I
38:19
thought was fascinating because it's
38:21
kind of the one to have so it's the it's
38:24
the Clown Shoe y it's an s54 it had some
38:27
modifications and admittedly it was a
38:29
salvage stle but in like 2002 so like
38:31
that's not really relevant Sal TI huh
38:33
yeah it was a branded title in 02 but it
38:36
285 now it did have miles on it 63,000
38:39
but it's not crazy for one of these but
38:42
that I mean it just shows that the these
38:43
are coming down sorry you're calling 285
38:48
titled because these yeah cuz s54 ones
38:51
the really nice ones were 100 like they
38:54
were very expensive for a while and now
38:56
they have like really settled n s52 ones
38:59
are still a really good buy yeah that
39:01
was what I was talk about Nick Nick Nick
39:03
mentioned to us the other day just
39:04
privately that he thinks these z3m coups
39:05
are good deals they really are if you
39:07
don't focus on the s54 thing the fact
39:10
that you can get these cars I mean you
39:11
drive this around no one knows whether
39:13
you have an s52 or an s54 first off and
39:15
second they're just so cool some of us
39:17
know well there are very little ways
39:18
that Kenan knows how to tell you of
39:19
course know how to tell on a par I don't
39:21
but they are such cool cars they are
39:24
such cool cars and they're so
39:26
distinctive and I don't know if I would
39:27
necessarily go as far as calling them
39:29
iconic but they are distinctive and cool
39:31
in a very special way well was a it was
39:33
a rare moment when BMW decided let's do
39:36
something quirky yeah let's do something
39:38
and also it was it was an engineer Pet
39:40
Project they the BMW didn't want to make
39:42
a coupe version of it Engineers did it
39:43
in their spare time famously and were
39:45
able to make a a case for it using parts
39:47
from other cars the E30 T and and and
39:51
they did it and look at how look how
39:53
looks yeah I I think it's I think it's a
39:56
really really special car and the fact
39:57
that they're the fact that the s52 ones
39:59
are only 20 grand is like a toal deal
40:02
s52 is not a bad engine no s52 s52 is a
40:05
great engine it's not as exotic as the
40:06
s54 or the European version but it's
40:08
more Rel Rel and these cars are all old
40:11
I mean I can't imagine an s54 is even
40:13
that fast by modern standards uh the car
40:16
this light it's pretty quick is pretty
40:18
fast yeah I guess so but even an s52 is
40:20
probably okay I mean they're it's a fun
40:21
car to drive around it's cool it's
40:22
quirky and it's not expensive and
40:24
they're certainly not losing value two
40:25
years ago I went up to the Pacific
40:27
Northwest where I did a trio of videos I
40:29
did I reviewed an s52 clown shoot an E46
40:31
3 and Honda NS or Acura Acura excuse me
40:34
NSX sorry I didn't want to confuse you
40:36
that Tak of the three like when I
40:38
analyzed price and Driving Experience
40:40
whatever the the shoe was the one I
40:42
liked the most like it just was a nice
40:43
balance of everything it's cool and it's
40:46
it's damn it drives well and it is cool
40:49
people knock the Z3 because it's the Z3
40:51
and it's like the Lesser I think that's
40:52
all a bunch of BS and and the fact that
40:54
it's a coupe and the M it's all cool and
40:57
I think that these cars are total
40:58
Bargains at their number with an s52 and
41:00
it yes S5 before has got absolutely
41:02
crazy and maybe are seeing a little bit
41:03
of they're coming they're they're coming
41:06
down certainly really minty minty minty
41:08
drivve around this be so cool look at
41:10
that rear dish on that rear wheel man
41:12
that is just delicious hey kenon before
41:14
we move on do you want to tell Doug how
41:15
to tell aart cuz there this is a really
41:18
good I mean you can tell from right here
41:19
so for those of you who don't know I'll
41:21
I will this is classroom Clown Shoe Time
41:23
with kenon so one way to tell is the
41:26
wheel finish is the only other M car
41:28
that got Chrome Shadow wheel finish like
41:30
the E39 M5 only two ones they ever did
41:32
it with so that's one way to inst which
41:34
one has it which one doesn't so the the
41:36
s52 does not just finished in Hyper
41:38
Silver that's one the other thing is the
41:40
m batch changed significantly so this
41:42
one is like the E46 M3 where at which is
41:45
a little bit more rounded looking when
41:47
you look at an s52 car it's like the E36
41:50
M3 which is a little of course I pick on
41:52
I click on a car that doesn't have it uh
41:55
let's see this one has it you can see
41:58
it's much more flat look go back to the
41:59
other one I should you know we're going
42:01
signicant significant is the word I
42:06
sure look fipo this is a brand this is a
42:09
brand that values subtlety go go to it
42:11
all right so see how that one is kind of
42:13
more back to the other one much more
42:15
flat so completely different there now
42:17
those are both pretty changeable things
42:20
are inside as well there are there are
42:22
changes too so you can see here so yeah
42:26
so for so the gauge cluster on the s52
42:29
cars is black on the S before cars it's
42:32
gray okay changeable also changeable
42:34
also a little more difficult cuz it also
42:36
applies down here to but I'm going to
42:37
pull this out at Carson coffee next time
42:39
you right this is the guy who knows the
42:40
difference between the Acura trims
42:42
currently like on every sub model so I
42:44
mean yeah exactly you want you want Guff
42:47
here wait so is that all well you start
42:50
it and it sounds different but the
42:56
the the badges apply to the sides too
42:58
that's another thing that changed I mean
42:59
they're really subtle ways to tell but
43:02
yeah that that's that's largely how you
43:03
tell the tell the difference I yeah
43:05
that's that's it I think thank you for
43:07
that lesson um okay we are I actually I
43:10
want to do the last market report thing
43:12
that I wanted to talk about which is the
43:13
Evo pull up the Evo let's just talk
43:14
about it let's just get it out in the
43:15
open let's get out the open let's just
43:16
get it out in the open this is the
43:18
coolest thing that's ever been sold on
43:19
car Goods well we sold that first gen
43:21
HRV once but dude I when I was a kid I
43:25
was I car came out when I turned 15 16
43:28
and at the time it was the coolest thing
43:30
the world we were all playing Grand
43:31
Turismo and we had all wanted Nissan to
43:33
bring us the GTR and subar to bring us
43:35
the WRX and mitsub to bring us the Evo
43:38
Nissan never did bring us the GTR they
43:40
brought us the new GTR but we never got
43:42
the skyline that we played in Gran
43:43
turism Y and Subaru redesigned the
43:45
empreza and brought us the WX but
43:46
Mitsubishi just was like all right yep
43:48
and after the Evo 6 they gave us the Evo
43:50
7 which was or they gave us the evo 8
43:53
which was quite similar it was just sort
43:55
of like the car we all play it even had
43:56
a rear wiper like Japanese Market sedans
43:59
do and US market sedans never do
44:01
and immediately when the cars started to
44:03
get sold here people started to modify
44:05
them and crash them yep and you just
44:08
don't see nice ones and this one is a
44:10
nice one and I want it yep it is nice I
44:13
I think it has very limited yeah
44:15
powdercoated brake calipers and an
44:18
Alpine head unit that's it yeah y it
44:23
where that's the situation no evo
44:24
anymore first gen how many do you think
44:26
exist like this still I mean especially
44:28
in a cool col yeah especially in a this
44:30
is one of those hey is it modded no it's
44:33
only got an exhaust a tune it's lowered
44:36
and it's wheels and a built motor but
44:38
it's not compared to my buddies just
44:43
boltons I think this car is so cool and
44:46
I just remember my childood and how
44:47
desperately I wanted one of these we all
44:49
played these video games these were the
44:51
coolest cars you could find in video
44:53
games and here it is in real life 20
44:56
years later Blue by You Blue by you
44:59
that's right it it is cool it's nice to
45:01
see one of these preserved it just just
45:03
just doesn't happen not even window 10
45:06
yeah no I know it's just totally totally
45:09
OE okay next up time to move on to the
45:11
questions questions questions questions
45:13
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45:14
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45:20
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45:21
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45:24
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45:28
lot of these are for you today Ken oh
45:29
okay hi Doug and the other two I pose
45:31
this isn't one of them what are your
45:34
thoughts about clear tailights for
45:35
example the 2014 Porsche GT3 came with
45:37
Factory option clear taillights and I
45:38
think it's a great look I drive as
45:39
Toyota Sienna which had clear tailights
45:41
I think it's one EV but only the SE if
45:44
only the SE uh the answer is they're
45:46
fine I don't know okay next got an
45:49
opinion on really I actually kind of
45:50
agreed that on the Sienna it works it
45:52
worked on some cars the 997 GTS has
45:55
clear tail lights I hate them I think
45:57
they look horrible so the 997 clear
45:59
tails the problem with those was part of
46:01
them were still red yeah because there
46:03
were regulatory components that had to
46:04
Beed I actually do hate them on these
46:06
the 991 clear tals they go to the 997
46:08
clear tals this change this will change
46:10
your life but it's not GT3 take out GT3
46:12
9 and S clear Tails OE because the non
46:14
OE ones aren't these are not OE uh where
46:16
are the OE that that was the clear taale
46:18
for the 997 it looks it looks wearing
46:21
eyeliner looks so bad it was the best
46:23
they could do at the time it wasn't good
46:26
no I thought it was GTS only uh it was
46:29
this this actually now that I look at it
46:30
I don't know if it's the exact OE clear
46:32
tail but it was very similar in spirit
46:34
and no one got them because it was just
46:37
so not clear yep anyway um no you could
46:41
get them on other ones but very few
46:42
people did I don't mind them on the
46:43
right cars is 300 of course wore at Best
46:46
of course oh no first gen I'll tell of
46:48
course second gen RX every RX every the
46:51
first two generations of RX were clear
46:53
RX 330 yeah larger cars seem to pull it
46:56
off better than sports cars I think it
46:57
works on some cars it doesn't work on
46:59
other cars and I think almost no car
47:01
that has been modified to add it does it
47:03
look good true true it was available I
47:05
know this is very E39 it was available
47:07
on the E39 like these are Factory
47:10
Believe It or Not these are Factory yeah
47:11
those are Factory hel tailights that is
47:14
tragic bad well that's ha okay uh deep
47:17
pain next question Aiden Kelly 666
47:20
question for Doug an honored guest I was
47:21
once kicked out of an aircooled Porsche
47:23
group on Facebook during Co for asking
47:24
if they think prices would go down
47:25
because there are a million of them and
47:26
they are slow question what is the
47:28
fastest or funniest way to make a
47:30
Porsche purist angry
47:32
uh that kind of thing I mean I think
47:34
that the people the production numbers
47:37
is really my thing about those cars
47:38
they're really not rare they're cool
47:41
yeah and they are slow yeah they're not
47:44
quick um I just don't get into the
47:45
pedantry of the Portrait People in so I
47:47
I'm sorry what the pedantry pedantry
47:50
okay I thought you just massively Mis
47:51
proun pedigree I thought thought you to
47:54
say pageantry was what you people are so
47:56
pedantic about so many little things
47:57
that I just can't bring myself to care
47:59
about I think that's that's another good
48:01
one if someone's showing you a nine oh
48:03
yeah well calling a pdk car a tip we
48:06
like to do that that really upsets them
48:08
but also like if they're showing you
48:09
their car and they're talking about how
48:10
they have deviated stitching on their
48:12
map like around their map lights and you
48:13
just go do you ever drive the car here's
48:16
here's a reality okay I have a Porsche
48:18
and I go to Cars and Coffee and all go
48:19
to car events right and people because
48:21
it's me I can't be mean ever to people
48:24
right to their cars so when people show
48:26
me their cars I always have be like oh
48:28
yeah that's the coolest thing I've ever
48:29
seen and most of the time they are cool
48:32
yeah but sometimes I'll get a Porsche
48:34
dude who thinks that I'm a Porsche dude
48:36
and he'll be like you got to come over
48:37
here and take a look at this cuz this is
48:39
the only one they made with a sunroof
48:40
and the only one they made with this
48:44
and that's when you pointed the Canon
48:46
yeah I'm like got talk to my friend Sam
48:48
over here Sam yeah send him to Sam I
48:50
just like I get into cars for their
48:53
overall Driving Experience and the way
48:54
they are and the way they feel and the
48:56
way Etc and I don't get into cars like
49:01
the little the little tiny like the
49:03
stitching is different kind of stuff I
49:05
get that I understand those people are
49:06
there it's cool it's their thing it's
49:07
not my thing and so like I don't really
49:10
gel with the Porsche community in that
49:12
way they're rich Corvette people it's
49:15
like that's where you kind of get to
49:17
it's just like yeah no I agree like
49:19
ultimately it's infuriating to me to see
49:21
a car that is designed for driving GT3
49:23
the ultimate driver's car and it's only
49:26
driven to cars in coffee and back and
49:27
but like like oh I put ppf on it and
49:29
then I got I got the Porche design watch
49:31
match it's like and 80% of the threads
49:32
on rless are what spec should I get nice
49:35
spec all they want talking oh you
49:36
beautiful spec and it's like don't any
49:39
of you care about like the the driving
49:42
enjoyment of the vehicle I got the sport
49:44
seats cuz they're better for resale well
49:46
why don't you get the seats that are
49:47
better for your Driving Experience not
49:50
making this up I once read of a I wish I
49:53
could find it I once read a um a ren
49:56
list like Thread about which dealer had
49:59
like the nicest C offerings like for at
50:02
their in their service department like
50:04
within like northeastern Ohio and it was
50:06
like oh you're focusing on the wrong
50:09
thing it was hard to read and the
50:11
comments were as ingre just as you would
50:13
expect it's it's I will use a French
50:15
press I I I go on the ren list and I
50:17
it's just hard it's hard the the the
50:19
Supercar section where we talk C GT it's
50:23
easier but I go in some of those threads
50:25
and I'm just like I cannot believe
50:26
people are having these conversations um
50:28
and they've all been fooled into this
50:29
paint to sample thing even though the
50:31
colors aren't actually the sample
50:32
they're just older colors that a million
50:33
other people are getting also and the
50:35
whole thing is just is just I don't get
50:37
into the the pedantry much it's a bit
50:39
much drive the car which drive the car
50:42
drive the car you know I I do I do take
50:44
pride in the fact that the CR GT is like
50:45
Porsche God even though it's they were
50:46
all like silver with no options that's
50:49
like one of my favorite things um okay
50:52
next question from Paul Hanrahan Doug if
50:55
you had to completely replace your
50:56
current car collection with budget
50:58
economy cars which one would you pick
50:59
filipo you take this one okay your card
51:01
collection but they all have to be same
51:03
like genre of C I don't know that you
51:06
choose your family card would be
51:08
Highlander Hybrid which is not really a
51:10
budget economy car but if you buy a
51:11
four-year-old one there was a period of
51:12
time fun fact for for long-term Doug
51:14
followers uh where Doug Loves the high
51:17
high pull up like the which one did I
51:19
like the 12 yeah like 14 there was the
51:24
refresh ored the 08 to 121 yeah
51:27
everybody did this one but it's I like
51:29
the pre- refresh which preesh they're
51:31
all pre- refresh I think that that is
51:33
one of the more beautiful like normal
51:35
cars that has ever existed it's yeah uh
51:38
but budget economy C what would Doug buy
51:40
Doug would just buy any of them doesn't
51:41
matter whichever one's closest to his
51:43
house yeah I don't have an enormous
51:45
amount like when I'm it's funny because
51:47
people often ask me stuff like this like
51:50
car I don't my friends be like I got the
51:53
whatever I got a whatever at the rental
51:54
car agency today I'm just like I don't
51:56
care like I'm all set you just throw I
51:58
drive everything it doesn't matter all
52:00
that much me yeah a common way that Doug
52:02
recommends that people buy cars is which
52:03
dealer is closest to your house which
52:04
dealer is closer which salesperson do
52:06
you like better which color is better at
52:07
the dealer people come to me and they're
52:08
like should I get a Rav 4 a CRV or a CX5
52:11
like well first of all the CX5 you
52:14
should not buy you should buy the CX
52:15
hybrid to be competitive but I just like
52:18
to me like none of you're not going to
52:20
really notice that people are terrified
52:22
of making a bad decision when it comes
52:23
to buying a car and it's like you don't
52:25
get it it really at if you've gotten to
52:27
that level it doesn't matter now someone
52:28
came to me and said I'm thinking about
52:32
200 then we have a problem then it's
52:34
like I got to steer you different
52:35
direction think about it um so yeah the
52:38
answer is I don't know the answer really
52:40
but they it wouldn't be stuff that I
52:41
would really care all that much about
52:43
although I do think Fiat felipo should
52:44
get a Fiat multiple that is a great car
52:48
but it's not really like a modern quirky
52:49
Enthusiast car uh yeah it is I think I
52:52
think it might be the quirkiest car of
52:54
all time it looks like a rather it's not
52:57
a budget economy car it is budget econom
53:01
you're right the answer Doug would buy a
53:02
field multi okay next question from
53:05
Indore can hey guys you've just been
53:07
given $500,000 which you must use to buy
53:09
the following a daily driver a weekend
53:11
Cruiser a track toy what would your
53:12
picks be you think I need 500 Grand I
53:14
need close to 500 Grand give him 23
53:17
Grand he's I'm good one card it all uh
53:21
the answer of course I'd have to think
53:24
about it actually I need time to think
53:25
can I get a for GT in there yeah yeah
53:27
you you yeah I mean yeah Ford GT and a
53:31
couple boring cars for GT and a newe
53:33
class wagon you get to you have some
53:35
money left over for a track toy yeah
53:38
it's not a bad answer actually yeah 4 GT
53:42
for what three for a high a mild one 300
53:44
kind of solved the problem though right
53:45
there those two I don't even need three
53:47
what is yours so assuming I can't keep
53:49
The Ether 9 and5 I'll pull it out of wow
53:51
contention for this but chall put it in
53:54
you could have a daily for daily Dr oh
53:56
okay well I I but okay well yeah buy the
53:58
nicest one which is 50 and then keep
54:01
mine okay call it 20 I can get
54:03
reimbursed for it so I've made made
54:05
myself even a hole there um I think but
54:08
the 395 notwithstanding so I want to
54:10
pick just have some other stuff for 550
54:12
I'd love to have uh 97.1 GT3 uh for the
54:15
track car and then probably no probably
54:20
mosan would be a killer that is a wait
54:22
that's that's better than mine I want to
54:23
change mine now all right you can go 575
54:26
would be cool I can get a 575 like 100
54:28
right uh yeah if for a tip yeah tip 575
54:31
Mercy that's Mercy is a good choice yeah
54:34
but the what's that your track car well
54:36
they both be track cars yeah you drive
54:39
the one when the other one is
54:41
overheating at the track and then so
54:43
you're going to get eight laps between
54:44
them yeah but but that's a lot like when
54:46
you think about it then you break for
54:47
lunch you know every time I go to a
54:49
track day you only get like four laps
54:50
total because the instructors like to
54:51
hear themselves talk so much that that's
54:53
there's like it's like a 5 hour day and
54:55
4 and a half hours is the instructor
54:56
being like you got remember when you're
54:57
going to Corner one it was Nick in he's
55:01
like talk to the cones be friends with
55:02
the con it wasn't that yeah that but one
55:05
more you need a luxury car then I oh
55:07
then the cheapest the E-class wagon you
55:09
don't need to be cheapest you got money
55:10
left over uh those we're not thinking
55:13
big enough interes is a good one what
55:16
would you get I honestly don't know what
55:18
I would choose against me any $500,000
55:20
like is like this giant World never
55:23
considered it yeah that's oh I live in
55:26
California I don't have any kids or
55:28
anything I could have a Z8 is my daily
55:30
sure okay great there's 100 Grand of
55:32
your 500 that would be cool well no
55:34
they're not 100 that's like 130 to 180
55:37
at least for a nice color fine 130 but
55:40
but I mean the 550 is almost 200 the GT3
55:43
is 145 congratulations you have three
55:46
two dark what if I want a super M I'm
55:48
keep the m i want a super America that's
55:51
can I get a super America and a mercy
55:52
320 let's I can get a super America for
55:54
200 tip 200 220 and a mercy for 180 so
55:58
that's 400 I just spent and then eClass
56:01
wagon I got money left over I'll give to
56:03
you but just you know your super America
56:06
top won't work it won't work what what
56:08
is yours have you ever comp with any
56:09
never even considered anything filipo
56:12
doesn't do thought exercises but also he
56:14
would never get a daily driver a weekend
56:15
Cruiser or a track chy road legal like
56:17
it's just not who he is at his heart no
56:19
I would get one car and it would be 45
56:21
Grand it' be an eClass wagon yep or C7
56:24
Corvette you should get a new alteran
56:25
for this money you can get a new alter
56:27
for a fifth of that money I know but you
56:29
that I I think if I were 5 500 Grand to
56:32
spend I would get a new altering
56:33
probably okay next question from Kenny H
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what are your all-time favorite and
56:37
least favorite factory wheels ever fited
56:39
to a car this one I could go for decades
56:41
literally decades pull up the f512m
56:43
let's just start there let's start with
56:45
the f512m go and go from there
56:49
um filipo they're I'm not familiar to be
56:53
oh yeah take out wheels just go to f512m
56:56
are those these are too dark these are
56:57
too dark we got to I want to see the I
56:59
want to see the really want to see move
57:00
the wheels filipo these wheels will
57:03
change these are quite the wheels I
57:06
agree there's some debate on these
57:07
wheels about whether they're the ugliest
57:09
wheel or the most beautiful wheel I
57:11
think they're beautiful the most people
57:13
think they are the ugliest wheel ever
57:15
created and put on a car kenon where do
57:16
you fall on this I think they're really
57:18
cool I think it's the entire car that's
57:21
hi is it's the any of the elements in
57:24
isolation would probably be fine maybe
57:26
the headlights aren't cuz the pop-up
57:27
headlights on the testos were pretty
57:28
cool they were ridiculous but they made
57:29
they like they 550 a fight on F12 M it's
57:32
like what it's like what a bad modifier
57:33
or chest it's what a bad modifier all
57:36
this was was to buy them time for one
57:37
year to finish what they needed to
57:39
finish with the 550 that was all this
57:40
car was for basically what um okay the
57:44
worst wheels of all time I like this
57:46
yeah pull up the 997 Lobster Clause oh
57:51
yeah people are going to disagree with
57:52
you there they are and they're wrong and
57:53
this isn't even a thing that I can that
57:55
I will discuss this is the ugliest wheel
57:57
ever manufactured in the entire history
57:59
of Wheels this picture why do these
58:01
wheels have so many holes in
58:05
them they're a lot varying shapes some
58:07
are like crusty some are obviously
58:10
circular for the lugs and then some are
58:12
like there are a lot of I don't like
58:15
almost these wheels have 15 holes in
58:18
them and then the hole for the lug and
58:20
for the tire pressure sensor these are
58:21
the or the the valve step these are the
58:24
ugliest wheels that have ever existed
58:25
these wheels are prized in the Porsche
58:27
Community oh you got lobster claws I
58:30
think just like saying it also people do
58:31
like say it don't eat the mic it's not
58:34
sanitary okay give us some of yours I'm
58:36
surprised you're not going for like an
58:37
AMG deep dish I like those but I don't
58:40
I'm not obsessed for some of my
58:41
favorites the um the hold on the
58:45
Mercedes 65 AMG like the like the 2008
58:49
one those Wheels oh yeah of course some
58:51
of the best Factory of course most like
58:53
they' been taking oh yes the gray with
58:55
the silver oh yeah yeah people people
58:58
aftermarket this wheel and it's so wild
59:00
you f355 had an all had a great wheel
59:02
yeah f355 had an alltime great E39 M5
59:04
has some of the all-time great Wheels um
59:07
yeah I mean there are so many really
59:10
good you know what a bad wheel is that
59:12
HRV wheel that I hate yeah it is it's a
59:17
gener 2012 2018 the one that when we
59:21
were on the East Coast together and you
59:22
show be that that Mercedes with those
59:24
off what wheels are those are so those
59:26
are like new AMG Wheels look like that
59:28
um but no it's it's the newest h v no
59:31
it's the last gen HRV not the newest
59:32
it's the 20 type in 24
59:37
HRV I thought it was the one before this
59:39
I'm I'm looking at it right here and
59:40
then go down a little that wheel this is
59:42
one of the worst Wheels I've ever seen
59:44
in my entire life as a human being
59:46
they've silvered only parts of the
59:48
outside it looks like it's been curved
59:50
looks like a starfish it does look like
59:52
a starfish horrible I thought you the H
59:54
ones before this that were also two
59:55
different colors I also hate that RAV
59:57
four remember that ha that RAV four whe
59:59
but that RAV four is like the ugliest I
00:01
know it's it was like a very specific
00:03
trim for like one model year and no one
00:05
bought it but those are bad like 2021
00:08
your um of course these a lot of these
00:10
are like BMW specific but they're um let
00:13
me see if I can find it on the e65 there
00:16
was a wheel hold on I'm the seven series
00:19
yes uh hold on there was a bad e65
00:22
there's a website that just like has all
00:25
BMW the bmw. wheels isn't it is
00:28
something like that there it is oh well
00:31
that's um but they ah no okay so there
00:35
is look at this website go when I wrote
00:38
this is a bad whe this how you check
00:40
whether it's that's a great wheel those
00:42
were like those were the I'm here to
00:44
fire your father no there's some there's
00:45
some these are the tiny these were bad
00:48
they were on the E the the Z3 those
00:51
three spes are awesome just give me a
00:53
minute these were bad they were on the
00:55
E38 it I thought it was impossible to
00:57
make the E38 look bad those Wheels did
00:59
it sty those are them those Wheels oh my
01:02
god really bad wait those are on the e65
01:05
the the seven series E3 excuse me I
01:08
never seen those Wheels in my life yeah
01:09
these were on the E38 style 76 this was
01:11
an E39 wheel the style 7 what is that
01:14
must be for Eastern Europe for extra
01:18
roads oh I wish there was a website like
01:20
this just for all General there is a
01:21
Mercedes equivalent this was a great
01:23
wheel that style 87 on the on the 4.6 is
01:25
oh I could do wheels for days that was
01:28
the e65 wheel we all know in love yep
01:30
and I I remember these too which were
01:33
those were not good they did not last
01:35
long I don't even know if they made it
01:36
past oh you know what we I hate you're
01:38
on the BMW One sensor go down more the
01:40
the E the E the six series that one
01:43
wheel with the little ovals on it I
01:45
hated dearly oh where is that oval I
01:48
know what you're talking about I'm Ken
01:50
if I see it though I might yeah I'm
01:51
going to scroll up to going six series
01:54
let's see if we pulled up a little
01:56
faster that way oh it's so Ugo so Ugo
01:59
give me the wheel I know want to oh
02:01
maybe they took it off cuz it's so ugly
02:02
they want people to see too many people
02:04
broke their screens you know what I'm
02:05
talking about yeah I know what you're
02:07
talking about why oh this it's this it's
02:10
on the base like 645 oh that the car was
02:12
already ugly and then they were like
02:14
we're going to turn it up a notch you're
02:16
going to complain Try Us Now Chris
02:18
bangle went watch this yeah pain okay I
02:22
want to do one more wait I've been asked
02:23
I've not been asked for my opinion okay
02:24
go uh Saab 900 three spokes three spokes
02:28
good wheel wait which gen
02:31
uh OG g900 yeah OG g900 three spokes the
02:34
turbo yeah yeah those good Wheels not
02:38
great Wheels generally good wheels on
02:40
that c on that cool yeah so cool what
02:42
are the bad ones I don't got none come
02:44
on some you don't like there's none that
02:46
come to mind I don't think about Wheels
02:47
in that way really you just think all
02:49
wheels are good wheels are wheels no I
02:51
don't think they're all good but I don't
02:53
they don't hard burst race in my mind
02:54
you know whe I also loved markv turbo
02:56
yeah oh super yeah yeah
03:02
and people remove them and it's such a
03:04
mistake finding a stock one try to find
03:06
a picture of stock one it's
03:09
impossible look at those Wheels those
03:11
chromies I wouldn't do the chromies but
03:12
I would do good but I get why you like
03:14
them they're so nice Okay uh last
03:17
question last question last question
03:19
last question um the Precision driver
03:22
asks hey Doug are there any plans to
03:24
expand cars and bids into countries such
03:25
as the UK and Ireland in the
03:27
future not at this time not at this time
03:30
we are in Canada part of the UK in or
03:34
not that's a great point I don't I've
03:36
never quite understood it they they they
03:38
do look up to the queen you know people
03:40
got mad at me last week I'm sorry for
03:42
this sidebar especially at the very end
03:43
but people got mad at me last week for
03:45
saying that Bugatti's Factory in MIM is
03:47
sort of in France and sort of in Germany
03:49
they're like this in France Bugatti when
03:51
it was founded was founded in Germany
03:53
and then FR there was some Wars and one
03:55
thing led to another and France got the
03:57
territory back but Bugatti we is a
04:00
German company except for the time when
04:03
company interesting and it's owned by
04:06
the it was owned by the Germans again
04:07
and look who has it you couldn't even
04:09
say that it's not a German company now
04:10
like they are only they are only in
04:12
France by by location like in they are
04:14
German in every sense of the word well
04:16
they are owned Volkswagen is like the
04:18
germanist German and they're the
04:19
germanist Germans of the Germans and it
04:21
was this example it was they gave the
04:23
Germans the ability to be Germans to the
04:25
Max and if you're playing the German
04:27
drinking game at home you're having a
04:29
great while we're talking about the gles
04:31
I would like to talk about one other
04:32
thing one of the shirts the shirt that
04:33
you are wearing has a logo that looks
04:35
strikingly like the Geo logo Gio is a
04:38
great company you know what's on the
04:40
back of this shirt can I even you know
04:41
what's on the back of this shirt oh God
04:43
I'm knocking over stuff oh my God is a
04:46
disaster G500 Austrian built it's great
04:50
buy them at merge. car.com that's it
04:52
we're done thank you for watching our
04:53
podcast it was our second best one ever
04:55
after last week's goodbye everyone