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Welcome back to the Martini Works podcast.
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I'm here with Gels and special guest, Lars.
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Lars Beck on the podcast.
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Always a good time when Lars joins us.
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And I think we should just hop right into it.
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What are some cars that shouldn't be good but are?
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You're speaking my language.
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Dude, I love those things.
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There's a couple that rip around Appleton here
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that every time I see how I just get so hyped.
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There was one that showed up to Early Birds.
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He actually bought some works from us.
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Looks incredible on there.
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There's actually one that's right across the way here.
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They work in one of the buildings over here.
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It's like, they sound so angry.
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They sound so good.
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And they're just a little roller skate.
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It shouldn't be good because it looks like a smart car.
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The rest of the kids don't say.
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It's a pissed-off smart car is what it is.
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They sound like a Dodge Neon SRT-4s.
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Surprisingly, I was able to fit in one.
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The guy that came to Early Birds, he let me sit in it.
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Really nice guy, by the way.
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We did a video on it.
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And I feel like I have to own one at some point.
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It does seem like one of those bucket list cars.
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One of my friends that worked at a BMW dealer,
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he drove everything, Porsche, Mercedes, BMWs, and so on.
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He also had a fascination with Fiat 500 and Steve Bauer.
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So he had one for a couple of years and loved it.
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Yeah, I always remember when they were first coming out
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and I'd see them, I'm like, God, what the hell are those things?
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And then I remember, I think I was in Green Bay at the time.
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And I saw one for the first time that was modified
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and heard it for the first time.
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And I was like, what the fuck is in that thing?
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Like Dakota said, it had that SRT-4 just growled to it.
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Yeah, they sound absolutely killer.
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I feel like there's a decent aftermarket.
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There's got to be, yeah.
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It's important for them because they're always modded.
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And they can come with Beats by Dre.
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I was like a special edition.
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They had this for me.
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Yeah, like the one that was here
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for earlier were the Beats by Dre speakers in it.
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And that's like a trim option or whatever.
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That's kind of cool.
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There are some brands out there
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that they kill it with the audio game.
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I know my mom's trucks.
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She's always had ram trucks.
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And for some reason, they have always had the best
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They were like partner.
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Some of them had Bose, some had Alpine.
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There was one with a whole THX system in it.
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Yeah, dude, it was crazy.
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There was always something that I think would bump.
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Get into the dodging and turn it on.
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It just does like the THX.
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Yeah, it blows you out of the frickin' cab.
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I would say, what about the Lexus IS 300?
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They're really good.
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In reality, you get the 2JZ that's NA boring.
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Yet you see those being slung around all the time.
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Yeah, if you can get a manual on which are pretty rare.
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It's like I kind of attributed it
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to like that is like the closest thing
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that we got to like a chaser here in the US.
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Like it was like, it was just supposed
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to be like a more luxurious sedan.
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But it had a 2J under the hood and you can get it manual.
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So it was like it kind of hit both of those really well.
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And I feel like that's what people fuck with the chaser so much.
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It's like, oh, it was meant to be just a normal everyday car.
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But then it had like a sports car like hidden underneath it.
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They have like that cool aesthetic
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because they're totally practical.
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And it's a Lexus, you know, it's reliable.
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Last forever and stuff.
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But just adding a manual transmission
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and a decently fun engine.
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And it looks properly good.
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It's engaged very well too.
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You can search for the unicorn too
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and you can get the wagon manual.
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Ooh, the Sport Cross.
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Yeah, those are cool.
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Really hard to find but really neat.
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I always see people drift in those too.
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I think that's really neat.
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The gauge clusters on them are so cool.
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It looks like a watch.
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Yeah, they're really neat.
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Oh, yeah, seriously, yeah.
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Check out like the, if you ever see an IS 300,
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like go look at like the gauge cluster, like Google or something.
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It looks super cool.
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It's like, it literally looks like a layout
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like a really fancy watch or something.
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It's pretty much the coolest part of the car.
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The rest is pretty standard.
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Yeah, for me, the new Prius has no business looking the way it does.
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Obviously it's front-wheel drive,
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it's whatever, automatic and stuff, but they look incredible.
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It's obviously all the benefits of the hybrid and all that stuff.
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They look absolutely insane.
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I already said that.
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But then they're only like 3,000 pounds.
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Like this little like sedan hybrid thing,
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I thought there would be like 4,000 pounds or something.
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No, they're decent.
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Yeah, they look awesome.
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I think with the like lower than on wheels,
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it's honestly a super good looking car.
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Yeah, I think it's one of the best looking cars
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that anybody makes right now, short of Lexus
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even though we were just talking about them.
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It's just a really gorgeous car to look at.
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Toyota really flipped it up.
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They made like the first gen, second gen,
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I can't remember first gen Prius, horribly ugly.
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I think it's a horrible looking egg car.
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But these new ones, you would never even guess it's a Prius.
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That's what we're used to now.
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They're just kind of goofy looking.
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But the new one's stunning.
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I think it looks better than the Corolla even.
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And that's a good looking car.
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There's a while where like hybrids and EVs and stuff,
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like for whatever reason, had to look super ugly
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in order to be a hybrid.
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But now it's like being normalized
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and you can make them look cool.
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The Buick Regal GS.
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So it's kind of like the spin on like the old like GNX,
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you know, kind of thing.
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Like it was like a modern eyes version of it kind of.
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So it's like, it looks pretty basic,
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but it is an all-wheel drive, like 3.6 liter V6.
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It's like 310 horsepower, like pretty decent, you know,
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And it, you know, kind of like the commercials
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that it means, I don't see a Buick.
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You know, it's like, it kind of fits in with that word.
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It's like, it looks pretty decent.
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It doesn't look like a, like a grandpa car,
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but then kind of get down.
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I would say another one is the Mazda Speed 3.
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I may like the first generation more so,
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cause the newer, little bit newer ones are,
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I don't know, they're nicer,
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but the first gen ones kind of look like traffic.
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And then you get in the interiors
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and they're very basic.
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Like it just feels like economy car.
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Speed 3 or Mazda Mazda Speed 3?
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So cause there's a difference.
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The front wheel drive turbo, hot hatch.
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So the Mazda Speed 3.
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The Mazda, Mazda Speed 3.
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It's a one word, it's like Mazda.
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And then it's like a one word Mazda Speed 3.
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Mazda, Mazda Speed 3.
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Why would they do that?
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Cause they still make the, the Speed 3s.
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And those are actually really good cars too.
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Our friend Mark has one.
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And we took it down to,
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I've actually ridden with him a couple of times down
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to like Tennessee for like car shows and stuff.
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And he threw it out.
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He has like a set of Gram lights and stuff like that
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and lowered and has some like corksport stuff too.
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And it's like super nice.
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Like the quality is like super nice.
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It got insane gas mileage.
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It's like 42 something miles per gallon.
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Right, he was getting, it's crazy.
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We were like stopping to like fill up essentially
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with everyone else.
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And he's like, no, I put like three bucks in.
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He's like, I really didn't use any gas.
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And we've been going for like three hours.
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And it's like, Jesus.
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Yeah. On that note.
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The diesel BMWs back in the day.
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Like, I don't think they make any more
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but I had the 328D wagon.
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And that was the same thing.
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I got 45 miles per gallon or something like that.
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The first time I drove it for a home from Milwaukee,
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I was like, what did I just get into?
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And I would take it on drives like around Wisconsin
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with like friends in their sports cars and stuff.
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And I could hang with them.
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Like obviously it wasn't the fastest thing in the world,
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especially, you know, horse power wise,
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but it was fast enough to get 45 miles per gallon.
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All the luxury stuff on the inside looks the same.
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You could never tell it sounds more or less the same.
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Diesel cars are underrated.
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I can't get on board with them.
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I think they're so weird.
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Something about it just weirds me out.
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But anyways, Mazda Speed 3, it has a lot going against it.
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But the actual driving of it is what we'll see.
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It has like the worst torque steer
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of any car I've ever driven.
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But that makes it fun because it feels chaotic.
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I'm like, you do a pole.
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It's like, holy shit, I'm going in the ditch.
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Like you are giggling and laughing.
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And it feels like it has way more power than it should.
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So I think those are slept on a little bit.
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People were doing some pretty gnarly builds on those things
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to like 6, 800, almost 1,000 horsepower builds on these things.
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That's just freaking nuts.
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Yeah, I don't know if you can find any more.
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I never ever, I feel like I don't see them
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and I don't see them for sale ever.
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Especially up here because the rust got to them so bad.
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The older Mazdas that year, they're so prone to rust.
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And yeah, the Mazda Speed 3s would always
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see the rust it out pretty bad.
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It is one of the cars I've learned, or the type of cars
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I've learned to enjoy more, I think,
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or respect more over the years because what you're just
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saying about it being chaotic, that is part of the fun.
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Like to have a car that feels like it's way
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scarier than it actually is.
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That's cool if you're not actively trying to race it
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or something like that.
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You put your buddies in that car,
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you let somebody test drive it, and they're like,
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holy crap, how do you drive this every day?
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I was like, damn, this thing
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must be making like 5,100 horsepower.
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That's all in good fun.
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Honestly, I'm sad Alex isn't here to hear this,
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but the Scion TC, that car shouldn't be good.
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That is good because you have Toyota reliability.
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Things ain't go for 300 miles, or 300,000 miles, no problem.
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It's gonna burn oil, but that's OK.
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You can add a little bit of oil when you fill up
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with gas, you'll be right.
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And dude, I've had my buddy, Neff, had one,
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and he drove like an hour and a half
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to work every day and back.
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So he racked up the miles.
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And dude, he has, we bought a big TV for our living room,
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and the guy's like, do you have like a truck
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or something to haul this?
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And I was like, no, my buddy has a TC.
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He's like, oh, it's not gonna fit.
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There's absolutely no way.
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You're gonna have to come pick it up or something.
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We're like, we're gonna try it.
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You open up the hatch.
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Dude, it slid right in, fit perfect.
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He's fit a Honda Grom back there
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in the back of his TC.
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So it's like, those are slept on.
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They are such a good daily driver.
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And honestly, I don't think TC's look that bad.
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I think they're decent looking cars for what they are.
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As those are the big square ones, they're the little coupes.
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I always forget, I mix them up.
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They also can be square.
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Yeah, the third, was it the third gen of them?
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Were like the really boxy squared ones.
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The XB was like the box.
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That's what I was thinking.
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That's the car learner.
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Honestly, those kind of, those kind of slap too.
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I kind of, the first gen XBs I have a soft spot for.
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I think they're super cool.
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I learned they aged well.
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Did you learn manualing, Joseph?
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Ford Escort, wagon.
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Oh, so I have the most part of my time.
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I don't know, the wagon was,
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they would call it putt-putt,
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because it rained on like three or four cylinders
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and it was rusted out and non-steelys.
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It was pretty flat.
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The thing was though,
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so we had this Ford Ranger
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and the plans were, my dad was gonna give it to me
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So I was like 14 and a half going on 15.
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And so he's like, you gotta learn how to drive this thing.
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So we're like out in the field.
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We were doing some work.
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He's like, get in and drive it.
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So I like, I did it and it went good.
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It was really easy.
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So from that point, I'm like, okay.
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I know how to drive stick.
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And then when I was like 17,
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I had a Mustang GT, automatic though.
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And I wanted to trade it.
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I wanted a Mark IV 1.8T.
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And it was the worst Mark IV
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in the history of the world.
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And I was a young naive kid
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and I wanted to trade my Mustang for this.
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So we went and my dad's like,
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yeah, you shouldn't trade for this thing.
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It's a piece of shit.
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I'm like, boost what I want.
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Like it had a big turbo on it,
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but it just needed a tune.
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The blow off valve wasn't working,
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A million things wrong.
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And I'm so like, yep, I want it.
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My dad's like, dude, your Mustang's perfect.
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What are you doing?
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So he's like, all right, let's do it.
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So we traded and we start driving it back home.
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And he's like, you better drive it.
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I'm like, okay, I know manual.
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I was stalling it left and right.
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I remember there's one red light we came up to
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and it turned green.
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I stalled it until it turned red again.
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And I had a line of cars behind me.
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They're all honking.
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Long story short about that too,
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that drive from, they lived in the same city,
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their house to my house.
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We found so many issues.
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We drove back and my dad was like, we're not doing this.
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You lied about so much on this car.
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We're not trading it.
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He actually signed the title when he shouldn't have to
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because his mom was on the title.
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So he's like, this ain't even legit, dude.
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Damn, he threw down it.
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I did not get that 1.8 TGTI.
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No, shout out to my dad.
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He saved my ass big time.
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Yeah, learning manual.
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I love trading shit for 1.8 T's.
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I think, yeah, I know, dude, my whole life.
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We should have Dale up here for the 20th when you traded that.
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He would have still had the wagon.
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I could trade for this thing.
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He would have talked me out of it.
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See, that's what happened when someone wasn't there
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to talk me out of it.
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But I think the car I really, really learned
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sticking was my Cobalt SS.
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That's the one I actually like drove, drove, you know.
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Yeah, it was a, we had that escort
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and that's what I learned essentially in.
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And it's like that was a good learning curve
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because there was no assistance in that thing
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and it grinded like every fucking hour
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and there was barely any clutch left.
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So it was like an on or off switch kind of thing.
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And so like when I got my Eclipse up and running,
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that was manual, you know, that was like,
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oh, this is beautiful, like it felt great.
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And then I had my E36, which was manual
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and then everything, pretty much everything
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that I've ever had has been manual
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except for the, the BMW.
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Yeah, see for me, it was that XB
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and it was at a car show we were hosting
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in the Wisconsin Dells.
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And the day before one of our buddies had an XB
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and he was like, dude, you're going to learn today.
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I was put in the car and I was like, all right.
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Is this during like auto motion?
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We had to have been.
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During auto motion.
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That's when you learned to race?
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That's a great time to learn manual.
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Yeah, what the fuck.
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Long story short, it did not go well.
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Like I got it on the block,
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but one of the staff,
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our contact at the event,
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the venue we were staying at,
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he got behind me at some point and he was like,
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man, it looked like you never drove manual before.
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Exactly what happened.
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I drove my buddy's BMW home one time
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when he was drinking,
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I just drove it home for him.
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And then two months later,
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I bought my first manual car
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and it flew to Ohio to go get it by myself.
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I had to drive it home.
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That's the best way to learn,
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just thrown into it.
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So the, I actually had just,
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this picture just popped up in my memories
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like two hours ago.
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I had a picture of the car
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because I pulled over after one of the toll boost
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because I stalled it.
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No, sorry, I didn't start,
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I put it in limp mode.
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Because I forgot to lift my foot off the gas
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when I put the clutch in.
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So it went to like $7 an RPM, went in limp mode.
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And I was like, I just broke my car.
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800 miles from home,
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just handed this guy a check and drove away.
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And I was like, it's already broken.
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Have you guys ever taught someone manual?
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I tried to teach my wife.
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I think she's more nervous about breaking my car
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than actually driving it.
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But she did a good job.
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Yeah, I think like I definitely helped my now wife,
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you know, at the time she was my girlfriend,
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how to drive stick.
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And now she has only owned stick.
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She's never even owned an auto.
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She was hesitant at first about it.
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I was like, no, do it.
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Like, I think you like it.
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And she's like, no, I don't want to do all that.
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And she got an NSRT-4 and learned in that.
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And then it's been history ever since.
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Now she won't get an auto,
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I've shown a few people how to do it.
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Me and my wife, I show how.
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And she's got the type R now.
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And she drives it literally every day.
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So she's gotten great at it.
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She's proficient at it now.
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But I remember I had my E36 and my buddies were visiting
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and it was my buddy Luke.
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And he's like, I want to learn how to drive manual
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So I was like, all right, hop in.
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You know, we're like in Wausau or whatever.
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And we're like by our college dorm.
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And it was like, all right, let's do it.
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And I was like, show them through this stuff.
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And I don't know, he couldn't get something right.
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But I just remember it was like when you're teaching someone
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and they obviously like, you know, okay,
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when something starts going wrong,
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you just put the clutch in, right?
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They, their instinct is like, okay,
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I'm just going to drop everything.
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So it's like off the gas, off the clutch,
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And it's just starts bucking like crazy.
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And then you try to hit the brakes
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if it just jerks even more.
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And they're like, wait, no, I'm going.
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So then they smash the gas dude.
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It was like you violent.
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Like fucking riding like a bucking Bronco.
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Dude, I just remember him doing that like three times.
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And he's, we're just dying laughing.
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Cause I'm like trying to explain it to him.
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And he just keeps trying it.
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Dude, like the glove box kept flying open.
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The fricking like visors were dropping down.
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Like shit was flying all over the place.
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He's like, I'm not doing this anymore.
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He's like, I give up this shit's too hard.
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That's funny because your natural instincts
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are the exact opposite of what you should do
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in those situations.
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So like everything you want to do,
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it just makes it worse.
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The only thing you do against the right
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is just both feet in.
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Like after driving manual for so long,
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I almost like forget what it was like to not know
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what to do and like looking at it
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from literally a blank slate.
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It's so weird to me that people can't drive manual.
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Like it's just a, I'm so used to it.
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I've had it since I was like 16, 17 years old.
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Yeah, but that's nuts.
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It's just so funny.
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Cause it's, yeah, it always brings me back too.
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It's like to when like teaching someone,
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it's like, oh my God, it's like,
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like how are you not getting this?
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And it's like, I remember it's like,
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I was in the same situation
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and it's like the muscle memory is just there now.
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It's literally what it is.
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like you just, you overthink it or you panic.
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It is, you 100% overthink it.
18:21
You're like, oh my gosh, I need to keep revving it.
18:25
It's like, no, just let it out.
18:25
It's going to, as long as you don't
18:27
just drop the fucking thing.
18:28
Like it's more times, you know, going to be,
18:30
you just, you think about it too much
18:32
and you start over complicating it
18:34
and then you start just doing things.
18:35
That's what happened when I kept stalling at the light
18:37
until it changed cause like people start honking.
18:39
I'm like, not even think I just turn it back on stall,
18:42
turn it back on stall.
18:43
Like just going like a foot forward each time,
18:45
like halfway in the intersection.
18:48
Oh, that is terrible.
18:49
You know what's not terrible though?
18:52
Oh, that's a pretty dang good.
18:53
They're the opposite of terrible.
18:54
They're my favorite.
18:55
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18:59
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19:00
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19:03
I want to check it out.
19:05
I haven't even got to try it yet.
19:07
I'm excited to try it though,
19:08
because if there's,
19:10
I don't even know what they could have improved on
19:11
from the Viking Contact 7.
19:13
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19:16
Now's a great time to get them
19:18
because it's before winter.
19:20
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19:21
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19:22
I should go get snow tires.
19:24
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19:25
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19:26
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19:36
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19:39
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19:40
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19:43
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19:44
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19:46
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19:53
We are getting near the end of show season of 2025,
19:59
It's coming to a wrap real quick.
20:02
And we're going to be heading down
20:03
to a slammed enough Severeville
20:05
and honestly a couple of weeks,
20:07
which is kind of crazy.
20:09
And for us, at least here in Wisconsin,
20:11
it's kind of like the end of the season
20:13
before winter really starts to kick in here.
20:15
So 2025, car show season getting wrapped up.
20:21
Trends, we like to talk about trends
20:22
of what we've seen this year,
20:23
what has been going on in the scene
20:25
or whether that's in person or on social media,
20:27
whatever it might be.
20:29
What do you think are some of the most
20:31
overhyped car trends right now that we've seen this year?
20:35
I got one that just, it won't die.
20:40
I figured by now it would be over
20:42
and it isn't Starlight headliners.
20:46
They just keep going on.
20:49
Cause like the first few were cool.
20:50
It was like, oh, it's neat.
20:51
Now when like every single overdone car show car has it
20:55
and I peer in, I'm sick of it.
20:58
You're ruining the headliners.
20:59
You got to do, there's so much fiber OPTIQ cable
21:02
that gets shoved into these things.
21:06
I don't, I feel like it is really one of those mods
21:08
where it's like, man, I've really kind of done
21:11
What else can I do to this?
21:12
And it's like, I can do the headliner thing.
21:15
Have you seen like the people started to do
21:18
like the Starlight like fender liners now?
21:22
I think it's in some of like the SUVs and like trucks
21:26
and kind of things that have like, you know,
21:28
you can actually see up in like the fender.
21:31
So like a lot of the fricking like fender liners
21:34
and stuff that you get, like they're like that fabric,
21:35
like almost like carpet types of they started to do it.
21:38
And I've seen it a couple of times now.
21:40
It's like, oh my God.
21:41
I have not seen that yet, but yeah.
21:43
I love a good interior.
21:45
Like I like VIP cars.
21:46
I think that's cool.
21:47
But yeah, it is getting to be a bit much.
21:48
Bring the chandeliers back, dude.
21:51
Bring a chandelier from your damn headliner.
21:53
That's why I want to see in a VIP car.
21:55
I'm over the Starlight.
21:56
Just give it a little while.
21:59
We'll bring it back and it'll be good again.
22:03
I know we've talked about it a lot on here
22:05
just in kind of in general
22:07
because it really blew up this year.
22:10
But the whole go get your Alibaba forged wheels
22:16
Like I'm so overseeing it, dude.
22:18
Like they're not good.
22:20
Stop pretending like they're good.
22:21
Like congrats that you got a $1,000 wheels
22:25
instead of $4,000 wheels, I guess.
22:28
But they're just not branded.
22:34
To me, it still feels like it's like some undercover
22:38
TikTok shop thing is what it feels like.
22:41
Like I'm just waiting for them to be like,
22:42
well, if you want to cheers, go here's a link for it.
22:44
And it's like a affiliate link or something shit.
22:46
Like it's, I don't know.
22:48
It just seems so weird.
22:50
It's supposed to be this whole like play on,
22:54
oh, stick it to the big brands and that kind of stuff.
22:57
But it's just like, I don't know.
22:58
It just feels weird.
23:00
The thing for me is like the whole point
23:02
is that you're investing your car to make it look cool
23:04
and to make it like your own.
23:06
And by, I'm all for saving money.
23:09
Like I don't mean it to sound like shit.
23:10
But when you buy like the cheapest part available,
23:14
like what does that say about what you're doing
23:16
Like how much do you care about what you're doing?
23:18
At the end of the day, you're just buying a cheap copy
23:20
of some of something else that you did like.
23:23
And I don't know, I'm with you.
23:25
I think it's ridiculous.
23:26
You know, like if it's your, again,
23:27
if it's your first car or something like,
23:29
like the whole rep conversation sound like,
23:31
that's cool, there's a place for that.
23:32
But the people who buy like forged wheels
23:34
and claim how great they are and stuff,
23:36
like you can tell it's not a good wheel
23:38
or even if it is a structurally sound wheel,
23:39
it doesn't look good.
23:40
You know, that's not.
23:41
Yeah, there's still something off about it.
23:43
It's like AI stuff.
23:45
It's like, you know,
23:45
it's how there's like just something weird.
23:47
It's like, that's how I feel about like these wheels.
23:48
It's like, cool, yeah, they might be forged.
23:51
They're probably made in like very similar factories
23:53
or the blanks are the same.
23:54
Like there are a lot of arguments for it
23:56
and I totally understand that,
23:57
but it's like, you know, it's like, it comes down to it's like,
24:00
there's just something off about it and it's weird.
24:04
And I've seen a video too where I watched
24:06
where a guy got him and he like reviewed him
24:09
and it seemed like a pretty genuine review
24:12
It was a full video.
24:13
It wasn't like a chart or whatever.
24:14
And yeah, I mean, he's like, he put them on
24:18
and he's like, yeah, I mean, they fit.
24:19
Even the hub bore was like correct,
24:21
but he's like, they claim they were forged
24:23
and like looking at the weight of these,
24:25
I'm pretty sure these aren't forged.
24:27
So formed or something.
24:28
Yeah, like they're just cast, whatever.
24:30
Yeah, so I think there's a lot of misinformation with them
24:34
and we don't know the testing
24:36
that's actually been done with them
24:37
and the quality control that are on these.
24:39
So it's just, it's not a great look.
24:43
At the end of the day with all these types of,
24:44
like this inherent type of business,
24:46
you know, they're selling it for so cheap
24:48
because they're cutting every cost imaginable.
24:50
So like all this stuff, like the design,
24:52
the edges, the finish, the paint,
24:54
the durability of the wheel, the packaging,
24:56
like they're screwing you on all of that.
25:00
And making it, you know.
25:01
Yeah, because essentially what they're doing
25:03
is that they may make wheels
25:05
for a brand that you know, right?
25:07
And they'll literally take that design
25:10
but make it just to whatever standard
25:13
can get it out the door.
25:15
They're not holding it to the standard
25:16
of whatever brand went through that factory
25:18
to make that wheel to then get it out the door.
25:20
Cause like, even when we worked with
25:22
aftermarket wheel factories in the past
25:25
when we were doing our own stuff,
25:26
it was like, yes, obviously the factory
25:29
that we went with, we're making other wheels,
25:32
like absolutely a hundred percent,
25:34
but we were so adamant on like what we wanted
25:38
out of them and like provided so much pressure
25:40
to that manufacturer of like,
25:42
this wheel needs to be this load rating
25:45
and it needs to hit this weight.
25:48
Like no questions asked.
25:49
Cause every time they come back to us,
25:50
they're like, well, this is what we need to do.
25:51
It's like, you can do better than that.
25:53
And like we, you know, worked with them
25:55
and fought like tooth and nail to like
25:56
get that design to where it needed to be
25:58
and get the weight where it needed to be,
25:59
get the load rating where it needed to be,
26:00
get the lip design where it needed to be.
26:02
So it was like, yeah, you could easily,
26:04
it always down like the branding
26:07
is more than just branding.
26:08
Like for some, you know, companies out there,
26:11
it's like they provide so much input to that
26:13
to make it an actual better quality wheel.
26:16
So it's at, you might get something made
26:17
in the same factory, it might be the same design,
26:19
but it's like there's more that goes into it
26:22
than that, that really makes that wheel what it is.
26:25
And the same thing applies to every wheel brand
26:27
you can imagine, you know, even the,
26:28
even the lower tier, you know, brands or products,
26:31
they all still have that amount of pressure
26:33
behind the scenes to those factors that say,
26:35
like you're going to do this the way we want it,
26:36
right, to weigh our customers.
26:37
Or we're going to go somewhere else.
26:38
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
26:39
Because none of these brands would survive
26:41
if all their wheels were truly bad or horrible, right?
26:44
But these faceless, you know, factories
26:46
that just make you a wheel for a thousand bucks
26:48
or whatever, they don't give a shit.
26:51
I don't know. That is what it is.
26:52
I guess it was just, it's trying to,
26:56
it seems like it's trying to be like marketed,
26:59
essentially, as you no longer need to buy these,
27:03
these wheels, like you're stupid
27:04
if you go buy expensive wheels.
27:06
And it's like, I don't know about all that, right?
27:09
What about you, Lars, you got any?
27:11
For me, especially after dealing with a car
27:15
behind us back here over the last year,
27:18
Okay. The unnecessary engine swaps.
27:21
Oh, wow, that's a hot take.
27:22
That we see in so many cars.
27:23
And I'm not talking, you know, the car is broken,
27:25
I'm going to put an LS in it.
27:26
You know, that's honestly my plan
27:27
of the E46 ever blows up.
27:29
But like, there's so many swaps,
27:33
like they get a car running perfectly normal.
27:35
And they're like, I'm going to stick something else
27:37
in it just because, you know, like for show cars
27:41
I just, I don't get it.
27:42
Like why would you say a perfectly functioning car
27:45
and then do, you know, months worth of work
27:48
and you end up with effectively the same thing?
27:50
I think sometimes it's to be unique.
27:53
It's to make difference, to make your car
27:54
even more individualistic.
27:58
But I get what you're saying 100%
28:00
especially because I've seen so many times
28:01
where it like causes catastrophic issues
28:04
and problems and it's a money pit
28:06
and now, you know, working on it, it's a nightmare
28:08
because everything's custom, everything's different,
28:11
everything's changed.
28:12
But there's a cool factor to it for me too
28:15
because I know how much work it takes
28:17
to get something to that point.
28:19
But I get what you're saying with it being like,
28:22
is that work even worth it?
28:24
You know, some of these, you're making like
28:25
50 horsepower mark and you did that whole engine swap
28:28
and your car was running fine beforehand.
28:30
I respect all the work that goes
28:31
into the good ones, of course.
28:33
Those people are craftsmen and they're good at what they do.
28:37
It's just from my perspective,
28:38
I'm from mostly driving cars being forced to work on my car
28:41
now that it's broken.
28:43
I can't understand it, it's so odd to me.
28:47
What's going on with your car?
28:49
Oh man, that's right.
28:50
I haven't talked about this yet.
28:51
Open the can of worms.
28:53
Yeah, so I had good life, we're having a good time.
28:56
I knew I was gonna have to swap rotors
28:58
and probably pads at some point during the weekend.
29:00
I was doing time attack of course
29:02
in the M3 and every time we changed something on the car,
29:07
it just kept making it worse until Saturday morning,
29:10
which is like the full on the go for it day
29:13
to get into the qualifying sessions.
29:18
Everything was going great.
29:19
Saturday morning I had probably my best session ever,
29:21
my fastest time in that car ever at Road America
29:23
and then around lunchtime they had a grid walk.
29:26
So they asked all the time attack drivers
29:28
to get their cars, park them in the grid
29:30
and have fans or whatever come check them out,
29:32
get pictures and so on, talk to the drivers.
29:35
And as I'm in line parking, the grid is up a hill
29:39
and then it's not perfectly level-y,
29:40
so it's on both edges kind of rolls down.
29:43
So I come up, wait for my turn,
29:44
I have my manual car, we're talking about clutch in,
29:47
foot on the brake, the car starts rolling backwards.
29:51
I was like, that's not good.
29:53
Yeah, so when we finally got the,
29:54
I just hit the parking brake when I felt it,
29:58
stopped the car, oh, popped the hood
29:59
and as people were trying to get pictures of it,
30:00
I'm like messing around with the brake fluid,
30:02
trying to look at the rotors and pads and stuff,
30:04
and everything looked fine.
30:05
And long story short, we blew something in the brake system
30:10
and I say something because here we are four weeks later
30:13
and I still don't know what it is.
30:13
Really been chasing it and trying everything essentially,
30:18
Yeah, we, well again, I never work on cars very often
30:21
at least, so I decided to change the master cylinder
30:25
myself, which was a whole ordeal, took a week
30:28
because we ordered the wrong part
30:30
and getting to it as a pain in the ass
30:32
and getting it back in was even worse.
30:35
Bleeding the system and so on.
30:36
And yeah, put everything back together,
30:39
blood the system a bunch of times,
30:40
asphalt from literally dozens of people have reached out,
30:42
which was super awesome.
30:44
And feels exactly the same as the day I parked it.
30:47
Oh, there's literally nothing worse
30:50
than chasing your tail with the brake system.
30:52
It is the most frustrating process in the world
30:57
of going through the steps to bleed a system,
31:00
especially even if it's up in the air.
31:02
It's still such a pain in the ass.
31:04
I know you were doing stuff with the ABS module
31:07
and you were purging it and had a computer hooked up
31:09
to it and doing all this stuff
31:11
and it was literally following the steps of Tia
31:13
and it was still just not doing it.
31:15
That is the worst feeling ever.
31:18
And that's 100%, it's a mess and I don't really
31:21
know what I'm doing, I'm just following YouTube videos
31:23
and there's not any specifically on changing
31:25
the master cylinder on an M3 and we're just slightly
31:28
different and stuff.
31:29
So I was like winging it as I go with the help of
31:31
gels or dust and whoever else was around.
31:34
And then I had this like tool hooked up
31:36
that I thought was working and then
31:39
the other parts that could be failing,
31:40
everybody kept telling me they fail in one way
31:42
and then what's happening with my car
31:43
is actually something else.
31:44
But now that everything's back together,
31:46
they're like, well, it's probably the other thing
31:48
And like having to start this week long process
31:50
over again to try if it's another $700 part
31:53
or something like that.
31:54
I'm not even sure what it is.
31:55
So at this point, I'm pretty sure we're just
31:57
going to delete the whole system and replace it with-
32:02
It's parking brake everywhere.
32:05
And then replace it with a system
32:06
that gets rid of the booster completely
32:08
and the ABS module at this point.
32:10
It'll just go more towards the race car setup, I suppose.
32:14
So we're just working on some stuff
32:15
to see if we can get a partnership for that
32:17
or what that looks like.
32:19
So I think overall the car will be better for it
32:22
But it sucks because it's middle of summer.
32:25
We have, realistically, like a month or so left
32:28
And I was hoping I could bring it to Gatlinburg
32:30
because I didn't really drive it there last year
32:32
because I just bought the M5.
32:34
And I'm pretty sure none of that's going to happen.
32:36
So the car's probably going to be in storage
32:38
until spring at this point with some other stuff
32:41
Yeah, it's the reality of it.
32:42
Sometime, unfortunately.
32:43
I'm glad that these issues didn't happen
32:46
while you were driving it on track.
32:48
Brakes are like one of the scariest things.
32:50
The tires, tires and brakes, you need
32:52
to have 100% trust in when you're racing on the track.
32:56
So for me, I mean, I guess if you delete the whole system,
33:00
And you do a new system, OK.
33:02
But even if you were to find and fix the issue,
33:05
I feel like it would just be in the back of my head.
33:09
And I've been up on the podcast a bunch of times now.
33:12
And what I've always taught or preached
33:14
is safety and reliability and brakes especially.
33:16
So I totally agree with you.
33:18
And I'm really glad I decided not to go out.
33:19
Because part of me was just go out on the track
33:21
and see what happens, right?
33:25
But you're absolutely right.
33:26
I'm really, really glad I didn't.
33:27
Because even just driving, I test drove it
33:29
after everything was back together.
33:31
And at the very, very bottom of the pedal,
33:34
it feels almost normal.
33:37
At the track, the car gets to 140 miles an hour down
33:42
There's a wall at the end.
33:44
I don't know what happened.
33:50
I'm glad I stuck to what I said.
33:51
Like you said, we're six in the back of your mind too.
33:53
I remember we did the clutch on the GTT too.
33:57
And same thing, we got to bleed the system and everything
34:01
We were running into issues like just chasing an air pocket
34:05
And I was working with Lars on it.
34:07
And we're like, does it feel different than before?
34:13
Is this always how it felt?
34:17
Does it still need to be blood more after bleeding
34:19
it for two hours straight and doing the process 30 times?
34:23
I'm bleeding, Pete.
34:24
No, I think it's still weird.
34:26
And that's what was going on with the M3 also.
34:28
That's why I decided to go test drive it.
34:30
Because as I'm, again, this was over the course of,
34:32
I think the car's going to lift six or seven days of just
34:34
me working on it every day.
34:36
And just testing the brakes, bleeding it, testing them
34:38
again, bleeding it, starting the car and so on.
34:40
And the big thing that was happening
34:41
is when the car is off is a really firm pedal.
34:44
And the moment I turned the car on,
34:45
it would sink to the floor, same amount of pressure.
34:48
There's no resistance behind it.
34:49
And then I got in the M5 one morning to drive to work.
34:52
And I realized that it does the same thing.
34:56
But obviously the M5 brake worked fine.
34:58
Everything's great on that car.
34:59
So in my head, I started gaslighting myself.
35:01
I was like, maybe the M3's been fine this whole time.
35:03
Maybe it was something else.
35:04
Maybe there was an air bubble or something
35:05
was wrong with the ABS module.
35:06
Maybe something had to hiccup.
35:08
And that's why I went to drive it.
35:09
I'm like, maybe it's fine, actually.
35:11
And I get out of the lot.
35:12
And I'm like, there's no brakes.
35:13
There's no brakes to brake on.
35:17
God, I hate brake shit, man.
35:20
Not only is it just a pain in the ass to work on.
35:28
And it's like, it eats through paint
35:30
so you can't really spill it on anything.
35:33
Then you're constantly wiping it down.
35:35
And it's like, it just gets everywhere.
35:38
It's such a clean up, too.
35:44
You know what doesn't suck?
35:48
The second time you get so away with it.
35:52
Yeah, they're good.
35:53
Yeah, that's a car trend that can keep on going.
35:56
You know what I'm saying?
35:57
Fortunato coilovers.
35:59
500 series are going to be perfect for, I'd say,
36:02
probably 90% of you.
36:03
And then the other 10% rascals that take it even further,
36:06
510s are a great option.
36:08
Or maybe I should say 9%.
36:09
And then 1%, they got even crazier stuff with them.
36:14
Million-way, maybe.
36:16
As much as you want, because they build custom coilovers, too.
36:18
So if you need a dial-in menu on custom spring rates,
36:22
different valving, all that stuff,
36:24
Fortunato can do it.
36:25
But they also have pre-made ready to go right off
36:28
the shelf for your car.
36:30
So if you're heading on over to Martini Works
36:32
and you look at Fortunato coilovers,
36:34
they now make them for a ton of different makes and models.
36:36
So there's a good chance they have them for what you drive.
36:39
And I personally ran them since I was 19 years old.
36:43
And I will continue to run them on my cars
36:45
because I love Fortunato coilovers
36:47
before they ever twinkle in the podcast eye.
36:50
We've been running Fortunato, so I'm just ecstatic
36:53
that they've been a partner of our podcast
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37:20
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And we'll be right back.
37:27
Have you grumpy old man for a second?
37:30
I had a realization of something last night.
37:34
Stopped at the old KT quick trip.
37:36
Yep, love quick trip.
37:38
If you didn't know, me too.
37:39
If you didn't know, you can pretty much order anything
37:44
for fucking delivery nowadays.
37:47
And I saw at the quick trip by my place
37:50
that they have a pickup shelf for DoorDash or Uber Eats
37:57
People order from quick trip.
37:58
It's a gas station, by the way.
38:00
First of all, the fact that they even have this
38:04
But I was like, wow, they have this whole setup
38:08
And then I looked at it.
38:09
And there was one item on this shelf.
38:11
And you want to know what it was?
38:13
It was a single bottle of Diet Doctor Pepper
38:18
that someone must have DoorDashed or did something.
38:22
And then I got to thinking, I'm like, man, I always
38:25
bitch about how we go out any time of the day,
38:28
anywhere nowadays, and it feels like there's just
38:30
a million people on the road.
38:31
I'm like, what the hell are these people doing?
38:34
They're fucking, they're all DoorDash and bottles
38:36
of Diet Doctor Pepper to people.
38:38
That's exactly what's going on.
38:39
Because what in the hell?
38:41
That's a $15 bottle of Diet Doctor Pepper all day.
38:44
OK, how could you possibly need that bottle that bad?
38:47
I'd like to get it.
38:48
Are you guys guilty of that?
38:50
I have never DoorDashed a single item ever in my life.
38:54
I have DoorDashed food, like dinner or whatever.
38:57
Especially when you're sick or something,
38:59
maybe it just has it dropped off right at your door.
39:02
But then I get re-sick because I look at how much
39:04
I paid to have Taco Bell dropped off at my door.
39:07
And it's like 50 bucks.
39:10
I used to get Starbucks delivered to the old office
39:15
And then the same thing happened.
39:16
I saw a $15 cup of coffee, and I was like, never again.
39:19
Yeah, it's insane how more expensive it is.
39:22
It's funny, it'll be like the weekend or something
39:25
It'll be like Sunday morning.
39:27
And it'll be like, man, McDonald's breakfast
39:30
But I don't want to go get McDonald's breakfast.
39:32
And it's like, OK, if we were to go get it,
39:35
it's like 15 bucks for both of us.
39:38
If we were to get it delivered, I shit you not.
39:39
It's like triple the price.
39:40
It's like $40 for the same exact thing.
39:43
Yeah, what I do now, and I've been consistently doing it,
39:46
whether it's like Starbucks, McDonald's, whatever,
39:48
I just order ahead.
39:50
Because pretty much any fast food place or drink place
39:54
has an app or whatever.
39:56
And it's all contactless.
39:58
It's like the most seamless thing.
40:01
I just walk in, grab my shit, and I go,
40:03
I don't have talked to anyone.
40:04
I don't have to wait in line.
40:05
I don't have to do anything.
40:05
And that makes it easy.
40:07
Plus, we live in town, so anything is within four minutes.
40:12
So I just convince myself to go fucking get it.
40:13
For me, it's become, if I can't be bothered
40:16
to drive the 10, 15 minutes, even across town
40:18
to go get Chick-fil-A or something all the way
40:20
across town for me, if I'm not willing to invest
40:23
15 minutes to go drive over there, I don't need it.
40:25
I don't want it that bad.
40:26
Yeah, I don't know.
40:28
Sorry, I just hit a rant about it first.
40:30
So I was like, dude, that's crazy.
40:32
Everyone's going to want to all fucking do it.
40:34
I'll just, I won't even have a good reason and I'll do it.
40:39
I've never done it from a gas station.
40:40
I didn't even know you could.
40:41
Yeah, it's even food in the last like five years now.
40:44
Like even pizza, I've gone to pick up pizza now.
40:48
Yeah, I saw that and I was like, that is actually insane.
40:51
Like you said that was like, that's a $15 bottle of diet.
40:53
Dr. Beller, you have to tip the driver.
40:56
I swear too, like they upcharge in whatever,
41:00
like it's not the normal price of what it is.
41:02
It's an additional fee bill.
41:05
But anyways, speaking of driving and going somewhere yourself,
41:10
we're heading over to Final Bout this weekend,
41:12
which is a big deal.
41:14
Final Bout is a huge deal and it's so crazy
41:17
because it's hidden in this little town in Toronto, Wisconsin.
41:21
And people come from around the world.
41:24
Yeah, we're just spoiled by USA.
41:26
Yeah, honestly, yeah, like 40 minute drive
41:28
and absolutely insane venue and insane event
41:32
going to be going on.
41:33
I've actually never been.
41:37
You literally drift at USA and you haven't gone to Final Bout.
41:39
I know, it's crazy.
41:40
I'm really looking forward to going up there this weekend.
41:44
It'll be Friday, which is like,
41:45
I think people start like kind of rolling in
41:47
and stuff on Friday.
41:48
For those of people listening right now
41:50
that don't know what Final Bout is,
41:52
you want to give a quick rundown?
41:53
Yeah, it's basically like, imagine like the dopest
41:56
looking Japanese like drift cars,
41:59
like car show quality, just getting down.
42:03
From around the country.
42:04
Around the country, yeah.
42:06
I remember there's a world actually.
42:08
Because we saw the group that hauls our cars to Gallenburg
42:12
hauls the cars from the port to Shawnaw.
42:14
It's so insane, nutty.
42:16
Yeah, so if you guys are on like Instagram
42:19
or TikTok or whatever,
42:20
you've probably seen some like crazy car haulers
42:23
just loaded with like these drift cars.
42:25
Yeah, they're coming up to fricking Shawnaw, Wisconsin.
42:27
It's in the middle of nowhere.
42:29
Like when you pull up to the U.S. air.
42:30
It's a foreign land, Wisconsin.
42:31
Yeah, there's nothing around it.
42:33
And you even got to drive.
42:34
You drive like 10 minutes to get into town
42:36
and it's a weird hand to town.
42:38
And you got like a McDonald's,
42:40
culvers, couple gas stations that are off branded.
42:44
And it's so crazy to think people come from
42:46
all around the world to this event.
42:48
And a lot of people really enjoyed it.
42:50
You know, like Hurt comes up here and Drifts there.
42:53
And there's a lot of big names that show up.
42:55
And then the, yeah, the quality of cars.
42:57
It's a rolling car show.
42:59
So, I mean, we're not like being paid to say this,
43:02
but come hang out at Final Bout.
43:04
Say hi to us if you see us there.
43:05
We'll be filming some content
43:06
and hanging out with the people there.
43:08
And then we have some friends that drift
43:11
and help do the event and everything like that.
43:15
And also if like, if you're like driving this weekend,
43:18
you got a car up there or something like that.
43:20
We're going to be walking around with cameras
43:21
or like Dakota said we'll be doing videos
43:23
and stuff like that.
43:24
If you want something done on your car, come grab us.
43:28
We're looking to shoot as much as possible.
43:30
Come pull me aside literally
43:31
because like otherwise we're going to walk around
43:33
and bug people and literally ask if they want.
43:35
So if you have something
43:36
or your buddy drives something or whatever,
43:39
you know, sometimes we even,
43:41
we won't bug the drivers.
43:42
We'll go bug the people that are watching
43:44
and asking goofy questions and stuff.
43:45
So we'll be running around there.
43:46
But it really is such a cool show.
43:49
And if you've never been to US Air,
43:50
it is a neat track.
43:54
The roller coaster of love.
43:56
I've been fortunate enough to do some ride-alongs.
43:59
And I guess I've driven my Supra on that.
44:01
Not drifting, but just go carting around essentially.
44:05
And but the elevation change
44:07
and like the blind corners that are in it
44:10
And you get some like just absolutely like crazy
44:13
like fricking like trains going on there.
44:15
You got like five, six, 10 cars.
44:17
It's like, holy shit.
44:18
And you're going to see some wall taps.
44:20
You're going to see some crazy stuff.
44:22
Some crazy cars that just sound so good.
44:27
Like I said, I've never actually gone.
44:28
But I've followed like the stuff on socials forever.
44:31
Like see all the content that comes out of it.
44:33
Obviously like you guys have been, Brent's been.
44:36
And knowing people that have gone and like drive in it.
44:39
Yeah, the caliber of cars is insane.
44:41
They do like the, they line them all up on the track.
44:45
So you can go walk out there and check them out.
44:47
And it's like, dude, these,
44:48
the wheels that these people are drifting on.
44:51
The kits that these cars have
44:52
that are eventually just going to get destroyed.
44:54
Like the paint work that's done on them.
44:57
Like you'd be terrified to do what they're doing
45:02
Like terrified to drive it on the street,
45:04
let alone doing what they're doing.
45:06
And yeah, it literally is just all about the style
45:10
and all about like, yeah, the love of the game.
45:11
And it dude, it's something else.
45:13
It's a sight to see.
45:14
Yeah. And it's just, it's such a cool track.
45:17
Last time I was there,
45:18
I believe they're running shuttles too.
45:20
So you actually like parked in Shawno shirt on a bus
45:23
and then the bus would take you back home and people.
45:25
I think that's always, always what kind of like,
45:27
oh man, there's going to be a ton of people there.
45:29
Yeah. It wasn't bad though.
45:30
It was perfectly fine.
45:31
It wasn't a big deal.
45:33
They usually, they usually turn that farm field.
45:34
That's like, again, just farm all around the track.
45:37
The one right next to it.
45:38
There's a big part of it that gets turned into like a parking
45:40
lot and like a grass parking lot.
45:42
I remember parking the M2 back there one of the years.
45:44
It's, it's, it's a little rough.
45:46
I would definitely recommend parking in town to the bus.
45:48
I'm really looking forward to that.
45:49
I think it's going to be super dope.
45:51
It's a sick event where I think we're really,
45:52
like we forget sometimes,
45:53
we're very blessed to have that in our backyard.
45:55
We're in such a, like a gem of an area between, you know,
45:58
USA or North America.
46:00
We have our own drag strip, you know,
46:01
10 minutes the other way.
46:02
Yeah, WR is really popping.
46:04
It's, it's a cool place to be.
46:05
We can do anything motor sports we want.
46:07
Also, that's an hour away.
46:09
If you've never watched drifting,
46:10
it's a million times cooler in person than it is on TV.
46:16
And I think too, if I remember correctly,
46:18
they do night drifting.
46:21
I'm pretty sure they did last year.
46:22
I can't remember if it was a different event
46:23
or it was Final About,
46:24
but I remember going there, like all the underglow
46:26
and the lights and like, like it's so sick.
46:29
I know like, like real dash that they host up there.
46:30
Oh, maybe that's what I was like,
46:31
is a big one for like the night drifting stuff.
46:33
Gotcha. So maybe that's what I, I seen.
46:36
Final About has, they have to do.
46:37
Cause they, they have the big lights
46:38
that they'll like pull out and put on the track.
46:44
I used to, you know what used to be my favorite part
46:46
of going to US Air?
46:49
The cans of V8 and it was dirt cheap, dude.
46:53
Everything there, the snacks, the drinks,
46:54
everything was dirt cheap.
46:55
Like I was like, where else can I go?
47:00
But I don't know if they have V8 anymore or so.
47:01
No, I don't think they have.
47:03
And Michael, if you're listening,
47:06
if you want to make Dakota a happy boy,
47:08
it doesn't have to be much.
47:09
Just, just, just get a case.
47:12
A spicy hot V8 in the can.
47:14
Yeah. It's like the secret menu
47:15
at the USA or like Snack Shack.
47:18
I think I have a photo somewhere.
47:19
Well, Maya and I both got one.
47:20
We took a picture like, what?
47:21
Capably we were cheers in front of a 240.
47:27
But it's a good time for sure.
47:30
Yeah, it's like, Lars said too,
47:32
it's, you know, I think we've, you know,
47:34
grown up here, we've, you know,
47:36
experienced it so much that it's a kind of forget
47:38
sometimes like how special that place is.
47:39
And it's like, I specifically remember
47:41
going to buy my 240 to learn how to drift in.
47:46
Went to Kansas to go buy it.
47:47
The guy I was buying it from,
47:49
been in the scene a long time.
47:51
Like he built that car specifically
47:53
in like the early 2000s.
47:58
And he's like, oh, yeah.
47:59
You don't like first drift car.
48:00
They'd be good for you.
48:01
That kind of stuff.
48:02
He's like, you know, we got a track near you.
48:04
And it's like, oh yeah.
48:05
We got like USA or like 40 minutes away.
48:06
And like, he literally like dropped what he had.
48:08
He's like, are you fucking kidding me?
48:11
I was like, he's like,
48:12
I have been wanting to go up there for decades.
48:15
And like is like my dream to drive that.
48:17
He's like, I cannot believe that this car,
48:19
you're going to be learning how to drift in this car
48:22
I was like, yeah, it's like right up the road.
48:25
I have talked to like influencers and stuff
48:27
for like anytime they don't know where Wisconsin is
48:31
It's like, well, I'm like 40 minutes from US air.
48:36
And then they know it's like, it's crazy.
48:38
It's a little go-kart track.
48:41
It's a, the payment there is interesting too.
48:45
Yeah, it's not friendly.
48:46
It'll really tear your shit up.
48:48
It's not easy on tire.
48:50
No, but it's a hood of a time.
48:52
And we've been playing it on driving it on a set of Corsa
48:57
or is that what we're on?
48:59
It's been really thrown down on the, on the sim.
49:00
And it's actually a, it's interesting
49:02
because our fanatic hydro like went out on us.
49:06
So we're handbrake ain't working.
49:07
The handbrake wasn't working,
49:09
but it's like I still want to.
49:10
Real cars don't work.
49:11
Fake cars don't work.
49:11
I'm fucking over it.
49:12
It's like, God damn it.
49:13
It's been fun though.
49:14
It's been trying to teach me a drift on there
49:16
and getting the hang of it.
49:18
Yeah. I was going to say, so it's like,
49:19
we haven't had it hooked up.
49:20
Like the handbrake hooked up.
49:21
But Brent's like, fuck it, learn how do you,
49:23
learn how to drive all the handbrake.
49:24
And it's like, okay.
49:25
So honestly, like that has been kind of really eye opening
49:29
of like what you can do without a handbrake.
49:32
Very lot difficult, very big change up
49:36
from what I'm used to, obviously.
49:38
But it's been pretty cool.
49:40
And it's been a lot of fun.
49:41
Yeah. And practicing a lot on, on there since,
49:44
So if you're listening from afar,
49:46
go on a set of Corsa and you can go on US Air
49:49
and you can see where we'll be hanging out.
49:51
And then maybe you can make the trip up some point
49:52
to check out Final Bouter, any other event.
49:55
Yeah. If you're around in like the Midwest
49:58
and love drifting or motorsport or anything like that,
50:01
definitely should be on like your bucket list.
50:02
So come check out at least one.
50:03
Also within the last two years or so,
50:05
they've really amped up US Air and like cleaned it up
50:08
and made it really nice.
50:09
Yeah. Facilities way improved.
50:12
Yeah. They're adding like a lot more like seating
50:14
and like a lot just upgrades to the place.
50:18
Because it's been there for a long time.
50:21
They made it look really frickin' nice.
50:23
Yeah. A lot of like the scoring towers
50:25
and like buildings have like new roofs and glass put in.
50:28
And yeah. It's a really nice area.
50:31
Definitely. I'd say one of the coolest events you can go to.
50:34
Yeah. I'm looking forward to it for that.
50:36
It was a really cool, what was that?
50:38
Bruce City Banger. That was a really crazy event too though.
50:40
That one really surprised me too.
50:42
I wasn't sure what to expect for that one.
50:43
And that one turned out to be a lot of fun.
50:45
That one was so cool though because this one was as bad
50:48
but like it was like almost so sketchy.
50:50
Yeah. That it was cool.
50:53
People kept smacking walls over there.
50:55
It was really fast.
50:56
They were hocking dude.
50:57
They were full sending it going fast.
51:00
Literally it was like a formula drift like layout essentially
51:05
with like the amount of speed and stuff
51:07
that was required for that and like the power
51:09
that you would have to have.
51:10
Because like that layout was no joke dude.
51:14
So what they did was, if you guys don't know,
51:16
it was the Milwaukee mile, the race track,
51:19
which is like a little oval track.
51:20
Well I say little, it's a mile long.
51:21
And there's an infield section which is a road course
51:24
and that's the section that they drifted.
51:28
It's a really fast track car and like a grip car
51:30
so even drifting was crazy.
51:32
Yeah. It was crazy because like our booth was set up
51:34
because we had like a tent there
51:36
where we were selling something merch and stuff
51:37
and hanging out and doing videos.
51:38
It was like kind of like right when they'd enter in
51:42
and then they come around this like big long like sweeper
51:45
and then it'd like come up right against like this wall
51:47
and it was like a sharp like U-turn essentially
51:49
and then out to the exit.
51:51
And so like everyone's kind of like standing
51:52
against this wall that they're like hauling ass at.
51:55
And like man they're really moving
51:58
because like they shoot out from that side there.
52:00
But then we walked up to like where like the start was
52:05
and it's like they start on like in front
52:07
of like the grandstands and then they come into the infield
52:10
and they're moving even quicker, dude.
52:12
Like they were hauling ass.
52:16
Yeah. It's not really.
52:17
If you haven't though like gone
52:19
to any motor sports events are doing it.
52:21
Like I think a good portion
52:22
when I got into cars and stuff
52:24
I pretty much just went to car shows, car meets
52:26
and stuff like that and never really went
52:27
to like drift events or road America or any of that.
52:30
Now I've gotten the opportunity to do a bunch of that
52:32
and I love it so much.
52:36
And like too if you can score a ride along
52:39
I don't know if they'll be doing my final ball
52:40
but they do events all the time.
52:43
Head up there, go do it, check it out, do something different.
52:47
You don't have to be like a drifter
52:49
to go watch drifting or anything like that.
52:51
You can go just for the love of it and it's a blast.
52:54
And it's cool because especially these again
52:56
final ball it's a huge event
52:57
but a lot of the events at USA
52:58
are relatively small grassroots like like Bruce Lee Banger
53:01
you could walk up to any of the cars in the pits
53:04
and just start talking to people.
53:05
And people are gonna be busy.
53:06
Maybe they're fixing something or whatever.
53:07
They may not wanna chat but nine times out of 10
53:10
they're happy to answer any questions
53:12
they have about the cars or how they got started
53:14
or any tips they have for you.
53:16
Same thing at the road America events we've gone to.
53:18
If they're not actively working on the car
53:20
usually just chill in the trailer anyway.
53:22
Go say hi, ask me if you can check out the car.
53:24
Sometimes like I've seen people bring their kids up there
53:27
and the kids can sit in the cars and stuff.
53:29
That's super common.
53:31
You can usually read the room.
53:33
they're having a bad time.
53:34
We just blew up this car.
53:35
I'm not gonna talk to them right now.
53:36
Or something like that.
53:37
But like most of the time if not 99% of the time
53:42
everyone is so excited to talk to you,
53:45
talk about their car, what they have done to it.
53:46
Everyone's so chill, everyone's so nice.
53:49
So you gotta be intimidated at all.
53:50
Yeah, it's a great way to make friends.
53:52
100% or like two if you're interested
53:54
maybe you are thinking about getting into drifting
53:56
or something like that.
53:57
Those are the people to talk to.
53:58
100%, that's really where I got bit by the bug of it.
54:04
Of like, I really should just do this.
54:06
I've always wanted to do it.
54:07
I was like, oh, it'd be really cool to do.
54:08
And then it's like I went
54:10
and I did a couple of ride-alongs.
54:11
I was like, damn, this isn't as intimidating
54:14
as I thought it would be and the community is there.
54:18
I'm just gonna do this.
54:22
Well, if you need your car to look good
54:24
when you're on your way to final bout
54:27
or maybe when you pull up,
54:28
make sure you have some Melco detailing.
54:31
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54:33
We've been using Melco to clean up all of our stuff
54:35
and we've had a few track days recently
54:37
and the cars have needed Jesus
54:39
and Jesus so happened to be Melco
54:41
because it saved them.
54:43
I swear there's some time, I look at the car
54:45
Let it come back from that.
54:47
And then we're able to get it back
54:49
and looks great with Melco.
54:50
So we bring it to the track.
54:51
We bring it to the shows.
54:53
We have it all stocked up here in the shop.
54:54
So when we pull in, we wipe our stuff down
54:56
and we keep buying white wheels.
54:57
I don't know what the hell is wrong with us.
54:59
They just look good on the car, man.
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I don't know what the hell they are.
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They look good when they're clean.
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Man, the brake dust.
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The brake dust you guys create, I have never seen before.
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The Melco did a great job though.
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Like no kidding, the wheel and tire cleaner
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gets rid of that brake dust super easy.
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The chrome wheels actually look chrome again on the M3.
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Yeah, but yours were.
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I'm very impressed.
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I took them off and dumped it out
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and the whole pilot dust came out.
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Yeah, I needed to film a video with Lars' car.
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I was like, god damn.
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Their soap is really good.
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The cherry flash detailer is phenomenal.
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Pretty much every product we've used.
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Really, yeah, the glass cleaner is super good as well.
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So head on over to Martini Works.
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We have packages so you can get a group of products
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Or if you need to order them individually,
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you can do that as well.
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But that's right on our website.
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So you can head on over to martiniworks.com.
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And a huge thank you to Melco for being a sponsor
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of Martini Works podcast.
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And Lars, thank you for coming on.
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Thanks for having me, guys.
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Well, you guys have a great weekend.
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If you're in the area, come out and check out FinalBow.
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Yeah, we'll see you there.