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Hey everyone. Good evening. Welcome to the EV show by Ludacris Feed Live. I'm Tom, your host.
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Thanks for joining us. Well, I'm coming to you from a very wet Sydney. Yes, we had a taste
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of spring last week and earlier this week, and then suddenly boom, the rain is back
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in droves. Unfortunately, it is very wet in Sydney. Hope it's nice where you are
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in Australia or anywhere else you're watching in the world. Thanks for joining us tonight.
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Should be a good one. Lots to chat about as always. Let's welcome our special guest
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for this evening, our regular special guest, actually, at Mr. Roland Lam from Zapt
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Hazy. Roland, how are you going? Hey, Tom. Good thanks. How are you? Good evening, everyone.
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Nice to see you, Roland. And if you haven't subscribed to Roland's channel, it is Zapt.
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I'm sure someone will put his channel link in the comments. I'll put that up as
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soon as someone does. So thank you, Roland, for joining us. Our co-host, Riz, is actually
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on his way. He's being shuttled from the Bonza Terminal in Melbourne, Tullamourine. Or maybe
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it's Avalon, I don't know. He'll be on very shortly, so don't worry. The Spectre is
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at the gate and waiting for Riz. I am the traffic. Maybe it's the rain. Every time
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it rains, people forget how to drive. Absolutely. Yep. He was in Sydney, actually.
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You can blame Sydney. Sydney's rain for his tardiness. He'll be on very shortly.
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those entries in before it's too late. Now, speaking of inspectors and
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bonuses and, you know, superstars and Hollywood, so on. Here's the man
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himself, Mr. Rizakhtar. Hello, Riz. Welcome.
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Thanks, Tom. Hey, Roland. Hey, everyone. As always, when you're always up in
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the air, things can go wrong. So now that I'm grounded, I'm on and, yeah, it's
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going to be a good show. Riz, you're always on high. We always look up to
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you, so glad you can join us tonight. Higher than Snoop Dogg before the
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AFL grand final. That's fine. We're all clean skins here. We're talking
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heafies. But thanks, Riz. Thanks for joining us. Glad you made it back
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safely. All right, let's say hello to our regular viewers. Hello, Gaffa.
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Nice to see you. Hello, sparing cat. And it looks like it's cold in Melbourne
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as well. Okay, not just Sydney then. Yeah, Gaffa's getting smashed by the wind
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and rain as we are as well in Sydney. Murray's also getting rained on.
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Hello, Jim. Yep, wet for ducks in Sydney for sure. And hello, Evie,
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as from a soggy Sydney up in North Shore. Yeah, soggy everywhere.
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Hello, it's only dare also wet in Canberra. Getting a dose of it
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everywhere on the East Coast. Hello, Rob S from a chilly surf coast.
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Hello. And yeah, hello, Andrew from Western Victoria. Hello, Lewis.
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Happy Wednesday indeed. Hello, Sennacherimanser. Hello. Hello, Scott
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McGregor from an electrical storm charged Lake Macquarie. Hey, Scott.
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Nice to see you there. Got some BYD news today, too. So stay tuned.
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Yeah, Sennacherimanser asks, is the Polestar 5 actually worth $200,000?
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Let's start with that story. Nice segue there, Sennacherimanser.
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Here it is. So that's not it. This is it. Nope, that's not it.
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This is it. Sorry. You think I know how to work this program after
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how many years we've been doing this? Let's move that and add this one.
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There we go. OK, Polestar 5. So Risen Roland, you might have got
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the email today as well as yesterday.
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Pretty cool looking vehicle, but comes at a nice price as well.
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We've been seeing sort of sneak peek previews of this car,
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haven't we, all over our live streams over the last few weeks and months.
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So here we go. Dual motor launch edition,
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$186,812.40 before on-road costs.
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What do you guys think?
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Click the next one, the one below it.
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Oh, sorry, Roland. No, no, let's talk about Povospec first.
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Then we can talk about Roland's back.
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See, that's the issue that I have. I genuinely do, right?
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Like when you see the car, my starting price in my head is two hundred
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and nine thousand. You got blinkers on, right?
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, one eighty six or Jackson side for launch edition
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and then the performance launch edition, two hundred and nine thousand dollars.
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You get you get the Bows and Wilkins,
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you get the Swedish Gold Seatbelts that Polestar is known for,
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Brembo brakes, et cetera, et cetera.
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Yeah, three point two seconds.
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Is that fast enough for you, Roland? Zero to hundred?
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It's fast, but like for the for what it's competing against,
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I don't think they've done it now.
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Because they said, if I remember right,
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they was going against the Porsche Taycan, right?
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And what's that one?
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And pretty sure off the top of my head, like their top ones are fast.
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I mean, look, I'm only saying fast purely because this is performance
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and they're totally calling that out.
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But the talk is quite impressive.
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Oh, yeah, thousand and fifteen Newton meters.
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That's really going to put your head in your seat.
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It's insane, honestly. Yeah.
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And look, honestly, I quite like the look of this car.
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I don't like the price, but I like the look of this car.
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It's a sedan for a start.
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And yeah, I'll be obviously love to go to the launch jet.
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So get a test drive, right?
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See how it handles.
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That's what I want to see on the track.
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So this or Lotus in Mayer?
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Oh, if you squint enough, you can see you can see the resemblance.
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Exactly. Under the skin, the car, in my opinion, the car is already out.
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It's just with a different badge.
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That's put the Lotus in Mayer or just to show you what that looks like, everyone.
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So that's the Lotus in Mayer.
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You're right. It does look quite similar, obviously,
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both Geely underpinnings as well.
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Let's see a bit of, you know, the the Polestar five.
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Obviously, you got the Polestar four look as well.
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The front, you know, I dare say the back almost looks a bit
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a bit P7 X-Pung B7.
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What do you reckon?
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Yep. It's an Aquamanza.
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Yep, looks amazing.
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Cecil and Aquamanza got the right styling.
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Correct. I think so, too.
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Colours are pouring.
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Yeah, you can get, you know, grey, black, grey or dark grey.
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Would you want a yellow like Polestar five?
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Or do you reckon like like some of these are Mayer shots?
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Totally, I'd drive it, too.
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But in all seriousness, like, even though it's ridiculously expensive,
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obviously, they're not trying to sell bulklet of these.
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Even though, like you're talking about 200 and just under 210,000,
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it's still, I think about forty odd thousand dollars cheaper
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than the one of the mid-spec or entry-level Porsche Taycans.
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So like as a package, it's still quite amazing in all seriousness.
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I'm at the Porsche Taycan in mind, right?
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When they press this.
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Yeah. Sorry, it is gone.
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Only thing I would add is the delivery date, Spring 2026.
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Yeah, I think we haven't had 2025 here yet with all the strain.
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So we might be waiting a while
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unless it's spring in Europe or something.
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I don't know. It's an Australian page.
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Do not adjust your screen. Spring 2026.
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Yeah, we just hit spring 25.
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The entry level one, does that change?
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Was it spring as well?
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Thinking, thinking.
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Yeah, spring as well.
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Two hundred one thousand drive away.
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Yeah, I personally think this is just completely personal opinion.
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I think it's priced at least 50,000 more than what it should be
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because, you know, you look at the
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by the time this car comes out, there'll be five other cars.
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I think we might even be able to buy the P7 in Australia,
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given what they've just announced in Europe two days ago or yesterday.
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It's it's a very cool looking car.
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Don't get me wrong, but I think by the time this comes out,
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it will be unfortunately little too late.
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OK, yep, fair, fair.
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Lots of Chinese entrance.
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Yep, I think the P7 is definitely, you know, the one to to get potentially.
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I mean, if you want a better price, obviously,
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I don't know how much you reckon there is one one 10 for that one 20.
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P7. Yeah, I'd say 75.
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It's 40,000. It starts at 40,000 US dollars in China.
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Let's say we put the conversion on 60.
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Put the dealer tax on shipping all the rest.
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It'll start at 75, and I think it will pop out at 90.
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OK, so I was I was referring to Roland's back, though.
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No, just a roll on 90.
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There you go. Ninety ninety nine ninety nine ninety nine nine nine eight.
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At this rate, if all the Chinese top spec cars coming
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at 90 K or under 100, they will be selling a lot.
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I mean, we we saw this in Melbourne is the P7, right?
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I mean, was it P7? No, the old one, the old P7 plus P7 plus.
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So yeah, they were talking about the fact that they were kind of referring
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hinting at the fact that it's going to replace the Tesla Model S, right?
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Because you can't buy a new Tesla Model S.
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So it's kind of the halo saloon sedan car, right?
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So Paul starts playing in the space.
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P7 is going to play in the space.
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Yeah, I mean, you're right, guys.
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This is not going to sell a lot of these Paul Star Fives.
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It's the kind of the hero car now.
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And you know, it's for hero cars.
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But a quick question, for the price of one of these,
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you can buy two used take-hands.
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So one for you, Tom, one for your Roland.
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And, you know, I think once you've driven it,
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we can we can give it away as well.
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Yeah, look, I think I was like, yeah, well,
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the Polestar software, arguably,
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probably is a bit better than the Titans.
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What do you reckon? Yeah, yeah.
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So it's got that, I guess.
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All right, well, hopefully you, us three,
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will be able to hopefully do a test drive
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in the not too distant future to give out educated thoughts.
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Napa leather has an option of 13 grand.
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If it's not Napa, it's not Swedish gold belts.
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If it's not Bambro brakes, Bawson Wilkins,
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don't even bother, don't even call, honestly.
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Yeah, all right, well, that's Paul Star Five.
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All right, let's keep going.
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Let's say hello to more viewers.
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Hello, Pauline, nice to see you.
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Massive thunderstorm here.
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Yep, same here in Sydney.
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Put a big spoiler on that thing.
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Yeah, on the P five.
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Polestar seems to be behind the curve, says Sim.
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Got the seal over there offering because of this.
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Yeah, don't forget the seal, the humble seal.
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Great offering for 50 odd grand, speaking from experience.
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Yeah, William, that's the thing with luxury cars, right?
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You know, as soon as you drive out of the dealership, boom.
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That's like 50 percent.
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Probably, probably more.
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Is that too harsh, 50 percent?
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I think especially if, unfortunately, as you know,
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we're all hearing this right globally,
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there's a lot of rumours and sort of industry knowledge
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around potential future for Polestar as well.
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So we don't want a fiscal type of a moment
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where customers start paying this sort of money
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and then there's no support, which I'm sure
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geely holding is not going to, you know, let that happen.
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But just with sort of thinking about,
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there's a lot of competition coming.
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But as said, as soon as you drive anything,
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that's over 150 grand.
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You basically are losing money every second.
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Question for us, guys, from Andrew.
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Question for the panel, 7X.
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Zika 7X is 800 volts, that's correct.
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On Tesla V3, the car uses a DC-DC boost,
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does a pack-side cap about 100 amps,
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limited to 60, 70 kilowatts.
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Yeah, look, there will be a bottleneck
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for 800 volt cars at the moment.
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The most I've ever seen any car 800 volts on a DC,
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on a Tesla V3, V4 is about 100 kilowatts.
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So I think this has been tested in Europe
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with Beyond Ireland.
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He could test it, but you know,
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it'd be good to see that in Australia as well.
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I'm thinking Roland and Riz probably, again,
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probably max 100 kilowatts for that 7X.
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Yeah, I can't see it anymore than that.
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Okay, Sensei, thank you very much.
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Will there be a Volvo equivalent but cheaper?
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Hmm, have you heard anything, Riz?
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Volvo P7, EP or P5?
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Well, the Volvo ES90 is coming out.
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We're only getting a single motor version,
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but there's a twin motor one in Europe.
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Maybe that could sort of form the back in the day,
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though, all the top spec ones were the Polestar editions,
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but this already is the Polestar,
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so I think we're gonna get just,
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maybe a twin motor one,
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but that's Europe only at the moment,
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as far as I can see.
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All right, moving right along.
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So Roland, Mr. ADR King,
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has hosted BYD Ato2 ADR Confirmed for Australia,
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which is great news.
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So good to talk about something a bit more affordable.
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Fingers crossed, 4.3 meters.
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So it's a very good city size car for sure.
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It doesn't look like a tiny car as well,
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but it is actually quite small.
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And I think for the ones that do care,
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at least it has towing 750 kilograms towing,
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so that's also a win.
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Look, it's not fast,
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but I don't think it's meant to be fast anyway, so.
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And there's two variants.
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I couldn't really work out any differences.
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One of them said 16-inch wheels,
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other one with optional 17,
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the other one just said 16 and 17.
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So perhaps just something put in error
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when they submitted the files,
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but I'm just thinking maybe it's got sunroof
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or something nicer inside that makes it heavier,
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but there wasn't too much of a weight difference,
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but definitely one is a little heavier.
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Yeah, 15-55, 15-90, yeah, 35 kilos, yep.
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I mean, I expect one to be like the essentials variant,
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right, like the Dolphin and the Ato3.
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So one sort of essentials,
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one versus the extended or standard versions, yeah,
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Roland, what do you reckon?
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So what do I say, 45 kilos?
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I'm gonna hope the first number starts with a three.
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if they're really, really aggressive,
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34, 9, 9, or 34, 8, 8, 8, sorry.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
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I mean, it looks like a Dolphin
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and the other three had a baby.
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And if the Dolphin's 29, Ato's 39,
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it's got to be 35, 34, 35, yep.
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Did you get a chance to drive this one, Tom,
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last year when you were there?
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I don't think it was,
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I mean, I think we saw it in Shanghai, I think,
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Yeah, I don't think it was released at that time, yeah.
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I mean, I expect to drive very similar to Ato3 or Dolphin.
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oh, I had a quick run around in a car park in May
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and yet it drives better than a Dolphin
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and it's very spacious and quite good on the inside,
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like most BYU products,
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but I think it's a, compared to an Ato,
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it's one generation ahead.
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So I think, yeah, if they can price it at that,
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it would sell well.
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What the disappointment has been with the Dolphin
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is it's such a, at that essential price,
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it's been very, very good,
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but only August is when we started to see the sales
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start to prime a bit,
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which was I think 400 and something units.
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So hopefully we already can put a bit more effort
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into marketing some of these more cheaper
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and more affordable models.
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This, the Dolphin, and even Ato3 Essential,
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which I know it's a bit of a dated product now,
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but yeah, I think they've got a pretty solid lineup.
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Don't forget the Seagull or the Dolphin Surf.
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We're getting closer.
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The sizes are getting smaller.
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So we can only hope the next one to announce is the Seagull.
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I want the Seagull Hot Hatch.
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Yep, go-kart mode, all that stuff.
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Gene says single tires, front and rear.
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Yeah, two axles, single tires, front and rear.
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Yeah, surely it comes with four wheels.
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Now, we've got a, this was shared to us
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from our viewer Care Bears in Hong Kong.
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So launched in Hong Kong already,
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155,000 Hong Kong dollars,
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which I think for memory is about 30,000 Australian dollars.
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So pretty good price.
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You know, hopefully that's comparable
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to what we'll get here.
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And he posted some photos as well
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from a showroom in Hong Kong.
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That's the Ato2 in the flesh.
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30,000 will sell well if it's even somewhere near that figure
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because I was looking 4.3 meters, you've got EV3
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and Z-Correx says like, I guess two cars
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off the top of my head at that size.
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And they're just four in line, $50,000.
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You've got MG4, that's 4.2,
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Bobo EX30, 4.2, Insta-4, S5,
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yep, 4.5 I think it is, isn't it?
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Yep, yep, yeah, this will do well.
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I mean, you know, BYD, can't go too wrong.
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There's another rear three-quarter shot there.
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Not a bad style as well.
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And that's the interior.
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So it's from a cluster built into the dash
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and then I see my rotating screen, trademark BYD.
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Cool, there you go.
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That's Ato2 looking forward to seeing that on our road,
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Actually, one car that's a bit of a cracker
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of a deal at the moment,
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I think they've got a special coming up,
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is the Chariomota E5, the Forgotten E5,
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$34,990 with $2,000 off over four days or something.
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That for cars with I think 60 kilowatt hour battery pack,
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400 and something kilometers of WLTP range,
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that's a lot of car under 40 grand.
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And it's got a BYD blade battery, LFP,
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so yeah, great underpinnings, yeah.
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That is a good deal actually.
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It's not the most inspiring car,
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but for that price, hey, I can forgive a lot.
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So that's pretty good.
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I think we're probably gonna reach
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end of year kind of specials guys, right?
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We're sort of heading into mid-summer,
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sorry, mid-summer, mid-September.
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Surely they'll be on the car soon.
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Let's see who gets in first,
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trying to clear all their 20-25 stock.
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How's this 42K for LeapMota?
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Yeah, we just had that this week actually.
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The LeapMota, I must say, look, it's not,
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I don't often want to promote hybrids and things,
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but the LeapMota, we had the RE-EV this week
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and it's not bad for that price.
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The engine only powers the battery,
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it doesn't power the wheels,
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so essentially think of an EV with a generator at the back.
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I think that's a pretty good deal.
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If you're a Costco member, 22,000 bucks off, I think it is.
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That's a steal, almost.
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All right, wow, it's really raining outside now.
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I can hear it through this headphones.
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Okay, let's move on, move on.
23:21
Some more spotting of the suite, guys.
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This is the Ion UT, spotted in Sydney.
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This is, I think this is near Broadway,
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Roland in the city?
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I don't recognise that.
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Yeah, Rayburn Footwear?
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Or is that King's Cross?
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No, that's not quite the cross.
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Looks like Sydney is Sydney's street sign somewhere in the city.
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I trust Rowling Sydney, central.
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Central, thank you.
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Broadway, Railway Square.
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I was close, I said Broadway, so not bad.
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Yeah, I think I remember seeing this in Singapore last
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or earlier this year.
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It's a cool little thing.
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This is another sort of small car to, you know,
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compete against Auto 2 and Insta.
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Yeah, I was going to say, is that another 4.3 metre car?
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Hopefully close to 30 again, mid-30s, low-30s.
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Two variants in Thailand.
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There's a 50 kilowatt hour pack, there's 60 kilowatt hour pack.
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And I think it started about,
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I'm thinking late 20s, early 30s.
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But, you know, it's a hatchback.
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We do need more of them.
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And it's good to see GSEI on, I mean,
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it's great, there's no camera.
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They're like the old stuff.
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That's so true, yeah, yeah.
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And this photo is courtesy of you and Matthew L as well.
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So thank you, Matthew, for sending that.
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Yeah, I'd like to see that.
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Definitely, definitely need more small cars.
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Now that my son is learning how to drive,
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we're looking actively for a small car,
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a small car to, you know, to teach him in
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and, you know, want to have, I guess, to drive around to.
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So bring them on, bring on the small hatches SUVs.
25:19
Why high voltage on the front?
25:20
Yeah, what's with that?
25:22
What's with this label here?
25:27
Everyone needs to know.
25:31
Now on the subject of small cars.
25:33
All right, so we know the Volvo EX30 has been launched,
25:36
but we also know now that the Volvo,
25:40
Is this often Bargo?
25:46
Yes, I think it is.
25:49
Okay, so here we go.
25:50
The Volvo Cross Country before I get in trouble.
25:52
EX30 Cross Country is now available.
25:55
So I forgot what the price is.
25:58
Someone could align me, but.
26:00
69, 990, twin performance motor only.
26:03
It's a Volvo's rally car.
26:06
69, great price and great photos too.
26:10
Very versatile with the, with the basket up the top.
26:15
What are you talking, zero at 100?
26:21
I think 3.7 maybe off the top of my head.
26:24
That's a quick car for something that's high riding.
26:27
I'm calling it a rally car.
26:29
Like they should be cool.
26:33
It's got luxury bits.
26:37
Yeah, that would be cool actually as a rally car.
26:40
It's a cool little car.
26:41
I don't mind the Volvo EX30.
26:45
Even better with second hand with the price drop.
26:52
Did it have a heads up display?
26:56
It must because there's no,
26:58
there's no, definitely no instrument cluster screen is there?
27:02
The central screen.
27:04
It's a good question.
27:06
Because I can't remember.
27:07
It was one of those cars that you got in,
27:10
it drives pretty well, but it was like,
27:13
if the center screen was a little bit bigger.
27:19
According to Google AI, I know it doesn't have a,
27:21
it does not have a head up display.
27:26
Michael, I'm with you actually.
27:27
I think rally cars do need to be light and flicker ball.
27:30
This won't be light for sure.
27:31
So that is the problem.
27:44
It could come as well.
27:50
Just a quick break before we push on.
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And also I just wanted to quickly talk about the Tesla product
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We mentioned it two weeks ago.
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I didn't mention it last week as of the FSD craze.
28:10
But if you want to be in the running to win one of five
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28:16
and two gen three Tesla wall connectors to give away.
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28:24
We've got some entries already.
28:25
We're reading through them and the winner will be announced
28:28
So you get those entries in before it's too late.
28:31
Gents, ladies in the audience, let's keep going.
28:35
Speaking of Tesla, let's quickly touch on this.
28:40
The Tesla Model Y performance, of course, was announced last
28:45
week with the configurator page now live as well.
28:48
Now this is a good price like 89,400 before on roads.
28:52
German made mustn't forget that as well.
28:55
And it's I think it's over a hundred.
28:57
Isn't it drive away?
29:04
And that if you add the seats, I remember this, if you add
29:06
the seats, you'll push it over the luxury car tax
29:08
threshold, which means you'll be disqualified from FBT
29:12
exemptions as well.
29:13
So keep that in mind.
29:20
It was more than it was more than what I thought by
29:25
Is the $10,000 the German tax, right?
29:28
It's not Chinese anymore.
29:30
I think, I don't know, maybe it's a personal opinion.
29:33
Maybe he or see from the viewers.
29:36
I personally think the connotation behind European
29:39
built or German built now compared to say five
29:43
years ago, it's been watered down like a lot of
29:46
people, at least from my field, is that the
29:49
Chinese cars that are coming here are pretty much
29:53
borderline, you know, taking it.
29:57
I agree with you, Roland.
29:58
I was just stoking the fire, but yeah, I 100%
30:01
It's having driven a lot of VW cars now, not
30:04
just VW themselves, but VW made vehicles.
30:07
They, you know, there's a bit of, a bit of
30:08
lacking there, I think, compared to the Chinese
30:10
cars that you drive.
30:12
It's, I'm not sure that's much of a distinction
30:15
I mean, there's not, not saying they won't
30:16
catch up, but the software for a start,
30:18
not as good, but I mean, yeah.
30:22
It's interesting question.
30:24
If this had been built in Shanghai, would
30:27
have this, would have this have been
30:29
under 90 grand, do you think, without
30:32
That's the question.
30:35
Well, we don't, so just for our viewers
30:39
and listeners, the, you know, have we
30:44
discussed why this is built in Germany?
30:49
Someone did say my comments is because
30:51
they're not building enough cars over
30:53
They need to supply us, which I don't
30:55
know, I'm plausible.
30:58
Remember, Shanghai is really busy
31:00
wrapping up Model YL and they're
31:03
also busy getting that model, the
31:07
affordable model production line
31:10
sort of, you know, getting started as
31:13
So they've got enough on their plate
31:15
on that front and also that I guess
31:18
Germany supplying cars now to fill
31:22
partially the production sort of gap
31:25
to Canada to the UK.
31:28
And I guess now here as well.
31:31
How much is the Model 3 performance
31:33
just out of interest?
31:40
For Australia, 87 drive away, which
31:42
is why I originally thought based on
31:44
the percentage difference between
31:46
Europe and Australia, I was
31:48
generally thinking this Model Y,
31:50
based on the 40 something percent
31:52
difference of me working it out,
31:54
that the Model Y drive away would
31:58
But this is the base price plus
32:00
the driveway cost, which you see
32:01
down the bottom left 96.
32:05
So what's the difference right in
32:08
Upgradable dampers.
32:10
Apparently they've done quite a lot
32:12
and that's if what they had in
32:15
the Model 3 performance and how
32:17
much it changed that car from
32:20
experience and how bumpy some of the
32:22
earlier performances were.
32:24
It's that suspension is pretty
32:28
What it can do, make it as
32:30
softer than a rear-wheel drive on
32:32
the road, but then as soon as you
32:34
push it, you know, pretty well
32:36
planted on the road.
32:37
Not saying that people who buy
32:39
Model Y performances will be
32:41
taking every corner like they're
32:43
taking an Apex on a racetrack,
32:46
but yeah, there's a little bit
32:48
in there, but also I guess there's
32:50
that other tax of, you know,
32:52
early adopters tax, which
32:55
Because if you remember the
32:57
original Model Y performance,
32:59
I know a couple of people that
33:05
and it was $105,000 to
33:09
The drive away was the price
33:12
So this is considerably
33:16
I can see Roland crying in red
33:18
calipers there in the middle.
33:20
I paid one of eight white seats
33:22
and in the grey colour.
33:26
You only live once, right?
33:31
Thank you for letting me drive it.
33:35
It's still an amazing car, but
33:37
I genuinely think in terms of
33:39
price, my personal view is
33:41
it's about $10,000 off.
33:44
Look, it is a cool car.
33:45
The new Y, I agree.
33:46
Even the all-wheel drive,
33:47
the long range one, which I had
33:49
a chance to drive with joy.
33:50
That's a phenomenal vehicle.
33:51
Took it round west head up
33:53
there in our area, northern
33:56
All the twists and turns,
33:57
very short-footed, very well
33:58
and I can't imagine how good
33:59
the Y performance will be.
34:00
So I can tell you inside
34:01
knowledge from Tesla that
34:03
they have actually sold or at
34:05
least half the allocation has
34:06
been ordered as of two days
34:08
So they are selling or at
34:10
least being ordered.
34:11
So yeah, we'll see.
34:12
We'll see how it goes.
34:13
We'll see whether the entire
34:14
like allocation will be
34:15
exhausted when they do arrive
34:17
December to February 2026.
34:19
So watch this space.
34:20
This will come before
34:21
Polestar 5 Gents, right?
34:23
This is the summer of
34:40
So that's that's Tesla news.
34:41
Just one more piece.
34:42
This is kind of Tesla news.
34:43
This is this is Roland's
34:45
sort of weekend car that he's
34:46
got in the New Hills District.
34:49
Tesla V4 Superchargers.
34:51
Clearly this has opened
34:52
all vehicles, Roland.
34:54
Yes, we successfully charge
34:56
at the amazing rate of
35:02
Better than nothing.
35:04
But I guess in saying that
35:05
I'm not having a dig at the car.
35:07
I did go charge there with
35:09
like 80% or thereabouts.
35:11
So I knew that it was
35:13
not going to charge fast.
35:15
And the instance max rate
35:16
is only 120 kilowatts.
35:19
and I was dedicated to
35:20
make sure everyone knows
35:21
whether or not it works or not.
35:24
let's go try anyway.
35:32
I made that clear in my video.
35:33
It is expensive for what it is.
35:35
But Roland, what do you think?
35:36
Did you like this car?
35:38
Honestly, I did not think
35:40
I would enjoy it because like
35:42
the power is just like
35:45
It's not even three digits.
35:46
Not even 100 kilowatts.
35:48
But it was a very fun car.
35:50
Like, I don't know what it was.
35:52
It just felt funky.
35:54
It felt like a mechanical car
35:57
even though it was like
35:58
a more analog type car,
36:00
And yeah, it was easy to drive.
36:02
I was really happy with it
36:03
and the best thing of all.
36:05
And yes, I'm a much larger person.
36:07
So it did feel, I guess,
36:09
a lot more enclosed.
36:10
But the parking is another level.
36:13
Like, you know, coming from a Model X,
36:15
like it's a huge car.
36:17
This car, you could almost
36:19
swing the door 90 degrees
36:21
and you won't hit anything.
36:23
You could fit two instas
36:24
in that Super Charter spot, probably.
36:26
Like front to back.
36:28
To your point, the price,
36:30
it's $49,000 off top of my head.
36:32
Like, it's a lot for that size.
36:35
No, I'm with you, Roland.
36:36
Like, yeah, you're right.
36:37
On paper, it looks terrible, right?
36:38
But something about the car,
36:40
It's just balanced well.
36:41
It drives like a great little go-kart.
36:44
I know it's a front-wheel-drive vehicle,
36:45
but the torque vectoring is amazing.
36:47
It's just probably 10 grand too much.
36:49
So second-hand instas,
36:55
Get one for your learner.
36:57
I'm not sure whether he want one though,
37:01
William Johnson says,
37:03
hot off the press, Bustleton WA,
37:05
home of the Bustleton Ironman.
37:07
Supercharger just opened.
37:14
I would laugh if I saw you rolling around
37:16
in the inter-rollen.
37:18
Ah, the applaud rolling.
37:20
There is body roll.
37:22
And you will not see me again doing that.
37:25
Is that bigger than a smart car?
37:27
Probably bigger than the Vortu,
37:29
but not bigger than the hashtag one of three's.
37:33
Just two XC, Michael.
37:35
But fun cars as a lone car for the week.
37:39
More supercharger news.
37:42
Risking and lightness as to where this is.
37:44
Canva Victoria has a permit application
37:48
with eight stalls, 250 kilowatts.
37:50
Well, as far as I know,
37:52
and only Charles I think has mentioned something earlier
37:56
I think it's on the way to Adelaide.
37:59
I'm supposed to know.
38:02
I think he did say he right.
38:06
we probably need more of those, don't we?
38:11
Melbourne Adelaide trips.
38:14
Wouldn't mind doing the inland route again
38:15
from Sydney to Adelaide by, you know,
38:18
That'd be quite a fun trip.
38:19
Check out all the chargers that have been popping up
38:21
since last time I did that.
38:24
Now we must address this article
38:26
because everyone's talking about it at the moment, Onyx.
38:28
ABC's commentary on self-driving,
38:35
especially about Tesla's self-driving test
38:38
on busy Melbourne streets,
38:40
quite not approved.
38:43
Let's open a can of worms here, guys.
38:45
I mean, look, summary,
38:46
basically the article was about,
38:48
it kind of got a bit confused.
38:50
I think it mixed up FSD's tech,
38:52
which I had the fortunate chance to drive
38:54
last week or two weeks ago
38:56
with basic autopilot
38:58
and then confusing FSD with full autonomy,
39:00
which obviously is not.
39:02
Tesla makes it very clear in the disclaimer
39:04
when you click through the yes, I agree, I agree.
39:07
Roland, what do you think
39:09
when you read this article?
39:10
What were your initial thoughts?
39:12
The news being the news wanting to create tricks,
39:15
but they haven't even got the story right.
39:17
Like, at least sometimes when they give,
39:20
when they try to get quick bait,
39:22
you know, they've got the story half right,
39:24
but this is just, I don't even know.
39:26
I don't even look at who wrote it,
39:28
but it was one of those,
39:30
had a quick skim and then I was like,
39:32
this is going to blow up for the wrong reasons.
39:36
Yeah, the facts were kind of half right,
39:38
but not quite, yeah.
39:40
For context, yes, we went through this
39:42
Tesla self-driving video in fast forward
39:44
that Tesla released like what, two months ago,
39:46
we shared on the stream as well.
39:48
I think that's what they were referring to.
39:50
Riz, you're going to say something?
39:52
Yeah, I guess, firstly,
39:55
for, you know, the benefit of our viewers
39:59
and audience and obviously it's something
40:01
that's made quite a few headlines this week.
40:06
We wouldn't give it as much airtime purely
40:08
because as Roland said, the facts are just not there.
40:12
Secondly, Tesla at no stage has ever said
40:15
they were testing an autonomous vehicle.
40:18
They've got a driver there,
40:20
he's got his hands close enough.
40:22
I see people doing things they shouldn't be doing
40:25
with cars that have no level of any autonomy,
40:29
you know, basically controlling the steering wheel
40:33
with their legs while doing a whole lot
40:36
of other things that they shouldn't be doing.
40:39
All in all, it's a bit of a drama.
40:41
You know, it looks like Jason Ohm,
40:44
who is clearly an automotive and autonomous vehicle expert
40:48
who has written this article,
40:50
I think needs to talk to a variety of people.
40:56
You know, like Roland, I skimmed through it.
40:58
My thoughts are, if they're going to get a professor
41:00
to talk about Victorian issues,
41:02
why do they have to go to Queensland?
41:04
Find the professor there.
41:07
And secondly, if the Victorian government had any clues
41:11
such as the Victorian EV tax,
41:14
where I had multiple electric cars
41:16
and they only taxed one of them,
41:18
another one that didn't even know existed,
41:20
when both of them were Teslas,
41:23
what help have they got,
41:25
even if this thing was illegal in Victoria
41:28
of, you know, giving permits or not giving permits?
41:31
Obviously Tesla has applied to everything they need
41:34
to ensure these videos and these demos are done
41:37
so they can show progress.
41:39
And they will abide by all laws and rules
41:41
because it's too risky not to,
41:43
especially when, you know, everyone's watching you
41:48
I mean, there's no permit required.
41:50
Everyone knows, people in the know
41:52
know that Teslas FSD,
41:54
even the one that I tested with Joy,
41:55
is still level two.
41:56
It's not anywhere, any more than that.
41:58
So level two is already approved
42:00
and available to be used
42:03
by pretty much every Tesla owner.
42:05
Every other vehicle we've tested
42:07
has some sort of auto steer
42:09
and lane keeping function as well.
42:10
So it's not really new tech from that point of view.
42:13
So it's still level two.
42:15
It's still able to be driven
42:16
pretty much in all Australian jurisdictions.
42:18
It's an interesting article.
42:20
I think they're scrambling their facts
42:22
for some sensation unfortunately.
42:24
I think speaking of funny things you've seen
42:26
and other people do, I think one of my favorite pictures
42:28
ever since mobile speed cameras
42:30
or mobile phone cameras
42:32
called New South Wales,
42:34
is the picture of someone
42:36
basically texting, or the driver's texting
42:38
and the passengers steering the wheel.
42:40
That's the kind of idiocy you see
42:42
on Australian roads.
42:44
That's one of my favorite pics.
42:46
But yeah, there's some funny stuff going on.
42:48
So anyway, we'll talk enough
42:50
about that. We'll say that's enough
42:52
about the article. I just wanted to bring it up
42:54
because it's been sort of
42:56
broadcasted on X this week.
43:00
All right, let's keep going.
43:02
Okay, one more bit of Tesla news.
43:04
So South Korea prices
43:06
for the Cybertruck.
43:08
I only put this up because Raul used to be on the show.
43:10
So he said, according to Sawyer
43:12
all drive Cybertruck in Korea
43:14
is 104,000 US dollars
43:16
and the Cyber Beast is
43:20
I don't know what the Korean market is like
43:22
but to me that seems like a lot of money
43:24
for the Cybertruck.
43:28
I guess it's one of the
43:30
first markets in Asia
43:34
get the Cybertruck? I don't know.
43:38
Is it the first market outside of North America?
43:48
But why South Korea?
43:50
What's going on there?
43:52
K-pop artists have got too much money.
43:54
All the demon hunters.
43:58
Yeah, I mean left hand drive
44:00
does that mean we're going to get one soon?
44:04
It's not the question I know
44:08
Yeah, why Korea? I agree.
44:12
Is Tesla demand that high in Korea?
44:14
Maybe you might know.
44:16
Yeah, not entirely sure
44:22
for his next Gangnam style video
44:24
four to ten of them or something.
44:26
I think the person that should be getting them
44:28
is Nash from the Gong.
44:30
You know how many he's got a whole fleet on order.
44:34
FSD, Cybertruck, Nash,
44:36
Gong to Melbourne. Let's do it.
44:40
And also Electric Reports.
44:42
Tesla Moves, Robotaxi Safety Monitor
44:44
from passenger to driver's seat as well.
44:48
Just on this one as well
44:50
my understanding is
44:52
it's on social media
44:58
Elon Musk has mentioned
45:04
safety driver or the monitor
45:08
no longer be in cars
45:10
before the end of this year.
45:14
I think what's been discussed in the background.
45:16
But if that's the case
45:18
then two or three months
45:20
and the drivers, the safety monitors
45:24
that would be interesting to see
45:26
what that transition looks like.
45:28
So you're saying the
45:30
the driver or the supervisor
45:32
will no longer be inside these
45:34
Robotaxi's at the end of the year?
45:36
That's what I think I've read somewhere.
45:38
Okay, so fully autonomous
45:40
like the Waymo cars in San Francisco basically.
45:44
We'll watch this place.
45:48
New car spotted. Okay, Roland
45:50
Hyundai showed off the new Ioniq 3
45:52
concept in Munich today.
45:54
This must be right up your alley.
45:58
but honestly if you look at the picture of the rear
46:00
and I don't know if anyone remembers that car
46:02
the Hyundai Veloster.
46:04
I feel like the designer is exactly the same.
46:08
Rude out some lines and said
46:10
here's a new concept guys, look at that.
46:14
Oh no, what's this?
46:16
Four? No, it might be four.
46:18
Are they suicide doors?
46:20
It looks like it might be
46:24
it's all concept at the end of the day
46:26
but if you look at the next picture
46:28
the hole is down in the middle.
46:30
The B-pillar is gone.
46:32
Oh, is that a glittery side thing?
46:36
Yeah, this would be cool
46:38
on K-pop videos, right?
46:44
I mean, you're right, Roland, I agree.
46:46
I thought Veloster straight away when I saw the back.
46:48
Yeah. Yeah, the Veloster designer
46:50
has aged 20 years and a bit more mature
46:52
now and gone, yeah, this is the man.
46:54
This is the car for me.
46:58
It looks like, if you look at it
47:02
it looks like the car
47:04
that we've been talking about in some ways
47:06
with the real narrow lights
47:08
which is the IONIX 6N
47:10
in some, not the body
47:18
If you look at just the bonnet
47:20
above the LED lights
47:24
they've just taken the EV6
47:26
just the front bonnet.
47:28
I think from the side looks like an EV6
47:30
I thought straight away, this one, this big here.
47:36
I think Jean agrees with us too.
47:38
It looks like the EV6 from the rear he says.
47:42
The two back holes are speakers.
47:44
What's that about back holes?
47:48
I think we're the old exhaust boats.
47:50
Oh, yeah, right, augmented sounds.
47:58
hood also needs some character.
48:00
Arches on either side would look nicer.
48:02
Yeah, the front looks a bit bland.
48:04
Yeah, why not put a front spoiler?
48:10
thingy there and then like another extra wing there.
48:14
Yeah, this could go all out.
48:20
Actually, one car I do want high-end data release
48:22
and I can't remember what it's called anymore.
48:26
retro thing that they had.
48:30
Roland, you know the one
48:38
it's really blocky and it's like a
48:44
retro looking thing. I'm trying to think of the name.
48:46
That car needs to come to market.
48:48
We saw that I think
48:50
maybe it was a couple of months ago or maybe six months ago.
48:54
I think that was the one.
48:56
I know I've got the pick.
49:04
Anyway, I'll try and
49:08
That car they need to bring to life
49:12
sports car people and others are looking for
49:14
something a bit retro
49:18
I wasn't sure if it was going to be fully electric or not.
49:22
I may have been the Instoroid
49:24
because there was only two
49:26
there was that and then there was a concept
49:28
one that looked like it had like an open cage
49:32
Pretty much like a stripped out Ioniq 5N.
49:34
Will you tell me about this thing?
49:42
Anyway, I'll pull it up. We'll keep going.
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Okay, reaching the end of our
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show ladies and gentlemen.
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One more ADR approval for
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Roland. This is the
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A lot of acronyms there.
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I couldn't really find much
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about it but it seemed like
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based on the wheel specs
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and everything else I could find
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very cheap sedan which
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only makes me think
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potentially something for fleets or
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I'm thinking MG4 up the front
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and Tesla Model 3 up the back
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45 kilowatt single motor
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is it kilowatts? 45 kilowatts
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that's the power trade.
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This has to be like deliveries.
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The Insta almost had double that power.
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Don't you slag the Insta.
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I'm showing how powerful it is compared to
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I've never heard of this.
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If it's approved it may or may not come
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I'm not sure if anyone else is aware
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Two weeks ago this viewer
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Tesla Powerwall 2 received a firmware update
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and then bricked the Powerwall 2
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that he's spoken to.
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Large numbers of Powerwall 2 is apparently not ours
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this gentleman is now on a six week
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wait for a replacement.
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If anyone else has also suffered a bricking
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of their Powerwall 2 let us know
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this is the first I've heard of it.
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It's not good if you've been bricked
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by a software update. Not good at all.
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Do they get a Powerwall 3
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You'd hope so right? There's not much stock
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surely of the 2's left.
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I'd be pushing for one.
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The UK is looking very healthy
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26.5% new car sales
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Quarter of the market.
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That's pure BEVs right Riz?
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because they've got BEVs and
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amazing hydrogen vehicles
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or maybe hybrid EVs.
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That's a pretty good car.
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Pretty interesting and as you can see
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more BEVs than FEVs and hybrid
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electric vehicles combined.
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Hopefully Australia's not too far behind.
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Hopefully 10% is kind of like our
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ongoing rate and we'll push up from there
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by 25%, 26% in the UK.
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That's great. Very encouraging.
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Murray says his Powerwall 2
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has never given him any trouble.
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I agree ours is being fine as well.
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There is a batch of Powerwall 2's
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I think they were released
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I forgot the batch year 2019
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severe degradation past 30%.
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I think if you've got a Powerwall 2
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it's probably just worth checking
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the degradation status.
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What's the name of that app
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I forget now? It used to be free.
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Now it's a paid thing.
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Oh no maybe something else.
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I forgot I used to use it.
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Someone can online me.
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It's no longer free but it's worth paying for just to check the degradation.
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ACT hit 30% BEVs last month.
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We should do a state of origin
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Now we have the AEVA national conference
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I'm involved with AEVA down in Melbourne
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the conference has been done
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annually for I don't know how many years
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but I've been to at least three or four of them.
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Tom I think you and I went together.
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We did a road trip in a Polestar 2
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and then there was Perth
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and Hobart last year.
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We saw Charles and others down there as well
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This year it's in Victoria in Melbourne
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and we are doing it
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so everything electric in Melbourne
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starts I think on the 14th to the 16th.
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This is being held on the 13th
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not far from the showgrounds
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where everything electric would be.
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insights and other things going to be shared.
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The program is up already
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if anyone's interested or
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if anyone knows people that are within the industry
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or are looking at the EV space
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it would be great for them to
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just come and attend
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and there's a lot of
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insights and knowledge shared
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that I guess you won't really find anywhere else.
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AEVA have been doing great things
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for the last few decades
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If you want high powered learning
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networking and so on
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this is a great conference to attend
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I think it would be worth the entry fee as well.
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$200 for non-members
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$150 for AEVA members
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and as Riz said it's the day before
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Is this going to be
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conference is right exhibition
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It's very close to where this is
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Victoria Uni is just
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down the road from there
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obviously cover the cost
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pretty much all the
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morning tea and everything else
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the lunch and stuff and afternoon tea is all included
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good way to network
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but also just to learn
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so yeah, feel free to
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check it out on AEVA's
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Fantastic, thank you Riz. Thanks for the plug.
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All righty gents and ladies in the audience
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yes, this is it for tonight
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so yeah, hope you guys
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enjoy the show as much as we did
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thanks for joining us
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oh Riz, Hyundai Envision
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is that the name of the car?
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That's the one Envision
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I don't know if it was full electric
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but it looks cool if they were ever to make something
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pop it up real quick for the last thing
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kind of looks like a DeLorean almost
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That is cool actually
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That's an En version I can see in the corner here
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Yeah with the Ionix 6
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But that's not the new
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Ionix 6 En, that's the old
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thank you gents, thank you Roland for joining us tonight
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Thanks for having me
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Yeah if you want to subscribe
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to Roland's channel, there it is
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I'll put the links in the video description as well
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hopping off your bonza flight and joining us
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It was another great show, I think we started
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and all the exciting things that might bring next spring
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but yeah now really really
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good to be on and thanks everyone for
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liking, subscribing and sharing
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and the podcast as well
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Thank you Riz, thank you for joining us
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We are nothing without you guys in the audience so thank you for your
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contribution as well
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It's a bi-directional learning
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as I always say between us three and you guys
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All right, well thanks for joining us
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Roland and Riz have a great night
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and we shall see you all
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Nope that's not it, this is it
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This is it, all right
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We shall see you all next week
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on Ludicrous Feed, take care