Porsche collector Magnus Walker lists cars and parts at auction. Ferrari 512 BB values, spark plug scams and more - Shift & Steer EP560

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before that, sold his mom's house. He's got Brad's stuff to do. He's got Brad's stuff today. So it's

just you and me, Aaron, holding down the fort. You mean he's not working on his Chevelle? He's

not actually... No, he's not allowed to work on the Chevelle until he moves all this stuff out of

Arizona first. I mean, when I say all this stuff, just his mom's house, he still has a warehouse

full of stuff out there. But the Chevelle is... I imagine probably still in the planning phase,

but also, I think if we remember correctly, he got the car and a bunch of stuff, but he didn't

fully get everything. I think he needs to bring the frame back. Did he put a frame? Yeah, I think

he still needs to grab the frame or something. Yeah, there's a lot more. It's funny, we start

the show off with the Chevelle. I can't help but think of my friend Colby that said, he messaged

me a couple shows ago. He goes, dude, if I hear anything more about that old man Chevelle, I'm

going to drive my car right into a tree because he listens to the show while he drives. He gets so

annoyed because he's not a Chevelle guy. He's not a classic muscle car guy. He's like,

talk about Porsches. Talk about something interesting, not that Chevelle.

Okay, talk about Porsches. So Colby, that was for you, just to start off your driving day with

Chevelle News. Well, if he's a Porsche fan, he must be familiar with Magnus Walker.

Oh, yeah. And Magnus is thinning out the herd. He's selling a whole bunch of his cars. He's

not selling everything and people are getting all heated up about it. What's happened? What's

going on? Did he get in a fight with Porsche? Is he sick? I was like, no, man, he just had a bunch

of cars. He had a bunch of cars. He wants to change it up a little bit and I don't know,

maybe he wants to invest in something different. Maybe he wants to reduce the space, the

Haggerty Build or whatever his insurance bill is. Yeah, like, what is he doing? Every time I see a

post, he's painting another panel or he's making all these little fun cars, but it's like, yeah,

it's he seems to have a lot of very colorful cars right now. Yeah, so and because he was

he was into that urban outlaw thing that that he really kind of turned into a brand, whether it

was, I don't know how much he's created and how much of that term was out there, but he's created

into a brand and I like Magnus a lot. And so a lot of his cars are sort of personalized and

modified in different ways and multiple colors and wraps and stuff like that. But then he's got

some very good, clean, authentic stuff that's just great investment cars. And so I think he just

wanted to change things up a little bit. I know he spoke about it on a couple different shows and

podcasts about it's time for some of those to move on, which yeah, totally makes sense. But yeah,

if you're a Porsche guy and you've ever been to a shop or been admiring any of his cars,

look up that auction. I'm trying to find out when it when it is.

Oh yeah, I mean, it's always a good way to open up capital. I mean, Porsche is just

the market doesn't seem to be slowing down. Every time I think, oh, maybe I'll get an old 912.

I'm just like, what? They're how much? Yeah, doesn't even run the 50 grand. Are you kidding me?

Yeah, it's just it's out of control. I guess it's started. Maybe it's an online auction.

It's RM Sotheby's and it says March 18 through the 25th. So I think it starts today as we record

this a couple days from now. You're listening to this. Let's see, we've got let's take a look

at a few of these cars while we're here. Back to Walker. So 924 for 20 grand. I'm not buying that.

It's a joke. You know what? If a 924 turbo really clean, yeah, I mean, I get it. The 944s are

starting to go up too. You find a nice turbo example of that. 928, 96. Yeah. So he's got a

66, 911. Looks like a pretty clean car. Yeah. 78, 928. I don't think that's a 928s. He's got a couple

928s. Yeah. Another 60s, a 65, 911. Another 968. So is the 968, that's a continuation from the 944s,

right? So that's a four-cylinder still or is it a six-cylinder? Do you know much about those?

I don't. A friend had one and brought it by once, but we didn't spend much time with it.

I guess it's a four-cylinder. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, three-layer four-cylinder. Okay. So the 968 is

the four-cylinder. Yeah, because it still has the 944 kind of vibe, a little bit of a 928 front end.

Yeah, it's kind of the refined version. Like I always looked at it as like the 308, the 328,

and you're like, oh, 328 is like a little nicer version of a 308.

Yeah. Cool. Yeah, so 944 turbo. I like that. This 924 turbo, the racing wide-body one.

That's a neat one. That's a cool car. Wow. That's a cool car. There's some good cars in there,

but I see why he's getting rid of so many of the other ones, because it's like,

how many 924s are you going to drive? Yeah. How many 968s are you going to drive? How many 928s

are you going to drive? It's like, I don't know that the driving experience on those is

that thrilling, especially compared to the other stuff you have. So is that all this other stuff

you're selling too? This is tons of stuff. So if you guys go to the RMSotheby's Liston or just type

in Magnus Walker, Porsche Auction, he's just got tons of memorabilia, spare parts,

signage, wheels, tires, camshaft, shocks, steering wheels, cylinder heads, gauges,

and you just scroll and scroll and scroll. There's so much stuff. Brake calipers,

my man, tons of seats. Wow. Trans axles, complete engines, or at least almost complete engines.

Short blocks, long blocks, yeah. Yeah, glass. So there's a lot of stuff here. If you're just

a Porsche fan and you've got cars that you're either restoring or whatever, or if you're a shop

and you work on cars, this is funny. So we're looking at this 911 door handles and he's got

six of these spare door handles from original cars. Adam Corolla has a, I think it's a 67 Lamborghini

400 GT and it was taken apart years ago before they were worth anything and sat in a shop and

the shop never did anything on it. So we went a decade later and were like, we want everything back,

put it in a big trailer and we're going to bring it all back. And we did that. And by time, Adam

and one of his guys started picking through all of the parts, we realized stuff walked away.

Oh man. So we have a Lamborghini with no door handles. Oh gosh. And it's not like you can get,

you can't buy them. Oh sure. And here's the problem is if we had one door handle, I can scan it,

have it like a 3D print made, flipped, see if that'll work and then maybe have one made,

you know, just maybe have one machined or something like that. There's no door handles on it and we

don't have another one of those Lamborghinis anymore. If anybody has a Lamborghini 400 GT,

maybe even a 350 GT, but probably a 400 GT, if you have one or working on one or anything like that,

I'd love to borrow a door handle or at least a 3D file. You know, you got to take it off to get the

3D file because there's an arm on the inside and it's a 2D file. Yeah. If somebody has a 3D file,

that'd be great. If you don't, I'd love to borrow a door handle so I can scan it and send it back

to you. Well, if you're going to borrow one, borrow both of them and get a 3D model of both of them.

You don't have to flip anything because there's a pin on the other one that's not on the, you know,

you never know. It's Lamborghini. Maybe the right one's longer.

You're right. They may not be the same. You know what might happen? It's like one of them might

have like a door lock in it and the other one doesn't have a door lock in it. Exactly. Yeah.

But if you send me pictures of both and we know for sure because I have to go back and look, but

I'm sure there's plenty of options where I could see the pictures. But I don't recall them being

different. If there's any door lock, I think it was like separate in the door. But

and if you scan them and like flipped it, I think you can get it to work.

But a buddy of mine that's done 3D scanning and printing, I did it on my 95 Ford Lightning. We

know we did the side mirrors. We did door handles. We did a few pieces on it. Then we machined them

out of Billet and Sarah coated them. So I got all that done and it's really, really nice.

But he 3D printed, right? It was like, let's keep it less expensive. We'll do a 3D print

out of plastic. We'll put like whatever mechanism on that. When we did our door handle on the Ford,

it has like the push button and it had like a mechanism on the backside. So we were able to

transfer some of that over, but then we made our own button so it has a nice because on my truck,

it's a cast, just like a crappy like pop metal, rough feeling door handle, but with a plastic

button for your thumb. Right. And so we made a nice billet piece with a billet button that has

like a groove your thumb and it feels much nicer in your hand. The action is much smoother. And to

make that button slide in and out of the door handle into the door smooth. He 3D printed like

a sleeve that it slides through on the back end. So it doesn't wobble around anymore like the factory

one did. So it's really, really nice. You look at it and go, yeah, it doesn't look that much different

until you see them side by side. And then when you put your hand on it, you're like, oh man,

this feels so much nicer. The other one was like had a hard edge on the inside and it was like kind

of digs in your fingers. It's like a sharp edge. You know, you don't realize how important this

stuff is. Right. I mean, like, I think, I think these younger generations now are totally into

and and exploit the experience. Right. Like, like we just grew up and it just was what it was. But

now they're like, oh, have you ever stacked, you know, 14 egg shells and cracked them between your

hands? You know, have you ever, you know, oh, peeling the foam or peeling the, the clear, the

clear thing off your screen. You know, it's like, it's a whole process now. Right. Yeah. So I think

I think we're appreciating all these tactile things. And speaking of which yesterday, I brought

dad's 400 I Ferrari back to the warehouse and picked up his, his, his, his, his boxer, his BB

512 is 512 BBI. And, and, and the 400 has these two fan switches at the top of the center dash.

And even my Ferrari guys, like, I don't remember what those are for. You know, they have a fan

mark. I'm like, it's not the inside fans, because that's this knob. And so we're flicking the fan

switches. And I'm thinking, well, maybe they're, they're auxiliary fans in the front, but we don't

hear a fan come on. Can't figure it out. I got to just look at the manual, but I didn't. But my

point being is that the fan switch, they're these little paddle switches, right? And they have a,

just a, I think it's a two phase or three phase for off. So, so one, two, three. And,

and they just have the best feeling. Like, like, they're so smooth, like they're beautifully

greased. Yeah, really, really good tolerance in there. But, but they have a slide and a click.

And they're, but they're just buttery smooth. And I had my friends in the car with me, because I

needed another set of eyes for the boxer, because I don't want to catch on fire. He never know a

fuel line. And, and so I had an extra eyes with me and, and he restores airplanes and stuff.

And I said, check out the way these switches feel. And he clicked them back and forth. He goes,

yeah, that's, that's a nice switch. You know, it's like, it's like, it's like, you find the right

touch and tactile feel of something. And it has become exciting. You know what I mean? It's,

it's like, it's like, I got to say the 80s, Ferraris, at least dads, the 400 and the 512,

both have beautiful switches and knobs and, and, and, and the equipment on the steering column,

you know, like when you turn on the headlights, it doesn't, it doesn't just flap all over the place,

like a lot of cars do now. It's not chunky. It's just a thin, hard and steel stem. I mean,

they're hard. Like, like there's something to them when you grab them, they don't move

other than intentionally rotating or lifting up. But there's a level of precision that was in

those instruments that was really, really cool. And I got to say everything, yeah, everything there

feels very intentional and very tactile. And okay, it, it squeaks a little bit when you touch it.

Like if you touch the gauge cluster, it'll, it'll creak a little bit because it's, you know,

it's sleeved in leather. There's just leather oozing out of every orifice. But, um, yeah, it's,

it's just, I really enjoy those cars for their tactile feel. Of course, the gated, the gated

shifter, I mean, third gear, it squeezes and anyone who's driven something like this and

understands what I'm saying right now, it squeezes into third. It's like, first is, is a slam towards

you. Second is straight up the middle. And then you pull it down into third and you feel it squeeze

through and then engage on the edge of that gate. Man. I didn't know the shifter was like kind of in

this little pod. Yeah. Oh, it's perfect. Yeah. It's not, you just drop down and it's right there.

Yeah. The shifter, we're looking at the interior of the, of the Ferrari 512, like a BBI. And the,

the shifter isn't like in the center console. It's like attached to the side of the center console.

It's in between the seat and the center console. So, so it's right at the edge. It's right at the

edge of your, of your hip. I mean, it's almost like you're, you're drawing, you know, you're drawing

from the hip. Um, yeah, you just, you just drop off the steering wheel and you know, those steering

wheels have an angle to them. I don't know what that angle is, what's it, 30 degrees or something.

It's kind of a strange angle. So I tend to drive that car a little bit from the bottom of the

steering wheel. Yeah. So, so it's almost like just a flick of the hand. Yeah, you can see that here.

Actually, it's quite an extreme angle. Yeah, it is. It's not a 45 though. I'm curious what angle

that is if anybody knows. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's an interesting angle, but, but you, because you're,

because you're driving with your thumbs up and you want, that's definitely a steering wheel

that you want thumbs up, thumbs out. You don't want to curl your thumbs in there. That thing

will whip around on you. But, uh, you know, thumbs up and you just kind of flick your,

your fingers down and it guides your hand right to that shifter. But yeah, but that third gear

squeeze, it's like, it's literally if you pull, it's a squeeze and then an engagement and it's

just, oh man, it's orgasmic. It's just awesome. That's a cool car. It really is. Looking at it

again. So I just met up with a friend of mine a little while ago and he just recently bought

one of these and, uh, he, he, he lost a bunch of cars in the Palisades fire and he's been

slowly getting some new cars. Um, not necessarily the same ones, but, but he's been getting some

new cars and he got a 512. Oh, good for him. And he bought a Porsche 930. Oh, wow. Okay. Right.

Which is cool. Do you tear out the cars? Yeah. But now that I'm, I'm looking at this, like, this

is a, this is a funky, cool car. It's, it's underappreciated. Oh my God. I still think a really

undervalued car. I think so too. It's, it's, it's kind of grossly undervalued. I mean,

but I get it. I do get it. It's, it's a different experience. Like I would love to drive a Testerosa,

although a Testerosa might have some of the same mannerisms, but I would love to drive maybe a 550

or something, you know, that's a traditional front engine, 12 Colombo motor, right in the 550.

Um, in comparison to this, because this really does have a different balance. It has a different

handling. Um, the feedback through the steering wheel, because you don't have the weight over

the axle. Um, you know, it has a very different performance to it. And, uh, it's, it's, I think

it's a little more, it's brighter. It's a little more abrupt. It's a little brighter. Um, it, it,

I don't know, the rear squats hard, you know, and, and it's, well, when you, when you accelerate,

because you got the weight in the back, you know, it's just, it's just a different car,

but it feels, it feels like a weapon and it feels like your feet are laying over the front

axle. You just feel, you feel in and on the car rather than behind the hood. Like you do in a

lot of Ferraris. It's just, it's just cool. It's, it's undervalued. If you look at a 308,

it's 100 grand, right? Give or take. And then a 328, a little bit more, right? A little more

refined, 100 to 200 grand. And then these 512s are what? They're 200 to 400, maybe?

Yeah. Maybe, maybe around five. Yeah. Yeah. But they, they, they seem to be fluctuating

right? Okay. But then the 288 GTO jumps to what is now four million, five million dollars. It was

two and a half million for the longest time, but now they're five million. I don't get it.

Why isn't the 512 a million bucks, right? Like how come it isn't in the middle of a, you know,

somewhere between 328 and, and it's not closing the gap on the 288 GTO when this is a 12 cylinder

car, right? Yeah. Well, it's a flat 12. So it's a flat 12 rather than a V12. It is a very different

configuration. I know, but it's badass because when you look at it from the back, it's huge.

It really is. It's just big. Yeah. And when you open that clamshell and you see that,

that big old V12 back there, and it's just set in there beautifully. You got the,

would be a transaxle in that, right? So you got a transaxle in the back,

and then you got the exhaust just coming off the side, all shortened right out the back. I mean,

it's, it's, it's cool, man. But, but servicing is, is pretty ambitious. So that's a,

last night when, when, when I spoke to the guys, we have to have it serviced. It's in need of a

belt service. So we're getting that done, providing dad's okay with the estimate. But it's, it's an

engine out service just for a belt exchange. And because it's a flat belt, it's not just an oval

loop. It's, it's more of a, you know, right angle. And it's a lot of work. I think they can do a

partial engine out. He kept saying partial. But for the most part, it's, you're undoing everything

and pretty much taking the engine out. It's easier if you just take the engine out all together.

So, so we're going to check the water pump there because it's in, it's in the front location and,

and, and, and, well, I don't mean we, they, and the, you know, the fuel lines and just make sure

everything is where it should be. There was a fuel line conversion done a while back where you

use stainless lines and they braze them together. And that's not the way to do it. And something

that's, you know, concealed heat and close proximity to the headers and, you know, all that

stuff has a point of failure in that brazing. Anyway, so, so I want to make sure this stuff

is safe for dad. If he doesn't mind me spending a little of his well earned dollars for his own

safety. It's much appreciated. I mean, I bought the cars in his, in his collection. Right. So

you brought up a good point. So your dad's still busy as, as can be and doesn't have time to give

all the cars as much as, as attention as they require. You've sort of taken on that role since

you've moved out of Tahoe closer to most of the cars. But your dad needs to sort of pick and

choose and go, well, which cars are more important to me? Which ones are worth, you know, more than

just elbow grease? Like which ones require a bunch of money invested into them? And of all the cars

in the collection, his 512 is arguably the most special to him as a family, right? That is the

one that, you know, it may not be the most valuable car in the collection, but that's the one you'd

want in your living room spinning on a, you know, on a rotisserie going around in circles or not the

rotisserie, but spinning on like a display going, this is the car, right? This is, you know, everything

around us, you know, my career is largely based on the success of this song and this car. So it's

very much so. It's the one that you walk by that car and go, thank you, buddy. Thank you. Well,

I think not only does, does, does what you see publicly, you know, reinforce that, but the car

has 67,000 miles on it. I mean, dad drove that car and continues to drive that car. You know,

he can still get in and out of it. The clutch is pretty forgiving. It's a forgiving vehicle to use,

because he's, he'll be 79 this year, and he's very fit. So it's something he can continue to

drive. But the Daytona, which is, which is my personal favorite in there. I love the 512,

but that Daytona excites me. It really does. And that thing's got a heavy clutch and no

power steering. It's hard to steer. It's hard to drive. It's very demanding. It's got that mile-long

hood. You sit low in the car, so the hood is at your chest. And it's, it's, it's, it's a hard car

to drive. It really is. You have to be very attentive and patient. But, you know, like that

car, he can't drive as easily and it doesn't hold the same experience for him. You know, so a car

like that, you know, of course, I'm more interested in keeping that one as prime as all the others.

But, but that, that car has been, been driven less and less over the years. And, and so it's

taken a bit more work, expensive work, to get it to, to, to a place where it's safe to drive.

And that's kind of how everything is in the collection. Some of those, he let me replace

the tires on the 400 and they were cracked and dry and old because he doesn't think that way.

He doesn't think like you and I where, oh, you got to have all these tools and you got to have

all these cleaning products and you got to have the right cover and you got to have, you know,

everything serviced and all these tires are already three years old. We got to replace them

because you need to, you need the freshest tires and he doesn't think like that at all. He's, he's,

he's very conservative. He's, he's driving to the ground until it needs something and then fix it

as it needs to be fixed. He doesn't, I mean, I'm sure he does preventative maintenance. I'm not

going to speak for him on that, but, but it's like, you know, to, he's like, I don't, I don't,

we don't need to put tires in that right now because I'm not driving it. It's like, yeah,

but when you want to drive it, you will have to get tires and they're not easy to get, you know,

that those TX tires are, I want to say TRX, I'm all screwed up now, but, but those tires that

I'm told Michelin only makes them in batches and, and they're hard to get and they're very expensive

and they're really weird sizes. And so when you kind of have an opportunity to get them,

when they're kind of fresh and not back inventory, you know, you should. So I finally,

I finally sent him enough pictures that he went, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, at least they're not super expensive compared to, you know, like when you're going,

Hey dad, we need tires on this car. We need engine out service on this car.

Let's do the tires this month. Maybe we'll do something later on.

I'm one of those people that like to just hit it, just hit one after the other,

just get them all up to par so that they're all ready. That's my goal. And he's like,

nah, nah, nah, slow down kiddo. Yeah. So, so at this place, I heard about some of the most

expensive tires I've heard of, which is on the Lamborghini LM002.

The truck. Yeah. The crazy SUV. He said to a tune of about 40 grand

for four tires. I've never heard of that. But does he have one of those?

No, dad doesn't, but there's one at the shop. Oh, okay. And when we were talking about tire

costs, he's like, oh, they get more than that. This is about the, the peak to the peak of what we

can do here. It seems like you could hire a company to make a tire for less money than that.

But that's what they are. I guess they're specially made because it's heavy and because it has certain

performance standards and weight standards and all these things. It's a very unique specialized

tire. I'm sure we're going to hear from some people, but that, that's just what I was told folks.

But it's, yeah, yeah. You know, I know on, on some of the race cars,

it, you know, when, when Adam started going out to Monterey, we were bringing cars out there,

you know, 15 plus years ago. If I remember correctly, it was a little bit more like it has

to be authentic and it has to be this. And, and now to get those cars out there and to run them

and to be safe with them, the rules of kind of, I don't know, maybe they just kind of softened

up a little bit, you know, because, you know, like taking the Porsche 935s out there, those guys

run hard. Bruce Kenapa and those guys, they won those things hard. And, you know, obviously not

running the original wheels, but even the original tire size and wheel size, that's,

that's gone. That's how you can't even get those tires really, you know, you can't get them.

So, and, and if you go to Kenapa, he's like, no, this is what we're running. Everybody's running

these. We're all running these 18s or whatever. We're not doing the staggered wheels. Like this

is what we're running. And that's just the way it is. And it's just become the acceptable solution

because you can't get the tires. Yeah. That's the problem with, with these old Ferraris,

there's a similar thing too, where I've had a couple people say, well, why don't you do these

tight wheels? Because they look almost the same. They're almost identical,

but they're this size and you can put a standard, you know, sport cup two

on there or you can put whatever you want on there and, and they're going to handle better.

They're going to feel better. They're going to drive better, you know, and, and I kind of started

to bring it up and he, he took a phone call or something. It just wasn't, it wasn't interested.

You know, but that's the way I think a lot of us think now. It's like, it's okay. You don't have

to be an absolute purist because you can still give the impression, but, but the drivability

and the safety and, and just the wear and tear availability, all that stuff counts these days.

And I would much rather put a contemporary set of wheels on there that has a better fitment,

looks very much like the originals, but maybe they look better because they just fill it out

a little better. But, but it's still a nod to, to, to the old styling, but it's a better compound.

It's a better rubber. It's a better tire. It's better performing. It's smoother. It's quieter.

Some of those old tires suck. They really do. They just, I mean, sure you're getting the,

the authentic vintage experience, but the way our roads are made is to changed and everything

about it has changed. And I don't know. I'd much rather have it be better driving than nostalgic.

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Okay. So a question about the, the 512, the, I can't drive 55 car. I don't know if this has

ever even come up with, in like, I, I know your dad has had some thoughts on to, with like,

just businesses and in things like that, like, you know, what would he sell? What would he keep in

the family and, you know, so the family's taken care of things like that. Would your dad ever

sell the 512? And you know what? I have no idea. Dad, dad, I would like to say

from my observation that dad is very financially driven.

Right. So in my head, I'm going, all right. So maybe in his lifetime, does he go,

let's take this thing to, to, to car week or something or, you know, or to even to Barrett

Jackson and go, we're going to, we're going to change the game on, on 512s. This car is going

to go for a million dollars. So would he take a million dollars for it? You know, maybe he already

thinks it's worth the million dollars because it's, it's his car. It's a special car, but listen,

I don't, I don't disagree with him. If these cars are trading a four or 500,000, he's got the most

famous 512 in the world. You know, people only, he's not proven wrong very often, right?

Listen, he hasn't gotten to where he is because of making a bunch of really bad financial

businesses. Exactly. He's usually pretty right when it comes to that kind of stuff, right? So

I don't disagree. I think it's easily a million dollar car. Yeah. But I don't know,

maybe he's just like, this car needs to stay in the family or this car needs to

have some sort of guarantee. Like it needs to be put into a museum and there's a proper contract

and donation going on and this car never gets sold off. And it's a part of a museum. And if a

museum ever goes bankrupt, it's somehow resort, it goes back to the family or something, something

along the lines of that. I don't know that he's thought that far ahead. You know, obviously

at his age, he's, he's taking a lot of steps to secure the estate and his legacy and things. But

we really haven't discussed it much. Dad doesn't like to talk about it. And he sure as hell doesn't

want to talk about his business or how he conducts it or any trusts or anything that he has in place.

I haven't a clue. I mean, literally, I haven't a clue. None of us do. He's very private with

that. And I've always grown up with him saying, you know, what's mine is mine. It's not yours.

You're not entitled to it. You know, I've earned it. It's my right. It's not yours. So don't even

put your head anywhere near that. And it's really true. And he was cruel about it in a couple

instances where he was misinformed and I was driving some things because I was asked to and

he was misinformed. So he got upset about it. But, but I learned very quickly, you know, I don't

take liberties with those cars, even though it's quote unquote my, my, my job, my task right now

look after them. I exercise them very conservatively. I don't, I don't rev them out. I don't run them hard.

I have a, I have two different loops I take that are relatively short enough to

calculatedly get the fluids all up to temperature and get everything warmed up. If it needs fuel,

I have this stop if I need to exercise it a little further because the tires are flat spot a little

bit. I go to this next section and basically having 37 right there, which is a long straight away

road that goes to the racetrack. My extension at its furthest point on an exercise is the racetrack

because I can, I can put race fuel in the car, top it off with some something that's going to sit,

you know, well, and then drive it back. I'll take it to my shop if I'm going to do a full

detail or take it to servicing, which is really close to my shop. It's five minutes away.

So it's easier to take it there, stage it because they work in the evenings. So then we can meet

in the evening right before dark or just to dusk and, and, and I can take the car in.

And I've done that a couple of times, which I just did. But other than that, they're not my cars,

and I take care of them as dad's property. And what he does with them is really, is really him,

you know, once in a while, he gets a little, a little amber and he, and he goes, you know,

big flame comes up and he goes, I want to sell this and we'll make some efforts and either it

does or it doesn't like the LaFerrari and he sold the Jaguar X key to the same gentleman that bought

the LaFerrari because he wanted a kind of a pair. He had mentioned the 512, but not in a serious way,

just knowing its value, but because they're so undervalued. He wanted to sell one of his other

cars recently. And they're so undervalued, they're, they're worthless. And, but he was having a lot

of trouble with it and it just left him stranded that one extra time, which was the vanquish.

And, and so he was thinking maybe getting rid of it, but they're, they're not worth anything.

And he was really disappointed. So it's not worth it for him. So he's very financially driven.

I don't know what I might end up with when he's gone. I don't want to think about it, but

as far as I know, nothing. So it may all get sold. He may sell it all, but I think as he's

able to drive something less or he doesn't have an interest in driving it anymore,

that's probably on the chopping block. How many cars do you think are in the collection?

You know, I haven't counted yet. 15, 18 to something, something around there. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Because I mean, every car, every car that he has is a special car and kind of has a story

or at least they had a moment during, during his life. It's a little, it's a little different

than the collecting for collecting sake. Yeah. He doesn't collect cars. He, he buys things that he,

he really likes. He's really after, he wants the experience and he holds onto them.

One of the only cars I saw come and go quickly, Lotus Elise, which he just, he got, he got hot

form one day and I found him a good one and, and it just sat. He drove it once or twice, you know.

But he had a little, a little smart car. I mean, why would someone like him buy a smart car?

He bought a smart car. He stuck a chicken foot sticker on it and did a bunch of silly stuff

in the chicken foot days and sold that car with some pretty good miles on it. He drove it up and

down the mountain and then he got a little Fiat 500 to Barth beat that thing to the ground, man,

just, you know, drove the crap out of it because he just wanted something small to run up and down

the mountain down to the studio and back. And yeah, so you just, you never know, but he keeps

stuff for a long time. Most everything he has in there is something that he was passionate about

and he's held onto. The Cobra is kind of newer because he had one when I was in high school.

He sold it because it was undrivable. It was 289 with a Paxton Blower from the factory. It's just,

he used to pick me up at the airport. I probably told the story before, but insane car, loved it,

never got to drive it myself because I was too young. And, and, and he's kind of been after it

off and on for years and he finally committed and we had Shelby make him one, you know, but

much like his old one, but nice and drivable and he loves that thing. So sometimes he revisits an idea

and, and it's really fun because he always kind of puts me out on a task and, and I have to act

quickly because, you know, get on the fire is hot kind of thing. Yeah, the iron's hot. I'm getting

all my things wrong. I'm sorry. But it's really fun to chase some of that stuff with him and for

him. He was hot for a little, a little sunbeam tiger for a while and I had it perfect and the

buyer was, or the seller was ready and then he changed his mind like a week later. I'm like,

oh, I'm so sorry, dude. He changed his mind. This is how I'm the guy, you know, like I'm on the deck.

That's happened a couple times. But yeah, you know, he just, I mean, we do that, right? But we

turn cars over like crazy because we want to experience and there's a huge list of cars I

still want to experience, including a Ferrari. I would still love to have my own Ferrari. I'm

really, I'm not really trying, but I'm really trying because I don't drive dad's cars like

their mind. So, so that experience is his and I'm preserving it. Yeah. I would really like to

own something of that era, a little 308 GT4 or even a little Ferrari Fiat Dino or something that I

relate to and just enjoy it and drive it the way I want to drive it and experience it the way I

want to experience it. I'm glad that you're looking after your dad's cars and he's asked you to do that

because I think it's important to have somebody that can answer questions about those cars when

the time comes or like you said, something comes up or he just wants to sell something or buy something

and go, can we trade this? Can we trade that? You will be able to answer quickly and go, and

well, you know, I was just in the garage. I looked at that car. That car is in good shape.

Absolutely. It's ready to move, right? Or I looked at this car and a couple little things I'd like

to do to it first and then, you know, just somebody who can answer the questions about it

because you kind of have to know and that's not always the case, you know, especially on cars

that need attention as a project car. I mean, Adam's had racing cars and, you know,

like something broke on the track or whatever and it kind of moved to the back of the line

and now years have gone by. I'm sure he knows more than I do, but I'm looking at that car going,

I don't even remember what needs to be done. Does it even have an engine block in it? Like,

did we take the engine out? Is it engine in it? Like, is it on it? Like, I don't even remember now.

I keep detailed lists and I have a whiteboard there with all the last, the latest, like the last

two or three steps of whatever it was. And yeah, I keep detailed lists. You need to. And sometimes

I'll just throw them in the car. I'll throw them on a sheet of paper on the seat, like address these

or here's the start sequence. You know, here's the tire pressure. You know, I keep notes on tire

pressure. You know, I mean, it's like, you have to keep those notes because that's what happens.

Time passes and next thing you know, something catastrophic happens because you forgot that

there was a bad fuel line or that there was a, you know, a tooth missing and second gear or whatever.

Yeah. The one thing that I do, if I'm working on a car and let's say it runs and I'm working on a car,

if it ever doesn't have any sort of fluid in it, I put that, I write it in tape and stick it on the

steering wheel. Right. So if it says no oil or no, no trans fluid, no rear fuel, like right on the

steering, I'll put, you know, blue tape on the steering wheel and go, no oil, right? Because

that way anybody who's going to sit in it goes, oh, don't, don't, don't touch this thing yet.

Somebody's doing something here. And if the steering wheel is really sticky in a spot,

look for that blue tape on the floor. Yeah, right. Look for that blue tape on the, on the floor.

Okay. Well, I'd say we could ask your dad these questions about the cars, but he's busy. He's,

yeah, he's busy or where I think you and I are both going to attend the show this weekend and

the last show of this leg of his residency in Vegas. So that's going to be fun.

Yeah. So that he's got what, a Thursday, Friday, Saturday show or is it Wednesday?

I think it's Wednesday, Friday, Saturday. Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, the least of the

last shows. Yeah. We will be out there Saturday. And then he goes back in September for another

correct, like, like, what are these like 10 day residency does like six shows like that. Yeah.

And if it's six shows or nine shows, I'm not sure. I have to look in detail at the schedule, but

yeah, then he's doing some, some runs through the Midwest, back East, I think, and then

off to Europe in July. Yeah, he's, he's still doing it, man.

After all these years, if you follow him on, you know, like you guys listening, if you follow

Sammy on social media, he's done always talking about cars, but just interesting how leading up

to this residency again, I don't want to say like nervous is the right word, but he always

goes into it going, I know our first show is not going to be our best show. We've done this

for 60 years, but our first show is not going to be our best show. It was so good I hear.

It was the second show that he said started off a little rough.

But they go in, they rehearse, you know, he does a Wednesday show that he does Friday show,

he did a Saturday show. He said Saturday show was really good. He said that one was just off

the hook good. And so now in my head, I'm going, oh, well, maybe it's better we're going to Saturday

show because he's going to do another Wednesday, Friday, Saturday. I mean, they're all going to

be great. Well, the last show is always fun because that's that's when he usually has special

guests and a lot of exciting stuff goes on. And for sure, any of us going there and watching

the show probably won't really even notice the difference between what he considers a

less than ideal show and a good show, right? He'll just feel it a certain way or he'll just

hear like a subtle subtlety that we're all so excited and having a good time. Like it doesn't

really matter if if if something was even off a note here, a note there or somebody's playing

something a little, you know, like it doesn't matter. That's what live shows are about. It's

just like, you know, go to like any live sporting event. That's what it's about too. Right? Like

people even say to me, they go, would you go to a basketball game? I'm like, yeah,

I've gone to basketball games. I don't watch it on TV or anything like that. But live events are

fun to go to. Yeah, that they are. That there's just an energy and a spirit and it's it's it's

life. Live rocks. It rules. I don't care what it is. You go and see it live. It's it is the

experience. But I'm that way about sports, music, motor sports. Yeah, the whole experience. Like,

I mean, I don't watch sports. I've been to basketball games. I've been to football games. I've

always a delight. Do I continue to go? No, but I took the experience and I was wowed by it and

it was awesome. Yeah, you've been watching your neighbor's kid and their final game of the year

or whatever, you know, you go, you know, you go, you support the kid, you support your neighbor,

and you have a great time, you know, and you watch all the coach parents out there yelling

at each other. It's pretty fun, you know, but yeah, it's it's just good. So yeah, you can kind of do

no wrong. I mean, there's, of course, exceptions to that, but you can kind of do no wrong and and

whatever whatever upset dad, you know, whether it was a his voice, cracked or I think dad being

an athlete and a perfectionist and a professional, he wants to be the best he can be all the time.

And I think if he doesn't, if he doesn't perform to his max, if his knee is hurting him or if he's

his ankle gave out and so now he can't move around as much or his voice is a little dry because he

overworked at the night before and he just can't get there, you know, that's going to drive him nuts

and it's going to take a little while for him to get his head out of it, you know. But once he

starts having fun and something else magical happens, it kind of balances it out and he'll

move on. But I think anyone is like that with anything that they do, you know, I mean, I do

that with the painting. I was stuck on this new painting I'm doing, I had a spot that I just

overworked and finally I got a great big, actually a bigger brush than that. I just grabbed a great

big obnoxious brush and I just started working it with a big brush. It's like stop focusing in on

the details and just look at the big picture and it's really true. Sometimes you have to stop and

get out of your own head and nitpick the little details and just remember that we're all here to

have fun. We're all here to enjoy the show and let's just give it what you got left, you know.

Yeah. So it's good. It's good. All right. Well, look, my advice to you, your dad and everybody else,

stretch and hydrate. Yeah. Our sponsor. Yeah, right. Just stretch and hydrate.

I think we're gonna wrap things up for today. I have more stuff to talk about. The stuff you

sent me, the spark plug thing, I'd love to touch on that real quick if we can. Yeah, let's do it.

Yeah. Because you sent me a link to a really cool channel which I actually subscribed to because I

watched their wrenches comparison too. They're very methodical. They're really scientific about

it and this one was about spark plugs. Yeah, it was backup. So I sent you a video for a channel

called Tork Test Channel. That's right. Tork Test. And they did a big test on a bunch of spark plugs

and it wasn't necessarily about which spark plugs are better. It's about buying fake. So he bought

spark plugs. He bought NGK Rydium, I think Denso Rydium Champion Rydium plugs. He bought them from

different locations and it was very forthcoming on where he bought these from Rock Auto. These are

from eBay. These are from Amazon and he went through the differences. He literally got three boxes

of NGK spark plugs, Rydium spark plugs. Yeah, he spent like 500 bucks on all these spark plugs.

All the same part number from different vendors and went through the details of each plug from the

threads and the electrodes and the strap and the box and the colors and the fonts and going these

are all sold as the same thing. They are not the same and the ones he got on eBay were fake. The

went through them and tested the plugs to show the differences. And this is what's misleading was

not for him, but for the customer. What could be misleading is all the spark plugs worked as a

spark plug. It was just because if you're trying to scam somebody and the product doesn't work,

they're going to want to return it. But if the product works for 12,000 miles instead of 60,000

miles, then you start thinking your engine is bad or something's wrong or your spark is bad or

your ignition system and you go buy more plugs. But if what it turned out was is you got duped.

And thank you. That was a much better introduction to it. But how this trickled down to me and my

wife actually watched it out of the corner of her eye with me because we had just had the

conversation yesterday about cosmetics and some other things that she's purchased and even some

things that I purchased for her that were kind of suspicious. And she was saying, yeah, I was

reading something and a lot of the cosmetics on Amazon and eBay aren't the real deal. And I had

bought her something that she asked for for Christmas. And she said, yeah, it was a little

suspicious. Like the safety seal wasn't the same. In fact, I think it wasn't even there.

She said the packaging looked a little different. And, and, you know, of course she was she didn't

want to say, you got me a fake one. I'm like, oh, shit, you know, it's not like buying a fake

Louis Vuitton or Rolex or something from from a place where you know it's fake. Yeah, this is

this is places that we shop regularly, regularly. And, you know, you might go to Amazon immediately

or you might go to to eBay immediately and try to find one for a little better value maybe used

or returned. But I got to say, you know, I bought plenty of things on on both platforms that

that just haven't been right. And I didn't really consider it. And, and now that I look back on

some of them that I haven't had the right experience with, it really does a disservice to

the manufacturer of the real one, when it's not built to their standards and, and just doesn't

work as well. I mean, you know, we've seen counterfeit Apple products and AirPods and

headphones and yeah, certainly watches. Yeah, and certainly watches and they seem to work fine.

And you know, a watch is a pretty good example because I think the fake Rolexes and some of the

fake, you know, watches are getting so good that not only is it hard to tell the difference, but

their performance is pretty accurate. And, and it's, it's within a tolerance that none of us

would ever notice or recognize. But a lot of these other products like the spark plugs aren't,

and they can actually do more harm in the long run, because especially on a very sophisticated

high performance engine, or even a turbo four cylinder, which is high performance because

of the demand of that little four cylinder, not necessarily that's a high tech car, but

just the demand of that is very electronically driven. It can throw off a lot of readings and

therefore premature wear and other components and something as simple as a spark plug can really

have a large effect on the bigger picture and the longevity and your experience in the long run.

You saved three bucks on a set of spark plugs, but it's going to cost you 20 grand over the lifetime

of the car. Yeah, just because of those spark plugs. But where do you find a reliable product?

Because, because eBay used to be the standard. Now it's Amazon. And those are not only not

always trustworthy. So a place like rock auto or a trusted, you know, nap auto parts or Riley

auto parts, a place that you can go in once again, support your local business or chain and go in

there and buy it firsthand. And if you want to check it there and let them know with the new

information that you learned, let them know. Hey, look, there's only one electrode. There

should be two. I think you might have some fakes, you know, call them to the side of the counter,

maybe not in front of the rest of the lot. But, but, you know, keep that trust going and keep that

level of satisfaction going. Because yeah, it's a big problem and it's everywhere. It's with foods,

folks. I mean, we're talking food, you know, not only electronics, but in luxury items,

especially luxury. But food and beverage and little things that you might buy, paint brushes,

I mean, things that you glass wear, I mean, doesn't matter. There's counterfeits everywhere.

And your expectation and experience in those products is going to be compromised. So

yet, what you pay for, I mean, there's definitely some truth to that. Yeah.

And buy from the source itself. You know, if you're going to buy something, go to their

website. I know it takes a little longer sometimes, but go to their website, buy the real deal.

You know, I found fakes at antique stores. My mom collected this cool little artifact,

and me and I found the great value down in Garnerville one day, and we brought it home

and put it next to her other ones, which are authentic and antique. And we questioned whether

it was an addition that maybe they ran that we weren't as familiar with, that we were sitting

there trying to justify it. And the reality is they were probably knockoffs. They're really good

knockoffs and perfectly acceptable. In fact, they were vintage knockoffs. But yeah, they were a

similar product made by a different company, and that was very apparent when you had them side by

side. So yeah, it's everywhere. Even in an antique store. And I oftentimes go down the

hole on YouTube for some of these things. Like I like the testing. So this

YouTube channel, this Tork test channel, that's a good one. Another one that I'm going to give you

is Lake Speed Junior. He's the motor oil geek on YouTube. He's been on the car cast many times

in the past, and he's such a smart, smart guy when it comes to, certainly when it comes to

oil. And he does these really, really thorough testing and stuff and dyno testing and

can really kind of break down the specifics of what makes a good oil and what makes a bad oil.

His is a good channel as well. And he's got his company Speed Diagnostics that does oil testing.

So you're buying a car or you're something you pick up at like a pair of Jackson or whatever

auction or vintage race car, and then you kind of want to get the status of it. You can run that

car. You can take samples of that oil, send it in, and he will test it, come back and tell you

everything about it. That's going to tell you a lot. Sure, it does. It tells you a lot. I can't

even get into all the things that is in there because I don't want to speak for him. But he

can come back and explain it in a way that makes sense to you, going, this is what this means.

It's got debris and it's got metal shavings in it. It's got this, it's got that, or it's got heat.

It looked like it was heated too much. Like maybe there's an issue there. It's got coolant in it.

It's got gas in it. Yeah, coolant in it. Yeah, there's a lot to know. All that kind of stuff.

That's why you see on some of these TV shows, they pull the dipstick out. Not only do they look

at the quality of the oil, but they smell it. You can tell if a car has been sitting,

there's usually, it's fuel-y. You can tell if it hasn't been changed by its viscosity,

but also by its smell. It smells burnt. It smells nasty. You can smell if it has coolant in it. Coolant

makes it smell terrible and you'll see some foam on the cap. But there's all these telltale signs,

but to do it to that degree is just awesome. It's how beautiful and primitive. Oh, guess what?

You're going to need a head gasket soon because there's just a trace of coolant in there.

Yeah, interesting. Or you could have a wall that's starting to disintegrate.

Right. They come back and they go, I know this car has been sitting for a while. We've done a lot

of tests, but we're pretty sure there's vermin involved. Yeah, there's rat furan in the oil.

There's access to it somewhere. Yeah, that's funny. I went down to the parking

garage the other day and having driven my other truck in a while and when I drove up,

I saw something run. Oh, no. Something run. I think it was a mouse. It was a mouse. So I

immediately opened the hood and I was like, what kind of nest is in here? Check the glove box.

Yeah. Well, the first thing I check is the hood liner, but that truck doesn't have a hood

liner on it, but the hood liner is a perfect place to chew it up and right on the top of your

intake manifold is this nice fiberglass packing sort of nest. Yeah. It's like having cotton candy on

your nightstand. Yeah. Grab a chunk, stick it in your mouth, maybe under your pillow.

Oh, man. We're going to wrap things up now. So much to talk about.

All right, guys. We'll see you next week. Brad will be back next week. I'll see you on the weekend.

I'll see you Saturday. I don't see a flashing recording light in the corner. It's up there.

Okay. Just not on my side. Yeah, it's up there. Okay. All right, Matt. Thanks for listening,

everyone. Thanks, man. See you later.

Porsche collector Magnus Walker lists cars and parts at auction. Ferrari 512 BB values, spark plug scams and more - Shift & Steer EP560

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