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Revved Up & Rolling
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A lively discussion unfolds as the hosts dive into the latest automotive news, including the surprising bankruptcy of parts suppliers despite high demand. They reminisce about iconic brands like BBS wheels and the evolution of car manufacturers producing parts in-house. The conversation also touches on the intriguing concept of AI-driven drifting cars and the societal shift in attitudes towards leaving substances in vehicles. With humor and personal anecdotes, the episode offers a unique perspective on the automotive landscape and the impact of technology on car culture.
Topics:
parts supply issues
bankrupt suppliers
BBS wheels nostalgia
in-house manufacturing
AI drifting technology
leaving substances in cars
automotive news
car culture evolution
In this episode of "Revved Up & Rolling" we explore the latest trends in the automotive world. From the rise of replica BBS wheels to the closure of a Recaro division, we cover it all. Plus, we talk about cutting-edge smart windows and Ford's throwback to rare paint jobs like Mystic Chrome. Don't miss out on these hot topics and more! #AutoTrends #SmartTech #ClassicPaintJobs #CarCulture
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Speaker 2: Happy Saturday, America. You're listening Let's Talk Cars Radio and
w KQA Freedom Radio. I'm your host, Big Davpa hanging
out with Camera Chaos and AVB. Hey guys, it has
been an interesting week. Let me tell you so, you know,
I tell you guys all the time. We get some
weeks where, you know, all the other news seems to take over over automotive news. Right. Well, this week has
been like just full of like the strangest stories or different things or stuff we've talked about before. They are
now coming back around to light and stuff. So I
will jump in that this week pretty quickly. It was funny.
So it's a lot of our listeners will send me these stories, like they'll send me clips of stories and stuff.
Then I try to like accumulate all of them. But
I get so much stuff that I'm trying to wead through and figure out like which ones are the best ones to talk about. But this week was it was
such a mixed bag of like all the different stuff that people sent me. It was just all over the
map stuff. So if you guys, remember we've been talking
about automotive parts and how they're getting harder to get a hold of, and you know, you got cars sitting for three weeks waiting for parts to come in, and then more and more I talk with a lot of the auto garages and I'm friends with and stuff. It
just becomes more of a reoccurrence. Well, this week with
Inside the News, it was talking about automotive manufacturers or parts and stuff like that that are you know, going bankrupt and they're you know, closing down. And I was like,
I don't understand, like the demand is ever popped more popular right in the world for car stuff, rather it's aftermarket or just parts or whatever. I mean, we need stuff.
When were talking I think it was last week we were talking about how, you know, I believe cash or conquerors killed that used market side of things, but these are new parts. Like it's amazing to me that I
see that parts suppliers who are manufacturing parts are suffering and they're going out of business. And so Nathaniel and
I in camera, we all got talking about it before we came on the air today, and I guess there is a little bit of an explanation for it, right, So if you really break it down, back when I was younger and when you guys were younger, those of you I know that listened to my show that are my age or order than me, a lot of stuff was outsourced. So car manufacturers outsourced a lot of the
cool stuff on cars. So if you had special brakes,
you had special wheels, all that kind of stuff, that was all just like on other people's tech, right, right, So they were getting that stuff and bringing that stuff and putting them on cars. One of the conversations that
Nathaniel I got into that we were talking about so we saw an article on on BBS wheels. So BBS
wheels is there subsidiary or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah insufficient, Yeah, so insufficient and then cars going bankrupt, right, So.
Speaker 2: You know, BBS wheels for a lot of us, guys, man, those those were like the hot ticket. I was telling Nathaniel,
I said, you know, I remember when BBS wheels when somebody had, I mean, that was like a big thing to have. And I remember there was two girls that
drove rabbits in high school and they had BBS wheels on them. They were lowered down the car and it
just made it took a rabbit from kind of being just a regular kind of car to at me, looks kind of cool with those wheels on it. And then
of course a lot of the BMW's you know, had them on them and stuff like that. So was it
the wheels? Wheels bake everything. I'm one of those people
that tell you that wheels. Okay, So you guys know,
sidetracked for a second. I you know, we're still building
the bad am. So the hardest thing for Eli doing
we'll get into that. That's in the show to this week.
The hardest thing for me to make a decision on is wheels. Now, I have a really cool what I
believe is cool, and you guys tell me if you agree.
I have a really cool set of Keystone Classics that came with the car and been on it since the seventies. Okay, uh,
I think. I think they're a hot looking wheel in
the car, But there they also date the car, right, So I'm like, do I keep with those, you know I mean? Or do I keep with those that maybe
get a different offset so it has a little deeper offset, because you know, having a bigger lip this looks better on cars. Nowadays we realize that it just gives a
car of a different stance. But wheels are the hardest thing.
That'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 4: Me as like a car person and a little bit of a car person, I think it would still be cool with when the car first rerolled, you know, because right now it has tires off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got we're slowly get in the front end of the frust.
Speaker 4: Has mentioned off. It's about back together. We're getting charge
where a normal person would be right, you know, boot breaks.
But I think it would be cool for the first time it did roll if it still had its original tires that it came off of the dealer.
Speaker 2: Then it didn't come off the deership floor with those oaft market add on. But for the car being a
one owner in our family, us being the only owner of the car, it's had those Keystone Classics on it.
And then if you guys don't know the difference, and a lot of you guys do, you know, Keystone Classics were the thing, and if you couldn't afford Keystone Classics, you bought Craggers because they were were the cheaper knockoff.
Even though that name became bigger over time, they were cheaper than Keystone Classics at the time. So now you
don't hear those names anywhere. Well, you do every once
in a while for some of the older guys that like cars and stuff like that. But like I said,
wheel selection is a really hard thing. So that's the
reason why manufacturers back in the day went outside the box, I think for a lot of stuff. Now move forward
into the future and manufacturers are doing things in house, so they're designing their own wheels, coming up with a cool wheel designed to go in their car that complements the car well, and they're not reaching outside as much.
So I think that's the reason why suddenly you see some of these autot especially like a BBS, seeing such an impact because I remember that, you know, that was an add on. And so think about if you have
BBS wheels and they're on your car and you bought them from the deal ship from that and how many dealerships are is so say fifteen thousand you know at that time, fifteen thousand dealerships across America and all of them have you know, are getting cars with BBS wheels on them to go on their law. That's all. That's
a big thing. That's a big thing. That's a big purchase.
Now you get manufacturers that aren't doing aftermarket brand wheels on their cars. They're designing their own wheels for their cars.
That's a big tap.
Speaker 3: So they were just at the time, they were just worrying about their own car, right They weren't really focused on exhaust or wheels or right time.
Speaker 2: They're worried about the cars. So that's the reason why
you know, back in the day you had Borla exhausts came on cars. Okay, so if they had to buy
all that stuff from Borless. So there are some manufacturers
getting paid because the manufacturers decided to put that exhaust on their cars. That's if that once that manufacturer said Okay,
we're going to in house designer on the exhaust and come up with their own exhaust sound. We're not gonna
buy this anymore. And I'm not saying that's the case,
but that's how this works there. Think about it. You
have how many cars are produced in a year, and you have all those cars, and now aren't gonna put install your exhaust because they're gonna do it in the house.
They're gonna put their own wheels on in the house.
They're gonna do their own stereo systems now. Because if
you guys remember back in the day, like having a bow stereo system in a car was.
Speaker 4: Like a well that was also Sony. Every Sony used
to be a big name or was.
Speaker 2: It Delphi was Delphi was huge. Like there was not
say Delfi or be anything cool. Maybe they did. I
never saw one in a car. Maybe I couldn't wann
a car they had a cool Delfi, but you know that was like you're just Delphi, major generic radio that went in the car. I mean that was just who
made it so well. For instance, Okay, so there was
cars back in the day that it had the die hard battery. It came to the Diehard battery in it,
you know what I mean. So now you have Toyota battery,
you have this, you know I mean, like they decided to make their own batteries. So then now you have
all these car companies that aren't buying that part or whatever it may be. Competition. Sears had it forever to
you know what I mean, So serious was the die Hard Sears. Don't make me feel because I remember when
it was Sears and Roebucks. But that's still that's a
whole nother story.
Speaker 4: I don't know when Steers used to offer store credit, okay credit and then it went away.
Speaker 2: Or did they buy them out? No, just just what
I think Seers and they sell car car stuff too.
Over there you have all kinds of stuff. Everybody's tried it.
So back in the Day series you could almost anything serious, all your tractor parts, all kinds of stuff like that.
Like if you had a Seis in a talent it was kind of like having like an ace hardware on steroids or whatever. Center. Well, yeah, but they did. Most
people don't even know what that is. That listen to
the show because if you're not, I think in the Virginia area, you probably wouldn't know what that is. It got, Yeah,
they got everything. If you all don't know what's talking
and what we're talking about, you guys go a couple episodes when we were looking for bolts, we couldn't find them at any autoparts store.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: We literally found the right bolts at Ace Hardware. It
was Ace hard it was a Taylor No, it's Tailor's, right, there was Taylor's, just tailors. We go in and they
have an automotive section inside of Taylor's for nuts and bolts, and it just it mystified me to death that here three auto parts suppliers didn't have any anything I needed.
And I walked into a lawn and garden place and they got an automotive section had the exact bolts I need it, which just and they literally were labeled.
Speaker 4: Maybe they're doing maybe they're just going out of business as well. You never know.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, like I said, it's just it's interesting to me. Like and then I it was as we
were having the conversation, like we get a lot I get a lot of listeners that sent us like questions or they read an article and they asked, you know, and they they and they and they have us kind of chime in on it. And as I read the things,
I was just like, I don't understand how we're losing all these you know, these companies are having problems. But then,
believe it or not, it was when Sanel and I got conversation that's really kind of what shed the light on It's like, Okay, yeah, I guess that does make sense that, you know, Automni and Finick auto manufacturers are not purchasing.
Speaker 1: A lot of it.
Speaker 2: They're not relying on them anymore. Yeah, they're not relying
on that. They wanted to do everything in house.
Speaker 3: Things are getting more expensive, you know, shipping things, you know, costs a lot more money to Well, there's a bunch of things that are just adding up.
Speaker 2: Let's say you produce fifty five thousand Mustangs. How many
Musting Look up how many Mustings they make in a year.
Let's say, well, you're not going to put a custom exhaust.
Speaker 3: Another thing is right is that most times when they do put like performance parts on, it is for their performance version of the car, so it's not on their everyday car. But you're only getting a Borla if you're
getting you know, like.
Speaker 2: Like Okay, so fifty fifty five I was closed. That
was pretty close. That was really real close. But what
if like, okay, so Mustang is kind of doing a lot of stuff in house right this second other unless you go roush or something like that. Right, that's a
performance session. But before you had that, they were buying
stuff from somebody else, you know what I mean. But
there wasn't performance based though, was it? Though, Like you
weren't so look up in the eighties, Like you.
Speaker 3: Weren't getting RECRL seats and a base model. Okay, so
you're buying the perfect model of it.
Speaker 2: No, No, absolutely so if you got Ricardo's not on the list, so we Carlo's going bankrupt, which, by the way, if you guys look back a couple of years ago, we did a whole segment with Carls with Ricardo in their seats and stuff when they were at Sema, and uh, I've always loved the product. I think they have just
a superior product in a lot of ways when it comes to if you're looking for functionality and then and then actually designed, they put both into their seats. You
know a lot of times people go, why you know, I race seats stuff like that and then a race seats just a race seat, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I think that's what kind of killed them, right, was that at the end of the day, it was just a race seat. There was nothing that was new in
technology or kind of like you know, out of this world.
Speaker 2: So like you know, like like like I feel like.
Speaker 3: You know, for a certain reason why companies started, you know, pull away and do their own thing was because you know, they want the air cooling seats, they want the heats heated seats, but they still want that race factor.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of like what but where Carl has always been like the top the top of the line. Yeah, but they went to the design too.
So if you you're in a seat and it still has comfort to it, it's not just like a it looks like a race but it's there's comfort there too, right, right, And now they have that when we were seeing what we saw, they had a whole o their line of different, like they made seats that still would hug you and stuff, but they're they're focusing on right.
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's what kind of killed their market, right, was that it was just a slow approach to things that you know, like other companies, it didn't take them no time to kind of jump to the market.
Speaker 2: I've agreed to disagree with you on it just for the fact that I was impressed with a lot of designs that they had at Sema.
Speaker 3: So well, I'm not saying it wasn't impressive, but I just feel like that they were kind of slow at times where the competition kind of jumped in faster than they did.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I will accept that. I see Cameron staring,
what do you got? Oh?
Speaker 4: So I was actually just taking a look at a couple of different things. So Ford Mustang is known for
using Bordla, Magna Flow and flow Master exhausts. The Chevy
Corvette is known for using Corsa. They're also known for
Borla as well. If boiler goes out at the company, we're.
Speaker 2: Almost okay, So that's a perfect example. What if that
manufacturer just decided we're not going to do that in the performance, but we're gonna create all our own stuff and only our own stuff, and that's just gonna be what it is, you know what I mean? Like, then
what you know at that point in time, what do you do? Let's just say that Ford design a superior
exhaust that everybody just decided they loved they just had to have that. Well, then they would not there would
be no aftermarket world in that Abbage Well Breeze competition highlight.
Speaker 3: I mean, I do agree that, you know, the big the big boss has a you know, a better way of solving their problems because you know, they got money to throw at the problem and so. But at the
same time, it breeds competition, and they can do it for cheaper and you know, better products.
Speaker 4: And I know those ones were just like you know, performance cards like Ford, Mustange and Corvette. So I did
do a little bit of research, like on the normal.
Speaker 2: Cars every day guy called.
Speaker 3: Like Toyota, but they're only on their performance version zone not though so Toyota CAMERI also used Borla and Magna Flow as a company to create some of their exhausteds well on their top versions.
Speaker 2: Though there's only right it.
Speaker 4: Just says regular regular right here. I mean, I'm going
to get in certain information. But Honda Accords, did you
know they used they also used Magna Flow, but they used two other companies that were mentioned other people, h KS and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is that out of that out of the dealership or is that aftermarket somebody installing? That's the question,
because like was the HKS I remember like a lot of people had that on Honta Civics and stuff like that because that was an aftermarket add on. So was
it but it was add on at the dealership or was something you talk about people that are buying these and putting them on themselves, because that's the difference, right, Like, and I guess it doesn't really matter because if Honda was to go and develop a really cool exhaust, nobody would go in buy aftermarket and change the sound right, right, because certain cars like have a very unique sound to them right off the dealership, right, no matter what it is.
And people like that and some people don't, So that okay, So he Nate is right.
Speaker 4: It was on certain things like if you've got a certain package on the vehicle. So like Toyota Camry, they
did it with their TRD version, right, their Toyota Racing Development version where their exhaust system was designed by the Toyota Racing Development That makes sense, but they had unique wheels that were done by third party people, so that sterarifies it.
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's sad that you have some of these manufacturers are being effective because people are doing stuff in house. Hopefully, you know, keep our fingers crossed that
some of these companies still hang out because they're very nostalgic and they do have great products. So there's good
times to company. Yeah, yeah, we'll see how it rounds out.
I gotta take quicker worship break. Guys. When I come back,
we got some more for you. Guys, Hang tight and
I'll be right back.
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Now back to your host, Dave Polach.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back to the show. So here's another
thing I told you. There's a lot of different stuff
that was in the news. This was actually sending to
me from a listener that asked me if I saw the video So there's a video out there right this second that shows I guess I think they're in China, and it's showing them driving through like a torrential downpour rainstorm, and they're driving by cell phone. Now, if you ever
drove by cell phone, yeah, yeah, so it's interesting how this works. And then but it made sense to me,
why do they have like the camera on the outside of the car. No, they didn't, So let me let
me tell you. So, Okay, if you've ever been like
a really bad down downpour, you can you just either you can't push the water away from the windshiel quick enough because it just you know, or you can't there's so much rain it's hard to see through the rain right right they it was coming down so fast. They're
holding their cell phone up to the window and they're looking at the cell phone and driving by the cell phone.
Now you'd ask why. Some people probably could already figure
this out, but a lot of people didn't. And I
didn't even think about it until I read the article.
The technology in a phone uses the fact that it can change the polarizing effect of what seemed through its computer chips. It's able to adjust the light that's being
reflected off of the rain drops and then look right through the rain as if the rain's not there. And
I was like, okay, now this if the shutter speed and everything. So yeah, if this sounds but it was
on video, they weren't taking pictures, they were just watching video.
But if this sounds kind of familiar to you guys, this goes back to some of the smart technology windows that we were talking about before that they were developing. Now,
if you took that technology and ran that technology in a windshield, that's a I mean, honestly, that's a lot of technology to put in a big piece of glass.
But we've already said this has been okay. So then
what happened when it goes out? You just not see anything?
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying like, if it's like if you're using camera technology, because.
Speaker 2: If you would still see be able to see through the window normally. So the smart windows that I am
so the smart window is using. By my understanding, the
way that it works is if you guys haven't seen this, go look it up the smart windshield. That's when I
told you they can it's got a film I think that goes across the glass and then that film is the technology. So I was supposed to mimic what the window, right,
so it sees it. And the way that that works
is it's not like you're look it's not like it's a camera that you're looking at a camera on a big TV screen in your car. Right. So yeah, almost
like if you were if you were Tony Stark and you're looking through Iron Man mask and everything's projected onto the screen that you can see. That's what they want
to do with smart technology on windshields. And like I said,
I've explained to you guys before, if there's a deer out in the field and it's moving in the dark, it will literally put a box around it, almost like your cell phone does when it captures people's faces. It
will box things, and it'll tell you animal moving, and it'll show the moving in your direction, you know, if it's getting redy to muput in front of your car, all that kind of stuff. So now take that move
to the fact that you could put polarizing into the windshield and what it does. So the reason why you
can't see very well in the rain. I don't know
why I didn't know this, but I didn't. I'll be
the first one to I don't know everything. When rain
drops come down, the atmospheric light that shines into a reflects into rain drop, is reflect it and then makes it an object that you can't see past. Even though
it's clear. Interesting to me, obviously, it should be interesting
to you too. What the computer does on a cell
phone is it's able to adjust in milliseconds, adjust the light that's coming off a rain drop and polarize it so that you can actually see through it, so it raises.
So a good way to do this, guys, to kind of give you an idea how that works, because I went and tested it and I was like, okay, that makes a little of sense, and it's not polar but it's the same kind of technique. Go take your cell
phone and go look out your screen door, and you know, with your regular eyes, and you see the screen, hold your cell phone up, and your cell phone sees through the screen as if it's not there. And so that's
if you've never done that, it's pretty cool the way that that works. It's able to adjust everything so quickly
that it literally erases the fact that you're looking through a screen on a screen door. As if the screen
does just didn't exist.
Speaker 3: So think about that is on a subject where eyes are always aware.
Speaker 2: I think's right. I think that's what it is, so
you look right past it. So I tested that and
I was like, wow, I didn't I think I knew.
I've taken pictures out obviously out windows with screens on before, but I never really thought about the fact that, wow, it's it's going through that screen as if it's not there.
It's just never dawned on me. So it's just it's
interesting to be able to take that technology and move that technology into vehicles, and I hope we get there, but the fact that they were doing it with a cell phone is just, you know, kind of interesting.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: I read an article about a month ago about this girl if you want to Prize and her competition for setting up a projector in her car and using a camera on the outside of the car to see the blind spot between the pillars, the A pillars and the B pillars, and basically she projected what the camera was seen from the outside that laid perfectly basically we're kind of talking about over the A pillar, so basically you can see the traffic or anything that was blocking, and she won a price for that.
Speaker 2: It was very smart. Now interesting you say that because
I saw an article where someone's trying to inject that technology by twenty twenty seven in the new cars where it races the they're there, but when you're in the car to races a right. So basically, just I wonder
if it was her, it might be it did that like.
Speaker 4: Only when you were making a turn. If you put
your blinker on it, you want the whole time.
Speaker 2: You want to see your whole surrounding. And I agree
with you, like I turn the doors to see it through. Yeah,
it's technology is a great thing. You guys hear me
say it's it's a two edge, two plate sword for me, your two edged sword. How do you want to say
it for me? When it comes I like technology. I
don't like technology that is used against me. That's the difference. So,
and I think you have to have one without the other rights you can't a little bit bad. Yeah, there is,
but it is some of the stuff that they're coming out with, and they're and they're progressing forward on could help us in so many ways. I still think the
smart windshield is one of the most advanced new fresh ideas.
We've been talking about it, I think now for over two years from the first time I've seen it, and we still haven't seen it go into a car yet, but when it was introduced, and I still believe it is one of the most advancements into safe there.
Speaker 3: I mean you, I think so if you think about it, we you know, before we didn't really have touchscreen radios and now all the cars, but now every car has a touch screen radio, and then you know they're adding side buttons on you know, different trim levels, something for you on that too.
Speaker 2: So so somebody, somebody sent me a message in and asked me they were listening to the show when we were talking about uh, getting in trouble for using your cell phone in a car and stuff like that, and they're like, a touch screen in your in your car is just a big cell phone. It's the same thing
you could your's just you could be easily just distracted by messing with the things on that screen as you would if you were messing with it on your phone.
Speaker 3: Okay, but the argument, I guess is that you're focused on the car when you're touching the butts sted.
Speaker 2: Like I showed, I showed you that video. Remember you
out of had the argument and that showed you the video.
And it counts how long for somebody to look down at a big screen and then look back up and it's it's there's a lot of time before.
Speaker 3: Right, But like like we talked about before, you I can say you'd get distracted looking at your domin your speed you kill level.
Speaker 2: The big screen in your car definitely is distracting.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: I mean anything's distracting to a certain degree, right, I mean.
Speaker 2: It is it is your girlfriend you happened in the seat next to you is distracting, right right, can't I caught you off card with that one, but it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, like if you can't carry your kids around no more because they just won't shut up, right right?
Speaker 2: Well, I still believe that there's should be like a screen that goes up between the front of the cap and the back of the cat when the kids sturt and you just blog them off. The government probably disagree
with me, and they probably never let you have that, But I'm just saying that's one way to y'all going to get us canceled. You guys were the worst. You
You guys weren't the are we there yet? Because you
didn't use that term, but you might as well have just been saying that like when we used to we used.
Speaker 4: To reach over and quick on the radio and change all the channels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing. Like, one thing I can
say about my kids were is they liked a lot of the same music I did, so we never really had to argue too much about like the songs being played on the radio, thank goodness. And we still really
don't like when we're in the garage and working on a project or something like that, we're either on my playlist or on one of their playlists, and I don't ever every once in a while I can go get that song out I saw. For the most part, our
playlists are very similar, even with newer stuff, because I like new stuff too, but they like a lot of the older stuff like I do. I just I still
think that there's a way for us to move forward, but we need to. I'm worried about people being distracted
in cars. Maybe I worry about it more because I
live out in the country and country roads, and every time I'm on the road, I watched people like mess with their cellphone as they're going by me. It's two lane.
You can barely get cars by as it is. The
last thing I need you to do is not be looking up on the road. So maybe that's the reason
why it's eriges to me. I don't worried about that.
I worry the more technology movement with cars, they're more there is a V. I mean, that's what my word
like we were talking about. You know, you got to
move one step forward. I mean you gotta move two
steps backwards.
Speaker 3: Move the move one step forward, right, So you know, we all these touch screens in the car, but that leads to.
Speaker 2: It's like cameras, like is it two steps forward three steps back? I think I'm thinking one step forward?
Speaker 3: And so but anyways, you know, basically all have touch screens in the cars, and like you say, it could be distracted driving, but that's one step towards you know, the window ideas, and then you know, putting all that stuff in the windshield gets rid of all the touch screens and then you know you're actually looking all the information.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: I find it funny that so we, like I said, I think we're two years into talking about this and still haven't seen the cars, But people still send me information on like people remember that we talked about and they're like, hey, I saw this, And I think the reason why we probably haven't seen them in cars yet is either're not completely perfected. They're probably expensive. Two they're
trying to figure out how to hold the costs because I've always said, if you remember, if you use the comparison of cell phones and you use the comparison of flash screen TV. So the expense of those when they
first came out were so and now the cost has gotten down to what I call somewhat reasonable. I mean,
you can get a what sixty five inch TV for your house nowadays for five hundred bucks, when when they first came out they were five grand.
Speaker 3: I mean we can get it cheaper. It just kind
of depends like what quality you want, right yeah, yeah, But I don't.
Speaker 2: Think they're gonna have like a good better invest in windshields to be installed in stalled in your car. It's
gonna be this is just like you just wait, you you just wait.
Speaker 4: This windshield can take one rock to it. This one
can take one and a half rocks to it.
Speaker 2: You see the self preparing windshields. What okay, so when
you can take it off. Okay, there's a chemical now
that you can use looking like you know how you get a crack and then that chemical like when it cracks, I guess the liquid is kind of already there on the windshield and it just kind of gravitates to the crack and then feels it almost like what you do like when they fix your windshield. Somebody sent me a
video on it. I don't know where the video came
from because I tried. I couldn't find a research on it.
Basically like rainext or very No, it's else had like like the windshield doctor come out and fill the crack in your windshield, said, look up that technology. Guys. Somebody
sent me the video, but I, like I said, I couldn't find who was developing it. When I find out,
I'll let you guys know, I gotta take quicker rush of break again. God's going by fast, you guys, Hold Todd,
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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. Hey, So here's an interesting thing.
I think years ago I told you guys the story.
So I was on a plane going to the West Coast, and I sat next to a guy that was on the plane, and I think I told you guys about this if I did, and then you'll hear for the first time. His job was to paint Fords. That was
and that sounds like, oh okay, what forts Yes and no.
So do you remember the Mystic chrome. I think they
just called it mystic back then. Paint jobs they were
putting on, like the Cobras, the four Cobras, Mustangs and stuff. Yes,
it's an alternate color. Okay. His job was to fly
and paint just those cars. So if one of the
gotten an accident and it needed a paint job, he got on a plane and he flew to wherever the car was and then he painted the car. He had
the color. He had a color patent. So yeah, so
they Ford have that color under wraps, and from my understanding, they still do have that color under wraps to a certain degree. Now we've been able to mimic it a
little bit. I've seen variations of it, but it's never
been that exact what Ford does. Right, So, his job,
because they had the color under wraps, was to fly out and paint if a Cobra with that paint job was damaged. To go out and paint it, it was
like a full time job from He's like, all I'm doing is flying around the country painting. To imagine people's insurance.
Speaker 4: What did you hit a metallic What that is exactly how.
Speaker 2: I've imagined it all these years since I met that guy.
I'm like, so, you tell me you got to put a guy on a plane. You had to fly him
into whatever town, that car, whatever body shop that cars had, it's had a Ford obviously body shop. He's going, he's
got to stay in a hotel, all that kind of stuff, paint that car. The cost for all that, Now, here's
the thing. Back in the day, it was like a
twenty six hundred dollars add on for that paint color.
I'm sorry, twenty six hundred dollar add on does not cover the cost of the first like one time if probably flying that guy out, having to paint your card.
It doesn't even cover the cost to that insurance guding covers all that. So it's not a sailing like as
far as like the trickle down right, The insurance company was like, so the reason why that comes up into conversation is is apparently they're going back, so they're gonna do I think twenty twenty five and possibly twenty twenty six, or maybe they won't get to it until right there in that mix. They're gonna start putting that paint color
back on mustangs again, which is really cool. It looks
like to me it's that they did some updates to a little bit, because it looks a lot more vibrant than it used to. Still, if that's your thing, yeah, yeah,
I think to me it looks better that this these rendered.
Maybe it's just because the renderings are and I don't eve think I think I saw. I don't even think
it's rendering. I think it's a If it's a rendering,
it's a really good one. I think it's actually one
card's already been done like that, just to show it.
But they're gonna go back to it. Now. Here's the
crazy thing they add on now to tell you from what was that the last they did in two thousand and four, I think had that paint on it. So
two thousand and four all the way to now and now it's like sixty nine hundred dollars add on to have it paint it in that color. It's going to
take two years of paint it because one guy knows the color. But I think the first time we saw it.
I think the first time they did that paint job was ninety six. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but
I think ninety six was the first time that paint showed up on on a Cobra, and then I think they did it again another year and then two thousand and four. I believe it was on two thousand and
four Mileel too, so for them not to bring it back, Like I said, it's pretty hot color.
Speaker 5: It's cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know if my worry about doing something right is to a car is having like that cuss, like that cuss of painte if it would grow old on me as the owner like I did it, I'm like, this is cool, and then a year later I'm like, all right, I've had it. I don't really like you know, because,
as you guys know, I tell you story out there like white, I'm a classic white guy kind of like white.
I think you know that's not what I man. I'm
not a classic white guy. I'm a classic guy that
likes white cars. So it's it's one of those things
where I like the fact that I don't think white ever gets boring to me, Like because you can change, like you can change the action, just the wheel, all kinds of stuff dirty so quick, No, it does so.
Actually white hides dirt better than any other car. Yeah
the truck, you're like, my truck could be really dirty and it doesn't look nearly as dirty as it is until you wash it and go, wow, like look how really nice it looks. I like silver, so silver as
always trans am silver. I like silver, and it looks good.
My like I said, my problem with it is is when you do customizations and vehicles and the things that are hard to go back on. You always repaint your car,
but you know the price or whatever. And I'm not saying,
you know you'd have that car in that color and then decide two years late obviously you've ruined the value of it because of you know what it is. But
I'm just saying, like, all right, here's something I'm kind of meddling with. I was having this conversation the other
day with somebody when the bad AM's dumb. I want
to you know, I don't know if I the windows are clear, right, I thought about tinting the windows a little bit on the car. But some classics look good
with windows tenant and some look really horrible. And the
money that you pay to have a window tenant nowadays is not cheap. So if you have a good tint
job done, you're in the six hundred dollars arrange to have a nice tint job done. You know that's six
hundred dollars wasted. Now here's the thing. I like a
colored tint, so I've been toying with it. Be a
burgundy tint. That would be because our car has uh,
the ox blood red interior, and we have ox blood red and accents on the car. Having that red would
kind of set that car up. I'm gonna lie. I've
never been a big fan of color tent I either of its a very white minique burgundy color monique. What
is a monique? Unique? Nonique? Unique? Monique is a word.
I don't think it isnique. Do you mean like very little? No? Nope, nope.
Speaker 4: Well guess what, y'all? I just made it wor no
mean very little? It was a very little red I
could do.
Speaker 2: I saw, so I saw, I went, looked I had it, so I did, I went looked at silver cars with like the burgery red tint light tin on it and they look pretty hot. I think it probably looked really
looked really cool in our car, But once again, you have to spend six hundred dollars to go map that's not what I thought it would look like, and then you just scrap it. So that's that's that's the reason
why I think.
Speaker 3: I think you did like an eighties Sunglass vitue like you're talking about, you know, is.
Speaker 2: That's what this is, So it would be like it's like a red tint to it on a silver car.
I think it looked kind of hot in our car, but like I said, I had to spend the money kind and do it. That's the reason why it's I
always say it's very hard for me, like if I'm having a hard enough time, like make a decision on tint.
Imagine like when you paint your car color that you think is gonna look really good and then all a sudden you go, you're tired of it in six months, And that's that's I don't know, you guys told me what you guys think. I think the fact that the
paint color coming back, it's cool. I like the idea.
But there's some like I've seen like hits and misses with paint colors. Like there's a couple of cars out
there right to say, Okay, what do you think it's worth the sixty nine dollars up? Creasy? No, No, I
don't think a lot of money like, I don't. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can just find like a two grand extra, you know, for specialty, But sixty nine it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of a it's a little lucris. Yeah, it's a lot
of money. Like so there's there's a couple of cars
out there. That lime green color that's out there. I
think it looks good on certain cars. But once again,
when I see that color, I go with that. Would
that color grow old on me? If I had that
color on a car, Like, would I still be excited when I go in the garage in a year and I see my car that's lining green, and I'd be like, oh man, I still in love with this car, this color.
Where I go maybe lime green was Maybe I should just starting to well, you can. That's the good thing
about But raps aren't cheap really anymore. You like, no,
they're not. You have a good rap job. I think
I think somebody told me like thirty eight hundred bucks.
I mean, you're getting close to what if you if you, if you've got a friend who does paint, he's probably everybody's like, oh good, I know what good pain job costs.
Trust me, guys, I know what twenty thousand dollars paine job looks like on a car. I got one sitting
out in a grudge.
Speaker 3: But that's better than what comes out on the show showroom floor, though it is, it's a different like that's a that's a that's not apples apples.
Speaker 2: No, you're right, you're you're not rap. Is the quickest
way to make something look nice for a little money, right, right, as long as the body panels aren't gonna I'm talking about like a basic paint job too, Like you know, a good basic paint job nowadays five grand. Oh yeah,
I'm not saying really, but it's not twenty grand. It's
kind of what I was kind of going now. I
agree with you, like showroom quality, you're up there in the twenty right, but dealership quality even then, Even then, I I backed off of putting too much gloss on the transam, even though I probably could have put more clear to made it a lot more glossy, but I just didn't want the car to have that tacky like I go to some car shows and there's so much clear put on a car that it looks like it's wet all the time, and I just think that look, to me is just a little over the top. I don't,
I don't. I didn't want that look. Now, it looks
good on some cars. I've seen some of you guys'
cars looks good on I see a lot of cars that it doesn't. It's just it's overpowering, like you know,
you're there's so much gloss on it. Just I don't know,
you guys don't want to talk about you've seen them, and some of you guys, Man, the paint on this car is so fresh, looks so nice, And then I'm looking at it and going, yeah, but it's it's overkilled.
It's so glossy. It's overkilled. I want to see a
paint job that you can like see through, like it has depth to it. I think that's cleaner than something
that's just really good. So you're about the reflection. You're
not about the reflection. Uh, I don't like the gloss
the over glossiness. I'll show you what I'm talking about
some of the some of the pictures I had, Like there's some cars like just it's too much like it's just like it look looks like you put like a pound of baby oil on the car, you know what I mean. It's just so wet looking, and I just
think that takes away from the color of the paint more than anything else. Like my paint job has not
been uh we haven't wet, sanded or buffed it yet, okay, because I knew we had to do work on the car, and I wanted to save all that to the end.
But there's depth to the paint job on our car.
When you look at the paint, you can see it mine has been and there's depth to that metallic I think that's more classy looking than anything else, you know what I mean. I Like I said, once again, as
you guys know, and you're building cars, paint is the hardest thing to come up with, a the color, b all that kind of stuff. I'm glad that I didn't
really have to do that. I mean, I want to
stick with the normal color on our car. We just
use new technology versus old technology. When the car is
built in seventy seven. Paint has come so much further
that you can get a lot more depth into paint and people. And I know that you paint guys are
going to correct me, like, no, you can do it on anything. The technology you guys have to agree that's
changed in paint. It's easier to work with. You can
get a lot better look to something with a lot less color contrast. Yeah, right, Like if you take a
look at what the car used to be the same color as it is now, but what they did in the seventies and how it's painted now, there's definitely a big difference between when you look at the photo finish on it. So it's funny how that always always comes
around and goes into term and all that kind of stuff.
But just know that you have one of those things where it's one of those things where technology comes into and pain. But making the right decision.
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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back. So I told you guys, I
got a bunch of different stories that were sent to me and stuff like that. We talked about this a
little while back, and I don't know if it was this uh particular guy, But remember I told you people are doing like making themselves YouTube famous by the stuff that they do in cars, and they're videotapes themselves doing stupid stuff in their cars, and I put it on YouTube.
And I'm not talking about the channels out there that people build cool stuff and then they're abusing it. I'm
all for that. I'm talking about people are like racing
through the streets and videotape themselves being chased by police or doing other stupid stuff like I just understand rightless stuff.
So the Belltown hellcat, I'm sure if you guys are car people, you've seen these videos. I've seen them quite
a few different times. If you haven't, go take a look.
So this guy, I think I think this kid's twenty one years old and he is just he's got a lot of followers that follow him because that's just craziness attracts people. It just works. We know that. Well, they
can't do they don't want to want somebody else do.
They're like, well, I'm not gonna run from the police, but let me. I just saw the one over in
Norfolk that got sent to me. I think that's post
on YouTube too, and it's over at by Military Circle area and he runs. And then somebody else sent me
one where there's a hellcat. I think I think it's
a hell cat running through the tunnel in Hampton Real Chase. Yeah,
like he's there. They're up over one hundred miles an hour.
So this guy Belltown Hellcat the video. Not saying you
need to go check it out, but if you haven't seen what you don't know I'm talking about, you're curious, go look it out. Hit. They finally had enough, so
he's posted so much stuff that they literally summonsed him and he came to court. Now, I told you guys,
there was I think the guy. The last guy was
in Florida was they sentenced him to not be able to drive his car on public roads anymore. They basically
did the same thing to this guy. He's not allowed
to drive his Hellcat on public roads anymore, or you'll go to jail for however long time. But they also
hit him with eighty seven thousand dollars in fines. It's
a lot. It is a lot, But you're justified. I'm
not saying it's not justified. But here's my thought process
on that. Guys. If you got seven hundred and seventy
thousand followers, right and you're getting tons of clicks to day, you were generate money on YouTube because that's the way that works, right, He's just gonna park. You've sentenced him
not to drive his Hellcat. He's just gonna park. The hellcat,
go buy something else and continue well on with a different car, because all you told was he couldn't drive his hellcat.
Speaker 4: Well that's what he said too, So in the police report, he was like the officer was like, why don't you just take it to a track, And he was like, I make money off of this. He's like, do you
see how many followers I have and apparently showed the officer like his Instagram page with over seven hundred thousand followers.
He was like, I'm making money money off this. I'm
going to make a career out of this.
Speaker 2: He's like, until you hurt somebody or whatever it may be.
I mean, I'm not wishing bad ill, but I mean I want the public.
Speaker 4: But I understand where he's coming from. It's not right,
but I understand where he's coming from. Where we're not
helping because we're liking it. Like you know, I'm talking
about I'm talking about my video. I'm not talking about
like us directly, I'm talking about people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not helping.
Speaker 4: Because he like he said, he has seven hundred thousand followers, so people are following them doing direct live guys.
Speaker 2: I mean really like it's like out there everybody played g video game. You know you played it because all
the crazy stuff that you could do and have the police chase you right in the video game. This guy
is doing it like for really, you know what I mean.
So like with that being the case, I mean, I get it. I'm not saying it's right. I understand it,
and I get it why people watch it's It's no different than when you come up to a bad accident on the freeway and everybody turns to look. You might
you might realize that there's bodies strung everywhere, but you still look like you're but not you can't help, but not look. It's just it's one of those things. I
don't know. I'll see how this how this plays out,
but I have a feeling that's exactly what he's going to do. He'll park that car and you just go
get something else and until they tell me you can't drive, well, the next time, it's just gonna be worse. Though maybe
maybe I don't know what the answer for this is.
I understand that people are trying to become YouTube famous, and they have and this is working for people. I'm
gonna say it's not working. They bite the work, right,
but rollerblade, like I don't know, like the roller blade, Yeah, I just I don't know what the answer is to it, how to stop it or some of these. I'm sure
people are gonna tell me, we don't want to stop.
We like watching that stuff. Okay, whatever. But here's what
I always say. It's great until it's not until it
it hits somebody that you know or whatever, and then it won't be so anymore.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I mean not to say that's what you want to happen, but it is what it is.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's fun, but there's always a time and place for it. Right, It's so fun, but time and place, time, place.
Speaker 2: Here's here's something on a whole other aspect of things.
So drifting is huge. We know, you know we went
to Vegas. We saw the drift event there. Everybody loves
drifting and stuff. If you guys seen the AI drift cars.
I was showing Nathaniel during UH during the commercial break.
So if you guys, Toyota, so somebody else invented it.
I think Stafford University UH designed a system that would do it, and then Toyota decided one up it and now they have it. If you haven't seen it. Basically,
it's a push button into your car that you can hit in your car, and your car could we'll be able to drift itself around the track on its own, like if you were sitting in as nathanis. It's like
sitting in an our C car and something. Do you
know how how you do it? Though? You have to
go around the track and it simulates the track. I
don't go around or not.
Speaker 3: Or if you can just or is it just a locked angle and it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not locked angle because it goes around the track and goes through the left hands that.
Speaker 3: Imagine it's either mapped or you know, they went around and they mapped itself.
Speaker 2: Maybe the technology is quick enough now that it can actually adapt on the fly, because you think about it, Tesla adapts on the fly by I'll just around you right, So it would almost be like that. It's just like
you know, it has to know what's going to come up ahead itself quick enough. I think it takes out.
I think technology is quick enough that a milliseconds it can see the road in front of it and then just make the adjustment moves it needs to. Because I
think we've gotten that fast in technology somebody's going to but it's it's I don't I don't know that definitely need to have a feature like that in a car.
I mean, I just don't know, you know, But I could see how somebody wanted to, you know, play around, you could hit it, and then of course you do you want to see if it could be done. It's what it
was really designed for. The way they does a hold
on the way they designed this originally was designed for a crash avoidance and stuff like that, and they realized it was so good at crash avoidance that it could actually drift around the track.
Speaker 4: Really, just like you mentioned in the beginning of the segment when you said that it was Stanford that made it right, and then it was Toyota is Racing Institute that is taking a look into it. Did you know
the first car is Toyota's car, the second car the chase car, the Stanford's car. Yes, so they have they
have Stanford car is the is chasing the Toyota car.
But they're built off of each other, off of Wi Fi sending each other real time information on one thing.
Speaker 2: And that's so that's kind of interesting because that was the last thing that we saw on Crash avoidance is cars talking to each other and that's how they keep from crashing into each other. So that makes kind so
one step at a time it is. I mean, I'm
all for like advanced crash technology, the fact that a car all of a sudden can think quicker than you can react and it can keep you from getting a crash.
I'm all about it, Like I've just I think that's one of the best things we'll probably ever earnedvent. Here's
the last thing, because we're getting close to the end of the show. There was a time if we were
laughing about this. So when you took your car to
an autobarage back in the day, right, we always see the strange things that you guys would have in your car.
Just people leave things. I guess they just don't think,
or maybe they just don't care. I don't know what
it is. And I've seen some really strange things left
in cars. But one of the biggest things as a
technician we used to deal with back in the day was people leaven drugs and cars. Like you wouldn't think
you would leave it laying out, but people did all the time. And I got to laughing about it because
I was just like, well, I can see how some of it because people used to smoke weed and they have roaches, and they throw the roach in the ashtray, the good old roach in the ashtray thing, and then they'd forget they had a bunch of them in the ashtray, and they get pulled over and then they quite a bit. Yeah,
they got quite a bit and they catch a charge.
So that was happening. So I can remember back in
the day, like we'd be getting people's cars and there was always roaches and ashtrays. The change in automotive for
us now is so crazy because now with marijuana being legal in a lot of different states, people just leave it in their car like they just and we're not talking about a little bit, Like they don't even care.
They're not trying to like hide it. Now I've seen
I told you guys, I've told her. I have found
cocaine in cars, like underneath the seat, like when you're trying to like work on a car. I don't know
how you've I mean, I understand it's pretty expensive. I
don't know how you leave it underneath the seat and forget it's there, or how you dropped and forgot that's where you dropped it. But I had that happen so
many times. I had weeding cars so many times. But
for the fact that now things have changed and people are just like, you know, leaving out sitting in the you know, cup holder, you know what I mean, Like it's nothing right next to you know, It's just it's weird.
How maybe I don't know what it is. I just
think it's weird talking without AUTI garages like man, like every time they come in, like there's just you know, people leave zanti bars, laying in the cup holder, you know, and stuff like that. I'm like, I'm like, really, like
it's gotten. They're like it's just that open now. Like
back back, I just thought it was forgetfulness. Now, the
fact that the stories people tell me, I'm just like they just don't care, like they're just they just leave it like whatever. You know what I mean, Like it's
just there isn't that It's not just a weird crossover.
I mean like just times have changed. Times can they
changed that much? Though? Like I used to always hate
opening up like someone's glove of department. I've had to
go in and get looked for, Like the wheelock key or something like that. I was just scared to, like
not scared about, like on the bad side of a fine you know, right. I just didn't never want to
open it. And I, like I said, I've seen some
strange things, strange things that some people should have seen, weird pictures, you name it. I've seen things in cars
and I'm like, I cannot believe you left this in your car for someone to find. So I don't know,
you guys, tell me what do you think about the crossovers.
I thought it was funny when I got in that conversation this week where somebody was like, you should see some of the things there now that we come across.
So I don't know. What's some weird things you guys have. Finally,
you guys let me know. And then no, guys, guy,
go ahead and get out of here. I cannot believe
at the end of the show already, hey, do not forget.
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Remember it's Saturday. Sunday's right around the corner. Spend time
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