Rivian Built an E-Bike?! 100-Mile Range & No Chain (Also TM-B First Ride)
About this episode
Rivian spin-off also introduces the TMB (Transcendent Mobility Bicycle) at Rivian’s Venice hub, pitching an “automotive-grade” e-bike experience built around pedal-by-wire and a series-hybrid drive (no chain, belt to a motor). Guests ride it and praise how natural it feels—especially uphill—plus quick, intuitive acceleration. The team details the battery (R1 cell type, ~800 Wh for up to 100 miles), modular “top frame” swapping, built-in security, optional subscription for anti-theft alerts, and safety features like biomotion lighting and regen/mechanical braking. A future TMQ quad is teased for last-mile logistics.
MotorTrend’s The InEVitable goes hands-on with one of the most interesting e-bikes ever built — the ALSO. TM-B (Transcendent Mobility Bicycle), born from Rivian’s skunkworks. We talk with ALSO's Director of Product Line, Saul Leiken about what makes this bike unique. This isn’t your typical e-bike. With pedal-by-wire tech, no chain, regenerative braking, and automotive-grade battery tech, the TMB blurs the line between bicycle and EV.
final mile
"our podcast about the future of cars, the future of mobility, the future of transportation, the future of the final mile."
The “final mile” is the last part of a trip—getting to the exact place you need to go. It’s important because that short distance is where delivery and local travel tools really have to be practical.
“Final mile” refers to the last leg of transportation—typically the short distance from a depot or transit point to where a person or package actually needs to go. It’s a key area for new mobility solutions because it demands convenience, efficiency, and easy maneuvering.
Rivian Hub in Venice, California
"We are here at the Rivian Hub in Venice, California with a product called Also, and Ed's going to tell you a little bit about it."
They’re recording at Rivian’s place in Venice, California. It’s basically the backdrop for the product introduction.
This is the physical setting for the product reveal/first look. Listeners can treat it as a segment marker for the “we’re at the venue, here’s what’s being shown” portion of the episode.
Also
"we are going to have the head of product for Also, that's the manufacturer. Come on and give us a walk around, and then we are going to go for a ride."
Also is the company that makes the e-bike they’re going to ride. The hosts say it started from Rivian, so it’s connected to the EV maker.
Also is described as the manufacturer of the e-bike the hosts are about to ride. The segment frames Also as a company spun out of Rivian, which helps explain why their e-bike tech and design may share resources or engineering DNA with Rivian.
Stunk Works project
"Absolutely. Also was born from Rivian a little over a year ago. We started as kind of a Stunk Works project"
A “Skunk Works” project is like a small team working on a risky idea. It’s meant to move fast and try something new before it becomes a real product.
A “Skunk Works” project is a small, highly focused team working on experimental or breakthrough products, often with more freedom than a typical corporate program. The host’s wording suggests Also began as an experimental effort before becoming a more formal company.
TMB
"And we decided to start with an electric bike. This is the TMB, or the Transcendent Mobility Bicycle."
The TMB is Rivian’s electric bike. The big claim is that it’s built more like a car than a typical bicycle—focused on the overall experience and durability.
The TMB, or Transcendent Mobility Bicycle, is Rivian’s electric bicycle concept built with an automotive mindset. The key idea is that it’s designed like a vehicle first, with bike-like recreation as the secondary goal.
vehicle first, recreational device second
"that was really designed as a vehicle first and a really awesome recreational device second."
They’re saying the bike is designed to be a real way to get around, not just something for fun. That usually means it’s built sturdier and more thoughtfully engineered.
This phrase describes a design philosophy: treat the bicycle as a real mobility product (with durability, systems integration, and user experience) rather than just a recreational gadget. It implies higher-grade components and engineering choices borrowed from automotive design.
portal display
"The experience you get on here for everything from our portal display, which is very similar to having like a heads up infotainment screen in your Rivian."
The portal display is basically a screen you look at while riding. They’re comparing it to the kind of screen experience you get in a Rivian car.
A “portal display” is a dashboard-style screen interface, positioned to be easy to see while riding. Here, the hosts compare it to a heads-up infotainment screen in a Rivian vehicle, emphasizing that the bike uses automotive-grade UI and hardware.
heads up infotainment screen
"from our portal display, which is very similar to having like a heads up infotainment screen in your Rivian."
It’s a screen that’s meant to be easier to see without taking your eyes off the road. The goal is to make information feel more “in your line of sight.”
A heads-up infotainment screen is a display designed to keep your attention forward while still providing information. In cars, this often means the screen is positioned and designed for quick glance readability, reducing the need to look down.
vehicle grade
"That is vehicle grade. The durability of this is vehicle grade."
“Vehicle grade” means the parts are built to last like they would in a car, not like cheap bike accessories. It’s about sturdiness and reliability over time.
“Vehicle grade” implies components built to automotive standards for durability, temperature range, vibration resistance, and long-term reliability. The speaker uses it to contrast this bike’s electronics and materials with typical consumer bicycle hardware.
dream ride propulsion system
"And of course, our dream ride propulsion system and the battery that powers it are also all automotive grade."
The propulsion system is the electric power that makes the bike move. They’re saying it’s designed to feel great to ride, not just to “work.”
A propulsion system is the electric drive hardware that provides motion—typically including the motor and its control electronics. Calling it a “dream ride” system suggests Rivian is positioning the bike’s powertrain as a core part of the riding experience, not just an add-on motor.
battery that powers it
"our dream ride propulsion system and the battery that powers it are also all automotive grade."
The battery is what stores the electricity for the motor. They’re implying it’s built to car-like standards so it should be safer and last longer.
The battery is the energy storage that powers the electric drive, and in an automotive-grade context it implies attention to safety, thermal management, and durability. The speaker ties it to “automotive grade,” suggesting higher engineering standards than many consumer e-bikes.
front suspension
"If you squint, you can sort of see a mountain bike, right? Cause you can see a front suspension."
Front suspension is the part of a bike that helps soak up bumps in the front wheel. It can make the ride smoother and help the tires stay in contact with the ground.
Front suspension is the suspension system on the front wheel that absorbs bumps and helps maintain tire contact with the road/trail. On bikes, good suspension can improve comfort and traction without necessarily making the ride feel slow.
rear suspension
"You can see a front suspension. You can see a rear suspension."
Rear suspension is the bike’s back shock/absorber. It helps smooth out bumps so the back wheel doesn’t bounce as much.
Rear suspension is the suspension system on the back wheel that absorbs impacts and helps keep traction. In this segment, the hosts argue that suspension doesn’t have to mean a slower, mushier ride—if it’s tuned well, it can still feel quick.
series hybrid
"thanks to DreamRide's series hybrid pedal by wire system"
In a series hybrid, your pedaling mainly helps generate electricity, and a motor uses that electricity to move the bike. That can make the assist feel more consistent and “tuned” to your effort.
A series hybrid means the pedals drive a generator (or power source), and an electric motor provides propulsion—rather than the drivetrain mechanically sending power directly to the wheels. This architecture can let the system optimize how it converts pedaling into electric power for smoother, controllable assist.
pedal by wire
"So it's pedal by wire? [250.4s] It's pedal by wire, which means that instead of having a mechanical connection, right, most bikes have a chain that connects somewhere around here with the rear wheel."
“Pedal by wire” means when you push the pedals, it doesn’t directly turn the rear wheel with a chain. Sensors read what you’re doing and send signals to a motor that moves the bike. It also lets the bike manage power more flexibly.
“Pedal by wire” means the pedals aren’t mechanically linked to the rear wheel. Instead, your pedaling is sensed and translated into electrical commands that control a motor driving the wheel. This is similar in concept to drive-by-wire systems in cars, but applied to bicycle pedaling.
no chain
"Well, as you can see on the TMB, there is no chain [262.0s] and the belt that does drive the rear wheel is not connected directly to the pedals."
“No chain” means the bike isn’t using the usual chain that connects the pedals to the back wheel. Instead, it uses a different way to transmit power to the rear wheel. That can change maintenance and how the bike is built.
“No chain” indicates the bike’s rear-wheel drive doesn’t use a traditional chain-and-sprocket connection. The transcript also contrasts this with a belt-driven rear wheel, which reduces some maintenance and packaging constraints. It’s an important design choice because it changes how power is transmitted and how the drivetrain can be packaged.
belt drive
"Well, as you can see on the TMB, there is no chain [262.0s] and the belt that does drive the rear wheel is not connected directly to the pedals."
A belt drive uses a belt to move power to the rear wheel instead of a chain. Belts are usually quieter and don’t need oil like chains do. In this bike, the belt is powered by a motor, not directly by your pedaling.
A “belt drive” uses a toothed or friction belt to transmit power to the rear wheel instead of a metal chain. Belts are often quieter and can require less lubrication, but they still need correct tension and can wear depending on alignment and conditions. In this design, the belt is driven by a motor rather than directly by the pedals.
drive motor
"[266.7s] It's connected to a motor up here. [269.2s] And what you're pedaling is actually a generator. [273.0s] It sends an electrical signal first to this motor up here to tell that motor how to behave and how to spin that rear wheel."
The drive motor is the electric motor that turns the rear wheel. It receives signals based on how you’re pedaling, then it decides how fast to spin the wheel. So your pedaling tells the motor what to do.
The “drive motor” is the electric motor that actually spins the rear wheel in response to the pedal-by-wire signals. The transcript explains that the generator sends electrical signals to the motor so it can control how the wheel spins. This is the core of the bike’s electric propulsion control loop.
generator
"And what you're pedaling is actually a generator. [271.4s] And that generator has two jobs. [273.0s] It sends an electrical signal first to this motor up here to tell that motor how to behave and how to spin that rear wheel."
A generator turns your pedaling into electricity. Instead of using a chain to spin the wheel, the bike uses that electricity to run the motor. It can also store some of that energy in the battery.
Here, the “generator” is the device that converts your pedaling motion into electrical energy. That electricity is then used to control the drive motor and to recharge the battery. This is the key bridge between human effort and electric propulsion in the described system.
traction motor
"And then what we call the traction motor up here is motor number three."
An electric traction motor is the part that makes the bike move. It uses electricity to spin the wheel and help you go faster or up hills.
A traction motor is the electric motor that actually provides driving force to move the vehicle. In an e-bike, it’s what turns electrical energy into wheel torque for acceleration and climbing.
Rivian R1
"This battery here contains the very same cell type that is in the R1 just to my left."
Rivian’s R1 is one of their electric vehicles. They’re saying the e-bike uses the same kind of battery cells as the R1, so it’s not a random, one-off battery design.
The Rivian R1 is Rivian’s electric vehicle platform referenced here as a benchmark for battery cell technology. The hosts are saying the e-bike battery uses the same type of cells as the Rivian R1, which can matter for performance consistency and manufacturing scale.
battery cell type
"This battery here contains the very same cell type that is in the R1 just to my left."
A battery is made of smaller units called cells. “Cell type” means the specific kind of battery chemistry/design, and using the same type can make the battery cheaper and more predictable.
“Cell type” refers to the specific chemistry and design of the individual battery units inside a pack. Using the same cell type across products can improve cost, supply, and expected performance characteristics.
cost benefit
"One is that we get to benefit from everything that Rivian does with those cells. One of that of course is a cost benefit."
Cost benefit means the battery can be cheaper because they’re buying/using a lot of the same parts. Making more of the same cells usually reduces the price.
A “cost benefit” here is about economies of scale—buying and producing large volumes of battery cells lowers per-unit cost. The hosts connect that to Rivian’s ability to leverage its cell supply across multiple products.
cells
"There's famous for 7,777 cells. This battery has about 40 cells in it."
Cells are the building blocks inside a battery. More cells usually means more total energy capacity, but the exact number depends on what the device needs.
Battery “cells” are the individual electrochemical units that are packaged together to form a complete battery pack. The discussion contrasts the large number of cells in the Rivian R1 with the smaller count in the e-bike pack to illustrate how pack design scales with application.
economies of scale
"So you can just get a sense of the economies of scale there and how when we can benefit from that purchase we can come with a much more cost competitive battery than anyone on the market."
Economies of scale is when making more of something makes each one cheaper. For batteries, buying and producing in bigger quantities can lower the cost per battery.
Economies of scale means spreading fixed costs (like manufacturing setup and supply contracts) over a larger number of units. In EV batteries, larger orders can reduce per-unit costs and improve pricing.
battery cell utilization / getting more out of each cell
"Rivian cells actually get more out of each cell than that same cell put into another car... you can get more voltage on a given cell... operate that cell at a higher or lower temperature... and still preserve the warranty."
They’re talking about how you can squeeze more useful performance out of the same battery cells. The key is doing it in a controlled way so the battery still lasts long enough to meet the warranty.
The hosts are describing how a battery maker can extract more usable performance from the same type of cell by tuning how it’s used in the pack. That can include operating voltage and temperature ranges while still meeting warranty expectations.
voltage
"you can get more voltage on a given cell..."
Voltage is basically how strong the battery’s electrical “push” is. They’re saying Rivian can set things up so the battery can deliver more power without harming it too quickly.
Voltage is the electrical potential the battery cell provides to the system. The segment suggests Rivian can run cells at different voltage levels to increase usable output while managing heat and degradation.
temperature
"you can operate that cell at a higher or lower temperature... and still preserve the warranty."
Battery temperature matters because heat can wear batteries out faster. They’re saying Rivian can manage temperature so the battery still meets warranty expectations.
Battery temperature strongly affects how fast cells age and how safely they can operate. The hosts mention operating at higher or lower temperatures while still preserving warranty coverage, implying thermal management and conservative limits.
warranty
"different things like that and still preserve the warranty, that's the important part."
A warranty is the guarantee that if something fails or degrades too much, the company will cover it. They’re saying Rivian can push the battery harder as long as it still stays within what the warranty allows.
A battery warranty is the manufacturer’s promise about expected performance and failure coverage over time or mileage. Here, the important point is that higher performance/usage is only acceptable if it doesn’t increase degradation beyond what the warranty allows.
e-bike battery energy vs range tradeoff
"...for the same watt hours... you get more range and more performance out of our battery than you would of an equivalently sized battery from another company."
It’s not only about how big the battery is. Two batteries with the same energy can still go different distances if one delivers power more efficiently.
The hosts explain that for the same battery energy (watt-hours), a more efficient battery system can deliver more usable range and performance. This is about how effectively the battery’s energy is converted into motor power, not just raw capacity.
watt hours
"...which is how you measure e-bike batteries instead of kilowatt hours, like you measure a car, for the same watt hours you get more range..."
Watt-hours tell you how much energy is stored in the battery. More watt-hours usually means you can ride farther, assuming the bike uses power at a similar rate.
Watt-hours (Wh) is an energy rating for batteries. For e-bikes, it’s commonly used to estimate how much total energy the battery can deliver to the motor over time, which strongly affects range.
100 miles of range
"Let's just do a quick rundown of the specs... It's a hundred miles of range out of this battery... this battery is about 800 watt hours..."
Range is how far the e-bike can go before the battery runs out. It depends on battery size and how much power the motor needs, so real-world results can vary.
“Range” is the estimated distance the e-bike can travel on a full battery charge under certain conditions. The episode ties the claimed 100-mile range to the battery’s energy capacity (about 800 watt-hours) and how efficiently it delivers power.
motor assist
"Top speed of motor assist is 28 miles an hour, but if you're really strong, you can pedal past that."
Motor assist is the electric help the bike gives you while you pedal. It usually stops helping at a certain speed, but you can still keep pedaling faster under your own power.
Motor assist refers to how an e-bike’s electric motor helps the rider, typically up to a legal or programmed speed limit. In this segment, the bike’s assist tops out at 28 mph, but the rider can still pedal faster.
28 miles an hour
"Top speed of motor assist is 28 miles an hour, but if you're really strong, you can pedal past that."
28 mph is the maximum speed at which the bike’s motor assist provides power in this configuration. It’s a key spec because it affects how quickly you can travel while still relying on electric assistance.
80 pounds
"...how much does the bike weigh? This configuration of it weighs just about 80 pounds. Okay. But crucially, you can actually drop a lot of weight off it very easily."
Bike weight matters for handling, acceleration, and especially for carrying or lifting the bike. The segment also notes that the weight can be reduced by removing components, which can make the bike more practical day-to-day.
power bank
"It's actually a power bank. It's USB-C. Take it on the plane?"
A power bank is basically a battery you can use to charge your phone. Here, the e-bike’s battery can also power your phone through a USB connection.
A power bank is a portable battery pack that can charge other devices. In this context, the e-bike’s battery can also act like a USB-C charger for a phone, which is handy for travel.
USB-C
"It's actually a power bank. It's USB-C. Take it on the plane?"
USB-C is the common plug shape used for charging phones and other gadgets. They’re saying the bike has USB-C ports built in so you can charge your phone easily.
USB-C is a modern charging/data connector used by many phones and accessories. The hosts are pointing out that the e-bike battery includes USB-C ports so you can charge devices directly without extra adapters.
top frame
"So also so innovative, we invented a whole new bike part. This is called the top frame. Most bikes, in fact, every other bike on the market"
The top frame is part of the bike’s main structure near the top. They’re saying they designed a new frame piece to fit the e-bike’s battery and make the bike work better.
A “top frame” is a structural design element of the bicycle frame, and here it’s described as a new, proprietary part. The idea is that Rivian’s e-bike packaging and battery integration may require a different frame geometry than conventional bikes.
seat tube
"[494.8s] This piece is typically known as the seat tube. [497.4s] This is known as the seat post."
The seat tube is the part of a bike frame that sets where the seat goes. Your seat post slides into it so you can adjust how high you sit.
On a bicycle frame, the seat tube is the angled tube that holds the seat height. It’s where the seat post slides in and is a key part of how the bike’s geometry fits you.
seat post
"[497.4s] This is known as the seat post. [498.8s] These are usually welded in part of a frame, right?"
The seat post is the part that lets you move the seat up or down. It helps you get comfortable and reach the pedals correctly.
The seat post is the adjustable post that raises or lowers the saddle. On many frames it’s inserted into the seat tube, and the fit affects comfort and pedaling position.
DreamRaw
"[520.9s] So the parts of DreamRaw and the battery, [522.8s] we were just talking about, they're all down here. [524.9s] That is what's part of what we call our skateboard."
DreamRaw sounds like the name of their e-bike platform or frame design. They’re talking about it in the same breath as the battery and the low-mounted layout.
DreamRaw appears to be the product/platform name they’re using for the e-bike’s frame/architecture. It’s mentioned alongside the battery and “skateboard” layout, suggesting it’s part of how the bike is built.
skateboard
"[520.9s] So the parts of DreamRaw and the battery, [522.8s] we were just talking about, they're all down here. [524.9s] That is what's part of what we call our skateboard."
They’re calling the battery/electronics area a “skateboard” because it’s built like a flat platform low in the bike. That can help the bike feel balanced and easier to ride.
In e-bike design, a “skateboard” layout usually means the battery and key electronics are packaged low and flat in the frame area, similar to a skateboard deck. This can improve weight distribution and make the bike feel more stable.
throttle
"And another for a rider who's maybe a little more moto oriented, is not as excited about pedaling, wants to use our throttle."
On an e-bike, the throttle is like a power switch you control with your hand. It tells the motor how hard to push, so you don’t have to pedal as much.
A throttle is the control that tells the electric motor how much power to deliver. On an e-bike, it lets you move without pedaling as much (or at all, depending on the bike’s design and local rules).
banana seat
"Got a good banana seat. Exactly right."
A banana seat is the long, curved seat shape you might see on classic-style bikes. It’s usually more comfortable for sitting in one position.
A banana seat is a long, curved bicycle seat commonly associated with vintage-style bikes. On an e-bike, it’s often chosen for comfort and a more “moto-inspired” riding posture.
drop it right on like a ski boot
"you can just drop it right on like a ski boot, drop it in."
This describes a quick-mount or snap-in attachment method for the bike’s top frame/seat module. The “ski boot” comparison suggests a secure, easy-to-engage connection that can be removed and reinstalled quickly.
rear light
"You also saw I got some power back here. This is a rear light."
A rear light is the light at the back of the bike so other people can see you. It can also include extra signaling like turn indicators.
A rear light is the bike’s visibility and safety lighting at the back, typically including a brake light or running light function. The segment also mentions turn signals, implying the rear lighting is part of a more complete signaling system.
turn signals
"Also features turn signals actually I should show on this side."
Turn signals are the lights that blink when you’re turning. They help cars and pedestrians know where you’re going.
Turn signals are electronic indicators that communicate your intended direction to other road users. On e-bikes, they’re often integrated into the rear lighting and may be controlled from the handlebars.
sense pins
"And all these top frames have sense pins in them."
“Sense pins” sound like little connectors that tell the bike when a part is attached correctly. That helps the bike work safely and reliably after you swap modules.
“Sense pins” likely refer to electrical contacts or sensors used to detect when a frame module is properly installed. This would let the bike power up or enable functions only when the attachment is secure.
key-based personalization
"[603.2s] So just like you and your partner [605.0s] might have two different keys to your Rivian [606.7s] and your seat will auto adjust for you when you get in. [614.3s] And when you drop this on, [616.2s] all of your settings will preload onto the key."
Key-based personalization means the car remembers your preferences and loads them when it recognizes your key. So you don’t have to adjust everything every time you drive.
Key-based personalization is when a vehicle stores driver preferences (seat position, ride mode, and other settings) and automatically loads them based on which key fob is detected. This reduces manual setup and helps multiple drivers share the same vehicle comfortably.
auto adjust
"[605.0s] might have two different keys to your Rivian [606.7s] and your seat will auto adjust for you when you get in. [611.1s] The seat won't quite auto adjust"
Auto adjust means the car moves your seat (and sometimes other controls) to your saved position. It uses your key/profile so it knows who you are.
“Auto adjust” refers to power seat and/or steering adjustments that move to a saved position when the car recognizes the driver. In this segment, the seat won’t fully adjust, but it will leave you at the position you’ve chosen, and settings are tied to your key.
ride mode
"[621.8s] So if you have a ride mode you prefer [623.3s] or something like that, [624.2s] it'll automatically go into that."
A ride mode is a setting that changes how the car drives. If you like a certain feel, the car can remember it and switch to that mode when you get in.
A “ride mode” is a selectable driving profile that changes how the vehicle behaves—often including throttle response, steering feel, and sometimes traction/regen behavior. The key point here is that the ride mode you prefer can be saved to your profile and recalled automatically.
haptic feedback
"[670.8s] I like the fact that there's gears, [672.8s] but I'm saying the putting in the haptic feedback, [674.8s] I don't think you actually need that."
Haptic feedback is a kind of “feel it in your hand” notification, usually through vibration. It can confirm actions like shifting or changing modes so you don’t have to look as much.
Haptic feedback is touch-based feedback (like vibrations or force cues) that helps you feel what the bike or interface is doing. On vehicles and e-bikes, it’s often used to confirm inputs such as gear changes or assist modes without relying only on visuals.
electric motorcycle (no pedals)
"I have one that's like more of a motorcycle that doesn't have pedals. That was the cake bike? Yeah. It doesn't have any pedals."
They’re describing an electric two-wheeler that doesn’t have pedals, so it rides more like a scooter or motorcycle. That usually changes how it’s regulated and how you control it.
A motorcycle-like electric vehicle without pedals is typically treated differently than a pedal-assist e-bike, both legally and in how the power is delivered. The host’s “no pedals” description signals a throttle/ride feel closer to a scooter or motorcycle than a bicycle.
Rad Power
"Like a Rad Power? Sauron, I think it's pronounced. Electric?"
Rad Power is a company that makes electric bikes you pedal, but the motor helps you. It’s a common brand people buy for commuting.
Rad Power is a well-known e-bike brand that sells pedal-assist electric bicycles aimed at commuting and everyday riding. Mentioning it helps listeners anchor the conversation around mainstream consumer e-bikes.
Sauron
"Like a Rad Power? Sauron, I think it's pronounced. Electric?"
They’re talking about another electric bike brand besides Rad Power. The exact brand name is a bit unclear in the transcript, but it’s part of their “which e-bikes have you tried?” list.
Sauron appears to be another e-bike brand referenced in the discussion. The hosts are unsure about pronunciation, but the key point is that they’re comparing different electric bike makers.
pedals are connected to the wheel
"But there were, but again, like, it's always explained at the beginning, like they are, the pedals are connected to the wheel."
They’re saying when you pedal, the bike responds in a way that feels directly tied to your pedaling. That matters because it can make the ride feel smoother and more predictable than bikes that mostly use a throttle.
This describes a direct pedal-to-wheel drive feel, where pedaling input is mechanically or electronically translated into wheel motion. It’s a key difference from e-bikes that rely on a separate throttle-only experience, because it affects how “natural” the bike feels when you’re pedaling.
e-bike assist maintaining speed on hills
"And all of a sudden, like you're on uphill, but your cadence of pedaling doesn't change, but your speed doesn't go down."
On a hill, a normal bike usually slows down unless you pedal harder. With an e-bike, the motor can add extra help so you can keep your effort and still keep your speed up.
The speaker is describing how an e-bike’s motor assist can compensate for increased gravity load on an incline. When assist ramps up as needed, you can keep a steady pedaling cadence while maintaining speed, which feels different from a non-assisted bike where speed typically drops unless you pedal harder.
cadence of pedaling
"And all of a sudden, like you're on uphill, but your cadence of pedaling doesn't change, but your speed doesn't go down."
Cadence just means how quickly you’re turning the pedals. They’re saying that even when the hill gets harder, they don’t have to pedal faster to keep going at the same speed.
Cadence is how fast you pedal (typically measured in revolutions per minute). The speaker notes that on an uphill, their cadence stays the same while speed doesn’t drop, implying the bike is maintaining assist effectively as load increases.
automatic gears
"when he was explaining, you do this, you do this, and if pedal speed, automatic gears, I was like, I'm just, what a nightmare. Jump on it just works."
Automatic gears shift for you. Instead of you deciding when to change gears, the bike tries to pick the right one so you don’t have to think about it.
Automatic gears on an e-bike mean the drivetrain shifts without the rider manually selecting gears. In practice, the system uses sensors (like speed, pedaling effort, and cadence) to choose the right gear ratio so the bike stays in its efficient range.
Switch
"I also tried to convert a bike to electric using, I think the company's called Switch, and it had a front wheel hub motor and a battery, and it was terrible."
Switch is mentioned as the company behind an electric conversion kit. The idea is you add a motor and battery to a regular bike so it can assist you like an e-bike.
Switch is referenced as a company that makes an electric bike conversion system. In this segment, it’s described as using a front hub motor and a battery, which is a common approach for DIY e-bike upgrades.
electric bike conversion
"I also tried to convert a bike to electric using, I think the company's called Switch, and it had a front wheel hub motor and a battery, and it was terrible."
An electric bike conversion means turning a regular bike into an e-bike by adding a motor and battery. The “feel” depends on how well the system is set up, not just on having a motor.
An electric bike conversion is when you take a regular bicycle and add an electric motor, battery, and controller. Conversions can work well, but the ride quality depends heavily on sensor/controller tuning and motor placement—so some setups feel seamless while others feel awkward.
front wheel hub motor
"and it had a front wheel hub motor and a battery, and it was terrible. It was the worst."
A front wheel hub motor is a motor inside the front wheel. Instead of helping through the pedals, it pushes the front wheel directly, which can change how the bike accelerates and handles.
A front wheel hub motor is an electric motor built into the front wheel hub. It can feel different from mid-drive systems because it directly drives the wheel, which can affect traction, balance, and how the bike responds when you pedal or change cadence.
pedal sensor
"And this thing, because it had a, it had a pedal sensor and at one position. So every time the sensor passed the, whatever the receiver, it would give you a little pulse of energy."
A pedal sensor is what detects your pedaling so the bike can decide when to add electric help. If the sensor timing is off, the bike can feel jerky or unpredictable.
A pedal sensor (often a cadence or torque sensor) tells the controller when and how much you’re pedaling. In this segment, the pedal-sensor behavior causes odd power pulses, which is why the rider describes the system as unintuitive and unpleasant.
accelerates off the line
"I would say the eeriest thing though is how quickly it accelerates off the line. Because that part is like, that is, I think my wife would be like,"
This is how fast the bike gets going right after you start from a stop. On e-bikes, that initial launch can feel either smooth or startling depending on the motor and control settings.
“Accelerates off the line” refers to how quickly an e-bike launches when you start moving from a stop. Many riders notice this first because it’s where motor control, sensor response, and power limits are most obvious.
auto mode
"Yes, in auto mode. So we tried the auto mode. I switched to manual."
Auto mode is when the bike decides how much help to give you. Instead of you constantly adjusting settings, it tries to match the power to what you’re doing.
“Auto mode” generally means the system automatically selects how much assistance or control input to provide based on sensors (like speed, pedal input, or rider behavior). It’s meant to make the bike feel smooth and require less rider management.
manual mode
"So we tried the auto mode. I switched to manual. I went all the way to 10."
Manual mode means you’re telling the bike what level of performance you want. Instead of the bike guessing, you pick the setting (like a higher or lower assist level).
“Manual mode” implies the rider has direct control over the bike’s performance level rather than letting the system choose automatically. In this segment, the host mentions going “all the way to 10,” suggesting a selectable power/assist level.
all purpose
"He's always like putting in sport mode... And I'm like, you don't need any modes. Just leave it in all purpose. And it really is perfect... all purpose is totally fine for 99%."
“All purpose” is basically the normal, everyday setting. The point is you don’t need to constantly switch modes—this one works for most situations.
“All purpose” here refers to a general-purpose drive/ride mode that’s meant to be a balanced default. The idea is that most conditions don’t require specialized modes because the vehicle already performs well enough for everyday use.
sport mode
"He's always like putting in sport mode. And I'm like, you don't need any modes. Just leave it in all purpose... But when I'm running to work, I'll move it into sport mode."
Sport mode is a button or setting that makes the car feel more “eager.” It usually makes acceleration respond faster so the car feels quicker when you press the pedal.
“Sport mode” is a driving setting that changes how a vehicle responds to your inputs. It typically makes throttle response sharper and may adjust steering, traction control, and regenerative braking behavior for a more aggressive feel.
range anxiety
"But as we talked about on our ride, I'm someone who, even though I'm really in the space, I still have some range anxiety. So I'll ride my TMB probably most of the time on conserve mode or something like that."
Range anxiety is the feeling that your battery might run out before you get where you’re going. It happens because battery life changes depending on how you ride and the conditions.
“Range anxiety” is the worry that you won’t have enough battery to reach your destination. It’s common in EV and e-bike use because real-world range can vary with speed, terrain, temperature, and how aggressively you ride.
conserve mode
"So I'll ride my TMB probably most of the time on conserve mode or something like that. So I make sure I have the range that I need to get where I'm going."
Conserve mode is a setting that helps you go farther on a single charge. It usually makes the vehicle less “power-hungry” so you don’t run out of battery as quickly.
“Conserve mode” is an efficiency-oriented setting meant to extend driving range. On many EVs, it reduces power output and/or changes regenerative braking and climate control so you use less energy.
steering by wire
"it's one thing to engineer similar sensations in throttle by wire or steering by wire and all the criticism,"
Steering-by-wire means the steering wheel doesn’t mechanically connect to the wheels the old way. Instead, sensors and computers translate your steering input into movement.
“Steering by wire” removes the traditional mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the steering mechanism, using sensors and actuators instead. The transcript groups it with throttle-by-wire to discuss how software can create “similar sensations,” but with different feel than mechanical systems.
torque sensor
"Like you rode a bunch of other e-bikes and put like the sensors, the torque sensor and kind of get the feedback."
A torque sensor figures out how hard you’re pushing on the pedals. The bike then uses that info to decide how much help the motor should give you.
A torque sensor measures how much twisting force the rider applies through the pedals. That signal lets the controller deliver motor assistance that matches the rider’s effort, which is critical for making an e-bike feel smooth and “natural.”
torque delivery / acceleration parameters
"to figure out different things like braking forces, pedaling forces, acceleration, all of those different parameters."
They tested how hard you pedal, how braking feels, and how the bike speeds up. Then they use that data to program the bike so it reacts smoothly.
The hosts describe instrumenting bikes to measure forces and performance variables like braking forces, pedaling forces, and acceleration. These parameters are used to tune control algorithms so the bike responds smoothly and predictably.
gear shifting
"So we were hitting this button to change gear and what a gear does was actually happening. The ratio of the rotations per minute of their pedals compared to the rotations per minute of their rear wheel was changing."
Gear shifting is how the bike changes “gearing” so your pedaling matches the speed you’re getting. On e-bikes, it can happen automatically, and the bike may need to make it noticeable so you don’t feel confused.
Gear shifting changes the effective drive ratio between the rider’s pedaling cadence and the rear wheel speed. On an e-bike, this can be software-controlled to keep the ride smooth and efficient, but the rider may not notice it unless the bike provides cues.
auto transmission style
"I ride the TMB almost exclusively in the auto transmission style because I do, the way I primarily use the bike is as a vehicle to get around."
Auto transmission style means the bike chooses the gear for you. Instead of thinking about what gear you’re in, you just pedal and the bike handles the shifting.
“Auto transmission style” on an e-bike means the bike automatically selects the appropriate gear ratio instead of requiring the rider to choose gears manually. This is often designed to reduce rider workload while keeping cadence and power delivery in a comfortable range.
e-bike assist level
"100 miles, you can get 100 miles out of the bike, absolutely. It won't be helping you that much if you're getting 100 miles of range, right? If you want to go all the way up to our assist of 10, then you're looking closer to the 30 miles."
On an e-bike, “assist level” is how strongly the motor helps you when you pedal. If you use the highest help all the time, the battery won’t last as long; if you use low help, you can go farther.
An e-bike’s assist level controls how much electric help the motor provides while you pedal. Higher assist drains the battery faster, so the same bike can have very different real-world range depending on whether you ride at low or high assist.
0 to 100 charge time
"How long does it take to charge a battery? No more than about four hours. We have two different battery sizes, so the larger battery takes a little under four hours to go from 0 to 100."
“0 to 100” means charging the battery from empty to full. The key takeaway is how many hours you need to wait before you can ride again.
“0 to 100” here means charging from empty (0% state of charge) to full (100%). Charging time matters because it determines how practical the bike is for daily use and how often you’ll need access to a charger.
proprietary bike components / proprietary everything
"So, okay. So one of the things that Reddit was like, oh, here comes these tech bros trying to show up cycling and everything on the bike is proprietary."
“Proprietary” means the bike uses special parts that aren’t standard. If those parts break, you may have to go back to the brand for repairs instead of using a local shop or common parts.
The hosts are criticizing the idea that key parts of the bike are proprietary, meaning only the manufacturer (or approved partners) can make replacements or service them. That can limit where you can get repairs and may increase costs over time.
seat bus thing
"You know, this, what do you call this? The seat bus thing. This we call the top frame."
They’re talking about a special part of the bike’s frame/connection system. The important takeaway is that it may not be compatible with normal bike parts or standard repair approaches.
This sounds like a mis-transcription of a bike frame/connection concept—likely referring to a specific structural section or interface where parts connect. The key idea is that the bike uses a dedicated connection system rather than standard mounting.
can't get serviced anywhere / service lock-in
"You just have a bike that you can't get serviced anywhere. Right. Or is it going to be one of these softwares of service providers?"
They’re worried that if the bike is designed in a way that only the brand can fix it, you can’t just take it to any local shop. That can make repairs harder and more expensive.
The discussion highlights a “service lock-in” risk: if a bike is designed so it can’t be serviced by independent shops, owners may be forced to rely on the manufacturer or a limited network. That affects long-term ownership costs, turnaround time, and repair options.
software-based service / subscription pricing for features
"Or is it going to be one of these softwares of service providers? Are they going to charge you per gear? ... If you want two additional speeds, they're going to charge you 100 bucks a month or something."
They’re wondering if the bike’s features might be locked behind an app or subscription. Instead of buying a bike with everything included, you might have to pay monthly to unlock upgrades.
They’re questioning whether the bike’s functionality (e.g., “more speeds” or gear options) will be controlled through software and paid upgrades. This is similar to feature subscriptions, where hardware capability may be “unlocked” later for an ongoing fee.
10 speeds
"Are they going to charge you per gear? Or, you know, like, oh, it's 10 speeds now. If you want two additional speeds..."
“10 speeds” means the bike can shift through ten different gear settings. They’re joking that the bike might charge you to unlock extra gears later.
“10 speeds” refers to the number of gear ratios available on the bike. In this context, the hosts are using it as an example of how the bike’s gearing could be treated like a paid software upgrade rather than a fixed hardware spec.
open source
"And bikes are with some accessory exceptions. They're generally open source. Like everyone's using, I mean, Allen wrench bolts for seat posts and the same kind of quick releases for wheels and chains and wheels are more or less."
They’re saying most bike parts are standardized, so you can usually mix and match brands. That means it’s easier to repair or upgrade your bike without being locked into one company.
In cycling, “open source” is used loosely to mean the bike ecosystem uses widely standardized parts and interfaces. That makes it easier for riders to swap components from different brands without proprietary tools or compatibility issues.
quick releases
"Like everyone's using, I mean, Allen wrench bolts for seat posts and the same kind of quick releases for wheels and chains and wheels are more or less."
Quick releases are the levers that let you take a wheel off quickly. Instead of using tools, you flip a lever to loosen and tighten the wheel.
Quick releases are lever-style clamping mechanisms that let you remove and reinstall wheels without tools. On bikes, they’re common for fast wheel changes and easier maintenance.
Allen wrench bolts
"Like everyone's using, I mean, Allen wrench bolts for seat posts and the same kind of quick releases for wheels and chains and wheels are more or less."
An Allen wrench is the small hex key tool. These bolts are used so you can adjust parts like the seat without special equipment.
Allen wrench bolts (hex bolts) are common fasteners on bikes, especially for seat posts and other adjusters. They’re a standard hardware approach that makes adjustments and repairs straightforward.
29 inch mountain bikes
"Although, I guess, lately in the last 20 years, there's been a proliferation of wheel sizes, like 29 inch mountain bikes. And I think it used to be everything was like 26 inch and everything's like, you can ride whatever kind of wheel you want, more or less."
29-inch means the bike’s wheels are bigger than older common sizes. Bigger wheels can help the bike roll over bumps more easily.
“29-inch” refers to the wheel diameter used on many modern mountain bikes. Larger wheels can roll over obstacles more easily and may feel smoother over rough terrain, but they also reflect how the industry has diversified wheel standards.
proprietary vs standardized bike parts
"But to address it directly, what I'll say is that the things that we've decided that we can really impact in a meaningful way, and what other people might call proprietary, are the things that we know are the most ripe for innovation and need the biggest changes when it comes to the bike."
They’re talking about whether a bike uses parts that only one brand makes, or parts that many brands share. Standard parts are easier to replace; proprietary parts can be better in some ways but may be harder to service.
The speaker contrasts “proprietary” components (unique to one company) with standardized, widely compatible parts. The idea is that proprietary designs can enable innovation, but standardized parts reduce friction for repairs and upgrades.
flat tire
"So, you mentioned tires, for example. Tires, I think for most people, are the thing that most commonly fails on their bike, right? They get a flat tire, that happens."
A flat tire is when your bike tire loses air because of a puncture. It’s common, and it’s why having replacement tires that are easy to find is important.
A flat tire is a puncture or loss of air pressure that prevents the tire from holding proper shape and traction. It’s one of the most common bike failures, so tire availability and easy replacement matter a lot for rider experience.
tire size
"We very deliberately expect tires in a size that are very easily replaceable. So we will carry a lot of stock of them, you'll be able to get replacements from us, but you won't have to get replacements from us."
Tire size is the exact dimensions of the tire that will fit your bike. If the size is common, you can replace it quickly at most bike shops.
Tire size determines what tires will physically fit the wheel and frame, and it affects ride feel and rolling resistance. The speaker emphasizes choosing a size that’s easy to replace so riders aren’t stuck waiting for specific inventory.
brake pads
"Same goes for brake pads and those different consumables. We do use an Allen wrench to adjust our seat post height, and that seat post and the saddle, right?"
Brake pads are the parts that slow the bike down by pressing against the wheel. They wear out over time, so being able to replace them easily is key.
Brake pads are wearable friction components that gradually thin out and need replacement. The speaker groups them with other “consumables” to highlight that routine maintenance shouldn’t require proprietary parts or special sourcing.
basket or rack
"And then when you want to start adding the different baskets and carry things, ... If you have a basket, the top part of it, the actual basket or rack was attached to the post so you just hot-swap it on."
A basket or rack is an accessory mounted to the bike frame or seat-post area to carry items. The discussion focuses on how the mounting method affects how quickly you can swap carrying setups.
hot-swap
"If you have a basket, the top part of it, the actual basket or rack was attached to the post so you just hot-swap it on."
Hot-swap just means you can change parts quickly. Instead of taking the bike apart, you attach or remove an accessory in seconds using a simple connection.
“Hot-swap” here means quickly attaching or removing accessories without tools or major disassembly. On an e-bike, that’s usually about standardized mounting points so you can change things like racks or baskets fast.
aftermarket
"And then you said you're launching with three, but I imagine A, the aftermarket will get a hold of it."
Aftermarket parts are things made by companies other than the original brand. They’re often designed to fit your bike so you can add accessories beyond what came in the box.
The “aftermarket” refers to third-party companies making accessories or parts that fit a product. In this context, the hosts are discussing whether other brands will make compatible basket/top-frame components.
mechanical connection
"To start with, the answer is definitely no. Largely because there's that very strong mechanical connection to the rest of the bike."
A mechanical connection is how parts physically lock together. The point is that it should be strong and secure, so accessories don’t wobble or fall off.
A “mechanical connection” is the physical way components lock together—like a strong mounting interface that transfers loads and keeps parts secure. The speaker is implying Rivian’s design uses a robust attachment system so accessories don’t feel flimsy or require frequent rework.
Murphy's Law
"And later on, Murphy's Law, I was like, oh, that'll take 10 minutes. It took like two hours and I had to find a thing that wasn't there."
Murphy’s Law means “things will get annoying when you least want them to.” They’re saying that swapping accessories can take way longer than expected if you have to hunt for parts or remove extra pieces.
“Murphy’s Law” is the idea that if something can go wrong or be inconvenient, it will. The speaker uses it to describe how accessory changes can turn into a time sink when parts aren’t where you expect or required pieces are missing.
saddle
"[1706.8s] There's so many out there and I don't know. [1708.8s] What's the price point of a different saddle? [1711.8s] They start at about 250 bucks."
The saddle is just the bike seat. People ask about it because the right one can make riding comfortable instead of painful.
A saddle is the seat on a bike. Different saddles can change comfort a lot, especially for longer rides, because they affect how your weight is supported and how much pressure you feel.
proprietary battery
"[1743.8s] So I hear you on trying to make the stuff that needs help better. [1747.8s] Let's talk about the proprietary battery. [1750.8s] Will that be forever proprietary or do you think you'd open it up"
A proprietary battery is a battery that only works with that bike’s system. That can be convenient, but it can also mean you’re limited to that brand for replacements or upgrades.
A proprietary battery means the battery design/pack is controlled by the manufacturer, so only compatible packs (or specific partners) can be used. That can affect cost, availability, and whether owners can swap or upgrade easily.
swappable battery pack
"[1750.8s] Will that be forever proprietary or do you think you'd open it up [1753.8s] so other people could use this pretty slick, swappable battery pack? [1758.8s] Because it's a thing in Taiwan."
A swappable battery means you can take the battery out and put in a fully charged one fast. Instead of charging for hours, you can swap and keep going—if the system is supported.
A swappable battery pack is designed so you can remove it and replace it quickly with another charged pack, reducing downtime versus waiting to recharge. For electric bikes, this can make longer rides and commuting more practical, but it depends on standardization and availability of extra packs.
battery swapping
"They have a rack of these things on a charger and you have an account. You bring in yours, you scan it, you pull the other one out, put the other one in that one's charges, you get a full battery"
Instead of plugging the battery in to charge, you take it out and put in a fully charged one. It’s meant to be fast—more like stopping for fuel than waiting for charging.
Battery swapping is a system where you exchange a depleted battery for a charged one instead of waiting for charging. The idea is to reduce downtime and make electric two-wheelers feel more like refueling a gas vehicle.
Dodge Charger
"...as station. They have a rack of these things on a charger and you have an account. You bring in yours, you ..."
The Dodge Charger is a car made for performance, meaning it’s designed to feel fast and sporty. It’s a common model people recognize, so it can come up when someone is talking about using a car for everyday tasks or services. The podcast mention suggests it’s being used as an example of a vehicle people bring in or use with a system.
The Dodge Charger is a performance-focused American sedan/coupe-style muscle car known for its strong powertrains and sporty driving feel. In a podcast context, it may be mentioned because it’s a recognizable platform that people associate with “bringing your own” vehicle or using a specific service setup. The key point is that it’s a mainstream, enthusiast-oriented model that can come up in discussions about vehicle use in real-world routines.
micro-mobility industry
"At the moment, we're not interested in being a supplier to the rest of the micro-mobility industry... there's this big gap in that micro-mobility space right now where we need more vehicles like the TMB."
Micro-mobility is the world of small electric rides like e-bikes and e-scooters. Companies in this space care a lot about convenience—like how batteries are handled—because riders expect quick, easy use.
The micro-mobility industry refers to small, lightweight transportation—typically e-bikes, e-scooters, and related shared or subscription mobility services. It often has different requirements than cars, especially around battery logistics and rider experience.
handlebars
"Okay, and then we talked a little bit about the handlebars. They are a little wide for me... there's a standard kind of high-rise bar and the sport kind of lower-rise bar..."
Handlebar geometry (including width and rise) affects rider comfort, leverage, and control feel. Wider bars can change steering effort and hand position, while “high-rise” vs “lower-rise” bars can affect posture.
proprietary stuff
"Again, a lot of proprietary stuff on here, your startup, is there any kind of subscription that goes along with buying the vehicle"
“Proprietary” basically means it’s the company’s own special technology. The question here is whether that kind of tech comes with extra paid services after you buy the product.
“Proprietary” means the company’s own, closed-off technology or systems that aren’t shared openly with competitors. In the context of a vehicle or product, it often ties into how features are delivered—sometimes including paid services, licensing, or subscriptions.
launch edition
"I think the launch edition is like $4,500, but there's a $3,500 version of this. Is there any other additional costs?"
A launch edition is the first version of a product that comes out when it’s new. It can cost more because it may include extra stuff or be limited compared to the cheaper version.
A launch edition is an early, limited or special version of a product sold at introduction, often with different pricing or included features. Here, the hosts compare a $4,500 launch edition to a $3,500 version, implying different bundles or configurations.
subscription-based connected services
"[1927.8s] It's a yearly fee. [1929.8s] So we are going to offer a subscription, somewhat similar to Rivian. ... [2004.8s] If there's sort of like ongoing work that we're providing value to you for, [2007.8s] we'll put it in a subscription."
They’re talking about paying a recurring fee for connected features on the e-bike. You can still ride without paying, but the subscription helps the bike stay connected away from home and can provide smarter suggestions over time.
This segment describes a subscription model for connected e-bike services. The subscription isn’t required to ride, but it unlocks cellular-based connectivity for security alerts and ongoing “data crunching” like route suggestions.
anti-theft features
"[1956.8s] The first and foremost area is data connection. [1959.8s] So the example I usually give here are anti-theft features."
Anti-theft features are the bike’s security tools that can alert you if something happens. In this case, whether it can alert you may depend on whether the bike is connected to Wi‑Fi or using cellular data.
Anti-theft features here are connected security functions that can trigger alerts when the bike is locked up or moved. The segment explains that these features depend on which network connection is available (home Wi‑Fi vs cellular via subscription).
4G LTE data connection
"[1963.8s] The bike has both a 4G LTE data connection and a Wi-Fi chip. [1968.8s] So if you're at home and your bike is connected to your Wi-Fi network,"
4G LTE is the cellular network connection. It lets the bike send alerts even when you’re not near your home Wi‑Fi.
A 4G LTE data connection means the bike can communicate over cellular networks without relying on nearby Wi‑Fi. That enables connected features like anti-theft alerts even when you’re out in public.
Wi-Fi chip
"[1963.8s] The bike has both a 4G LTE data connection and a Wi-Fi chip. [1972.8s] you'll get all the anti-theft features at home because that's your data connection, etc."
The Wi‑Fi chip is what lets the bike connect to your home Wi‑Fi. When it’s on your Wi‑Fi, it can use connected features without needing cellular service.
A Wi‑Fi chip lets the bike connect to local Wi‑Fi networks, which can provide more reliable connectivity at home. In the segment, it’s used to explain why anti-theft features work at home without needing the subscription.
NFC
"But if I were to own one of these things, I would have the also app on my phone [2030.8s] and there's an NFC. What's the sensor? [2035.8s] You mean between the phone and the bike?"
NFC is a “tap-to-connect” wireless feature. Here, it helps the bike recognize your phone when you’re close, so you can unlock and ride.
NFC (Near Field Communication) is a short-range wireless technology that lets two devices exchange information when they’re very close. In this context, it’s used to authenticate your phone with the e-bike so you can ride without a traditional key.
Bluetooth key
"[2038.8s] The phone and the bike, yes. [2038.8s] The Bluetooth key, essentially, knows that I'm nearby. [2042.8s] It's me. I validate it. I can go ride it."
Instead of a physical key, the bike uses Bluetooth from your phone to know it’s you. When you’re close enough, it lets you ride.
A Bluetooth key uses your phone’s Bluetooth connection to confirm proximity and identity. The bike can then allow riding functions when it detects you’re nearby and validated.
dream ride system
"[2061.8s] everything, you know, lights go off, everything shuts down, [2064.8s] and the rear wheel actually gets locked in place through our dream ride system. [2068.8s] So if you just try to, like, roll the bike away, you can't do it."
“Dream Ride System” sounds like the bike’s built-in security feature. In this case, it can lock the rear wheel when you’re not riding so someone can’t just roll it away.
“Dream Ride System” appears to be the e-bike’s proprietary security/lock-and-drive-control feature set. Here it’s specifically described as locking the rear wheel when you walk away, helping prevent theft.
vehicle-style anti-theft alarm system
"It'll also get armed just like a car would get armed with an alarm. So then if a thief comes up, first thing that'll happen is the accelerometers on the bike will detect that it's being messed with."
It’s basically a car-like theft protection system for the bike. It can detect shaking or movement, then make noise, flash lights, and show you that it’s being tracked.
The segment describes an anti-theft setup that behaves like a car alarm: arming, motion/tamper detection, audible siren, and flashing lights. It also includes escalating alerts and tracking information to improve the odds of recovery.
accelerometers
"first thing that'll happen is the accelerometers on the bike will detect that it's being messed with."
An accelerometer is a sensor that can tell when something is being shaken or moved. If someone tries to mess with the bike, it can notice the motion and warn you.
Accelerometers measure changes in motion and vibration, which is useful for detecting tampering or movement. On an e-bike, they can trigger alerts when the bike is jostled or when it starts moving unexpectedly.
car alarm volume
"Meanwhile, the thief will be getting hit with basically an alarm that's the volume of a car alarm. Lights will be flashing."
They’re saying the bike’s alarm is as loud as a car’s. The idea is to scare the thief and get people’s attention quickly.
Using “car alarm volume” implies the bike’s siren is designed to be loud enough to attract attention and deter theft. In practice, loud alarms can increase the chance that bystanders notice and the thief backs off.
being tracked
"There'll be a thing on the display that says you're being tracked. Watch out."
“Being tracked” means the bike can report where it is. If it gets stolen, the system can help you figure out its location.
“Being tracked” suggests the bike has location tracking (typically via GPS and/or cellular connectivity) so the owner can monitor where it is during a theft. This is often paired with alerts and a display message to guide the response.
bricking your bike
"you can brick your bike just like you could brick your iPhone, which means that there's not really anything the thief can do with it"
“Bricking” is when a device gets so messed up that it won’t work anymore. With modern e-bikes, the electronics can be locked or damaged, so the bike can become unusable.
“Bricking” means the bike’s electronics are rendered unusable, usually because the system is locked or damaged by an incorrect action. The comparison to a phone highlights that modern e-bikes can be software-controlled and can fail in a way that makes them effectively dead.
anti-theft design (can't sell for parts)
"which means that there's not really anything the thief can do with it at that point because they can't even sell it for parts. Like they couldn't sell the top frame"
They’re talking about making stolen bikes less useful to thieves. If parts don’t work on other bikes (or the bike can be disabled), it’s harder to sell, so theft is less appealing.
The hosts are describing an anti-theft strategy where the bike is hard to monetize after theft—either because parts don’t fit other bikes or because the electronics can be “bricked.” This reduces the incentive for thieves by limiting resale value.
wheels
"Take the wheels. Take the wheels. Yeah. And that's, you know, kind of. They're part of owning a bike."
Wheels are one of the easiest parts to steal and reuse or sell. They’re mentioning wheels as the kind of thing thieves might still take if the rest is harder to monetize.
Wheels are a common theft target because they’re valuable and can sometimes be resold. The hosts mention taking the wheels as a fallback, implying the design aims to make other components harder to profit from.
latch
"So what you experienced earlier was our latch, which is just what kind of secures it into the bike. There's also an electronic locking pin"
A latch is a physical catch that holds the battery onto the bike. It’s like a built-in clip/lock that keeps the battery from coming loose.
A latch is the mechanical securing mechanism that holds the battery to the bike. In this design, the latch is part of the anti-theft strategy, working alongside an electronic lock to keep the battery in place.
electronic locking pin
"There's also an electronic locking pin that when you walk away from the bike comes down and actually locks that battery into place."
An electronic locking pin is an automatic lock that engages when you leave the bike. It’s meant to stop someone from taking the battery off, even if they try to mess with the basic latch.
An electronic locking pin is a motorized/actuated pin that drops into place to lock the battery when you walk away. This adds a second layer of security beyond the latch, preventing battery removal even if someone can access the latch area.
camp speaker
"The camp speaker in the Rivian has a locking pin. Yeah."
A camp speaker is a built-in speaker meant for outdoor listening. They’re saying it’s also locked in place so someone can’t easily steal it.
A “camp speaker” suggests an integrated accessory speaker intended for outdoor use. The key detail is that it also has a locking pin, meaning it’s secured against theft like the battery.
bike lock
"Nothing's stopping them from using a traditional bike lock [2239.8s] and locking the bike up to something. [2241.8s] That's totally cool. But to your earlier point, they don't need to do that."
A bike lock is the physical lock you use to attach a bike to something solid, like a rack. The hosts are saying you can still do that if you want, even with the bike’s built-in security.
A traditional bike lock is an external security device used to physically prevent theft by securing the bicycle to a fixed object. The hosts mention it as an option even if the e-bike has its own security features.
Rivian R2
"...r point, they don't need to do that. They can use R2. And to your, I'll answer your question directly,"
The Rivian R2 is an electric SUV-style vehicle made by Rivian. It’s meant to be a more practical EV option for regular driving. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as something you can use instead of doing extra work or using a different setup.
The Rivian R2 is an electric vehicle positioned as a more accessible, everyday-friendly model in Rivian’s lineup. It’s significant in EV discussions because it’s designed to broaden who can consider an electric SUV-style vehicle. The podcast context suggests the R2 is being referenced as a practical option that can replace or reduce the need for other steps in a workflow.
R2
"But to your earlier point, they don't need to do that. [2246.8s] They can use R2. And to your, I'll answer your question directly, which is to say that we do have some concerns about theft generally."
“R2” is the name of the Rivian e-bike they’re talking about. They’re saying it has its own security features, so you may not need to lock it up with a regular bike lock every time.
In this context, “R2” refers to a specific Rivian e-bike model/variant being discussed in the episode. The hosts contrast it with using a traditional bike lock, implying the bike has built-in security features that reduce the need for external locking.
theft generally
"[2248.8s] And to your, I'll answer your question directly, [2250.8s] which is to say that we do have some concerns about theft generally. [2255.8s] That is what led us to a very robust and secure system."
They’re talking about the general problem of bike/e-bike theft. Because e-bikes are expensive and easy to take, companies often build extra security into the bike to reduce that risk.
“Theft generally” is the broader risk environment that drives product design decisions like stronger security systems. In e-bikes, theft risk is a major factor because they’re valuable, portable, and often left unattended.
4G LTE connection
"And in addition to that, our bike is, [2262.8s] I mentioned before, it has a 4G LTE connection. [2264.8s] It is not only software defined,"
4G LTE is the cellular network your phone uses. It means the bike can connect to the internet on its own, which helps it get updates and services without you having to plug in or use Wi‑Fi.
A 4G LTE connection lets the bike communicate over cellular networks without relying on your phone’s hotspot. That enables features like remote updates, live services, and connectivity even when you’re away from Wi‑Fi.
updatable over the air
"[2264.8s] It is not only software defined, [2266.8s] but it is updatable over the air, [2268.8s] again, just like Euribian."
Over-the-air updates mean the bike can download new software by itself, like how your phone updates apps. If something is wrong or needs improvement, it can be fixed remotely instead of visiting a shop.
“Over-the-air” (OTA) updates mean the bike’s software can be improved or fixed remotely via its cellular connection. This is especially important for security patches, feature updates, and bug fixes without taking the bike to a service center.
security patch
"So in the unlikely event that we find [2272.8s] that there's some kind of bug in the security, [2275.8s] we can patch it very easily and send that update to the bike."
A security patch is like a safety fix for the bike’s software. If researchers find a weakness, the company can release an update so the bike is protected.
A security patch is a software update designed to fix vulnerabilities that could be exploited. The hosts are describing a scenario where a security bug is found and the bike can be updated quickly to reduce risk.
compass for navigation
"[2281.8s] and we talked a little bit about, [2283.8s] right now, because it's not connected to my phone [2286.8s] and it's early days, it's got a compass for navigation, [2289.8s] but eventually there will be maps."
A compass tells the bike which direction you’re going. That helps navigation work better, especially when you’re riding in areas where GPS alone can be a little jumpy.
A compass helps determine the bike’s heading (which direction it’s facing), which improves navigation accuracy and map orientation. Many devices combine compass data with GPS to provide more stable guidance.
turn-by-turn directions
"[2292.8s] Yes. [2293.8s] Maps and turn-by-turn directions. [2295.8s] Map, turn-by-turn direction. [2296.8s] With audio?"
Turn-by-turn directions are the kind of navigation that tells you exactly what to do next, like “turn here.” The segment also mentions you may hear it through an audio connection.
Turn-by-turn directions are navigation instructions that guide you stepwise (e.g., “turn left in 200 feet”). The hosts discuss how the bike will eventually provide these prompts, with audio support when paired to an audio device.
driven off the phone
"[2301.8s] Yeah, yeah. [2302.8s] So all of that is driven off the phone as well. [2304.8s] So there is a GPS in the bike,"
This means the bike may use your phone to handle the navigation information. If your phone isn’t connected, some features (like maps or directions) might not work yet.
“Driven off the phone” implies the bike’s navigation and guidance features may rely on the smartphone for processing, map data, or routing. This affects how well the system works when the bike isn’t connected to your phone.
GPS
"[2302.8s] So all of that is driven off the phone as well. [2304.8s] So there is a GPS in the bike, [2306.8s] which is how you get your compass."
GPS is the system that figures out where you are using satellites. The bike uses it to know your location so it can guide you with directions.
GPS (Global Positioning System) provides the bike’s location using signals from satellites. In this segment, the GPS is described as the basis for navigation features like the compass and later turn-by-turn directions.
enhanced security
"The subscription would be to have the enhanced security, the alerts sent to you if your bike was being thrown in the back of a U-Haul."
Enhanced security means extra protection features that watch for unusual activity. In this case, it’s about getting alerts if the bike is being moved or handled in a way that could indicate theft.
Enhanced security refers to additional protective features beyond standard device operation, typically including alerts and monitoring. The hosts describe it as sending notifications if the bike is moved in suspicious ways (e.g., being loaded into a truck).
U-Haul
"the alerts sent to you if your bike was being thrown in the back of a U-Haul. Yeah, that's right."
U-Haul is a company that rents trucks for moving. They’re using it as an example of a situation where the bike’s security system might send you an alert.
U-Haul is a moving-truck and trailer rental company used here as an example scenario for security alerts. The point is that the bike can detect/flag events like being loaded into a truck.
Spotify
"So if you wanted to Spotify, you don't have to connect to the bike."
Spotify is an app for streaming music. They’re saying you can listen to music through your phone without extra setup on the bike.
Spotify is a music streaming service. The hosts say you can play music from your phone without needing to connect it directly to the bike.
Strava
"[2372.8s] how they're doing on their Strava. [2375.8s] We are compatible with all of that. [2377.8s] So you will be able to hook up a heart rate monitor to the bike"
Strava is an app people use to log their bike rides and runs. If the bike can send your ride to Strava, you can see your stats and compare them over time.
Strava is a popular fitness and cycling app that records rides and lets you compare performance with other athletes. When the bike exports to Strava, it’s transferring ride metrics like distance, speed, and time so you can track progress and segments.
heart rate monitor
"[2375.8s] We are compatible with all of that. [2377.8s] So you will be able to hook up a heart rate monitor to the bike [2380.8s] and can kind of match your heart rate data"
A heart rate monitor tells you how fast your heart is beating while you ride. The bike can combine that with your GPS ride info so you can see how hard you were working.
A heart rate monitor measures your pulse during exercise, usually via a chest strap or wrist sensor. Pairing it with the bike lets the system correlate effort (heart rate) with GPS ride data like speed and route.
export a ride
"[2386.8s] You can also, through the also app, [2388.8s] export a ride to a Strava or Garmin [2391.8s] or whatever thing you'd like to use."
“Export a ride” means sending your ride record from the bike/app to another app. That way you can keep all your training data in the place you like.
“Export a ride” means transferring recorded ride files/metrics from the bike’s companion app to third-party platforms. This matters because it lets riders keep one consistent history of workouts and analyze trends across apps.
Garmin
"[2386.8s] You can also, through the also app, [2388.8s] export a ride to a Strava or Garmin [2391.8s] or whatever thing you'd like to use."
Garmin makes GPS and fitness tracking tools. If your ride can be exported to Garmin, you can view and organize your ride data in their app or device.
Garmin is known for GPS devices and fitness tracking ecosystems. Exporting a ride to Garmin means the bike’s GPS/ride data can flow into Garmin’s platform for mapping, analysis, and long-term tracking.
e-motorcycle
"Yeah, they had bikes too. [2413.8s] Which is not bikes, sorry, e-motorcycle, whatever. [2415.8s] Yeah, they had bikes too."
An e-motorcycle is a bike that runs on electricity instead of gas. It has a battery that powers an electric motor, and it can often slow down using the motor to help recharge a bit.
An e-motorcycle is a motorcycle powered by an electric motor instead of a gasoline engine. It typically uses a battery pack for energy and may include regenerative braking to recapture some energy while slowing down.
company went under
"Okay. [2420.8s] Their company went under [2421.8s] and you got to keep one of their bikes [2422.8s] because you had it on loan."
If the company that made the bike shuts down, you might lose help later—like repairs, replacement parts, or software updates. That can make it harder to keep the bike running if something breaks.
When a vehicle or e-mobility company goes under, support can disappear—like parts availability, software updates, and warranty coverage. For owners, that can affect long-term usability if the product depends on proprietary components or ongoing service.
on loan
"Their company went under [2421.8s] and you got to keep one of their bikes [2422.8s] because you had it on loan. [2423.8s] Yeah, I was like, what do I do with these?"
“On loan” means the bike wasn’t bought by the person talking—it was borrowed for a period. If the company later disappears, the ownership and responsibility for repairs can get complicated.
A loaner bike means it’s temporarily provided to someone (often for testing or evaluation) rather than being purchased. That matters because the legal and support situation—like who handles repairs or what happens if the company closes—can differ from a normal customer purchase.
subscription (not requiring the subscription)
"Yeah, that's part of our strategy in terms of not requiring the subscription or any of that sort of thing. So it's its own thing. It doesn't need to be updated."
They’re saying the bike can work without paying a monthly fee. Some smart vehicles need subscriptions for features or updates, but this one is designed to be usable on its own.
The hosts are discussing a business/ownership model where the e-bike doesn’t require an ongoing subscription to function. That matters because some connected vehicles lock features behind paywalls or require periodic service to keep working.
connected-vehicle update dependency (doesn't need to be updated)
"So it's its own thing. It doesn't need to be updated. That's correct."
They’re saying the bike doesn’t rely on software updates to keep working. That’s good because it reduces the risk that the bike becomes less usable if the company stops supporting it.
They emphasize that the vehicle “doesn’t need to be updated,” which implies it’s not dependent on ongoing software support to remain functional. This is a key consideration for long-term ownership of connected EVs and e-bikes.
Juicero
"Were you in Silicon Valley in 2017 when the Juicero launched? ... it was basically juice in a bag, and they were selling you a $400 machine that would squeeze the juice out of the bag into the cup."
Juicero was a company that sold a pricey gadget to squeeze juice from special pouches. People criticized it because the pouches were basically squeezable by hand, so the machine didn’t seem worth the money.
Juicero was a Silicon Valley startup that sold a countertop machine meant to squeeze juice from pre-packaged pouches. The joke (and the lesson) was that the product was essentially a bag of juice that many people could squeeze by hand, making the $400 device feel unnecessary.
Specialized
"You have this biking background where you worked at Specialized, you ran, it looks like you ran like a city, some kind of biking program."
Specialized is a well-known bike company. Bringing it up helps explain why the guest understands bikes deeply.
Specialized is a major bicycle brand known for building performance bikes and components. Mentioning it gives context for the guest’s credibility and the biking culture behind the discussion.
human-powered
"You were fully invested in human-powered, like, it's a sweet product, but, like, does this..."
“Human-powered” refers to cycling where the rider provides the energy without motor assistance. In this segment, it’s used to contrast the guest’s earlier biking focus with the shift toward electric assistance.
overall benefit to humanity
"We're going to replace people riding bicycles 100% with their own power... Like, what's the overall benefit to humanity?"
This is a broader adoption question: whether replacing purely human cycling with e-assisted riding creates net benefits. It’s essentially about how technology changes behavior and what the real-world impact might be.
analog bikes
"[2598.8s] our goal is not to displace [2600.8s] what I call analog bike trips or bike products. [2603.8s] I do believe, as a bike guy,"
They’re talking about regular, non-electric bikes—just you pedaling. The point is that e-bikes aren’t meant to erase regular bikes; they’re meant to add another option for getting around.
“Analog bikes” refers to traditional bicycles that rely on human pedaling rather than electric assistance. The comparison is used to frame e-bikes as a new way to use a bicycle as transportation, not as a replacement for every traditional ride.
manual transmission
"[2608.8s] just like there's always a place [2610.8s] for a manual transmission car or something like that. [2612.8s] Sure."
“Manual transmission” is used as an analogy for traditional driving/ride experiences that will always have enthusiasts. In this context, it supports the idea that e-bikes can coexist with traditional bikes rather than fully replacing them.
view the bicycle as a vehicle
"[2622.8s] What our goal is to help people [2624.8s] view the bicycle not as a, [2627.8s] you know, expensive toy [2629.8s] or a, you know, means solely for exercise or sport, [2634.8s] but actually as a vehicle."
They’re saying the bike shouldn’t be seen only as a hobby or workout tool. They want people to think of it like a real way to get places—like a car or scooter, just powered differently.
This is a transportation concept: treating a bicycle (especially an e-bike) as a practical vehicle for commuting and errands, not just a recreational product. It’s an important framing because it explains why electric assist can expand who uses bikes and for what kinds of trips.
e-bike as "transcendent mobility"
"“or not thinking of the bicycle as a way to move around to get some transcendent mobility… now they can consider it that.”"
They’re talking about why an e-bike could be a better way to get around for more people. The idea is that it can make biking feel like real transportation, not just a hobby.
This segment is about positioning an e-bike as a mobility solution—something that can fit into people’s lives and travel needs. The hosts emphasize that it’s not just a novelty, but a way to get around that feels more accessible than traditional biking.
EV grade bicycle
"“I hope it rings true that it feels sort of like EV grade bicycle.” [2686.8s] Yeah. [2687.8s] We're reviving grade, really."
They’re saying the e-bike feels “EV-like,” meaning it’s not just a regular bike with a motor. It’s designed to be smooth and efficient, with electronics and power that feel more premium.
The phrase “EV grade bicycle” is describing an e-bike that’s engineered with the same kind of performance, refinement, and engineering mindset you’d expect from electric vehicles (EVs). In practice, that usually means smoother power delivery, better efficiency, and more integrated electronics than a basic e-bike.
quad bike
"tell them about your quad. Because I love four wheel. I grew up, we used to go to Newport Beach every summer and you could rent these quad bikes..."
A quad bike is a four-wheeled off-road vehicle, kind of like a small ATV. The host is saying they grew up riding these and are excited about a similar four-wheel electric idea.
A quad bike is a four-wheeled off-road vehicle (often called an ATV) typically used on trails and beaches. In this segment, it’s used as context for why the hosts are excited about a four-wheeled electric alternative.
quad e-bike
"go back and do a Google search for also quad e-bike and you will see a very slick looking four wheel."
A “quad e-bike” is basically an electric, four-wheeled ride—more like a small ATV than a normal bicycle. It’s usually easier to balance than a two-wheel bike, but it can feel different when you accelerate or turn.
A “quad e-bike” (as described here) refers to an electric bike-style vehicle with four wheels, combining e-bike power with ATV-like stability and traction. The key difference versus a typical two-wheeled e-bike is how it handles and how power delivery affects control at low speeds.
TMQ
"“TMQ. TMQ, that’s right, the Transcendant Mobility Quad inside of the bike.”"
TMQ is just the short name for “Transcendant Mobility Quad.” It’s the quad-style delivery piece they’re talking about.
TMQ is the acronym for “Transcendant Mobility Quad,” which the hosts use as the name for the quad mobility module/unit. It’s presented as a core part of the delivery-focused e-bike concept.
Transcendant Mobility Quad
"“TMQ, that’s right, the Transcendant Mobility Quad inside of the bike... We are super excited about the Transcendant Mobility Quad.”"
The “Transcendant Mobility Quad” (TMQ) is described as a quad-style mobility unit built into the bike concept, intended for package delivery. The key idea is using a compact, maneuverable vehicle to navigate narrow streets for last-mile logistics.
Amazon
"“...it’s starting is in collaboration actually with Amazon. Because Amazon is sort of at the forefront globally...”"
Amazon is mentioned as a key partner and driver of alternative delivery formats. In logistics, Amazon’s scale and experimentation can accelerate adoption of new last-mile concepts like small electric delivery vehicles.
hub and spoke deliveries
"“...like hub and spoke deliveries, in other words a big Rivian van goes out with all the packages for a neighborhood and then you have three of these little quad...”"
It’s a delivery strategy where a big truck brings packages to a local area first. Then smaller vehicles do the final trips to homes, which helps when streets are tight.
“Hub and spoke” delivery is a logistics model where a larger vehicle (the “hub”) drops off packages to a local area, then smaller vehicles (the “spokes”) handle last-mile delivery. It’s designed to reduce congestion and improve efficiency in dense neighborhoods with narrow streets.
EDV Rivian Van
"...ke hub and spoke deliveries, in other words a big Rivian van goes out with all the packages for a neighborhood"
The EDV is an electric van designed for delivering packages. Instead of making every delivery trip from the start, it can bring a lot of packages to an area so deliveries can be handled more efficiently. The podcast is using it to describe how delivery routes can be organized with a single van.
The EDV is an electric delivery van built for route-based logistics, often described as a “hub and spoke” delivery vehicle. In the podcast context, it’s used to explain how one large van can carry many packages for a neighborhood, then local deliveries can be handled more efficiently. It’s discussed because it represents a purpose-built EV approach to commercial delivery operations.
delivery bike
"That was their whole plan, was a delivery bike. Yeah. Like last mile stuff."
A delivery bike is built for everyday hauling—like carrying packages or people around town. It’s usually set up to be stable and useful for repeated trips, not just for going fast.
A delivery bike is designed for frequent, practical trips rather than pure speed or sport riding. These bikes are typically optimized for carrying capacity, stability at low speeds, and predictable range for short urban routes.
last mile stuff
"That was their whole plan, was a delivery bike. Yeah. Like last mile stuff."
“Last mile” means the final part of a delivery, like when a package is brought from a nearby drop-off point to your home. Companies care about it because it’s often the hardest and most expensive part of the trip.
“Last mile” refers to the final leg of a delivery route—getting goods from a local hub to the customer’s doorstep. It’s a big focus for delivery companies because it’s where time, cost, and traffic congestion really add up.
commercial version
"we sort of realized one, there's a very broad market here for the commercial version of that TMQ."
A “commercial version” means the product is adapted for business use—often with durability, serviceability, and payload/range requirements that differ from consumer models. For delivery-focused e-bikes, that can include higher reliability under daily use and easier maintenance.
e-bikes apart
"They're making like homemade, I guess they're taking the e-bikes apart and making little wooden buggies to take the kids to school."
They’re saying people sometimes take an e-bike apart and reuse parts for other projects. That can let them build something like a kid-carrying cart while still using the electric power system.
The hosts mention people taking e-bikes apart and repurposing parts, which highlights how modular some e-bike platforms can be. This kind of customization can change the bike’s form factor (e.g., turning it into a child-carrying “buggy”) while still leveraging the electric drivetrain.
gap in form factors
"And so I think that phenomenon you're talking about is a testament to this gap I spoke about a few minutes ago. There's this gap in form factors in this space."
“Form factor” just means the vehicle’s shape and how it’s meant to be used. They’re saying new technology makes it easier to build new kinds of vehicles that weren’t practical before.
The hosts are talking about “form factors” meaning different physical styles and use-cases of vehicles (like how an e-bike can be shaped and used differently than a traditional car). They’re arguing that newer technology makes these unconventional layouts practical, even when older engineering constraints (like needing a gas engine) prevented them.
radiator
"You had to have a gas engine. You had to have radiator and all this big, bulky stuff. Had to be a car,"
A radiator is how a car keeps its engine from overheating. It’s one reason gas-powered vehicles tend to need more space for extra parts.
A radiator is part of a vehicle’s cooling system that removes heat from the engine by circulating coolant through a heat exchanger. The hosts mention it to highlight how gas engines force more bulky hardware into the vehicle packaging.
"running around the neighborhood" use case
"It's still those two wheels, but the point is like for running around the neighborhood, because it's LA, I live on top of a dead end hill,"
They’re talking about using a small vehicle for quick local trips—like errands around the neighborhood. The idea is that you don’t always need a car for short distances.
The speaker is describing a short-trip, local-mobility use case—errands and quick trips—where smaller vehicles like e-bikes can be practical. This is a common theme in micromobility: matching the vehicle to the trip length and environment rather than defaulting to a car.
14% incline
"[2870.8s] And like, okay, could I have taken my bike? [2872.8s] Yeah, but I've, [2873.8s] it's a 14% incline up then. [2875.8s] Back home. [2876.8s] You know, eighth of a mile sucks."
A 14% incline is a pretty steep hill. Climbing it takes more effort from an electric bike or vehicle, and it can affect how far you can go.
A 14% incline means the road rises 14 units vertically for every 100 units of horizontal distance, which is steep for everyday driving. Steeper grades demand more motor power and can reduce range and speed for electric vehicles and e-bikes.
NEVs (neighborhood electric vehicles)
"[2878.8s] I'm 50. [2879.8s] So yeah, I was like, [2880.8s] these neighborhood electric vehicles, [2882.8s] NEVs are like a cool thing, [2884.8s] but a quad."
NEVs are small electric cars meant for short, local trips. They usually don’t go very fast, but they’re great when you’re mostly driving around your neighborhood.
NEVs are small, low-speed electric vehicles designed for short trips—typically within neighborhoods or campuses. They’re often limited in top speed and range compared with full-size EVs, which makes them a practical fit for “everything is a mile away” use cases.
drivetrain
"[2882.8s] but a quad. [2884.8s] TMQ, same drivetrain? [2888.8s] Essentially, yes. [2889.8s] Because of the Amazon use case, right?"
The drivetrain is the system that takes power from the electric motor and sends it to the wheels. If two vehicles have the “same drivetrain,” they’re using a similar way of moving power.
A drivetrain is the set of components that deliver power from the motor to the wheels (for EVs, typically motor(s), reduction gearing, and related power transfer parts). When the speaker says “same drivetrain,” they mean the fundamental power-delivery layout is similar even if the vehicle’s size and power needs differ.
concept quads
"And then you saw, we debuted some of our concept quads in the consumer space and if I count the kids correctly in the back there, I believe there were four kids in the back when Kelly drove out on stage. But, you know, that's still in concept."
They’re talking about a prototype vehicle idea, not something you can buy yet. “Concept quads” means they showed an early version of a small, multi-person ride concept to see how people react.
The hosts mention “concept quads,” which suggests a prototype-style vehicle concept rather than a production model. In this context, “quad” likely refers to a multi-person, low-speed vehicle layout (often with four wheels) designed to explore new use cases like family transport.
rickshaw
"This is the rickshaw that you would see on Bourbon Street or even Venice."
They compare it to a rickshaw, which is a small vehicle used to carry people around in busy areas. The point is that it’s meant for short trips and multiple riders, like you’d see in tourist neighborhoods.
A “rickshaw” is a small, human- or motor-assisted vehicle used for short-distance transport, often in tourist or dense urban areas. The comparison implies the vehicle is meant for neighborhood-scale trips with multiple passengers, similar to how rickshaws move people around busy streets.
Software defined
"And all the social media is right also. Got a lot of cool, automotive grade features, right? Software defined. He said it, not us for once."
It means the car’s features are controlled by software. Instead of being hardwired, the car can often get improvements or new features through updates.
“Software defined” means the vehicle’s key functions and features are controlled primarily by software rather than fixed hardware. That enables faster updates and feature changes, often through over-the-air (OTA) updates, and it can make the car feel more “upgradeable” over time.
airbag
"But, why is there no airbag on this thing?"
An airbag is a safety cushion that pops out in a crash to help protect your body. If something doesn’t have one, it may rely on other safety features instead.
An airbag is a supplemental restraint system designed to deploy during a crash to reduce injury. If a vehicle or e-bike-like product lacks an airbag, it’s a notable safety tradeoff that affects how risk is managed compared with vehicles that include airbags.
Super 73s
"...they're ripping around on what's the one with the banana seat. Super 73s. They're riding daddy's round power."
Super73 makes electric bikes that look like old-school mopeds. The point here is that some kids are riding them fast and unsafely, especially at night without lights or helmets.
Super73 is an e-bike brand known for its retro “moped” styling, including models that use a banana-seat look. In this segment, the hosts are discussing how these e-bikes are being used by teens and the safety risks that come with riding at night and without proper gear.
unbuckled
"...they're maybe wearing a helmet. If they are, it's usually unbuckled. The guys are riding..."
If a helmet isn’t buckled, it can slip off in a crash. That makes it much less helpful for protecting your head.
A helmet that’s worn but not properly buckled won’t stay in place during a fall, reducing its ability to protect the head. The segment highlights that even when kids wear helmets, they’re often not secured.
wheelie
"...a guy off the back. We're doing a wheelie. Nobody has lights on..."
A wheelie is when you ride with the front wheel up. It’s risky on the street because it’s easier to lose balance and crash.
A wheelie is when the rider lifts the front wheel off the ground, typically by shifting weight and using power or momentum. Doing it on public roads—especially at night—adds instability and increases the chance of losing control or colliding with obstacles or other traffic.
lights
"We're doing a wheelie. Nobody has lights on and it's at night time..."
Lights help other people see you, especially after dark. If nobody has lights on at night, it’s much easier for riders to get hit.
Bike lights are critical for visibility and for other road users to predict your movement, especially at night. The hosts call out that nobody has lights on, which directly increases crash risk and makes it harder for drivers to see and react.
30, 28
"...Nobody has lights on and it's at night time and these things are going 30, 28,"
They’re talking about how fast the e-bikes are going—around 28 to 30. Going that fast makes it harder to stop and makes accidents more dangerous.
The hosts are referencing speed—likely how fast the e-bikes are going (around the high-20s to 30 mph range). Higher speed increases stopping distance and makes crashes more severe, which is why they’re tying it to safety concerns.
Class 3 electric bicycle
"So, let me start by saying [3032.8s] that the TMB is a Class 3 [3034.8s] electric bicycle, [3035.8s] which means that in most states, [3037.8s] including the one we're in right now,"
“Class 3” is a legal category for faster electric bikes. It usually means the bike can assist up to a higher speed, and that comes with extra rules about who can ride it and where it’s allowed.
A “Class 3” electric bicycle is a U.S. regulatory category for e-bikes that provide pedal assist up to a higher speed than Classes 1 and 2. Because of that, many states require riders to meet certain conditions (like age limits) and may restrict where they can be used.
Class 3 bike
"Okay. And they do need to wear a helmet. That's the state law regarding a Class 3 bike."
In the U.S., e-bikes are grouped into “classes” based on how fast the motor can help you go. A “Class 3” e-bike is the faster type, and many places require a helmet when riding it.
A “Class 3” bike is a legal category for certain e-bikes that are allowed on many public paths but have higher speed limits than lower classes. The exact rules vary by state, but it typically includes requirements like helmet use and limits on motor assist speed.
interaction with the car
"It's an interaction with the car. So, the first thing we did is with dream ride, we actually made this motor capable of accelerating the TMB with a rider on it at 0.3 Gs."
They’re talking about the biggest risk for cyclists: getting into a bad situation with cars. The bike’s behavior (like how it accelerates) can change how safe and predictable it is around traffic.
The speaker frames “dream ride” as addressing the most likely dangerous scenario for cyclists: conflicts with cars. This is a safety concept—design choices (like acceleration behavior) can affect how predictable the rider is to drivers and how the bike behaves in traffic.
0.3 Gs
"we actually made this motor capable of accelerating the TMB with a rider on it at 0.3 Gs. That may be in something to you and may or may not mean something to your audience."
“0.3 Gs” is a way to describe how hard the bike accelerates. “G” is like gravity, so 0.3 Gs means the bike can speed up with a noticeable push.
“0.3 Gs” is a measure of acceleration, where “G” means the acceleration due to gravity (about 9.8 m/s²). Saying the motor can accelerate the bike with a rider at 0.3 Gs is a way to quantify how forceful the launch/boost can be, which matters for safety and stability.
Class 3 e-bike
"So, while we have that 28-mile-an-hour motor-assisted top speed of a Class 3 e-bike, we can get to it faster than most bikes on the market."
In the U.S., e-bikes are grouped into classes based on how fast the motor assist can go. “Class 3” usually means pedal-assist up to about 28 mph, so it’s meant to be faster than most casual e-bikes.
A Class 3 e-bike is a regulatory category (in the U.S.) for pedal-assist bikes that can reach higher speeds than lower classes. It typically allows pedal assist up to 28 mph, which affects where you can ride and what kind of motor assist behavior to expect.
first line of defense
"And that is sort of the first line of defense, if you will,"
They’re basically saying the bike’s performance is meant to help you ride more safely. If you can accelerate quickly when the light turns green, you’re less likely to get stuck or do sudden moves to keep up.
“First line of defense” here is a safety/behavior concept: designing the vehicle’s performance so riders can merge into traffic flow smoothly rather than forcing risky maneuvers. In this context, faster acceleration and predictable assist help reduce the need to “fight” traffic.
biomotion lighting
"we have featured what's a concept known as biomotion lighting. So this is when you're riding at night, right? Our lights, specifically the rear lights on all three of our top frames have some LEDs... the last couple LEDs there are actually firing down instead of out."
Biomotion lighting is a special way of using bike lights so they look more like movement. Instead of shining light straight out, the LEDs are aimed or timed so other drivers can better understand what you’re doing at night.
Biomotion lighting is a lighting strategy that mimics how living creatures move—often by changing the direction or pattern of light. In this case, the rear LED elements “fire down” rather than projecting straight outward, which can make the rider’s motion more noticeable to drivers behind.
LEDs
"Our lights, specifically the rear lights on all three of our top frames have some LEDs at the end... the last couple LEDs there are actually firing down instead of out."
LEDs are the tiny lights inside the light unit. Because they’re electronic, they can be turned on in specific patterns, which helps make the light more visible and easier to understand.
LEDs (light-emitting diodes) are the small electronic light sources used in modern vehicle and bike lighting. They can be arranged in clusters and controlled individually, which enables directional or animated effects like the “firing down” rear-light behavior described here.
red light
"[3159.8s] so there's data out there [3160.8s] that shows that [3161.8s] when a brain [3162.8s] recognizes a red light [3163.8s] in front of you, [3164.8s] that's all you recognize, [3165.8s] you recognize a red light."
A red light is the traffic signal that tells you to stop. They’re using it as an example of how your brain focuses on what it sees—sometimes only the signal, and sometimes the signal plus other motion cues.
The hosts are referencing how drivers/people visually process traffic signals. They’re using the example of recognizing a red light to explain how attention and perception change when the brain also detects human-like motion cues.
uncanny valley
"[3166.8s] it goes back to [3168.8s] almost to that [3169.8s] uncanny valley thing [3170.8s] we were talking about, [3171.8s] when you recognize biomotion, [3172.8s] motion that is unique [3173.8s] to a human being,"
The “uncanny valley” is a weird feeling people get when something looks or moves almost like a real person, but not perfectly. Here, they’re saying your brain notices human-like movement patterns, and that affects how you interpret what you’re seeing.
The “uncanny valley” describes how people can feel uneasy when something looks or moves almost— but not quite—like a real human. In this context, the hosts are talking about how the brain reacts to human-like motion cues (biomotion) and why that matters for how riders are perceived.
illuminated as you're pedaling
"So if we were riding at night, you would see again, like from your knee down, give or take, will be illuminated as you're pedaling. And so it helps send that signal."
They’re describing lights that turn on in a way that matches your pedaling. That makes it easier for people around you to notice you and understand what you’re doing.
This describes a visibility system that lights up in sync with pedaling. The idea is to make your motion more obvious to drivers and other riders, improving safety at night.
1500 lumens
"The front light is about 1500 lumens, which is damn near equivalent to a single car headlight."
Lumens are a way to describe how bright a light is. Higher lumens usually means the light is easier to see with at night, even if the beam shape also matters.
Lumens measure the total amount of visible light a light source produces. Saying the front light is about 1500 lumens gives you a sense of brightness compared to other lighting systems, including automotive headlights.
200 lumens
"And the rear light is about 200 lumens, which is not quite as bright as a car tail light, but it is plenty bright for..."
This is another brightness number. The rear light is less bright than the front, but it’s still meant to be clearly seen by other drivers.
Lumens also apply to the rear light, and 200 lumens indicates how bright the tail light is in total output. The hosts compare it to a car tail light, implying it’s intended to be visible without being as intense as a full-size vehicle’s lighting.
stealth mode
"Creeper mode? Yeah, there's sort of a stealth mode, if you will."
Stealth mode is a riding setting meant to make the bike feel more low-key. It usually reduces how noticeable it is—like softer behavior or quieter operation—so it’s less “in your face.”
A “stealth mode” (also described as a sort of stealth mode) typically refers to a riding setting that reduces noticeable behavior—often quieter operation, softer lighting, or gentler power delivery. The goal is to make the bike feel less conspicuous or less aggressive while still being usable.
regenerative braking
"[3237.8s] We weren't talking, [3238.8s] we didn't talk at all about braking. [3239.8s] Braking is regenerative. [3240.8s] It is both regenerative [3242.8s] and mechanical hydraulic brakes."
Regenerative braking means the bike slows down using the motor, and that slowing also helps recharge the battery. It’s like getting some energy back instead of turning it all into heat.
Regenerative braking is when an electric motor slows the bike while also turning that motion into electricity to recharge the battery. Instead of wasting all the energy as heat, it recovers some of it and can improve range and control.
mechanical hydraulic brakes
"[3240.8s] It is both regenerative [3242.8s] and mechanical hydraulic brakes. [3244.8s] Yeah. [3245.8s] So, dream ride [3246.8s] has regenerative braking"
Mechanical hydraulic brakes are the normal “squeeze the lever, brake pads clamp” system—but it uses fluid to transfer the force. On an e-bike, you may use them together with regenerative braking.
Mechanical hydraulic brakes use a lever to push fluid through brake lines, which then clamps brake pads onto a rotor (or similar braking surface). On e-bikes, they typically work alongside regenerative braking for stronger or more consistent stopping.
fixed gear
"[3251.8s] to dream ride [3252.8s] is, [3253.8s] you joked earlier [3254.8s] about fixies. [3255.8s] It's almost like a fixed gear,"
A fixed-gear feel means the pedals/drivetrain are tied to the wheel motion. So when you roll, the bike’s drivetrain behavior is more consistent, and it can feel different than a bike that coasts freely.
A fixed-gear feel means the drivetrain ratio is effectively “locked” to wheel motion—when the wheel turns, the drivetrain turns in a predictable way without a freewheel. That can change how the bike coasts and how braking/regen feels compared to a typical freewheeling setup.
front pulley
"[3257.8s] even when the wheel [3258.8s] is spinning forward [3259.8s] and you're not putting energy [3260.8s] into it, [3261.8s] you're able to recapture energy [3263.8s] using that front pulley."
A pulley is a wheel that redirects or transfers motion. Here, the “front pulley” is part of the bike’s drive system that helps turn slowing down into electricity.
A front pulley is part of the belt/drive path that changes how motion is transmitted to the wheel. In this context, it’s used to recapture energy during deceleration via the bike’s belt-driven system.
regen braking
"[3265.8s] And so, [3266.8s] when you pull your brake levers [3267.8s] on the TMB, [3268.8s] all hydraulic brakes [3270.8s] on bikes have what's known as a deadband... [3283.8s] the regen braking [3285.8s] actually starts to apply"
Regen braking is a way for an electric bike to slow down while also charging its battery. Instead of all the stopping energy turning into heat, some of it gets reused.
Regen (regenerative) braking is when an electric motor slows the bike down and turns some of that motion back into electricity. That recovered energy is stored in the battery instead of being wasted as heat at the brakes.
deadband
"[3266.8s] when you pull your brake levers [3267.8s] on the TMB, [3268.8s] all hydraulic brakes [3270.8s] on bikes [3271.8s] have what's known as a deadband... [3275.8s] of the travel of the lever, [3276.8s] you're not actually compressing [3278.8s] any pads."
Deadband is the “free play” at the start of pulling the brake lever. You move the lever a bit before the pads actually squeeze the wheel.
A deadband in braking is the initial portion of lever travel where the system isn’t yet applying pad pressure. On many bikes, that early lever movement takes up slack or moves a cable/actuator before the brakes really clamp.
75% of the braking force is done on the front wheel
"[3298.8s] Is there a, [3299.8s] I think if you recall from the physics, [3300.8s] 75% of the braking [3302.8s] force is done on the front wheel. [3303.8s] Yes. [3304.8s] So, I'm so glad you mentioned that."
This is a reference to how braking forces distribute between front and rear wheels. Because weight shifts forward during braking, the front wheel typically does most of the work, which affects stopping distance, tire wear, and how much regenerative braking you can safely rely on without upsetting stability.
San Francisco Bicycle Coalition
"[3314.8s] on this bike [3315.8s] is a program that I participated in [3317.8s] actually with the San Francisco [3318.8s] Bicycle Coalition."
The San Francisco Bicycle Coalition is an organization focused on making biking safer and more practical. It’s relevant here because it hints the speaker’s experience comes from bike advocacy and community work, not just product engineering.
The San Francisco Bicycle Coalition is a local nonprofit that advocates for safer, more accessible bicycling infrastructure and education. Mentioning it provides context for why the speaker’s bike design decisions may prioritize real-world rider safety and usability.
AAA
"...which means it's sort of like being certified by AAA to teach Driver's Ed. You're certified by the League of American Bicyclists to teach Bikers Ed."
AAA is a U.S. organization most people know for roadside help. In this episode, it’s mentioned just to explain that the instructor’s training is official and recognized.
AAA is a well-known roadside assistance and travel organization in the U.S. The speaker uses it as an analogy for certification—suggesting their cycling instruction is “official” in the same way driver-training credentials are.
Driver's Ed
"...which means it's sort of like being certified by AAA to teach Driver's Ed. You're certified by the League of American Bicyclists to teach Bikers Ed."
Driver’s Ed is a training program that teaches people how to drive safely. Here, the speaker is saying cycling classes work similarly—teaching safe control, like how to brake without crashing.
Driver’s Ed is formal instruction designed to teach safe vehicle operation and risk awareness. In this context, the host compares it to cycling instruction, emphasizing that braking technique and control are taught skills rather than instinct.
League of American Bicyclists
"You're certified by the League of American Bicyclists to teach Bikers Ed. And so, I teach a lot of these classes on the weekends in San Francisco."
This is a U.S. organization focused on bicycle safety and education. The speaker is saying they’re officially certified to teach bike safety classes.
The League of American Bicyclists is a U.S. nonprofit that promotes bicycling education and safety. The host’s point is that they’re certified to teach “Bikers Ed,” similar to how driver-training programs certify instructors.
front brake
"...riders who are totally freaked out as to which brake is which because they're very concerned about going over the handlebars and they grab too much brake. These are adults and kids, both."
On most bicycles, the front brake provides stronger stopping power but also has less margin for error because it affects balance immediately. Using too much front brake can cause the rider to pitch forward, especially on wet or uneven surfaces.
brake lever
"they don't want to go over the handlebars, and they get into the situation where they have to suddenly pull their brakes, but their brain is thinking, oh crap, which one do I pull? ... regen braking actually applies regardless of what brake lever you pull."
A brake lever is the part you squeeze to slow down. On some e-bikes, squeezing one lever can make the bike slow down in more than one way, not just at the wheel you might assume.
A brake lever is the handle you squeeze to command braking. On some e-bikes, pulling one lever can trigger braking on multiple wheels via linked or integrated braking logic, rather than only the wheel you’d expect.
linked braking (lever-to-wheel logic)
"regen braking actually applies regardless of what brake lever you pull. So, even though it's only happening on the rear wheel, because it's connected to dream ride, it activates when you pull the front brake lever."
Some e-bikes are programmed so that when you squeeze a brake lever, the bike decides how to slow down automatically. That can make braking feel more consistent and easier to use, especially in panic moments.
The episode describes a control strategy where braking response is linked to which lever you pull, so the system can apply regenerative braking even when you pull the “other” lever. This can reduce rider confusion and improve stability by making deceleration behavior more predictable.
energy capture
"But there's no energy capture on the front wheel happening? There's no energy capture on the front wheel."
Energy capture means turning some of the bike’s movement into electricity instead of letting it disappear as heat. It’s the same general idea as regenerative braking in cars.
“Energy capture” refers to recovering some of the bike’s motion energy instead of wasting it. On vehicles, this is commonly done with regenerative systems that convert motion back into electricity.
speed sensor
"There is a speed, there's a speed sensor that's happening there so that we can do things like traction control on the rear wheel."
A speed sensor is a device that tells the system how fast a wheel is spinning. That information helps the bike or vehicle adjust power to keep traction and stability.
A speed sensor measures wheel speed so the vehicle can make control decisions. In this context, it enables traction control logic by knowing how fast the rear wheel is turning relative to expected behavior.
traction control
"so that we can do things like traction control on the rear wheel."
Traction control helps prevent the wheel from spinning uselessly when the surface is slippery. It does this by cutting back or adjusting power when it senses the wheel losing traction.
Traction control is a stability system that reduces wheel slip by modulating power when a driven wheel loses grip. It typically uses wheel-speed sensors to detect slip and then intervenes quickly to maintain controllability.
gear reduction from the rear wheel to that pulley
"Yeah, basically, the reason we can capture so much energy with dream ride is the gear reduction from the rear wheel to that pulley."
Gear reduction means the bike’s wheel spins one way, but the system that’s connected to it spins differently—usually slower but with more “push.” That helps the bike use the wheel’s motion more efficiently for powering the e-bike’s electronics.
Gear reduction is using a smaller output speed (and higher torque) after the rear wheel’s motion is transferred to a pulley. In this e-bike context, it helps convert wheel rotation into usable mechanical/electrical output more effectively for charging or powering systems.
dynamo hub
"There's a product out on the market known as a dynamo hub. It's a hub with a little generator built into it."
A dynamo hub is a built-in generator inside the bike’s wheel hub. When you ride, it makes electricity, often to run bike lights without needing to charge a battery.
A dynamo hub is a bicycle hub that contains a small generator. As the wheel spins, the generator produces electricity—commonly used to power lights without batteries. In this segment, they’re discussing how much energy can be captured from wheel rotation.
capturing energy from a spinning tire
"But the amount of energy that just the spinning of a wheel can generate is enough to power, most dynamos are used to power like a front light on a bike or something like that."
They’re talking about turning the bike’s motion into electricity. As the tire spins, a generator can make power, but it usually doesn’t make enough to run everything—more like small accessories unless the system is designed for higher output.
This describes regenerative-style energy capture, but via a generator mechanism driven by wheel motion. The key idea is that even without a battery, the bike can harvest some electrical energy from how fast and how hard the wheel is turning. The tradeoff is typically limited power output compared with dedicated charging systems.
speed and stopping distance
"...when they're going to be on a bike doing 28 miles an hour... it's the classic guys making a left turn into the driveway and this kid on an e-bike was ripping way too fast"
If something is going faster, it takes longer to slow down and stop. So when a driver turns and a rider is moving quickly, there’s less time to react and avoid a crash.
When a vehicle (like an e-bike) is traveling faster, the rider needs more distance to slow down and stop safely. That’s why driver behavior—like turning across traffic—becomes riskier when the other road user is moving quickly.
left turn across traffic
"...this happened right in front of my kid's school and it's the classic guys making a left turn into the driveway and this kid on an e-bike was ripping way too fast"
A left turn into a driveway can be dangerous because the car has to cross other people’s paths. If the other person is coming faster than expected, it’s easier to misjudge and not have enough time.
“Left turn into a driveway” is a common conflict point because the turning driver crosses the path of oncoming traffic. If the oncoming vehicle is an e-bike moving faster than expected, the turning driver may misjudge timing and distance.
unprotected left
"[3492.8s] this is the motorcycle's [3493.8s] biggest fear, right? [3494.8s] Unprotected left [3495.8s] the guy turns in front [3496.8s] and somebody hits."
An unprotected left turn is a left turn where you don’t have a protected signal that guarantees other cars will stop. Motorcycles are especially at risk because other drivers might not notice them before turning.
An unprotected left turn is when a driver turns left without a dedicated arrow or guaranteed right-of-way, relying on gaps in oncoming traffic. It’s a high-risk maneuver for motorcycles and cyclists because drivers may not see them, leading to broadside impacts.
collision mitigation
"[3501.8s] Any collision mitigation? [3503.8s] First of all, I will say [3504.8s] I appreciate you saying"
Collision mitigation means safety tech that tries to prevent a crash or make it less bad. It can include sensors that notice danger and then warn the rider or help slow down.
Collision mitigation refers to safety systems designed to reduce the severity or likelihood of crashes. On two-wheelers, it can include detection of other road users and warnings or automatic braking to help prevent impacts.
vehicles that accelerate well
"[3505.8s] because this is something [3506.8s] that my dad used to tell me [3507.8s] that no one talks about [3508.8s] which is [3509.8s] vehicles that accelerate well [3511.8s] that's a safety function."
The point is that if a vehicle can speed up quickly, it can get through risky situations faster—like crossing an intersection or merging. That shorter exposure time can help avoid crashes.
The idea is that strong acceleration can be a safety advantage because it helps a vehicle clear intersections, merge, or complete a maneuver before a conflict develops. In practice, quicker acceleration can reduce the time you’re exposed to cross-traffic or gaps that are closing.
0 to 62
"but everybody who criticizes motor traffic for covering 0 to 62 much it's like hey it's also somewhat of a safety aspect."
“0 to 62” is how fast something accelerates from a standstill up to 62 mph. It’s a speed/acceleration brag number, not a full picture of how safe or controllable a vehicle is.
“0 to 62” is shorthand for acceleration from 0 mph to 62 mph (about 100 km/h). It’s often used as a performance metric, but it doesn’t directly describe handling, braking, or real-world safety.
full suspension
"Another safety aspect of course is our full suspension where when you're going 28 miles an hour you can't be hitting a bump that's going to toss you off the bike or something like that."
Full suspension means the bike has shock absorbers on both the front and the back. It helps smooth out bumps so the bike stays stable and you’re less likely to lose control.
Full suspension means the bike has suspension at both the front fork and the rear shock. That helps keep the tires in contact with the road over bumps, improving stability and reducing the chance of being thrown off at speed.
child limit feature
"...we are offering a child limit feature where you will be able using the onboard data and GPS connections to sort of geofence the bike..."
This is a parent-control setting for a bike. It can limit where a rider is allowed to go and help parents know if the bike leaves the safe area.
A child limit feature is a safety/parent-control mode that restricts how a powered vehicle can be used. In this case, it uses onboard data and GPS to enforce boundaries and optionally notify parents.
geofence
"...using the onboard data and GPS connections to sort of geofence the bike and there's different flavors of this right..."
A geofence is like an invisible fence drawn on a map using GPS. If the bike goes outside that area, the system can warn you or stop the bike from riding.
A geofence is a virtual boundary created using GPS. The bike can compare its location to that boundary and trigger actions like limiting riding or shutting down when it leaves the allowed area.
class 2 speed
"give it to your kid you could set it at a class 2 speed or something like a 20 mile an hour"
E-bikes are often grouped into “classes” based on how they help you and how fast they’re allowed to go. “Class 2” usually means it can assist you with a limited throttle, but still has a speed cap like around 20 mph.
“Class 2” is a regulatory category for certain e-bikes that typically allows pedal-assist plus a limited throttle assist, with a capped top speed. The hosts are implying you can configure the bike to match that class’s speed behavior (e.g., around 20 mph) for compliance and safety.
assumption of risk / legality-by-modern-standards
"there's an assumption of risk when you're on a 2-liter you know what's that quote like if the bicycle was invented today it would be illegal"
They’re basically saying: if something like a bicycle were invented today, modern rules might ban or restrict it. The point is that today’s laws focus heavily on safety and predictable limits like speed.
The hosts are making an argument about how modern safety/legal standards would treat older technologies differently if they were invented today. In automotive/e-mobility terms, this maps to how regulations (speed caps, assist limits, and classification rules) shape what’s allowed on public roads.
2-liter
"there's an assumption of risk when you're on a 2-liter you know"
A “2-liter” usually refers to the size of a car’s engine. Here, it sounds like the speaker is using the term in a comparison, not talking about a real 2.0-liter engine.
“2-liter” is a common way to describe engine displacement (2.0 liters), but in this segment it appears to be used metaphorically while discussing bicycles/e-bikes. Since the context is about e-bike legality and speed limits, this likely isn’t an actual engine spec being discussed.
electric motorcycles
"[3609.8s] that a lot of [3610.8s] a lot of folks [3611.8s] are buying these [3612.8s] electric motorcycles [3613.8s] on Amazon"
An electric motorcycle is a bike that uses a battery and an electric motor instead of gas. Different places treat them differently under the law, including how fast they’re allowed to go.
The hosts are talking about electric motorcycles—motorcycles powered by an electric motor and battery instead of a gasoline engine. These often have speed limits and legal classifications that vary by region, which is why the discussion focuses on how changing wiring can affect top speed.
modifying wiring to change vehicle speed
"[3613.8s] on Amazon [3614.8s] and if you snip one wire [3615.8s] sure [3616.8s] that 28 mile an hour speed limit [3617.8s] just jumped to 50"
They’re describing a hack where you cut or change a wire to make the bike go faster. That usually means the bike’s built-in limiters are being bypassed, which can be unsafe and may break the law.
The hosts describe “snip one wire” as a way to bypass or alter the vehicle’s speed restriction. This is essentially an electrical/firmware limitation bypass, which can affect how the controller limits power and top speed, and can create safety and legal risks.
speed limit
"[3615.8s] that 28 mile an hour speed limit [3616.8s] just jumped to 50 [3617.8s] yeah sure"
A speed limit is the maximum speed a vehicle is allowed to reach under local rules. If someone changes the vehicle so it can go faster than allowed, it can become illegal and less safe.
The segment references a legal speed limit (first “28 mile an hour”) for certain low-power/limited electric vehicles. They then claim that altering wiring can raise the effective top speed, which matters for both legality and safety.
heavy mountain bike feel
"it kind of feels like a heavy mountain bike yeah 80 pound it's heavy but it's not crazy"
They’re comparing how it rides to a heavier mountain bike. That usually means it feels planted and stable, even if it’s not super light.
The hosts compare the e-bike’s ride character to a “heavy mountain bike,” which is a shorthand for how weight and suspension/geometry translate into real-world handling. It suggests the bike prioritizes stability and traction over being ultra-light and nimble.
low center of gravity
"we did something very interesting which is put both the motor and the battery very low on the bike"
If the heavy parts (like the battery and motor) are placed low, the bike feels steadier. It’s harder to tip over and easier to control when you’re riding.
Putting the motor and battery very low on the bike lowers the center of gravity. That typically makes a vehicle feel more stable and easier to handle, especially at low speeds and during cornering.
battery down this low
"but no one else had done the battery down this low and it creates a sort of iconic profile shape of the bike sort of square in the middle"
Where the battery sits matters. Putting it lower helps the bike feel more stable, even if the battery itself is heavy.
Placing the battery low in an e-bike lowers the overall center of gravity and can improve handling. It also changes how the bike’s mass is distributed, which affects stability and how “heavy” it feels during lifting versus riding.
iconic profile shape
"and it creates a sort of iconic profile shape of the bike sort of square in the middle but it doesn't just look cool"
Sometimes the bike looks a certain way because of how the parts are packed inside. A thicker middle section often means the battery is placed in a specific spot for better balance.
The “profile shape” here is a design choice driven by packaging the battery and motor components. When the battery is integrated into a thicker midsection, it can visually signal the bike’s mass distribution and structural layout.
battery removal
"they melt away is when you can pull the top frame and the battery out and drop about 25 pounds off the bike"
They’re talking about being able to take the battery out of the e-bike. That can make it easier to charge at home, carry the battery inside, or handle the bike safely if something happens. It also helps reduce the bike’s weight when you lift it.
The speaker is describing a design where you can remove the e-bike’s battery by pulling the top frame and taking the battery out. That matters because it can make charging, carrying, or emergency handling easier. It also affects how heavy the bike feels when you’re lifting it or transporting it.
loading after a crash
"do it in primarily one scenario which is putting it onto a car wreck most other times for most riders"
They’re talking about what happens after an accident—how the bike might need to be loaded onto a vehicle for transport. In those situations, being able to remove the battery safely can be especially helpful. It’s about safety and practicality when things go wrong.
The speaker mentions a scenario where the e-bike is put onto a “car wreck,” which implies loading it onto a tow/transport setup after an accident. This is relevant because battery removal and safe handling can matter more when a bike is damaged or needs to be moved quickly. It’s a reminder that e-bike safety design isn’t only about riding.
wheeling an e-bike
"most other times for most riders they are keeping both wheels on the ground and wheeling it something like that in that scenario"
They’re describing how riders usually move the bike by rolling it on its wheels. They’re contrasting that with a more extreme situation where you might need to load it after an accident. The point is that design choices should match how people actually use the bike.
“Wheeling it” refers to moving the bike while keeping both wheels on the ground, rather than lifting it onto a vehicle. The speaker contrasts this common rider behavior with a less common scenario involving loading it after a crash. This highlights how real-world use affects what design features (like battery removal) are most useful.
two-wheel drive
"Will there be a two-wheel drive version will you ever put a motor in the front?"
Two-wheel drive means the car only powers two wheels instead of all four. That can make it simpler and sometimes cheaper, but it may not grip as well as all-wheel drive when roads are slippery.
Two-wheel drive (2WD) means power is sent to only two wheels—either the front or the rear—rather than all four. It can reduce complexity and weight compared with all-wheel drive, but it may offer less traction in snow or on loose surfaces.
motor in the front
"Will there be a two-wheel drive version will you ever put a motor in the front? I have seen It's an interesting idea"
If the motor is in the front, the front wheels do more of the work to move you forward. That can change how the vehicle accelerates and how it handles, especially on slippery ground.
Putting a motor in the front implies a front-drive or front-assist layout, where the electric drive unit helps propel the vehicle from the front axle/wheels. This affects traction, handling balance, and how the bike or vehicle feels under acceleration.
flexible cable
"It had a flexible cable that ran to the front To the front wheel It was wild"
A flexible cable is basically a bendable wire/rope that can pull or move something. Here, it’s described as sending motion from a control area to the front wheel.
A flexible cable can transmit motion from a control point to a wheel or drivetrain component. In this context, it’s being used to describe an older method of actuating front-wheel drive on a two-wheeler, where the cable runs to the front wheel.
electric motors up front
"but you could do it now with electric motors up front In theory we definitely could That's right"
Instead of using cables or gears to send power to the front wheels, you can put an electric motor there. Electric motors can push the wheels directly, so the system can be simpler and more responsive.
Using electric motors on the front axle is a modern way to achieve two-wheel drive without mechanical linkages like cables. Because electric torque can be delivered instantly and independently, it’s easier to implement front-wheel drive “in theory” for a two-wheeler.
winter testing
"just this past week we've been doing some winter testing over in like Tahoe because that's near to us and maybe that will inspire some more thoughts like this"
Winter testing means trying things in cold weather to see how they behave on slippery roads. It matters because traction is worse in winter, so the drivetrain has to work differently.
Winter testing refers to evaluating vehicles or components under cold-weather conditions like snow, ice, and low traction. It’s relevant here because traction and drivetrain behavior can change dramatically in winter, which can influence ideas about two-wheel drive and motor placement.
Tahoe
"over in like Tahoe because that's near to us and maybe that will inspire some more thoughts like this Perfect"
They’re talking about testing in Tahoe, which is a cold/wintry area. That’s why they’re thinking about how vehicles behave on slippery roads.
Tahoe is mentioned as the location for winter testing. While it’s not a vehicle component, the setting helps explain why they’re thinking about traction and drivetrain behavior in cold conditions.
electric cars range degradation in cold weather
"My next question was what's the performance degradation in cold weather because we know famously electric cars get brutalized in cold weather the range goes down considerably especially if you're driving fast in cold weather"
Cold weather makes an EV go fewer miles because the battery doesn’t work as efficiently and the car has to spend energy warming things up. If you drive fast, you use even more energy, so the range drops more.
Electric vehicles often lose range in cold weather because battery chemistry slows down and the vehicle uses energy to heat the cabin and battery. Driving faster increases aerodynamic drag and power demand, which makes the range drop feel even more severe.
EV range loss in cold weather
"it wasn't quite that cold but I did lose some range but it wasn't enough that actually made me stop any more than I would have"
Cold weather can make an EV go fewer miles. The battery works less efficiently, and the car also uses power to warm things up.
EVs often lose range in cold weather because the battery’s chemical reactions slow down and more energy is used to heat the cabin and battery. Even if the car is still drivable, the reduced efficiency can noticeably shorten the distance you can go on a charge.
e-bike range (50 to 40 miles)
"let's say it's called a 50 mile range because I like to use higher assist levels it takes me from 50 to 40 that's still pretty good"
They’re giving a real example of how e-bike battery life changes. With more help from the motor, you might go from about 50 miles down to around 40 miles.
The speaker is describing how real-world e-bike range can drop when riding with different settings—here, from an advertised/typical 50-mile range down to about 40 miles. This illustrates that range estimates depend heavily on assist level, rider effort, and conditions.
higher assist levels
"because I like to use higher assist levels it takes me from 50 to 40 that's still pretty good on the e-bike"
Higher assist means the motor helps you more. That makes riding easier, but it also uses up battery faster.
On an e-bike, higher assist levels increase motor power to help you ride faster or with less effort. The tradeoff is that using more assistance draws more energy, which reduces range.
battery degradation
"if you start your ride with a warm battery you'll definitely minimize that degradation which is much harder to do in an EV"
Your battery slowly wears out as you use it. Things like how warm it is when you start driving and how you charge can affect how fast it loses its ability to hold energy.
Battery degradation is the gradual loss of a lithium-ion battery’s capacity and ability to hold charge over time. In EVs, how you charge and use the battery—like starting a ride with a warm battery—can influence how quickly that degradation happens.
warm battery
"if you start your ride with a warm battery you'll definitely minimize that degradation"
Batteries work better when they’re warm. If the battery is cold, it may not give power as easily, so warming it up before you ride can help.
A warm battery can improve performance because lithium-ion batteries deliver power more efficiently at higher temperatures. Warming the pack before riding can also help reduce stress on the cells, which may slow degradation.
EV
"which is much harder to do in an EV I'll plug it in"
An EV is an electric vehicle that runs on electricity stored in a battery. Because it’s battery-powered, charging habits and battery temperature matter a lot.
EV stands for electric vehicle. It refers to cars (and other vehicles) powered primarily by an electric motor and a rechargeable battery, which changes how energy use and battery health are managed compared to gasoline cars.
Tesla
"I'm curious because I think Tesla all EVs have done really well in the Nordic countries"
Tesla is a well-known electric-vehicle company. The point here is that their EVs seem to do well in very cold places, where battery range and efficiency can be harder.
Tesla is a major EV manufacturer known for scaling electric vehicles and charging infrastructure. The hosts mention Tesla’s strong performance in Nordic countries, which is often discussed in the context of cold-weather EV efficiency and real-world range.
Nordic countries
"all EVs have done really well in the Nordic countries and they're also famous"
The Nordic countries are known for cold weather. Since EV batteries don’t always perform as well in the cold, doing well there is a good sign for real-world winter use.
The Nordic countries (like Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark) are frequently used as a real-world test case for EVs because of cold winters and long driving distances. Cold temperatures can reduce battery performance, so strong results there suggest good cold-weather behavior.
inline performance edition
"we have our inline performance edition which is the bike right here that you rode"
A “performance edition” is a nicer version of the same bike. Here, they’re basically saying it rides the same, but it looks different.
“Performance edition” indicates a higher-spec or more enthusiast-focused trim within the same product line. In this segment, they’re saying the performance is the same as the launch edition, but the “performance edition” has a different look (a special colorway).
special color way
"you just got a special color way if you got the launch"
A “colorway” just means the bike’s color scheme. Sometimes limited editions are mostly about looks rather than different performance parts.
A “special colorway” is a unique paint/finish or color scheme offered for a particular edition. It’s a common way brands differentiate limited editions without changing the underlying hardware.
watt-hour battery
"what size battery at $4,500 that's the larger pack ... the $800 or so watt hour battery"
Watt-hours tell you how much energy is stored in the battery. More energy usually means you can ride farther, but real range still depends on how you ride and what the bike is doing.
A watt-hour (Wh) rating is a measure of battery energy capacity. Higher Wh generally means the e-bike can store more energy, which can translate to longer range depending on riding conditions and power use.
hardware and software difference
"now the key distinction there is ... yes there is a difference in hardware in terms of the battery there is also a ... combination hardware software difference"
They’re saying it’s not only the battery itself that changes—there’s also software that controls how the bike uses that battery. That can change how much power you get and how efficiently it runs, which affects range.
The episode notes that differences between configurations aren’t just physical (hardware like battery capacity), but also software. Software can change how the bike manages power delivery, charging behavior, and ride modes, which can affect real-world range and performance.
0.3G of acceleration
"back to that 0.3G of acceleration if you want 0.3G of acceleration"
“G” is a way to measure how hard something accelerates. If an e-bike says 0.3G, it’s basically saying it can speed up at about 30% of how fast gravity pulls you down. Higher G usually means quicker, stronger acceleration.
“G” is a unit of acceleration relative to gravity (1G ≈ 9.81 m/s²). When a bike claims 0.3G, it means the bike can accelerate at about 30% of the rate gravity accelerates you downward. It’s a useful way to compare how hard different e-bikes pull, even if their top speeds and powertrains differ.
standard battery
"you got to get the performance bike if you get the base bike with the standard battery you get a max acceleration of 0.2G"
The battery is what powers the motor, so a “standard battery” usually means a smaller or less capable battery than the top option. That can affect how fast the bike accelerates and how far it can go on a charge. The bike may still be quick, just not at its best.
E-bike performance is often tied to battery capacity and power delivery. A “standard battery” typically means a lower-capacity or lower-output pack than the performance option, which can limit peak acceleration and overall range. In practice, you may get strong performance, but not the bike’s maximum capability.
swap batteries back and forth
"and can you swap batteries back and forth does it care?"
Battery swapping means you can take the battery out and put a different one in. The big questions are whether the batteries are compatible and whether the bike works normally after you swap. If it’s supported, it can be an easy way to go farther without waiting for a full recharge.
Battery swapping is about whether an e-bike’s battery system is designed to be removed and replaced quickly and safely. Key questions are compatibility (do different battery packs fit and communicate correctly?), charging workflow, and whether swapping affects performance or warranty. If the bike supports it, owners can effectively “extend range” by carrying a second pack.
battery range
"you can swap batteries but all you'll get is more or less range what I'm saying is it does care you need the combination of the software"
“Range” means how far the e-bike can ride before the battery runs out. Even if you swap in a bigger battery, the bike still has to use it efficiently to actually go farther.
“Range” is how far an e-bike can go on a full charge. It depends on both the battery capacity and how the bike’s software manages power delivery and efficiency.
software + battery compatibility
"it does care you need the combination of the software I have an 800 watt hour battery I can't shove it in the $3,500 bike"
The bike’s computer controls how hard the motor helps you. If the battery and software aren’t matched, you might not get the extra range you’d expect.
E-bikes don’t just run on battery capacity; their control software (power limits, assist modes, efficiency strategies) strongly affects real-world range. That’s why swapping batteries can change range only “more or less,” depending on how well the system is tuned together.
0.2G
"okay so $3,500 gets you 0.2G"
“0.2G” is another shorthand metric used in the price-to-performance comparison. As with “0.3G,” the excerpt doesn’t define what “G” means, so the listener should expect it’s tied to the hosts’ specific testing or configuration.
levels of assist
"[4038.8s] well the other piece [4039.8s] that is [4040.8s] twice the level of assist [4041.8s] so you rode [4042.8s] the bike you rode today [4043.8s] had ten levels of assist [4044.8s] that's the performance [4045.8s] the standard T&B [4046.8s] has five levels of assist [4047.8s] so it won't assist you [4048.8s] quite as much"
An e-bike can help you with different “strengths.” More assist means the motor does more work (faster acceleration), and less assist means you do more (often better battery life).
“Levels of assist” are the different settings that control how strongly an e-bike’s motor helps you. Higher assist levels typically provide more power and acceleration, while lower levels let you ride more like a regular bike and usually improve battery range.
hilly neighborhood (range tradeoff)
"so if I live in a really hilly neighborhood I want to get the higher performance addition"
Hills make the bike work harder, so you use more battery. If you live somewhere hilly, you may need higher assist to keep the ride comfortable, but you’ll likely get fewer miles per charge.
Riding in hills typically increases energy demand, so an e-bike’s range depends heavily on terrain and how much assist you use. In hilly areas, riders often choose higher assist to maintain speed and reduce effort, accepting reduced range as the tradeoff.
30% grade
"at the top of a 30% grade in San Francisco I can ride my TNB performance up that hill at 30% grade"
“30% grade” tells you how steep a hill is. It means the hill rises a lot over a short distance, so it takes a lot more effort (or power) to ride up.
A “30% grade” means the road rises 30 units vertically for every 100 units of horizontal distance. It’s an extremely steep slope, so it heavily affects how much power (or battery) you need to climb.
25 miles an hour
"and go about 25 miles an hour if I had the standard bike and rode it up that same hill"
They mention riding around 25 mph. Going faster usually uses more power, so it can reduce how far you can go on a charge.
“25 miles an hour” is a key speed for e-bikes because higher speeds increase aerodynamic drag and power draw. That directly affects climb performance and how quickly the battery is depleted.
e-bike (electric bicycle)
"okay but great idea okay so I if motorcycles are legal all this like this is a class this like I'm looking at one from my wife and we have a small child and I don't want her to ever have to worry about falling over because she's not pedaling hard enough"
An e-bike is a regular bike, but with a motor that helps you pedal. It can make starting and riding easier without you having to push as hard.
An e-bike is a bicycle with an electric motor that assists pedaling. The motor can make it easier to ride at lower effort, which matters for stability and confidence—especially for riders who may not be able to pedal strongly yet.
100-mile range
"[4231.8s] I mean [4232.8s] the market [4233.8s] leader [4234.8s] at least in my neighborhood [4235.8s] are these Rad Power Bikes"
Range means how far the electric bike can go before the battery runs out. Even if a bike claims a big number, real-world distance can change based on how you ride and where you ride.
“100-mile range” refers to how far an e-bike can travel on a full battery charge under typical riding conditions. Range depends heavily on rider weight, assist level, terrain, wind, and tire pressure, so it’s a key spec when comparing bikes.
e-bike pricing tiers
"[4236.8s] and they go around [4237.8s] 15 to [4238.8s] 100 bucks to [4239.8s] 1800 bucks [4240.8s] this is"
They’re talking about why electric bikes cost different amounts and what you’re really paying for. Higher prices usually mean better parts, more battery range, or more power.
The hosts are comparing e-bike price ranges (roughly $15–$1800 in the transcript, likely referring to different models or price points) and then questioning why a different e-bike is priced higher. This is essentially about how manufacturers position value—what features and performance you get as price increases.
price points
"but so why are these price points the sweet spot like you said we really wanted to bring"
Price points are just the different prices a product is sold for. The hosts are saying the bike’s pricing matters because it affects whether people feel it’s worth buying.
“Price points” refers to the specific price levels a product is offered at, which strongly influences who buys it and how it competes in the market. In EV/e-bike segments, pricing is often balanced against battery cost, motor components, and target features to hit a value sweet spot.
micro EV form factor
"it's really as this sort of micro EV form factor and so when you think of it in that context"
This is basically a tiny electric vehicle design. It’s made to be practical and affordable, even if it’s not as fast as bigger electric bikes or cars.
“Micro EV form factor” describes a very small, lightweight electric-vehicle design intended for short trips and practical everyday use. The idea is to package the battery, motor, and controls into a compact platform—often trading top speed or range for cost and convenience.
range vs speed tradeoff
"yeah maybe can't go quite as fast but it can do everything you told me you do with that e-motorcycle for about a third of the price"
This is the idea that if you want better efficiency or lower cost, you might not get the highest speed. Going faster usually uses more battery, so range can drop.
The segment highlights a common EV/e-motorcycle tradeoff: you may give up some top speed to gain practicality, cost, or efficiency. Battery capacity, motor power, and controller limits determine how speed affects usable range.
suspension travel
"...because I didn't ask you how much suspension travel does it have roughly 120mm front and rear front and rear..."
Suspension travel is how much the suspension can “move” when you hit bumps. If it has more travel, it can handle rougher trails more comfortably and keep the tires in contact with the ground.
Suspension travel is the amount the suspension can move up and down before it bottoms out. More travel generally means the bike can absorb bigger bumps and maintain traction over rough terrain.
120mm
"...how much suspension travel does it have roughly 120mm front and rear front and rear..."
120mm is a measurement of how much the suspension can move. In general, bigger numbers like this usually mean the bike is meant for rougher trails, not just smooth roads.
A suspension travel measurement of about 120mm indicates a relatively capable, trail-oriented setup rather than a simple commuter suspension. On an e-bike, this helps manage impacts while maintaining control and traction.
top tubeless
"...it looks like a top tubeless sort of if you squint your eyes kind of a down hilly kind of mountain bike..."
Tubeless tires don’t use an inner tube. That usually means fewer punctures from pinching and better traction because you can run slightly lower pressures.
“Tubeless” refers to tires that seal directly to the rim without an inner tube. This can reduce pinch flats and allow lower tire pressures for better grip on rough surfaces.
downhilly kind of mountain bike
"...if you squint your eyes kind of a down hilly kind of mountain bike do you expect people to actually take it like..."
They’re basically saying it looks like a bike built for downhill-style trail riding. That kind of bike is usually designed to stay stable and handle big bumps better.
The speaker is comparing the e-bike’s design to downhill/mountain-bike geometry, which typically prioritizes stability at speed and control over rough terrain. That comparison helps listeners understand the intended riding style.
seated comfort
"we designed this bike and it's suspension for seated comfort I said earlier right"
Seated comfort means the bike is set up so your body doesn’t get beat up by bumps. When it’s comfortable, you can ride longer and steer more confidently.
“Seated comfort” is about how the bike’s geometry and suspension reduce vibration and impact forces transmitted to the rider. In practice, better comfort usually means less fatigue and more consistent control, especially over rough surfaces.
suspension geometry
"so you see things like this inverted fork if you squint you can sort of tell in the rear that you have a high pivot suspension if any of your readers or mountain bikers they'll know that that's kind of like a buzzword right now when it comes to mountain bike suspension"
Suspension geometry is basically how the suspension is shaped and connected on the bike. It matters because it changes how the wheels move over rough ground, which affects comfort and grip.
Suspension geometry describes how suspension linkages, pivot locations, and shock placement affect wheel motion and ride behavior. Small design choices can strongly influence traction, comfort, and how the bike responds under braking, cornering, and bumps.
inverted fork
"so you see things like this inverted fork if you squint you can sort of tell in the rear that you have a high pivot suspension"
An inverted fork is a type of front suspension on a bike. The parts are arranged so the moving section is supported in a way that can make the bike feel more stable and precise over bumps.
An inverted fork is a front suspension design where the thicker fork tubes are mounted to the bike’s crown, and the thinner stanchions move up and down. It’s used to improve stiffness and steering precision, which can help on rough trails.
high pivot suspension
"in the rear that you have a high pivot suspension if any of your readers or mountain bikers they'll know that that's kind of like a buzzword right now when it comes to mountain bike suspension"
High pivot suspension is a rear suspension setup where the main hinge point sits higher on the bike frame. That changes how the rear wheel moves over bumps, which can help the bike stay planted on the trail.
High pivot suspension refers to a rear suspension layout where the pivot point is positioned higher on the frame. This geometry can change how the suspension moves through its travel, often aiming for better traction and a more controlled feel.
wheel base
"and the wheel base by the way is pretty similar to like a modern trail bike"
Wheelbase is how far apart the front and back wheels are. If it’s longer, the bike feels steadier; if it’s shorter, it can feel quicker to turn.
Wheelbase is the distance between the front and rear wheel contact points. A longer wheelbase generally improves stability, while a shorter one can make a bike feel more agile.
120 millimeters
"it does have this upside that you can do some of those mountain bike rides 120 millimeters is 4.7 inches almost 5 inches of travel"
That “120 millimeters” number is how much the suspension can move up and down. More movement usually means the bike can handle bigger bumps more comfortably.
“120 millimeters” refers to suspension travel—how much the suspension can compress and rebound. More travel usually helps absorb bigger bumps and improves control on rough trails.
air suspension
"...both the front and rear suspension our air suspension so if you know you're going to hit a lot of jumps..."
Air suspension uses air pressure to help the bike soak up bumps. Because it’s adjustable, it can feel softer or firmer depending on what you’re riding over.
Air suspension uses compressed air in the suspension units instead of steel springs. It can be tuned to change ride height and how the bike absorbs bumps, which matters when you’re hitting jumps.
Rivian pickup truck
"does it fit in the back of a Rivian pickup truck hell yeah cool you better believe that was the first pickup truck that we tested"
They’re checking if the e-bike can fit in the back of a Rivian pickup without making a big mess. It’s basically a “can you load it easily?” question for everyday use.
The hosts are talking about whether an e-bike can be loaded into the bed of a Rivian pickup truck. This is about real-world cargo practicality—how the bike fits, and whether you need to disassemble anything to transport it safely.
Rivian SUV
"does it fit in the back of a Rivian SUV yes without taking the wheel off uh you take the top it depends how you want to fit it in there but you don't have to take the wheel off now"
They’re asking if you can put the e-bike inside a Rivian SUV. The big convenience win is not having to take the wheel off, and possibly using the roof opening to make loading easier.
The discussion shifts to whether the e-bike fits inside a Rivian SUV. The key point is the loading method—using the roof/top removal (or not) and whether the bike can be positioned without taking the wheel off.
loading an e-bike without taking the wheel off
"yes without taking the wheel off uh you take the top it depends how you want to fit it in there but you don't have to take the wheel off now"
This is about “tool-free” or low-disassembly transport: fitting a bulky bike through a vehicle opening while keeping the wheels intact. It matters because bikes are heavy and awkward, and removing wheels can be time-consuming and increases the chance of damage or losing parts.
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