Rivian Built an E-Bike?! 100-Mile Range & No Chain (Also TM-B First Ride)
About this episode
Rivian spin-off also introduces the TMB (Transcendent Mobility Bicycle) at Rivian’s Venice hub, pitching an “automotive-grade” e-bike experience built around pedal-by-wire and a series-hybrid drive (no chain, belt to a motor). Guests ride it and praise how natural it feels—especially uphill—plus quick, intuitive acceleration. The team details the battery (R1 cell type, ~800 Wh for up to 100 miles), modular “top frame” swapping, built-in security, optional subscription for anti-theft alerts, and safety features like biomotion lighting and regen/mechanical braking. A future TMQ quad is teased for last-mile logistics.
MotorTrend’s The InEVitable goes hands-on with one of the most interesting e-bikes ever built — the ALSO. TM-B (Transcendent Mobility Bicycle), born from Rivian’s skunkworks. We talk with ALSO's Director of Product Line, Saul Leiken about what makes this bike unique. This isn’t your typical e-bike. With pedal-by-wire tech, no chain, regenerative braking, and automotive-grade battery tech, the TMB blurs the line between bicycle and EV.
final mile
"our podcast about the future of cars, the future of mobility, the future of transportation, the future of the final mile."
The “final mile” is the last part of a trip—getting to the exact place you need to go. It’s important because that short distance is where delivery and local travel tools really have to be practical.
“Final mile” refers to the last leg of transportation—typically the short distance from a depot or transit point to where a person or package actually needs to go. It’s a key area for new mobility solutions because it demands convenience, efficiency, and easy maneuvering.
Rivian Hub in Venice, California
"We are here at the Rivian Hub in Venice, California with a product called Also, and Ed's going to tell you a little bit about it."
They’re recording at Rivian’s place in Venice, California. It’s basically the backdrop for the product introduction.
This is the physical setting for the product reveal/first look. Listeners can treat it as a segment marker for the “we’re at the venue, here’s what’s being shown” portion of the episode.
Also
"we are going to have the head of product for Also, that's the manufacturer. Come on and give us a walk around, and then we are going to go for a ride."
Also is the company that makes the e-bike they’re going to ride. The hosts say it started from Rivian, so it’s connected to the EV maker.
Also is described as the manufacturer of the e-bike the hosts are about to ride. The segment frames Also as a company spun out of Rivian, which helps explain why their e-bike tech and design may share resources or engineering DNA with Rivian.
Stunk Works project
"Absolutely. Also was born from Rivian a little over a year ago. We started as kind of a Stunk Works project"
A “Skunk Works” project is like a small team working on a risky idea. It’s meant to move fast and try something new before it becomes a real product.
A “Skunk Works” project is a small, highly focused team working on experimental or breakthrough products, often with more freedom than a typical corporate program. The host’s wording suggests Also began as an experimental effort before becoming a more formal company.
TMB
"And we decided to start with an electric bike. This is the TMB, or the Transcendent Mobility Bicycle."
The TMB is Rivian’s electric bike. The big claim is that it’s built more like a car than a typical bicycle—focused on the overall experience and durability.
The TMB, or Transcendent Mobility Bicycle, is Rivian’s electric bicycle concept built with an automotive mindset. The key idea is that it’s designed like a vehicle first, with bike-like recreation as the secondary goal.
vehicle first, recreational device second
"that was really designed as a vehicle first and a really awesome recreational device second."
They’re saying the bike is designed to be a real way to get around, not just something for fun. That usually means it’s built sturdier and more thoughtfully engineered.
This phrase describes a design philosophy: treat the bicycle as a real mobility product (with durability, systems integration, and user experience) rather than just a recreational gadget. It implies higher-grade components and engineering choices borrowed from automotive design.
portal display
"The experience you get on here for everything from our portal display, which is very similar to having like a heads up infotainment screen in your Rivian."
The portal display is basically a screen you look at while riding. They’re comparing it to the kind of screen experience you get in a Rivian car.
A “portal display” is a dashboard-style screen interface, positioned to be easy to see while riding. Here, the hosts compare it to a heads-up infotainment screen in a Rivian vehicle, emphasizing that the bike uses automotive-grade UI and hardware.
heads up infotainment screen
"from our portal display, which is very similar to having like a heads up infotainment screen in your Rivian."
It’s a screen that’s meant to be easier to see without taking your eyes off the road. The goal is to make information feel more “in your line of sight.”
A heads-up infotainment screen is a display designed to keep your attention forward while still providing information. In cars, this often means the screen is positioned and designed for quick glance readability, reducing the need to look down.
vehicle grade
"That is vehicle grade. The durability of this is vehicle grade."
“Vehicle grade” means the parts are built to last like they would in a car, not like cheap bike accessories. It’s about sturdiness and reliability over time.
“Vehicle grade” implies components built to automotive standards for durability, temperature range, vibration resistance, and long-term reliability. The speaker uses it to contrast this bike’s electronics and materials with typical consumer bicycle hardware.
dream ride propulsion system
"And of course, our dream ride propulsion system and the battery that powers it are also all automotive grade."
The propulsion system is the electric power that makes the bike move. They’re saying it’s designed to feel great to ride, not just to “work.”
A propulsion system is the electric drive hardware that provides motion—typically including the motor and its control electronics. Calling it a “dream ride” system suggests Rivian is positioning the bike’s powertrain as a core part of the riding experience, not just an add-on motor.
battery that powers it
"our dream ride propulsion system and the battery that powers it are also all automotive grade."
The battery is what stores the electricity for the motor. They’re implying it’s built to car-like standards so it should be safer and last longer.
The battery is the energy storage that powers the electric drive, and in an automotive-grade context it implies attention to safety, thermal management, and durability. The speaker ties it to “automotive grade,” suggesting higher engineering standards than many consumer e-bikes.
front suspension
"If you squint, you can sort of see a mountain bike, right? Cause you can see a front suspension."
Front suspension is the part of a bike that helps soak up bumps in the front wheel. It can make the ride smoother and help the tires stay in contact with the ground.
Front suspension is the suspension system on the front wheel that absorbs bumps and helps maintain tire contact with the road/trail. On bikes, good suspension can improve comfort and traction without necessarily making the ride feel slow.
rear suspension
"You can see a front suspension. You can see a rear suspension."
Rear suspension is the bike’s back shock/absorber. It helps smooth out bumps so the back wheel doesn’t bounce as much.
Rear suspension is the suspension system on the back wheel that absorbs impacts and helps keep traction. In this segment, the hosts argue that suspension doesn’t have to mean a slower, mushier ride—if it’s tuned well, it can still feel quick.
series hybrid
"thanks to DreamRide's series hybrid pedal by wire system"
In a series hybrid, your pedaling mainly helps generate electricity, and a motor uses that electricity to move the bike. That can make the assist feel more consistent and “tuned” to your effort.
A series hybrid means the pedals drive a generator (or power source), and an electric motor provides propulsion—rather than the drivetrain mechanically sending power directly to the wheels. This architecture can let the system optimize how it converts pedaling into electric power for smoother, controllable assist.
pedal by wire
"So it's pedal by wire? [250.4s] It's pedal by wire, which means that instead of having a mechanical connection, right, most bikes have a chain that connects somewhere around here with the rear wheel."
“Pedal by wire” means when you push the pedals, it doesn’t directly turn the rear wheel with a chain. Sensors read what you’re doing and send signals to a motor that moves the bike. It also lets the bike manage power more flexibly.
“Pedal by wire” means the pedals aren’t mechanically linked to the rear wheel. Instead, your pedaling is sensed and translated into electrical commands that control a motor driving the wheel. This is similar in concept to drive-by-wire systems in cars, but applied to bicycle pedaling.
no chain
"Well, as you can see on the TMB, there is no chain [262.0s] and the belt that does drive the rear wheel is not connected directly to the pedals."
“No chain” means the bike isn’t using the usual chain that connects the pedals to the back wheel. Instead, it uses a different way to transmit power to the rear wheel. That can change maintenance and how the bike is built.
“No chain” indicates the bike’s rear-wheel drive doesn’t use a traditional chain-and-sprocket connection. The transcript also contrasts this with a belt-driven rear wheel, which reduces some maintenance and packaging constraints. It’s an important design choice because it changes how power is transmitted and how the drivetrain can be packaged.
belt drive
"Well, as you can see on the TMB, there is no chain [262.0s] and the belt that does drive the rear wheel is not connected directly to the pedals."
A belt drive uses a belt to move power to the rear wheel instead of a chain. Belts are usually quieter and don’t need oil like chains do. In this bike, the belt is powered by a motor, not directly by your pedaling.
A “belt drive” uses a toothed or friction belt to transmit power to the rear wheel instead of a metal chain. Belts are often quieter and can require less lubrication, but they still need correct tension and can wear depending on alignment and conditions. In this design, the belt is driven by a motor rather than directly by the pedals.
drive motor
"[266.7s] It's connected to a motor up here. [269.2s] And what you're pedaling is actually a generator. [273.0s] It sends an electrical signal first to this motor up here to tell that motor how to behave and how to spin that rear wheel."
The drive motor is the electric motor that turns the rear wheel. It receives signals based on how you’re pedaling, then it decides how fast to spin the wheel. So your pedaling tells the motor what to do.
The “drive motor” is the electric motor that actually spins the rear wheel in response to the pedal-by-wire signals. The transcript explains that the generator sends electrical signals to the motor so it can control how the wheel spins. This is the core of the bike’s electric propulsion control loop.
generator
"And what you're pedaling is actually a generator. [271.4s] And that generator has two jobs. [273.0s] It sends an electrical signal first to this motor up here to tell that motor how to behave and how to spin that rear wheel."
A generator turns your pedaling into electricity. Instead of using a chain to spin the wheel, the bike uses that electricity to run the motor. It can also store some of that energy in the battery.
Here, the “generator” is the device that converts your pedaling motion into electrical energy. That electricity is then used to control the drive motor and to recharge the battery. This is the key bridge between human effort and electric propulsion in the described system.
traction motor
"And then what we call the traction motor up here is motor number three."
An electric traction motor is the part that makes the bike move. It uses electricity to spin the wheel and help you go faster or up hills.
A traction motor is the electric motor that actually provides driving force to move the vehicle. In an e-bike, it’s what turns electrical energy into wheel torque for acceleration and climbing.
Rivian R1
"This battery here contains the very same cell type that is in the R1 just to my left."
Rivian’s R1 is one of their electric vehicles. They’re saying the e-bike uses the same kind of battery cells as the R1, so it’s not a random, one-off battery design.
The Rivian R1 is Rivian’s electric vehicle platform referenced here as a benchmark for battery cell technology. The hosts are saying the e-bike battery uses the same type of cells as the Rivian R1, which can matter for performance consistency and manufacturing scale.
battery cell type
"This battery here contains the very same cell type that is in the R1 just to my left."
A battery is made of smaller units called cells. “Cell type” means the specific kind of battery chemistry/design, and using the same type can make the battery cheaper and more predictable.
“Cell type” refers to the specific chemistry and design of the individual battery units inside a pack. Using the same cell type across products can improve cost, supply, and expected performance characteristics.
cost benefit
"One is that we get to benefit from everything that Rivian does with those cells. One of that of course is a cost benefit."
Cost benefit means the battery can be cheaper because they’re buying/using a lot of the same parts. Making more of the same cells usually reduces the price.
A “cost benefit” here is about economies of scale—buying and producing large volumes of battery cells lowers per-unit cost. The hosts connect that to Rivian’s ability to leverage its cell supply across multiple products.
cells
"There's famous for 7,777 cells. This battery has about 40 cells in it."
Cells are the building blocks inside a battery. More cells usually means more total energy capacity, but the exact number depends on what the device needs.
Battery “cells” are the individual electrochemical units that are packaged together to form a complete battery pack. The discussion contrasts the large number of cells in the Rivian R1 with the smaller count in the e-bike pack to illustrate how pack design scales with application.
economies of scale
"So you can just get a sense of the economies of scale there and how when we can benefit from that purchase we can come with a much more cost competitive battery than anyone on the market."
Economies of scale is when making more of something makes each one cheaper. For batteries, buying and producing in bigger quantities can lower the cost per battery.
Economies of scale means spreading fixed costs (like manufacturing setup and supply contracts) over a larger number of units. In EV batteries, larger orders can reduce per-unit costs and improve pricing.
battery cell utilization / getting more out of each cell
"Rivian cells actually get more out of each cell than that same cell put into another car... you can get more voltage on a given cell... operate that cell at a higher or lower temperature... and still preserve the warranty."
They’re talking about how you can squeeze more useful performance out of the same battery cells. The key is doing it in a controlled way so the battery still lasts long enough to meet the warranty.
The hosts are describing how a battery maker can extract more usable performance from the same type of cell by tuning how it’s used in the pack. That can include operating voltage and temperature ranges while still meeting warranty expectations.
voltage
"you can get more voltage on a given cell..."
Voltage is basically how strong the battery’s electrical “push” is. They’re saying Rivian can set things up so the battery can deliver more power without harming it too quickly.
Voltage is the electrical potential the battery cell provides to the system. The segment suggests Rivian can run cells at different voltage levels to increase usable output while managing heat and degradation.
temperature
"you can operate that cell at a higher or lower temperature... and still preserve the warranty."
Battery temperature matters because heat can wear batteries out faster. They’re saying Rivian can manage temperature so the battery still meets warranty expectations.
Battery temperature strongly affects how fast cells age and how safely they can operate. The hosts mention operating at higher or lower temperatures while still preserving warranty coverage, implying thermal management and conservative limits.
warranty
"different things like that and still preserve the warranty, that's the important part."
A warranty is the guarantee that if something fails or degrades too much, the company will cover it. They’re saying Rivian can push the battery harder as long as it still stays within what the warranty allows.
A battery warranty is the manufacturer’s promise about expected performance and failure coverage over time or mileage. Here, the important point is that higher performance/usage is only acceptable if it doesn’t increase degradation beyond what the warranty allows.
e-bike battery energy vs range tradeoff
"...for the same watt hours... you get more range and more performance out of our battery than you would of an equivalently sized battery from another company."
It’s not only about how big the battery is. Two batteries with the same energy can still go different distances if one delivers power more efficiently.
The hosts explain that for the same battery energy (watt-hours), a more efficient battery system can deliver more usable range and performance. This is about how effectively the battery’s energy is converted into motor power, not just raw capacity.
watt hours
"...which is how you measure e-bike batteries instead of kilowatt hours, like you measure a car, for the same watt hours you get more range..."
Watt-hours tell you how much energy is stored in the battery. More watt-hours usually means you can ride farther, assuming the bike uses power at a similar rate.
Watt-hours (Wh) is an energy rating for batteries. For e-bikes, it’s commonly used to estimate how much total energy the battery can deliver to the motor over time, which strongly affects range.
100 miles of range
"Let's just do a quick rundown of the specs... It's a hundred miles of range out of this battery... this battery is about 800 watt hours..."
Range is how far the e-bike can go before the battery runs out. It depends on battery size and how much power the motor needs, so real-world results can vary.
“Range” is the estimated distance the e-bike can travel on a full battery charge under certain conditions. The episode ties the claimed 100-mile range to the battery’s energy capacity (about 800 watt-hours) and how efficiently it delivers power.
motor assist
"Top speed of motor assist is 28 miles an hour, but if you're really strong, you can pedal past that."
Motor assist is the electric help the bike gives you while you pedal. It usually stops helping at a certain speed, but you can still keep pedaling faster under your own power.
Motor assist refers to how an e-bike’s electric motor helps the rider, typically up to a legal or programmed speed limit. In this segment, the bike’s assist tops out at 28 mph, but the rider can still pedal faster.
28 miles an hour
"Top speed of motor assist is 28 miles an hour, but if you're really strong, you can pedal past that."
28 mph is the maximum speed at which the bike’s motor assist provides power in this configuration. It’s a key spec because it affects how quickly you can travel while still relying on electric assistance.
80 pounds
"...how much does the bike weigh? This configuration of it weighs just about 80 pounds. Okay. But crucially, you can actually drop a lot of weight off it very easily."
Bike weight matters for handling, acceleration, and especially for carrying or lifting the bike. The segment also notes that the weight can be reduced by removing components, which can make the bike more practical day-to-day.
power bank
"It's actually a power bank. It's USB-C. Take it on the plane?"
A power bank is basically a battery you can use to charge your phone. Here, the e-bike’s battery can also power your phone through a USB connection.
A power bank is a portable battery pack that can charge other devices. In this context, the e-bike’s battery can also act like a USB-C charger for a phone, which is handy for travel.
USB-C
"It's actually a power bank. It's USB-C. Take it on the plane?"
USB-C is the common plug shape used for charging phones and other gadgets. They’re saying the bike has USB-C ports built in so you can charge your phone easily.
USB-C is a modern charging/data connector used by many phones and accessories. The hosts are pointing out that the e-bike battery includes USB-C ports so you can charge devices directly without extra adapters.
top frame
"So also so innovative, we invented a whole new bike part. This is called the top frame. Most bikes, in fact, every other bike on the market"
The top frame is part of the bike’s main structure near the top. They’re saying they designed a new frame piece to fit the e-bike’s battery and make the bike work better.
A “top frame” is a structural design element of the bicycle frame, and here it’s described as a new, proprietary part. The idea is that Rivian’s e-bike packaging and battery integration may require a different frame geometry than conventional bikes.
seat tube
"[494.8s] This piece is typically known as the seat tube. [497.4s] This is known as the seat post."
The seat tube is the part of a bike frame that sets where the seat goes. Your seat post slides into it so you can adjust how high you sit.
On a bicycle frame, the seat tube is the angled tube that holds the seat height. It’s where the seat post slides in and is a key part of how the bike’s geometry fits you.
seat post
"[497.4s] This is known as the seat post. [498.8s] These are usually welded in part of a frame, right?"
The seat post is the part that lets you move the seat up or down. It helps you get comfortable and reach the pedals correctly.
The seat post is the adjustable post that raises or lowers the saddle. On many frames it’s inserted into the seat tube, and the fit affects comfort and pedaling position.
DreamRaw
"[520.9s] So the parts of DreamRaw and the battery, [522.8s] we were just talking about, they're all down here. [524.9s] That is what's part of what we call our skateboard."
DreamRaw sounds like the name of their e-bike platform or frame design. They’re talking about it in the same breath as the battery and the low-mounted layout.
DreamRaw appears to be the product/platform name they’re using for the e-bike’s frame/architecture. It’s mentioned alongside the battery and “skateboard” layout, suggesting it’s part of how the bike is built.
skateboard
"[520.9s] So the parts of DreamRaw and the battery, [522.8s] we were just talking about, they're all down here. [524.9s] That is what's part of what we call our skateboard."
They’re calling the battery/electronics area a “skateboard” because it’s built like a flat platform low in the bike. That can help the bike feel balanced and easier to ride.
In e-bike design, a “skateboard” layout usually means the battery and key electronics are packaged low and flat in the frame area, similar to a skateboard deck. This can improve weight distribution and make the bike feel more stable.
throttle
"And another for a rider who's maybe a little more moto oriented, is not as excited about pedaling, wants to use our throttle."
On an e-bike, the throttle is like a power switch you control with your hand. It tells the motor how hard to push, so you don’t have to pedal as much.
A throttle is the control that tells the electric motor how much power to deliver. On an e-bike, it lets you move without pedaling as much (or at all, depending on the bike’s design and local rules).
banana seat
"Got a good banana seat. Exactly right."
A banana seat is the long, curved seat shape you might see on classic-style bikes. It’s usually more comfortable for sitting in one position.
A banana seat is a long, curved bicycle seat commonly associated with vintage-style bikes. On an e-bike, it’s often chosen for comfort and a more “moto-inspired” riding posture.
drop it right on like a ski boot
"you can just drop it right on like a ski boot, drop it in."
This describes a quick-mount or snap-in attachment method for the bike’s top frame/seat module. The “ski boot” comparison suggests a secure, easy-to-engage connection that can be removed and reinstalled quickly.
rear light
"You also saw I got some power back here. This is a rear light."
A rear light is the light at the back of the bike so other people can see you. It can also include extra signaling like turn indicators.
A rear light is the bike’s visibility and safety lighting at the back, typically including a brake light or running light function. The segment also mentions turn signals, implying the rear lighting is part of a more complete signaling system.
turn signals
"Also features turn signals actually I should show on this side."
Turn signals are the lights that blink when you’re turning. They help cars and pedestrians know where you’re going.
Turn signals are electronic indicators that communicate your intended direction to other road users. On e-bikes, they’re often integrated into the rear lighting and may be controlled from the handlebars.
sense pins
"And all these top frames have sense pins in them."
“Sense pins” sound like little connectors that tell the bike when a part is attached correctly. That helps the bike work safely and reliably after you swap modules.
“Sense pins” likely refer to electrical contacts or sensors used to detect when a frame module is properly installed. This would let the bike power up or enable functions only when the attachment is secure.
key-based personalization
"[603.2s] So just like you and your partner [605.0s] might have two different keys to your Rivian [606.7s] and your seat will auto adjust for you when you get in. [614.3s] And when you drop this on, [616.2s] all of your settings will preload onto the key."
Key-based personalization means the car remembers your preferences and loads them when it recognizes your key. So you don’t have to adjust everything every time you drive.
Key-based personalization is when a vehicle stores driver preferences (seat position, ride mode, and other settings) and automatically loads them based on which key fob is detected. This reduces manual setup and helps multiple drivers share the same vehicle comfortably.
auto adjust
"[605.0s] might have two different keys to your Rivian [606.7s] and your seat will auto adjust for you when you get in. [611.1s] The seat won't quite auto adjust"
Auto adjust means the car moves your seat (and sometimes other controls) to your saved position. It uses your key/profile so it knows who you are.
“Auto adjust” refers to power seat and/or steering adjustments that move to a saved position when the car recognizes the driver. In this segment, the seat won’t fully adjust, but it will leave you at the position you’ve chosen, and settings are tied to your key.
ride mode
"[621.8s] So if you have a ride mode you prefer [623.3s] or something like that, [624.2s] it'll automatically go into that."
A ride mode is a setting that changes how the car drives. If you like a certain feel, the car can remember it and switch to that mode when you get in.
A “ride mode” is a selectable driving profile that changes how the vehicle behaves—often including throttle response, steering feel, and sometimes traction/regen behavior. The key point here is that the ride mode you prefer can be saved to your profile and recalled automatically.
haptic feedback
"[670.8s] I like the fact that there's gears, [672.8s] but I'm saying the putting in the haptic feedback, [674.8s] I don't think you actually need that."
Haptic feedback is a kind of “feel it in your hand” notification, usually through vibration. It can confirm actions like shifting or changing modes so you don’t have to look as much.
Haptic feedback is touch-based feedback (like vibrations or force cues) that helps you feel what the bike or interface is doing. On vehicles and e-bikes, it’s often used to confirm inputs such as gear changes or assist modes without relying only on visuals.
electric motorcycle (no pedals)
"I have one that's like more of a motorcycle that doesn't have pedals. That was the cake bike? Yeah. It doesn't have any pedals."
They’re describing an electric two-wheeler that doesn’t have pedals, so it rides more like a scooter or motorcycle. That usually changes how it’s regulated and how you control it.
A motorcycle-like electric vehicle without pedals is typically treated differently than a pedal-assist e-bike, both legally and in how the power is delivered. The host’s “no pedals” description signals a throttle/ride feel closer to a scooter or motorcycle than a bicycle.
Rad Power
"Like a Rad Power? Sauron, I think it's pronounced. Electric?"
Rad Power is a company that makes electric bikes you pedal, but the motor helps you. It’s a common brand people buy for commuting.
Rad Power is a well-known e-bike brand that sells pedal-assist electric bicycles aimed at commuting and everyday riding. Mentioning it helps listeners anchor the conversation around mainstream consumer e-bikes.
Sauron
"Like a Rad Power? Sauron, I think it's pronounced. Electric?"
They’re talking about another electric bike brand besides Rad Power. The exact brand name is a bit unclear in the transcript, but it’s part of their “which e-bikes have you tried?” list.
Sauron appears to be another e-bike brand referenced in the discussion. The hosts are unsure about pronunciation, but the key point is that they’re comparing different electric bike makers.
pedals are connected to the wheel
"But there were, but again, like, it's always explained at the beginning, like they are, the pedals are connected to the wheel."
They’re saying when you pedal, the bike responds in a way that feels directly tied to your pedaling. That matters because it can make the ride feel smoother and more predictable than bikes that mostly use a throttle.
This describes a direct pedal-to-wheel drive feel, where pedaling input is mechanically or electronically translated into wheel motion. It’s a key difference from e-bikes that rely on a separate throttle-only experience, because it affects how “natural” the bike feels when you’re pedaling.
cadence of pedaling
"And all of a sudden, like you're on uphill, but your cadence of pedaling doesn't change, but your speed doesn't go down."
Cadence just means how quickly you’re turning the pedals. They’re saying that even when the hill gets harder, they don’t have to pedal faster to keep going at the same speed.
Cadence is how fast you pedal (typically measured in revolutions per minute). The speaker notes that on an uphill, their cadence stays the same while speed doesn’t drop, implying the bike is maintaining assist effectively as load increases.
e-bike assist maintaining speed on hills
"And all of a sudden, like you're on uphill, but your cadence of pedaling doesn't change, but your speed doesn't go down."
On a hill, a normal bike usually slows down unless you pedal harder. With an e-bike, the motor can add extra help so you can keep your effort and still keep your speed up.
The speaker is describing how an e-bike’s motor assist can compensate for increased gravity load on an incline. When assist ramps up as needed, you can keep a steady pedaling cadence while maintaining speed, which feels different from a non-assisted bike where speed typically drops unless you pedal harder.
automatic gears
"when he was explaining, you do this, you do this, and if pedal speed, automatic gears, I was like, I'm just, what a nightmare. Jump on it just works."
Automatic gears shift for you. Instead of you deciding when to change gears, the bike tries to pick the right one so you don’t have to think about it.
Automatic gears on an e-bike mean the drivetrain shifts without the rider manually selecting gears. In practice, the system uses sensors (like speed, pedaling effort, and cadence) to choose the right gear ratio so the bike stays in its efficient range.
electric bike conversion
"I also tried to convert a bike to electric using, I think the company's called Switch, and it had a front wheel hub motor and a battery, and it was terrible."
An electric bike conversion means turning a regular bike into an e-bike by adding a motor and battery. The “feel” depends on how well the system is set up, not just on having a motor.
An electric bike conversion is when you take a regular bicycle and add an electric motor, battery, and controller. Conversions can work well, but the ride quality depends heavily on sensor/controller tuning and motor placement—so some setups feel seamless while others feel awkward.
Switch
"I also tried to convert a bike to electric using, I think the company's called Switch, and it had a front wheel hub motor and a battery, and it was terrible."
Switch is mentioned as the company behind an electric conversion kit. The idea is you add a motor and battery to a regular bike so it can assist you like an e-bike.
Switch is referenced as a company that makes an electric bike conversion system. In this segment, it’s described as using a front hub motor and a battery, which is a common approach for DIY e-bike upgrades.
front wheel hub motor
"and it had a front wheel hub motor and a battery, and it was terrible. It was the worst."
A front wheel hub motor is a motor inside the front wheel. Instead of helping through the pedals, it pushes the front wheel directly, which can change how the bike accelerates and handles.
A front wheel hub motor is an electric motor built into the front wheel hub. It can feel different from mid-drive systems because it directly drives the wheel, which can affect traction, balance, and how the bike responds when you pedal or change cadence.
pedal sensor
"And this thing, because it had a, it had a pedal sensor and at one position. So every time the sensor passed the, whatever the receiver, it would give you a little pulse of energy."
A pedal sensor is what detects your pedaling so the bike can decide when to add electric help. If the sensor timing is off, the bike can feel jerky or unpredictable.
A pedal sensor (often a cadence or torque sensor) tells the controller when and how much you’re pedaling. In this segment, the pedal-sensor behavior causes odd power pulses, which is why the rider describes the system as unintuitive and unpleasant.
accelerates off the line
"I would say the eeriest thing though is how quickly it accelerates off the line. Because that part is like, that is, I think my wife would be like,"
This is how fast the bike gets going right after you start from a stop. On e-bikes, that initial launch can feel either smooth or startling depending on the motor and control settings.
“Accelerates off the line” refers to how quickly an e-bike launches when you start moving from a stop. Many riders notice this first because it’s where motor control, sensor response, and power limits are most obvious.
auto mode
"Yes, in auto mode. So we tried the auto mode. I switched to manual."
Auto mode is when the bike decides how much help to give you. Instead of you constantly adjusting settings, it tries to match the power to what you’re doing.
“Auto mode” generally means the system automatically selects how much assistance or control input to provide based on sensors (like speed, pedal input, or rider behavior). It’s meant to make the bike feel smooth and require less rider management.
manual mode
"So we tried the auto mode. I switched to manual. I went all the way to 10."
Manual mode means you’re telling the bike what level of performance you want. Instead of the bike guessing, you pick the setting (like a higher or lower assist level).
“Manual mode” implies the rider has direct control over the bike’s performance level rather than letting the system choose automatically. In this segment, the host mentions going “all the way to 10,” suggesting a selectable power/assist level.
sport mode
"He's always like putting in sport mode. And I'm like, you don't need any modes. Just leave it in all purpose... But when I'm running to work, I'll move it into sport mode."
Sport mode is a button or setting that makes the car feel more “eager.” It usually makes acceleration respond faster so the car feels quicker when you press the pedal.
“Sport mode” is a driving setting that changes how a vehicle responds to your inputs. It typically makes throttle response sharper and may adjust steering, traction control, and regenerative braking behavior for a more aggressive feel.
all purpose
"He's always like putting in sport mode... And I'm like, you don't need any modes. Just leave it in all purpose. And it really is perfect... all purpose is totally fine for 99%."
“All purpose” is basically the normal, everyday setting. The point is you don’t need to constantly switch modes—this one works for most situations.
“All purpose” here refers to a general-purpose drive/ride mode that’s meant to be a balanced default. The idea is that most conditions don’t require specialized modes because the vehicle already performs well enough for everyday use.
range anxiety
"But as we talked about on our ride, I'm someone who, even though I'm really in the space, I still have some range anxiety. So I'll ride my TMB probably most of the time on conserve mode or something like that."
Range anxiety is the feeling that your battery might run out before you get where you’re going. It happens because battery life changes depending on how you ride and the conditions.
“Range anxiety” is the worry that you won’t have enough battery to reach your destination. It’s common in EV and e-bike use because real-world range can vary with speed, terrain, temperature, and how aggressively you ride.
conserve mode
"So I'll ride my TMB probably most of the time on conserve mode or something like that. So I make sure I have the range that I need to get where I'm going."
Conserve mode is a setting that helps you go farther on a single charge. It usually makes the vehicle less “power-hungry” so you don’t run out of battery as quickly.
“Conserve mode” is an efficiency-oriented setting meant to extend driving range. On many EVs, it reduces power output and/or changes regenerative braking and climate control so you use less energy.
steering by wire
"it's one thing to engineer similar sensations in throttle by wire or steering by wire and all the criticism,"
Steering-by-wire means the steering wheel doesn’t mechanically connect to the wheels the old way. Instead, sensors and computers translate your steering input into movement.
“Steering by wire” removes the traditional mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the steering mechanism, using sensors and actuators instead. The transcript groups it with throttle-by-wire to discuss how software can create “similar sensations,” but with different feel than mechanical systems.
torque sensor
"Like you rode a bunch of other e-bikes and put like the sensors, the torque sensor and kind of get the feedback."
A torque sensor figures out how hard you’re pushing on the pedals. The bike then uses that info to decide how much help the motor should give you.
A torque sensor measures how much twisting force the rider applies through the pedals. That signal lets the controller deliver motor assistance that matches the rider’s effort, which is critical for making an e-bike feel smooth and “natural.”
torque delivery / acceleration parameters
"to figure out different things like braking forces, pedaling forces, acceleration, all of those different parameters."
They tested how hard you pedal, how braking feels, and how the bike speeds up. Then they use that data to program the bike so it reacts smoothly.
The hosts describe instrumenting bikes to measure forces and performance variables like braking forces, pedaling forces, and acceleration. These parameters are used to tune control algorithms so the bike responds smoothly and predictably.
gear shifting
"So we were hitting this button to change gear and what a gear does was actually happening. The ratio of the rotations per minute of their pedals compared to the rotations per minute of their rear wheel was changing."
Gear shifting is how the bike changes “gearing” so your pedaling matches the speed you’re getting. On e-bikes, it can happen automatically, and the bike may need to make it noticeable so you don’t feel confused.
Gear shifting changes the effective drive ratio between the rider’s pedaling cadence and the rear wheel speed. On an e-bike, this can be software-controlled to keep the ride smooth and efficient, but the rider may not notice it unless the bike provides cues.
auto transmission style
"I ride the TMB almost exclusively in the auto transmission style because I do, the way I primarily use the bike is as a vehicle to get around."
Auto transmission style means the bike chooses the gear for you. Instead of thinking about what gear you’re in, you just pedal and the bike handles the shifting.
“Auto transmission style” on an e-bike means the bike automatically selects the appropriate gear ratio instead of requiring the rider to choose gears manually. This is often designed to reduce rider workload while keeping cadence and power delivery in a comfortable range.
e-bike assist level
"100 miles, you can get 100 miles out of the bike, absolutely. It won't be helping you that much if you're getting 100 miles of range, right? If you want to go all the way up to our assist of 10, then you're looking closer to the 30 miles."
On an e-bike, “assist level” is how strongly the motor helps you when you pedal. If you use the highest help all the time, the battery won’t last as long; if you use low help, you can go farther.
An e-bike’s assist level controls how much electric help the motor provides while you pedal. Higher assist drains the battery faster, so the same bike can have very different real-world range depending on whether you ride at low or high assist.
0 to 100 charge time
"How long does it take to charge a battery? No more than about four hours. We have two different battery sizes, so the larger battery takes a little under four hours to go from 0 to 100."
“0 to 100” means charging the battery from empty to full. The key takeaway is how many hours you need to wait before you can ride again.
“0 to 100” here means charging from empty (0% state of charge) to full (100%). Charging time matters because it determines how practical the bike is for daily use and how often you’ll need access to a charger.
proprietary bike components / proprietary everything
"So, okay. So one of the things that Reddit was like, oh, here comes these tech bros trying to show up cycling and everything on the bike is proprietary."
“Proprietary” means the bike uses special parts that aren’t standard. If those parts break, you may have to go back to the brand for repairs instead of using a local shop or common parts.
The hosts are criticizing the idea that key parts of the bike are proprietary, meaning only the manufacturer (or approved partners) can make replacements or service them. That can limit where you can get repairs and may increase costs over time.
seat bus thing
"You know, this, what do you call this? The seat bus thing. This we call the top frame."
They’re talking about a special part of the bike’s frame/connection system. The important takeaway is that it may not be compatible with normal bike parts or standard repair approaches.
This sounds like a mis-transcription of a bike frame/connection concept—likely referring to a specific structural section or interface where parts connect. The key idea is that the bike uses a dedicated connection system rather than standard mounting.
can't get serviced anywhere / service lock-in
"You just have a bike that you can't get serviced anywhere. Right. Or is it going to be one of these softwares of service providers?"
They’re worried that if the bike is designed in a way that only the brand can fix it, you can’t just take it to any local shop. That can make repairs harder and more expensive.
The discussion highlights a “service lock-in” risk: if a bike is designed so it can’t be serviced by independent shops, owners may be forced to rely on the manufacturer or a limited network. That affects long-term ownership costs, turnaround time, and repair options.
software-based service / subscription pricing for features
"Or is it going to be one of these softwares of service providers? Are they going to charge you per gear? ... If you want two additional speeds, they're going to charge you 100 bucks a month or something."
They’re wondering if the bike’s features might be locked behind an app or subscription. Instead of buying a bike with everything included, you might have to pay monthly to unlock upgrades.
They’re questioning whether the bike’s functionality (e.g., “more speeds” or gear options) will be controlled through software and paid upgrades. This is similar to feature subscriptions, where hardware capability may be “unlocked” later for an ongoing fee.
10 speeds
"Are they going to charge you per gear? Or, you know, like, oh, it's 10 speeds now. If you want two additional speeds..."
“10 speeds” means the bike can shift through ten different gear settings. They’re joking that the bike might charge you to unlock extra gears later.
“10 speeds” refers to the number of gear ratios available on the bike. In this context, the hosts are using it as an example of how the bike’s gearing could be treated like a paid software upgrade rather than a fixed hardware spec.
open source
"And bikes are with some accessory exceptions. They're generally open source. Like everyone's using, I mean, Allen wrench bolts for seat posts and the same kind of quick releases for wheels and chains and wheels are more or less."
They’re saying most bike parts are standardized, so you can usually mix and match brands. That means it’s easier to repair or upgrade your bike without being locked into one company.
In cycling, “open source” is used loosely to mean the bike ecosystem uses widely standardized parts and interfaces. That makes it easier for riders to swap components from different brands without proprietary tools or compatibility issues.
quick releases
"Like everyone's using, I mean, Allen wrench bolts for seat posts and the same kind of quick releases for wheels and chains and wheels are more or less."
Quick releases are the levers that let you take a wheel off quickly. Instead of using tools, you flip a lever to loosen and tighten the wheel.
Quick releases are lever-style clamping mechanisms that let you remove and reinstall wheels without tools. On bikes, they’re common for fast wheel changes and easier maintenance.
Allen wrench bolts
"Like everyone's using, I mean, Allen wrench bolts for seat posts and the same kind of quick releases for wheels and chains and wheels are more or less."
An Allen wrench is the small hex key tool. These bolts are used so you can adjust parts like the seat without special equipment.
Allen wrench bolts (hex bolts) are common fasteners on bikes, especially for seat posts and other adjusters. They’re a standard hardware approach that makes adjustments and repairs straightforward.
29 inch mountain bikes
"Although, I guess, lately in the last 20 years, there's been a proliferation of wheel sizes, like 29 inch mountain bikes. And I think it used to be everything was like 26 inch and everything's like, you can ride whatever kind of wheel you want, more or less."
29-inch means the bike’s wheels are bigger than older common sizes. Bigger wheels can help the bike roll over bumps more easily.
“29-inch” refers to the wheel diameter used on many modern mountain bikes. Larger wheels can roll over obstacles more easily and may feel smoother over rough terrain, but they also reflect how the industry has diversified wheel standards.
proprietary vs standardized bike parts
"But to address it directly, what I'll say is that the things that we've decided that we can really impact in a meaningful way, and what other people might call proprietary, are the things that we know are the most ripe for innovation and need the biggest changes when it comes to the bike."
They’re talking about whether a bike uses parts that only one brand makes, or parts that many brands share. Standard parts are easier to replace; proprietary parts can be better in some ways but may be harder to service.
The speaker contrasts “proprietary” components (unique to one company) with standardized, widely compatible parts. The idea is that proprietary designs can enable innovation, but standardized parts reduce friction for repairs and upgrades.
flat tire
"So, you mentioned tires, for example. Tires, I think for most people, are the thing that most commonly fails on their bike, right? They get a flat tire, that happens."
A flat tire is when your bike tire loses air because of a puncture. It’s common, and it’s why having replacement tires that are easy to find is important.
A flat tire is a puncture or loss of air pressure that prevents the tire from holding proper shape and traction. It’s one of the most common bike failures, so tire availability and easy replacement matter a lot for rider experience.
tire size
"We very deliberately expect tires in a size that are very easily replaceable. So we will carry a lot of stock of them, you'll be able to get replacements from us, but you won't have to get replacements from us."
Tire size is the exact dimensions of the tire that will fit your bike. If the size is common, you can replace it quickly at most bike shops.
Tire size determines what tires will physically fit the wheel and frame, and it affects ride feel and rolling resistance. The speaker emphasizes choosing a size that’s easy to replace so riders aren’t stuck waiting for specific inventory.
brake pads
"Same goes for brake pads and those different consumables. We do use an Allen wrench to adjust our seat post height, and that seat post and the saddle, right?"
Brake pads are the parts that slow the bike down by pressing against the wheel. They wear out over time, so being able to replace them easily is key.
Brake pads are wearable friction components that gradually thin out and need replacement. The speaker groups them with other “consumables” to highlight that routine maintenance shouldn’t require proprietary parts or special sourcing.
basket or rack
"And then when you want to start adding the different baskets and carry things, ... If you have a basket, the top part of it, the actual basket or rack was attached to the post so you just hot-swap it on."
A basket or rack is an accessory mounted to the bike frame or seat-post area to carry items. The discussion focuses on how the mounting method affects how quickly you can swap carrying setups.
hot-swap
"If you have a basket, the top part of it, the actual basket or rack was attached to the post so you just hot-swap it on."
Hot-swap just means you can change parts quickly. Instead of taking the bike apart, you attach or remove an accessory in seconds using a simple connection.
“Hot-swap” here means quickly attaching or removing accessories without tools or major disassembly. On an e-bike, that’s usually about standardized mounting points so you can change things like racks or baskets fast.
aftermarket
"And then you said you're launching with three, but I imagine A, the aftermarket will get a hold of it."
Aftermarket parts are things made by companies other than the original brand. They’re often designed to fit your bike so you can add accessories beyond what came in the box.
The “aftermarket” refers to third-party companies making accessories or parts that fit a product. In this context, the hosts are discussing whether other brands will make compatible basket/top-frame components.
mechanical connection
"To start with, the answer is definitely no. Largely because there's that very strong mechanical connection to the rest of the bike."
A mechanical connection is how parts physically lock together. The point is that it should be strong and secure, so accessories don’t wobble or fall off.
A “mechanical connection” is the physical way components lock together—like a strong mounting interface that transfers loads and keeps parts secure. The speaker is implying Rivian’s design uses a robust attachment system so accessories don’t feel flimsy or require frequent rework.
Murphy's Law
"And later on, Murphy's Law, I was like, oh, that'll take 10 minutes. It took like two hours and I had to find a thing that wasn't there."
Murphy’s Law means “things will get annoying when you least want them to.” They’re saying that swapping accessories can take way longer than expected if you have to hunt for parts or remove extra pieces.
“Murphy’s Law” is the idea that if something can go wrong or be inconvenient, it will. The speaker uses it to describe how accessory changes can turn into a time sink when parts aren’t where you expect or required pieces are missing.
saddle
"[1706.8s] There's so many out there and I don't know. [1708.8s] What's the price point of a different saddle? [1711.8s] They start at about 250 bucks."
The saddle is just the bike seat. People ask about it because the right one can make riding comfortable instead of painful.
A saddle is the seat on a bike. Different saddles can change comfort a lot, especially for longer rides, because they affect how your weight is supported and how much pressure you feel.
proprietary battery
"[1743.8s] So I hear you on trying to make the stuff that needs help better. [1747.8s] Let's talk about the proprietary battery. [1750.8s] Will that be forever proprietary or do you think you'd open it up"
A proprietary battery is a battery that only works with that bike’s system. That can be convenient, but it can also mean you’re limited to that brand for replacements or upgrades.
A proprietary battery means the battery design/pack is controlled by the manufacturer, so only compatible packs (or specific partners) can be used. That can affect cost, availability, and whether owners can swap or upgrade easily.
swappable battery pack
"[1750.8s] Will that be forever proprietary or do you think you'd open it up [1753.8s] so other people could use this pretty slick, swappable battery pack? [1758.8s] Because it's a thing in Taiwan."
A swappable battery means you can take the battery out and put in a fully charged one fast. Instead of charging for hours, you can swap and keep going—if the system is supported.
A swappable battery pack is designed so you can remove it and replace it quickly with another charged pack, reducing downtime versus waiting to recharge. For electric bikes, this can make longer rides and commuting more practical, but it depends on standardization and availability of extra packs.
battery swapping
"They have a rack of these things on a charger and you have an account. You bring in yours, you scan it, you pull the other one out, put the other one in that one's charges, you get a full battery"
Instead of plugging the battery in to charge, you take it out and put in a fully charged one. It’s meant to be fast—more like stopping for fuel than waiting for charging.
Battery swapping is a system where you exchange a depleted battery for a charged one instead of waiting for charging. The idea is to reduce downtime and make electric two-wheelers feel more like refueling a gas vehicle.
micro-mobility industry
"At the moment, we're not interested in being a supplier to the rest of the micro-mobility industry... there's this big gap in that micro-mobility space right now where we need more vehicles like the TMB."
Micro-mobility is the world of small electric rides like e-bikes and e-scooters. Companies in this space care a lot about convenience—like how batteries are handled—because riders expect quick, easy use.
The micro-mobility industry refers to small, lightweight transportation—typically e-bikes, e-scooters, and related shared or subscription mobility services. It often has different requirements than cars, especially around battery logistics and rider experience.
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