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Alright, here we are.
03:35
Alright, we're back with Arjay Devera. How are you?
03:41
As we're recording this, we're both getting ready for Monterey Car Week, so it's a good time.
03:45
Yeah, getting ready for Monterey Car Week.
03:47
Although, I think by the time people listen to this, Car Week might be over.
03:52
We're going to figure out exactly when this is going to air.
03:56
We've been banking a couple of interviews and shows for Car Week.
04:02
But you and I have known each other a long time.
04:05
I would say maybe 10 years ago, maybe could be 12 or so.
04:12
So we've been doing the podcast 16 years.
04:15
We've been going like MPMC for probably 17, 18 years.
04:19
And probably early on there, you were at McGuire's.
04:22
Yeah, from 2010 on.
04:25
So probably from that time.
04:27
So now we've known each other somewhere in that range, right?
04:31
And now you're VP of marketing at SEMA, the SEMA organization.
04:38
Correct. Not just the show.
04:41
Most people just know just the show, right?
04:43
The trader organization.
04:45
There's a lot going on there.
04:48
So let's touch on that.
04:49
Let's touch on SEMA a little bit and then we'll get into more of how you got there.
04:55
We've been talking, we've had Mike Spagnola on a few times.
04:59
He was talking quite a bit about the legislation stuff that's been,
05:02
they've been pushing through.
05:03
That was high up on his list.
05:05
We've had Tom Katusa on for the past couple of years talking about SEMA fest
05:10
and the SEMA show, how it's involved, certainly grown to West Hall.
05:15
And they've been working on that bridge for a while that you can kind of,
05:18
you can walk across, but the entrance was missing.
05:23
First of all, the SEMA show this year.
05:25
Is the building done?
05:27
Is the central hall open or is it still going to be?
05:30
For this year, most of it will be done.
05:32
There'll still be some construction.
05:34
The next years when it's completely the front side of it will look like West
05:39
Last year, if you remember a center hall, the entrance is missing, right?
05:43
We actually built a separate entrance.
05:45
So most of that will be completed, but they moved down.
05:48
So that area between, let's call it center hall down to the escalators
05:53
that go up to the media center.
05:55
That's really the last final piece that the convention center is redoing.
05:59
So still some construction.
06:01
So we'll lose a little bit of the front display area for feature cars,
06:05
but it'll be much more together than it was last year.
06:07
So you will be able to walk across the bridge from West Hall into north and
06:12
center, and that'll be all completed from what I understand.
06:15
So it's interesting to see as a person that,
06:18
I started going to SEMA show, I think in 97,
06:22
and there was just center and north hall.
06:24
And then you, where all the activations are out front,
06:27
you could park there and there was a tent where you would get your badge,
06:30
so to see it evolve, this will be my 28th SEMA show in a row.
06:34
Over the last 28, almost three decades,
06:37
with the addition of West Hall to your point, it's just insane.
06:40
The amount of space that we take up,
06:43
the amount of vendors that come, the amount of activations and people,
06:47
I mean, from 97 to now, I mean,
06:50
it just kind of blows my mind how the industry's continued to grow
06:55
and to support the event and just to make it a bigger,
06:58
you know, better, you know, coming homecoming, let's call it,
07:02
every year for the whole aftermarket industry.
07:04
It's really cool to see.
07:06
To think that it started in, like, deep in Dodger Stadium.
07:14
Like the initial, I don't know how many years they did it there.
07:16
This will be, I think it's year 57 or 58 somewhere around there.
07:21
I don't know exactly.
07:24
And, you know, started in Dodger Stadium to your point and moved to Anaheim,
07:27
I believe, and then it finally went to Vegas.
07:31
And it really got started by a bunch of mostly hot rod drag racers, right?
07:36
Yeah, you know, when we started the other podcast that we did,
07:40
Shift and Steer, we still do the podcast,
07:42
but we initially started that, Brad Fanshawe and I and Aaron Hagar.
07:45
We started that with Pete Shaporas.
07:49
He was at Pete and Jake's and then was at SoCal Speed Shop.
07:52
And he was like one of the founding members of SEMA.
08:01
Polly Parks, right?
08:02
And I'm pretty sure he was there at the initial, at the very first.
08:09
I don't know what the rules are anymore, but I just,
08:11
because I remember when Pete passed away,
08:14
but it was like, Pete, you're going to the SEMA show.
08:16
And he's like, yeah, SEMA, you know,
08:19
SEMA invites me out and they get me a hotel room.
08:21
A hotel room was like, oh, that's nice.
08:23
How do you get to, how do you get that perk?
08:25
He's like, you kind of have to be like the first SEMA member ever.
08:28
And I was like, oh.
08:30
Founding father, right?
08:32
He's sort of grandfathered in.
08:35
He gets an invitation every year.
08:37
Well, I mean, he did for the longest time.
08:39
So he had a lot of fun telling those stories back in the day.
08:42
So SEMA, we talk a bit.
08:45
I'm a big fan of the aftermarket.
08:47
So we've been talking about SEMA for a long time.
08:49
We've been talking about SEMA every year for quite some time.
08:53
Well, not quite 28 years, but probably 17, 18.
08:58
Yeah, still a good one.
09:01
And knowing it as a trade show.
09:07
I go out and I try to interview a bunch of people that are to
09:10
talk about what's new in the part side of it.
09:12
I always go by the new part showcase.
09:15
Like a big photo gallery of every sports, you know,
09:19
as much as I can that's in there.
09:21
Now it's kind of grown that you can't really get it off.
09:24
But to check that out.
09:28
And the cars that debut there are the cars that are shown there.
09:32
One of the things that we brought up recently was.
09:36
SEMA still is a great place to debut a build.
09:41
But myself included.
09:45
I've had five cars that seem up.
09:48
A lot of the cars are are.
09:52
That are being shown are cars that are being used.
09:56
You're, you know, you're one of the top builders.
09:58
You're debuting something there, but that's evolving as well.
10:01
Now we're seeing like cool cars that are are.
10:05
I don't want to say not perfect because that's not the case.
10:08
It's just they're sort of used.
10:11
They're supposed to be used and then show up at SEMA.
10:16
Before it was just like racing cars, but now it's just like,
10:19
like, for example, I did something with real truck last year.
10:22
And we brought a truck.
10:24
We brought a 22 Ford Lightning.
10:27
And I drive that truck.
10:32
Not quite as big a project as, as what we've built.
10:35
But the idea was to go, let's take a truck that we actually use.
10:40
Let's bolt on a bunch of gear to it and, and, and a few personal
10:44
things we did, you know, Brembo brakes and lowered it and did
10:47
some custom things on it.
10:48
But I, you know, aside from that, I was like, I don't need
10:53
the detail, the undercarriage of this car.
10:55
You know, like this is.
10:58
You know, like it's being driven.
11:00
Like we're going to, you know, drive it there or drive it
11:02
home and get a bit of that.
11:06
So that's one of the things that I think has evolved is
11:09
some of the cars that have been there.
11:12
And as the show's gotten bigger, just been more space to put
11:17
I would, I don't have the data in front of me, but I'm sure the
11:20
number of cars that are there now, now that we have West Hall is
11:23
way more than it's ever been.
11:26
Because you have space in West Hall around West Hall and then
11:29
I would say that, you know, see my show is, is a beat is
11:32
predominantly a B2B trade show, you know, we opened it to
11:35
the public a few years ago on Friday.
11:37
So it's a new element, but for the most part, it's unlike most
11:40
other, let's call it our shows where people compete.
11:45
So there is a competition like battle, the builders and a few
11:48
wars that got get given by the OEs, but really the cars there
11:51
are really meant to showcase the product.
11:55
That the manufacturers are exhibiting in their space or in
11:59
new product showcase to your point.
12:02
New product showcase has grown.
12:04
It's actually moved to South Hall this year.
12:06
And it's one of the first destinations for most attendees to
12:09
figure out what's new and what, what booth did it, do they want
12:13
Beyond that, a lot of the vehicles that do come are the, are
12:16
the vehicles that either a part was prototyped on or, you know,
12:20
some car that went racing with certain parts on or a car that
12:24
was built for some purpose, right?
12:26
To your point, not just to be a show car.
12:29
You know, like one that gets like one that gets rock
12:31
crawled at King of the Hammers, right?
12:34
And it'll come like dusty and, you know, it's not, it's not meant
12:38
to be a, a Riddler contender, you know, and the Riddler being,
12:42
you know, the highest award you can get for hot rod along with
12:45
the, with the Amber award, right?
12:47
And those cars come to like Mike, our CEO just pinged me the
12:50
other day like, Hey, I got it on the Riddler this year.
12:53
Like, you know, let's, let's figure out how we, we can
12:56
connect them with an exhibit to get him a space.
12:58
So that's the, that's the fun of SEMA as you get cars
13:02
and trucks from all different, let's call it walks of life
13:06
And some are, you know, Riddler winners and some are
13:10
competition vehicles and others are just project cars that
13:13
were driven on the street, you know, which is kind of the
13:17
fun part of going to this event where you get to see lots
13:23
And it's really a true reflection of, of everything that's
13:26
in the aftermarket.
13:28
You know, and you, you talked about opening it up to the
13:32
So one of the things we, we've talked about, but I just want
13:34
to remind people, SEMA does offer now individual
13:37
memberships that pretty much anyone can get.
13:40
And separately from that, you can buy a ticket to the SEMA
13:46
So access on Friday.
13:47
I don't know if it's, it's just Friday.
13:49
I don't know if it's the full day.
13:50
Maybe you're limiting how many tickets get sold.
13:53
We did in the beginning.
13:55
So two things that you mentioned, SEMA plus is our
13:58
individual membership program that gets you involved
14:01
into our community offers a lot of benefits.
14:03
There's some discounts on, on some certain brands and
14:06
merchandise, even a discount on SEMA fest and are open
14:11
They open to the public as all day Friday.
14:13
You get access to all the halls that, that the B2B
14:16
people have for the whole week and then all of the
14:20
And then if you choose to stay for SEMA fest and the
14:22
concert and the festival, you can, and you can buy a
14:25
But every year it's grown.
14:27
The open to the public day because I would say the SEMA
14:30
show did such a great job of letting people know that
14:32
she couldn't get in until you were, unless you were
14:35
part of the industry that even when we were selling
14:38
open to the public tickets, people are like, I don't
14:40
understand why you keep promoting this.
14:43
And we, you know, we got, we call it Friday
14:46
We call it Friday enthusiast experience.
14:48
We, we finally just settled.
14:50
We're just going to call it open to the public day.
14:53
Just so it's just like in your face and people
14:55
understand like if the SEMA shows up part of your
14:58
bucket list, you can come, you know, on that day
15:02
and, and get, you know, everything that everyone
15:05
gets for the whole week.
15:06
And then of course you can come for the cars and
15:08
stay for the music and make it a really long
15:12
But that is something that continues to grow for us.
15:15
And a lot of our exhibitors, it's becoming
15:17
more important because a lot of exhibitors are
15:19
starting to do D to C, right?
15:21
So as the marketplace evolves, we, as a
15:24
organization, as a show also evolve.
15:27
Tom, our, our, our show VP says it all the time
15:31
that we're just a reflection of the industry.
15:34
So, you know, five years from now, 10 years from
15:36
now, couldn't the publicly, can the publicly,
15:39
the public, they be more than one day,
15:41
essentially, you know, if that's where the
15:45
And maybe, maybe offer some way of offering
15:50
e-commerce capabilities, you know, like if
15:53
you're opening to the public, you know, maybe
15:57
you're not selling a lot of parts there because
16:00
there's no inventory on the show floor.
16:02
That's a different type of event.
16:04
But, but to be able to go, yes, these are
16:07
parts that are available or some that are
16:10
If you would like it, you know, we'll scan
16:12
it, we'll charge you, we'll set it in the mail
16:14
and by the time you get home, you'll have
16:17
You know, maybe make it a little bit
16:19
transactional in that sense to, on the
16:22
It'd be very different for us, but it could
16:24
be an evolution to your point.
16:26
I think many people are starting to shop
16:29
that way and many manufacturers have
16:31
their own e-commerce website.
16:33
Some could drive to that, some could
16:35
drive to their, you know, their biggest
16:37
distributor who has an e-commerce site
16:40
So there's a shift that will need to
16:42
happen with the exhibitors themselves
16:44
on who's the customer that's walking
16:46
under a booth or are they more of a
16:48
B2B job or wholesaler or are they,
16:50
you know, direct to consumer enthusiasts
16:52
that just wants, you know, to buy something
16:54
and a lot of that kind of is there,
16:57
Because a lot of business and shops have
16:59
their own personal projects, you know,
17:01
they're like, oh, you know what, yeah,
17:03
I'd like your parts, but I have a
17:05
project that's specific to the shop,
17:08
And having a trade show that
17:10
is open to the public, that's
17:12
part of, there's a little
17:14
bit of an obstacle, there's a little
17:16
bit of the growing pains for the
17:18
exhibitors because the exhibitors,
17:20
many of them would say, listen,
17:22
the booth we would build for a trade
17:24
show is different than a booth we
17:26
would build for consumers.
17:28
Like their booth at, let's say
17:30
Barrett Jackson is different
17:34
SEMA or PRI, right?
17:36
And then so now they're going, well,
17:38
how do we do a little bit of both?
17:40
How do we change Friday into
17:42
less of our meetings
17:44
and trade days and more
17:46
into a public day without really
17:48
changing much of the booth,
17:50
you know, or any of it? Like, do they
17:52
even just, you know, change some
17:54
signage or something, you know,
17:58
so there's a little bit of that,
18:00
but I think everyone's
18:02
getting more comfortable with it.
18:04
Yeah, and it's more mindset really, right?
18:06
Because you're really there showing
18:08
new product at the end of the day,
18:10
most times, you know, and I,
18:12
if I put my McGuire's cap on,
18:14
and the SEMA show was one of the things
18:16
that my group ran, it was really
18:18
for us, we look, we use the
18:20
SEMA show as a launchpad to launch
18:22
new items, you know,
18:24
accompanying like McGuire's and a lot
18:26
of brands that sell through a big box
18:28
retailer or an auto
18:30
specialty retailer, like an auto zone
18:32
or advanced auto or Riley.
18:34
They didn't really need to sell at the SEMA show,
18:36
right? Because most of their, they knew what was going to be
18:38
on shelf before, you know,
18:40
they even got to the show. So we really
18:42
used the show as a different
18:46
And much in the same way that an exhibitor
18:48
on a public day, the booth can still
18:50
be the same, but it's what is your
18:52
message, right? Are you doing
18:54
demos? Are you doing samples? Are you talking
18:56
about product and then connecting them
18:58
with the best way for that customer
19:00
to buy that product, right? Whether it's
19:02
through an auto specialty chain,
19:04
whether it's through a summit or a
19:06
Jags or whether it's through a shop
19:08
that, you know, that retails
19:10
like, let's say it's a performance
19:12
part, you know, like an exhaust
19:14
or something or a shock
19:18
So to your point, I think
19:20
some adjustments need to be made,
19:22
especially from the team
19:24
that's in the booth. That's, you know, because
19:26
it's not, we're selling a pallet.
19:28
It's more about like, what's your project
19:30
and what you're interested in and what's
19:32
your challenge and okay, here's some of the
19:34
parts that we offer that make
19:36
sense for that. And here's how you can
19:38
find out more information and or buy it,
19:42
Let's talk about SEMA Fest. What can we look
19:44
forward to with SEMA Fest this year?
19:46
SEMA Fest is on year three.
19:50
the SEMA Show Campus last year, which
19:52
worked out really well. So we
19:54
announced our bands for this year.
19:56
So Queens of the Stone Age, Black
19:58
Crows and Neon Trees. Yeah.
20:00
We've got Optima again doing
20:02
a lot of the motorsports
20:04
activities. We are adding
20:06
more car corrals to give it
20:10
larger taste of automotive culture.
20:12
So we've got some cars
20:14
coming from the show.
20:16
I think some of the battle of the builders cars will be there.
20:20
we're going to have kind of a hypercar exotic
20:24
So quite a bit of it is still forming, but
20:26
we're definitely infusing even more automotive
20:28
into it. So for the people that
20:30
didn't come earlier
20:32
and do the open to the public there
20:34
just coming to SEMA Fest,
20:36
you're getting just as much
20:38
music as there has been
20:42
And then even more motorsports
20:44
and car culture than there was last year.
20:46
So pretty exciting.
20:56
I've said this before on the show.
20:58
When you're doing something
21:02
and something that's
21:08
been doing in the past
21:10
you want to be fair
21:12
and give it a few years to kind of figure out
21:14
how it needs to happen.
21:16
The first year, great bands
21:20
a little more complicated to get to
21:24
second year last year
21:28
much easier to get to
21:30
easier overall just to
21:34
the bands were great
21:38
definitely scaled back on some of the
21:42
to kind of figure out
21:44
a lay of the land and what fits
21:46
and is this the right location
21:48
can we build from here
21:50
and so this year I like
21:54
it's going to be Friday night
21:56
Friday night, same night
21:58
or going to SEMA for the public event
22:00
you go to the SEMA Fest directly after
22:02
you don't come back the next day
22:04
you don't pay for parking twice
22:06
if that's what you're doing
22:08
or Ubering over or whatever like
22:10
you do it all in one day which
22:12
is convenient, way more fun
22:14
definitely makes sense
22:20
are you doing like the car stuff first
22:22
and the bands that night
22:24
the first year try to do like in between
22:26
but then it got dark and you couldn't really figure out
22:28
it'll still be similar
22:30
where the band will go on and the great thing is
22:32
when you shift the stage
22:34
for the next band you have this interval anyway
22:36
and so it's natural
22:38
for the motorsports activity to happen
22:40
at that time so the crowd can go back and forth
22:44
SEMA Fest is starting
22:46
don't quote me on this, 3 or 4 p.m
22:48
which is as the SEMA
22:54
actually happens at the same time
22:56
so you've got multiple things that you can do from this
22:58
let's call it 4 p.m.
23:06
last year the first band was like
23:10
correctly so as the cruise is ending
23:12
you could get to Fest
23:14
and watch the first band
23:16
the automotive activity started a little bit earlier
23:18
for the people that are just coming to Fest
23:20
which is the optimal stuff of course
23:22
so we're trying to find this
23:24
middle ground for people
23:26
as they transition from the show
23:28
to the cruise to Fest
23:30
should they want to do
23:32
any one of those things
23:34
there's just areas a little bit of overlap
23:36
and then I would say around
23:38
6 30 it's really all Fest
23:40
because the cruise is really
23:46
the bigger bands are coming on stage
23:48
and then the motorsports activities
23:50
will be happening in between
23:58
yeah okay and then so
24:00
cmofest.com is the website
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where you can buy the tickets
24:06
and for open to the public because
24:08
you can buy a bundle ticket
24:10
yeah right so that was the thing
24:12
you can buy the different packages
24:14
you can do it all in one location
24:16
just go to cmofest.com
24:20
and also by the way for the bands
24:22
and stuff that you have even if you don't make it
24:24
to the open to the public day
24:26
the bands are great and the prices are fantastic
24:28
like general admission for 70 bucks
24:32
and see the car events are happening in between
24:38
we've been told it's one of the most
24:40
cost efficient tickets in Vegas
24:44
we're looking to make it accessible
24:46
at the end of the day
24:52
it's kind of a closing party
24:54
for everyone that worked all week
24:56
should they choose to stay that night
24:58
and it's really just to shut down
25:00
just a week long of fun
25:02
around cars right so we haven't made it
25:06
to your point concert tickets these days
25:08
aren't the cheapest in the world
25:10
and with us just having three bands
25:12
versus the 22 that we had
25:14
we've been able to keep the ticket prices
25:16
much more reasonable
25:18
I was all in it at year one
25:22
and I was just like
25:24
I want to check it out
25:26
I want to see the thing and I go from one stage
25:30
and we might end up there again
25:32
you know to be quite frank
25:34
but it's tough with the footprint that we have right now
25:38
it was a lot but I was just like
25:40
I'm seeing bands I didn't see
25:46
toward the end of the night I just remember
25:48
just standing there in the crowd
25:54
my girlfriend some friends
25:56
and then it's Bagnola and his family
25:58
they're all standing right next to us
26:02
the bands and they did a great job
26:06
we had some great bands here one
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seeing that tradition on
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going back a bit like you know we talked about you were at
28:50
McGuire's for a long time like 12 years
28:52
or something we're at McGuire's
28:54
but tracing this back to
28:58
you know I don't even want to say
29:00
influencer you were doing stuff on the content
29:02
side and photography before
29:04
then your editors of
29:08
you're building cars
29:10
working in the aftermarket
29:12
quite a bit of a background there
29:14
and then the Fast and Furious stuff
29:16
which I'm not sure everybody knows
29:20
because you started before
29:22
that Fast and Furious is like
29:30
right so it's been a great
29:34
I would say the aftermarket is
29:36
and it really made me who I am as a professional
29:38
going on three decades
29:40
being in this industry
29:44
my very first job was selling
29:46
car covers out of a
29:50
accessory shop in West LA
29:52
that was called Anything Limited
30:02
import that I was modding
30:04
decided to start selling
30:08
out of my mom's condo
30:10
or Japanese import cars
30:16
you know attended the very first import car
30:18
show in LA and was a big proponent
30:20
had a big car crew competed
30:22
did quite a bit of drag racing as well
30:26
and all those things which led to this
30:28
editor job at this magazine called
30:30
Super Street which was Peterson
30:32
publication, Peterson publication
30:34
I remember going out to a NoPy Nationals
30:36
event yeah do you remember NoPy
30:40
yeah NoPy by the way
30:46
so there was the drag racing series
30:48
but they really became known
30:50
they did a big car show
30:52
on the indoor speedway on the infield
30:56
I thought it was about 10,000 cars
30:58
if I remember correctly
31:00
and Super Street would do this tour
31:02
from three different sides
31:04
from Miami from Jersey
31:06
and then from the west
31:08
I think it started in Texas
31:10
and became a really big deal
31:12
I remember being on the tour and it would be like
31:14
a thousand cars deep
31:16
you know if one person pulled over
31:18
like 500 cars would pull over
31:20
and it would be like
31:22
you know kind of showing
31:26
different parts of car culture
31:28
not just in America
31:32
and also it was going in Europe
31:34
and it was all based on
31:36
sport compact cars and Japanese
31:38
imports and whatnot so
31:40
did that for about five years
31:44
paid my way through college
31:46
and then started kind of
31:50
it was so heavily involved
31:52
in that youth car movement at the time
31:54
of this like you know
31:58
which led to the Fast & Furious franchise
32:00
and being one of two consultants
32:04
helping choose the cars and the parts
32:06
you know the cars were the characters
32:08
and the aftermarket parts that they were modded with
32:10
and then got a speaking line
32:12
and I still get residuals now
32:14
just pretty crazy to think
32:16
and then had one of my cars
32:18
that was rented for the first movie
32:20
that then got sold to them
32:22
and was a car in the second movie
32:24
this S2000 that is now pink
32:26
it just made a Lego out of it actually
32:30
with some of the producers
32:32
how did you get involved with the film
32:34
because you were obviously
32:36
you were involved in the import scene
32:40
I don't know if it was the producers
32:42
the initial writers that said
32:44
I mean we need to learn about that
32:48
and you became one of the consultants
32:52
so the story goes and this is a little bit
32:54
before I jumped on was that
32:56
somehow they saw an article
32:58
that talked about import
33:00
drag racing and they bought their rights to it
33:02
and then decided to create
33:04
this movie which is like Point Break
33:06
meets cars so to speak
33:08
and then my boss at the time
33:10
at Peterson one of my bosses was
33:12
Doug Lieberman who ran
33:16
the National Import Racing Association
33:18
that Peterson bought from somebody
33:20
and Craig was running it so they found
33:22
Craig he became a consultant
33:24
and I asked Craig do you know anybody
33:26
that grew up in this scene
33:28
in this room and he's like oh yeah
33:30
I have a little yappy
33:32
20 year old that's the president
33:34
of my car club that I'm a part of
33:36
you should talk to him
33:38
so that's why I met the producer
33:40
Doug Claiborne and the director
33:42
Rob Cohen they actually came to an
33:44
import show and started to ask me
33:46
a bunch of questions about what it was like growing up
33:48
in import car culture
33:50
and you know the import drag racing
33:52
things and whatnot so I was just giving them
33:54
a bunch of information they're like oh you should join
33:58
and be one of our consultants and I was like sure
34:00
you know why not. Yeah listen you got money
34:02
I'll take it. Yeah exactly
34:04
and I actually remember asking them
34:06
like is this movie for real is like going straight
34:08
to DVD and they're like no no no we're gonna
34:10
we're gonna launch it in the movie theater
34:12
and I was like sure buddy
34:14
and then it became what it was
34:16
so it's it's crazy that they're gonna make
34:20
where they're making number 11 or whatever it is
34:22
yeah and your your car
34:24
in the film was the s2000
34:28
correct it was black in the first movie
34:30
and then turned kink into the second
34:32
and then you you you already had that
34:34
car. Correct yeah it was a company car
34:36
you were working with these guys
34:38
they asked what do you have
34:40
what do you drive like what's your car
34:42
and you said let me show it to you
34:44
they're like this is cool
34:46
let us rent it for you we'll make it a hero
34:48
car for our art yeah
34:50
for Johnny Tran's character
34:54
in the film talking about your role
34:56
because your role is actually
35:00
it's comedic relief right it is but it's a
35:02
memorable character right you're the
35:04
kid playing the video games
35:12
was the lead villain's car it wasn't even
35:14
supposed to be that car but we couldn't
35:16
afford the original car that we wanted for
35:18
Johnny Tran which was going to be this full
35:22
m car and we didn't have enough money to
35:24
buy and replicate it so they're like
35:26
Arjun what about your s2000 that looks pretty sinister
35:28
I'm like yeah let's do it you know
35:30
I had a new veilside kid it looked pretty mean
35:32
we ended up being in the film for that
35:34
I had another car in NSX that we were going to use
35:36
for Vin Diesel's character but same thing
35:38
we couldn't afford the extra
35:40
so we ended up with the rx7 for Vin
35:42
but my character Paul Walker
35:44
was actually the one that was like hey RJ
35:46
I just saw you in a gas commercial
35:48
us living in LA you end up
35:50
being in something eventually
35:52
and so I was in this arco gas commercial
35:54
and Paul saw it and he was like
35:56
hey how come you didn't tell anyone you're an actor
35:58
and I'm like oh I'm not an actor
36:00
isn't this you in this gas commercial
36:02
I'm like oh that's like total fluke right
36:04
very LA and he's like
36:06
well you know we're making a movie and I'm like
36:08
well why he's like well
36:10
have Rob give you one of the parts let me call him
36:12
so Paul called the director
36:14
was like hey RJ's you know actually
36:16
an actor and I'm like I'm not an actor and he was like
36:18
RJ like why didn't you tell anyone I thought we were family
36:20
so that's that's how my character
36:22
was given to me Danny Yamano
36:24
character name this is why I still get
36:26
residuals but he's one of the first
36:30
drag race sequence when Paul's trying to
36:32
kind of get Vince trust
36:34
and build credibility I'm one of the
36:38
in that ensemble right so jaw
36:40
rule Paul Walker Vin Diesel and this
36:42
this character that I play Danny Yamano
36:46
a video game in his car before it had raced that's his ritual
36:50
right so you kind of laugh like
36:52
you know and if you knew Gran Turismo you're like
36:54
there's like you suck you're the worst
36:56
Gran Turismo player of all time
36:58
so it was cool and you know I had three lines
37:00
in the script maybe you know an ablib
37:02
part that never made the film
37:04
with jaw rule so it was really
37:06
fun you know and that led to actually
37:08
had an MTV show for a couple seasons
37:10
I'll trick it out where I was the host
37:12
and judge and that was my five seconds
37:14
and my and my 15 seconds of fame
37:18
they rented your car for the
37:20
first film and then the second film
37:22
they bought your car
37:24
and they turned it into the pink
37:26
yeah the pink car that's
37:28
as it sits at the Peterson right now so
37:30
the first movie because the budget
37:32
was let's call it frugal
37:34
all the principal cars were rented
37:38
and then when the movie got so big
37:40
Universal kind of had
37:42
a challenge with some of the owners
37:44
because the owners were like okay well I'm
37:46
gonna rent it here and here and sell it
37:48
and so for the second movie
37:50
of course the budget was a lot bigger they're like
37:52
they're just gonna own everything so
37:56
we had bought a couple S2000s
37:58
for the first movie that we
38:00
stunt cars that we didn't use
38:02
so for the second movie like we have these cars
38:04
let's just use them
38:06
yeah hey we're gonna we're not
38:08
gonna rent any car so they called and said hey
38:10
would you would you like to sell the S2000
38:12
because we're gonna make that a one of the
38:14
you know principal character cars because
38:16
we've got these stunt cars that we're gonna destroy
38:18
which is you know it jumps the bridge
38:20
but really destroyed literally
38:22
so so I was like yeah sure I'm
38:24
willing to sell it you know I painted it twice
38:26
by that time and then
38:28
you know they're like I just painted it when I sold it
38:30
to them this this really great Lambo
38:32
orange pearl color they're like oh come
38:34
back into easy you know we have an idea
38:36
for for what it's gonna be and it came
38:38
back and was pink and had the airbrush
38:40
and whatnot and they're like oh it's
38:42
the big graphics on everything yeah
38:44
so it's it's cool to see that it's
38:46
still alive it's not in the greatest shape
38:48
but it's not gonna ask you
38:50
what they paid but are you happy
38:52
you sold it or do you got selling it
38:54
no I'm sure I would get way more for it now
38:56
I think I we sold it for what
38:58
we paid for it because it was just like we're
39:00
done with a car it was it was a company car
39:02
that I was a partner in
39:04
you know just selling body kits
39:06
and the performance parts
39:08
and we're like yeah we'll make our money back
39:10
you know I think we made a grander too
39:12
so so yeah you know
39:14
you win some you lose some could have what it should have
39:16
but you know it's cool again it's cool to see it
39:18
it's still around it is cool
39:20
to see that it's still around and I glad I'm glad
39:22
to see it it's at the Peterson Museum so it's at a
39:24
place you can go and be viewed it's not hidden
39:28
we've done this on the show a bunch
39:30
of times you know buying and selling
39:32
cars and talking about what you could have like
39:34
yeah anything that we
39:36
we could have held on for
39:38
20 years longer would have been worth a lot
39:40
more money especially today with inflation
39:42
and everything else so it doesn't make a difference
39:44
if it was the right move at the right time
39:46
then then that it's fine you move on
39:48
and yeah careers change
39:50
other projects you know things like that
39:52
and you enjoy the next cars
39:54
right so I did buy an S2000
39:58
two years well three years ago now
40:00
right before I started at SEMA
40:02
I wanted an analog project
40:04
car again yeah and I thought
40:06
about all the cars that I really enjoyed
40:10
you know growing up and the S2 was
40:12
not the car for maybe
40:16
so I was like you know what the pricing on this
40:18
on this on the S2 isn't
40:20
ridiculous it was still fairly accessible
40:22
even though it's been going up so I
40:24
ended up doing a new
40:26
S2000 and the thought in my head is
40:28
how do I build it if fast
40:30
was just coming out now like if number
40:32
one was coming out now so I built it with modern
40:34
day parts and whatnot so it's quite fun
40:40
a while the adventure I'm sure for
40:42
you and now to end up at SEMA like
40:44
think about starting in
40:46
the aftermarket selling parts out of
40:48
your mom's condo to now
40:50
VP of marketing at the
40:52
entire trade organization that
40:54
manages and oversees
40:56
and helps the aftermarket community so
41:02
yeah I would have never thought of it
41:04
too but when I thought about joining
41:06
the organization it felt like I was coming home
41:08
you know because I've been to the show
41:10
in every facet that you mentioned I was a
41:12
photographer I was an editor
41:14
I was a car builder for quite some time
41:16
was helping a bunch of brands
41:18
either develop product or market
41:22
in the sport compact or European
41:26
and then I you know
41:28
work with big brands you know
41:30
small brands was a partner
41:32
in a couple of businesses making parts
41:34
so you name it I was I've
41:38
to be part of the organization and to be able to
41:40
continue to help the industry
41:44
it feels like it ties to
41:46
you know my purpose right
41:50
and companies build better versions of
41:52
themselves so it's a real honor to be here
41:54
I've enjoyed the three years I've
41:56
been here we're going through a lot of change
41:58
which has been quite fun and
42:00
yeah the industry continues to change you know
42:02
there's a lot of things going on as you know both from
42:04
the legislative side and
42:06
and just the cars that are coming out you know
42:08
a big question about propulsion right and
42:10
you know having choice in the future
42:12
of whether you want a synthetic
42:14
fuel car you know regular
42:20
yeah it's really interesting
42:22
I'm super curious to see where we'll be
42:26
what the vehicle choices like
42:28
and what we're able to drive because I think
42:30
the driving dynamics are so different
42:36
a BEV car battery electric vehicle
42:38
versus an ice powered
42:40
or hybrid powered vehicle
42:42
they're all slightly different
42:46
what I think what we spoke about
42:48
here on the podcast quite a bit is
42:50
I think a lot of the obstacle
42:54
the choice being forced
42:56
you know politically
42:58
or whatever but once you take that component
43:00
out of it and go this is just another
43:02
option now you can pick
43:04
do you want gas engine cars
43:06
do you want electric vehicles
43:14
I've got both because I was
43:16
given a choice and I was able to make a choice
43:18
and go what do I want
43:20
what works for me what's convenient
43:26
it kind of levels out
43:28
like here's the lineup of options
43:32
then you can kind of pick and choose
43:34
and if you're lucky enough to have more than one vehicle
43:38
you get to enjoy those options
43:40
so I haven't made the EV jump yet
43:42
on the daily I know a lot of people have
43:44
yeah I have a new truck
43:48
I still have a little bit of range
43:50
anxiety but I think the next daily
43:52
will probably be hybrid or BEV
43:54
so to your point is this opportunity
43:56
if you're lucky enough to have
43:58
more than one car then
44:00
you get to drive different things
44:02
it's like having a truck in a car
44:04
completely different things right
44:06
and now even the propulsion
44:08
and the driving characteristics
44:12
the thing that really woke me up I remember
44:14
I was a friend of mine's let me
44:16
their take on turbo s
44:18
and I couldn't believe how quickly
44:20
accelerated you know and how flat it turned
44:22
because the battery weight was on the bottom
44:24
it was just so different from
44:26
any of the I stuff that I
44:28
and people go turbo supercharged
44:30
NA you know very different
44:34
electric motor propulsion is definitely
44:38
but I really appreciate it after I drove that car
44:40
which is why I'm like okay at some point
44:42
I'm gonna go BEV as well
44:44
when you start looking at
44:50
it gets very interesting because now you're looking at
44:52
oh I think we just lost it
45:00
yeah when we're talking about electrification
45:02
for performance it gets interesting
45:04
when you're looking at some of like
45:06
all in the news now is Corvette
45:10
ZR1 rear wheel drive
45:14
and then go well what if we
45:16
add electric motors
45:20
we've got a little bit more torque
45:22
we've got all wheel drive
45:24
a little bit better torque vectoring
45:28
is it more fuel efficient? Nah
45:32
that's not what you're buying that for
45:34
and it's not a plug-in
45:38
it's also contained
45:40
yeah we're using that electric power
45:44
what would have been gaps before right
45:48
kind of first saw with that first
45:50
effect of LaFerrari
45:54
yeah we saw with NSX
46:00
a little too early huh
46:02
I think that car should have done better
46:04
I think if it came out now
46:08
but I've heard really great things
46:10
and I think if it came out now
46:12
and it's funny that it's discontinued now
46:14
but you know the McLaren's
46:16
the 296 Ferraris out right now
46:18
yeah and it feels like
46:20
oh it was just a little ahead of its time
46:26
we're going to wrap things up
46:28
but I'll see you up
46:30
at car week and we'll see you
46:32
over at SEMA as well
46:34
and I appreciate you guys
46:36
again go to SEMAFest.com
46:38
you can get the tickets there
46:40
you can get the tickets
46:42
to the SEMA show you can get tickets to the SEMAFest
46:44
all the public stuff
46:46
you can get there and check it out
46:48
and if you really are interested
46:50
you can look into the
46:52
individual memberships
47:02
we'll find the memberships there
47:04
thanks for the plugs Matt
47:06
check us in the mail my friend
47:10
you're doing my job for me
47:16
alright guys thanks so much for listening
47:20
keep the air and the spare
47:22
in the bag and the wheel