S&YE219 - Dirt Subies Podcast / Lifted Subarus

This is Ben, and I go by at Lifted Subarus or at Dirt Subis on Instagram.

You're listening to the Subi and you podcast, and this is episode number 219.

Let's frickin' get it.

Hey everybody, welcome to the very first episode of 2026.

As you just heard, I have my buddy Ben, who is the host of the Dirt Subis podcast.

So this is going to be a chat between the two Subaru themed podcast hosts, and we have a

really good time.

It's a long conversation, but hey, that's the way it goes.

So the way that Ben does his podcast is he just kind of goes, you know, off the

hip and doesn't really have any questions for his guests, and typically I do have

questions for my guests.

But this time on this episode with my buddy Ben, we're doing it Dirt Subi style, where

we're not having any questions beforehand, we're just going after it.

So we had a really good conversation and a lot of fun, and I was very, very honored

to have him on and just chat and see what's going on with this guy.

I know we're only a few days in, but I hope everybody is having a good start

to the new year to 2026.

And, you know, if you struggled in 2025, I really hope that 2026 is going to be a much

better year for you.

As you know, I've struggled and others have to, you know, with getting laid off.

So I really hope that some really good, prosperous things come to all of us this

year and that we just have a really good time.

We, you know, able to make things happen financially and we can get out there and

meet more people, get out there and hit some trails and just have a good time.

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Guests that I need to reach out to you because as, as of this point,

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So, but I've got a couple of weeks to get some episodes recorded

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I'm sure I'll have some brands on again this year.

I do want to have some returning guests again and look forward

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Also look forward to Overland Expo and hopefully some more events this year.

So we'll see how this year turns out for me, how, you know,

whether or not I'm able to make it out to events for the first time.

Hopefully we can do that.

And that would be really, really nice because I would love to meet more people.

And this is such a great community.

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Before we get into this conversation with Ben, be sure to go check out

the dirt Subi's podcast and hear what he's got going on over there.

But for now, listen to this podcast and hear what he has to say.

Let's get into it.

So not only do I have been on the podcast, but this is not only is this episode

two nineteen, but this is the first episode of twenty twenty six.

So that was exciting because I messaged you and I said, hey,

because we have been talking about getting you on for months.

And and I'm like, oh, I'll get you on soon.

And I'm like, well, I got somebody else coming up.

I'll get you on soon.

I got to do this overland expo episode.

Oh, I've got, you know, like this brand that I connected with over at

overland expo, I got to get them on.

And and then it just kept kept pushing it and pushing it and pushing it.

And then I was like, OK, you know what?

The way it's lined up now, you'll be my first episode of two thousand

twenty six. Dude, I'm so stoked.

Thank you, man. You're welcome.

Got me pumped.

Well, welcome to the Sue B and you podcast.

It's your turn. Thank you.

Man, this is super rad.

This is an absolute honor.

I know I've told you this in the past, but I just appreciate the heck out

of you, man, you've done a lot for for people.

So it's just cool to be on here.

And it was also rad to have you on my episode.

So absolutely. Yeah.

Thank you, man. This is sick.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's it's been a long time in the making and cool to have the other

Subaru podcaster on here and just talk about all things Subaru and

and we're doing this.

We're doing this dirt, Sue B style.

I have no script.

I have no questions.

So we're just just going to, you know, add lib through the whole thing.

Dude, that's exactly what I wanted.

Let's fricking roll, brother.

I'll let you I'll let you hit me with.

Well, you kind of know what you're typically asking.

I've been doing it long enough, I think I'll let you run it.

So, you know, I got to ask the most important question.

Wallfuls are pancakes, man.

Wallfuls are pancakes.

I am very equal opportunity, but I do prefer pancakes.

Yes. We talked about this a little bit.

But, you know, when I make them, which is rare, dude,

because I try not to like incorporate a ton of carbs into my diet.

Yeah, some of the overweight at the moment.

But but when I cook them, man, I like them crispy.

Oh, yeah. And a little bit

yet rare in the center.

I like them to be a little bit soft inside.

But yeah, dude, pancakes kind of guy over here, brother.

Do you go to a restaurant and say, can I get those medium rare?

Only with my steak. Oh, wait.

No, pancakes.

Yeah, like order pancakes and like, you know, can I get those medium rare?

I've never had anybody ask me how they want their pancakes.

You know what's crazy?

I've literally never had pancakes at a restaurant, not one.

So what's not a man?

Dude, if you come down here, we got to go to Fort Worth.

There's a restaurant called Spiral Diner.

They make vegan pancakes.

But, you know, and the thing is like, you don't eat them and think,

oh, yeah, well, these are vegan pancakes.

I thought they tasted that they taste just like pancakes.

They're just, you know, let's just put that out there

that they taste just like pancakes.

But they have a nice, crispy edge to them.

Dude, the consistency of these pancakes is just like phenomenal.

It's my favorite pancake on the planet.

This place, they're amazing.

I've heard you talk about the Spiral Diner many times

and it's on my list of places to go.

It's so good.

But yeah, so we'll do this.

I mean, we're doing it with no questions, but, you know, I do have questions.

Like, I know you've got a Subaru.

I know you've had several Subarus, but like, how did you get into?

Like, how did you get interested in Subarus in the first place?

Like, where did that come from?

OK, so I'm going to tell you a story, right?

Storytime with Ben.

This is just off the dome, but I was just thinking about this recently.

The first time I ever saw like a Subaru that actually captured my attention

where I was like, oh, this is this is sick.

I was down at a place, if anybody from the Pacific Northwest

that maybe grew up in the, you know, Southwest Washington

or Northwest Oregon area near like Vancouver, Portland.

How is it a place called Lower River Road near Vancouver Lake?

I was a little kid.

Man, this is very specific.

I like it. Very specific, very specific, dude.

And I was down there with my family because at this time I was a young, young kid.

And we were we were using cordless hole punchers, if you know what I mean,

because at the time you were allowed to do that down there.

So we were down there just a little target practice.

And it was also a famous spot for people to do street racing.

You know, it was illegal to street race there.

But yeah, these these two these group of kids with two cars rolled up.

One of them was like one of those OG Dodge Neon SRT fours.

Oh, yeah. And yeah, dude.

And at the time, like those were brand new, you know, yeah.

The other car was a Bug Eye WRX and it was World Rally Blue.

And I remember they were, you know, they were like lining up

and just, you know, doing pulls and, you know, dragging a little bit.

And I remember thinking like, dude, that Subaru sounds sick, looks sick, that's tight.

I just remember that unequal length header sound.

I was like, that is tight.

I need to get one of those when I'm old enough to drive, you know.

Did the Subaru win?

Oh, you know what it did.

It did. I hope so.

And, you know, I wasn't paying too much attention really, you know,

because I was there and I was busy doing other stuff with my family.

But yeah, I just remember that was like that's the moment I remember

actually like seeing Subarus and being like, oh, these are tight.

But again, at that time, I was really young.

Couldn't even drive, you know, at that point.

But then later on down the road, you know, I grew up in the Pacific Northwest.

And it's about as many.

Oh, it's a, it's awful, awful place to live.

But there's about as many Subarus as there is rain

in the Pacific Northwest.

It's like, it doesn't matter where you're at.

You're going to see Subarus.

And so they just were kind of a part of, you know, the culture there anyways.

But yeah, it started snowboarding and it was just like, you know,

commonly understood that if you want a car to get up to Timberline Lodge

or anywhere on Mount Hood with no problems, you need a Subaru.

And so I don't remember.

Maybe like it was probably like 2006, 2005, 2006.

When I really was like, OK, I need to actually try to get one of these cars.

I think I got my first one in like.

2008, 1998 legacy GT sedan.

And, you know, at the time, it was like either the legacy GT

or the two five RS, the Impreza.

Those were like kind of the the flagship cars unless you were going to go up

and, you know, jump into a to a WRX, which those were still considered new at the time.

Yeah. And so that's what I got.

And I just started running that thing and I just couldn't believe like.

Didn't matter, even if I had crap tires on the car,

I could still get up the hill, bro, like no problem.

Yeah, they're the all wheel drive is just insane.

I mean, it's so good.

And yeah, man, I was like, this is really bad.

But I was using summer tires, which is not good, not good at all in the snow.

And I would I just was clueless that driving in the snow was actually dangerous

because of how well the car handled. You know, I was a young kid.

Yeah, everything's fine.

This car is doing great. What's wrong?

No problem. Like, dude, I was like,

smashing corners at like 50 in that thing and looking back at my bro,

I should probably be dead.

But yeah, that was kind of my my introduction to the cars.

And like, just kind of always liked them.

And obviously, the Subaru Rumble was was sick.

Still is to this day.

So how many Subaru's have you owned?

You know, it's funny you ask that because I was thinking about that not too long ago.

I know it's over 20. What? Oh, absolutely.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh, I'm on my first.

I'm just.

Well, the thing is I don't really own like nice cars.

I never financed cars. I've only financed one car ever.

And so it's, you know, it's not like it's nothing to go by like a 15 year old clapped out Subaru, you know.

But still, I mean, even even though you're not, you know,

spending tons of money on like a brand new car just to have owned over 20, that's crazy.

Yeah, I've got kind of a problem.

Like when I like something, I'm like, oh, I'm just going to buy a lot of it

or buy as much of it as I can or get as invested into this thing as I can.

And I think with.

Subaru's, it was like I owned that that legacy GT for a long time.

But then I started to realize that the first gen legacies.

They came in a turbocharged version in the early 90s up until like 94.

And I was like, oh, those are sick.

I didn't even know about these, you know.

And so that kind of became like my holy grail car.

And so I bought one of those.

And so it's not uncommon for me to have like two or three cars at a time.

And that sort of started my addiction with like having multiple Subaru's.

So I would just buy one, have it for a while and then see another one that I wanted.

And I would like sell one of the ones I owned and then buy another one.

It's like, oh, I want to drive a Forester.

Oh, now I want to try like a legacy, you know, like whatever.

How many have you owned all at once?

All at once on paper.

I think the most Subaru's I've had in my possession, all at once is just three.

Okay.

Which isn't a lot, you know, I would probably own more except for at the time,

you know, I was a young college kid like living with my family and stuff.

And my mom probably would have like murdered me if I showed up with another car.

Where are you going to put all these Subaru's?

Yeah.

Well, I'm going to put them in your garden, of course.

No, no, my parents have always been pretty supportive of all the stupid stuff I get into.

But yeah, I knew when it was a little bit too far, you know,

I didn't want to wear out my welcome.

How many do you own now?

Right now, I just own two Subaru's and then, yes, I own a Jeep.

I think most people know that.

Yeah.

Well, you know what?

My wife's got a 2000.

I always mix it up, whether it's an 11 or a 12.

I don't know why this one's so hard for me to figure out, but she's got an outback.

Okay.

And so we have three Subaru's at the house currently.

It is a six-speed manual.

Nice.

It's got the exact same problem that your center div had.

Wait, her outback?

Yeah.

Oh, nice.

Yep.

The, I got a couple of, yeah, I got to pull the thing apart and do it.

I've just never done one before.

And so it's one thing for me to check with a rally Trek because he pulled his out and rebuilt his.

I bought a brand new one.

Yeah.

I've seen people do that.

I will 100% just buy a new one.

Oh, okay.

Gotcha.

It's like, ah, like I'm going to spend an extra six hours in the garage, like not

sure if I did it right or I could just buy the thing already packaged and already redone

the 400 bucks.

I'll sign me up.

Dude.

Yeah.

I think it's relatively easy to switch out.

I would have done it myself if I would have had a place to do it and all that, but

I just had the shop do it because for me it was easier.

But yeah.

So you, you have a, so she has the outback.

You have a forester and then what else do you have?

Yeah.

So I've got, I got a lifted SG forester.

So it's an 06, which in my opinion, like the more I have, the more I have

that car, the more I'm realizing like it is probably like the best bang for the

buck Subaru bar none dude.

But then I also have a legacy and oh five legacy.

So it's still got like the old school exhaust manifold on it that you can easily swap

over to unequal length headers to get the rumble.

Yeah.

I got that legacy.

It's, it's not cool though.

It's not lifted or anything.

It's actually slammed.

So I went the other direction with that.

It's kind of my, my little go cart.

You know, it's funny is it wasn't until fairly, fairly recently I think that I

realized that clapped forester was you.

Oh yeah, dude.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's me.

Yeah.

That's just my, that's just my super, one of my super pages.

Yeah.

Do you have a, do you have a page for the other, for the other one?

No.

Oh, okay.

It's, it's literally just like a clapped out little fart box, you know what I mean?

Gotcha.

Yeah.

Like it's a fun car to drive though.

Like, I mean, I've, I never break speed limits ever, but at 100 miles an hour, it

just was completely planted, you know?

Yeah.

It's got a bunch of like white line suspension parts in the rear end.

I think it's got beefier sway bars and it's on fortune auto coilovers, which kind of

like a mid-tier coilover, but yeah, handles great man.

I love it.

Nice.

So with your forester clapped forester, like where did clapped come from?

Bro, I just, I don't know man.

I, I don't like to use, you'll have to put a beep sound over this, but the

word shit box, I hesitate to use that word publicly because it's vulgar, but

I felt like clapped out was like the next best way to describe it.

An alternative.

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah.

So like all my cars are clapped out, you know, like I just, I had, I actually

bought a brand new 2018 WRX off the lot.

And, you know, I've loved the car.

It was a lot of fun.

Did a few like real, real basic just mods, not for power, but just to tailor

it to my taste.

I remember the first time it got a tiny little ding in it.

I was like, bro, this really makes me angry.

Like, I don't like this anymore.

Like, I have to actually worry about whether or not I ding it.

So now it's like, dude, give me like, I don't want anything newer than

20 years old.

Give me something old school.

Bro, if I can, if I can bang it to trees or, you know, shopping cart

hits it when I'm getting groceries or what, I'll give a fudge man.

Like hit it again.

Yeah.

I mean, like with mine, I have, I was in the parking lot of an HEB,

which is grocery store near here.

I was parked next to where you return the carts and it's got like,

you know, metal tubing to keep it, keep it and keep the carts

in and stuff.

And so there was a car in front of me and then the cart thing,

well, not a car in front of me.

It was like one spot over and these spots are at an angle.

And I've done this many times before where, where I'll just pull

instead of backing out, I'll just pull forward and go in between

the basket thing and the other car because I got, I've got plenty

of room.

And so I just totally misjudged it and I turned a little too

tight and I just hear this scrape all the way down the

passenger side and I'm like, oh my gosh, you complete moron.

Oh, and I was like, and it was late at night.

So I get home and I go out and I look at it and I'm like,

it doesn't even look like anything happened.

And then the, and I think my car was kind of dirty too.

So it was kind of hard to tell too, but I went out the next

day and the day, and the daylight and saw it.

And there was like a very, very, very faint scratch,

but like it didn't dent in the door panel or anything.

And like it's so, it's so subtle that I don't even notice

it now because, and I was like, I was so thankful that it would,

you know, so I did that somewhere out in Bastrop.

I think it was when my son was driving it.

He was going down and like there was just a little

embankment and he hit the front bumper and now it has

like a dent in the thick hard plastic where right

underneath the, right underneath the fog light.

So there's a dent now and like I can't really push it

because it's really, really hard, but I don't care, you know.

But I have a door ding on my driver's side door

that really pisses me off.

I even have like a paint chip on the passenger side

because I was doing donuts and some pretty like beefy

gravel and I got home and I noticed that like, you know,

one of the rocks must have chipped the door.

I'm okay with that, but I've got, but somebody dinged

my door and that's not okay.

Yeah, dude, that's how I am too.

It's like, hey, it's okay if my stuff is broken,

but I want to be the one to break it.

Yeah.

Get away from my toys.

But yeah.

So, you know, things like that where if you do it yourself,

not that you're like happy about it,

but it just doesn't bother you as much.

Oh yeah.

It's like I paid for this.

I did.

Yeah.

Don't ding my door.

Yeah.

I mean, like I even have damage from hail.

Like I have hail damage on the hood and on the

like a pillar between the passenger side, you know,

door and windshield and even that, you know,

you can't do anything about that, but even that

doesn't really bother me.

Yeah.

Hacks of God, bro.

Naturally.

Yeah.

Wasn't a person.

Damage.

Yeah.

You don't get that stuff out here, bro.

That dangerous hail.

Oh really?

Yeah.

Dude, it gets bad.

Not well, not too bad here.

Probably the worst I've ever experienced it that day.

Yeah.

And thankfully it didn't do any more than that.

Yeah.

No thanks.

I'm going inside.

Yeah.

So like getting into Subaru's and everything,

like did you weigh back when you started buying them?

Did you know that there was a community out there?

You know what?

I did, but you know, this is like almost 20 years ago.

Yeah.

When I first, you know, got to the age where buying cars was

a reality for me.

You know, my space was kind of a thing.

Oh, really?

Oh yeah.

I'm that old dude.

Yeah, I'm older than you man.

I remember that.

Yeah.

I mean, nobody had smartphones.

Nobody even really had like phones on their camera yet

really that worked.

They looked like Game Boy cameras basically that was so bad.

But because of where I grew up, there was like, you know, a

lot of like local, you know, community, I guess, just

people that knew each other that were all like into the,

you know, into the car thing.

And then I found out about Naziak, which is like North

American.

Yeah.

Subaru and present owner's club or whatever it, whatever it

is.

This is a forum, right?

Yeah.

And that's been around.

I've still gone on there recently.

And some of the posts, it's like you'll look and it'll

say like, you know, 2003 or 2004.

Oh dude, this is like an artifact, you know, but it

wasn't at that time.

It's so funny to think kind of what's happened to the

brand actually worked for Subaru at a certain point

for a short period of time.

And I remember seeing the sales numbers of our region

and it was crazy, man.

It wasn't until like, I want to say like the mid 2010s,

like maybe the early 2010s when you started to see

like a real increase.

And I think the Outback is kind of what helped do

that when they redesigned the Outback.

But seeing how small the sales numbers were in

the U.S. prior to like 2010, they were so low,

dude, it was crazy.

So at the time it was like this weird little,

you know, like we were like the nerds, you know,

nobody liked Subaru owners.

Everybody thought we were weird.

Like they were a weird quirky car.

They weren't.

They are.

And they still are, but at the time.

Yeah, they were more weird.

Yeah, yeah, like now what Subaru's are now,

like multiply the quirkiness of them like 5X

and that's what they were at the time.

But I think I'd have to probably give, you know,

Subaru Motorsports, you know, they've done a lot

to push the brand and make it like a,

I don't know, just like a household name

that's associated with like, you know, rally driving

and hardcore stuff.

But or just making it cool, I guess would be

would be the way to put it.

But I think Ken Block, honestly, that dude,

he released a snowboard video because he,

he was one of the owners of DC, like he started DC shoes.

Yeah.

And I actually worked in the snowboard

and skateboard industry for a while

and I was heavy in it.

Like when that video came out, it was called snow lab.

I can't remember if it was like snow lab one

or snow lab two or I don't remember,

but it was the one where he was literally driving

an STI, like a Hawkeye STI on a ski resort,

like in the park, dude, like crazy stuff.

Yeah.

And he like got, you know,

Monster Energy sponsors and stuff.

And he really like pushed the brand into a like whole

new echelon of like pop culture.

So I'd give him a huge amount of credit

for like making us less weird.

Yeah.

You got somebody like that coming into the scene,

you know, touting Subaru.

It's like, oh, maybe there's something more

to these cars than we thought.

Dude.

Yeah.

And he, you know, he just really changed

like the reputation.

And I'm sure there were other factors,

but yeah, no, the community now is just way different.

It's so much larger.

And even if it's, even if it was large at the time,

nobody knew that because we weren't connected

the way we are now.

You know, it's like, oh, just open my phone

and I can find 100 new Subaru friends in an hour.

Yeah.

And you know, and like, I feel like I missed out

on all of that nostalgia if you want to call it with,

you know, the early days of Subaru

and like Ken Block and all that kind of stuff.

Because I bought mine in, you know, September of 2020.

And before that, I just, I didn't really know much at all.

And then, you know, it took me,

I don't know if I hadn't started the podcast

and she was just like, you know,

average person out there in the community

with Subaru connecting with others

on Instagram, like, I don't know where I would be.

I don't know how much I would know.

I don't know that I would have,

I definitely wouldn't have done as much as I have

because I've been very blessed with doing the podcast

and being able to go to places that I've been able to go.

But I just like, you know, I feel like I missed out

on the forums.

I've missed out on the early days of Ken Block

and, you know, just some of the things

that people talk about.

Because like one of the other things, too,

is like, you know, you saw,

you remember like the first time you saw a Subaru.

I, you know, I recall seeing Subaru's around.

Like, you know, I remember seeing a brat

like not very specifically as far as like a date

and a time and a place or what year or whatever.

I just, in my brain somewhere, you know,

I remember seeing a brat.

I remember seeing like the STI hatches,

the WRX hatches and things like that.

But I just didn't really think too much

about the brand and the cars.

Yeah.

You know, the way I look at it in 20 years,

people are going to look back

at what we're talking about right now

and be like, man, I missed out on those awesome days.

You know, like this is what we're living in right now

is going to be that for somebody else.

Yeah.

Very true.

But it was a cool time period.

You know, in my opinion, it was peak

like Subaru design and engineering,

like they've done a lot to kind of modernize their cars

and to sort of, you know, make them still viable

in a landscape that has so many regulations

with the EPA and all the safety standards.

Yeah.

But man, like the OG days were sick.

Yeah.

I wonder if like the design of the new Forester

and the design of the new Outback and things like that,

if they're trying to keep up with the market

as far as like other brands that have similar design

and not purposefully not trying to be so different

because maybe they're worried

that they will lose out on sales being so different

trying to appeal to a new audience.

I don't know.

You know, I've thought about that.

I've actually thought about that a lot.

It's almost like a lot of people in the forums,

they'll scream and cry or even on Instagram

and be like, oh, Subaru's not giving the people

what they want.

And it's, you know, it's like,

well, the sales numbers say otherwise.

And they've had to do something to, you know,

they had to take their cars

because it used to be like wagons.

Like they were making tons of wagons.

The Outback Forester used to be like a legit, like true wagon.

The Outback was a legitimate wagon.

Now it's more of like an SUV.

Yeah.

Even into like, I think once the 2015 Outback came out

and then, you know, obviously the SH Forester and like,

was it 09?

Those were like, you wouldn't believe the amount of like

uproar that was, you know,

within the Subaru community at the time like,

oh, I'm looking cars.

These aren't Subaru.

Yeah.

And so I think the reality is, is it's like,

yeah, the enthusiast is important.

And the hardcore, like diehard, like,

OG Subaru Fanatics, they're important

and they definitely do a lot for the brand.

But it's what puts money in the bank

is what really matters.

And I think you're right, man.

I think it is there.

They're like, okay, this is kind of where style

is going in the market.

And we kind of have to follow it unless we do want to be the,

like, we don't want people to buy our cars and be like,

well, I guess I'm going to be the weird person

that drives that weird car, you know.

Yeah.

I'm wondering if it's like market research where

you've got a lot of younger people coming up

with younger families.

Because yeah, you've got the older people that are

really, really love the OG Subarus.

They love how different they are.

They like, that's one of the things that they like

about Subarus is because they are different.

But then you have these other people that are coming up now

looking for their first family car or something

and potentially they might be looking around in the market

and be seeing all these cars that are very similar.

But then like, if Subaru is still very, very different

then they go like, overlook it.

Like, this looks too weird.

I don't want a Subaru.

Yeah.

But if they design to kind of match

what else is out there in the market

but then stand apart because of the all-wheel drive,

because of the Subaru Love Promise,

because of the safety, you know,

those are the things that are going to help

continue with good sales is

and that's what will help Subaru stand apart.

But I think it's the people that have known Subarus

for so long and have loved them for so long.

They're the ones that are like,

oh, the new designs are just, they're not good.

It's not Subaru anymore.

It doesn't look like Subaru anymore.

Yeah.

But I don't know.

I hadn't really thought about that too much until just now.

Yeah.

And I mean, it's a constant topic online, you know,

even in Instagram comment sections and stuff.

But are you familiar with like,

Bug Eye, Blob Eye, and Hawkeye?

I mean, I know I've seen them,

but I couldn't differentiate them.

See, that's where my, what is it called?

My...

Broad knowledge.

Well, what is it?

There's a specific term I'm trying to think of

where you, what the hell is it called?

Where you're not like, you're doing something,

and man, why is my mind blank?

Outside of what you're used to doing, you mean?

Where you're doing something that everybody else really knows.

Oh, yeah.

Where I'm dealing, this is where I deal with imposter syndrome

because I know so...

Who cares, bro?

I know.

But it's like, I have all these people come on,

you know, like you, like you've been in Subaru's for so long

and people start talking about Blob Eye and Bug Eye

and you know, and all this stuff.

And I'm like, I couldn't tell them apart.

If you put them in front of me,

I wouldn't know which was which, you know?

Yeah, but you know what?

Nobody else is having me on their podcast.

You're the one that did it.

It doesn't matter, dude.

I know, I know.

People are like, oh, you've been,

you've connected so many people with so many people

over the past five years and you've, you know,

you've like brought us together in a way

that nobody else has.

You've shared people.

So, I mean, I know there's value to what I've been doing

to the community because I'm having people

on to talk about their Subaru's

and share their stories and their journeys

and how it changed their life.

And then you also have the people

that get to listen to the guests that are on there.

So, I know there's value to it,

but I just, you know, as creators,

you give yourself a hard time about what you do

or don't know and it's just the way it goes.

It's funny you say that

because I have imposter syndrome, bro.

Like, even when I started the website

and I was trying to write things

that would help people do this stuff,

I remember being like, yeah, I'm not an engineer, though,

and I'm not a mechanic.

You know, I'm not, like, I wrench in my driveway,

but I'm not an actual mechanic.

Like, there's people that know so much more about me,

but none of those people

were putting anything out there.

So, I kind of had to get over that.

But I guess what I was going to say, the...

So, in the United States,

in 2001, Model Year 02 Impressa,

that was the first turbocharged Impressa

that we got in the United States,

was in Model Year 2002,

which would have been calendar year 01.

Those were the ones that had the round headlights.

It was like the first WRX.

It was the WRX that I saw.

Gotcha.

And then two years later, we got the blob eye,

which looked, it was honestly the same car,

but just a redone front end,

where the headlights, they weren't round anymore.

They're a little bit more...

People call them blobby, like a blob eye,

because it had kind of a blob-looking headlight,

just a little bit wider, more robust.

Now, within the next...

Oh, go ahead.

Was that like a community term

that people came up with,

or is this with something that Subaru

actually called these cars?

Yeah.

People just come up with these names for them, you know?

Just...

Yeah, it's just a community thing

that the names just kind of catch on, I guess.

I don't think there's like an official committee

that decides, but it just sort of naturally happens.

But after the blob eye,

there was the hawk eye,

which again, same chassis,

same car basically,

that they reworked the front end

to kind of make it look a little bit different,

kind of like how they did with cross tracks.

Same car, just slightly reshaped

the body panels a little bit,

and the front ends and rear ends.

But the hawk eye, when that came out,

the hawk eye is now considered like the pinnacle

of like OG, Subaru, peak performance,

like that was the car that, you know,

Ken Block was, you know,

doing a lot of stuff in, you know,

the early, you know, DC stuff that he was doing.

But anyways, at the time, people hated it.

You know, and I'm sure there were people that liked it,

but there were a lot of people that are like,

that hawk eye, that looks like crap.

I can't believe they ruined a perfectly good car.

Now it's like everybody wants a hawk eye.

If you can get a clean hawk eye STI,

you're paying 30 Gs if it's 100,000 miles.

And what year was that?

So look up 2006 or 2007 STI.

You'll recognize it when you see it.

Steven Red, I think you had Steven Red on the podcast.

His rally car is based off of the hawk eye.

Okay, yeah, I see that.

Yeah, what do they do, man?

That car looks horrible.

Who would want one of those?

Yeah, Mitch was in that car when it wrecked.

Oh, yeah.

It kind of looks like, what's the other SUV

that nobody likes?

A Subaru SUV?

Yeah, I can't remember the name of it now.

Oh, the Tribeca.

Yeah, the Tribeca.

The Tribeca has that little front,

you know, the center part of the grill.

That tiny little grill, yeah, bro.

It's funny you say that because I think the Tribeca was released.

Actually, I don't even know when the Tribeca was released.

I think it was released right around the same time

as the hawk eye though.

Now I got to find out.

I don't know.

I should know this stuff, but

first model year was 06, same year as the hawk eye.

So you are so spot on with that.

The different eyes.

The Subaru eyes.

Yeah, and I think that only went for the imprezas.

Well, they separated the impreza

and the WRX STI line once the VA chassis came out.

But they, I think they continued it like

after hawk eye was like, man, what did they call it after?

And now I feel bad.

I can't even remember.

I don't know, but what's funny is like me,

I think we were at Subifest, Texas.

And we see like, and this is like me and my son and my daughter.

And we're going around and we're like,

what the heck impreza, outback STI, WRX?

How is that all in one car?

You know, it's like so weird.

Well, it's really funny because the way that Subaru did things

for a long time, and I think they were smart to kind of change this.

They would just create trim packages of their cars.

So it was like, and it might have hurt them a little bit in certain aspects,

but it could have something to do with just like Japanese manufacturing is very efficient.

And it's like, well, we can just create a package in the same car,

run it on the same lines and then just integrate these different parts

into these specific models.

But yeah, like the the the impreza and the WRX and STI,

they literally all shared like the same headlights, tail lights,

chassis, like the unibody was all the same.

I mean, there may have been minor differences,

but they literally were the same car just with a different package.

And then like the legacy, you know, the legacy is where the outback came from it.

Yeah, it was just a legacy.

And that's what we would see is like legacy outback.

We're like, wait a minute, is it a legacy or is it out in an outback?

Because like now you have a legacy and you have an outback,

but you would see one that says like legacy outback.

Like what's the deal?

How does that work?

And you know what's funny,

even though they now technically separated the vehicles into their own lines

and they don't they don't classify them as the same car anymore.

The legacy and I maybe I've missed out on some news,

but last I checked they discontinued the legacy.

Yeah, they released, I don't remember when it was,

but the US Media Center released an announcement that they produced

the very last legacy in Indiana.

Yeah, I'd heard about that.

I just wasn't sure if maybe they'd gone back on that.

Unfortunately, it sounds like they haven't.

But yeah, it's the legacy and the outback,

even up until the most recent iteration of the legacy,

they literally were the same car, same, you know, platform.

They obviously had to change the unibody a little bit

to account for having a SUV rear end on the outback and stuff.

But yeah, I always thought that was funny too.

You know, it was like they even had an impresa outback.

They had the legacy outback, impresa outback.

Yeah.

I think it was.

It's funny.

I think it was 2010 is when they finally brought the outback

over to its own thing, which I think did them a huge favor

that transformed their business for sure.

With your forester, where do you typically take it?

Because I know you've said that you live in an area

that's not the greatest for hitting trails

and going off-road and everything.

So what do you have available

and where do you go when you can go off-road with it?

You know, I bought this specific forester in 2020, I think.

Oh, it's not too long ago.

Bro, you know what's really bad?

That's almost six years ago.

I know.

Yeah, I know.

I say it's not too long ago.

I mean, I'm thinking like 10 years is like,

oh yeah, I was a while back.

But almost six years ago, I guess, okay, whatever, man.

It's a new Subaru.

It's literally the most recently purchased Subaru.

So for six years, I haven't bought a new Subaru,

which is absolutely mind-blowing.

Is that? That's impressive.

Well, are you doing okay?

Me? Oh, yeah, dude.

I'm just fidgety, bro, all the time.

I mean, like, you know, are you okay

not having bought a Subaru in six years?

I gotta get a new Subaru real quick.

Breaking out in hives.

Yeah, bro.

I need that fix.

Now, so when I bought it,

I was still living on that side of the state.

So a lot of the stuff that you see,

like Derek and, you know, Michelle,

that whole crew, Brandon.

All those losers.

Yeah, all those nerds.

So a lot of that stuff,

that area, I'm not the first,

but I'm one of the first people to take a Subaru

on a lot of the trails in the area where I grew up.

Again, not the first.

I'm not gonna act like I'm an OG,

but one of the first people before...

Yeah, I mean, even before Crosstrex became popular,

I was lifting Subarus

and kind of taking them out into the woods.

So I definitely, just in the, you know,

six years or whatever that I was really doing stuff

out in that area in Subarus,

I did so many stupid things to these poor cars

in that amount of time.

Toward now, it's like, okay, okay,

I've seen what I can do in these cars.

Now I gotta be nicer to them.

But we do have sand out here.

We got sand dunes.

Occasionally, I'll get out there.

But, you know, the sad thing is,

is unless you're talking about real flat sand dunes,

Subarus without like a low gear,

it's not good for the cars.

It really isn't.

But I'll still, you know,

now my favorite thing to do with the Forester

is to get it out to good camping spots.

Like that's my jam.

And anybody that's from this area

or anybody that knows me personally

has probably heard me talking about

going out to the Trout Lake area,

which is, it's kind of across from Hood River, Oregon,

like Washington and Oregon are separated

in large by the Columbia River.

For most of the border of Washington and Oregon

is separated by the Columbia.

And so it's just across the river

and north up into Washington.

Over the river and through the woods.

Exactly. We've been to Grandma's house this week.

But that's about two and a half hours from where I'm at.

So it's not that bad, dude.

It's easy for me to be over here and cry and whine

that I don't live 30 minutes away from, you know,

the off-road trails like I used to.

But it's not that bad, dude.

We're still within driving distance.

So when you get out camping,

like what's your camping setup?

Dude, my camp,

this is going to sound really silly coming from me

as somebody who acts like they do a lot of off-roading

in their cars.

I'm like the worst person when it comes to camping.

Like I literally just, if it's just me,

I just post up in the back of the Subaru

with like a real basic camping mat

and a sleeping bag and just like whatever other stuff I need.

But I do not have like a good overlanding setup,

which I know a lot of Subaru people do.

I just don't.

And I think, I think the reason for it is

I never did a lot of like, you know, multi-day trips.

I do now, but on occasion, just if I need to,

because I live so far from everybody else.

But like, man, I've just always been so busy.

It's like, man, I can't take two days off

from all this other stuff I'm doing.

Like I'm going to go, I'm going to leave at 7 a.m.,

get back at like 9 p.m. and go to bed.

Day trip, huh?

Yeah, yes.

And I lived so close at that, you know,

previously I lived like within an hour and a half

drive from literally some of the sickest stuff on planet Earth.

And so it was easy to get spoiled in that regard.

Oh, I can imagine.

Yeah, dude.

Yeah, I did a lot of hiking, which, yeah,

that's how I got into the whole lifting thing was

because of like off-trail hiking.

But yeah, so now it's, I pretty much just do

like minor off-road stuff.

There's a place called Hepner, Oregon out here,

which is still like an hour and a half from me,

but I'll go in there and there's some really beautiful stuff

out there and we'll, you know, hit some nice,

you know, just minor trails, nothing crazy anymore.

You know, I like these cars and I know what

they're capable of.

And I got to a point where I was like,

I want to also do like really bad stuff like rock

crawling and actually beat the crap out of an off-road rig.

And that's kind of why I decided to add the Jeep into the mix

because I was like, I can do this indefinitely with the Jeep,

but if I can do stuff like this to the Forester,

I'm just going to destroy it.

It's going to be totally flapped out.

It's already, you know what's funny,

that poor Subaru, when I bought it,

it had a rebuilt title.

I checked the car over and it, you know,

drove pretty great.

Everything looked good.

Some of the repair on it,

you could tell was kind of just hacked around.

But I got the thing for like $1,700.

Man, that's nice.

Something like that, you know,

which is how I shop for cars.

A lot of times I buy cars where I'm like,

oh no, it's got a little ding on the bumper here.

Oh, you know, it's got a dent on the door.

It's like, it doesn't matter.

I'm going to cut half the bumper off anyways.

I don't tell the seller that.

You know, it's just bargaining power

because like I already planned to ruin the car.

I really want to, you know,

I don't know how that thing is bothering me.

Why don't you take like another $200 off?

They see it and they're like,

you fooled me.

Well, they'd never recognized the car now,

but yeah, no.

So it was in a front end collision.

I have a photo of it somewhere that I found online

when I did a VIN check.

I have a photo from the wrecking yard

or the towing company that it ended up with.

The whole front end, like on the driver's side

was pretty smashed.

Didn't really do too much to it.

Mainly got the driver's fender, like front fender

or most of that up.

But underneath like everything else

looked pretty solid.

There's no like crazy structural damage,

but man, that poor car is probably like,

let me die, bro.

How many miles did it have when you bought it?

When I bought it, I want to say it was like

one,

maybe like 180.

Oh, wow.

It was a little bit up there,

but I was like, dude, this is perfect.

I'm going to be mean to this car.

How many miles have you put on it since?

Okay, so I don't remember.

I don't even remember what's on the car right now.

I want to say,

dude, you're going to laugh at me for this,

but it's not my daily driver really.

I mean, I do daily drive it, but

I want to say it's only like

207,000 miles or something

at this point.

Baby miles.

But you got to think, bro, like

Everything was close.

Well,

like you said, it wasn't a daily driver.

Yeah, everything was close.

But the thing is, is like

everything I did in that car for like a good,

I don't know,

two years was like heavy metal, dude.

Yeah.

That poor car, but yeah, it's actually funny story.

That car's been underwater.

People have heard me tell this story, but

yeah, I sank the poor thing in a pond.

And pond is maybe not the right way to say it.

That maybe sounds a little dramatic,

but it was enough water

for it to come up over the hatch

of the rear of the vehicle.

What?

To recover it. Yeah, dude.

Wow.

So it was literally in the water.

And it's so silly, man.

I was actually up near Trout Lake

after the Oregon Trail Rally

in 2022

or 23.

I can't remember which year.

They had it in a later part of the year,

one season.

I can't remember which year that was,

but because of scheduling conflicts.

And so we went out there afterwards

to go wheeling a little bit.

And it was snowing up there.

And I just like driving like a bozo,

you know, like hitting ditches and stuff

when it's snowing.

It's so much fun.

Well, they dig out these massive culverts.

Like it's hard for me to describe it

without you seeing it,

but there's these big like,

they're trying to kind of manage the drainage

so that it doesn't just destroy the roads

because a lot of these are logging roads.

And so off the side of the road,

there will also be these big canyons

because of just the natural formation

of the hills out there.

And so there's this one spot

where it just looked like flat snow.

And I'm just ripping around this corner, bro.

And like, I didn't realize that it was like

piled up snow.

Dude, it was just enough snow

on the top of this little pond.

I mean, because it completely filled with water.

And I'm talking like if I got in it,

at the deepest part, it would have been like

up over my head, you know.

And it's an abrupt like drop too.

But it filled up with water

and there was enough snow on the top

to where I couldn't distinguish

that it was like a just full of water, bro.

And it just stuck the car right in.

And I was like, oh no, this is bad news.

Immediately shut the car off.

I was like, okay, I'm going to hydro lock it

if I don't turn the car off.

But yeah, so that car has seen some things.

What is like the furthest distance

you've driven like in any of your cars?

Like, do you take any road trips?

No, I really don't.

Man, I sound like a dork on here, man.

I'm trying to think here.

I have done, I went to Idaho randomly

like probably three, three and a half years ago.

I just was like, I kind of want to drive to Idaho today.

How far was that?

It's probably, you know what?

I don't even remember.

It's probably about six hours.

Okay, that's not too bad.

Yeah, probably about six hours

from where I'm at to the spot that I went.

I just wanted to do it.

That was actually kind of still during the shutdown and stuff.

Oh, yeah.

Idaho was more lax.

And I was like, let me see what's going on over in Idaho.

Why not?

Yeah, I just ripped out there.

But dang, I'm trying to think.

You know what?

I drove to Nampa, Idaho three years ago

and met up with the homie,

him and his fiance live out there.

Me and my buddy Kyle, actually,

they got on my shirt right now.

We ripped out there.

And yeah, that was maybe,

that was also about six hours from where I'm at

currently to his house.

But you know, I've never done any like really cool road trips

like what most people on here have done.

Because again, I just live so close to so many things.

I was like, oh, I'm two hours away from this,

you know, mountain or whatever.

Yeah, you don't have to road trip to a mountain.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

That makes sense.

Even where I'm at now, I'm spoiled.

Yeah.

I've definitely done some crazy things.

So in terms of like, you know, like off-road trips,

we did, I don't remember which sections,

but in 2022, we did like a two-day trip

on the Washington Back Road Discovery Route.

Oh, I've heard of that.

Yeah, yeah, people just call it like the Wobbiter.

But we did that.

That was probably like the furthest I've traveled off pavement

at one time.

Okay.

So we went out there and kind of did that.

And that was a lot of fun.

That was when those people tried to like threaten us with guns.

Maybe you heard me tell that story.

Yeah, I think so, yeah.

I guess there was a naked dude off the side of the road too.

It was absolutely wild.

That's probably, yeah, we can cut all that other stuff

and actually make it sound like a dude overlanding.

But yeah, that was a fun trip.

That's actually where I met Michelle Wazubaru.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And, you know, my good buddy Michael McAllister,

he was on that trip.

He's cool.

He's got a Forester XT, a bunch of other rad people

on that trip.

It was a good time.

Absolute, like just, you know, fiasco,

but those make for the best trips.

Yeah.

You mentioned the Oregon Trail Rally earlier.

How many times have you gone to that?

You know, this is going to sound really dumb,

but I've probably only been six times,

even though like I've only six times.

That's not bad.

That's my backyard, man.

Some people haven't been at all.

Okay.

I told you, brother, you have a place to stay out here

the next time you want.

And I'll even help fly you out.

Yeah, I want to make it out to a rally.

Dude, it is actually, it's funny.

I just mentioned my friend, Mike McAllister,

that was on that wobbler trip with us.

He is, I think for the last two Oregon Trail rallies,

he has volunteered as a tech for, you know,

part of the service team.

I can't remember what car number it is,

but the gentleman that owns the company

that used to be called SubiWorks,

that makes the Porsche axle conversions

in, I think they're in myriad of California.

They had to change their name recently due to like a,

you know, you know how that goes.

I guess they weren't allowed to use SubiWorks for some reason,

but he has a rally team and Mike actually volunteered

to help out with their service team.

He teaches auto shop at a trade school out here,

which is pretty cool.

Yeah.

But dude, the Oregon Trail rally is sick.

It's like one of the coolest things you can experience

if you're into cars.

And even if you're not into cars, it's an absolute blast.

Well, I mean, like the only thing,

the only place I've seen it is on Instagram

and Subaru Launch Control.

And I've mentioned before, like, you know,

for people that aren't really into rally,

maybe don't know much about it.

The way that they present Subaru Launch Control

was like, they do such a good job with the show.

And it's just fun to watch it, you know,

and they just, they released one.

I mean, we were recording this well before your episode

will be released, but they released one

and it was 13.3, so I had to watch it.

It was pretty good.

Nice.

Yeah.

It's got a very grassroots feel to it.

It is well organized, but it doesn't feel

like this big official thing where it's like,

oh, you can't go over here.

Oh, you like a huge production.

You can't park here.

You can't park.

It's like a free-for-all dude, but it's like a very,

like low-key, awesome, just, you know,

everybody there is respectful.

Everybody's there, kind of understands like,

okay, you know, we know we're allowed

to park here for Spectation and we know,

yeah, it's just, it's not a crazy hectic event,

but like the people that are there driving,

like even the local teams, like those dudes,

man, they like lay it down for the people,

man, I absolutely love it.

But then, you know, you'll be walking around

during like the expose, like in the morning

when they pull out all the cars

and you're like, oh, there's Travis Pastrana

or back before he passed.

Ken Block could just be walking around,

you know, going into the coffee shop,

get a coffee, you know what I mean?

Yeah, just like a normal day at the rally.

Yeah.

And you know, I have yet to actually approach Travis

because like, I hate being that dude, man,

like as much as I would love to have a picture with him,

it's like, you know, this poor guy,

his poor body is even more beat up than mine.

He just got done, you know, with a full day of racing

and you know, I hate to be that guy

that's like, could I get a picture with you?

No, I know what you mean, yeah.

Yeah.

But the more it goes on, the more I like,

I'm realizing I actually need to take more photos of things.

Well, you need to, and you need to take the opportunity

at least once to go up and like, hey,

just wanted to say I love watching you.

Yeah.

Cool.

Gotta get a picture real quick.

Yeah, just whatever.

Yeah.

Well, you know what really made me

start to feel stupid about that whole thing was,

you know, last year I was like,

well, I never, you know, took 30 seconds

to bother Ken Block and now I'll never get to do that.

Yeah.

You know, and so I was thinking about that

and you know, we don't know how much time we got.

You know, I always try to be respectful to people

but that's always my hesitation.

It's like, I don't want to be a bother.

Yeah.

And then what if you can't,

you don't have the opportunity to be a quote unquote bother,

you know, and you miss that chance.

Yeah, exactly.

But, you know, everybody's so rad, like we were talking.

Oh, yeah.

You know, when you were on my show,

we were talking about Rhiannon and, you know,

she just like spent all day at the Overland Expo

just chatting with fans and talk to her.

She's like such a, you know.

She's awesome.

Perfect human being dude.

Like super kind hearted.

Yeah.

Speaking of like Overland Expo,

you know, I met you at PNW

because that's where you are.

So it's cool because like I can add you to the list of people

that I've met in person that I've had on the podcast.

Likewise.

But it was also at PNW that I met somebody

that you know very well and that you respect

and that you run his stuff.

But I finally got to meet Mitch

at a Fermilay design firm.

And he is.

Nice to shout out.

Yeah.

He is, he's such a great guy.

He's like such a great supporter too.

Yeah.

And a super, super busy guy,

very humble though,

but just all around great guy.

And I'm glad I finally got to meet him.

Yeah.

You know, the unfortunate thing is I wasn't able

to be there the day that he was there.

Yeah.

So have you been able to come?

You've met him in person though.

Haven't you?

Oh yeah.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

I mean, I just, let's see.

I was going to say,

you better not live there and not have met him.

No, I've definitely, no, no, no, we,

I'm probably the worst person at texting Mitch back

because, you know, I help him out with certain things

on his website occasionally.

And sometimes I'm just like so overloaded.

I just, you know,

you're the worst about messaging anybody back.

It just gets, it just gets overloaded.

I stared a screen for probably anywhere from

eight to 14 hours a day just depending.

And so it gets a little overloaded.

Yeah.

But anyways, no, it's funny.

The way that I first met Mitch in person was,

I got my first battery and battery box and he saw that I lived,

I lived in Vancouver, Washington,

which is just, you know,

like 15 minutes across the bridge from Portland.

And at the time he was living in Portland.

Now he lives a little bit further south,

you know, maybe another 30, 40 minutes south.

But he was like, hey, I'm going to bring this to you.

And I was like, bro, say less.

All right.

So he just like rolled up to the house and brought the goods

and, you know, we just kind of chatted a little bit and,

you know, talk, man,

we probably talked for like 45 minutes or something.

But yeah, that was like, that was 2020.

So I was like, oh, gee.

Yeah.

Back in the day.

And are you running the full throttle battery?

Oh, bro.

I got.

That's what, yeah.

That's what I'm running to.

There have been so many full throttle batteries

to come through my address.

It's not even funny.

So we definitely got to give a massive shout out.

Like Mitch has designed a whole, I don't even know what to call it,

just like a whole like platform for like the world's best

performance batteries that are available now,

like Odyssey, full throttle, anti-gravity Braille.

And I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but,

but yeah, man, I'm running a full throttle FT-410

in the Forester right now.

And no, no, no.

Sorry, I got that mixed up.

The FT-410 is in the legacy.

Okay.

I've got an FT-560 in the Forester.

And both of them are in Melee Design Firm Battery Boxes.

Oh, yeah.

Dude, I'm running it tough, bro.

Yeah.

And dude, I beat the heck out of those batteries.

I've trained both of them.

Oh.

Both like more than once and they still work, man.

Nice.

That's good to know.

Shout out.

Yeah.

Oh, dude.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

Because I was, my battery had died the day I was going for an interview

from the job that I got laid off from and my battery died,

but I had an anti-gravity little charger.

Jumpstart.

Yeah, jumpstart that I bought from Mitch.

And it worked.

It started my battery, but then my battery kept dying

and I kept having to use that.

And then it was like one time it almost didn't work.

So I was like, Mitch, I need another battery.

And so he was like, yeah, I've got these full throttle batteries.

That's what I would recommend.

And I was like, man, this thing's like 350 bucks.

And he was like, yeah, but it'll last forever.

So, yeah.

He's not wrong.

No, I haven't had it too long.

I haven't had it nearly as long as I had the OEM battery.

But yeah, I just, I don't even worry about it.

But yeah, I've got the full throttle battery.

I've got the Group 35 battery box with the Subinu podcast logo

etched on the front.

And then the top is signed by Bucky Lastic,

which is cool, the little flap.

And then...

So jealous.

And then I've got a Melee pitch stop.

I've got Melee engine bay caps.

Caps.

And then I have the front strut tower bar.

And then some Melee decals on the car.

Pretty decent setup.

Yeah, I think I've got all those same upgrades

on both my Super Rids.

Yeah, they're good.

I didn't need any of this stuff.

So he gave me full disclosure.

He gave me the battery box.

But of course, I bought the battery

and I bought everything else that's in there.

I didn't need any of the other stuff.

But it helps...

The engine bay looks cool now

because I've got all these other things in there.

But I also wanted to help support him too

by buying stuff from him.

Because he's been so supportive of the podcast

and it's like, I don't need these things

but I want to buy them because I want to help support him.

Yeah, I kind of...

You know how some people collect like

Jordans and other sneakers and stuff?

Yeah.

That's kind of how I am with just anything

that's made by someone that I know and care about.

It's funny to me.

Yeah, I've become such a sentimental old man.

I found out my brother,

he just had got a wild hair

to start making these custom copper lamps.

And I was like, Bro,

why didn't you tell me you were doing this?

It's a piece of artwork.

I would love to have one of these in my house.

He was like, oh, do you actually like them?

I was like, yeah, I like them and they're made by a loved one.

Yeah, you're my brother. Come on, man.

I need that in my house.

Because we've gotten to such a weird place in society

where everything's made in the same factories.

Batteries...

There's only five manufacturing facilities

that make 99% of all the batteries.

There's maybe two manufacturers of TVs

that make all the TVs.

And just across all industries,

everything has become so mass produced.

And so when I find stuff like what Mitch is doing

or any of the other companies in the industry

that are making stuff that's small batch

or just specialized where you don't feel like

it's a big off-road company

that notices an opportunity in the Subaru market

and it just starts making a bunch of crap

to try to capitalize on it.

Dude, I will spend all the money and represent

hands down every time.

Yeah, and it's fun to and feels good

to support these smaller brands

because they work so hard at what they do.

They put a lot of work into it.

And yeah, a lot of them aren't...

Sometimes they present as though they might be

kind of bigger than they actually are.

And you find out like, what? Three people work here?

That's crazy, you know?

So why do you say that?

Well, it's because it's like Go-Treads.

When I had Go-Treads on,

it's like the guy, his dad, his mom,

and his sister or something.

I think there's like six or seven people

total in the whole company,

but it kind of presents as like this big company.

And man, it's just like a family-owned business

with not that many people running.

It's pretty cool.

Well, that's like, it's so funny.

I mean, I kind of knew this just based on what I know

about how a lot of businesses can be run,

but when I first actually talked to Patrick Anderson

at ADF, I was like, you know,

I don't even know what we're talking about,

but he was asking me some questions about marketing

because that's what I do professionally,

he was like asking me how to do something.

I was like, oh, you know what?

Like this is how I would do it if somebody on your team,

you know, you're probably busy,

but I'm sure somebody on your team,

if you allocate three hours a week for them to do this thing,

like it'll probably help.

He'd be like, how many people do you think work here?

I was like, I don't know, maybe five.

He was like, no, man, it's me,

one other guy and my brother.

I was like, what?

Which I knew that they ran like a really small tight ship,

but you know, it just goes to show,

like if you're dedicated and you're wise

and you work your butt off

and you're not looking for participation trophies,

like you can create something like ADF,

something that's become like a worldwide phenomenon.

And I think the other thing that you mentioned,

like wanting to support these people

that are working their butts off like Mitch,

a lot of people don't realize he had,

I mean, I don't think I'd be out of line

to say that he was making a healthy,

very healthy six-figure income.

Oh, yeah.

Now he mentioned it when he was on my podcast,

that he left a six-figure income to start Melee

and you know, it took him like, I think he said about,

maybe he said three years to finally get out

and branch off and do that solely

and yeah, I mean, but he, I mean,

now it's not like he's making a killing,

making battery boxes and all this other stuff.

I mean, he works really, really hard in long hours

and he travels a lot and yeah, he's just,

but he's doing what he wants to do.

Exactly.

Yeah, and I mean, it's,

if you knew anything about like OHSU,

which is where he had just gotten,

I think his most recent job,

he had been recruited

and head-hunted to go over and work for them,

but they're like one of the premier

like research institute hospitals or whatever they are,

like in the entire region.

But yeah, to think that somebody was like,

and again, like I work in the medical industry

and I see the kind of money

that people in specialized fields make,

that dude was willing to like walk away

from that kind of income and be set for life

and do this passion, which I think is sick.

Yeah, that's why to this date,

his episode is my favorite because of what he did.

Just when people ask me what my favorite episode is,

it's his.

Yeah, and I tell him that too,

but part of the reason it's my favorite episode

is at the time that I recorded with him,

I was like really, really, really dug in

and working really hard with the podcast

and doing an episode a week

and doing the Soobie Scoop once a week too.

And on top of working a full-time job,

on top of being a dad and everything.

And I was like trying to see

if there was a way to do it full-time

and just hearing him tell his story

and about working his full-time job

and this big income

and then going and doing what he wanted to do,

I'm like, that's what I want to do,

but how do I do that?

It's not easy doing what we're doing

to do it full-time.

Not even a little bit.

Yeah, this has nothing to do with Subarus,

but I have a friend whose name is Kevin

and shout out Kevin Dude.

He's like, actually, you know, it's really funny.

Me and Kevin,

when I started the Lifted Imports website,

he and I sat in the exact same Starbucks

together for like eight hours at a time,

grinding on our own side projects.

So he's been like one of my OG supporters

since day one.

He's never even owned a Subaru,

but no, it's funny because this dude,

he has a master's or an MBA

and he was the head of...

not the head, but one of the

competitive intelligence officers

for HP North America,

like the inkjet department,

competitive intelligence.

It's this crazy practice

I'm not fully aware of exactly how it works,

but it means something to somebody

who knows what it is,

but it's kind of like aggregating

tons of data and trying to make

strategic business decisions

based on publicly available information.

Like, hey, we just saw that this supplier

just got a massive order of these

specific microchips that are used

in this specific type of printer.

This company's never made a printer like this,

but we think because of that,

they're probably going to introduce

this type of a printer to the market

in the next eight to 12 months.

Let's start seeing that type of thing

way above my pay grade,

but he was making a quarter million dollars

a year driving a Lotus

and just a baller.

And then he kind of,

I guess, had some type of

personality conflict with one of his managers

and got laid off,

but he was like, man, you know what?

I don't think I want to get a job anymore.

Like, I think I'm going to do my own thing.

And so he just was like,

he started grinding, started doing like,

I think I was telling you about

how he does like task rabbit.

This dude made 40 grand this year

working like, I don't know,

10 hours a week doing task rabbit,

then started doing like Uber

and then bought a bunch of Turro cars

and now rents out cars and like,

now he's starting like an epoxy

flooring business.

Like, you know, gave up this huge

income and was like,

I just don't want to be told what to do.

Don't want to have the rug pulled out from under me.

I'd rather be in charge.

That's inspiring, dude. I love it.

All right, I just, so I was thinking of something like if,

and I've asked this question

occasionally, I don't ask it all the time,

but you know, because we've talked about

how many old Subaru's and the love

of all these old Subaru's and how Subaru

designs have changed and everything,

but if somebody like,

let's say somebody was like,

you know what, I'll buy you

whatever newest model

Subaru you want,

you get to choose one Subaru

and the newest model

what would it be?

So something current, current

Yeah, like current,

like right now.

VB, chassis,

WRX, all day.

For all the hate that the

VB got,

it's such a fantastic

platform in my opinion, and it's funny,

you know, we touched on this a little bit earlier,

but I remember

the STI hatchbacks that everybody loves

and wants now, everybody hated

those when the narrow body WRX

was released in O9, people hated it.

Now everybody wants

an STI hatch or a narrow

body WRX.

But yeah, dude,

the VB

WRX, I mean, I don't think they have

a special edition out.

Yeah, I can't remember what it's called,

but yeah.

Like a little bit of a special package

that's tuned a little bit

more aggressively.

But dude, it's such a good

platform right out of the box

for what it is that still kind of

holds true to

just like

Subaru Heritage, man.

Still a boxer,

but it's modern, you know, the FA

2.4 DITs

just got

all kinds of headroom, all sorts of potential.

Even right out of the box, man, those things

cook, dude. It's available

with a manual. Dude, six-speed manual, bro.

There's not a whole lot of stuff

on the market now.

And Bucky Elastic's got one, come on.

Yeah.

Bucky is the man, bro.

But yeah,

for all the hate they got back in,

what was it, 2022,

that they dropped,

I just think it's a great

car. And I would definitely

buy one, mob the heck out of it

if I

was given unlimited resources.

Yeah.

But yeah, that would be the one for sure.

But I'm also not hating on

the new

Impresa hatchbacks.

I honestly think those are kind of cool.

I know it's not turboed, but the Impresa RS

or whatever it is that they've recently made,

I think that's a good looking car.

Probably wouldn't go finance

one with my own money, but

yeah. All right, so

that's a

really good pick.

But what if somebody said

any

more off-road capable

Subaru because you've got the Cross Trek,

the Outback, the Forester,

the Ascent.

So those are your four choices.

I'm doing

Forester all day.

Become a huge Forester fan.

Legacy is like my

legacy platform is kind of like my first

love with Subarus, even though

it took me a while to realize how sick they were.

But dude, the Forester, man.

Patrick

over at ADF, he

is currently building that white one.

And man, he's really

unfortunately

right off the lot, they look

a lot like a Ford Explorer.

But man, the way he's got his sitting

with

even just a basic lift

with those Milestar

AT Pros.

Chef's Kiss, bro. Like those are sick.

Well, and then the one that

Milton and Kerry built out for the Rebel rally, too.

The hybrid.

Yeah. That looks amazing.

I see.

Is Patrick, is he posting it

on his Instagram page, the white one?

Or is he not posting anything yet?

I think they are.

That's what I want to see.

I want to see somebody do something crazy

with a new Forester

as far as like making it

more off-road capable.

And then I want to see somebody drop one

and make some sort of like street build

looking Forester, look crazy, you know?

Yeah.

So it's funny because that's kind of my favorite

that's kind of my favorite thing

and it might have been born out of the necessity

to

to do that

early before

lift kits were readily available.

Back in the day, you used to have to take an Impressor

or Legacy and lift it on Forester suspension

and

can you hear that dog by the way?

I don't hear it.

Thank God.

My backdoor neighbor's got a dog.

But yeah, that's how you used to have to lift them

was by using

Subaru suspension

off of a car that was bigger.

And so I always thought it was

cool to lift the car that didn't look like

it was supposed to be lifted and slam the car

that looked like it was supposed to be like

off-road, you know?

But yeah, I would

totally be down with that. I'd even love to have

like another

2010-2011

6-speed manual

outback and slam the car out of that thing.

That would be sick.

6-speed manual, dude.

Let's go.

It's got to be a manual.

It's just so much more fun.

Yeah.

For off-road, I prefer

a true automatic

personally.

Even a CVT off-road is going to be less

likely to burn up clutch.

But without low range, that's kind of my jam

is

I never bought an automatic actually

until

the Forester that I have now.

I'd only ever bought

one other automatic in my entire life

in my whole career of driving

and

it was a 93

legacy turbo wagon. And the only reason I didn't

buy it in a 5-speed is because it was never made

in the US in the manual transmission.

You could only get the sedans

in a 5-speed.

Other than that, my first automatic

was the current SG

that I have.

Yeah.

This is my third manual

because I had a 1990 Ford Ranger

that was a 5-speed manual

and then I had a 1997 Ranger

that was a 5-speed manual.

It's just something about driving a manual.

It's so fun.

Yeah. If it's a daily driver

and it's not going to be loaded up

with heavy tires,

oh dude, manual transmission all day.

Yeah.

Every single time, dude, that's absolutely

my jam.

Yeah, first car was actually

a 5-speed.

I had no idea how to drive it

so I just taught myself.

That's the best way to do it, man, is to own one.

Yeah, dude.

Sink or swim, you know, you better figure it out.

Yeah.

Yeah, when I had that first

Ford Ranger

I had never owned one.

I had tried to practice driving one

so I kind of knew what to do

but I'm like, I'm going to have to

learn how to drive it. I don't have a choice

because I needed a car at the time

and I did it.

That was fun.

I still remember the first time I actually tried

to drive on the road.

I still remember where I was at.

I still remember what we were doing

and I still remember being like, oh dude, this is actually scary.

I hope I can make it work, you know.

We were actually skateboarding.

We were like running around town, skateboarding different spots.

I still remember who I was with too, man.

Yeah, I made it home, dude.

Yeah.

My first experience trying to drive a manual

was with my first girlfriend.

She had a Volkswagen Rabbit

and she...

Yeah, and so I got

in the driver's seat and I'm trying to, you know,

get out of first, but

what I didn't realize is that

you should make yourself comfortable

with your seat back so that you've got plenty of reach

with your legs because

my legs were all squinched up, you know.

And so that's probably

I wasn't comfortable

and I didn't have like the perfect, you know,

range of motion with my left leg

and so I kept stalling it

and then I just gave up.

And she didn't really know how to teach it, you know.

Yeah.

But that was fun.

I still stall occasionally.

Same, actually.

If I was driving the blue car,

I would definitely stall it on occasion.

What is your,

what is your like ultimate Subaru,

like production car that...

This is...

So ultimate, can I just pick any Subaru right now?

Yeah.

If I had unlimited money right now

and could make an offer

to

anybody

that could guarantee me

their car that I want,

it would be, man, I'm...

I don't even know how to say it.

He's like one of my good friends.

I've never heard him say his last name.

But I'm not going to say his...

Okay, he doesn't have his last name on his Instagram

so I'm not even going to try to say it

because it's probably private, but...

I'm going to do

story time. Here we go.

Okay.

Back in the day when I had my first

first-gen legacy

there was a forum

on the internet called bbs.legacycentral.org

or something like that.

It was a first-gen legacy forum

that was started, I think, by a guy who'd done

like a full, like, STI swap.

I don't even remember what all this guy did,

but it was a first-gen legacy forum

and I remember there was

some photos

on that forum and some photos

that I found on the internet,

like on Google, because like at that point

first-gen legacy turbos

were like my jam, the legacy SS

the sickest car I'd ever seen

and there was one

that just was so clean

it was very well kept

and just was styled

very well with a bunch of JDM import parts

and

I saved that photo

I didn't even know where it came from

didn't know who owned it

but I was like, this car is tight

put it as my background on my computer

and had it on my...

had it as a background on my computer

for a long time, right?

Well, this one day

I'm on Craigslist

when the dinosaurs roamed the earth

I needed some headlights for my first-gen legacy

and I was like, hey

I need to get these

I can meet you over here in Vancouver

whenever, wherever

he was like, all right, cool

and so I met up with him

and I don't remember

how I put, oh, I remember what it was

his email address

had this

specific name

and when he showed up

I was like, yo, this is going to be crazy

but do you own

like a 94 Legacy

SS that's like completely

kitted out with JDM stuff

and he was like, yeah

and I was like, bro, your car has been

like

my screensaver on my computer

for like five years, bro

like, you literally

own the sickest legacy

on planet earth currently

and he was like, oh, yeah, that's that's mine

and so it kind of became

friends about parts from him and stuff

over the years, he's a super good dude

but that is the car that I want

and his Instagram

is mrbradical

mr underscore

his name is Brad

so radical radical

but uh, yeah

it's a 94 Legacy SS

it's got, it's even got

the rear

glass

imported from Japan

for the rear, you know, the rear window

because it has the windshield wiper integrated into it

you could not get those in the States

this idiot freaking imported

the rear glass

wired it in

like no

no games with this guy like

he's got an STI

WWX swap, second gen legacy

wagon

like, oh

oh man, here's the front end on that car

oh yeah

hand it over bro, like

mr underscore radical

yep, that's the one

so yeah, if I could own any car

it would be

his 94 Legacy

sickest car ever

yeah, that's cool

so with your Forester

what kind of mods do you have

for the Forester

what have you done to it

and I guess

maybe the major stuff

so

the major stuff

okay, so let's say you have

the exact same car that I have

okay

you want to take it off-road

here are the mods

that you would need

in order to start taking it off-road

I have a 2 inch lift

from Anderson Design & Fabrication

it's just a spacer lift

spacer lifts are okay

to put on Subaru's

100%, you don't need a suspension lift

I promise you

but that's what I run, it's got the 2.5 inch

spacer in the rear to eliminate

rear suspension sag

when you load the car down

but I've got that lift in it

and it does come with the rear trailing arm spacers

which

in that chassis you need

trailing arm spacers in order to

re-center the rear wheel

it's kind of the same thing as what

current model Subaru's use

that are called multi-link spacers

just a different suspension style

but sure that means something

it does

it just means you won't have a goofy caster

in your rear wheels

the car will handle better

and you'll have more room in the rear wheel wells

so that's what I got for a lift kit

and again I really want to encourage people

that if they're wanting to lift their car

and they're just intimidated because they want to do it right

but they don't want to spend too grand on coil overs

because

there's so much talk online about how like

oh that's the only way to really lift a car

with Subaru's it's completely different

a spacer lift in my opinion is the most

efficient effective

sustainable and

reliable way to lift these cars

you can do a suspension lift but

with the spacer lifts

do you have to do like subframe drops

and do other things in order to

accommodate the

like

because I know like in the front you have

some things that you probably should

take care of because of the travel

and everything you're going to change up

some things I don't remember exactly

what it is but I know there's some stuff you have to do

yeah so if you're

as long now it's going to vary

from car to car if you're not sure

what the max lift that you

can do without subframe spacers is

just go on ADF's website

and just look at whatever the biggest

spacer kit that they

sell for your car

that's probably the max because

they've done a lot of the research to figure out

what they like

but

on average if you're staying below

a two inch lift you don't need to subframe

space the front that's what I was thinking

yeah it starts to get

real crazy when you

surpass like the two inch

mark because then it's like

and I've made videos about this

but you literally have to space the entire

drivetrain of the vehicle down

and so you're lifting the unibody

up

but you're not getting really

anything out of it because you're

bringing everything else down which is

bringing all your clearances

down the center of the car back to

where they would have been with a two inch lift

you're going to get more approach angle

more departure it's negligible

dude

and it's at least a thousand dollars

more to do it that way and now you got to

fabricate a steering shaft

your radiator hoses all

have to be modified your pit stop

mount has to be extended like

it's just a whole bunch of headache in my

opinion for really

no extra benefit

but yeah that's really all you need

in my car to get it

going is just a two inch lift

with the rear trailing arm spacers and then

you're pretty much ready to start

doing silly things

as far as the lift goes but

I did install

a set of 235

75R15

mud terrains on it

and it's about a 29 inch

tire and

in order to fit that

tire you have to be down

to just start cutting

you got to be down to take

the saws off or the

dremel or whatever and you might

you're probably going to have to remove

your a lot of this stuff

I just pulled off anyways because I was like

I'm going to rip this stuff off on the trail who cares

but just go for it

I pulled the mud flaps off

pulled the side skirts off

hammered the pinch weld in

with a sledge hammer

and cut the front bumper

so you are going to have to do

some stuff like that if you want to run a 235

7515

but it's

honestly been one of my favorite mods

is running an aggressive

mud terrain on the car

but probably not for everybody

most people same car

I would recommend a 215

75 which is what you're running

that's honestly such a good

tire for the car that I own

if you're going to have to drive the car on a regular

basis and

you know it's actually like a daily or something

that you're going to drive long distances

and you don't have to do nearly as much modding

and it's still going to give you enough sidewall

to kind of get in there and start doing some

some saucy things on the

trails but that's just

my opinion but the tires

that I'm running they're just a

they're just a cheap

tire made I think in the

Philippines they're just Accelera

MTO ones

sickest tire I've ever run

a car they're just dirt

nasty mud terrains but they work

nice nice

and let's see what else have I

done

those are the two major things and I've

got them wrapped around black rhino

boxers just 15 by

seven with a 15 millimeter

offset nice

kind of the standard Subaru thing

the offset T2 offset makes it

makes any Subaru looks so good

you gotta have the offset

yeah it helps a lot

too with clearance issues

in certain

cases like if you

were to just take a

like an old school 15 inch

Subaru wheel put the same

try to put that on a more

modern Subaru it's not going to fix

they don't have enough offset to

pull the wheel away from the brakes

and just even actually

away from in my case

like the strut towers

your tire will actually contact the strut

towers if you don't have

a wheel that's offset enough

away from the body of the car

but that's what I'm running you know I also

have owned

and currently own a set of method MR502s

like everybody's got

the Ryka stuff is good

Sparkos are sick man there's

so much good stuff out there but oh yeah

that's just what I have on the car

currently because they're lightweight

wanted to cut down

dang what other mods

you've got a front bumper too

yeah okay so funny story

during the

that happened in 2020

I literally

I don't know man it more than

10 I reached out to more than 10 fabricators

because I needed a bumper for

the car because I wanted to run a winch

couldn't get anybody to do it

I would call people and say hey

promise I'm not a soy boy I'm not

going to be in pain

these people they're building like straight axle

swap Toyotas and huge

wheelers and rock crawlers

yeah I'll pay in advance

I'm gonna fudge I just need a bumper

no luck no luck at all

and I had this one fabricators like oh yeah

I'll get you on the schedule

four months after that date I was like

bro what is the deal

you never hit me up I still don't have

a bumper and I ended up stuck and stranded

in the force because I didn't have a winch

oh man you're pissing me off

now I just absolutely despise that guy and hope

his business doesn't succeed but

but I finally found a dude

Austin Westfall in

he lives north of Vancouver

Washington he

has a

97 out back

that's lifted I think four or five

inches and

he even swapped in a dual range

transmission from New Zealand

oh nice bro this

guy's Subaru is sick and I

saw pictures of his car

a couple times and he has this crazy

front bumper and then I ran into him at a

Subaru meet and I was like dude

this is gonna sound weird but can I pay you

to build me a bumper you know I don't really

do that professionally but

he's like yeah I guess I could

yeah I just paid him

to do it so

yeah it's just a

basic you know one off

thing and

that's cool it's unique

yeah yeah it's

you know I kind of

feel bad I put him on the spot but

it gets the job done

it's seen some trees

and has pulled me out

of some stuff but that's how that happened

but man I've also got

like I just got a cheap

Harbor Freight like

basic winch on the front

but I do have

the melee design firm battery box

and the full throttle battery

because I literally

almost got stranded up in the forest

like years ago and I will never

make that mistake again

even if the battery costs more it's worth all the money

to not be stranded or to miss out on

an appointment or whatever

um

and then dude what else do I have

you've got the rooftop basket

oh yeah it's just like a cheap

like El Chivo rooftop basket

that I've crushed

with a tree

you and the trees man

oh bro all sorts of stupid stuff

so I do have on that car

I have a torque locker from

torque masters

I've got that on the car and when I installed that

I also did a rear diff breather mod

which

some people say it's unnecessary

I just felt a little better about doing it

it's where you put a

hose fitting on the rear diff

and then you've vented up into like

a spare tire well that's how I did it

just to make sure that no water

can get in through the

like cheap factory breathers

and so I did that

um

unless you put it in a small pond

yeah

believe it or not dude I

I did a drain and fill and it did not take

on water that's good

somehow I don't know

I got ADF parts on that car

I've got the

molly panel on it

I've got the

rear diff like

they make a brace for the rear diff

I put that on the car

um I'm trying to think

pretty much anything that ADF makes for that car

like I have

bought it and have it

on the car or have it sitting in the garage

waiting to go on the car

yeah and I've got it same as

you man I got the strut tower brace in the front

pitch stop mount

and uh

probably some other goodies but it's really not that

cool of a car the only other mod

that I think most people should do

so I took the ECU

off the floor board

and they sit in the

passenger foot well

and so if your car ever takes on water

and gets uh you know which

mine did actually within months of me doing this

uh it will brick the car

right your car will not

start you'll probably have

to pay a bunch of money to get a new ECU

and get it reflashed I don't even know how

that works with the pain

but yeah just cut a hole in the back of the glove box

routed it up in there

because you don't even need to cut the wires or extend them

or anything there's enough wire loom

there where I just like put it

up there and like I think I have it held

down with some velcro or something

sitting in the glove box nice yeah

yeah man save my

my butt that day

nice so besides

the uh

the putting it in the water

and some trees it sounds like

have you had any other like

big mishaps with it

um yeah dude I'm trying to think

I

have you ever gotten stuck besides the water

like in snow or mud

yeah oh yeah

oh not it not even a question

yeah so most

of my off-roading

my early off-roading

went around

like what people would refer to as real

4x4's

so I would go out a lot with

my buddy Kyle

again the dude on my shirt

he just passed away like a month and a half ago

oh man I'm sorry

yeah that's right you talked about that yeah

yeah dude Kyle's a man

he had

we kind of got into off-roading kind of like

like more heavily at about the same time

he got a 1994

Toyota 4Runner

they just had like a basic lift

but it had 529 gears

which is enough to easily

run

35 inch tires

and we would just go do the craziest

stuff and I would just follow him dude

and uh

my car has been stuck so many times

like way up in

probably like

northeast Clark County

in Washington

that thing has seen every

forest road up there and it's been

stuck like

in three feet of snow

I've gotten it stuck in the mud

I ripped the rear bumper off in a massive

mud pit that had been

I'll not explain it

it was just like this big mud

crater sort of

without showing it to you like it happens

all the time out here because of the weather

and because of the type of rigs people drive

just as actually a big ditch dude

that somebody on 40s had just

gone through and dug out and I was like

I bet I could run through that

and it just when I got to the bottom of it

just grabbed the rear bumper and like ripped it

pulled it off and I was like oh well

guess I'm going to chop my bumper off

so that's what I did

what else have I done in that car dude

I don't even know

um

there's a

there's a pretty like

infamous situation that happened up at

in like back in

2020 there's a

club out here called like the subi adventure club

or SAC for short

we think that's pretty fun

we all met up this is actually

where I first met Mike McAllister

and then there's a lady

you might have met Melissa at the

at the expo

she doesn't help back and she does a lot of

like I think so maybe

maybe I've met so many people

it's hard to keep track

oh exactly she got her ascent

stuck in the snow up there

and I was like well

I bet I like I want to run through

this snow in my forester and

I got almost all the way through the snow

I think I got the farthest of anybody but then I got

stuck too so I had to get pulled out

but I was in short shorts that day up in the

snow so there's some photos of

me somewhere floating around with I think

I was wearing like red short shorts

and oh that's funny that's my jam but

yeah dude it's been stuck it's been stuck

all the

all the toe points on the car have been

bent and mangled from being pulled out by

rigs that are way too big to be

you know dealing with

but yeah I've done some gangster's things

in that car

what uh how would you say that

I mean you've owned so many Subaru's

but like how would you say that

I guess owning Subaru's has changed your life

especially maybe recently

too

probably ruined it

just kidding

I have this addiction to Subaru's

dude you know what's great

actually you know what's even funnier

when I actually think back on my life

and all the stuff that I do now you know what

really

is crazy to think about

skateboarding which is something I got into at the age of

like

11 or 12

that's why I own Subaru's now

and that's like what got me

into the trajectory of my life completely changed

because I picked up a skateboard and thought I wanted

to be Tony Hawk

but

that's why I started driving Subaru's

ultimately was because

I grew up skateboarding and then naturally

as I got older I was like I want to try snowboarding too

that got me into Subaru's

and uh

to get to the snowboarding spots

what's that

to get to the snowboarding spots exactly yeah yeah

you got to get up to Timberline bro

from four wheels with a board to four wheels

on a car

exactly

yeah so it's actually really funny

because yeah you're right like owning Subaru's

opened me up to all these crazy experiences

that I've had and all these

people that I've met and

you know just rad

rad

like connections that I've made over the years

but it's even funnier to think how it all

like really started was

skateboarding and then just kind of like

evolved over the years but dude

like such a good community of people and

um

I think it's it's what really got me

um it's like what

kind of prompted me to start wrenching on cars

man like I think if I'd owned anything

else or just become like a normal

you know person that didn't care about cars

like if I hadn't started

Subaru's I don't think I would have really

you just been driving them

oh yes because you know and that's fine

I know a lot of people are you know that's their thing

they don't care about cars are like this is just my motor

transportation I don't have anything against that

but yeah that's not me could

never be me bro like yeah

I yeah and

I think about that like

looking whenever I see a stock

cross-track drive you know a white

stock second-gen cross-track

and I'm like you don't know how did

I like how did I drive that car

around for now and

it's like I when I

bought that car like I loved I

loved it then yeah and I had no

idea I was gonna do what I'm doing to it

now and like I look

at my car now and I'm like it's not

like a crazy build

but it's so much more to

me than what it was and

it's like I just I love it I just I

couldn't imagine not having

it the way it is I couldn't imagine like having

to go back to stock you know yeah

oh dude that's how I feel

about a lot of cars that

I've owned I mean I didn't

even start like heavily

modifying cars really until

I started lifting

them that was like

you know really when I started doing it and

part of that's just because I was poor and having

money I had to put myself through school

man you think I'm gonna go spend

1500 bucks on like coilovers or whatever

like not a chance bro

like I gotta pay what you gotta do

yeah um

but yeah it

I'm trying to think man like

I didn't remember the last time I owned

a car that didn't have any like

significant modifications

you know like yeah

I guess my first legacy

escaped unscathed

I owned it for probably

six and a half years before I

had to sell it I should

have never sold that car I would

love to find the original owner and if it's

not wrecked I if they still had

it and offered to sell it to me I

would go get a trailer and buy

it right now

but yeah dude like they've all been

modded and it just makes the experience so much

more fun because you it's like putting on

clothes that you like wearing you feel more confident

in it and yeah your mindset

kind of changes a little bit and it's a way

to express yourself to through your car

yeah yeah so

I'm guessing it's it's safe to say

you'll always own a Subaru

yeah you know unless something crazy

happens or something changes

I mean if I ever

moved back to Asia I probably

wouldn't own a car but even when I lived

in Asia I owned a Subaru State

side you know

nice

but another thing I wanted to mention

too

in terms of like how it's

kind of altered my life or improved my life

or affected it

I cannot

express to people how reliable

these cars are I'll talk to people and it's like

they're driving

a car that they bought new three years ago

and they're like oh man this

FN cars back in the

back in the shop or back in the dealer

oh man oh my car broke down

or whatever man and it's like

I got this legacy that's got

Rodknock and it's had Rodknock

for a year and a half and I'm still

driving it like

yeah you know it didn't develop

Rodknock until like

205,000 miles

on the original engine and

it started knocking because

of something stupid I did so it's not

the car's fault but like

oh they're such good cars

and you take

care of them

they drive right

they handle well

and they really are well

engineered vehicles I absolutely love them

yeah my

son's outback he's had some issues with it

and he has this thing

happen occasionally

where he'll be driving and he's got the

five EAT

automatic and the

3.6R yeah he's got the

3.6R but he'll be driving

and

and it only happens in third gear but it'll

like kind of hesitate

and then like rev

and then all of a sudden shift really hard

and then like shoot forward

and

a lot of times most of the time

his like cruise control

light is flashing his battery light is on

and check engine

light is on so he has like these lights on

you know and

there's a few things wrong with it but

I mean other than that

like it still drives like really

really well for a car that has

200 and I think like 12,000 miles

or something

that's impressive so

yeah I mean we just don't have the money

right now to like really really get it fixed

and figure out what's going on with it

but I'm guessing you guys did a fluid change

yeah so we did

we did a drain and fill on the transmission

we had

to change his

his passenger

side axle most recently

because it was the boot split somehow

and was flinging out

grease everywhere

he changed out all six

of his spark plugs on his own

and we had to change out

the AC discharge hose

and that's really about it

but

but yeah

so I mean yeah they're good cars but

we'll go ahead and get into this

this last segment which is to get to know

you a little bit better

but who is

who's been like describe yourself

man

you know this is the one question I should actually

thought about

I'm kind of an old man that just

loves original cars

I love the outdoors

but I work

you know people might think

you're just a

dude that has a podcast and runs a website

but no actually I have a

full time W2

position

with a medical company that's in a very specific niche

I'm not going to share

what that is or exactly

you know that type of thing

but

I work I do marketing

and it's crazy I just I got into marketing

you know

I have a business degree but

never had any intention of getting into marketing

or doing that and

I actually met a guy

on an airplane

about

what year are we in now

probably

I want to say I met this dude

about seven or eight years ago on an airplane

and

we just got to talk and we started talking about how much

taxes

and government regulation

just

about how much we just want to like live our lives

and be left alone type of a thing

anyways we just hit it off man

it was almost like we just had known each other

forever we just met on this really short

connecting flight

and he was like hey what do you do for a living

and I was like I work in the automotive industry

and he was like

do you want to like

if you ever thought about working in the medical industry

what I am now like what's up

you know

I manage you know like I'm the chief operations

officer of this company

um

you should send me a CV

and a resume and I was like dude say less

like get that to you in the next couple of days

and he

you know when he gave me his car he was like

we don't have any positions available right now

but I'm going to make one like

so get you in here like you

you know just talking to you like I really

enjoyed you know

working with you and whatever well anyways fast forward

to today man like he and I are like

I would consider him

one of my best friends he was at my wedding

just a couple of months ago

and that's a big deal

yeah man we've made each other

a lot of money and

yeah he's just like

and there's other people at that company that we are currently

working with that are

I would consider like really really close

nice but that's what I do

professionally that's how I actually pay the bills

and pay the mortgage but man I just do all

kinds of stuff

I try to be helpful to people

man I think that's my that's my life goal

man should just encourage other people

even though I like cyber bullying on occasion

yeah

not really not really

but now I'm just kidding

but yeah I just I love

being positive and I love going to the gym

and

like we were talking about earlier

man just being a good steward of

of our just our resources

and I think our body is

probably the most valuable resource that we

have yeah and

I got a lot of injuries but man I still

I still try to get down in the gym you know

pushing pushing some weight where I can

you know yeah but that's yeah

that's pretty much me man I just I'm just kind of

a kind of a goofy old man that just

loves Subaru's I love jeeps

I love going off-road get stuck in the snow

you know that type of

type of thing and

just learning man learning

all the time that's that's my jam

learning how to do new things like

doesn't matter what it is

a lifelong learner

I guess you could sum me up that way

that's good good to learn

heck yeah dude

what is a favorite memory from your childhood

oh dude

okay let me

man I didn't even think about any of these questions

even though I've heard you ask them so many times

I should have actually thought about this

that's why I send them out

no this is actually cool because it's just

right off the dome and I'm not actually thinking about it

so I have this memory

I have really bad eyesight

I've had bad eyesight since

since I was a

child can you see me okay

so a lot of my memories

I didn't even come to this realization until

recently but

I remember thinking like man I really don't have a lot of memories

for my childhood and I was thinking about it

I was like well I couldn't see

you know like

so how would I have vivid memories

but one of my

earliest memories is of me and

my mom

we were in the backyard at this house

that we lived in in Portland

and we were dirt poor bro like it was bad

but I have great

parents

I have this memory of me and my mom

I must have been like three

yeah probably three

and we were in the backyard just

being goofy having like a cherry

fight because there was a cherry tree in the backyard

bro we were just like throwing cherries

oh that's awesome

so that's probably like my earliest funny memory

but yeah I got all kinds

of good memories I got a good family

my parents are some of the best people I've ever known

but yeah that's

probably takes the cake

that's funny yeah that's a good memory

yeah

so we already discovered what you do

for a living if you

could do anything you want man what would your dream

job be

you know

and it's a hard one because

um I just

it's gonna sound weird but it's like making money

like

nothing wrong with that

yeah if I can make money doing something I don't hate

and I'm delivering value to

whoever I'm working for

or whoever I'm you know if I'm doing

contract work or whatever if I'm delivering

value that's really all I care about

but something that I really really

like

I like the idea

of coming into

yeah and I know this is something that people do

but I would love to be part of

a team

that comes into businesses that are

good

they're run by somebody who knows their craft really well

but they're maybe not

maybe they don't know anything about advertising

maybe they don't know anything about

you know

how to do their accounting in a

in a modern way

but coming into businesses like

that being like yo man we're about to take you

from the guy the guy that really knows

what he's doing like the mechanic that's like an

OG mechanic but is getting crushed

by this other shop out here that

actually sucks but just does better marketing

I'm about to come in here and like

be back on top homie like we're about to do this

we're about to increase your margins

because like the other people I work with

they're also business minded

and we've all you know we've all talked about

you know doing things like this

but I think that would be my jam dude like coming in

and helping people

that are business owners just like optimize

their yeah

optimize their business and like

just helping them helping them

do better and provide better

you know because if you're good at what you do

owe it to the general public to sell

your services and to get in front of people

yeah and to to remain in

business but you know like

honestly

if I could just like build

cars all

day like if I was rich I would

hire some of the best mechanics in the world

like Jay Leno style

you know

and I'd be like I need you to teach me how to weld

I need you to like help me build these cars

I just want to like learn this stuff for the rest of my life

like that would be

ultimate like lottery winner type stuff

yeah not hire people to do everything

for you but hire the people that know how to do

this stuff to teach you how to do it so that you

can do it yourself

now that's that's that's the way to do it man

absolutely and then I would document

everything so that everybody can learn from it

like that would be my jam right there

each other people

what is something that makes you want to get out of bed

every day

so

today it's

I'm not going to lie

it's been cold out here so it's a little bit tough

but

if

every day it's just like but you know you got to do what you

got to do and I'm you know what

I'm gonna stop being negative right now I

actually am super

grateful every time I wake up and I'm not

six feet under breathing dirt

that's like a good

day like even just baseline

being alive is pretty

sick and so I'm thankful I try

to be thankful and like

I don't know a good word for

but just you know having gratitude

every day I think helps me like feel a

little bit like more motivated

but

if we got a wheeling trip

somehow I'm magically

able to wake up at 4 30 in the morning

dude yeah load up

the Jeep or the Forester and get

out to where we're going I don't know what it is about

that but it helps me wake up it's the excitement

man because like every time I have

to get up really

early to go do something that I really want to

do I have no problem

but like getting up for like when I was

when I was working getting up for work

every day it was like

but then yeah

and like I could have

less sleep getting

up to go do the thing I want to do and I'm

just up and I'm like dude

let's go because you're excited you're

excited for the day you're excited for what's to

come and that's like

you know it's not that I don't want to

work a full-time job but if I worked at a full-time

job where I was

really excited to wake up every day

and go do that job it would be

like being excited to go

out on a trip or something you know

I don't want to not want to wake up

every day and

I'm getting off-tropic but anyway

no I'm glad you said that you know

um you know it's

funny

I actually wish for everybody

in the world

at least

even people that probably don't deserve it because the world's better

when everybody's doing better but

I wish for everybody to actually

like find that thing that they're

that they're gifted at that they're meant to do

on planet earth

and to be successful at it dude when I see

people

doing well that gets me so pumped

me too yeah

there's a guy maybe I

talked about this but I got a homie out here

locally that um

he was working a job that was exactly like what you just

described it like hating it

and he

he's a real talented guy and I was like man

why don't you just do handyman work

around town like start selling your services

someone will pay you 800 bucks to go

pull a stupid shrub out from their yard

like go do that he was like

okay I guess so

they started doing it and then

he just messaged me the other day

I haven't been back to my old job in three weeks

and I made like four times the amount of

money I was like

I told you brother like

like he sends me updates anytime he gets

a new job like when he bids a job

and gets it I'm like yes dude like

cheering on other people I think

it's such a valuable thing and oh of course

yeah man it like

changes your mindset to be just

yeah to be happy for other people and

when you see somebody that's like

doing well don't be like envious

jealous of them be happy for them you know

I used to be that guy

anytime I saw like a young successful

dude I was like must be nice to have rich

parents and it's like that's not going to get

you anywhere or if I saw some dude that was

jacked like oh but that guy's on steroids

you know like I was that idiot

and that all that is

is a lack of self confidence that's all

it is yeah it's like and it's more about

what you lack and

yeah you know then what they have it's

yeah but and that dude's

dad might have a bunch of money on bottom of

Lamborghini or he might be on steroids but who

cares what's that have to do with me like yeah

exactly just motivate me to do better

yeah what is something

that makes you want to stay in bed

if I'm like

stressed about

something or depressed

that makes me not want to get

up and maybe the cold

yeah the cold doesn't

help thank god

I've got I got central air

in my house so it's usually not too bad but

I don't crank it up too high in the winter

but you know what and I'll be

honest with you I've got

pretty substantial like

spinal damage from accidents

as a kid

my back

you've been hanging out with Travis Pastrana

dude you know what he takes

the cake for sure but a lot

of the chronic pain that he describes which

you know nothing that's happened to me is

nearly as traumatic as

what his body's been put through like

I can't even imagine it there's probably

not a bone in his body that's not connected

to aftermarket parts

of some sort

but you know a lot of what he talks

about when I've when I've heard him

kind of talk about this in different interviews

kind of the same thing you just have a lot of chronic

pain and you just start to kind of

learn how to live around it and work

around it and you sort of become numb

to it in certain respects

like even right now I come in pain

dude

well let's wrap this up man

get out of here

but yeah man that makes me want to stay in bed

when I wake up with a tension headache

or my pinched nerve

my back's killing me bro I'm just like

I'm fixing to go right back to sleep

what is something that really scares you

you know

what's crazy man actually

the idea of doing a podcast

really scared the heck out of me

oh yeah

big time

public speaking scares me

oh god yeah I hate it

it used to scare me a lot

and it's funny because once I started making videos

like the videos that you and I are making

for that certain platform that we've talked about

not OF

but

but doing that and making youtube videos and stuff

actually made me less concerned about public speaking

it's like I don't have as big of a problem

with it anymore

it does still

freak me out a little bit

I have a memorial service

that I'm going to have to go to in about a month

and I would typically

never push myself to talk

at a memorial service or to speak

this is one of my

best friends

I do not get

upset about people passing away

like it just doesn't bother me at all

but

this one really kind of hit me a little bit harder

and

I think I'm going to

say a few words that is funeral

and that actually scares me to even just think about it

I'm like oh yeah because I'm going to get emotional

and look like an idiot in front of all these people

yeah

I totally everybody's looking at me

yeah and I think

the hard part for me is saying something that's actually

like that actually means something

to me that's like

sentimental it's hard for me to

verbalize that stuff out loud without getting emotional

so yeah that's

pretty much the only thing that scares me bro

not much else dude

I've almost died a few times

and I just

it's not that scary once you've been right there so

everything else is cool

what is something that really excites you

oh man

honestly just

exploring dude exploring

whether it's in a car

hiking trail

I really love that

I love

seeing something new

or being like oh I wonder what's up that road

oh yeah

I wonder what's on that side trail like dude

that was an addiction for me

hiking

in the northwest to go see waterfalls

that's a big one for me dude

that's like

next level because you saw some good waterfalls

when you were in the

central Oregon area

but where I grew up

there's just tons of them bro and it's addicting

it was an addiction for me for a while

we looked it up there's like over

260 waterfalls

in Oregon we were like how

how's that even possible

it's crazy

and probably a hundred of them were within

an hour of where I grew up

absolutely crazy

yeah I couldn't even imagine that dude

that's awesome

that gets me pumped and you know what

the other thing I like again

there's something about

I get excited

at the idea of putting in a good

hard days work

and accomplishing things

and then being compensated for it

like getting paid dude

and I think it's just because of the way I grew up

like I just didn't have anything

and being able to provide a service

or work hard or whatever

and then actually be compensated for that

that's actually fulfilling for me too

it's not as glamorous as hiking and seeing waterfalls

but it gets me pumped

yeah that's good

what would be your best bit of advice

to give to someone about anything

oh dude

if there's anything you want to do

just start doing it

and get yourself around other people

probably one of the most

basic

like base level things

is to just start changing

just kind of where your head's at

you know we were talking about this a little bit

but it starts all

between the years man

if you start viewing yourself in a positive way

and start like

just

you know just believing

like yeah I can be successful

at this thing that I want to start doing

or I can do this

I can make these different things happen

that's half the battle right there

because if you don't believe it in your head

100%

that right there that'll put it into it

even before you get started

or you'll just self sabotage

but yeah man help everybody you can

you know you don't need to

you don't need to like put yourself in a bad spot

to help other people that's not what I'm saying

like you can't help other people if you're not doing good

but

yeah always be willing to say yes to

pretty much everything you can

learn new things

and yeah get around good people

all that stuff has been

just eye-opening to me

there's a lot of good people in the Subaru community

yes

absolutely man

yeah

well cool man

thank you for taking the time to record with me

now

bro this is like a little dream come true

for me homie

no it's fun

I always get excited too

and somebody has good equipment

like separate headphones and mics

you know that's like

oh dude it sounds so good

and so clean

yeah you uh

I tried to mute my audio anytime

I was like gonna adjust something

or take a drink or whatever

I do that too

I might have a couple of pops in there

but feel free to

cause it's boring I ramble a lot

I'm not gonna be offended if you trim this way down

but uh

we went from 2 hours and 40 minutes to 30 minutes

nah

that's probably about all it's worth

no no there's

there's some stuff off to trim out but

off the air stuff

yeah I just ramble a lot dude

it's okay man I think people

just like hearing conversations

especially with people that they know

and you know because it's all about

I mean yeah this is a Subaru themed

podcast but

very very quickly in the very beginning

it kind of became more about

like the person behind the car

and the account you know

because you can only talk so

long about your mods it's like

if we just came on the podcast

like hey what mods do you have on your car

okay when did you buy it

yeah exactly

there's no value to that

the only value would be like

oh I could do that to my car

what else do you

because so much about the

this community this car community

or this community that's built around

cars in a particular brand

is the people that own them

it's not

you go and you see this person's car

and you're like do that car is awesome

and then you start talking to the person

and it's all about the people

it's about the cars but it's so much more about the people

and that's what these

you know podcasts are about

is listening to people talk about something

they enjoy even if you go off

topic yeah

no man I agree dude

you know we

we talked about that a little bit when

you're on on mine you know it's like

you just get to talk to people about like whatever

man like yeah you can

kind of theme it around the car

or whatnot but

a person's experiences

and life and they're the way

they live the stuff they're into that all

influences like how

they you know mod their cars

or why they got into the cars you know

that yeah stuff but

you know people are just interesting

I see a lot of that

isn't that that popular

sentiment like oh I hate people

or oh I love cats more than I love

people and it's like okay we cool you love

cats but like human beings

are pretty awesome you know there are

some butt heads out there

but yeah humans are rad

I love them yeah

absolutely

cool man

yeah it's been fun

yeah thank you man thanks for letting me

chat your you're off all night yeah

no it's awesome what time is it there

man 11 19

I don't have to get up for anything tomorrow

that's right nice feeling

but yeah yeah it's been great

thank you oh man

thank you you're welcome

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