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Sara Choi on Hawaii's Wild Car Scene, Drifting, & Grip Racing
Sara Choi on Hawaii's Wild Car Scene, Drifting, & Grip Racing
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About this episode
Sara Choi shares her unique journey through Hawaii's vibrant car culture, discussing her experiences with drifting and grip racing. From her early days racing Hondas in Hawaii to competing in Japan and Southeast Asia, Sara highlights the differences between racing styles and the camaraderie found in drifting. She also delves into the challenges of adapting to various cars and the thrill of competition. With insights into the automotive scene in Hawaii and her passion for motorsports, this episode offers a fascinating look at the life of a female driver navigating a male-dominated industry.
Topics:
hawaii car culture
drifting vs grip racing
motorsport experiences
adapting to different cars
female drivers in motorsports
camaraderie in drifting
japanese car scene
southeast asia racing
car modifications
racing strategies
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Martini Works podcast.
I'm in a different chair.
Yeah, it's weird.
This is a monumental change, but we also, in a slightly lesser
and less important, I'm just kidding.
Please introduce yourself.
We have a guest on for this week.
Hi, I'm Sarah Choi.
Where do I look?
Hi, Sarah.
Where do I look?
So you can look at us.
They're here for emotional support.
Hi, I'm Sarah Choi.
I'm from Hawaii and I got bit by WASP last night.
I'm so sorry to hear that, you know, like allergic, right?
Because I can be like detrimental.
Yeah.
But it's my first time in Wisconsin.
Super random, by the way.
I know, walk me through why you came here.
I'll walk you through just even, OK, I flew from Japan, OK?
So I came from like an all Asian flight to like being
the only Asian on the flight to Wisconsin.
It checks out.
You can always find the difference because we fly quite a bit
is like we just came back from Monterey Car Week.
And so we were in the San Francisco area.
That has a whole style and vibe of people and clothing.
And then we got to Detroit and the clothing
is drastically different.
But then when you get to the actual terminal
for the Appleton like airport, the type of clothing
and type of human just changes 90 degrees.
So it's like I had all these different types of people
between here and San Francisco.
And I got home and I'm like, wow, there really
is a little bit of difference between Wisconsin
and California, especially San Francisco.
Of course.
I like that.
Like I go visit California or go to Texas.
I go to Florida and I would say, yo, what's up?
Someone comes to Wisconsin and it's immediately.
Why?
Why are you here?
What are you doing?
Why'd you come here?
Especially in my area, yeah.
So it's not for final ball.
But it was just for a gig.
I had to go to GT World Challenge World America.
OK.
Yeah, so my management just had all of us go and then do this thing.
How was it?
It was fun.
What'd you do?
I just had to pull some stuff.
You were just there for the vibes.
Yeah, I was just for the vibes, but it was fun,
though, because I had a bunch of my friends there.
And I ran into some friends that were working for some team.
So it eventually became really fun.
Have you been to Road America before?
No, never.
I heard great things about it, though.
Did you like it while you were there?
Or did you not really get a chance to get out of the paddock?
I didn't get the chance to really get out of the paddock.
And even I was offered a ride-along.
OK.
I was being a princess that day.
And they weren't giving head condoms.
I mean, sorry, Blakava's.
The Balaclava.
They ruin it.
They either make it or break it.
All right, I know all about this.
OK, this takes a lot of work.
And they ruin it immediately.
That's why.
So I was like, all day with like 20 people
sweat on my face and break out for a week.
I'm not faulting you on that.
I'm not faulting you on that.
Or ride in the stock GR safety car.
Yeah, that only goes like 100.
So I was like, I think I'll be back one day.
So I don't know if the audience knows,
but you, you're from Hawaii, motor sports,
all across the world.
Give me like the 30-second elevator pitch.
Who are you?
What do you do?
What do you like to drive?
What makes Sarah Sarah?
Oh, no, my 80.
I was like three questions in my brain.
We'll see which one sticks.
I just kind of fire them off, see which one lands,
and we'll see if we'll go from there.
I'm born and raised in Hawaii.
I lived there for 21 years.
And then I started off actually like a Honda girl.
I started off from like racing my EK coupe and my CRX.
And then, I don't know, somehow ended up in LA
and then somehow lived in Japan for a year.
And then like LA was like, hey, come back.
And then so I moved to LA.
And then, no, back.
Anyways, I was in LA for like 10 years.
And then now I'm kind of half in Japan and LA now.
You just recently moved, or at least
have a house over in Japan now?
Yeah, I just got a place in Japan.
Well, that's really cool.
Because I do, I compete in like sometimes
in Southeast Asia or in Asia.
And then I'm, I just signed with a team actually
with some, it's a Vito one.
It's like a Japanese formula car.
Yeah, would it be like a F4 equivalent?
Do you know?
I think it's a F4 equivalent thing.
But like still, it's an interesting thing.
It has no diff.
It's low, but it's fun.
Because that's open wheel, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're using a lot of aerodynamics
to actually like break the car.
And I'm kind of tapping into grip only because there's
more money on that side.
Interesting.
But also, yeah, I'm playing by ear.
But grip has been an interesting experience for me.
I still think drifting is the way.
Drifting is fun.
Is it more fun?
It's like a Jagger bomb.
Yeah.
And grip racing is like a glass of red with your steak,
I feel like.
I mean, there's so much to say there.
But yeah, so I started off, yeah,
I started off with Honda's and somehow gone into drifting
because I was also a huge fan of people drifting
and watching those clips back then.
What was like, what was the starting point for you
and enjoying drifting?
It was like a magazine, a movie, family, friends.
What made you like fall in love with that sport?
I mean, I feel like I would have to start from just how I even
got into the scene, right?
I mean, I was like a rebel child.
I had typical bad, I mean, rough Asian parents.
And then I like ran away from home a lot in Hawaii.
And then so I ended up, I went to like nine schools
in Hawaii on an island, right?
And so there was all these like random car kids
that I like knew and there's nothing really
much to do in Hawaii, but like do drugs or you surf
or you run a business that your family already had.
And so, or beer pong in garages, but.
I like Wisconsin.
It honestly seems quite similar.
It's like small town stuff, right?
And then I would leave home a lot.
So a bunch of car kids, they were called the Market City Boys
because they hung out in the area called Market City.
And then they kind of took me in
and I would always sleep over at all my friends' houses
and stuff and they're always going on these car cruises
every Wednesday and weekends.
And we had a, actually Hawaii had a pretty big car scene
because we had the military base.
They all had their like muscle cars out
and exotic, that was like muscles and exotic side.
And then all the car boys in Hawaii,
there's a huge JDM scene, huge Honda scene,
huge VIP scene, huge.
And that's when like I was born in,
during that time it was all like the stance,
crazy thing, the flush days and like,
you know, it's importunary and all that stuff
was still around.
So yeah, those were those days
and we had car cruises every night.
So they would, everyone would race each other.
We would meet at like a Navy exchange center
and they'd be like 200, 300 of us.
And then we would all like race against each other
and stuff and we would have like paper routes
and like, it was the days.
I miss it so much.
That's so cool.
I didn't know that like Hawaii had such a crazy car
scene.
So I don't know anything about it.
I only know one,
I don't even know one other person
that's like a Hawaii car enthusiast.
Her name is, is new.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, so like, what do you,
like what do you do over there?
And she's like, ah, you know,
there's just like a lot of cruises and stuff like that.
But I spent a lot of time in LA.
And then I was like,
you spent a lot of time in LA.
Is that like a common thing for people
just to jump back and forth between there?
Is this what like a four hour flight?
It's between Asia and LA.
News from Canada though, right?
Yes.
Yes, originally.
Yeah.
So then, yeah, I mean,
Hawaii, I mean you get island fever.
So you eventually fly out there
if you catch the island fever.
But yeah, huge car scene in Hawaii.
It was really great.
I mean, when you have like two freeways,
it's called three, H1, H2, H3.
Which, which island?
Oahu.
Okay.
I saw a few months ago,
I, and I want to guess,
and you tell me if I'm right or wrong.
You were in a civic.
You made a real post about like ASMR
and it was you driving a Honda Civic in Japan.
Was that at the Osaka PA?
Osaka, was it?
Yeah, maybe?
It's like a 45 second just straight,
exhaust note real video.
And it's you driving,
it looked like a semi-caged Honda Civic of some kind.
Was that in Osaka?
Yeah, it was in Osaka.
Ah, I knew it.
I went there one time
and there's like this ramp that when you leave
it's like underneath the highway
there's this ramp and there's a straight.
It's pretty much just goes straight and it goes up.
But photographers will sit like on the far end
cause there's like that family mart
that's right behind you.
And then you can get super cool shots going up.
But I was like doing some research
trying to figure out like what we do driving in Japan.
I was like, wait a minute, I know that spot.
If you've, you've probably spent how,
how many times have you been to Japan now?
Quite a few?
Many, many, many, many.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where do you think is the best car culture?
What area?
A lot of people. Japan?
Yeah.
A lot of people will always say like, oh, I go to Tokyo.
Tokyo is like the first place I go to.
And you know, some people would say like Osaka.
Well, if it depends on what culture of the scene you're in
or what niche you're in,
but I would say since I come from drifting
and especially the Honda scene,
which Honda obviously another sub branch culture
is the Kanjo scene, which all originated from Osaka.
And so it has a drifting basically.
Or I would say like a lot of toge driving
and mountain driving and stuff like that.
I think Keiichi was from Osaka.
You'd say Osaka then?
I might be wrong.
But in general, as let's say like a Honda girl,
I would say Osaka is where it's at.
Yeah.
Yeah, because culturally that's where the Kanjo scene was.
Culturally, a lot of subcultures
and driving styles they come from Osaka.
Tokyo's obviously lit too
because there's a lot of people there
and a lot of car culture there
that branched off across, you know?
Yeah, absolutely.
The medium cars in general are from all Japan.
So Japan in general, culturally,
is just the car scene is lit there.
What would you say is the biggest difference for you
as you've kind of kind of talked about
how you've gotten into like the grip racing side of things
or like you're starting to get into it more
with the team compared to drifting.
What's the biggest difference for you?
What's been like the biggest eye opener?
Oh, a lot.
The reason why I appreciate,
I mean, I appreciate grip driving.
She's about to talk hellish.
She's like, I really appreciate all buts.
But what I do like about drift
is that everyone has their own style of driving
and you could still win against your opponent for tandem.
Everyone has their own, I did say style, right?
Everyone has their own, I mean,
I think it's just everyone has their own style
versus grip, everyone has the same line,
everyone kind of has to basically drive
exactly the same unless you're doing racecraft, right?
And so like it's more,
the ego is more towards getting the best time
and it's straightforward with being the front guy, right?
Versus in drifting, there's so much opinions and nuances
and I think it's just more creative in a sense
where everyone has their own style.
Even like when you see footwork for drifting, right?
Everyone drives so differently.
You can, and there's so many ways to drift
and some people don't even use,
you can drift even without just using ebra,
you can just left foot it the whole way.
Or just like, everyone's throttle control is different,
everyone like enters and entries and mongees
and et cetera differently and I think that's so sick
and it brings out the driver's personality more
and especially when I watch drifting,
I can see the person's personality
if they're more like clean,
they're more like, they have bigger balls
than other person and they drive more aggressive.
Versus in grip, the respect goes towards
they're like very perfection with the driving style
and they're just, whoever's more perfect in that style.
Yeah, that makes sense.
There's a lot more character with drifting.
Yes, yeah.
I totally get that.
I have to bring it back quick to Hawaii
because I've been sitting here thinking about the whole time.
I'm just so mind blown that like,
there's not that many people there,
like population size compared to other places
and yet the car scene so prevalent.
I'm curious how the police are out there.
Are they really strict with aftermarket cars and parts
or like you guys said, you're street racing a lot too
and I feel like that's so hard to do
without it being cracked down on
in such a small condensed area.
Okay, good question.
Yeah, so in Hawaii, especially when I moved to LA,
I was like, oh my God,
because LA has the point system thing.
Yeah.
They're crazy out there.
Yeah, in Hawaii, every time you get pulled over,
you just pay it off and that's it.
Your insurance may go up a little
but there's no point system.
I like this.
Unless you do like a crazy.
I'm moving to Hawaii.
Even street racing, you just pay it off?
Yeah, you just pay it off.
You don't go to jail?
But obviously it backs up.
No, I mean, obviously.
She said Honda Civics were her favorite car.
I was probably going like.
You were going 10 over the speed, but I'm just kidding.
General speeding, general stop sign
or just running through shit is like
that kind of stuff all paid off.
It doesn't equivalent to a point.
Like LA does, if you run a stop sign,
that's a point.
If you speed, that's a point.
Versus in Hawaii, it's all the minor stuff,
like running a stop sign, speeding over like
five, 10 miles, whatever.
All just pay offable.
There's no points.
But then obviously when it gets past like 30, 50, 40,
50 miles per hour or whatever,
then it's like depending on the cop's day mood,
like you could go to jail or not,
but it still doesn't give a whole point system
where you could get your license suspended.
But these days I heard like,
they're getting more stricter with,
there's still no point system though.
You can still pay shit off.
So I think that's how we got away with a lot of things.
And in Hawaii, we have safety checks,
so it's not smog, but it's just like,
your tail lights, your everything,
ride height is 23 inches off or whatever.
And then...
How often do you have to do that?
Every year.
Every single year?
Every year with registration.
And then we used to have recon.
So recon is any modified car,
you have to have a whole list signed off
of what parts you have.
But it was stupid because as car enthusiasts,
we add shit left to right,
we took that off right too.
So it was just like, they eventually took that off.
Oh, interesting.
You had to like report all of your mods?
Yes.
Oh, that is wild.
So if a cop pulls you over
and they check your recon list,
and they see like,
you got a new exhaust when you're stuck,
then you get recon ticket.
Oh, what the heck?
I thought it was so lax for a second,
how you're explaining it.
Now it sounds crazy because like, out here...
Could you imagine the cops making fun of you?
Like being like,
this idiot put on this exhaust list.
Yeah.
For real.
They don't have that anymore
because obviously they realize it's stupid to like,
you can't catch up with that.
But now it's just the usual stuff.
Gotcha.
That's really interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a wild concept.
Between all of the places that you've been,
cause you also were just in Mongolia as well.
You're doing some drifting over there.
So drifting in Mongolia,
drifting in Japan,
drifting in America.
What do you think is like the biggest difference
between all three cultures?
So much.
Yeah.
What would you like boil it down to?
I always felt like, I'll share a little bit.
Like when I went to Japan
and I spent time in the Osaka Kyoto area,
then I went up to Ibis
and I was in Nihomatsu for a while.
Seeing how people drift over there felt very,
like at least in the casual, not competitive sense,
even though we went to FDJ,
it was like very style based.
Like it was all about just looking really damn good,
having a ton of fun,
banging it up with your friends,
and then just like going home.
And like a lot of the cars that I saw at Ibisu,
I don't think they were supposed to,
but even like down on the dirt track,
like they drive that thing home.
Like it came out of the track
and it sounded insanely loud.
Looked like it was about to fall apart,
but they had just like the biggest
shit eating grid on their face.
When I come here,
and when we're doing drifting over at like US Air,
there is still that,
but there is still like a sense of like,
the way that I drift is the right way to drift.
And I want people to know that the way I drift
is the right way to drift, you know?
And if you don't drift my way,
then you're not drifting US Air right.
Like clutch kicks, no handbrake,
or no e-brake, you know?
Third gear entry, no second gear.
It's like it almost seemed like there's more
opinion on how you should take a track.
In your opinion, has there been a big difference
when you go from different places across the globe
on how that's done?
So I would say nitpicky stuff like that,
it is universal.
I think I sometimes get like that too,
where like I do believe, okay.
So, talent everywhere.
Are you a clutch kick early
or are you a handbrake early?
I'm a clutch, I'm a flick early.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Respect.
All right, we'll let it go.
Flicking, no, okay.
I'm talking about, let's say there's a straight
and you're mongering it three times.
Okay, that's fair.
Okay, that's, so okay, I guess the question is basically
like how everyone kind of like stuck up
with drifting, right, basically.
So like, I would say that the better the driver you are,
naturally you will be like, okay, yeah,
on this entry you should be in,
you should be flying in fast and third gear entry,
unless it depends obviously on your gear ratio.
But like, ultimately, if you're, you know,
you understand how good of a driver you have to be
with drifting, like, you will already naturally know
like that entry you should be doing in third gear.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
Versus like, I mean, you would already know
that a less experienced driver,
even though they could be in third gear for that entry,
they would, if they're doing it in second stuff,
they're still like a more seat time there
that they need to do.
So that, I think.
That's universal.
Universal.
What's the biggest difference?
But the biggest difference is for sure,
the style aspect of things.
I mean, Southeast Asia, there's only so much that they can get
and they're not really concerned with,
most of the time, they're not really concerned with style.
I feel like style, I mean, so drifting is a huge,
huge world, right?
And there's so much self-neutius.
There's the ones that really care about style
and like, everything has a package like fine about.
They're like, super, super style.
If your car looks like shit, you're not.
Yeah, you're not going in.
Authentic wheels only, baby.
You want to see paint not wrap.
Show me the good stuff.
Which I respect, I love that too.
Sometimes I feel like I don't care
and it's like wearing like joggers out, you know?
Like a hoodie, like, then there's like good life
and all that other stuff and all these other grassroots
like events that like don't care, right?
So I think the grassroots side,
I mean, I would say like Southeast Asia,
Mongolia and stuff, they don't care about style at all.
I mean, some do obviously,
but it's not about, it's very just who drives the best.
And Mongolia was definitely like that.
There's no style.
Whatever car runs is the best.
And get out there, baby, battery.
Literally, I was thrown like three cars in the last minute
and I just, whatever worked, I just rolled.
That happens in every Southeast Asia competition actually.
And yeah, there's, I mean,
we have Saphira's and stuff, they cut off.
Like hell, yeah, yeah.
That's like the shop here.
Whatever car runs is what we're taking to Road America.
That is exactly what we're talking about.
We're welding with no mask on the street,
like outside of a pit.
And like it's like a safety sequence.
Yeah, and just whatever you can get at that point
and whichever team has the most money.
Cause Southeast Asia, you're either like really,
really broke or you're really, really rich.
And so like every team you can see out there,
it's like a huge difference of what, you know,
whatever they're able to get.
And then, yeah, America, I would say, you know,
it's economy-wise and so we have more freedom
of having style as packaged with driving and everything.
So I would say that's America's got some style.
Yeah.
You have a favorite spot?
I love them all in their own unique way.
Yeah, they're all such a different experience.
Like in Southeast Asia, like you don't give a fuck.
You know what I mean?
You're just out there to drive.
No one's judging you.
No one's judging your car.
Everyone's just judging the driving.
And so like there's a beauty to that too,
depending on like how you're feeling that.
You know, something you just like,
ah, I just want to drive.
Yeah, go and have fun.
Yeah, and then there's times where you want to wake up
and dress up and then like, you know,
feeling like, you know, whatever.
So like I also appreciate going to like find about stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, I've never been to the US stuff,
but I like all the Japan stuff when it's about style
and also driving stuff.
That's fun too in its own way.
And like, but also I feel like
not everyone cares too much about,
no, they do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
They do, they do, they do.
Yeah, that's how it goes.
But I feel like there is...
Come on, there has to be like one track.
Like Sarah, there's one track.
You can only go to this one track.
I haven't drove it all though, so it's hard to say.
That's fine, but like what right now?
You're like, I would really like to go back to blank.
You know what?
There was this really fun track in Texas.
It was like a cop, like a facility, I forget.
It sounds wild.
I'm gonna randomly drop the Easter egg.
A cop facility you went drifting?
Yeah, I went drifting at a cop facility in Texas.
Don't really recall where, when.
Track, but is that a cop's facility?
Indeed, I'm like testing there.
But it was like a third entry track
and then it was like randomly fast
and then it was like a half ABS thing.
All right.
We're gonna take a small break
and I'm gonna find out what random cop facility,
and that's gonna be a chat GPT question right there.
I don't know why that was a first thing
that came to mind.
I'm gonna use a gallon of water to figure out.
Where this track is.
But we do wanna say, we're gonna take a small break.
Then we'll come back to asking Sarah a bunch more questions
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All right, we are back.
And I'm happy to be here.
Yep.
With that being said, Sarah,
you have a few different cars out there.
Built, drive, everything in between.
What's like your go-to?
I don't have a few anymore.
You don't have a few anymore?
I still, never mind.
Never mind.
Take that back.
I do.
Oh, so you do have a few.
Thank God, I thought the audience
was gonna call me the liar.
It's like, God damn, we're starting
the second segment off rough.
What do you have in the arsenal right now?
What's in the garage?
I have a Nest 1000 CR that I've had for 12 years.
Wow.
Club racer.
I don't think it looks as-
Don't do the math.
Owned a car that long.
I haven't either.
I can't-
I've never owned a car that long.
Never, no.
Don't do the math.
I got it 12 years ago from Hawaii.
And then I have an FD.
Nice.
What's inside of the engine?
Okay, all right, good.
Single turbo.
Oh.
Correct answer.
Yeah.
Is it modified?
Yeah, fully drift.
Wait, wait, and then I also have-
No, no, no, no, I don't.
It has an Indonesia, but that's been-
Yeah.
Yeah, cars all over the world?
Wait, why do you not but do?
It's complicated.
That's how most family conversations start with me, too.
No, but yeah, no, no, no.
And then I am looking for a 180 right now in Tokyo.
No, sorry, Osaka.
180?
Or is either a S13 or a 14 right now.
Why specifically that?
Yeah, I was gonna say.
Talk to us about S13 through S15.
You just like the analog driving experience?
Yeah, I mean, I started off with boats, basically.
I mean, and especially competing too, I was driving,
I mean, I started off with the Altezza
and then I would drive GSs
and I was just like, I'm swinging FDs, right?
There are like, the pivot point of all those drift cars
are like so different, they're, I'm like, it's boats.
But I got thrown as 15 in Mongolia.
And yeah, I get it.
Do you like it?
Yeah.
Is it SR?
No, it wasn't, it's 2J, I'm a 2J girl.
But I mean, like, okay, so, so, so, so,
hear me out.
So then that's it.
Gels, Gels is not even on the podcast.
Sarah said that and Gels had his mouth open, gaped.
I don't know, I don't know if he's a fan of that decision.
See, Gels has an S13, KA, naturally aspirated
with like 16 horsepower.
And no matter, no matter how much shit we talk,
no matter how much we try to get him to sell it,
to buy something that's more reliable,
more powerful, easier to drift, easier to own,
probably cheaper to modify.
In the long run, yeah.
In the long, he still won't do it.
Well, is he starting off drifting?
Well, okay, let me, let me add additional color
to this story.
No, he's been drifting for half a decade
and he is still using a KA naturally aspirated
16 horsepower 240SX.
That's like six different colors.
It wants to start on fire constantly,
but he won't let it
because it actually drains oil faster
than the oil could ignite.
It's just like, I feel like people
that don't want to ask chassis is kind of like a cult.
Like once you're in it, you have to stay committed to it.
It's like we did a, we did a video on,
what was it, an FRS that was VR6 swapped.
Yeah, yeah.
And like it was a VR6 swapped FRS
that was drifting at grid life.
And like the top comment was, uh-oh,
the Volkswagen guys have learned how to drift.
Yeah, yeah.
Cause it was like-
Once you're in it, you don't leave it.
You stick with it, yeah.
Do you think S-Chassis people are kind of the same?
The KA thing is different.
That's like you're really, really stubborn
or like you really-
Gels, he is really, really stubborn.
I'm so glad you're affirming this.
Or like you're, I mean, no, I don't know.
I take offense.
You're overdoing the S-Chassis cult
and you're really, really want to make a point
that like I'm going to stay like this
and KA is like the S-Chassis.
Like it's like more like-
Yeah.
Proven your point.
Yeah.
Jesus.
This is so great.
Of the S-Chassis cult, do you get what I'm saying?
I get, I understand.
Yeah, like I don't know how to explain it.
Gels doesn't have a microphone
so he can't fight back.
It makes it great.
Meaning bad, like hardcore, like stubborn.
Yeah, so I, S-Chassis are weird
because I've driven a couple
and I drove an SR S-15
and I also have done it on the Sim
and it's like the rev,
the need to keep it in the revs for power is like insane.
Like you need to have it up above 4,000
otherwise it feels like it's just doing nothing.
And then I hopped in a C5 Corvette
and I was like, oh, this is incredible.
This is what low end torque
and low end power actually feels like this is great.
And then I got in a C6, same thing.
No forced induction,
just lots of naturally aspirated power
and it felt incredible.
What do you think is like your perfect recipe
for a drift car?
I don't know, I'm a fan of 2Js
and also people are gonna hate me on the LA side
but like I love LSs and.
Oh, just, just, just.
Yeah, I think for,
I love low end torque style drifting
but then I also love like really, really opposite side
of like super high end.
Like just banging it off the rev limiter
and just letting her eat.
And actually it was my first time driving an SR last week.
Oh really?
Yeah, in Japan, I was at, a week and a half ago.
I was at Toku Shimaland
and that's the second time I drove a S-Chassis
which was my friend Toshi's S-13.
And yeah, I get the chassis end of things
but I'm still, I think need to drive a Trout
that's a little bit more to see.
But I get it, but I still think, yeah.
Yeah, no.
I choose what I pick.
I mean, yeah.
I feel like SR Jarvis also only drove SR
like so many times
and they haven't really gave other, you know, I don't know.
That's kind of how I feel about certain, certain.
Trying not to talk so much.
Yeah, it's like,
some people get like into their thing, right?
And this is like any, anything.
They like to get into their manufacturer type
of BMW, Nissan, whatever it might be.
Or like they get into their one type of motorsport,
drifting, grip racing, autocross
and like as they get more invested
in that single thing,
they think that that thing is better
than all the other things no matter what.
You've done grip racing and drifting now
and open wheel and now sports car.
What's like your favorite elements of that?
Like what do you enjoy?
Why are you doing so many different things?
Why not just pick one and stick with one?
Oh no, I only picked actually drifting my,
I mean, other than Honda's.
I only stuck with drifting.
And then obviously I said like grip driving
just started like being thrown in my face here and there.
And I know that the money is there.
But I really do wanna,
I did really wanna experience like a different type of sport.
I feel like it was like going from skateboarding.
I mean, sorry, it came from like snowboarding to skiing.
You know what I mean?
So like, I was like, oh, what if like,
if I try grip driving,
it will help me as a real round,
or like English, sorry.
Well rounded driver, yeah, totally, totally.
And especially from coming from drifting to grip,
I feel like it would be a more easier move
to learn.
So like, yeah.
And I think drifting though, for the adrenaline part,
it's still hits more, yeah.
What's like, what is his name?
Robert Thorne, he's an FD here in America.
He started grip racing.
That's how his career started.
And then he won, I think whatever it is that he's doing,
I can't remember if it was in a BMW or Miata.
And then he went into FDJ,
I think his first year,
you guys can quote me if I'm wrong.
And then won it.
And he's like, yeah, I just learned how to drift.
Because it was fun, I applied what I learned in grip racing,
and then just applied it to drifting.
And yeah, this has been really fun.
And then now he's in FD.
And I think Robert Thorne is also,
I might be just making shit up at this point,
but I'm pretty sure he's sponsored by ASM.
And ASM is like two hours south of here in Madison,
or near Madison.
Yeah, it's really fun because obviously in drifting,
you have to go at a really high speed
and be in a really high RPM
and then do high speed entries in the very last minute
and blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
So that translated into grip for me.
So where it like speed wise is not the issue,
but I realized my main issue is
I can't trust the tires to grip when I'm flat out.
That's kind of been a lot of autopilot like mental thing
that I've been trying to work on, trying to switch.
And other than that, it's also boring.
Which part?
Grip racing?
It's boring?
I feel like it'd be terrifying.
I don't know what it is.
Maybe it's boring in a sense where it gets so repetitive.
I feel like it's so long.
Maybe my sessions are too long.
I don't know.
So you mean to tell me that you wouldn't find yourself
in an endurance race?
I did find myself in it.
I got thrown in an endurance race last year in Korea.
I was all make avante thing.
Whoops.
Yeah.
But anyways, it was all make car race.
Yeah.
And it was all make car race.
And I was thrown into it
and I was doing like 30 minute sessions in the summer.
And then I got just thrown into
the same weekend of competition.
And I forget where I was going with this.
What was the question?
Endurance racing that you don't want to do it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it was, it's sorry.
It's not boring, but drift.
You can just say it.
You just have more fun drifting?
I mean, I feel like that's totally fair.
Also, I noticed since being in both environments,
drift environment, I love the people more
because they're like, ah.
You know?
And they're like, I feel like there is way more ego.
I mean, there's every equals everywhere,
especially in motor sports, right?
And then, but like in grip,
like they're more, more, more serious.
I totally get it
because we were just at grid life.
Yeah.
And I'm running around trying to film content with people
and they're doing both.
They're doing grip driving and they're doing drifting.
I was in the drift section the whole time
because those guys were out there partying.
Everyone was down to do stuff.
And then the grip people were just like,
I need to focus.
I have to make up.
You need to win.
I need to make up a hundredth of a second.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong
when my car just exploded.
Yeah.
I'm like, holy shit.
I'm gonna go over by the drift people.
Well, that was funny
because last year I did the track battle
for good life at Road America Summer Apex.
And it felt like that.
It was very much like, oh my God,
I need to find this
and I need to find a second here
and a three quarters of a second here.
And then this year I did drifting
and I just hung out
and I drifted the whole weekend.
You know, did like a hundred laps.
It felt like I was just smiling
like a silly little idiot the whole time.
And I'm like, I am having a terrific time.
I'm having so much.
Last year I was like, oh my God,
if I do not figure out
where this three quarters of a second is,
I'm gonna cry.
I feel like we should have Lars here to defend it though
because like I do love people
that are so passionate about grip driving
and trying to have the perfect lap
and always trying to do better than the last time.
I think there's a lot of competitiveness to it
that is appealing.
I get it.
But I see how drifting is just more fun in general.
You're like breaking the limit
where grip driving,
you're just trying to find the limit.
I think what makes, in my opinion,
what I really enjoy about grip racing
is not doing it every single time.
Like it's not the lap that makes it a ton of fun.
It's finding the right inputs
that get you like the output that you want.
Like when you hit an apex like just right
and you're carrying, you know,
five, six, seven miles an hour more speed
than you were before.
And it just like clicks.
That feeling is super satisfying.
I think it's always hard to find
the joy in just like HPDE
when you're just going out there
and you're just trying to like find time
and you're just trying to drive around a race track
and go as fast as you can.
But when you start opening up
like that wheel-to-wheel stuff
and you start trying to hunt for placements
or you're chasing around people
that are making mistakes,
I think it can get a little bit more fun.
Track battle for me was a blast.
I felt like I couldn't do it all the time
because yeah, you are just chasing a clock.
And I can be kind of boring.
I think it's fun when you're doing the whole
like wheel-to-wheel and like passing cars.
Running people off.
Running people off.
And then like racecraft,
I think it's a whole another like EQ, IQ.
That's fun, isn't it?
Yes, that part is fun.
And then like the whole like,
you're challenging yourself with a better time.
I get like the fun of that.
Can you explain to the chat
when you say racecraft, what do you mean?
I would say like the psychology of like
being in a wheel-to-wheel race.
So like, let's say like,
like strategizing like when I should pass
or should I pass here
or like reading the room basically
of like the car behind you
or in the car in front
or left to you or whatever.
Like it's like, it's just like,
just reading the room of the race.
And like faking them out sometimes.
Like poking out and then going back in
and they're like, oh my God,
is she gonna pass me?
And then next thing you know,
they miss their braking zone.
You're laughing at them.
Yeah, so you need to be like smart in a sense
and like very aware of your surroundings first of all
and then like have the IQ of like really shit.
While you're also focusing on driving at the same time.
And then third, having the balls to really pass or not
and making those moves of the race-cross strategy.
Is there ever like a time where you've either driven
or you know, maybe race grip or drift?
Where you just like, you felt like you got it.
Like is there a story that comes to mind?
Like a pass or a competition
where you just really felt like you did a good job?
Like as in like, yeah, that was a good lap.
Yeah, like when I look back,
like there are certain moments from like,
damn, when I went to this track and I did this thing,
I felt like I really fricking had it.
Okay, maybe not in that sense,
but I know that like, so over the last like last year,
the whole last year,
I got thrown like so many different cars
for just any drift event I pulled up.
It was never, I've never driven those cars.
I've never, I don't know anything about them.
And I just have to compete in them the next day, right?
And so like that really stressed me out a lot last year
because it's not like, I mean, that's hard to do.
Like you don't know this car, right?
And then you just have to jump in it
and it's not your car either.
And there's just a lot of factors.
And then last year was the first time really going pro
in all these competitions, like straight up.
So like it was just a lot of factors.
And then, but the Mongolia competition last month,
when I was thrown the S15 and then to drive it,
literally I just did two laps in it the night before
and I had to qualify it in the next day.
I think my qualifying run, like I was really,
it was a solid lap and that's when after I got out.
Well, I had a small hiccup
because one of the shocks just blew after that.
I mean, during that lap, but either way, like I got out
and then later I was just like, oh shit,
like I'm really glad that I was thrown
all these broken cars last year
and like just thrown in any car
because like now as a driver it helped me adapt
into all sorts of little different builds and nuances
and got me really in tuned with the feeling of driving
versus like just knowing one car solely as a driver.
You know what I mean?
So I guess that moment I was like,
oh, I'm glad that all that trial.
I mean, all those experience happened
even though it stressed me out all those events.
Every single time.
It sounds like it'd be a little stressful.
It sounds like you're showing up to places
and you don't know what you're gonna drive
or what you're gonna do.
I'd be panicked.
I'd be frazzled.
I had to adapt to so many broken cars.
It was like sometimes like I couldn't drop an idol
like to a certain portal or the car was shut down.
So like it was like insane stuff that I had to navigate
and now I was, but now like I'm grateful for them.
She's like the mission impossible
where it's like the Tom Cruise of situations,
but she's just with cars.
There's one even.
You have to get done with this
otherwise it's gonna blow up.
You must keep the RPMs above 3000 RPM.
There is a time where my serpentine belt
flew off nine times in a competition.
It was like Southeast Asia levels.
This is like literally Southeast Asia stuff.
Like it's super fun and they had bad-ass drivers there,
but obviously they can't get a lot of things.
So it was crazy.
That's wild.
It's crazy.
It'd be super frustrating.
I'd be getting pissed off by like the fifth one.
I'd be like, I'm done.
You'd be like, guys, come on, zip tie.
I don't know what you gotta do.
Keep it on there.
Yeah, but it humbles a lot of,
I mean it makes me appreciate a lot of things.
Like I know a lot of American drivers or Asian drivers,
if they go to Southeast Asia,
they'll be like entitled as fuck, like what the fuck.
But then Southeast Asia really made me
just be okay with so many situations.
You said that driving a grip,
you're hoping to take away,
become a better overall driver.
Is there anything that you have taken so far
from grip driving that you think you can apply
to drifting or vice versa, I guess?
No.
I think if I came from, sorry.
I just hear like lean in like, no.
I think if I started off as grip driving
and then I went into drift,
there is a lot of, wait, no, is that opposite?
I just think coming from drift,
it's like when you go into grip,
it's not much you have to newly learn other than hand work
and I mean, there is things to learn.
JK, what am I talking about?
I don't know what I'm talking about.
That's okay.
No worries.
I think it's cooler, drifting.
The whole, I'm literally just gonna send you
the two and a half second clip of you saying
in WhatsApp.
No, I think it's been really fun to learn.
I see a lot of people kind of going across the board
in motorsports, they've started in drifting,
they go to grip, they go into grip,
then they start drifting and it is fun to watch
the them try to tackle it
because some people either seem to get it
or they really, really don't.
You know what I mean?
And I feel like understanding both is a ton of fun.
I will say, I think from like a smiles perspective,
I do quite like drifting.
It is just casual, fun, grill out afterwards
once the track is turned down, off,
have a couple of brusquies, chill, relax
and then you get to do the next day all over again.
It's kind of fun.
I think it's really, I think it's harder for grip people
to go into drifting than drifting to grip.
Why do you say that?
Because it's just a lot of counter steering
and just such a different style of driving.
It's like, it's more in, it's a different intensity.
Yeah.
And it just goes opposite of, like I mean like,
from grip you have to learn how to,
like all the wheel for drifting
and I feel like a lot of grip drivers
will have a hard time like transitioning into that too.
There's just a lot of stuff
and like they're so used to it.
Because it's like against the rules.
Exactly.
So the things that you do in drifting,
you would never ever be allowed to even do
or think about doing in grip racing.
Like you just let go of the steering wheel,
you're an idiot, you're gonna die.
So muscle memory wise, I think it's way easier
for drifters to go into grip driving
because muscle, like for drifters,
like letting go of the wheel and holding it
is like nothing, no difference.
And then also like there is a,
you wanna, sometimes like there's drivers
that love to be super grippy.
So like, we already understand that concept
of like grip, right, of the levels of
and the little nuances of grip.
Even a little bit of like, you know,
just like all levels of grip,
the grip the drifters understand.
So going into grip driving,
I don't think that's a big issue.
Just the only issue is again,
how what I'm dealing with is trusting
that the tire is a very, very, very, very grippy tire
that won't slide out while you're flat out.
So like stuff like that, I think drifting to grip is like.
So you're saying like losing traction
when you're going on a straight
and you're just got the throttle all the way down.
Gels doesn't know anything about that
cause he's got 16 horsepower and a K to 40.
For Gels.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, I just had to circle it around.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
Sarah's had some controversial opinions
in this podcast thus far.
But the one that she could not be more wrong about
actually took place outside of the recorded time,
which was her saying that the latest season
of Demon Slayer was actually any good.
And I'm convinced that she's glazing it
and that is a terrible season and I'm not wrong.
So just mostly telling people that,
not really a question.
Anything you'd like to share?
I think Alex is trying to be too cool.
I think he just got into anime recently
and he's trying to overcompensate
by saying Demon Slayer sucks.
Don't say that to me.
Demon sucks so he can fit in.
Princess Mononoke, OG.
Oh my God.
Don't even talk shit.
I will throw hands.
That's already a flag.
A red flag?
That is the greenest of green flags.
Everything you said has been wrong apparently.
I haven't seen Demon Slayer so I can't speak.
What's the top three anime then?
Attack on Titan.
Of course.
I'm glad we can agree on that.
OK, good.
Seconds.
I'm a huge Tokyo Revengers fan.
You seem like the Tokyo Revengers fan.
Yeah, because Mikey's so high he's my ex-husband.
Axe, you've already decided it's not going to work out.
Levi's the other one.
Yeah, he's my first.
Levi, back off.
Yeah, we're in a toxic relationship.
And then third.
With both eyes or just one?
One.
What?
Levi?
Yeah.
What do you mean one?
I'm Attack on Titan.
What do you mean there's only one Levi?
Yeah, but with one eye or two.
Because he loses the spoiler alert.
At the end, he loses an eye.
Whatever, I don't know.
Would you love Levi at his worst,
AKA the end of the show?
That's what relationships are for.
Or only his best when he was running around in season two.
Because in season four he wasn't moving around that much.
I don't know.
I love my short king.
He's like five, three.
Did you Google it?
He's really short.
He is really short.
If Levi drove a car, what car would Levi Ackerman drive?
He would very match in civics because they're usually like.
You think Levi would be driving a Honda Civic?
Well, he should be eye-high with the window right here,
like a car driver.
Like up here?
Yeah, and his seat like really low.
Lean back?
Yeah.
Oh, I get it.
I'll take it.
All those Civic drivers?
Yeah, who would be one of those?
It says Tokyo Revengers, Attack on Titan.
What's the third one?
Third one, so hard.
There's so many.
Right now, I mean.
Don't say Demon Slayer.
Don't say it.
I mean it's up there though.
One Piece?
No, no, no.
My homie and his girl is a huge One Piece fan.
He has a Wisconsin Road of America One Piece license plate.
Does he?
Yeah.
I can't actually commit the seven years of my life
to watch One Piece.
It's just too big at this point.
Supposedly there's a one pace.
So you can.
It's just the actual.
You can watch 10 episodes in like, in 30 minutes.
Oh, I like that.
It's like, I can do that in the beginning.
It was like back when Bleach.
Because I used to watch Bleach and Naruto and stuff
all online.
They had dedicated websites that they'd
rip the episodes off.
And they would label them on if they were Canon or filler.
And then you could filter it.
And I remember watching Bleach.
And it was like, total episode count, 200 and something.
Just the Canon stuff was like, 78 episodes.
Like for every Canon episode, they
had like three goddamn fillers.
It was the worst.
There's so much to it.
I'm trying to buy you time.
I know, I know.
I read the room.
Hunter, Hunter, I all love it.
Hunter, Hunter.
I love all the mainstream.
And I also like the, right now I'm
watching Kaiju number eight, Windbreaker,
Dandanan, Sakamoto days.
You like Dandanan?
I do.
I do too.
It's pretty OK.
Yeah.
What the f?
It's pretty OK.
It's pretty all right.
Oh my God.
See, he's trying to act cool again.
The problem is, listen.
It's OK.
Listen.
They're so cool.
Oh my God.
You think they're all whack.
No, no, no.
I think it was so different.
What do you like, vanilla ice cream?
No.
I like confetti.
I do like confetti.
That's just spruced up in the ice cream.
I really try to find myself a little bit too.
You know what?
Hating all these anime is more comfy.
No, I only like things to do.
I only, I'm just saying that Demon Slayer last season
isn't that good.
The rest I agree with you, especially Attack on Titan.
Attack on Titan is perfect.
It's a perfect anime.
Parasite is also a really good one.
I would, I would.
I haven't seen any of these.
I feel like such a, I'm sorry.
I love Japanese culture.
I thought I liked some anime.
I haven't seen any.
I will be honest with you.
I love Family Guy.
My favorite anime is like Family Guy.
South Park is great.
I will confess, I think last year was the first time
I had ever watched the first Pokemon.
Oh, wow.
The movie with Mewtwo and Mew.
Portion of your childhood.
How was a Yu-Gi-Oh kid?
So that's just saying now.
You can do both.
There ain't no line in the sand, brother.
There was back then.
On the school bus, you either traded Pokemon cards
or Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
You did not trade Yu-Gi-Oh for Pokemon cards.
That wasn't a thing.
No, you don't do that, but you can do both.
You can get a little hustle over here.
You get a little hustle there.
You want to be shitty in both trading cards
or do you want to be good in one?
I'm a huge Pokemon whore.
Yeah?
Yeah.
What's like your Pokemon of choice?
I have Pikachu livery on my Alteza back in Indonesia.
And a Gengar on my other one.
Yeah.
I liked the, I liked the, what is it?
Slowpoke?
Is that the dock that walks around?
Psyduck.
There you go.
That's the one that's constantly confused.
I also bombs talk so much.
I like the chans too.
I knew instantly you were going to say some fuck shit.
I was ready for it.
You got it.
You redeemed yourself.
Yes, Psyduck.
Yours is what?
Gengar?
I like Gengar, yeah.
Oh.
I like Gengar.
I love Gengar too.
If Gengar was a car, what would it be?
Say your own car.
No, what?
No.
He had an old Evo.
That kind of, it was gray and purple.
I had that style.
I had a Gengar sticker on it.
Yeah.
My Evo 10 back in the day.
Yeah, that does kind of fit because like,
he's kind of like a stout, chubby Pokemon.
He's big.
Shoulders out kind of guy, right?
Yeah, so I guess Evo 10 works.
Oh, physically, you guys, I think you're physically.
Yeah, yeah.
I was thinking like old school Mercedes blacked out.
That's sick.
Like what do they call them?
The Hammers.
You know, like the old Mercs that were just called.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I saw a few of those at Monter and Carweep, by the way.
And those things are the coolest fucking thing
in the world because like the windows don't have frames.
So there's like, no, what do they call it?
A pillar.
Whatever it is, the whole window just comes down.
Oh, yeah.
So all these guys were like 55 plus.
But these cars were immaculate.
Windows down, blasting like Ice Cube.
I was like, these guys, they're living right.
Exotic scene too, like I don't know anything.
I don't know what I'm looking at.
I went to Gumball and I remember like there was all
these like Bugattis, one out of blah, blah, blah.
They all looked the same.
Yeah, that's fair.
When I went to.
I don't know which one.
Exotics get crazy.
Yeah, I really don't know anything.
At Pebble Beach was kind of the same thing
because I got to go to it for the first time.
And all the cars I knew were like the cars
nobody cared about.
I was like, that's such a cool Ferrari
because it was red and had the Ferrari nobody cared.
But like the crazy slant nose Hispano H6C was like,
everybody was like, oh my God, I can't believe that.
I'm like, I don't know what the fuck that is.
Like I don't even know car that is.
Yeah, I don't get it.
OK, what's your favorite Pokemon?
Gengar.
Yours is too?
Oh, you just got it.
That's because he's the coolest one.
Is he?
He never really won anything in the show, did he?
That doesn't make you the coolest.
Well, he's really strong.
And then also it's like all dark.
And I'm a Scorpio, so I like Gengar.
See, I like the attitude of, what's his name?
Charizard?
What's the big guy?
Big Charizard.
He was pretty sassy in the beginning seasons.
Yeah, is it Charizard?
Yeah, I liked how he was always,
and he was always willing to throw hands with everybody.
That was always my favorite because he fought Mewtwo,
right, like the big, the best Pokemon
in one of the movies.
And like, what would be a Gyarados?
Gyarados?
You.
Doesn't he look like a Gyarados?
Look like a, no, Gyarados too mean, aggressive.
I don't, I don't.
Mean.
I'm like a.
He has a more face structure.
He has like that, like a good face structure here.
A Gyarados.
I don't know who that is, is that?
If you had some fangs.
Who's Gyarados?
Do you know Magikarp?
He's like dripping, he still doesn't know.
No, it's like a big blue flying water dragon.
Yeah, Angry Fish.
All right, I'll take it.
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, I think, yeah,
because I remember Liking Charizard
because I think Ash catch him through the ball, right?
Yeah.
This has a point.
Like literally came out of the ball,
looked at Ash and Ash was like, fight him.
And like without missing a beat,
Charizard went like through down against somebody,
even though he knew he was going to lose.
It was a good episode.
I remember watching it on YouTube one time
because I was trying to get into Pokemon.
I feel like Alex is more of like a Mr. Mime.
I don't know who that is either.
Google it.
I don't like the sound of this.
I prefer the water dragon fish.
That's the one I'd rather be.
I don't like this.
I don't like it at all.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, I'm pretty stout.
Big, strong, big.
I think he's like a meek, small.
What's a small Pokemon?
There's a lot of them.
Guys, I'm running out.
I played RuneScape and Yu-Gi-Oh!
And that's it.
I wasn't much on anything else.
I did watch every single character, though.
He tried so hard to get like that Otaku title for him.
I don't know what that is either.
Otaku is like an anime nerd, but also like all these other ones.
You had an anime rap, a Pokemon rap on your car.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK, let's set the bar there.
I did not.
I thought you were trying to fit in right now.
No.
I'm really bad at that.
So what's next for you?
Where are you off to next?
What's the next big goal for Sarah?
Next big goal.
I am, I don't know, just living.
I am still driving.
I still want to become a better, better, better, better,
better, better driver.
Obviously, I said looking for my drift car in Japan,
trying to get more seat time in.
And yeah, I am trying to get into fashion and do other things
and tapping stuff.
I'm tapping into acting.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that how you're able to act like such a cool person
on the podcast?
Funny, always cool.
Hee hee.
Thanks.
Good one.
I am never coming back to this case.
After the anime argument, Alex just out for blood.
She's literally going to unfollow me in black.
No, don't want any part of it.
No, no, no, no.
This is the favorite vibes.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
I actually, to be honest, last year, it was so stressful.
I'm also very blessed to experience Southeast Asia
competitions and all that.
But it did get really stressful.
So this year, I kind of was like, OK,
because the traveling, everything just took a toll on me.
So this year, I kind of stepped back and canceled half
and just wanted to find my, I wanted
to drive for fun again and not always be under pressure
every time I needed to drift again.
Sure.
Yeah.
That sounds like fun.
Well, wish you the best of luck.
Thank you.
And we know you're going to be coming back to Wisconsin
a million times, because there's so much to do here.
Yeah, I love being a rare Pokémon here.
Yeah.
It gets my hate, is the tourists that are always here.
The over-tourism.
Yeah, of Wisconsin is just insane.
From people from LA, Hawaii, Japan, it's out of control
right now.
We need to get the water guns.
We need to start squirting them so that they go back home.
I'm like main character energy here.
OK, well, we're going to have to open the garage door
so that Sarah's ego can fit out of here.
But if you want to follow Sarah's career,
we'll actually put some information
in the description of the podcast, as well as the YouTube
video.
You can go follow her on there.
She's got a lot of really cool stuff she's got going on.
I really enjoy the aesthetic, too, of what you have.
And we wish you the best of luck in both drifting and grip
racing.
You have OK taste in anime.
And I wish you the best of luck in everything else
that you do.
Thank you for having me, though, guys.
Those were fun.
Thank you for coming on.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Great personalities.
Love it.
All right.
And then before we finish up, if you guys
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Martini Works podcast.
I got to go watch, like, 1,000 animes now.
I got to catch up, I guess.
Bye.
Last season.
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