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Hello, welcome to Car Gas.

I'm Matt, the moderator, D'Andre here with Bill Goldberg.

How are you?

How's the ranch?

Tired, man.

I'm trying to protect all of our livestock.

It's tough, man.

It's tough.

It means that at this old age,

I don't get a lot of sleep anymore.

I'm up trying to hunt things at night.

So, you know.

Yeah, listen, that's nature, man.

You got animals and like that's a circle of life

right there, right on the property.

It is nature, but when you start naming things

and they get taken by nature,

it changes the landscape kind of, is what it is.

But you try to control it as much as humanly possible

to protect the ones that mean more to you

than just throwing feet out to them, you know?

Yeah.

So, Skittles got taken the other night.

Skittles is a sheep?

Okay.

There's a very long story there,

which I'm not gonna bore you and or everyone else with,

but let's just say he came from like a petting zoo

and he hadn't been here for months.

He got back, he got reunited with his buddy Toby

and then something ate him the other night.

And so, you know, it is the circle of life

and it is nature, but you know,

we have altered the course of nature here a little bit

and we're trying to do our due diligence

and protecting, you know, it sucks.

So, I had a vengeance death

and let's just say that I did.

Yeah.

And along with a good friend of mine,

we stayed up till two o'clock in the morning hunting fox.

So, yes, anyway.

Who knew when you guys moved out there,

that was gonna be the agenda.

That was gonna be a big part of the agenda.

Like you kind of hear the stories and talk to neighbors,

but you know, it's happening.

It's weird how these predators are able to enter

different fence lines, though they are built to keep them out.

But man, these things, whether they're digging through it

or whether they're breaking through it,

whether they're coyotes or fox,

fox probably can go right through them,

but yeah, it's a constant pain in my ass.

But it is, you know, no complaints.

I'm not complaining.

It's a lot of fun.

We got to see the Northern Lights last night,

which is pretty weird to see here in Texas,

but that was cool as hell.

We were out hunting right at sunset.

And man, it was gorgeous.

It was beautiful.

Yeah, I saw the pictures.

It looks amazing.

That was cool.

Yeah, we don't get that here.

Too much smog, I would have made.

We had smog and who knows what.

It was weird how it turned into like a crimson.

Like, it was really weird, man.

Like, it's hard to see here,

but I mean, it was really strange.

Yeah.

That was about eight o'clock at night.

Well, that picture on your phone,

that just looks like a fire out here.

It does.

Exactly like a fire in the background.

Yeah.

For me, which brought back horrible memories.

Right.

Yeah, it was a cool deal.

I just need to be able to see it here.

Yeah.

Well, how was SEMA?

Yeah, listen, came back from SEMA.

We've got some more interviews that we're gonna roll out.

Today, we're gonna cover a few things first,

and then we're gonna throw to an interview

with the Ring Brothers.

But SEMA was fantastic.

It was great to catch up with everybody.

I'm sorry?

Didn't you get anybody more exciting for your first interview?

Well, you know, I mixed things up.

I talked to a few companies that I had.

Some are new, a company that owns Escort radar detectors

and Cobra radar detectors.

Interesting product that's going on there.

I spoke to a guy named Zach Luke.

Yes, we made fun, he had two first names.

And it's like a country singer or something.

And he is the president of Rockford Fosgate,

the audio company.

And I had just met this guy.

We were talking, we did a little tour of the booth,

and then we sat down for an interview.

And I love this dude.

He has so much passion.

He's tattooed up.

He rides his Harley with the big speakers on it.

And he's been at Rockford Fosgate forever.

I guess he started as like an installer someplace

and got hired on board.

And he was just like, he was just like, yeah,

he was just like, he was just so into like his,

like so much love and passion for his industry

and his business.

He was so much fun to talk to.

Circle of life.

Yeah, he's got a bug.

So, yeah, listen, I'd never spoken to him before,

but yeah, sat down with Mike and Jim Ring,

Steve Strope as well.

Several others, we talked to the guys.

Jason Angle, he used to have classic recreations,

and now he has a company called Trick Rides,

and he did an all carbon fiber, wide body 69 Mustang

with a, you know, John Case, you know, big block, you know.

And it was like the cool stuff, very, very cool stuff.

Got to, you know, connect with a bunch of our partners

here on the show that helped us out with the builds.

Overall, I'd say SEMA felt like, interesting,

it felt a little lighter, like fewer people,

a little bit easier to get around.

And Vegas has been taking a hit,

like it just got so expensive,

and the hotels didn't use to charge for parking,

that now they do, you know, drinks are stupid, 25 bucks

or whatever if you're at a nice place, getting a cocktail.

And so it's been in the news for several months now

about how overall, like just the gambling, the attendance,

everything's been down.

Now, what that resulted in, in my opinion,

and talking to a few of the people that were there,

was a little bit easier to get around,

like if you grab an Uber or get on one of the shuttle buses

from the hotels to SEMA, you're there in 25 minutes,

it wasn't a ton of traffic.

Some people were leaving SEMA and driving down the strip,

and they're like, I still got to my hotel in, you know,

13 minutes, you know, a little less so on Friday,

that's the public day and all the cars parade out,

stuff that got more traffic then,

but easy to get around SEMA, easy to get to SEMA.

But also I spoke to, you know, guys at Magnaflow,

guys at David Borla and a bunch of other guys,

and they said, they still got their work done,

like all the meetings and stuff

that they were trying to get done at SEMA,

it is a trade show, all happened, so business happened.

So imagine what the traffic down,

business would be easier to make happen.

Yeah, I mean, they were kind of thinking like,

nothing else.

You know, are the right people not gonna show up,

or some people opting out?

It's tough to say if the air travel and like tariffs,

like did some just, you know, booths not show up,

which looked a little bit like that.

Maybe there's some international buyers and stuff

that just didn't wanna get on a plane

thinking they might get caught up in customs or something.

So I can't say for sure,

because I didn't go to the Apex show,

the Apex show, if you guys aren't familiar,

it happens at the same time that SEMA does,

it's in a slightly different location,

and it's more of not the performance aftermarket parts,

but like the replacement aftermarket parts,

like replacement catalytic converters and radiators

and starters and things like that.

That's still considered the aftermarket,

but not the performance stuff that has all the glam

and the car builds and stuff around it.

And the Apex often has a lot of international exhibitors

and like buyers all showing up, because let's face it,

there's a bunch of these replacement parts

that get shipped from overseas, you know?

I wouldn't see the domestic foot traffic

being nearly as much as this.

Yeah, and it just seemed like it was good,

it was a good event.

We ran into all friends of ours for sure.

I saw Christy Lee for a moment, Chris Jacobs,

Courtney Hansen, Rutledge Wood,

all fun people that they just light up and glow

when you see them because they're also amazing

and so much fun.

Just swatting bugs over there.

What happens?

Thursday night was the Roadster Shop party

and they always do their big event

and they do, around the show,

they do these awards called Best on RS.

So it's the best builds on a Roadster Shop chassis.

And they do such a, you know, Dave Kindig

and all these Bobby Allaway,

like all these guys were at the event,

they're all up for potential awards

and they do a really great thing.

It's like a big, you know, gold sign.

And then the winner of the whole thing gets like,

like literally like your WWE Championship belt.

Like I've been to a place, I put that belt on.

There was like a Roadster Shop belt

that all blinged out, it's a massive thing.

And I have all the great builds there.

You're not gonna be surprised to hear this

and it is well earned.

Ring Brothers won the overall award and had the belt.

And they were super happy about it as they should be.

So they brought out two cars,

which we'll get into in the interview that's coming up.

They brought out Octavia,

which is the Aston Martin that debuted

at the quail during Monterey Car Week.

Then they brought a 69 Mustang Mach 1

that they call Kingpin.

And that one's tough because it had some of the things

that they built into their cars.

But you know this too,

as much as you love black cars,

black is like a media person's nightmare

because it's so hard to photograph

everything's a mirror.

It's just, to keep it clean and no swirls and dust,

like it's just so much work to do a good black car.

And then with so many people like filming and photographing,

all you see is just reflections of photographers.

It's really tough.

But the owner of this car was just like,

I don't want any chrome on it.

I just want it all kind of murdered out.

And I want the interior to be sort of like a tuxedo.

So these guys,

I think they're originally gonna call it mob boss,

but they ended up on Kingpin.

And it came out amazing.

It's fantastic.

It's got a supercharged,

you whipple supercharged coyote engine in it.

And it's a cool piece.

So in the interview that's coming up,

I'll let the Ring Brothers get into all of the details

of that car.

But it was a good event.

I wanted to check in with you.

How's the Cobra build going?

What's going on over there?

And then we got a couple more things.

Just shaking it down, man.

The process of culmination of a bunch of new parts

and trying to figure out how they all blend together

harmoniously, right?

So I think the snake eater guys came out,

got the carburetor, I think completely dialed in, I believe.

Yeah.

Completely took it apart, which scares me always,

but the thing's almost brand new.

So we just want to make sure we go through

every single thing.

I've taken it out on the road a couple times.

The best news that I have is that I reached out to Nitto.

And as much as I love the look of the good years,

I've been with Nitto for God knows 20 years.

And I always feel guilty when I post a vehicle

that doesn't have Nitto's on it.

So I reached out and it turns out that there are twos

actually match up size-wise with what's existing

on the car.

So I'm going to do the painted white big letters

on the outside and kind of replicate

what the good years look like.

And it'll give it an updated look.

Yeah.

I mean, because quite obviously Nitto's

weren't available back then.

And it's kind of my update, but staying true to the original.

What tire sizes did you end up getting on that car?

Well, I think it's a 335, 50, 15 in the rear

and a 275, 50, 15 in the front.

Nice.

I ordered some 60s in the front

just to replicate what we have existing,

but I think it's going to look kind of off.

So I got the 50s.

And the only thing that doesn't translate

is the width of the rear tires.

These are like two and a half inches wider

than what's existing on the car.

So I don't know how that's going to work,

but like you said, it depends on the offset and everything.

So I think we're going to be good.

The best thing is that it's just a much better tire

for everyday use.

There's no question about that.

So like I say, just dialing everything in,

trying to get full throttle.

I guess the biggest piece of information that I can relay

is that in talking to Kent Waters,

the guy who actually built the car with Ernie,

to save my life, Ernie never gave me full throttle.

Where to God?

I've got 70% throttle, that's what Kent said.

And that's something that we didn't really discover

until we tore this thing down.

And it is built such that it's impossible for me

to get the final 30%.

Now we're altering that,

but big hats off to Ernie for saving my life.

That's pretty responsible.

I mean, only giving me 70% of the ability

to tap into that motor quite obviously

has been more than enough throughout the years,

but that's pretty cool, man.

That's the right shit right there.

You know, I was talking to a bunch of the guys

that we've been working with,

that you've been working with on this car,

talked to them at SEMA.

Everyone's excited about it.

Love that you got an opportunity to do so much

of this yourself, bringing some help when needed.

And it was just kind of the right car for that and for you.

But everybody's a little curious

about a dyno number at some point.

So maybe-

You mentioned that last time, right?

Curious about it too, no question.

Obviously that's probably the best place

to get it final tuned,

but that doesn't help us with tires and clearance

and stuff like that, which has to be done also.

But I'm gonna shake the thing down

and yeah, we'll get it on a dyno.

I just gotta figure out where and when, that's all.

I'm looking forward to that day too.

It'll be a lot of fun.

Did you finish the roll bar on it?

No.

No, yeah.

You haven't even started.

So maybe don't make that throttle 100% yet.

There's no question, I'm not.

I mean, the roll bar's gotta go on there before I do that.

Yeah.

Even before I, hey, I'm gonna be honest with you.

I've taken it out a couple of times

and even before I get kind of froggy with 70% throttle,

I want that roll bar on it.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, it's awesome, man.

I'm glad it's getting dialed in.

It's gonna be a little by little,

it'll get to exactly where it needs to be

and it'll be.

Yeah, it's always, you know, at the end,

you rush everything to try to get it out on the road

and then you gotta go backwards and deal with this.

No, I should have done that.

But it's the process.

You have to perfect the process, right?

And I'm learning and yeah, it's fun going back

and rectifying things that I screwed up.

Originally, so it is what it is.

It's a learning process.

Yeah.

So much fun, man.

I gotta be honest.

It's a lot of fun.

Yesterday, I had 20 wounded veterans,

wounded warriors came out to the garage.

It's just kind of a last minute thing that

on Veterans Day, the local wounded warrior society

reached out and it was a lot of fun.

But I got a request to crank the Cobra.

That was the only request I got.

I mean, they obviously loved the law man

and knew that I wasn't gonna start it yesterday.

I should have, but man, their eyes just lit up

when I fired that Cobra up.

So it's just cool, man.

It's just, it's cool to be able to work on it 24 seven

when I don't have to go to somebody's shop.

I don't have to, it's just really cool.

It was a great experience.

It's an ongoing experience and the candy matics next.

I mean, we're gonna dial the card on that damn thing.

That'll be a very simple fix.

And then we'll move on to, I gotta reach out to kid.

We'll probably put that four speed in the 2,500,

the 99 Dodge and go from there.

Yeah, I believe my interview with my kid

from Tremac is already up.

That was, that went up last week while we're at SEMA.

I thought it was super interesting

because they launched the Transaxle.

And the Transaxle initially is gonna be a manual.

And then eventually when they get the electronics figured out

they'll do a DCT version, right?

But a manual, like a manual Transaxle.

That's killer.

Speaking of manual Transaxles,

so my kid was working on this for a while.

The Ring Brothers Octavia Aston Martin has that setup in it.

That has a manual Transaxle in it already

with a Roadster Shop chassis.

Doesn't surprise me.

Yeah, so obviously they got it on the ground floor,

a little secret project working on there,

but yeah, that's cool.

So one of the things I wanted to mention as well is,

so I needed to get out to SEMA for Monday night.

I had an event there.

Tammy came out and just drove out like Thursday

and we stayed a couple of extra days,

met up with some friends.

But it was a great opportunity for both of us.

So Ford sent over a Bronco,

the Bill Strop Edition Bronco.

This is a throwback paying homage to Bill Strop

that worked on Bronco's Customizer Baja stuff.

It's a cool piece for sure.

Now, Gage has a Bronco

but he's got the four door Bronco, right?

Yeah, temporarily he was in Boulder

he was in Colorado Springs getting a recall done

and the salesman obviously grabbed a 19 year old kid

and tried to upfit him in Raptor.

So yeah, he's got a four door today.

I don't know what he's got tomorrow, so yeah.

Yeah, so this is the two door Bronco

and although it worked fine for us,

we did bring a bunch of gear.

I had, we both had luggage and I had audio gear

and tripods and all kinds of stuff.

And it all fit, but it was starting to get a little snug.

I can see how the four door would have been

a little bit more accommodating for this type of thing.

But this Bronco, by the way, looks great.

It's a throwback to it.

Now, I didn't really think about this,

but if you look at the pictures,

it's got kind of this orange,

looks kind of red orange stripe on it.

But it says Strop Edition, it's got the,

but I was down the strip

and somebody was rolling down their window,

a bunch of dudes like an Escalade

and they're like, dude, that's awesome.

Is that, are you a big Denver Broncos fan?

And I was like, and I was like, no, this is a,

I go, it's a Strop Edition for a guy

modified Broncos for Baja.

And their eyes kind of glazed over like.

I hate to break to you, but people,

there are gonna be many more people

that think it's a Denver Bronco Bronco.

Yeah, yeah, so for me, I was like,

oh, people are gonna just think I'm a goofy football fan.

I painted my truck like this.

I go, so.

Careful what you talk about, man.

Goopy football fans that are gonna be pissed off

about what you're doing right now.

It just, you just know me and you guys listen to me.

I'm not like a huge football fan.

Like I enjoy going to some of the, you know,

events, we'll go to the Super Bowl party

and stuff like that.

It's just, I didn't even put it like together in my head.

The guy's like Denver Bronco fan.

I'm like, I didn't get the car in Denver.

And I was like, oh, you made the football team.

So we took it out to Red Rock

and we got a couple of photos and stuff.

We were out there and listen, it was great.

I thought it was gonna be loud.

Like there's some road noise, you know, with the mirrors

and the, you know, the hard tops

got a little bit of a sound denner in it now

and the big tires, you know, that.

But honestly, it's like, it wasn't that bad.

It wasn't like we had to like crank up the stereo

super loud.

It's like, we could still have a conversation in it.

My fear was like, is it gonna be too loud

especially for a long trip?

But, you know, it did everything it was supposed to do.

It was more comfortable than I thought it was gonna be.

And, you know, this one has like the Fox shocks

and stuff on it.

It's got some good features.

It's cool.

It's a cool.

To upgrade that cheap interior, they had to.

You know, so there's Toby.

The interior has, it has a leather interior

with kind of a red stitch, like a matching

like orange stitch to it.

But, you know, because the Bronco is still like

the doors come off and things like that

and the roof can come off.

So the power window switches are in the center console,

not on the doors because when the doors come off

like you'd have to, there's different wiring harnesses

and stuff that plug, but, you know, it had,

I was trying to, I thought I had pictures of the dash

but maybe not, but the dash is like big and white.

It has like a white insert.

I'm not sure that I love that, but it was fine.

But yeah, you know what?

There's a lot of plastic.

It's made to just be wiped down easily.

There's definitely some interesting features

on the center console area.

There's like a clip and it had like a little clip

in like bucket, like for cell phones or whatever,

but you can unclip that bucket.

And I know that people are like 3D printing

and making their own things, different attachments for that.

Up on the dash as well, there's ways to create attachments

and there's like USB power ports on top of the dash

or if you were running like a different sort of

navigation system or radar detectors or cameras,

you can get power to it at the top of the dash

without stringing cables down, you know,

in front of the radio or whatever, like,

so some cool features for that.

I've driven a few of the Broncos,

but you just sort of forget some of the features

that are kind of built in.

The tailgate that opens kind of like a door

and then the glass flips up.

I like that the tailgate really kind of swings out.

It can go more than 90 degrees.

And so you can get access to it easily, you know,

like two people can kind of like swing that door open

and load in, if it's swung 90 degrees,

then one person's like in the way.

So you probably noticed that on gauges

when you guys were like outfitting the vehicle

and packing it up and stuff.

Yeah, the big Rockford Fosgate fricking box

with the bait, the subwoofer, yeah.

Yeah, right, so that.

So yeah, again, like if you wanted to upgrade

the audio system in this thing,

it would dig into the amount of storage in the back.

Now, one of the things I did notice was

there are a bunch of aftermarket companies

that the thing in audio is a lot like

so many other aspects of the automotive aftermarket.

They're trying to do like complete packages.

In the audio space,

you'll hear it with the Rockford Fosgate interview.

They have complete packages for Harley-Davidson,

complete packages for side-by-sides, the UTV,

some of the ones you guys got on the property there.

I think they were doing Polaris,

but some other companies are doing like Kawasaki and stuff,

but there still are good turnkey packages

for cars and trucks.

And one of the ones is several companies do this

and it's a subwoofer box that basically attaches

to the tailgate.

So when you swing that door open,

it's got the box on it, right?

So when you close the tailgate, yeah,

it's a few inches thick.

So it's not in your way when you open it.

It's not sitting in the back of the hatch of the truck, right?

It's attached to the tailgate.

So when you close the tailgate,

it would take up a little bit of room,

a couple of inches.

So if you packed bags in there,

you can't get it right up to the edge

and smash it with the tailgate because the,

but yes, it kind of, it takes it off the floor

and it attaches it to the tailgate

and it's a nice little system.

And I'm sure there's, yeah, it's a cool piece.

It's a cool piece.

And there's a few companies that are doing it.

I'll post the photo gallery up on Facebook

of all the new parts showcase.

And I think one or two of the companies, I forgot who,

they showed those pieces in the new product showcase.

So, super cool, it was a fun ride.

I dig it.

I mean, again, you've got to be able to live

with the two door version.

And for the most part, if we had it, it would be fine.

There's just the two of us and the dogs are small.

And they, even when we folded one seat down

to get luggage in and we left one seat up

and they just like one of them would sit in the back seat

on his towel.

So, yeah, it worked out great.

It was more interesting.

Kind of makes you want one.

Yeah, it kind of makes you want one.

I said, you mean a walk?

He didn't lay on a towel.

He'd laid on a washcloth.

Yeah, kind of, he's a little guy.

And, you know, when we drove out,

we drove out to the Red Rock area, like in Summerlin.

And we didn't have enough time to really kind of go off road

and enjoy it just a little bit in the dirt.

But, yeah, you start to think about like, oh, you know,

if you if you spent some time in Vegas or even out in the desert

and you really got to go off road,

how much fun that vehicle would be?

I know there's plenty of people out here just in LA

that just have these things and they just drive around.

They're just kind of and it's cool because, yes,

we have shitty roads and they're bumpy

and sometimes you hit a curb

and you don't have to worry about that stuff with,

you know, with with a vehicle like that.

As you know, it's just like, actually,

we even just pulled into the gas station when we got back

and somebody in front of us was just, I don't know,

just screwing around and wasting time,

not filling up their car, you know, vaping and doing whatever

LA thing you'd expect.

And there was a woman behind us in her car with her daughter.

And she was just like waiting and

and so I went over to her.

She's like, what's going on up there?

Why are they taking someone?

I was like, I don't know, but I'm done.

So just move your your car back like a foot and I'm going to leave.

And she's like, what?

And so, yeah, so she just moves back and I just turn,

go like through the bus stop over the down the curb onto the street

and just left and the little girl in the car was laughing.

She thought it was funny that you can just do that in a Bronco,

right? You could just kind of drive off the off the edge of the road.

It was supposed to be for.

Yeah, that's kind of like that's about as off roady as you get in LA

unless you're really driving out for the weekend.

But anyway, it was it was fun.

It was a good time.

I enjoyed the Bronco and thanks to Ford for lending us that thing.

I wish I had a little bit more time in the dirt, but yeah,

Seymour was hectic, as you can imagine, whatever it ended up being.

Twenty two thousand steps a day.

Just running back and forth.

But I made those steps up last night.

Believe me.

Yeah, man, just all night on the property hunting.

Walking, walking.

Oh, it was miserable.

But like I said, it's part of the process, right?

Also, the process this weekend, I'm going to be in New York.

I got a big autograph signing.

It's called The Big Show Saturday in like Brentwood, New York.

OK, 10 to three.

So then I then I go to Scottsdale and shoot with Chapman Dodds.

We do a little.

Yeah.

Do a little comedic series for Chapman Dodds, which should be fun.

And I'm going to be a correspondent salesman.

So I love that.

Do it and then for that one.

Do it. Yeah, that'll be awesome.

Yeah.

All right.

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I've got a couple of interviews from SEMA.

So I'm going to be posting those as well.

So next week you'll be gone.

But we we do have, I think, Steve Strope and some other interviews.

Yeah, so let's do this.

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All right, here we are with the Ring Brothers, Mike and Jim.

How are you guys?

Good, good, man.

Is he really a couple of days into it and it's ready for nap time?

It seems like it's nap time.

Well, it's funny because we show up now and it's like ready for day one of Seema.

But day one is like your day four or five.

Yeah, especially this year, because we started out at the racetrack with.

The Stig, you know.

Oh, yeah, Ben Collins.

Yeah, thank you.

That's right.

Now, he was he's been in the studio.

He's been on the podcast before.

Yeah, he's a great guy.

Yeah, so you guys went out and drove the drove the car.

So let's back up a little bit.

So at the coil, you guys unveiled the Aston Martin, which has been if nobody's

heard of it by now, they're I don't know where they've been.

They're not listening to automotive podcasts.

Yeah, but then you guys brought that car out here, did another unveiling for it.

But before you did, took it out, drove it, filmed some stuff with it, had some

fun with it.

Yeah, it was really fun.

Ben just happened to say, I've got, you know, I've got friends or they want me

to come out the is it Spring Mountain at Perum or Spring Hill or whatever.

I don't know what the name of the track is, but we went out there and Ben had us

with a group in the in 10, I don't know.

And it was all hypercars.

So and they were doing filming with the hypercars.

And that thing kind of sticks out in the middle.

Yeah, when they see the video of that going around the track amongst

like the 20 hypercars, the Kona Segs and the Pagani's.

And it's it kind of sticks out like a sort of yeah.

But then we did that.

And then mostly it was just Ben driving it.

And I bet he put we probably put more laps on than any of the

hypercars that were there.

What was the track six miles long?

No, well, total.

But the track we were on is like two and a half.

OK, no, he he pounded on it.

It needs tires now.

So I saw that when I walked over.

You guys were you guys were talking to the F one guy, the FIA chairman or whatever.

Mohammed. Yeah. Yeah.

And so I saw that I was like, oh, that's a good conversation.

I think I got like 300 cars.

And it's funny because when I was standing there thinking I'm going,

you know, the Aston Martin's a good jumping off point.

We always talk about like a good jumping off point to start a project.

But like I like that.

Can sit there and go, I've got five sixty seven Ferrari three thirty GTC's.

They're six hundred thousand a piece, but I'm bored.

You know, now you could now you can take one that's six hundred thousand

and use it as a jumping off point and make something kind of special.

I don't know if I would allow that to happen.

But yeah, right.

I don't know if that's the murder.

No, I guess we'll wait and see.

I guess we'll wait and see.

But so different for you guys.

This has been a big year.

Take. Build the Aston Martin.

Well, not just this year, but building the Aston Martin.

Launching it at the quail.

Have a booth at the quail.

You guys have never even been to Monterey car week prior.

Tell me about that. How was that experience?

We must have been a little nervous going into the lifetime.

I'm, you know, obviously you hear a lot about that show.

It's the people out there is so far beyond, you know,

where we come from or who we are, you know, there's a lot of money out there.

And and but it was fun.

We had it was a good hard to believe all of that prep, all of that work

for one eight hour show, you know, it's a one day get in, get out.

Right. Even eight hours.

Well, because you guys had a booth at the quail for the first time

and debuted the the Aston Martin there.

But the whole Monterey car week.

Now, for us, it's like a like a Wednesday through Sunday.

Right. You start with like the Jet Center Party.

You hit the track.

There's a few events going on.

The auctions all kind of happened that big weekend.

And Pebble Beach, you know.

But talk about a gathering of like minded people.

And I don't mean just in the automotive space.

If you I'm sure you talked to a bunch of people came up.

Once you start asking them and it's like, and what it is, what do you do?

And how do you do? It's like so many of them are business owners.

They own businesses, granted very successful.

It could be a commercial like a like an airline of some point

or a trucking company or a massive insurance company.

Adam Races with a guy who's so sweet.

He's such a nice guy and I'm like, what business are you in?

He's like, I'm in grapes. Right.

I go grapes. He's like, yes, there's wineries that own their vineyard.

But when their volume is so high, they don't have enough grapes.

He's the grapes wholesaler.

All he does is sell them grapes for everybody else's wines.

And he's like, I have more vineyard land than anybody,

but I don't make any wine.

I just sell grapes of vineyards.

I was like, that's fucking genius.

I was like, you know, like that that guy is and he's out there.

He's buying cars and he's racing cars.

He's having a great time.

So you definitely meet a lot of people in this industry.

A lot of good people. Yeah, but you're right.

It's fun to see where they come from like minded people

that made their money in so many different ways.

Yeah, I've always said the story where Mike and I grew up in a town

of 600 people, you know, in the middle of Wisconsin.

Yeah, the people that we've had the opportunity to meet,

you know, in our lifetime over these cars is pretty incredible.

Yeah, did you guys get to experience some of Monterey Car Week

other than just yeah, we went up to I don't what's the name of the street

where it looks like Ferrari's on.

Well, it was it was Canary Road, but now it's it's like Main Street or something.

Yeah, that event. Yeah, we went there one day.

It was really cool and we hung out.

But honestly, we got there.

We look like the Beverly Hillbillies, I mean, because we took our whole structure.

We carried it all in the duly in the trailer and all that's got to be engineered.

So we had to pour his son in law poured us four four hundred pound blocks

of concrete that had anchor bolts in it that we had to have.

So we drug that along with this massive pergola, all the signage,

all that you saw every two by four, the flooring, all that.

Yeah, we drug we look like if their granny was on the roof,

that's what we look like.

Right. OK.

And literally, you know, you get out there and they say,

this is where you're setting up.

It's not like you can pull your truck up there.

You have to find a way to get that stuff from. Yeah, you have to carry it.

Walk it over the golf course.

We carried a little bit until I went and.

Stole the bar or I borrowed a golf cart from one of them flatbed ones.

Yeah. And then we got busted for that.

So they're probably not too happy with the rainboys out there.

You guys will be back.

I think you can I think you can be back.

So let's let's talk a little podcast or we could just start

with the the the the golf cart company that the flatbed golf cart company.

I think that might be.

I think that's more than what all of us can do.

Another car debuted here.

We'll get into that in a minute.

But because we haven't really had a chance to talk about the Aston Martin,

let's let's talk about the Aston Martin, an amazing project.

I don't know how much is left, but.

I'm curious through the process like, for example, this carbon fiber body.

You've got to make everything in steel first so you can make the molds

for a carbon fiber body.

Like how what what is the process of doing something like that?

And then we'll get into that car a bit more.

Yeah, no, this our process has really been through with Gary

is change so much from where we used to do it.

Now it's scan the original car, scan the complete car,

doing renderings off of that, our input, whether we rather pull

their tight move, you know, so we go through that so we get

a rendering that we really like.

Yeah, and then that car is all machined once we say go,

start machining molds and parts.

But what's so difficult about that is you're building a car

like Johnny Cash, one piece at a time.

Yeah. And if this isn't perfect here, you get to that clamshell

hood and where it's got a seal amongst the wheel.

You could have a big mess.

Well, then when it's done, it's like all the gaps got to be perfect.

And, you know, it like there's not a lot of room for for mistake there.

When it's carbon, you can't grind it.

Right. It's not like, oh, we need to fill a little here.

We can add some weld and we can fill that because the gaps a little wider.

This one, we can grind it down.

It's like there's there's there's none of that.

None of that.

So so what do you what do you make the tooling out of it?

You're scanning it and then you're machining it.

Is this like they're machining basically foam blocks?

OK, but it's really dense.

Think of like Bondo. Yeah.

You had a gallon of Bondo.

It's super expensive.

And you got to remember those molds and are based off.

So we're building molds.

Yeah, a lot of it, not always.

Typically, you'll build for like if you were going to do high volume,

you would machine a plug, meaning the part.

Yeah, then make your mold off of that.

Now we're doing the opposite.

We're skipping that step.

But when you do it out of this 40 pound density foam,

you have a mold that's only going to get maybe two pulls out of it.

Right. OK.

But it's still really expensive.

Yeah, really, really expensive.

So tell us tell us about that car.

How does that process start?

Does, you know, I know this comes up all the time.

It's like, does it start with you guys?

Or do you get lucky enough to have a client come in and go?

Well, in this particular, how about an Austin Martin?

Yeah, we had a client come in and he actually asked us what we wanted to build.

He just wanted to build a car, right? Yeah.

And which is nice, which was the nice part about it was he asked us what we wanted to do.

And obviously, we've been talking over the years.

It'd be nice to do something different besides the Camaro, the Mustang,

right, and something European, some European.

And that's kind of how it come up.

And he said, how about a 71 Aston Martin?

And so he went out and bought one hundred and thirty thousand

dollar or twenty thousand dollar Aston Martin.

And yeah, cut it all apart and made this car out of it.

Actually, you're probably one of the influencers

that you probably don't even remember when we did our first podcast.

You actually asked us about doing something

non-American, European, even way back then.

That's got to be 15 years ago.

Maybe you and Adam, when we were at that.

Yeah, we're here.

See, honestly, and I don't think I've seen another European hot rod.

Right. I mean, is there any other ones here?

Do you ever see him?

You mean more Japanese?

Yeah, Japanese, you're saying there's some German things,

because like people are doing like L.S.

swaps on E 30 BMWs and some kind of fun stuff like that.

And Liberty Walk, the crazy stuff out of Japan,

I think did a Ferrari F 40.

Not sure if they got in trouble for that, you know?

And then I don't know what else.

I think now they did, you know, a dot center or something.

This typically is a GM Ford and Chrysler and Honda.

Yeah, it is. Yeah.

So that car there, when you guys started with this Aston Martin,

to me, looking at it, it's like what it's got

a much more sort of modern feel to it.

Obviously, not just with the carbon fiber elements to it,

but just the line, the aggressiveness to it.

But it still has those elements of beauty.

Like when you look at it and when you guys go,

oh, you know, it's it's gray and it's black and it's raw carbon.

But there's there's some chrome trim.

There's some polished, you know, chrome trim involved in the interior.

It's like you can't not be an Aston Martin, right?

Yeah, I think I think Gary actually said it the best.

Like 50s, 50s, 60s Aston's were super sexy.

Yeah, then they got kind of flat sided boring.

They did. They got a slabby side.

Yeah, they got slab side.

Now today they're sexy again.

So it was like kind of modernized that flat slab side.

Yeah. I mean, if you put the original car,

which we did at at the quail,

well, half of it, there's a lot of resemblance to what that car was.

Yeah. I mean, the glass is the same minus a few notches and trims.

But yeah, you know, the whole side side profile

and it's just fatter and wider and wheels push forward.

And yeah, you know, but when you look at it,

you can see when you guys are looking at the original car and going,

these are some of the elements that could change.

This could be smoother.

This could be tighter.

And then what would that look like

if they had those resources back in the day?

There are body pieces from the 60s and 70s that

you couldn't even bend the metal like you can now, you know,

like a modern day for GT.

They specifically made that car like the door comes down

and it's like 90 degrees and comes out 90 degrees and on the rocker.

And I was like, why did you make it so aggressive?

And they go, because you can't do it in metal.

And we wanted people to know it was carbon fiber.

And they said they said, if you did those bends,

it would get so thin on a stamping machine

that it would have to be really thick metal.

So those don't get to.

And he goes, so we just wanted to make it impossible to do in metal.

You couldn't stamp it.

So now you look at it and go, it has to be carbon fiber.

So looking at some of those things,

those elements end up in your car going,

this this is only a you can only really do some of this stuff in carbon.

Right. So it's stretched out.

It's widened. You fit more tire underneath it.

Got to ask why why not a

Aston Martin engine, a European engine, an Aston 12 cylinder or something like that?

Well, we reached out to them and I think this term was they didn't have the band with.

Exactly. The word is basically they haven't been doing

very profitable for the last few years as, you know, that's no secret.

You know, lost probably half a billion in two years or more.

A company that's always made gorgeous cars and has always struggled.

You know, there's a handful of companies, Lotus, Aston Martin,

there's a Maserati, like they just get traded around and it's like amazing.

They survive. And the owner of this car, the guy we built it for,

he owns several new Aston Martin.

Yeah, he's a he's a hardcore Aston Martin guy.

Yeah. So it's yeah.

I mean, that's he wanted a hot rod one, so he wanted a hot rod.

So tell me what engine is in it.

It's a coyote.

And we thought, you know, since we can't use an Aston, you know,

Ford owned Aston for about 10 years.

So we thought and honestly,

the if you saw the original five, three or five, four that were in those cars

or double overhead cam, it's very similar to a coyote.

Yeah, very similar.

So we thought, you know, we know how to make coyotes run with Wagner, you know,

and yeah, hair up on this, the supercharger,

switching it around to give us where we needed it and everything to be.

So I'd be great to bet.

If we put that old carburetor system on a coyote,

made the valve covers look a little more like that.

Yeah, your killer motor.

Nobody'd even known the difference.

You're probably right. Yeah.

Certainly, I mean, because they go, oh, they just cleaned up the motor.

They're like, they just took it apart and custom made some stuff

and new front end accessory drive and and you put that's the original motor.

But you're right.

Now, the hair up supercharger does make a difference.

That makes it look kind of modern.

But that looking at that supercharger, that's not factory that can't.

That's not quite what their their supercharger systems look like.

So they must have helped you all.

Yeah, they completely as we know, most coyotes are all coyotes.

I'm aware of the throttle bodies always off to the side.

Yeah, it is on our Mustang here.

And that's how there's our two.

But it wasn't going to fit like we in CAD knew that air box had to be here

so it could seal onto the hood.

So basically, we said to her, this is where this is.

Yeah, you need to get there.

And we don't want any crazy snorkel.

And then we don't like where your hoses are.

Like if you look at this supercharger on this Mustang,

they bring the water in in the goofiest places.

And it's just horrible.

Clutters every look good.

So here, remade the whole brick inside a new lid because we designed what we want.

And they did all that and moved all the brick so we could run the hoses in the back.

Yeah, make it more aesthetically pleasing.

And how many how many supercharger companies

did you have to call before a hair of someone who said, yeah, we were blessed

to meet him in Australia when we were down there.

Yeah, so if you met them and they offered like if you ever have a project,

let's talk and then you actually took them up on it, then it's good.

Yeah, I don't think they answered the phone or would answer again if you call them again.

Hey, I got another idea like that.

Sorry, sorry, we're not feeling good enough on that one.

All right, so let's talk about the car behind us now, the Mustang.

Sixty nine Mach 1. Correct.

All right. Yeah, it's amazing.

He's the car.

It was it was pretty rough when we got it.

I mean, it was it was a basket case.

Typical rusted out Mustang.

Clearly, we don't use a whole lot of it again.

Everything was remade, obviously, because the quarters are wider and fenders are wider.

And so wheels are pushed forward on the on the front end,

which obviously you had to move the wheel wells in the fender.

So, yeah.

But yeah, he wanted a car that was murdered out.

Because I don't like chrome and I kind of want my interior to look like a tuxedo.

OK, we were going to call it mob boss,

but I got overruled and it's called Kingpin now.

OK, that's kind of slow, right?

Godfather, if you look at the emerald, kind of as a Godfather flair.

And then it's got the chest piece on the valve cover.

And for the Kingpin, it's got a King

chest piece on the valve cover and in the name.

And now is this is this car steel or is this carbon steel?

It's steel and then the body that changes,

you said, changing the wheel base, moving the wheels forward.

Is it is it wider?

Yeah, I mean, lower. Is it chopped at all or no chop in the roof?

It's wider in the back by like an inch and three quarter per side

and the front of inch aside.

And then we did make a carbon hood for it.

Machined all the bumpers.

Yeah. Now, something that you guys walk me through

probably a few years ago is like when you're doing some widening of the vehicle,

instead of doing a big fender flare, which could look goofy, right?

Unless it fits the theme or racing theme or something.

But if you cut it down the middle, then everything is like the dash is wide

and everything. So you kind of do it in like the thickness of the door, right?

So you kind of take the two door skins.

If I'm trying to paint a visual picture for people listening on the podcast,

take the door skin and kind of widen it there.

So the exterior is getting a little wider, all of it down the whole side of the car

with while keeping the interior pretty much the same.

So the dash fits, it doesn't look out of proportion, right?

And you're right. When you widen the car from the middle, the greenhouse,

I don't think they're meant to be big.

Yeah, I mean, they're kind of a set size and you kind of want to retain that.

So you're absolutely right.

And we're not, you know, not to just use as a we're not putting

bushwhacker flares to create the width.

So you're right.

When you go widening through the door, though, you got to remember,

you got to change hinges and all that.

You got to move the hinge because as they rotate, if you add your hinge

at the original position and you widen that door, it's going to need a bigger sweep.

Right. OK.

Whatever you widen the door at, you got to widen that hinge.

You got to change that hinge position, which we learned that.

But this car, what's different about it than other cars is

we when we widened the fenders, we actually came back to the existing spot.

So it gave it more of a coke bottle and a lot of our other cars, we did what you said,

where you widen the whole thing.

But this we widened just the middle of the fenders.

OK, right back to the original positions, front and rear.

So the doors are really untouched, basically.

And this car, the doors are untouched, right?

Because you wanted a more aggressive look, just more.

Yeah, little hips, you know, in the back.

The engine, Coyote engine, supercharged.

Is it? It's a Wagner.

It's a magnificent supercharger. Whipple. Whipple.

All, you know, through Wagner, our buddies in Wisconsin.

I know they're building great stuff.

They're building great engines for you guys.

And listen, if you get an engine that works and fires up and runs well,

one last thing to take off your plate, right?

That's the truth. Jim and I started.

We did one of our first cars was Black 69

and put the motor in.

The guy was like, actually, when we met us in Columbus, he was white.

And he said, if I don't know, and that was going in the car like that,

I'd have built a better motor.

Should he use swing set bolts?

Oh, it was a pile of and it was a big name builder at the time.

He's no longer in business.

But and then the guy, oh, I'll give you this free eight stack.

And oh, my God, we just couldn't get it to run.

Yeah, it was horrible.

Like you said, we're done with that.

We want proven stuff.

I mean, I would I would imagine it.

Motors are great.

Definitely just like, get a motor that you know works and then just sit there

and go, how do we just make it look better?

Like, cosmetically, how do we make it fit the car, fit the theme of the car?

Like, smooth it out.

Like, just whatever needs to happen to it,

aesthetically, because now we don't want to fuss with just.

Is it going to idol right?

Like, there's coyote engines like if you don't get this stuff,

you get from GM for these connecting crews and, you know,

they come as a package with the transmission and yeah, plugs in.

It all works at all.

It's just how do you beat it?

Well, yeah, problem now is like you try to find an L T for you.

Try to find, you know, the automakers, they put way too much into electric

that they kind of abandoned the crate industry and all this hot rod

industry is hard to get like a crate motor right now.

Yeah, interesting.

So yeah, I think, well, and plus they got to keep so many for warranty.

You know, they're thinking like we have a disaster with warranty.

We need these motors so they can't sell them to you.

Yeah, I think the OE's got a little over their skis on moving away

from gas engines, but a lot of outside pressure on them for that.

Exactly.

You know, there's a few companies that kind of want to stay in their lane.

You know, Toyota honestly never really changed their tune.

They're like, we like hybrids better than EV.

So we're going to stick with hybrids.

And now the dust settled.

They're like, half we were right.

You know, so that I think Bill Gohberg, Jim and I are right about the electric thing.

Bill, if you ever hear this, you are absolutely right.

We've talked about it 10, 15 years ago.

We are never going to jump on the bandwagon of electric.

I did I did an interview at a like a big museum in, I don't know,

it's like Portland or something.

Adam and I did a launch of museum and.

Mario Andretti was our guest and I had already done like this history

channel TV show with Mario Andretti.

So I knew EV was like a hot button for him.

So you better believe I went up on stage was like Mario Andretti.

Let's talk about EV.

He was like, ah, he was just like visibly sick.

And it was fun.

He had a great time.

He's just like, talk about shitting on that technology.

He's out.

It puts race fuel on for a clone.

He really just saw him over in the other booth.

And so the and then the interior on this car, you know, looks amazing.

But you like when you get the directive, you're like, we got to do it black.

It's got to be all black.

It's like, I know, but you got to you got to like break it up with a little bit of

something like we need to do like something kind of sat and black and

something kind of a gloss black, like it just can't be all the same.

Oh, absolutely.

And because you lose it all.

You do.

Yeah.

And it's tough to kind of see the lines and everything.

So you, you know, not to mention, I don't know, now that it's there and it's done.

If you're if your customer hopes to drive that car, I don't know what you do.

You just fold PPF the whole thing.

What's that?

You just PPF the whole thing.

Like you just got to like that.

Aston is all PPF.

It is.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's the way to go today.

OK, absolutely.

All right, I mean, I'm going to I'm going to grab some I'm going to grab some

some footage, some B roll for this check out the cars.

And well, I know you guys are off to the to the next thing.

And it's good to be on this.

I love chat with you guys.

It's what, 20 years of SEMA now, 20 years, 20th year and you were here

and you unveiled one of our first.

Yeah, Adam and I were out for the fair lane.

What was that, like 17 or 18?

Yeah, like, oh, nine.

Maybe that was a long time ago.

It was a long time ago.

You had just gotten your driver's license.

Yeah, I look like he still looks like it.

But back then, he really looked like I did be 16 to get in.

I'm sure they checked.

So like I looked at the video from back in the day.

I was like, oh, we were younger.

Yeah, we were younger.

You know, but it was so much fun.

And I know it was it was like us and and maybe Leno at the time.

Certainly Leno, he was already doing.

He's amazing.

But we were wanting to bring cars into the studio and stuff.

And I know that was just like unheard of as like a pain in the ass.

You're like, you have a sponsor, like an overriding sponsor,

maybe like Royal Purple at the time.

You're like, we're going to the SEMA show, but then we should stop in

California and do this podcast and a video.

And they're like, the fuck we are.

We're like, I don't want to do that.

And I'm like, no, maybe it's maybe it's worth a shot.

I appreciate you guys always going to bat for us and making the effort to to,

you know, whoever you got to fight to bring the cars out and do that.

So it was so much fun doing that.

And I just hearing those cars, seeing them in person in the sunlight, firing them up.

Doing the burnout, making I think it was the Chevelle, wasn't it?

I don't remember which car it was.

Maybe it was the Chevelle.

Yeah.

Adam was probably like, oh, that's enough of that.

Yep, he's over it.

Yeah, he's over it now.

Funny of that.

But all right, guys, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

I'm going to let you guys run.

All right.

That wraps it up with the Ring Brothers and our SEMA coverage for today.

More to come next week.

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