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About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds around the latest in automotive technology, including the much-debated Tesla Cybertruck and its performance failures. The hosts share humorous anecdotes about outdated car safety features and the absurdity of a recent ticket issued to a driver using a mobile app in a fast-food drive-thru. They also explore the future of electric vehicles, the potential for flying cars, and the evolving standards of what constitutes a 'nice' car. The episode wraps up with upcoming local car events and a reminder of the changing landscape of automotive culture.
Topics:
tesla cybertruck
electric vehicles
self-driving cars
fast food drive-thru
car safety features
flying cars
automotive technology
local car events
Join us on "Sky High & Ticket Troubles" as we delve into the world of flying robotaxis, discuss Tesla pulling the plug on their affordable car, and share a story about a kid getting a $500 ticket for using his phone in a drive-thru for a mobile order. Don't miss out on these hot topics on Let's Talk Cars Radio!
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and AVB. Hey, it is a great day to kind of hang out
and uh listen to radio show because if you're in our area, it's been raining and raining and more raining, so it gives you an opportunity to sit down and relax listen to us talk. Enjoy the wash the rain, watch
wash the rain, and somewhere rain. We had car shows planned for us
in this area to attend and everything's been washed out, so that kind of sucks, but you know, hey, it is what it is. I
mean, there's not a whole lot you can do about it. Mother nature.
We really need the rain around here because it has been so dry.
I didn't even want to I think I talked about it last week. I
didn't want to even on the tractor. I was too afraid to burn it
up the grass because it's been just absolutely so blistering hot. I think we
were like one hundred and fifteen was the heat index a couple of days.
There's definitely humid. Yeah, it's in. The humidity's crazy out here.
So yeah, Anyway, hopefully you guys are staying cool. You guys are
at Hey, I'm gonna jump into some stuff really really quick. So I
love you guys. I appreciate you guys sending me a bunch of stuff.
But I think because I always talk so good about Tesla, and there's some times where I've said negative things about Tesla, and I mean not maybe not negative, but I've seen the other side of the coin for Tesla, right, uh, but I got blasted with all the Tesla truck things. I've
seen more Tesla truck failure failure videos than I probably care to see ever again, because everybody just decided to send me every single one that they see because they know they're like, oh, youea, we talk about Tesla. Here's
Tesla truck. It failed again. It failed again. Here's another fail.
Like, can we just talk about the fact that it's a new concept.
It is a new concept. I don't I never took Tesla truck as being
never day driver a truck. It's first of all, the word cyber truck
in it, I mean, to me says everything. It's a promotional thing,
right, like it's for looks, But all the ones that people are sending me like it's out on the beach and it's stuck or you know, if somebody took it four wheel driving and it's stuck somewhere and stuff. I'm
like, I like, because did you really? I would have never expected
that to be I wouldn't take I wouldn't take a Tesla truck got four wheel driving out in the mud and the four I guess they do put tractors on the beach, so, I mean, I guess my mind would probably be like, let's try it now. No, I mean you want to you
want to take a Tesla truck on the beach. You can try it right,
but it's probably not gonna work this as well. I mean, the
motors probably handled pretty well, but I don't think I think that's probably married.
Probably the U I saw one somebody sent me one from. I think
it's like I want to say, it's got to be like an India or something like that, on sand dunes somewhere or in Saudi Arabia or something like that. They're jumping the sand. Dude, they're jumping it, and then
the next picture of it it's rolled like and it's all destroyed. But I
saw it. I can see it had some type of like graphic down the
side of it, So obviously that was somebody's promotional vehicle as a cyber truck and then it got destroyed. But I think our listeners that they make me
laugh because but you all controlling me, like for like a week now with cyber truck videos of just NonStop like failures. Nothing's been positive. It's all
been failures, which is kind of funny because you know, Tesla's in the news this week a bunch of different things out about him. So you know,
I have been patiently waiting since we first even start driving in the first uber and all that for the whole robo taxi to hit right, Like, I just I think when I think it's gonna be huge, I think it's gonna be a really big platform. A lot of people are like, oh
no, it's not gonna be what you think it's gonna be. I really
do think it's gonna be what I I think. I think it's gonna be.
They're gonna be everywhere futuristic movie. We're all like, and it had
Johnny the taxi guy that could turn around all the way around and talk to backwards in the seat. Was that it wasn't a racer. I think that
had Orange Schwarzenegger in the movie, but but it was a robo kit taxi.
But he had no it had a They had like this taxi cat.
You remember he's catch phrase to Johnny Johnny on the spoty, Yeah, like that, Like he turned around, he talked to you. So I just
to kind of envision that. I know that's not what's gonna be like,
but for some reason that's what. But they if you remember, their taxis
were like everywhere in that movie, running everybody around their automated stuff. And
so I really think that that would be, Uh, it's I swear it to Yep, that's what it is. Yeah, Johnny Cab, Yeah,
Johnny Cab. So I knew he had on sword. Yeah, new it
had an n scort nigger in it. But kind of remind me of the
guy from It reminds me of Wallwell there, it's it's like I said, it's I think it's gonna be that set up. So, you know the
Danna and I got kind of talking about. So if you remember, Tesla
had the whole platform where I think it was this year, right, they're supposed to come out with the cheaper car this year. Yeah, it's called
the Model two like and stuff and I And then now that's been supposedly put on pause for a second or maybe not. There's official and unofficial courses.
It's probably more pushed back than anything else. Some are stating that it's been
canceled, but it's probably just been pushed back. So the robotaxi has more
of a front line, which I think they're using that platform as well as well, as we were talking about earlier. I think they're using the platform
that was probably for the Model too for the robo taxi, so they can push them along and then use in probably an old generation in like little three the platform wise, just to build a newer body, because well, you know, good thing with electric cars and stuff is just the platform, you know, the body, wheels, frame, and then they just thought, you know, chassis on it. Okay, so if you a century century,
it's just a power wheels, I mean a big, big power wheel.
I mean, think about it. What do we do with our power
wheels? We just take the battery out that you guys give us and we
put a very bigger battery in it. You know, believe that just more
charge battery and then people are swapping the motors out. But so if you
guys we can go back, like way back in some of the episodes of the show, and we had talked about that it would be smart because okay, you heard me, I say it all the time. It comes up
in a lot of episodes, just as recently. I believe that almost everybody's
that's bought electric cars owns electric car, right or and then so then you got to go from electric to self driving, right So then, because there're two different things automated cars, but they all come together because I don't think there's an automated car out there that's gasoline. Everything's electric, right, So
those there's two worlds combined. But the problem with it is is I think
everybody who wanted one kind of has one other than just kind of maybe updating some models every once in a while. But there's not that big rush out
there. So how do you make that happen? And one of the things
we had in one of the episodes we talked about was you need to make one that's maybe a little bit more utilitarian, that's cheaper, that people are going to afford, that's every every day may well as well it was well as like you know, early on, they weren't pulling all those you know stops out per se Brot the electric car, and so they kind of were on the cheap side. You know, the up sale was it was electric,
not that you know the features that came with back right, So that was like twenty fifteen even now, right, and so we're kind of pushing towards the features. But I mean even then, right, No, I
I got it, Like, so what the insight and all those if you kind of get in those they're just kind of cheaply made their electric car, but they're just cheaply kind of And I'm not trying to down anybody, but they didn't go like they're not super luxurious in the inside. And so I
was like, if you really wanted to get people excited, especially I would say your guys, I've always said your guys generation. If you want to
get him excited about owning buy an electric car. It needs to be in
a price platform that they, as growing young adults, can afford to be in that price point. And I think we you and I would talk about
I asked you, what would you be willing to pay for I think you told me like, twenty five thousand, twenty five grant's pretty cheap. Thirty
grand, I mean because at twenty because at twenty five thousand you can afford to throw the car away for five years. I think it needs that fire
though, right, So like it needs a little like you know, the Civics back then, or you know, like integral to look good. Yeah,
a decent priced car that looks really good for you know the price.
Right, So if you did it, like let's say here, you know what would work for me? Honest, we don't need no more minivans,
no, no, you know what would work is the old CRX kind of fantasy X. But but you understand, I'm going I'll just take the Hones
City again or Hones Civic right, like to okay, so something something like a hatchback new new we're looking but something in that kind of pan that's like you feel still has a cool you feel, still feel kind of hip driving it, right, it still has like a cutting kind of entry to it.
Right, No, no, no, no, that makes sense I and at a price point that people can affect. I will say, the
newer Hondas, right, do play really well to their old heritage. I'm
like, so, I mean it looks very similar to what's you know, what the civic was looking like. And so even in today's standards. I
saw I saw a little blog this week, and it's funny you say that, because it was talking about the Honda and it was like it was based on V six. They were talking about V six model cars, right,
and they're like, oh, six model cars are stupid. I don't know
why anybody ever puts any money to it. And then you know, people
are like, well, because people like what they like. And then somebody
chimed in and made a very good they're like I think how many times people joke people who own Hondas, right, like people, oh you got a Honda. Everybody's got a Honda. But then there's those die hard I love
by Honda Civic type cards. You know, I'm standing right saying that it
doesn't than a car to them. Right, It doesn't matter what you say,
how much you hate my car, whatever it may be. When you're
in love with something, you're in love with something, like you don't care what other people think. You're not driving it because a lot of people just
think, well you are to a certain degree of that crowd, but you drive because you like that model car. Like you know, there's some there's
some AMC's that I don't get that people drive, but they're die hard AMC guys. Right, I love E forty six. You don't really like being
used and stuff, but I just love the profile of the car, right, No, No, I mean I understand, but and you and I have to go back and forth on it. My problem. I think what
it was was the was a lot of people who had them, so it kind of so I kind of But then you could say there's tons of people used to have hot like everybody had a hont A Civic, the best ones.
I still think Hona Civic still it's still a good looking car for what it was during its time. I thought it was a really good car.
Well, they were all bill with different standards in mind. That's why I
think some people for you know, forget too right. So I you know,
you know Japan cars where you know, were made to be beat up.
You know, they weren't made to change to oil every you know couple.
You know, it's it's funny. So like in certain countries some of
the cars, like there's certain cars, Like first of all, I've learned in certain countries, people just don't care that cars just's for different standards, right, Like people just and you learn by garbage like well, right, I hate to say, but take a look here. Look at some of
the cars like they're like in Russia and stuff like that. They are like
just rolling hunks of junk. But people are still driving forever because it's just
a means of transportation. There's nothing else to that car. Like I just
bought this thing to take me from point A to point B. I really
don't care what it looks like. But that's considered like just normal like in
other countries. Like when I was in Spain, I saw a lot of
beat up cars in Spain and people are driving it. But I also told
you why I was in Spain that taxi cabs were Mercedes Vans, and I I was just floored by it. I was like, and we're like,
but I saw a lot of rolling pieces of junk out there too, that that's not piece of junk to them, that's just a car. Because they
don't look at it like we look at cars. Like it's just different,
you know, and people go, oh, wow, I was in Spain in this and everybody had nice cars. I'm like, look, I'm not
talking about little pockets areas. I'm talking like modern day, every day you
just there's just there was tons of junks parked on every single corner. When
I you know what, I'm like, you said, you know when you were oh, because I was just thinking, you know, Russia, send your hate mail, your hate mail, you know, send your hate mail only and nothing else. You know. I'm not Look, I'm not I'm
not downplaying Russia. I'm just saying like, there's they don't they don't look
at cars the same, right, They just don't look at the cars like we do. They do the point A, point B, point C,
point d O. The places, they're not enormal to them, right,
Like you were talking about, I forget what country you visited, but you said that you know many countries. Well I think it was Germany, yet
you were in there. You were talking about how you know, every had
really nice cars, but to them, they were throwaway cars, right because they were produced, you know, in their country. We were talking about
when I was there and I was in the military, and all the military guys were lower in the military at hour, were driving nicer things than I had back here in the States. I mean, they just had these outrageously
beautiful cars. I mean they had drive Mercedes and Porschas and all kinds of
stuff. I'm like, and I couldn't figure out how they were affording.
But how we maintained cars too, I mean, they were built to be intang got and in Germany during that time, and I don't think things have changed, but I'm sure it's still got a structure that way. Somehow they
get to a certain year and then they just get it's it's just there's no value to the car to them as far as they they go get there out there, really no. I would say probably at that point in time,
a lot of the cars that the guys were driving were a little bit older than five years but some of them, some of them are only five years old, but they now had say one hundred thousand miles on them, right, and one hundred thousand miles like in Germany was just like that car is junk as far as anybody else. You got to think about some most of
the military guys are just driving around on base with the car, and they you go off base here and there, they're not miles during each trip, right, And they're not on the autobne trying to go one hundred and fifty five miles an hour, you know, with the car, which in Germany a lot of people are now. Just so you understand how we've been through
five different military hands. Absolutely every time somebody leave, everybody leaves. Somebody
just transfers it. But one of the things that was was interesting to me
when I when I was there was the fact that the niceness of the cars and then the value of the cars was perceived differently. And like I said,
they're not going like they're not the everybody thinks the autuba Is has a speed just analyst speed lim It doesn't. If you've ever been to Germany,
you'll find out it's sectioned out right. Everybody's like, oh, you just
get to go as fast as you want. It doesn't. Really. That's
how you usually know when somebody's not been in Germany and they're like, I've been to Germany. I'm like in the autoban, I'm like, and I
listened to the talk and they start telling me about it. I'm like,
this person's never been to Germany. They tell them themselves. I'm because,
yes, there is speed limits in certain sections of Row have no speed limit.
So that's the way it works. I told you I was on a
bus going insane speeds on the Audubon and a bus that was just just super scary. Nobody should ever go those speeds. What is scariest some of those
foreign countries that drive the buses and they get close to the little barriers going around. Yeah. Not to try to take us off topic, but no,
I just watched when somebody just sent me one of those yeah, and they're like, no, I saw literally some me just send me send me one of those. Hey, guys, hold tight, I gotta take quick
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Talk Cars Radio, your automotive specialist. Now back to your host, Dave
Polach. Hey, guys, welcome back. So before we went to commercial
break, we were talking about cars another country, and we were talking about electric vehicles and how that all has kind of played out, right. I
it's funny how I say. You know, we talked about a lot of
different topics on the show and stuff, and we were talking about the fact that we needed a car for what I call your guys' generation that needed to be the right price right just real quick. The Mustane Club of Tidewater.
Their show that was scheduled for today was actually rescheduled to August. Tenths Mark
Canars August, so we're in the hat Rose area, you want to go to the Mustang Club of tie Waters show that was supposed to be We're supposed to be out there today, it'd been canceled and it's been rescheduled. So
hopefully we don't have any warning for the next rain out day, because I know there's a lot of stuff that's starting to pop up on the schedule as we come towards We're not to it yet, but as we work our way towards the end of the season. Is because I have a feel in October
and November is going to be here at no time. It just feels like
it's going to like go by very very quickly. So keep that in mind.
And I got some other stuff. I got to remind you guys as
well about this coming up week that we were going to be out at too, So I'll get into that, but back too. So if you got
a if they can find a way to package it twenty five thousand dollars and package something cool, a cool looking electric car, I think that it would sell and you guys would agree on it. I mean it would be for
you guys anyway. I mean, I mean yeah, probably because you know,
we already have talked about where a lot of all or financing has been spread out to what thirty years now or ten years? Ten ten years?
I think I'm thinking of mortgages too, but more ten years, I think it is. I think it's ten years for a Could you imagine paying thirty
years on a car? Just shoot me now, like just just thirty years
on a car. First of all, the car is going to die for
ever. You know, people would do it. You know, people would
do it. I mean, but I thought it was I don't think I
was crazy when it was seven years. I still think even if it was
five years. I mean, that's five grand a year. That's five grand
a year for your twenty five thousand buying car. So you're seventy years The
twenty five thousand dollars car you're talking right now in your time would be what two grand? Thirty grand? What are you talking about? Yeah? Nuts,
I'm not nuts back? How am You're not that old? Three D?
I mean it's more what you're talking for a brand new car it's more for a brand new car. No, it'd be what all right, maybe
I'm going low, but it'd be still underneath the double numbers, still probably caring grand Max okay, nine grand Max Okay. So when I was a
teenager, when I was a teenager, yes, when I was a teenager, early teenager, like thirteen fourteen, you could still buy a car on a clearance off the lot for two thoy nine hundred and some odd dollars for like, I think, like an Escort or something like that, for the base model like Escort. So in nineteen ninety base was about twenty grand for
a nice car, for a nice car, right for what a top of what did a Ford Escort go for in nineteen eighty eight. I'm just curious
what a nineteen eighty eight base model Escort was selling for what? Because I
remember seeing like I'm just saying, when we don't have anymore recently in the paper all the time, I think it was like twenty nine nine. You
just you got it, Yeah, twenty two you got at least understanding, and our viewers will probably understand. We have a lot of viewers. If
you guys didn't know, if you ever want to I'm going to plug this.
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Apple Music, you know. But I would believe that a lot of our
viewers would definitely agree that our prices on cars from the eighties the nineties have dramatically changed. I mean, also has Man and you know inflation. She
just said. He just said that we were able to get into a car,
for a nice car for what two grand thirty base on the level he was Oh, in the nineties nineties, a really nice car was about twenty grand, give it twenty five, and for a base car it was about twenty five hundred. Okay, so the base right now, what we would
agree the base right now is thirty five. You're about thirty eight thousand dollars
thirty eight forty right now. So that's another twenty grand that we went up.
Here's the thing we're saying, that's fair. We talked about this before.
It is like, if you want a car, what I mean, decent, a nice car nowadays. I was just having this conversation with somebody
today, you're at fifty eight thousand dollars roughly for something nice. It's not
the top of the nice. What's something nice? It's top equipped top of
nice? Question to y'all is no, it's not. It's not top of
the nice. How nice? Are you talking nice? Like nice? Like?
Because I think my Mustang is top of the nice and that's sixty grand, But it's not on top of nice. You're nice? But okay,
but it's like you're nice. That's fifty eight thousands, But we're not talking
like we're talking about like nice and like I'm not talking about like you know, you go crazy with one hundred thousand dollars car. I mean, that's
just not okay. So you have a family of five, family family vehicle
that takes speed to really nice minivan for sixty grand? Shuv? What do
you think you're paying? Instagram? You're you're forty nice? TV you're at
you're at forty two minimum? Forty two minimum? No, you're not.
You'd only get something nice for forty two? What do you consider nice?
Tell me what you consider nice? I'm just curious what do you consider nice?
I'm thinking like, like, no, like you in it? I
would yeah, no, because right this second for a not what I call nice Toyota land Cruiser, the New land Cruiser or whatever Roda name brand.
I mean nice. We didn't talk about junk. We said nice, that's
probably not over fifty. I mean, are you nuts? Are you nuts?
You have? The companies are nuts? The dealership you nice yaya saw?
A twenty twenty four Toyota land Cruiser costs anywhere from sixty to seventy one thousand. No, that's basically say, time you're at the door, by
time you're out the door with the land Cruise, you're about eighty nine thousand dollars. What you want, Yeah, depend what you're looking for. Me.
But if you're not going for say, off off roading, and you're just looking for you know, the just to carry people, you're like, comes away, it's gonna be offer. Well you have package. Again,
my question to y'all if we went from nineteen eighties to nineteen nineties playing twenty grand for a low mid vehicle, right, and now we're paying thirty two to forty or thirty forty day low time vehicle, what do you guys think we're going to be paying in twenty years for an electric that load time would be a problem with your guys, generation is I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm just saying that I agree cars have gone up just crazy in prices from when I was ten. It's also what you're looking for. But I remember
when I thought twenty five thousand dollars was crazy for a car. Now I
was in my teens, and when I saw twenty five thousand dollars on a car, now, money was different back then, right, I was making what two dollars and fifteen cents an hour, so we're making now what like So, like I said, it's just that's that was the reality. So
when I saw twenty five thousand dollars on a car, that was astronomical figure.
Now keep in mind that back then it was what hundreds and hundreds of thousand dollars for Lamborghini, which just was an even more unfathomable to you, which is still kind of the same thing today. Well, yeah, like
kuntashes are just okay. I think for real, Kuontash, you're over a
million dollars and I think it's like one point five million dollars. Well that's
because you know the the symbol of it. You know. I'm just again,
but we're talking about like I was talking. We're talking about like you
know, if you get like a twenty twenty one, you're still kind of looking at you know, a couple hundred thousand, right, I mean what I'm guessing it's less than half a mill right, kind of like three twenty five. I'm saying kind of compairs. Well. What I think some people
don't realize too, right, is like you could like kind of go off your point care and you can jump into the exact same car he's talking about for what they paid for it. Okay back then, right, because like
if you think about it, like and throughout the years, technology has only gotten better. Right, So if you jump into what what they were driving
before, you almost pay to get jumped. You guys are gonna get electric
cars. You guys are getting jump junk junk, That's what you guys are
gonna get that Because I'm not and I'm not acrs are junk. I'm just
saying, like in comparison, like they're they're made, it's just they'oughly need to last. For so one, we're all worried about going cheaper on all
these products, right, But I just have a feeling we're going to go to the cheaper end, but our prices are never gonna go back down to what they used to be. No, not even I mean, I'm not
talking about two thousand dollars cars, but like we just talked about, we basically cannot get a low sized car new car for under. I'm talking about
like not the best of the line, not the best. I'm gonna get
the basic value car for New Geometro for next to nothing, get it for about forty grand. I just feel like we're gonna make the electric car cheaper
and we're still gonna be paying forty grand even though it's I mean, that's that's okay, right, because you can't look at it, well, yeah, because you can't look at it as a solid number. You have to
look at it kind of as what your dollar is worth. Right, So
it's kind of like if my if my dollar's worth you know, five dollars and forty grands predict So that's back to the question, what are you willing to pay for what you believe is nice and what? Because okay, once
again, if you have if you want to buy a suv, let's say you want to buy a Chevy SUV and you want it to be nice boy, it depends on what you think you're paying for a Chevy suburban fully load.
We just did the Chevy suburban fully loaded. What do you think you're
paying for that? About eighty four? Eighty four? Right? But that
comes I know, but you're paying for right, I like if you went with the basic, like with you know what, like it depends like how basic you want to go? Are you going to go with like say a
cheaper cars. There's no really such thing as basic anymore? Right, like
everything the same. When I was a kid, basic meant it didn't have
power windows, you had option of AC or no AC. Like nowadays you're
not getting cards day so you're not getting roll up windows. There's too many
rolls on that now. I mean, not only people just start buying it.
I don't think it has anything to do with laws. Well, I
don't think it's people. I don't think it's more than people aren't buying it.
I just think that, you know, as time moves on, the basically, like you said, the standard of basic keeps moving up, so with people consider basic isn't really you know, basically, that's why the price kind of goes up with it, because now you have dual climbing. I
think touch screens. Touch screens were a premium feature back then, where you
had to pay money for touch screens every day. That's just that's just changed
because so was so it was a luxury to have roll up windows in cars that were power windows. Right, Okay, now every car basically has power
windows. You know me, but you laugh. I had I had many
cars that roll up windows, see me, but I was. I had
many cars that had roll up windows in them. It just wasn't a big
deal. Well, imagine how many businesses, you know, it had been
put out because of new technology has been put in cars. So almost like
when you think when you when you said touchscreen radios, right, imagine the radio business was crazy. It was. I got more I can elaborate.
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You're automotive specialist. Now back to your host, Dave Pilach, Hey,
guys, welcome back. So it's kind of funny. I always tell
you guys, the conversations that we have off their it in a Tannis sidetrack.
Sidetrack man, we can talk about everything. We were Literally we went
from well talking to you guys about cars, literally going into a completely different conversation during commercial break. Here's I want to I want to jump ship a
little bit and go I want to go to a different talker. I said
we were gonna come back some of the stuff. But so this, this
is concerning this one got sent to me. Did you guys hear about uh
the kid that got the ticket? Uh? Why was it the drive through
of the restaurant. I don't even understand that one. I did not.
I haven't checked to the Dews lately. So here's there's a kid who supposedly
is in the drive through lane ordering food at a fast food place, right, and everybody knows what the new norm is for a lot of these fast food places. By the way, before I can get to that, did
you see the video I sent you to the Taco Bell? Remember to talk
about what we've been talking about for like months now that I told you about the news. It's like a bank before Taco Bell. And it's on the
second story, right, so it if you know you're talking about the Uh yeah, you're talking about the bank like suction things like, Well, we've been talking about this for a couple of years now. I saw the original
plan, the original design for it, and I was just like, it's crazy. So it's supposed to be eventually, you know, everybody's twenty with
all automated fast food. Right, So the design for Taco Beller's the video
out of it, right, the second of something I don't know where it's built at. I think it's in California, and the guy goes through it
in videotapes it all. And I don't know if that one's fully automated yet,
but I know it looks like a good portion of it's already automated, which is just crazy because the designs of these, if you guys haven't seen them, they're two stories. You drive underneath them and in the Brooklyn Park,
Minnesota, where's it Brooklyn Park, Minnesota? Is that okay? So
I think we're gonna start seeing a lot of those. Like I said,
it's it's been years since I saw the original layout for it, but now one exists, and if you guys haven't checked it out, go check it out. Automated McDonald's automated. Talk about DeFi is it all automated? Everything
that it is automated, it's it's not fully automated. The original design that
I saw everything and I think it's fully automated when I was looking at it.
But let me see, am I the only one that doesn't like basically person interaction, like the no person interaction that we're going to. I don't
like, have you had to deal with anyone yet? I haven't had to
deal with the one the other day, but I was just thinking about, like the other day, it's like AI. I think it's like AI.
It's a touchscreen. I could imagine, so I had want to drive through
lane. So it was and it's it's like AI interaction. And Garrett's been
telling me about that. It talks to you, right, and it's like
what you're saying. The first time it happened, I was just like,
and then it took me a second to realize, like I'm talking to a box. So if you guys haven't had to deal with that yet, it's
a little weird. So anyway, what I'm talking about, So the new
norm right is to have the app on your phone for fast food to places you can order on your phone. You put the order through and then you
show and they go ahead and scan it or whatever, and then you get your stuff. Right. Even Chick fil A does like that, so spot
pull up, but Starbucks does it? I know Starbucks is one of them
as well, it does it? Come on? Now we have actual parking
spots now that say mobile pickup order only, right, So it's now this spot was crazy. And I told you guys about I saw. Was that
ECS Computers Computer Show. I think that's what it is, c S whatever
it was so Electronic Commuter Electric Yeah, look it up. I what it
is. But the they had it set up where everything's gonna like they want
it in the cars, right, So it's on your touch screen inside your car. CES. That's what it is, so uh, you hit the
button. I was thinking of East Coast Surface because I was thinking of Consumer
Electronics Show and I couldn't say it. So it was you have the touchscreen
in your car, and they have now where you can download these apps and everything's in your car or right from your touch screen in your car, and it goes directly to things. So that was like the next thing. So
so imagine that. So I'm trying to figure out how this plays into it.
Anyway, this kid's in the drive through lane and he takes his phone and I guess shows for the mobile app or whatever. And then a police
officer walks down the side of his car while he's still inside the line and says, hey, I'm gonna need you to pull over there, and gave him a five hundred dollars ticket for using his phone while behind the wheel of a motor vehicle. And I'm like, it's the norm at all these places
now to use your app and show your phone and stuff like that. So
with that being the norm, like, I don't know if that ticket's gonna stick. I haven't seen the outcome of it yet. Well, but I
reading on the story line the judge is gonna have to be careful with it, because I'm about saying because the judge is gonna have to be careful with it, because then anybody can refer to the case and say, well, with this case right now, Yeah, that's starts. That's what I ran
into with my whole self drug car thing. Hey man, let's just talk
about that this week. We don't we don't look at technology in the court
right way. We don't. We don't recognize technology in the course. But
can you imagine, like just I mean, i'd be furious here, I must say, what kind of dirt bag are you that that's like of all the things we need to be like worried about, and you're just you're trying to give a ticket, like why is in the drive up? But how
bad was that taco bell? Well, now you got to sit there through
the drive through line, get your ticket. Your food's now cold. You're
getting a ticket for a pointless reason in your mind. Your cold Now all
fast foods not fast food anymore about. I've gotten away from a lot of
fast food. Uh for whatever reason, we got way from it because I
got tired of being so bad all the time, and for what it costs, you could sit down in a restaurant eat nowadays. But it's it's always
cold. And like the last couple of times I've had fast food, it's
cold, I'm like it came out the window to me, and like you're trying to like and I'll pull off parking spot right and eating underneath the shade tree every once in a while if I have to past and it's cold, I'm like, it just kind of prey me sometimes what they're doing, because I've noticed this with and I won't name the place, but I've noticed this with one place. They are taking cars and sessions, so they'll do three
orders. They'll build those three orders, hand those three orders out, and
then bring bring in another three orders. One they're hoping that, Yeah,
you get bored and you just drive away. I'm not driving away. I
told you about the taco shack. I'm gonna call it that you guys want
to talk about. It was out here that told me it was a forty
five minute wait the drive or if you wanted to order, and I literally went, ah, wait, and then they were frustrated. I've been on
a place still won't name the place, same place and literally have sat there.
Now there are two different locations, but same company. I went to
a place thinking, okay, the other lines, the other lines gonna be really long. Drive through lane doesn't exist. It says that automated message,
HI, We'll be right with you, you know, big message, And I'm like where, I know where this is going. I'm gonna wait ten
minutes. You ever be at a place wait ten minutes after it says HI,
We'll be right with you. Look at it. He's right with you,
and they turn the lights off on you. It comes back yes,
yes, And then at the same time you go to a second place and the same same company does it at a second location. To you, I
have been where I'm like four cars back and then this person gets seen, that person gets seen in the next two cars, the car in front of me. The lights could turn off, and then all sudden people just stop
talking to the box and you've been waiting there for like twenty minutes for your turn to get up there. It's more annoying. It's more annoying than the
breakfast menu changing. Okay, at least with the breakfast menu changing, I
can still order lunch. But I can say I don't have those problems because
while you're like me, you do every once in a while you eat fast food. You actually have because I eats fast food as long as somebody.
When I had fast food, we had McDonald's others. Because I'm gonna tell
you, we were working in the garage and we went ahead and had it brought to the house and you ate it with me. You did you did?
You ate it? You shurd it, and then you complained about the
stomach urt afterwards. That's that's how I remember. So, like I said,
it's just it's one of those It's one of those things where you have all this technology that they're putting into cars, scary, all the different crazy technologies going to things, and now like you got police officers ticketing for using the tech. I don't, I don't get it. I don't. Who's
that the wrong there? Like, I mean, what do you mean,
Well, technically the restaurant is asking you to present that phone in the law is law like, so it doesn't matter with the that's like saying, well, he told me to shoot, so I did so, says he told me to I'm not well, I mean, sir, was there any influence?
I mean, like this falls back to the self driving car thing, right, and the car does something wrong? Who's responsibile? I wasn't driving?
But good, But it falls onna' the same thing. That's it's the
same. Well, it's just the same conversation. The problem is that the
law is in detailed enough, there's no such president hasn't been updated for how many years? Well, that's what I was saying, you know, it
hasn't been updated. So I mean, it's just it's just such an old
law that doesn't consume that type of some diction. Like I said, the
reason why self driving cars and all that, I think hasn't moved aggressively forward yet. Is because like I said, I told you guys were we're trying
to forgure out the laws they're gonna ride out. Like so this week,
California did the whole press release about, uh, the self flying robotaxis, so above the robo tax we were talking about flying roby taxes. So nobody's
even going to be driving acnomy. We're not namifying themselves. But they test
it. They tested uh the very first like air taxi or something like that,
and there was a whole press release on it and everybody, you know, and I told you, everybody's like, oh, we're gonna be twenty years. You don't like, No, we're not. It's not gonna be
twenty years before you get y'all. Do remember we were just talking about the
show Tech Troubles last week, where you know, we were just talking about systems being hacked and we're gonna put flying cars right, but I'm not, but I keep it here, right, But it's not so much the actual system getting hacked. It's more there's a flaw and what it's connecting to.
Here's the thing. Yeah, you're right, So yeah, it's gonna be.
We're gonna be a closed system, so it's gonna be a little harder, you know. But there, like I said, they already tested that
theory of moving from rooftop to major events. We're already talking about that.
So this this isn't going away anytime soon. I'm telling you it's not what
is going away as soon as need to a commercial break because we keep on blowing through it. Hold time right back, I gotta take a mercial break.
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Polach, Yes, welcome back. So before we went to course break,
we were talking about flying cars. You know, Nathing I made a pretty
good uh always make pretty good points. It made a good point. I
haven't seen it. So he watched this whole video about some of the things
that are holding us back on flying cars that I didn't even know. And
I so, y'all learn something new every middle grass he was talking about it.
It was so it was. It was. It was the dimensions that
we had to learn how to fly and before I think flying cars will ever become really truly successful. And then you know, we were debating about the
fact of what do we consider a flying car. Like there's ones that still
kind of look like cars and the ones that look nothing like a car.
And these really do exist. If you guys ever want to go take a
look at him, go look at all the different designs out there. I
mean I just literally pulled up while we were on commercial break and I showed them Athaniel, And there's like thirty seven different designs, but they all are out there. They're all go off three different really main concepts. Helicopter concepts,
right, which is a drone concept? Well, like, I don't
think it's helicopter, right, So isn't it like a quad copter is?
Don't we call that quad common because a quad copter is like a drone?
Yeah, but that's what it is, a helicopter. And but there's flying
to have. You know, it looks like a helicopters, just a helicopter.
Then you're just calling it whatever you want to call. It's not really
flying car. It might be called I mean, I can say the same
thing with if it has two wings on it as a plane. But no,
but here's the thing, so, yeah, here's the he's talking about the design. I just showed him one of the designs. It's been out
there for a while. It looks like a car. It has wings they
retract into the side of it. And that's that's the most famous way,
right, that one's been around for a while. Mold copter wanted design.
It's like the most newest setup that's really seems to be six But the video talked about basically saw in the third dimensional plane that you kind of fly on and we kind of you know, we've sawd that with driving, with doing bridges so we can kind of over each other. Is a very good point.
I don't think about either. And something is I've watched so many things
break on simple cars. So what saying that this ain't going and I'm supposed
to life in the middle of that. We are just now putting parachutes on
on planes, I know, right, and now when the engine goes out and the parachute pops the planes have you seen the ground have you seen that started doing? Like now the top explodes off and it pops a parachute and
it's supposed to be like four parachutes that catch the airplane still does some damage to the pods and replaced and para like that. Right, So you your
your pairt and you just how long that we just thought about this? Like
so that's that's kind of what I mean by what he says, Well, something fails obviously, like technology has changed, We're gonna start thinking about that, Like a helicopter doesn't really just well yeah, kindest I was gonna say, it doesn't really fall out of the sky when it stopped. It really
what it does when an air drafts right now, right when an air bag goes off right now, you're not expecting it, but when you're falling from the sky, you are how we saw we saw who Like I said that the phone car when it hits something, everything fills the phone Oh yeah, I still we still don't have that. I still think we need it,
but we still don't have that. Like you know, airbags were something that
were made fun of, Like what there was some movie that they did air bags before they really existed and they popped out and it was just like a glad trash bag in the movie that was supposed to be like an airbag.
Yeah, because they didn't really exist yet. So that was that was the
concept was there. And now it's you know, everyday technology. So I
thought, by now it's been like twenty five years that we'd had the phone car, by now you know what I mean levels to it. We'll get
there someday. Like I said, it's just well because right because like the
foam thing is a great idea, but initially, once it's deployed, the car is destroyed. Yeah, but a life is saying, is it though,
is it He's like you just break then you just like you just hit it with a certain powder. Maybe that's what they're channel saw. What's kind
of hindering the project is the clean up Now that makes that It makes sense.
Like I just thought we've I don't know, I just want to see the film Car now. I just thought that maybe we'd be clear by now,
because, like I said's what twenty five years since that movie was made or whatever it is. Watch next year, Cees. We talked about we're
gonna come out with foam cannons next year. You like, like I said,
like you have that right, like all this different technology, but I really they you know, what was it? I think by twenty twenty five
we were supposed to have like the first edition of what we consider flying cars out there. I think the drone idea will probably be the major safest right
as far as I'm concerned staability. I mean, you're right, the one
that we see that's been out there for longest. It has the winds and
stuff like that. It's just a plain designings It drives like sixty five miles
an hour, and then it turns. You slow down, you kick the
wings out and they can take off and stuff like that. It's just but
it han't have been easy though, because we created a car that can go in the water. I mean, and it's like a boat card. I
mean, you think it would have been able to First of all, we had fifteen Now we had boat cars in the fifties. It's really cool.
I kind of but we won't own one too. I would like, we
saw we saw it one in Florida. Remember it was out in the water,
and I would like when it's like a like a Metropolitan kind of can't it's called the amphib car things, but it looks like like a Metropolitan, like the size of by the Metropolitan. We did see this. Yeah,
But to go off nothing that was me and you Orlando, Yeah, yeah, I think so. But to go off to the point of what camera
was talking about about, you know, the flying car and maybe not be you know, capable of handling and we don't really know. But if you
think about, like we've been driving cars for almost one hundred years, we've done planes for almost you know what sixty years, and stuff, so all that combined, you know, technology stuff just kind of different types of like crash dummies, I mean, use it. I'm sure they probably did.
Pretty sure. We just sent the drivers every commercial that was like that was
like the staple of safety. But he so I was thinking about this the
other I was having a conversation with somebody their day, like the whole seat belt and people not wearing seat belts and stuff like that, Like I physically rank. I drove in two different cars that were people's everyday cars that the
door would fly open just on his own. You go around a corner,
the door would open. That's normal. It wasn't like like it is a
big deal now thinking about it, but like that's just what they had those people. That's what they owned. That's what that was like, that's that's
what their money allowed them to have. One of them was I won't It
was a family member of mine. I loved driving the car. It was
a Toyota. But every once in a while, the pasture door would just
open, and if you didn't have anybody in the car with you, you see the bungee cord attached to it. There was no bud when we probably
should have. I don't know what never was, but I drove that car
several times. I'm not gonna call the person out who owned it, But
anybody who knows knows. So I would just drive down the road and I'd
just go around a corner and make a left hand turn, and the passenger door just fly open as I was going, like I was making the left hand turns. Nobody in that seat. So I'm around the open with the
door wide open, and I'm literally trying to like keep the car steered after I come out of the turn lane and trying to find somebody to like reach over and try to get a whole part of the edge of the door to try to pull up just jerk the carwybody say, can you jerk the car?
You know? Let me tell it to the to the to the guy
who I think I'm pretty sure I took out a tail of his Ford Bronco with the door of that car, but I wasn't sure, and it was late at night. I wasn't gonna stop. This was many moons ago.
I apologize. Now, I'm just gonna say one night I needed I was
a smoker then, so I needed to go get a pack of cigarettes.
It's like two o'clock the morning. I hopped in the car and I went
for a ride, and I went on the corner and the door opened up, and it was snowing outside, so I couldn't really hear the door open upcause it was dark and I didn't really notice, and so I heard.
Wow, I was like shut down. That was shut now, And it's
because it came it bounced off what I believe was a was a red and white Ford Bronco. I'm just gonna surprised there was a person. I'm not
really sure that maybe that car had insurance on it fully at that time.
So he was going down and I kept on going. No, it was
parked on the side the road. Yeah, there was nobody around, and
I didn't really know who it belonged to because it was just out on the street and it wasn't parked directly across the street from my house or anything like that. So yeah, anyway, I apologize now, so I'll pay for
it later at some point in time, I'm sure purgatory, but yeah, just just let you know. But I knew two different people. I had
a friend whose parents had a car that I drove in that dumped two of my friends out of the car leaving a gas station one time. Because their
door used to pop open every once in a while, the back doors four door car, the back door on their pastor's side would pop open every once in a while. And we were leaving the gas station. They went to
a pool out around the corner of the door popped up. Now keep mind,
we had five people, five kids in the back seat, so of course you know you're already kind of squished in there. It popped open and
to them fell out. It's it's funny because I know, it wasn't a
big deal. You think that would be a big deal. It wasn't a
big deal. It was like they stopped, they got up, they got
back in the car with us closed door, and we just went on down.
It was because in the eighties they were teaching you guys to tuck and roll a lot. I mean, what's funny you say that, because when
I was growing up, I was driving with a family friend and that that did happen and he almost fell out. Doors popped open, doors popped open.
Yeah, one day. I mean, going around a turn, you
know, he starts to lean and we got to kind of catch it.
Now, we have all these safety devices and cars, you know what I mean. Like, but child going back some time, like all the things
child still a thing. Yeah, I required people have them. Well is
an electric now? No, Well, I think some of our electric like
it's pushed by them somewhere. They open up the door from the inside.
They're like, oh there, Yeah, I do it all the time.
Like when I flip down, I see the car, has it like to flick that little switch? You know, not anybody toes so they're stuck in
the car. I just think it's funny. Hey, guys, on that
note, we have come to the end of the show. Is come quickly,
we guys who I can get out here. But I want to remind
you guys before we leave, do not forget this next week coming up.
That's right, Friday, I'm going to be in Franklin and we're gonna be out at the NAPA in Franklin. We're gonna be out there hosting an event.
The Big Milwaukee's Display is gonna be out there. They're supposed to be
great sales and deals all day long. They're gonna be cooking food, we're
gonna be playing music, you name it will be out there. So come
out there and visit us. And then the very next day is July twentieth,
is Hepcat Honey's big huge hot rod show that's gonna be out Lancetown, Common. We're gonna have a white elephant auction out there, dunk tank,
you name it. Vendors, come out, hang out with us. Where
those two events back to back. You guys can't miss us. Like I
said, we'll go ahead and get out of here. Like I said,
I take it out my time. You guys want to say goodbye before we
get out of here. Enjoy your weekend. Have a good one. All
right, guys, We'll see you at the shows. Talk to you soon. H
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