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Speed Limits & Secondhand Rides
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About this episode
A lively discussion on the implications of proposed speed limiters in new cars, particularly focusing on California's push for mandatory compliance by 2032. The hosts debate the potential benefits and drawbacks of such legislation, expressing concerns about government overreach and the practicality of enforcing speed limits through technology. The episode also dives into the current state of the used car market, sharing personal experiences and frustrations with inflated prices and poor buying conditions. Listeners will find relatable anecdotes and insights on navigating the automotive landscape today.
Topics:
speed limiters
used car market
government regulations
car buying frustrations
geofencing
automotive technology
HOA restrictions
car trends
vans and mini trucks
restoration projects
Join us on "Speed Limits & Secondhand Rides" as we explore the rise of passive speed limiters in cities and the ins and outs of buying used cars. Tune in for insights, tips, and engaging discussions on the latest in the automotive world!
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Speaker 2: guys are out there and joining you guys are out Speaker 2: there car shows. Hey tell you guys if you didn't
Speaker 2: get a chance, I know a lot of y'all did that.
Speaker 2: We're here in the area to get out to the Speaker 2: Franklin event. It was a great event. Uh. Nathaniel and
Speaker 2: I are out there. Uh God, they had so many
Speaker 2: sales and all the Milwaukee stuff, and they were good sales.
Speaker 2: I mean, now I'll hear all the time, you're like, oh, Speaker 2: we're gonna have this big, huge sale and and and Speaker 2: whatnot and blah blah blah, and but it actually was Speaker 2: a a It was good discounts off or anything. A
Speaker 2: lot of people came out. I was walking people walk
Speaker 2: out with like just huge piles of tools. They had
Speaker 2: to go get the roll carts to.
Speaker 3: There was a demonstration so you can see everything, which.
Speaker 2: Is probably I guess that's probably the easiest way to Speaker 2: sell things is put it out there. We put their
Speaker 2: hands on a play with it like kids, you know Speaker 2: what I mean. Like that.
Speaker 4: We still got that diamond blade that we sold because Speaker 4: we were able to use it.
Speaker 2: When we were at Sema. We bought the diamond blade
Speaker 2: that goes for your for your cutter. And you know,
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Speaker 2: Enjoyed playing the race game with everybody who raced against us, Speaker 2: so we have a time trap game that we played Speaker 2: with everybody. It was cool. So it was a real,
Speaker 2: real good event. So I know Saturday's event got canceled
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Speaker 2: be out Landstown comment with that vig huge show should Speaker 2: be a great turnout. I heard fire Department everybody else
Speaker 2: gonna be out for that too, so it should be good.
Speaker 2: So it's going to be fun. It's gonna be fun anyway.
Speaker 2: It is up right into the news. Hey, So if
Speaker 2: you guys, remember somebody sent me a couple different articles Speaker 2: on this, and it's been kind of interesting. I've been
Speaker 2: telling you guys that I know we probably beat this Speaker 2: horse a bunch and it'll probably the last year. But
Speaker 2: I told you, guys, I knew it was coming. I
Speaker 2: knew it was coming. I knew it was coming. And
Speaker 2: not that I want to be right, but I'm right.
Speaker 2: The passive this is, this is gonna become a household Speaker 2: name probably at some point in time, passive speed limitter.
Speaker 2: Most of y'all don't know what that is. So remember
Speaker 2: how I told you that there was certain cities and Speaker 2: states that were trying to put together a bill and Speaker 2: a plan to make car manufacturers put in speed limitters Speaker 2: and cars. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, basically,
Speaker 2: it's like, think of a big geofence we've talked about.
Speaker 2: If you guys listen to the show before you've heard Speaker 2: about it. Once you hit a geofence, the car will
Speaker 2: have to reduce down to a certain speed and won't Speaker 2: go over that speed. So it would be restrict it
Speaker 2: to a certain speed in those geofence areas well. California
Speaker 2: of course, because we know California is crazy, they are Speaker 2: going ahead and pushing forward with that bill. There's a
Speaker 2: couple of other states. I told you guys before they
Speaker 2: were jumping on the bandwagon. Uh, here's the thing. This
Speaker 2: is probably gonna turn into a real thing. Guys. They
Speaker 2: to tell you how much they're pushing for this. They
Speaker 2: are pushing for complete compliance by twenty thirty two. That's
Speaker 2: not very far away. That means one hundred percent of
Speaker 2: new cars that are manufactured would have to have the Speaker 2: speed limit are built into the car already.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not a bad idea, right, we talked Speaker 3: about a little bit, right. I think we think it's
Speaker 3: kind of a necessary, you know, action for them to do.
Speaker 3: And you know in certain areas that they're trying to, Speaker 3: you know, mitigate less traffic thing.
Speaker 2: It's cuckoo crazy.
Speaker 3: You think it's cuckoo crazy. I just really, I think
Speaker 3: if you have a good structure in play, and they don't, Speaker 3: you know, I abuse. You know, the geo fencing and
Speaker 3: they just you know.
Speaker 2: Crammed down. That's key where they don't abuse. Right, we
Speaker 2: overstep like we know that our government oversteps everything, right, Speaker 2: like I mean, just they just do. They always do.
Speaker 2: And this is just gonna be one of those things.
Speaker 2: I use the I use the stamp reference, right, I mean, Speaker 2: look at what stamps started off at, how much they cost, Speaker 2: and where they are now. It's like, look at taxes.
Speaker 2: We're only gonna tax just a little bit way back Speaker 2: before any of us were around, but just look what Speaker 2: it's grown to now. I just I see how we're
Speaker 2: gonna do You remember.
Speaker 4: You remember Lime scooters and the uber birds and they Speaker 4: had speed limitters on them that didn't last for long.
Speaker 2: People were finding ways to get around them and everything.
Speaker 4: So I can find I can see people finding a Speaker 4: way how to get around the limitters on their own car.
Speaker 2: I'm not big. If you guys can't tell I like
Speaker 2: I like structure, I'm okay. I don't have any I'm
Speaker 2: not one of those crazy conspiraus kind of people. And
Speaker 2: if you are not, maybe not crazy. Maybe I just
Speaker 2: see it that way. But I'm just I'm not in
Speaker 2: that realm of things, right. But I do have a
Speaker 2: real big problem where I believe that when we overstep Speaker 2: our bounds, and I think when we crack doors open, Speaker 2: especially when it comes to legislation, when it comes with Speaker 2: cars and technology, that it always ends up bad. It
Speaker 2: just it just does. I mean history. Somebody said to
Speaker 2: me a couple of weeks ago. He's like, you know,
Speaker 2: we just keep on repeating history over and over again.
Speaker 2: We just introduced history. Well, yeah, I know I've heard
Speaker 2: the term or history peace itself. But I'm saying, we
Speaker 2: keep on. We've just we shovel the idea down the
Speaker 2: road just a little bit further. So if it wasn't
Speaker 2: if it was horses, then it became buggies, then it Speaker 2: became you know what I mean, like and there was Speaker 2: they had to keep on implementing rules, and then there's more, Speaker 2: and we just keep on shoveling down. Before you know it,
Speaker 2: we're just we're so weighed down with rules. It's every rule.
Speaker 2: I'm one of those people to tell you, guys, every Speaker 2: rule has somebody's name attached to it, like that that Speaker 2: that rule exists because of something somebody did, and that's Speaker 2: how rules and companies everything, that's how it comes apart.
Speaker 2: You should know that if you break it down into pieces, Speaker 2: everything that's there is because of what somebody did. That's
Speaker 2: how that rule became a lot. But this one, I
Speaker 2: don't know. This one scares me a little bit. I
Speaker 2: don't have any problem with geofences because I know that Speaker 2: we were to use them for advertising stuff. Like I
Speaker 2: told you guys about that where as you drive, advertisement Speaker 2: will pop up on your flat screen in your vehicle.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good idea. I think it opens
Speaker 3: up doorways for you know, Tesla and cars communicating with Speaker 3: each other kind of you know, you in the doorway Speaker 3: talked about it. I don't know, so, you know, I
Speaker 3: just one step down that, you know, we just got Speaker 3: to kind of mark off the bucket list.
Speaker 4: So do you think that there's going to be certain Speaker 4: areas now that only certain cars can access in other cars?
Speaker 2: That's what I wonder about.
Speaker 4: A limitter on it.
Speaker 2: I wonder about that because like the way it's been Speaker 2: explaining to me is is you enter the geo fence Speaker 2: if the governance speed liment on those roads is thirty Speaker 2: five miles an hour, the car can only venture like Speaker 2: three miles an hour over that speedel because there's a Speaker 2: variance of going up and downhill. So like, so there's
Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit of a variance, but that's Speaker 2: it as as fast as a car can go because Speaker 2: that's what the geofence is set up for. You can
Speaker 2: only go that speed in that particular area until you're Speaker 2: outside that area. But what happens if everybody puts in
Speaker 2: a geofence? Okay, so now you've got the city's got
Speaker 2: a geofence, and I I had to build a neighborhood Speaker 2: and I want to put a geo fence for speed Speaker 2: limiting in mind, Well.
Speaker 3: That's where that's where the governor's kind of comes in, right, Speaker 3: Like how many people can actually access the geo fence?
Speaker 3: Who's you know, initiating.
Speaker 2: If you can you build your own?
Speaker 3: Right? Can you build your own?
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think it should be more just a you know, Speaker 3: by state type thing, okay, right, and so it shouldn't Speaker 3: be like how I think like the tolls. My issue
Speaker 3: with the tolls is that you know, it's third partied Speaker 3: out and the tolls were kind of like you know, Speaker 3: by stay wise and stuff. I don't don't get me
Speaker 3: a little more, you know, okay with it because at Speaker 3: least you know the money or somewhat is going towards Speaker 3: you know, the state. No, no, and not to someone
Speaker 3: you know, third party.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 4: I paid. I paid for my roads, so look, I
Speaker 4: was the roads.
Speaker 2: Already paid for. That's the problem with the tolls. We keep
Speaker 2: on paying tolls. The roads are already paid for. Well,
Speaker 2: I was wondering, is paid for you to take care Speaker 2: of the roads. Don't tell me the tolls. That's what
Speaker 2: the are for.
Speaker 4: Now they're going to governor you on your own roads Speaker 4: that you paid for.
Speaker 2: So hey, right, I laugh because you used to be Speaker 2: a commercial a long time ago. And I can't remember
Speaker 2: what car commercial it was. It was for cars thing,
Speaker 2: but it was Dave's road, you know, I'm Dave. So
Speaker 2: I thought was great and it was just one little Speaker 2: like you came to like where the HV lane was Speaker 2: and it broke off into Dave Dave's lane and only Speaker 2: Dave could drive on that lane. But I see that
Speaker 2: and I start thinking about, like, is that where it's Speaker 2: gonna come to. We're gonna have like lanes are gonna
Speaker 2: be separated from Yeah, certainly I think.
Speaker 4: I mean well, I mean, we already have what bus lanes, Speaker 4: we already have bike lanes, we already have electric car.
Speaker 2: Let me if you twist them, let me let me Speaker 2: twist it for you.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's now stopping what what's not stopping Speaker 4: us from putting in special We're gonna have one lane Speaker 4: for gas vehicle, lanes for electric.
Speaker 2: Vehicle in twenty thirty two, when you guys are all Speaker 2: one hundred percent governed on the new cars d you Speaker 2: buy and I'm in my seventy seven trans am without Speaker 2: one on it, you guys are gonna look like standing Speaker 2: still objects as I go through traffic around you. I'm
Speaker 2: just I'll be following. What's what's the stop that from happening.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm that guy. I'm just saying there's
Speaker 2: gonna be those guys, you know what I mean, Like, Speaker 2: you're gonna have cars that don't have a governor on it, Speaker 2: and the cars are gonna be stuck in a speed.
Speaker 2: There could be one guy just he just whipping through traffic.
Speaker 2: How do you stop that? Do you make all the
Speaker 2: old cars have to have him installed almost like I mean, Speaker 2: and then you start thinking like a breathalyzer set up Speaker 2: kind of like almost the same kind of thing, like Speaker 2: how do you do that?
Speaker 4: Like my car is never going into the shop, never Speaker 4: going into the surprise, run for breaks, right right, surprise, Speaker 4: Why is my car feeling so slow?
Speaker 2: He's going to be the conversation.
Speaker 4: Now my car was at the shop and.
Speaker 2: The integrated to a brake system or something. I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like I'm just saying, there's that would be interesting.
Speaker 3: You think in a couple of years we'll probably do Speaker 3: cash for conquers again, and so to get rid of Speaker 3: the whole old cars and don't you know they can't control.
Speaker 2: Sure, I hate that we would do that because cash Speaker 2: for conquers a single handily killed the used car market, Speaker 2: single handedly killed the new car market on the same thing.
Speaker 2: And you can't fix anything because you can't find used Speaker 2: parts out there and around everybody.
Speaker 3: So that's kind that's kind of golden parts.
Speaker 5: Yes, they do.
Speaker 2: The used park business is huge and automotive repair because Speaker 2: you cannot get your hands on parts and you have Speaker 2: to go to the slightly used whatever you want to Speaker 2: call it, slightly used.
Speaker 4: But they were given a faster from You don't understand that.
Speaker 2: They It killed everything. It was one of the worst
Speaker 2: ideas we ever did. I'm sorry. If you disagree with me,
Speaker 2: send me hate mail. I don't care. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you from somebody who has grown up in the car world.
Speaker 2: Cash for clunkers was the single handedly stupidest mistake we Speaker 2: ever allowed to go through. And people stood there with
Speaker 2: their hand out and they're like, Oh, look all this Speaker 2: money I'm getting for my car that I only could Speaker 2: have got three hundred dollars when they got six grand Speaker 2: for it. Great, but move forward, and we are paying
Speaker 2: for it now. We've been paying for it for a
Speaker 2: couple of years. You cannot find parts to anything. Nobody
Speaker 2: has it. They're not mass producing because take a look.
Speaker 2: You take a look at all the different cars over Speaker 2: the last fifteen years. I can name probably ten of
Speaker 2: them right off the top of my head that we're Speaker 2: out there that you do not see on the road anymore.
Speaker 2: You just don't see them. They're nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2: There was thousands and hundreds of thousand out there all Speaker 2: over the road. You pulled the.
Speaker 3: Stops, you didn't see them.
Speaker 2: You're right there were so many. You pull to stop
Speaker 2: light and there's like seven I'm out of stoplight with Speaker 2: you and you don't see them at all. Why Cash
Speaker 2: for Conkers killed all of that. That was a used
Speaker 2: car market. And the think about it is people don't understand.
Speaker 2: There is like five tiers. Okay, I told you guys before.
Speaker 2: If you listen to shows years and year ago, we Speaker 2: had a.
Speaker 4: COMMI this a match.
Speaker 2: There is man you're little matter with because it did Speaker 2: it makes you angry. There's five tiers of used cars, right,
Speaker 2: so you have slightly used car and then it goes Speaker 2: down to the next dealership. That dealership sells the used car.
Speaker 2: Then there's next dealership. That guy sells the really used car,
Speaker 2: and then they have the it should have been scrapped Speaker 2: a long time ago a lot and it's still being Speaker 2: sold to somebody. The good thing about it is it
Speaker 2: kind of did away with that fifth tier lot a Speaker 2: little bit and got rid of it. But if you
Speaker 2: look in this segment this week, we are talking about Speaker 2: used car shopping because unfortunately I am back to looking Speaker 2: for a used car again because Hunter is now going Speaker 2: to be driving, so I've been steadily looking. We're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about it. I hate I hate using the word hate.
Speaker 2: I highly dislike the used car market right this second.
Speaker 2: It rather you're trying to buy from a dealership or Speaker 2: you're trying to buy from a private owner. It is awful.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely awful. It's the worst experience you can ever have.
Speaker 2: It probably rings right up there with going to the dentist, Speaker 2: I would say, right up there, side by side, which Speaker 2: I gotta go too soon. I'm looking forward to either.
Speaker 3: But it is closely related to pull and teeth.
Speaker 2: It is it, absolutely is it. It makes no sense.
Speaker 2: I know what something's worth. You're not gonna convince me
Speaker 2: any otherwise just because you've got to sit on a Speaker 2: lot or you're selling it out of your driveway. I
Speaker 2: know what that car is worth. I don't care what
Speaker 2: the market's trying to tell you it's worth. It's not
Speaker 2: worth that people are selling cars with one hundred and Speaker 2: sixty ninety thousand miles on it. They're trying to get
Speaker 2: six grand for them. I'm like, it's the car's done,
Speaker 2: that car is completely Why do you even have the Speaker 2: car up for sales?
Speaker 3: This a beer car, and a beer car is worth No, that's.
Speaker 2: Your winter car. The wind Car is the Winter Car
Speaker 2: is your winter Car. If you guys haven't got that episode,
Speaker 2: go check it out. But I'm just telling you it.
Speaker 2: I cringe every time I had to dive into the Speaker 2: used car market and everybody's like, well, just go buy Speaker 2: them a brand new car. Now, I didn't buy these
Speaker 2: two brand new cars when we did it. We're not
Speaker 2: buying brand new cars all the bat because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Things are gonna happen. Things are gonna get bumped and binged,
Speaker 2: and it's just it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: And that's not.
Speaker 2: Something that's it's really really not Hey guys, hold on Speaker 2: for a second. I gotta take quick mercier break. When
Speaker 2: come back, we'll jump a little bit more of this.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, guys some of my experiences of the Speaker 2: used car market this last couple of weeks, and I'm Speaker 2: not enjoying it. Hold time, We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're automotive specialist.
Speaker 1: Now back to your host Dave Polach.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So in the first segment, I
Speaker 2: was telling you guys about how much I just really justlike, oh, Speaker 2: shopping for a used car. Well, like I said, I'm
Speaker 2: back to looking for a used car again. Everybody's like,
Speaker 2: well day, if you're you know, you know everybody is, Speaker 2: and it is hard. Here's the thing. I don't particularly
Speaker 2: like to shop from people that I know, if that Speaker 2: makes sense, because I'm looking for a deal and they're Speaker 2: looking to make money. I mean, let's just be honest.
Speaker 2: I'm a little cheap. I mean I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I like, I like buy cheap. Best reason why I
Speaker 2: usually buy cars I need to be fixed and need something, Speaker 2: because I know I can buy them for let's.
Speaker 3: Be honest, everybody points the fingers, so it's kind of Speaker 3: like it's just better just to keep it, you know, Speaker 3: strictly business.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, right. So it's hard to buy from somebody
Speaker 2: you know, I got a lot of friends own car dealerships.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I could go down and get a good deal, Speaker 2: and I know they wouldn't give me a bad car Speaker 2: or whatever like that. But I I am. I like
Speaker 2: to I like a good deal, and I know a Speaker 2: lot of times if I buy a car and a Speaker 2: car lot, I'm not gonna get a good deal. Right
Speaker 2: the second, cars on car lots are ridiculously priced. I'll
Speaker 2: give you an instance, so as you guys know, I Speaker 2: think for first cars, I kind of like Hondas for Speaker 2: a kid's first car. Towards you guys, Honda Toyota's kind
Speaker 2: of staying that thing. So and I even ventured out
Speaker 2: a little bit, looked into a little bit of lexuses Speaker 2: because it's basically just you know, hype up Toyota. But
Speaker 2: you know, I'm kind of looking at everything that's out there, Speaker 2: and I'm looking for a certain year range, I'm looking Speaker 2: for certain miles. I don't want to have a whole
Speaker 2: lot of miles on it. So you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: little particular when it comes to it. But what people
Speaker 2: are getting for cars, like I was expressing in the Speaker 2: first segment, is absolutely just ridiculous. I mean, so if
Speaker 2: I had to rebuy Nathaniel's first car, right the second Speaker 2: I pay Almo was six grand for it. That's what
Speaker 2: they're going for it. If you guys remember he had
Speaker 2: a hont A Civics. You pay six grand for hont
Speaker 2: A Civic when just now clean for four or five Speaker 2: years ago at two grand, you had the exact same card, Speaker 2: I mean, the exact same car for two grand. Okay,
Speaker 2: move on to Cameron's car. Okay, the couple of cars
Speaker 2: he's had, and he's haid quite a few. If you
Speaker 2: start off with his first.
Speaker 4: One, did you just try to wait after I had Speaker 4: to mute my mic to talk about me, Wow, he's Speaker 4: his first one.
Speaker 2: I think I paid thirty eight hundred dollars for the Speaker 2: first car, and the tree took it out. So then
Speaker 2: we had the second car, and I think I paid Speaker 2: close to that about thirty eight for the second one.
Speaker 2: That car right this second would cost those two cars.
Speaker 2: So if you bought the first one, if you bought Speaker 2: the Jeep, the Jeep will cost you right this about Speaker 2: sixty seven hundred dollars right this second, which is absolutely insane.
Speaker 3: And then they were kind of high priced because they Speaker 3: were a little mileage.
Speaker 2: Well they were because I always got there a little Speaker 2: miles car.
Speaker 4: One owner cars too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a one owner guy.
Speaker 4: And just to you know again say that it wasn't Speaker 4: all my fault. Second car got tooken out by a van.
Speaker 2: Somebody run a stop, running to stop like still still, Speaker 2: we had to go back through and find another car.
Speaker 2: We keep it on ahead every time we found them Speaker 2: a good car. And look, finding one owner cars they
Speaker 2: have little miles on is not hard. It is hard,
Speaker 2: and I'm constantly searching, and a lot of times they Speaker 2: come to me through somebody who knows somebody. They're like, hey,
Speaker 2: I know, somebody's got one. They're getting ready get rid
Speaker 2: of them, Like what is it? And they'll tell me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, honey, miles the miles fit within range. You're like,
Speaker 2: and they're the original owner. I'm like, okay, now, I
Speaker 2: definitely want to go see it. So and those deals
Speaker 2: are still out there, just like when people don't believe Speaker 2: there isn't barn finds out there anymore, they're still barn Speaker 2: finds out there. I mean there you can find good cars,
Speaker 2: but it takes work to find them. When you can,
Speaker 2: I cannot stand like going on to the marketplace and Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, because first of all, I Speaker 2: don't know what happened to the sales men approach. There
Speaker 2: is none there. I know what I got. Don't try
Speaker 2: to talk but down, don't call me between uh, every Speaker 2: hour of the day except.
Speaker 3: For one hour, we have the different for sale.
Speaker 4: Half of them are people just driving and they've gotten Speaker 4: they've gotten bold. They'll go take it to somebody's front
Speaker 4: yard to go yeah, and they're like, all right, well, Speaker 4: and you look up that.
Speaker 3: I love the post where it's like more photos for Speaker 3: those that are interested, and you're like, but you're selling Speaker 3: on the pictures up.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I got two pictures of this car.
Speaker 2: They're the worst pictures, or people who are too lazy Speaker 2: to move the car. Like they take a picture and
Speaker 2: it's park next to two other cars, so you can't Speaker 2: even see the side of the car. They had to
Speaker 2: take a front picture and a back picture, and then Speaker 2: they want outrageous money for it, and then they try Speaker 2: to give this long speech. Spot don't be sending me
Speaker 2: questions about it. I'm not answering nothing. You see what
Speaker 2: you see, you get what you give out.
Speaker 4: Like how people that post like a billion photos. They
Speaker 4: post a big paragraph, but it's nothing important. They don't
Speaker 4: post like how many on the car? Like my old
Speaker 4: tells you how you got it, just says like a Speaker 4: whole story of why they're getting rid of it.
Speaker 2: I literally answered five different ads within the last two Speaker 2: weeks on cars. How many people do you think got
Speaker 2: back to me? One?
Speaker 3: Zero?
Speaker 2: Zero? Zero people out of the five people of the
Speaker 2: cars are I'm like, hey, you know see, I like Speaker 2: to go ahead and you know, come see it. Tell
Speaker 2: me a little bit more about it. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: we can do nothing. Zero response.
Speaker 4: Another thing I don't like when they do message back Speaker 4: right and you start asking questions and then they realize Speaker 4: you're a car person and.
Speaker 2: To answer, they're just like ghost. It's just estimate questions,
Speaker 2: like so, what can you tell me about the car?
Speaker 2: It's a car, Okay, this is gonna be interesting. How
Speaker 2: many miles are on? I'm not real sure right this second.
Speaker 2: You if you're driving it, you should know how many Speaker 2: miles on? Then you start so then you a recent
Speaker 2: repair you had to do on it? Why are you
Speaker 2: getting rid of it? It's one of the questions I asked,
Speaker 2: why why are you partner ways with. I asked that
Speaker 2: question all the time. It's legitimate question, I think, to
Speaker 2: ask him, why are you deciding not to have this Speaker 2: vehicle in your life anymore?
Speaker 4: I like the antwer like ghost, you know, when people Speaker 4: are like, we just got a new car, it's just Speaker 4: sending to the side, might as well get it out Speaker 4: of the lot. You're like, that's a car. I want
Speaker 4: you know that that might be a car.
Speaker 2: Truth if it's the truth. If it's the truth, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: It kind of reminds me of the Matilda moment where Speaker 4: the guy where the guy comes in he's a used Speaker 4: car person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, add up these numbers. I bought this
Speaker 2: car for nine hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: I sold it for a whopping.
Speaker 2: Seven thousand dollars. No, it's good, it is. It's literally,
Speaker 2: I just it pains me so much every time I Speaker 2: don't like the process. I think I've told you guys
Speaker 2: that many times. That's probably the reason why I look
Speaker 2: for broken cars, because a lot of times broken car Speaker 2: it kind of it is what it is, like, I Speaker 2: just need to go out there, take a look at Speaker 2: what's really broken. Spin it over. Does the story match
Speaker 2: up with what's supposed to be broken, and a lot Speaker 2: of times it doesn't. By the way, people they try
Speaker 2: to pool all over your eyes. I can quickly pretty
Speaker 2: much tell if you tell me, well, it just needs Speaker 2: a starter and maybe a set of tires, I'm like, okay, cool, Well, Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and digging this for a second Speaker 2: because I'm gonna tell you if it really needs a Speaker 2: starter or not, you know what I mean. And then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, people get real sketched out because it's Speaker 2: not hard to determine if a car just needs a starter, Speaker 2: if the engine's locked up, that's a whole nother story, Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, oh, if you just
Speaker 2: had to start it, run just fine real quick.
Speaker 4: While you're talking about that. So my friend was just
Speaker 4: buying a car and I told him. I was like,
Speaker 4: go g I was like, I can come out there, Speaker 4: I can bring this skin. And he's like, oh, it
Speaker 4: doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put theim on the blast. But we
Speaker 2: were having the conversation last week about it, right, but.
Speaker 4: He was like, oo, it doesn't have no lights onny Speaker 4: I told him, and tell me if this is true. Okay,
Speaker 4: I know a little bit about cars, but I don't know, right, Speaker 4: can't I hook a scanner up to the car and Speaker 4: it will tell me all of the previous codes that's Speaker 4: ever showed.
Speaker 2: And if he's scart enough to clear the history, a Speaker 2: lot of times you're not gonna see anything because the Speaker 2: history is gone. And now if you just clear the code,
Speaker 2: and you didn't, and there's certain cars that still will Speaker 2: hold some history on the back side if you clear Speaker 2: the code, but you can still see what was h Speaker 2: back there. But if he didn't go and clear everything out, then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got kind of way for time to right Speaker 3: the pop up right.
Speaker 4: So that's what I was wondering, like if there was Speaker 4: like a way where you could go into the car, Speaker 4: because I've always wondered and like always wandered, like could Speaker 4: we get.
Speaker 2: Away from that? Like sometimes I can tell you how
Speaker 2: to do that. So if you go to buy a
Speaker 2: car and you assumed, because most people are very smart nowadays, Speaker 2: and they just turn off the check engine lights when Speaker 2: you come take the car, ask tape car for a Speaker 2: nice long ride. Hopefully the guy's smart enough. Well hopefully
Speaker 2: you get lucky enough I should say that you get Speaker 2: ride in it without the owner in it, take it Speaker 2: for a nice long ride, get the car hot, and Speaker 2: cycle that key about fifty times. That means go find
Speaker 2: a parking lot, turn that key off, turn it back on, Speaker 2: turn it off, turn it back on, and keep on Speaker 2: restarting the car. Because after so many cycles, if they
Speaker 2: had to check engine light and it's got a problem, Speaker 2: it's gonna pop that light right back on, and then Speaker 2: you're gonna know what ends up happening is is sometimes Speaker 2: it takes twelve, thirteen, sometimes more key cycles for that Speaker 2: light come on. He just cleared it. He clears it
Speaker 2: every single time somebody comes out to come take a Speaker 2: look at the car. You get it, you think everything's good.
Speaker 2: You go down the road, sales final, and then about Speaker 2: the third or fourteen you take that car like let's Speaker 2: say you just you drove it home, you put in Speaker 2: your driveway, GetUp in the morning, you go to work in Speaker 2: it or whatever. You decide to driving D and D
Speaker 2: go all the paper straight. The light hasn't come on,
Speaker 2: and now you had the car for a couple of days, Speaker 2: and also in the light pops on, it's because code Speaker 2: was cleared. It took some many key cycles for to
Speaker 2: turn it back on again. It's just it's unfortunately, it's
Speaker 2: what people do. It's just they just do it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, well.
Speaker 3: I answer the question. I can, but it's not guant guarantee.
Speaker 4: Okay, there is, yeah, because I was like, man, it Speaker 4: just took up a computer.
Speaker 1: Times.
Speaker 2: See you guys going out when we go to look Speaker 2: for a used car, and I take my scanner with me.
Speaker 2: I take my scan with me for the reason if Speaker 2: anybody doesn't want me to plug into it, I have Speaker 2: no interest in buying a car. What do you hiding.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna hurt the car for me to plug Speaker 2: into it. What are you hiding? I just want to know.
Speaker 2: I want to see what's I'm smart enough to know Speaker 2: that you can go down to AutoZone and have them Speaker 2: clear it for you, or you can buy yourself a Speaker 2: little fifty dollars scanner nowadays and plug it in and Speaker 2: clear your codes out. I know that. I mean, let's
Speaker 2: let's just be honest. Like I said, I go out
Speaker 2: and look for cars that are broken for a reason.
Speaker 2: A lot of times I'm looking for ones with bad Speaker 2: transmissions in them, or blown head gaskets and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Things I know I can quit body panels.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've bought a couple that had some body panels.
Speaker 2: I took over the body eye and let them get Speaker 2: a fixed. For the most part, I'm trying to leave.
Speaker 2: I don't never want to really mess with the body Speaker 2: less I have to. But if you got a blown
Speaker 2: a head gas, it's a weekend in the garage and Speaker 2: I'll put a head gasket in it and be called Speaker 2: a day. If it's a transmission, pretty easier to take
Speaker 2: transmission out, fixed up with transmission back in it. So
Speaker 2: I'm looking particularly for those type of cars a lot Speaker 2: of times because I can buy an expensive car that Speaker 2: normally would cost me, say seven eight, nine thousand, ten Speaker 2: thousand dollars for it's a used car. That's a lot
Speaker 2: for a used car that's decent, and I can buy Speaker 2: it for a couple thousand dollars, put my time and Speaker 2: energy in, and now I got ten thousand dollars car Speaker 2: that maybe have thirty five hundred dollars wrapped up in.
Speaker 2: That's it, you know what I mean. Just makes sense.
Speaker 2: And if you have that knowledge, great on you. If
Speaker 2: you don't find somebody who does, it might be able Speaker 2: to help you and you can score a good car Speaker 2: that way, but you got to be able to be Speaker 2: willing to put the effort in the time and to Speaker 2: do it. I'm a little different. I have the space
Speaker 2: inside my garage and I have a lipt. Most people
Speaker 2: don't have that, and I got all the tools oneaed Speaker 2: and the knowledge, so I can maneuver in that world Speaker 2: a lot of user than most people can. And I
Speaker 2: understand that. But most of us either a car guys
Speaker 2: listen to the show, or people listen to the show Speaker 2: because they just enjoy the show. Because it's knowledgeable, you
Speaker 2: will know somebody that might be able to help you Speaker 2: get over that hurdle. Maybe it doesn't need all stuff.
Speaker 2: It maybe just needs all breaks it's done on it Speaker 2: stuff like that. It's not hard to do breaks, guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've never done breaks before, just YouTube Speaker 2: it real quick. I mean literally, you can pretty much
Speaker 2: do most break stuff yourself pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: Even with those tools and that lift. We still take
Speaker 4: our cars to our NAPA shops.
Speaker 2: See we do. Yeah, here's the thing, guys, my time
Speaker 2: is my money, you know. I mean, like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of times I take my car one of the Speaker 2: NAP shops so let them go ahead and do the Speaker 2: work because I trust them. You guys know this reason
Speaker 2: why they sponsored the show. I know I can take
Speaker 2: it to anyone that's you know, it's on our list Speaker 2: and get great service and have the car taking care Speaker 2: of and sometimes just quick to let them do the Speaker 2: breaks from me real quick than do it myself. So
Speaker 2: keep that mind. Hey, guys, I gotta take quick marushire break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna jump into it. Hoa's
Speaker 2: We've talked about this a little bit, but this one's Speaker 2: kind of crazy. Hold tight, we'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So I alluded to before we
Speaker 2: went to commercial break, the good old conversation of HOA.
Speaker 2: So check this out. You guys know that if you're
Speaker 2: a car guy, I mean you could be a boat guy, Speaker 2: camper guy, or anything, but this car show, but it Speaker 2: all relates living on an HOA probably will not work Speaker 2: for you. They don't let you work on your cars
Speaker 2: in front of your house. You can't have any project
Speaker 2: car in front of your house. I mean, there's all
Speaker 2: different kind of rules go do. And we talked about
Speaker 2: it before. This is the crazy one that got sent me.
Speaker 2: I've had a couple of them, but this is the Speaker 2: craziest one that got sent to me. So there's an
Speaker 2: h o A in Florida that has just passed a Speaker 2: ban on having pickup trucks.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how that's possible, because it's like Speaker 4: we were just talking a couple years ago, where pickup Speaker 4: trucks are.
Speaker 2: Going to be car. The sales on Ford Chevy, guys
Speaker 2: want a lot of Karen's on Ford, Chevy, Dodge, even Toyota.
Speaker 2: The sale growth has gone up because people are switching Speaker 2: a pickup trucks. As we told you guys, you know,
Speaker 2: they are like a luxury car. Nowadays, there's nothing you
Speaker 2: can't get in a pickup truck.
Speaker 3: So so what was the reason for banning pickup trucks.
Speaker 2: You know, they didn't really give a reason for it.
Speaker 2: They just don't want they don't want pickup trucks and driveway.
Speaker 2: Now here's a crazy thing. People already own your house,
Speaker 2: you already own a pickup truck, and now that man, Speaker 2: So what's the solution. There is a parking lot, two
Speaker 2: of them. I guess there's one that's half mile away.
Speaker 2: There's one of those a mile away. These people are
Speaker 2: having to park their cars in a parking lot a Speaker 2: half mile to at least a half mile away from Speaker 2: their house, and that's where they have to store their Speaker 2: truck at and they can't put it their driveway. Now,
Speaker 2: you guys know, we've had conversations about HOA before. I'm
Speaker 2: not an HOA fan because I've had a lot of Speaker 2: people write me letters or send me emails and every Speaker 2: kind of stuff about all the problems they've had with HOA.
Speaker 2: I've even had a friend of mine who told you Speaker 2: that who bought a townhouse it did not learn I Speaker 2: don't even know how this never came up, but did Speaker 2: not learn that he didn't own the driveway in front Speaker 2: of his townhouse.
Speaker 3: I was not a question you asked, like, hey, you Speaker 3: may I knew own my driveway.
Speaker 2: I would have never thought to ask that either. But
Speaker 2: after he lived there for about six months he found Speaker 2: out the hard way. His vehicle got towed out of
Speaker 2: his driveway and impound it because he didn't have the Speaker 2: proper sticker. You just got a car and he didn't
Speaker 2: have the proper sticker. It's in his driveway and they
Speaker 2: took out a drive and he's like, wait a minute, Speaker 2: I wasn't parked out on the street.
Speaker 3: Didn't nobody in the neighborhood own their driveway.
Speaker 2: Nobody in the neighborhood owner.
Speaker 3: Very interesting, right, Like I just I guess it's how Speaker 3: you keep an h AA in business.
Speaker 2: I guess I guess it is. But no, you keep
Speaker 2: your company. The h away guy must have owned the
Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing that I thought was crazy. He
Speaker 2: had a car stolen out the driveway right why he Speaker 2: lived there? And I said to him jokingly, but I
Speaker 2: kind of meant it. I was like, okay, well is
Speaker 2: the responsibility? I was like, you know, is their insurance
Speaker 2: going to take care of getting you another car? Was
Speaker 2: still I mean, it's not your driveway, right, you just Speaker 2: parking it? Maybe their insurance should take care of that,
Speaker 2: you know. He's like, Dave, don't work that way. I
Speaker 2: was like, I know, I don't, but you should. I mean,
Speaker 2: but it's just.
Speaker 3: Why doesn't it work that way though? Is their property?
Speaker 2: Well, because you got car insurance suposed to car and Speaker 2: sure is supposed to take care of it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but it's their secured driveway, right, No, I Speaker 4: got it.
Speaker 2: I just so you got to it was crazy that Speaker 2: you didn't own your driveway. I didn't even know that
Speaker 2: was even what a fee for?
Speaker 4: What? For parking in your drive I know, it's crazy
Speaker 4: to have to pay a see so in his place, Speaker 4: you did because you had to pay them money for.
Speaker 2: A sticker parking to be on your car so you Speaker 2: could park in your own driveway. So essentially, yes, it
Speaker 2: costs you to park in front of your house.
Speaker 4: And it was a yearly sticker, you know, it was sticker, Speaker 4: Sure it was, And I was just like forgot.
Speaker 2: You imagine there's another neighborhood that's close to me that Speaker 2: as a conversation a couple of time. I don't think
Speaker 2: we talked about it on the show. But the houses
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood, i'm gonna say are probably between six Speaker 2: and seven hundred thousand dollars homes. Okay, nice over moderate
Speaker 2: home in this area, I would say, But in front Speaker 2: of these houses are these big, huge TACKI no parking signs, Speaker 2: you know on the on the tacky green staked in Speaker 2: pole that's you know, got all the little weird bumps Speaker 2: on it and stuff like that. And then here's the
Speaker 2: big tax. Yeah, it was a big taxi sign riveted
Speaker 2: to the pole in front of every single like seven Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars home. Now, that probably doesn't seem maybe
Speaker 2: like a big deal to anybody before it for me, Speaker 2: if I had a seven thousand dollars home, seven hundred Speaker 2: thousand dollars home, I don't want to be staring out Speaker 2: at a tacky sign in my front yard and went, Speaker 2: they're big signs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how you really have?
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, who would buy the who Speaker 2: would buy a house? Where a? And it says no
Speaker 2: parking on the street, So you can't park anywhere on Speaker 2: the street, that's what the sign says. But the driveways
Speaker 2: only fit like four cars in them, So what if Speaker 2: you ever wanted to have people over four kids?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, What if I owned four cars already and it Speaker 2: already takes up every parking spot in my driveway and Speaker 2: somebody wants to stop by my house there's no parking Speaker 2: on the street. I couldn't wrap my head around it.
Speaker 2: And I remember the first time I saw it, I Speaker 2: was on a bike ride and that's how I came Speaker 2: across the neighborhood and I was just like, oh, well maybe, Speaker 2: and then I went down to the next house. The next
Speaker 2: one had one, and I was like, I was like, Speaker 2: then I started thinking, somebody built this neighborhood, and in Speaker 2: my mind, there's got to be like a main house.
Speaker 2: There's like there's a house. The house was already there,
Speaker 2: and they decided to take maybe their farming land or Speaker 2: whatever and build the neighborhood. And then he wanted all
Speaker 2: these restrictions so they I would I would never a Speaker 2: millionaires to do it. And then just recently I saw
Speaker 2: that people are building like fences. Now we're we're out
Speaker 2: in middle nowhere, they're building fences around their yards. And
Speaker 2: so I asked one of the people, I know, the liberal Speaker 2: down cars, like all these these fences are in the Speaker 2: ark they now implemented in this little Hoa area. I
Speaker 2: guess that they don't want to see anything that's you Speaker 2: got your So if you've got like a camp or Speaker 2: an a, a TV trailer or anything like that, they Speaker 2: don't want to see it in the road. So you
Speaker 2: got to build a fence around this.
Speaker 3: One guy, I laughed, did you see the I say, Speaker 3: you see the there's an article out there of a Speaker 3: dude that in a similar ho A.
Speaker 1: You know, turn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, putting the fence and then he paying the boat, Speaker 3: which is basically what he was trying to cover up Speaker 3: on his fence.
Speaker 2: Oh, I give the backstory. So there's a guy. Go
Speaker 2: look it up. Hold on, he lives in the ho a, right,
Speaker 2: and so he lives in this hoa and he had Speaker 2: a boat parked in his like second little driveway spot Speaker 2: and it's backed up on the side of the house.
Speaker 2: It's not a junkie boat. It was a nice boat.
Speaker 2: But he had a boat. Well, they started complaining about
Speaker 2: it and told me he needed to block the boat Speaker 2: so you couldn't see the boat from the street. So
Speaker 2: he said, okay. He went and built a fence, guys,
Speaker 2: that goes over the boat, and then painted an identical Speaker 2: picture of his boat on the outside of the fence, Speaker 2: so when you stare at the fence, it's a picture Speaker 2: of his boat. And I guarantee that it was so
Speaker 2: And he's like, I just had to do it because Speaker 2: I thought it was so petty for them to give Speaker 2: me a hard time over the boat that I decided Speaker 2: to be petty back and I laugh and think it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Go look it up, guys, it is. It's it's great.
Speaker 2: But the neighborhood that I was telling you guys about Speaker 2: now I want to talk about petty people can be Speaker 2: petty too. So I told you they got a build
Speaker 2: fences around things, right, just like this guy. He had
Speaker 2: a bill fence so you couldn't see the boat. There
Speaker 2: is one house that has put I know he's got Speaker 2: because I go through that area a lot. I'll ride
Speaker 2: bikes through there and stuff like that. He's got a camper,
Speaker 2: he's got he's got an ATV trailer. ATV's on it,
Speaker 2: and I think he's got a doom buggy that I've Speaker 2: seen one time out there. He just built a square
Speaker 2: fence in the middle of his field because he's on Speaker 2: like three or four acres. But they don't want you
Speaker 2: to see anything.
Speaker 5: It what was mine.
Speaker 2: It's farm land. I'm not much for people keeping junk
Speaker 2: all over your land. Giving look, I understand, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like stuff. But we're
Speaker 2: talking about this is a nice trailer. It's a nice
Speaker 2: ATV trailer. The doom buggy assa author one time. Nice
Speaker 2: doom buggies and these aren't junk. So he just built
Speaker 2: a square fence right around that fits everything in it, Speaker 2: right out and over.
Speaker 3: But now it looks like junks.
Speaker 2: So now it's just this weird square fence out in Speaker 2: the middle of this field that hides his stuff and Speaker 2: it's but it's funny to me. I'm like, that's probably
Speaker 2: what I would have did. I mean, I'm that petty.
Speaker 2: I would have been that petty too. I mean, but
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know, how do you get to Speaker 2: that point? Did you not know you get in the house,
Speaker 2: you didn't know that had all these rules.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything that stopping them from changing, Speaker 3: you know, laws in the Hoa.
Speaker 2: They want as they go. Like I said, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I told her I had a friend as Speaker 2: many years ago, proably about twenty years ago, because the Speaker 2: kids were younger that lived in Hoa, and the way Speaker 2: he beat them. He became the president and they just.
Speaker 3: Went ahad and changed all them That's the way they Speaker 3: did the rules.
Speaker 2: But how he wanted him, that's how he beat it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, now that's smart, because he was Speaker 2: he was getting problems about his vehicles. He had him,
Speaker 2: his wife, his daughter, and then when people come visit, Speaker 2: like where do you park was no parking for anybody Speaker 2: ever come visit. You like, the houses right on top
Speaker 2: of each other. You couldn't really park on the street.
Speaker 2: Some Hoa's have like a cul de sac at the Speaker 2: end where you can park at the end of it Speaker 2: and then walk down to people's house. They didn't even
Speaker 2: have that. So they just got and give him so
Speaker 2: much a hassle that he finally, I don't know how Speaker 2: he did it. Somehow he became the president and he
Speaker 2: just started changing the rules to fit what he wanted, Speaker 2: which was smart.
Speaker 3: Iways be thinking like even with like the city ridance, Speaker 3: right even with HOA and stuff. You know, there's a
Speaker 3: house over here in the back roads that they basically Speaker 3: have like a sewage storage unit that sits right in Speaker 3: the middle of a you know, seven hundred thousand our house, Speaker 3: and you would kind of like fear like why they Speaker 3: decide to put it right in front, but.
Speaker 2: Like their their subject tank and stuff. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: mean yeah, but it's obvious he's like probably where they Speaker 2: were told they had to put it.
Speaker 3: You think so, but it looks like it's probably like Speaker 3: city wise because it's a city bricker mortar, you know, Speaker 3: billion wires.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I know it's talk about you talking Speaker 2: about a pumping station. There's right. I've seen that too,
Speaker 2: and that's just a house at a pumping station.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't there when they when they started building Speaker 3: that house. So you kind of like figure like what
Speaker 3: made them put it right in from the house.
Speaker 2: Maybe where like I said, we're probably where I had Speaker 2: to go. I don't know, like I can tell you
Speaker 2: that when we built this house, I was told exactly Speaker 2: where my steptic hank could go. It had to go
Speaker 2: on a certain spot. That's just but like it wasn't
Speaker 2: cook it's not connected to the city. Obviously accept a tank.
Speaker 2: But I was they the placement was made by the city, Speaker 2: not by me. It was like, okay, it has to
Speaker 2: be right here.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The good thing about it was I didn't have to Speaker 2: have a mountain system here, so uh it makes it Speaker 2: a lot easier. But still I just don't understand, like
Speaker 2: there's certain regulations that go for everything that just blow Speaker 2: my mind. And how you end up buying a house.
Speaker 2: You if you told me I had to have a Speaker 2: seven hundred thousand dollars home with a big, huge Tachi Speaker 2: sign in front of it, I'd be like no, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I mean that would have been like the first thing Speaker 2: for me. And then when I look and see my driveway,
Speaker 2: you can only hold four cars, and they're probably gonna Speaker 2: tell me how much wider the driveway can had. I
Speaker 2: can't expand it and go wider. Can't do this. I'm like,
Speaker 2: now that'd be the second red flag for me. Nope,
Speaker 2: that's definitely not gonna work. But every one of those
Speaker 2: houses is sold. But now I kind of hear the
Speaker 2: coming out of neighbor people like, well, this is ridiculous, Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'd agree with you. It is ridiculous
Speaker 2: because if you want to have a Super Bowl party Speaker 2: or whatever, where do people park? What are you gonna
Speaker 2: go park them? Like out of the neighborhood, out in
Speaker 2: a grass field that belongs to somebody else, and they'll Speaker 2: get towed probably from there too.
Speaker 3: Which is tacky as well.
Speaker 2: Where it is. I just I don't know, guys. You
Speaker 2: tell me how you guys battle. I can't believe hoa's
Speaker 2: have this much power to be able to tell you Speaker 2: can't park a pickup truck in your driveway and you Speaker 2: gotta go park it at the minimum half mile away.
Speaker 2: I mean what do you do? Park another car over
Speaker 2: there and just keep on tag team and cars back.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you do it? I mean you
Speaker 2: tell me. I want to know. I gotta take quick
Speaker 2: work corcial break. When you come back, we got some
Speaker 2: more for you. So you guys, haink tight. I'll be
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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back.
Speaker 3: So here's a weird one for you guys.
Speaker 2: You know, I tell you like car trends and stuff Speaker 2: like that, they tend to come back around and the Speaker 2: new ones are invented. Like one of the ones I
Speaker 2: didn't understand. You ever seen the Japanese cars with the big,
Speaker 2: huge tailpipes sticking off the back room like seven feet Speaker 2: in the air. Have you seen those cars? And yeah,
Speaker 2: what they do this is aw I don't understand that trend, Speaker 2: but apparently it is a huge trend, like in Japan.
Speaker 2: I mean, now that's somebody's style. They like it. I
Speaker 2: don't get it. I saw one here in America a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago that was driving around. They're probably
Speaker 2: eight foot high tailpipes sticking out of the back, just Speaker 2: straight up in the air, and then they were chopped off Speaker 2: like kind of watermelon.
Speaker 3: Out and it's a cool look for the right car.
Speaker 3: Oh No, like it like an eighties car playing.
Speaker 2: Eight foot stacks sticking on they're sticking out. Bumper is bump?
Speaker 4: I mean, if it was a drag car. Okay, it's
Speaker 4: a Honda, I know, but if it was a drag car, Speaker 4: you know, like because you got to think some people Speaker 4: have exhaust comings out the side and everything. I could
Speaker 4: totally we see a drag car with eight foot exhaust, Speaker 4: you know, so when every time it pools off and Speaker 4: it doesn't wheelie, the exhausts are touching in the back.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I can picture in my head.
Speaker 3: Like it's a street trust Trust.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. There's certain things that are coming
Speaker 2: back that I kind of like. Now Nathaniel, we we
Speaker 2: talking about it on commercial break. It's not his thing.
Speaker 2: The van. I told you guys, probably about a year ago,
Speaker 2: I saw a movement towards vance. The prices of bands
Speaker 2: were starting to go back up. I'm talking like g
Speaker 2: thirty vans. People are doing them with toyoavans now, but
Speaker 2: all differentimes bands, but the biggest, the coolest ones I Speaker 2: really like. I like the Chevy Vans, and some of
Speaker 2: the over four bands were kind of cool and they're Speaker 2: like the Scooby Gears. Well yeah, but these guys are
Speaker 2: like laying them low. Like it was really really big
Speaker 2: in the eighties to customize the Chevy Vands. So look
Speaker 2: at Cheech and Shong had one if you've never seen Speaker 2: the movie, but they had one. It was all lowered out.
Speaker 2: People are going that extreme with crazy paint jobs and Speaker 2: again and it is making around. Somebody had sent me
Speaker 2: a video. I think it was called Manfest. Somebody correct
Speaker 2: me that I was wrong, but I think that's what Speaker 2: it was title when it was sent to me. They
Speaker 2: may actually have a real name to it. But there
Speaker 2: was like five thousand bands like for people like gathering Speaker 2: like it's coming back around. So then I was like, well,
Speaker 2: what else is coming back around? Like okay, so vans
Speaker 2: are coming believe.
Speaker 1: It or not.
Speaker 2: Bas offs are coming back around, Like I thought a Speaker 2: lot of that died out, But people are building mini Speaker 2: trucks again with dancing beds and all kinds of crazy Speaker 2: stuff like they used to have in the eighties. And
Speaker 2: people are looking for the old mini trucks. So if
Speaker 2: you had one and you've been sitting on it for Speaker 2: a long time, it's gotten dust on it. People are
Speaker 2: finding them and then restoring them, and they're showing the Speaker 2: this is what it looked like in like nineteen eighty something.
Speaker 2: Here's how I found it, and now we're going to Speaker 2: restore it and do it. And if I remember correctly
Speaker 2: Fast and Loud did one like ten years ago. They
Speaker 2: found one of the ones that was like one of Speaker 2: the magazine trucks and they went through and redid it.
Speaker 2: But it's coming back around. So it makes me think
Speaker 2: that that's the reason why is if they were talking Speaker 2: about they're digging up a lot of the old car Speaker 2: names and trying to bring some of these old cars treasures.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the one they know that they are going Speaker 3: to sell. You know, that's kind of like, I think,
Speaker 3: a big problem. You know, they've come up with a
Speaker 3: car design that doesn't really set well with the community, Speaker 3: and then they have to you know, reworking. I get it,
Speaker 3: like easy to go back to the roots.
Speaker 2: I think that it's okay. So you were I were
Speaker 2: talking on the commercial breaks, so talk about bring back Speaker 2: with the Silvia, right yep. So that's that's a big
Speaker 2: push for.
Speaker 3: As a rumor. It's not guaranteed and stuff, but the
Speaker 3: CEO did say that, you know, he's all up for Speaker 3: it if they do decide to kind of bring it back.
Speaker 2: And then I talked about I saw where they were Speaker 2: supposed to be bringing back the Selica, and I think Speaker 2: there's gonna be a big push for the Selica, and Speaker 2: I think that was supposed to be released in twenty Speaker 2: twenty five. I think camera looked it up and there's
Speaker 2: no confirmed day for it, but you showed.
Speaker 4: It one of the car shows or something that they Speaker 4: want to I think it's called the twenty only five Speaker 4: Tokyo Show or something like that, the Tokyo Auto Show Speaker 4: or show it there. Yeah, because it it. I mean
Speaker 4: they you got to remember they came out with a team, Speaker 4: a Toyota racing team, so f y I think.
Speaker 2: They're going to Selica was the very first vehicle I Speaker 2: ever drifted in. Ever.
Speaker 3: I've never been a fan.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, when I was younger, we used they were Speaker 2: always build neighborhoods out by us. So there was all
Speaker 2: these neighborhoods under construction. What we would do is we
Speaker 2: would go and move the cones around and we would Speaker 2: block off so nobody could get in. We go inside
Speaker 2: of the neighborhood while I was being built, almost like Speaker 2: close to the scene of Fast and Furious, Fast and Speaker 2: Furious where they're doing like in at beginning thing house Speaker 2: neighborhoods like that, right, a building, and then we would Speaker 2: turn them into racetracks and we would play. I mean
Speaker 2: we'd get like five or six cars. We'd race each
Speaker 2: other to the neighborhood and suff like that and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I mean, see'm I'm not saying it's a good Speaker 2: idea and I'm not condoning it now, But sidewalks were Speaker 2: gained back then.
Speaker 4: I mean just my fast pass that I got to Speaker 4: live was the warehouse moment. You know where everybody drift putting.
Speaker 2: Tires on your Z car right, Yeah, I don't know Speaker 2: what happened to my tires down they just keep on Speaker 2: wearing out. Yeah, because he was down there drifting in
Speaker 2: the Warehouse district, That's what I had hied the tires.
Speaker 2: But no, my.
Speaker 4: Buddy had a sel A coup that he was a Speaker 4: fun car.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, the real drive Celica. Not that
Speaker 2: it was super fastback then or anything like that, but Speaker 2: it that car would drift and if the payment was Speaker 2: just a little bit wet, it really would slide around.
Speaker 2: I remember my buddy brought out at Fiero another car Speaker 2: that I mean, I'm talking about cars at my time, guys.
Speaker 2: You guys are oh Fiero. Trust me. There was a
Speaker 2: lot of running around when I was a kid, My Speaker 2: buddy brought out a Fierro and he ended up sliding Speaker 2: and hitting the sidewalk and not the rear rear of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't his car, believe it or not. It
Speaker 2: was his manager's car of the place he worked, and Speaker 2: he borrowed it fortunately destroyed and destroyed the rear end Speaker 2: of the car. Yeah. So we were rough. I mean,
Speaker 2: we were really rough on cars. But that was like
Speaker 2: something fun for us to do. I now, then it
Speaker 2: was even got kind of crazier. Like I said, don't
Speaker 2: condone it, because then people start moving in the neighborhood Speaker 2: and we're still trying to use that neighborhood. So there
Speaker 2: was like maybe two or three houses that have been bought.
Speaker 2: People are moving in. We're still trying to play race
Speaker 2: car in that neighborhood. So yeah, I can remember, this
Speaker 2: is bad. I can remember. Uh, front yards were game.
Speaker 2: We went from sidewalks and being front yards like you Speaker 2: to go into a corner. Yeah, anything, it was a
Speaker 2: game at that point. I'm not I'm just saying it was.
Speaker 2: It was a closed off neighborhood. They'd already leveled the
Speaker 2: front yards and you have to hit Man hit the Speaker 2: right hand corner and you can't fit three wide going Speaker 2: through there unless you cut a little corner. I'm the same,
Speaker 2: but it's funny to me, Like I said, you know Speaker 2: all these different cars that are out there. Things are
Speaker 2: coming back around. Like I'm excited about some of the
Speaker 2: some of the fads come back around. I'm not just
Speaker 2: gonna say I'm gonna jump on the van bad wagon, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think vans are cool that I know.
Speaker 2: They don't agree with me. We were just talking about
Speaker 2: it before we came back. But I liked a cool
Speaker 2: Chevy van that was kind of lowered. It had some
Speaker 2: pool wheels on it. I had a really cool paint job.
Speaker 2: I always thought they were neat. But then Nathaniel, he said, okay,
Speaker 2: so you build it and then you have it, and Speaker 2: then what do you do with it once you have it?
Speaker 2: I'm like, good point. I guess you take it around
Speaker 2: a couple.
Speaker 3: Of you, all your friends the hot Bend, right.
Speaker 2: Well, there are the shagging wagons back then. So I mean,
Speaker 2: but you go for a ride in it, you take Speaker 2: it a couple of car shows, people like what you have, Speaker 2: and then probably had to a little while you're tired Speaker 2: of having it, and you sell it. You just built
Speaker 2: it because you wanted to build it.
Speaker 4: You pick up a couple of seventies show have a Speaker 4: van too.
Speaker 2: He the seventies show did not like that. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about Like my uncle had one in early eighties. Uh,
Speaker 2: And I remember him bring it to the house and Speaker 2: it was, if I remember correct, it was orange and Speaker 2: it had the metallic stripes going in and it was Speaker 2: had the rally wheels on it. It was and it
Speaker 2: was cool.
Speaker 3: For course, it was an orange van.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 2: It was orange.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 2: He had an orange He had orange shag carpety and Speaker 2: it was like like fifty different colors of orange and Speaker 2: the carpeting inside of it. But he had like a
Speaker 2: little mini bar and.
Speaker 3: All, you know, all a little curious like how like Speaker 3: do you really use all that stuff? You know, like
Speaker 3: how how often you actually just go step out and Speaker 3: you're like chill in my van?
Speaker 2: Think about it. So Mac Max in front of ours
Speaker 2: goes a lot of car shows here locally, and his Speaker 2: is a Dodge van. I think, isn't it's purple? Purple?
Speaker 2: People utter van. Now he's got like a bar set
Speaker 2: up and it is this is cool is now. I
Speaker 2: never asked how often he ever used anything, because I Speaker 2: don't think he uses anything. And he adding stuffy is
Speaker 2: a fule Van. I mean he's got it decked out.
Speaker 2: I mean I would have never thought anybody take like Speaker 2: a Dodge caravan.
Speaker 4: It's funny you mentioned him because I literally was just Speaker 4: looking at his bracelet that he gave me the other Speaker 4: day at the Purple one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at a certain point, right, it becomes a display model.
Speaker 3: It does use case scenario.
Speaker 2: That's my biggest problem with building cars. Okay, So over
Speaker 2: the years, I've had some cool cars and and I Speaker 2: put a lot of time and effort into the cars Speaker 2: and made him cool. Like I told you, I had
Speaker 2: one car where I had a whole rock stone dash Speaker 2: inside the car everything, And I took me a while Speaker 2: to do it, but I did. I took the dash
Speaker 2: apart and made the whole dash like it was a Speaker 2: granite rock. And that was something cool to do. In
Speaker 2: the early nineties. It was trendy. Everybody got my car
Speaker 2: and always I had it, and then I had it.
Speaker 2: I didn't where this door panels he had, like granted.
Speaker 3: And then like five years later you're like why did Speaker 3: I do that?
Speaker 2: Actually, like two years later, I was just like, okay, I.
Speaker 5: Had to know.
Speaker 4: He hit his knee on one of the rocks.
Speaker 3: He was like, no, it was sticker. It was sticker.
Speaker 3: Leon wasn't No.
Speaker 2: I actually took it. And this man sounds like he
Speaker 2: took rocks plastered that made the molds into it, and Speaker 2: I'd actually then sprayed it. And they used to be
Speaker 2: able to buy the spray it was like a granite spray, Speaker 2: and then you had to do a lot of stuff Speaker 2: to play with it make it look real. But I
Speaker 2: took all the time.
Speaker 3: I can only imagine the frustration, like when someone like Speaker 3: those rocks and pebbles from your your desk.
Speaker 2: We always wanted to play with it. That was the problem.
Speaker 4: Those crystal makers, you know that you yeah, like one Speaker 4: of those crystal jewel putting like stuff on it and Speaker 4: water like that was that was that was It was okay.
Speaker 2: So you could buy the special spray that you could Speaker 2: spray and it spray things out and make it look Speaker 2: like granite, but you had to like form to make Speaker 2: it look like the rocks like I did. All that
Speaker 2: took the time. I mean I I just bought the
Speaker 2: car I took the whole car apart. I think the
Speaker 2: second day I had it and started doing this to Speaker 2: the car because I wanted something different. And then you know,
Speaker 2: but I had tricked out, like my car was lowered, Speaker 2: it was on set of wheels, and you know, all Speaker 2: kind of stuff. I just wanted to stuff and I
Speaker 2: was heavily into, like I said, base offs and stuff Speaker 2: like that. I had a huge stereo system in it
Speaker 2: and I was all onto that. So I want something
Speaker 2: to stood out. I spent a lot of time doing it.
Speaker 2: But like I said, you're right, after about two years Speaker 2: of having the car, I was just like, okay, it's Speaker 2: not here undoing it. Like I said, you're not undoing it.
Speaker 2: Once you've done it. It's there's no taking it back
Speaker 2: off and going back to it.
Speaker 4: It was like that one car we saw where the Speaker 4: girl made it all grass. Remember that, Yeah, everything, the
Speaker 4: whole dashboard was grass, the.
Speaker 2: Whole outsidide was it was. But you're not going back, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not. You're not going back that way now. Like
Speaker 2: I said, there's certain trends that I get, I like, Speaker 2: and there's certain ones where I go, Okay, like I Speaker 2: don't understand some of the large stickers on people's cars Speaker 2: they used to do. Some people still do it, but
Speaker 2: they kind of like singer bombing. The people used to
Speaker 2: make their car look like a Cheeto box, and then Speaker 2: maybe used to make their car look like all these Speaker 2: different things. I'd never really understood that trend. It didn't
Speaker 2: last very long. There's still a couple out there running around,
Speaker 2: but I never understood that. I was just like, why
Speaker 2: do I want to walk run around with my car Speaker 2: looking like a fruit loop box. I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: But it worked for people.
Speaker 3: People like the Lightning mcqueens. Some people do like Lightning
Speaker 3: Queen style.
Speaker 2: Something different though. I mean, I've seen that guy's car,
Speaker 2: and you know he got in trouble. He had to
Speaker 2: change it, ye the time, change it up, so but Speaker 2: he still has it. There's some I just there's some
Speaker 2: certain things he had a change. Anyway, Guys, if you
Speaker 2: guys just have a weird trend that I don't know about, Speaker 2: and I haven't seen somebody some pitchers of it share Speaker 2: with us, I'd love to see it. I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be an interesting topic that's gonna go on forever.
Speaker 2: Not all it's all gonna agree with it all times.
Speaker 2: I gotta go ahead and get out of here. You guys,
Speaker 2: enjoy your Saturday. Somebody's right around the corner. Make sure
Speaker 2: you unplug, spend some time with your kids like the barbecue, Speaker 2: play board game with him the lovey for it. We're
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