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Speed Trap Chronicles
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A lively discussion on car culture kicks off with a recap of an eight-car pile-up involving muscle cars in Georgia, leading to insights on insurance coverage for modified vehicles. The hosts delve into the complexities of speeding tickets, insurance implications, and the challenges of insuring high-value cars. They also touch on the evolving landscape of electric vehicle taxes and the ongoing debate about speed limits and enforcement in neighborhoods. The episode wraps up with a call to enjoy the weekend and participate in upcoming car shows.
Topics:
car shows
insurance coverage
speeding tickets
electric vehicle taxes
neighborhood speed limits
muscle cars
car modifications
accident discussions
high-risk insurance
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Hey it is Saturday already. Man, this week has flown by.
I mean it has been quick quick, I tell every buddy. It seems
like just as soon as we get like towards the end of May and the summer comes, man in the days just like click by. But the good
thing is is as the week clicks by, quicker and quicker means you get to the weekend, and there's what all kinds of car shows go to.
So I'm excited, I said. If you guys have not heard us say,
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July twentieth is the date so far for that, as long as the day doesn't change out of lansdown Common here in Virginia Beach. If you guys
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We will be out there and it's gonna be a great time. And like
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good, so far, so good, living L I V I N.
So I'm going to jump right into the show this week if you guys, do you guys get a chance to watch any of the news or anything this week? And I in pop through into the stories that came through, no
little a little bit. So did you see the eight car pile up in
Georgia with all the hot rods? Oh? I did I want muscle cars?
I guess yeah, I did not see it, So I guess they are headed to a car show and there's I think there's a Mustang in there, a couple of charges. I think there's a challenge, nice platinum colored
wrap. I saw the red Challenger, I think to orange Challenge or whatever.
So so they're head in and car guys do sometimes to get a little squirrely playing around, and I can't really figure out what happened. Even watching
the video, I still can't figure out how it happened. I watched it
happen. There's a video of it. I saw the other like perspective of
it, okay, but it looked like some they were like coming to a stop, and one of the white I think it was a camaro or something didn't break in time and just slammed right into everybody. I think I watched.
I thought the challenge, if you guys go watch the video, is pretty I mean the video you can see quite a bit. And there's two's.
I've seen two different videos, and I don't if they're filmed about how they're filmed, or if they're once front film in the car or you know how people have cameras on the cars nowadays. But uh, I thought the
challenger stops in time and then also I see him get folded up from something behind. I never saw what hit him. But I mean, like it's
they're all destroyed, guys. I mean, they're not give out the personal.
I don't think any of them drove away the last person that hit like because you know, the last person that hits. Yeah, I guess for
all of them. I didn't think of an insure currant though, I mean
that has How does that work? Because if your insurance doesn't have enough to
pay out, then who covers? Okay, So we've covered this before.
We talked about that just because you have car insurance doesn't mean that you're covered, if that makes sense. So if you have like a three hundred thousand
dollars policy and that okay, and I'm not insurance guys, I can't tell you exactly how that breaks out. I have a you have like what three
hundred, three hundred and one hundred whatever. It's like comprehensive and bodily injury
I think is what it is. Injury, personal liability, and I think
property damage. So the property damage side of it is if you only have
three hundred thousand dollars coverage on property damage, right, And I broke this down kind of a little bit before and some of the other shows way back, if you guys didn't, and some people a lot of people know this, but some people are just oblivious to the fact. If you do five
hundred thousand dollars worth of damage and you're only covered for three. Guess what,
there's a good chance you could be on the hook for everything else if people claim, you know, bottom the injury and three hundred thousand dollars a day image three hundred thousand dollars out in bodily injury. You've tapped the policy
out, the policy safe and everything. And it looked like everybody was okay
in the accident. But imagine like being the friend and you have to be
like, I'm sorry, I watched it. That's what I was thinking too.
I was just like, I was like, and I saw people deathening each other up. I was like, how can you chilling car? Is
just surely how can you be dapping people up? Just after the car?
They probably covered wonder insurance, probably maybe because the comments said, well, actually, as the comments said, the modifications aren't really covered unless you know you've you've had your I'm talking about the monitor to know that you have to have your insurance coming like right, right, right? But do you think
you think I know a lot of people haven't, so I know what's talking about. So there's a lot of us who have muscle cars who don't have
it fully insured for all the modifications, and some people don't because they don't want the insurance to go up. But I mean, all right, so
for instance, for us, like obviously, when the trans Aam goes out on the road, it's gonna be insured the way it's supposed to because all the modification is done to the car and the value car. So if you
take a clean trans am right now, like we have, I'm seeing them right this second, go for in the sixty to seventy thousand dollars for a clean one. We're a little mile car. It's clean, but now we
have all these modifications we've done to it, which is another the bill keeps on growing. But I'm gonna say, you know, we're keep fifty sixty
thousand dollars now into more modifications to the car. And everybody goes, oh,
I can't believe you're putting that much money in that car. It's for
me, it's not for you, mister me. I love the car.
I've always loved that body style car. This is my grandpa's car on top
of that, so that has a whole lot more meaning to me. So
yeah, you could tell me I need to put two hundred thousand dollars in that car, and I would be like, well, okay, you know what I mean, because it's not about the value of the car to me, it's the value. It's about just what the car is for me.
And people get that way with the cars. That's the reason why when you
soup up a muscle car and you put time, money and all that kind of stuff and it went on the on the cell side, you hardly ever get that money back. You get like fifty cents on the dollar. That's
just what happens a lot of times unfortunately. Why I'm thinking, like,
with all these cars that were just destroyed, think about how accounted eight total?
Was there eight cars total? Yep? Eight? Interesting, not to
count again, it's eight cars total. People sent me, well there's eight
in the video, but now all of them are. I don't think there's
eight cars involved. And I had a lot of listeners send me information on
this, so I was reading it and uh, like the five different articles that I got and then two different videos, it was eight cars totally involved, is what it is. So and I don't know to what extent if
all eight are total, they're just traveling too close to each other. Well,
yeah, obviously they're there. I mean, I mean, I watched
the video. Guys, it's pretty crazy. But this isn't like the first
time that I have seen like crazy ziness in cars. Lord, I mean
we've all seen it, you know, when you leave a car meet or whatever like that. We always try to say, don't mess around on the
road. Accidents happen. Sometimes you can't control who's doing what next to you.
This video one percent falls into all that. But I mean, accident's
going to happen. The thing about it is one hundred percent. I learned
something that I didn't know this week that I had no idea. Do you
know that you can get high risk car insurance even if you're not a high risk driver, you can get high risks, like if you drive a car of a certain nature and it's more prone to possibly have an accident or something like that. There's policies for that. I believe it. I did.
I didn't. I didn't know. There was no no, No, you
didn't know. You're not like you didn't know. You can bet on anything,
you can bet any You know you didn't bet on anything. I didn't
know that that existed, though you knew that existed. No, I mean
I didn't really know. But but I just had's like I can't, okay,
So like I I didn't know that if I'm driving a car of higher value and it's more risked, like a brighter car something, no, no, no more. I think it's geared towards like muscle cars and stuff like
that, that you can opt to buy something that would cover you just in case something happened. And everybody's like, well, let's just classic car insurance.
I'm not talking about that. I was informed that there is a add
on you can do your policy for something, and I don't know what it's called. So anybody's insurance, please, somebody's not. It's not like one
of those value things, right, where like you you're like a higher value policy because your car is worth so much. You're talking about something you like,
you've an add on the policy, which is if you know that your car is more likely to be damaged or something like that, and you want to make sure you're feel like you can do something. And I don't know
how like that, somebody was trying to explain it to me, and I was trying to follow along how this works. I didn't. I was like,
I didn't know that existed. I believe that something like that would exist
because like we know, okay, classic car insurance, right, So you go and they come out and take a look at your car, and they looked at any modifications you've done, and they look at anythod okay, so and that doesn't because if the you know, when he had his Civic, I got, yes, that's right, I said, Civic. He had
a fast and furious Civic, which was cool car. Cool, it was
cool. But all the modifications he had done to his car, we got
a bunch of those covered. After the fact that we went put the car
together. Like so, I had a custom paint job on it, and
then the first time around they wanted to give me a hard time about the custom paint jobs. Second time around, I made sure that the custom paint
job and all that kind of stuff was covered on the car so the car had the value. And then he had you know, like I said,
suspension on it. Any of you guys have suspension, you have wheels,
all that kind of stuff. If you wanted to be covered, you need
to make sure. I told you guys about a friend of mine many many
years ago, had a jacked up jeep and he had about forty thousand dollars with modifications in his jeep. He got an accent, the jeep gets totaled.
Well, they wanted to give him the value of the jeep. He's
like, wait a minute, I got like ten thousand dollars, wheels and tires on it. You know, he had, you know, all kinds
of He's like, I got lights on this thing. I got a winch
on this thing, and all the different stuff that he had, And they didn't want to get any money for it because they're like, well, you know, you got to prove it. He's like, well, not a
problem. I bought every single thing on my credit card. Every know.
So with Classic insurance, Like so, I was looking that up. You
can't get Classic insurance unless the vehicles twenty five years of age. You also
have to get a security device installed in your vehicle. Really yep insurance insurance,
most classic car insurances. I was looking it up. I wanted someone
in the car to be able to track I didn't have alarm. Well I
guess, well, I mean you did have an alarm, but it was a special alarm all the time, right, A little different, I say, yeah, but I don't know. There's so many things when it comes
to insuring cars of high value and muscle cars like that, that I am quickly kind of becoming a little bit more aware of that. I knew there
was certain things, but some of the things up people. You guys give
me a lot of useful information. You guys send me stuff, and I
get in conversations with you guys, and you guys, you know, fill me in some of the forums and stuff, and then I'm like, I didn't know. I'll tell everybody I don't know everything. I mean, it's
impossible to know everything. So I'm surprised. I just thought that that was
weird to have an add on. I got some batch for you. Oh
yeah, got some bad names, bad news for this one. You got
to have a clean record for the last five to ten years. Man,
you were soak. Hey, he's giving me a hard time because I re
memory if I told you guys, I got pulled over and couldn't beat the ticket that I didn't deserve after over twenty five years and not having a ticket.
So so you'll be high risk. No, I'll be high risk.
I want to tell you that right now. There's the car's getting the shirt.
I mean, I don't I'm not habitual speed. I'm not going to
say. I don't speak I I've told you guys before. I mean,
obviously I'm not going fifty five miles an hour and fifty five, but I'm out there just tearing up the streets either. That Like, that's what still
burns me up about that ticket, because I just the car was driving.
Guys. Some say a undred times car was driving. I wasn't driving.
The car was obeying the speed on and the car says it was obeying the speed lint. I'm not over it. Unfortunate we're gonna be in a year.
I'm still not over it yet, Jenson. Everybody says the same thing
for all my speeding tickets. I wasn't speeding either. I hate you.
I just it's it's funny. So as I got in the conversation we were
talking about, like I said, this pile up's been everybody's been talking about it this week, and I like that tons of people, hey, you see it, you see I'm like, yeah, yeah, I got it.
I got a bunch of tons of people send me articles I read it crazy pile up, hey, cars damage whatever, you know what I mean.
It's like you only have the covers so much at a time, so many times. But then somebody else send me another article. And we've talked
about like like crazy, like speeding tickets, right right, like the speeds and stuff like that. There's an article out this week and it has some
of the top speeds and states recorded I guess for this last past year or whatever, and it's like it's mind blowing, like okay, so I'll start off the I know, I got to take a courcial break about straw off By. There has been a rumor forever about like the fastest speeding ticket in
the country was like one forty nine or something like or excuse me, two forty nine, two hundred and forty nine miles an hour, like in a fifty five, right, and they caught them, right, So he never proven. It's never been proven, and people disliked those one of those stories
you hear and it's never been proven, that is. But the story has
been out there for a while, right, These ones that are in this article are real, and even I was just like I told you guys in my youth, I got some tickets and I was going fast in some people's mind speed. Here's the thing. So here's the two things. I think
that I could take quick cortial breaks. You guys gonna held on, But
I learned a couple of things that were just mind boggling to me out of reading this article and then going to do some research. So if you guys
hang on for two seconds, let me take quick commercial break. When we
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio, your automotive specialist. Now back
to your host Dave Polach. Hey, guys, welcome back. So I
told you guys that before I went to commercial break, I had some we were there was an article that was out and it was talking about speeding violations.
And so it's kind of funny because you know, we I get this stuff sent to us all the time and then we talk about it here and there. But some of these were like crazy speed. First of all,
one of them comes out of our close to our area. It's Norfolk,
which is, you know what, a couple of cities over from us.
But he was one thirty one and a fifty five one hundred and thirty one fifty five in Norfolk. Yeah, I mean it's pretty impressive. Nighty miles
above the speed limit. Eighty miles. It doable, maybe ten maybe if
you're trying to rush somewhere, but eighty miles an hour. So I've told
you guys, and I don't there's I don't talk about. There's certain things
we talk about on the show that have to do with me. There's certain
things we don't. I got a lot of speeding tickets at a young age,
and I got that one beat by a lot. And that's not bragging
because it's not it's not something to brag about because you should never speed, like right, I mean, I shouldn't have been I was being stupid in a car. I mean, I just just it is what it is.
I mean, but I all my tickets at a young age were all over.
I'll just be honest and say we're all over one hundred miles an hour all the what the first three I got was a lot more open roads back then, too, right, you weren't like really like super crowded. I
got one like one thirty six twenty five was a residential or that is more twenty five because it was like a back zone. But it was the school.
It was at night. School was closed, so before you judged me,
there was nobody out. It was in the middle of the night.
Funny everybody got me regardless, I mean, like you got me, it would be funny. You were like, and I think, I don't know
if I told the story once before, but I thought he would stop, he would keep going after the car the other car ran, and then he didn't. He stopped me in the other car because you were closer, right,
I mean usually they chase, they chase, say chased as all those things. Right, do you back up and you you you know, you
either take it, you like hopefully he goes for another guy, or are you the first one that gets caught. So I keep in mind, I
was very young, so I'm not like I said, I'm not condona it's not another one that I got was, I know, I can't, I know, I was, well, well, I want to say it was like one twenty five or something like that, and and I was gonna go to jail for that one as well. By the way, I didn't go
to jail on any of these and I kept my driver's license to which would never happen nowadays, I think, right, I mean, you just get lucky. Okay. So with that being said, hold on before I get
into some of these other speeds, right, Uh, there's one that is okay. So this one flort floored me. And this is where the conversation
came in that we just had. There was a one eighty two and a
fifty five. Okay, in Illinois, it's pretty fast, and eighty two
miles an hour is just lightning fast on the street. Right. But here's
the I didn't tell you I was here. Here's the thing that floored me.
Right, do you what do you think his punishment was just just just just take a guess. What do you think the service? I'm always thinking
like the harshest, but he probably got something like slap on the wrist.
This what never happened for me or you guys are school like, no, it's like a three hundred and seventy five dollars fine. And he had and
he was ordered to have like higher car insurance. That's it. That's where
I got into the what's higher car insurance? That's how the conversation came about
that. That is? That is it? Do you know it in Virginia?
Virginia? Would you can't say it on the state, They would pick
the jail up dig could really move it wherever you are and just puts you in it forever. Like okay, So first off, you all don't know
if like I said, the people is high from all over the place, all over the country, over the world. They listen to this show.
We get listeners that tag in and give me stuff from some of the forest places. It's just it's I told you, guys, humblings could be that
so many people and so many places listeners show in Virginia speeding okay instantly is reckless driving at what is it? Ten over twenty? But it's fifteen okay,
fifteen over and it's reckless reckless driving. Look it up. Make sure
so reckless driving and reckless driving here carries like the same punishments if he was a d ui. I mean, like, it's literally that what was this
twenty over? Because I'd be I'd be messed up. He's like, hold
on, don't know, I'd be messed up. But like I said,
I mean like in other states, it's not like you one hundred and eighty two miles an hour. Guys in a fifty five all day long. You
take a three hundred chickens margin, sir, our judge. Judges have a
famous quote, They're like, we're going to make an example out of you.
You've already made an example out of the last ten people. He's like
out here, He's like, listen, do you make examples out of the last ten guys were before me? I got to be the example too.
But I know I'm not kidding any one. I know I'm not the only
one that when we go to court, stands in front of those TVs to see how far we are down the list for about one or two. Here's
here. Here's the mad part about that, right, The worst part about
it is when you have a last name that falls right in about the middle of the alphabet, you're just done. Yeah, he's there's so many a's
there's so many bees when you get down to us. I mean, like
he's just hurt it all. He don't want to hear it anymore. He's
just trying to get through. I'm like, can I be first on the
document? Please? The time? And then you you're like, it's the
guy right before you, right before. He always wants to make him mad,
always wants to make a mad, and like the judge starts fighting, and like you know, when he lets out of breath, you're like, no, right, and you know you're realize you're like the next or like the next, like the third next person to go up, like yeah, I had to take the I had to take them both to court when they were younger. So we went to court and they they were in trouble and
the guy that came in, like was it two guys before you that they had the They had a mask on him like a net on for spinning, and he was cuffed to like this chair and they had them all like he was. He was all tied down to a chair, and I'm like,
I turned a literally to them. I went, yeah, we're not getting
out of this one. There's there's no way. It's my court case that
I went by myself. When I was I was don't so I went all
by myself. I'm like, man, all right, I gotta go take
care of this. I knew I was going to get can't say that word,
but that stuff, you know when I know they skipped over my name, and then another I was like another judge walked in and said pause, called my name, only my name, and then I was escorted with an officer to another room where it was just me and four officers. You're like,
this coming hard. He's got out of that one. He walks in
and he's like, hmm, you say they buy me dinner. First,
I took the stairs. It was like, never taken the stairs ever since
I've been court. Yeah, we've taken those a couple of times. I
remember you. I knowed as soon as you said that. I remember remember
the little bit staircase you gotta go up? Yeah? Yeah, it's look
guys, like I said, I I was never the always the perfect person a young age in a car. So I'm not judging by any means.
I'm just saying some of these numbers that are here are really really impressive.
I don't mean like impressive that way. I mean just like, so,
let me ask you. Let me ask you real quick. Number one state,
What do you guys think is the number one state for tickets for tickets for speeding takes? Georgia? Georgia? What do you think it is?
Arizona? Mean, no, it is actually going to be North Dakota.
Really, yep, there's nothing. No. Seven percentage of the drivers that
drive in North Dakota, it's eight point seven percent. I don't mean to
call Georgia. I've just seen a lot of these like high speed crazy stories
are starting to really come out of Atlanta, Georgia area. So I'm not
trying to put you guys on blast. I'm just saying, ain't looking good.
Guys. Where do you say Virginia's falls out number six six? At
least top ten, top ten? I mean, of course, I just
said one out of ten, say seven, we're eighth, eight eight, six point six percent of our drivers have had a speed. I'm not gonna
lie to but you can see that just driving on the roads that Virginians are very aggressive drivers. Virginians, Yeah, Virginians, Virginia Universe. Actually time
I love seeing the reports, the news reports where it's like Virginia was top rinked. I'm like, obviously, y'all and drove the top man. He's
like, no, that's wrong, completely wrong. I know you're wrong.
All right, top speed out of the article and stuff, what do you think it was? And where where do you think it was? And he
guesses I'm bad at two one hundred and five miles an hour and is sixty five two hundred and five miles an hour? Wyoming? Huh Wyoming? No
in Minnesota. I just want to really, he's gonna be over. We're
like, how they get caught that? They're all cost they all got to
the tickets were about it. It's a ticket No, no, we're talking
about there's people videotape about it. We know there has to be faster tickets
or faster to ticket you anything. But you hear the myss the story do
you cannonball run? So how do you faster? You think that one that
the myths story that that we're talk about comes from supposedly out of a cannonball run race. So yeah, I don't know like I would do it.
But Vermont, I don't gotten Vermont. You guys are lacking a little bit.
Ain't gonna lie you guys, is one twelve and uh sixty five, here's the till. Anything over one hundred those eight in a seventy in North
Carolina, all right, one fifty five and a sixty five in Georgia, one thirty nine and a sixty five in California. I would thought California would
have been way up there, like the speeds would have been super crazy, you know, I mean, but what maybe maybe nobody just just reported.
Again, I'm just saying I would, I would. I'm not picking on
California. I'm just saying there's there's that run between California and Nevada to Vegas,
and I mean I have seen cars blistering down that one. Uh.
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Maine, So Maine way up there, we'll know where I mean. And
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your automotive specialist. Now back to your host, Dave Polach. Hey,
guys, welcome back. All right, So I want to jump into
this one because this one's a little strange. If you guys been watching the
news this week, there is. It's funny how this comes run. It
just amazes me. So come turn, come take over. I mean that
one makes sense, comes around, goes around. Let's let me back up
before I jump into it. All right, So I have talked about forever.
I hate tolls. I don't like tolls. I don't like anything where
I'm continuously having to pay for roads that we've already paid for that taxes already take care of. If you feel differently, you guys got my email,
Tell me how you explain to me and make it make sense for me, because I just think tolls were invented to pay for the project that's already being done in advance and then once the it's paid for, the tolls are supposed to be lifted and go away because the project's been paid for, which never happens by the way. Uh, now ever's gonna cost paid for once you're
just recouping recoupering. Yeah, right, So it's just it's one of those
things. Now people are gonna correct me because in our area many years ago,
they've removed some of the tolls. We had them going through We didn't
have any tolls going through the tunnel and if you guys remember you said to stop at the gates and all that kind of stuff, and then we had the tolls to go to Virginia Beach was right there. I am really just
passed just past Independence or rose Mount. However, there was tolls all the
way across, so they removed those. So I'll say they remove those.
So because people always want to correct me on there tolls to the ocean front as well. Yeah, there was still told the tolls to go to the
oce your front. So uh, when I lived in Illinois, you guys
know, if you're Illinois, the Illinois listeners, you know what I'm talking about. Guys that have never been there. Uh, there's you got to
pay a toll to get on and off the freeway. You pay tolls to
go plays. That's just the way it is. If you're in Jersey area
and Upstare in New York, you pay all kinds of tolls there. I
think when we went up across US thirty six dollars to go there and come back, just in the tolls on the last trip we took. So you
paid to go over bridges. Now we pay to go through tunnels. I
have a huge issue with it. Now. The cave got to that that
I have. The issue is is for us, it's not even controlled by
our state or our Highway Department or anything. They have literally sourced outsources to
other companies here for us. So it's more worth an even bigger thorn in
my side for the fact that it's a double edge. So yet right,
So here's where it gets funny. If you guys go back fifteen years,
man, maybe a little bit longer twenty years, there was like to have an electric car was like everybody's like, oh, get electric car, and you get to ride these special lanes with electric cars, everything special, everything with special special special, you know what I mean to have it now?
But what comes around. It coused you money to have an electric car like
they're because they're trying to find a way to tax you to death on have an electric car rather you buy it driving on the road. If you guys
didn't pay attention, this week, California has put a bill together where they want to charge thirty cents a mile thirty cents a mile to drive your car.
Why because they've pushed electric cars on everybody so heavily in California and they're doing another states, but California sticks out as one of the biggest ones.
And now they have tons of electric cars and they're losing all that money on taxes for gasoline, and they got to find a way to make up that money. And the only way to do it is to tax you on your
electric car that they pushed you to go get for all these savings. It
is the biggest scam on earth. I mean, like, oh, it
just it. You can't tell. It makes my skin crawl. It just
does. Did you know fourteen states? Fourteen states? Out of I know
there's more than thirty, but out of the thirty that they looked at, fourteen states charge a plug in. He was gonna say out of thirty states.
I'm like, I was, where are you going with this? Out
of there's fifty people try to tell you they're fifty two. Oh my gosh,
they did an article on thirty and okay, fourteen of them. They
all have a plugin fee that you have to pay a yearly plug in fish for five years. Your fee to death fifty two hundred and fifty three dollars.
It became. It's bad. It's bad. It's become a situation where
convenience it doesn't play a part anymore. So that idea sell you on the
convenience, and then they slowly put back the fees out right, I mean they did away with convenience of express lanes too, that is it. Okay,
So if you got to if you're in Virginia, we now have these pay express lanes. You guys got them in your state. I got to
pay to travel down the same road that a year ago I didn't have to pay the same lane. It's just a leg put up little dividers, and
now they want you to pay to go down. And the thing about this,
that's not ran by Virginia either, it's ran by a secondary company.
That money you got my taxes. My taxes pay for all that. I
should not continue. You have to pay all these fees. I shouldn't have
to pay to go through a tunnel that's been paid for forever. I should.
I mean, like everybody goes, oh woays, we had to pay it to it's not right for you either. When you buy the vehicle,
then you got a property tax, then you got tax, now you got gas tax. I'm running out of singers here, y'all. Come on,
when does this stop? Well? I think it makes it worse, you
know, because it's you know, it's owned by third party. Two right,
you're not even paying your state, you're paying you know, someone's making a profit for you going through that tunnel. So it's not you know,
it's not going to stop as long as they're making a profit. That's the
that's the biggest problem. Though. You you've already got my money, like,
so that's no. That does things a lot different, like the gambling
tax and stuff. Like you guys are live in Vegas, you know the
gambling and they all that money goes towards schools and different things and stuff like that. And I don't know how they di buy it up anymore. I
know, a lot of it was big into schools, which I just thought was even when I was in school, I just thought that that was really wise, and we had really nice schools. I mean, our schools were
really really nice because all that gambling that you guys do when you go on vacation paid for all that. Now I think they've broken it up. I
think some of it ghost roads stuff like that, but that's a little different.
Like if you want to pay for it that way, I'm okay with that. Like if you want to put some casinos in and have them pay
for roads, by all means, do it more than if you want to put some more in and have them take care of like the schools. I'm
all for that too, because teachers don't get paid enough and then not for what they had to put up with, that's for sure. But I have
a problem with taking my money and making me continue to pay all these different fees. Like we used to have the from you guys don't remember, but
people listening that are my age and older, we used to have I think I told you guys, we had a city sticker here, so you used to have to have your inspection sticker and you had used to have to pay for a city sticker, and you couldn't get the same inspection sticker without having the city sticker. So it was a scam. And the city stick was
based on they looked to see if you pay your taxes, and if you hadn't paid your taxes yet, they take the money from you. So it
was just a it was a huge scam. So they did away with it,
but they just took the money and moved it onto your license plates basically, I mean so just well because unfortunately it was like when you have like programs like that, that money's already called for for something else, so they got to implement something else to pay for this other thing. Okay, but
when I get my license plate for my car and I pay the tax in my car, all that stuff should go to roads and all that that's what that's that's what that should go to. I shouldn't have to pay the lane.
The lane I'm talking about used to be free up until like a couple of months ago. Now you have to pay your ride in that same lane
just because traffic is getting like thicker. Fix the roads, pre plan.
The biggest problem is our infrastructure is we are twenty years behind in our infrastructure all the time. Yeah, it's just we never plan enough roads and all
that kind of stuff. We continue to build, we bring more people in
because they don't do everything and we don't plan enough ahead of time. It's
almost like, so I'm not a computer guy, but I understand, like when you build code and computer you have to prethink way in advance and how much room you're gonna need to go coding. Right, it's the same,
it's the same price it out before you. It's like we don't It's like
we're just gonna throw a road here, put some houses downside it. Oh,
as long as it works. By the way, we didn't want those
houses there, so now let's buy those houses back so we can span the road. I mean, it's like it's just three spins where you gotta get
off on another exit. Those express lanes. Is that you pay a fee
for segments. I'm not sure how long this segment is. I'm guessing it's
probably like five miles or something like that. Man, I find it interesting
that you get to pay for each it's like three dollars and something. It's
like thirty eight cents. You know, it's changed. Have to look after
segment day, like to take the express lane like where they were at coming out of I don't know if they're coming out of it. That's hard something
like that. And like it was like three dollars or something to use the
express lane. I was just like, what like them all the way over
to to find out hard? I was three dollars to get home quicker?
It just made no sense to me. Right, So the speed limit is
up by five miles per hour to now they're talking about reducing the speed hum Virginia. Hear about that. No, I did they want to reduce the
speed limits. There's so many people that just go above it because it's you
know, it's just slow there. Now they talk about that just somebody,
it's kind of correct. I thought I saw something that government, governor Youngkin
just pass something that gives each city or something like that. Now they can
reduce their speed them if they want without having to like go through like the federal program or something like that. I probably don't have all the pieces in
the right order, but somebody's gonna correct me. But it's something along that
line. I was just like, we need to be like increasing speedlands and
some of our freeways not reducing them because seventy five miles an hour, Like, like, there's certain states, guys that you go to if you've been through seventy five miles an hour? Is the speed limit on the freeways for
long distance? Imagine a question, right, do you think speed limits need
to change or do you think the buffer between speed limits need to change?
I think explaining that, you know how like you know, you know how like kind of like the saying is is like, all right, you know you can kind of go five of nothing. It's not legal and something they
can say and that's what they say. So I don't say, okay,
so they say I think there's more to seventy five. Everybody's gonna do eighty
five ninety, right, mean, so it shouldn't the buffer be I think you should raise a speed limit and then the penalties for going over are different.
That's how you fix that. I do think that I knew that the
easiest way to fix it. I think our technology has changed so much that
one we can break faster, our cars now can respond before. That's our
speed limits were set for the safety reason. So I really do feel like
that we could increase the speeds just a little bit more and still have this possibility. You know, you raise it. You know they're still going to
go above the speeling they are. But as Pop's also just said, if
you change like the fine, if you change like what happens. Here's what
I'm saying. That's what I want to say to you. I don't want
to say change the fine stuff like that. I'm not talking about destroying somebody's
life because that's what people think, like, no, no, not like that. Just make it really expensive, you know. I mean you don't
have to like, oh, I just spend your live's license for ten years and blah blah blah blah. But that's what they're insert dumb rule here.
That's what they're about now though. Just make it really expensive so they do
something stupid. It costs a lot of money. Like this. What if
the fine was forget forget like a fee, right, I mean, yeah, you're gonna have to pay a small fee. But if I impounded your
car for three weeks yours because people still have to get around, it will hold on whole time out. I gotta take a commercial break. We're gonna
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host, Dave Polach. Hey, guys, welcome back. Hey, So,
before we went to commercial break, Cameron was kind of imposing the idea.
I guess I was saying, we're talking about soap. You know,
they're talking about trying to reduce speed limits and people say they should be increased.
But if they increase, then are will go even faster. So how
do you fix that? Like I said, my idea was obviously, just
impose deeper fines. Like I said, I'm not trying. I don't want
to root anybody's life. I don't want the whole suspension for twenty years,
you know, all the dumb stuff that you I mean, not because they do that, just don't have the money, Okay, but then don't do they don't do the crossing, don't do it. That's why I feel like,
sorry, but but your idea, I mean, have anyone was well, instead of the fine, you know, still make them pay a small fee. But what's what's a small fee? Now? One hundred and fifty?
Wait, no, it's not gonna keep the minimum up to three hundred max. You know, it's not gonna keep that would Man, I'm gonna
lie. Look, I'm a car guy through and through, and I'm not
gonna lie. That's what it is right now though. Okay, but here's
what that huge? You know, right? Rather if you just have a
like a three hundred dollars fine for speed and everybody who's light is like, I'm risking the biscuit. I'm just I'm just telling you. They just start
I mean, okay, but they hear the thing now drag racing time, you know what I mean. That's like just said that's what it is.
Now what if we still kept that, but then added if you get caught speeding reckless driving, it's automatic and pound your car for three weeks if you do California's way. If you get caught drag race and they just take your
car, they put in a crusher and let everybody want no, because we already shot the license. You crushed my car, I'm probably going to your
polace and lighting it on fire. So you're not needing to state. That's
what the state's doing. That's what the state's doing in California. Go look
it up. You cross you vehicles, you get caught racing, they're taking
car racing, but you're not racing even high speeding the same thing it could they all I gotta do is say was racing. They take your car from
you, They literally put in a crusher and they broadcast it live. Why
they crush these cars? People want to live in California. They don't take
anything off the cars either guys and everything. We're on the East coast,
come over here, we like, but we don't have the waves. Man,
there's only so many avenues you can go down. It's either taking your
license, you know, having a harsh punish harsh fines. Well, I
mean there's different because right, like are you talking about You're just talking about money money, I'm talking money wise because they like, I'm sorry, guys, And like I said, this isn't a dump on you know, the system. That's not what I'm talking about here. I just feel like some
of these, some of these fines that are applied with with punishment and a fine, the punishment way outweighs. I think the license is a good way
to go. But like you said, like ruins. But here's the thing,
a restricted license carries for a very long time because then it's your insurance forever. It does not only for that term, for that term five years
five years, No, five years five years. You show a suspend a
driver's license for five years, we spend it for five years. Right,
No, no, no, it shows on your record for five years.
After you suspend it, you insurance for five years and then you're insured, saying that's so said. I'm just talking about like these ones were like you
know, it's it's a and now you're looking at like all this crazy jail time. I don't talk about those who run from the police, so that
that should be judged completely different. I'm just talking like you caught me nineteen
miles an hour of the speedling, Like where when everybody else was doing nineteen miles an hour of the speeling and you caught me doing it, and all of a sudden I got a felony facing reckless driving. Insurance can be bad
for five years. I mean, come on, man, like let's let's
get real. The secondary ticket and like let's let's just let's you're real.
I realized too, Karen brought up to me, is that you know, every ticket, no matter what it is, is still points on your license.
Right, so even for this simplelace you hear it like if you hear insurance people say, and I don't believe they're like, we're not We're not looking at the points, We're looking at the history and stuff like that.
I think that game where I have to call them yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but even even that too, right you uh would you say you were talking about. So I was him, we were sitting the other night,
and I was saying, you know, it doesn't matter no matter what if an officer pulls you over and says you did something that's a that's a point on your DMV record. That that's a point on your DMV record.
No matter if you go to the court and get it dismissed or anything, that's a point on your DMV W record. Well so even if you win,
you still have that point, which is kind of like kind of messed out in some circumstances. So it's like, even if like you can prove
that you didn't do it, you still get that negative, you know, connotation on your red because it hit your record and they wrote a ticket out.
Oh that makes okay. So it was just like that's what I'm trying
to say. I don't think that your life should be ruined because it's like,
look, it's correct me if I'm wrong, right, Okay, how many times have you been on the freeway and you're driving speeding less fifty five miles an hour and everybody's going sixty five seventy miles an hour in our straight that's a felony at that point time, it is that now there's still people.
I mean, there's nine cars around you all doing it, you know what I mean, And somehow you get pulled over, like okay, saying you weren't breaking law because you are. And I'm not saying there shouldn't be
consequence for all I'm saying is it's silly, like when you pulled me over and the car in the far slow lane was getting ready to pass me and you pulled me over, and I'm like, why am I getting pulled over?
And then all of a sudden, now you realize that just for for speeding, you were facing the same charges, if not worse than if I was a DUI. Well, in our state, they can charge you three
different tickets when you're pulled over doing nineteen over, reckless driving, erratic driving, and endangerment to the public or something like that. I don't, I
know, there's stuff that I don't understand it. It is like up being
the you know, tickets, just up adding all that I told you, I got pulled over one time and that guy crawled all over my car.
Now, granted, I let me say, by being an adult, I initiated the first reason to be pulled over It's not like I was just driving along wine in my own business. I deserve to get pulled over. But
we went from getting pulled over to him just crawling all over my car with a fine tooth comb, trying to find anything he could stack tickets on.
And now that well, yeah I didn't have to do that, but it was everything else. It was looking at the suspension. He the guy measured
the tires, how far my tires were sticking out. I've had someone that
measured the height of the car. I've had a heighth measure. But he
had an officer break out before. Okay, yeah, for the Hanna Civic
brought out a stick and the one time designed d and everything. I was
like, if he breaking this out, I see him do the height lioment on jacked up trucks. I've seen that. That's the reason why everybody before
he used to lower their bombers down the round like that. That's what it
was. Yeah, but his exhausted and touched the ground. It just he
couldn't prove he couldn't get under the car. And I don't know if they
changed just so don't quote me on it, but it used to be if you can't look underneath it and prove that it's got to modify exhaust on it because you can't see it, you can't site before it. And if you
don't believe me, that one's stuck in court because the ticket, because the ticket was written. The ticket was written, and the judge went, how
you know it had altered exhaust if the car was so low you couldn't have seen the exhausts and that ticket went away. So and by the way,
it wasn't an altered exhaust. It was a full, nice custom exhaust.
But it was not answered. It wasn't. Let me take it into another
bit real quick, another twist, because I was thinking about this the other night. How would you guys solve speeding in the neighborhoods? See all right,
so that's right, that's right, that's right, right Berry. Okay,
If you guys don't know my opinion on this, I think if you speed through a neighborhood, hey man, whatever happens to you? I mean,
like, because there's kids everywhere and sting like that. And that's where
my attitude, I'm not top neighborhoods completely different. You're trying to go fifty
five and a twenty five through a neighborhood, Like how would you get you whatever happens you as far as I'm sure, probably probably way to solve that problem. And I think we kind of do it to ourselves to some point,
even though you shouldn't be speeding through neighborhoods and stuff obviously because you just know, like there's the Rose kids, right, it's just not the smartest.
You can't stop. There's better places to do it, right, if
you're going to do it like you guys, I used to throw footballs at cars when they drove by. People throw beinging with footballs, and that I
think the easiest way to solve it is that it's just blocking off you know, communities and stuff. So where major roads don't lead into neighborhoods, they
should be blocked off. Like, well, I agree with you, so
we agree with you on this, and I know we're getting little short.
So I want to say this. I've seen roundabouts, right, and I've
thought about this. Why don't we put traffic lights in the neighborhood? But
no, have cameras set up where it. No, it will never work,
it'll never work. Fire to fire, No, it's not fire.
You got fire before you've got your job. You track the speed. If
they're going twenty five, keep the traffic light green. But if they're going
over twenty five, here's here's how I tell you. Here's how you fix
it. Just like Nathaniel was leading to. And I've said this before.
You close off neighborhoods where there's like one in and one out right, exactly like you have to come you going coming in the neighborhood one way, or maybe you make there's a turn on. The neighborhoods are a turn on,
right, You can't cut through the neighborhoods. What happens most people, their
speed are cut thro the neighborhood, right, I mean, and like I said that, as far as I'm concerned, if you speed through a neighborhood like it's kind of like a cold, like a cold as sac per se amaze. I'll give you no why I know, we gotta go. Remember
I told you I had the person that kept on speed and I didn't know what to do. Oh yeah, yeah yeah? Did you call? And
now I didn't. I decided not to. I started the nice guy.
I didn't call in on them. They ended up behind me again the other
day. So I'm driving and I just saw her coming. I knew shoe
and I saw I went, man, that is that same car, and it's like ninety miles an hour. I mean it's it's if I'm if I'm
on the back country road, guys, and I'm going sixty five, almost seventy miles an hour, and you are creeping on me very quickly. I
know how fast you're going out. Let's just put it this way. My
truck was as wide as two lanes all the way out of the country roads.
If you want to go around me, you were going around me on the grass. And what I'm gonna do right through that same section where the
kids are at, especially if you're not slow and you know you're, you know, doing a pretty decent speed limit. I wasn't. I already wasn't
going to speed miles an hour. I think I was one. Just just
ad about sixty five. There's country. We're in the middle of nowhere.
But there is a section I think I told you, guys. We come
through and a bunch of kids get on the school bus in that section.
It runs down to forty five miles an hour in that section. On purpose,
even though it's country area over there too. They put officers with caught
some people. But I needs to say. She was stuck behind me for
ten miles. Why huh, guinea honks. No, No, Once I
moved over enough that she couldn't get around me, she backed off and stayed back there. But she knew because she remember the truck. I know,
I know she remembered the truck from the last incident we had. You can't
miss my truck. Guys, got certain set of wheels on it, and
once you see it, you know it's you know, especially if you're seeing it every couple of days. You can't help. But notice that's the same
truck. I thought about putting at bumper sticker on the back for it to
read. That's directed right to her. I see. And then no,
guys, we got to go ahead and get out of here. Man.
It has been a great Saturday, and joy car shows are coming up.
Sunday is right around the corner. As I tell you, guys all the
time, make sure you unplugged. Spend some time with your kids, fire
at the barbecue, grill, plays board games with them, do something, but just spend the time and hide those cell phones and the cushion so they can't be playing on the cell phones. You guys, got anything before we
get out of here, Enjoy your weekend, have a good one, all right, guys. That's gonna and make sure you guys put that on your
calendar. We're gonna be out there. It's gonna be July twentieth, so
you're gonna want to be out there for the auction. I talked to you
guys. Soon we're out of here.
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