Sprinting in a Renault, restomod MGBs Dolphin Surf

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John Mangian writes to say, as I was watching hostage last night on Netflix, I've not seen this yet. No, I might do the prime minister in the show played by Seran Jones was being whisked away from imminent danger in a 2025 BMW 7 series.

The BMW looked sophisticated and luxurious, but it's not a Jaguar XJ, which I think has been the real life go to UK limousine for Royal and diplomatic VIPs if not in some movies and TV shows.

With the recent production stoppage at Jaguar, what would make for the best UK diplomatic and Royal limo on screen or off?

Our German auto is going through an awkward phase is a Bentley or a Rolls-Worst two extravagant is a South Korean brand sending weird optics is a Cadillac do Trumpian a Toyota century.

This is clearly a matter of some urgency says a concerned American expat living in Galway island.

John, well good old John. The reason that they don't drive land raindravers is because as we heard, I think from somebody who was associated with JLR in some respect.

By the time that armoured, they're too heavy aren't they? I think it's a Bentley. I bet you that it's a Bentley OK, do you think it's not too flash for a prime minister?

I don't think so. I think there wouldn't be too flash for another country's prime minister.

That's a fair point I think. I don't think they need to be all that shy and retiring and we've mentally built British people in crew. Every Bentley built provides people with work.

It may not be a British owned company but nothing is.

The UK is pitching itself at times as a place where high quality things are made. Why should we not?

It's a hell of a nice place to ride in so I suppose if we want these people to deploy their thinking power to the best fit, they might as well have a nice ride.

It's comfortable a place as possible to do it. Do you reckon the good people have Bentley would do them or maybe they have offered them some kind of arrangement?

They did a deal with the Queen didn't they? There were a couple of limo's built that I'm sure they can't believe they couldn't come to an arrangement.

Surely they could come to some maybe a nice sort of nearly new job. Surely we look out for it.

Because what are they rocking around in Audi's these days?

The royals certainly were not sure if they still are but in Audi's and Bentley's are related but Bentley just feels a bit more British.

I think so. I think we've found the answer for them.

I think we have. I think we have a light on it.

John needs credit for.

Yeah thanks John for bringing this thing to our collective attention.

Yeah pointing us in the right direction with his cross Atlantic and cross Irish sea expertise.

Thanks for from from abroad. We appreciate it.

Overlooking the sea. What a segway that is.

What's a gate Bay? Where is Watergate Bay? What is it? Why have you been there?

Watergate Bay is slightly to the north. It's on the Cornish coast north coast.

Slightly to the north of Newkey. The reason I was there is because they every year for two days they shut a section of the road.

Coast road and run a sprint there called the Watergate Bay sprint.

Two years ago I did it in a BMW i4 with a bunch of blocs in a small EV class.

The winners were Teslas which are which were turned out to be lighter and a bit more powerful than the BMW i4 even though that guy had 500 horsepower.

So I thought I'm never going to beat these fellas so I'll go down there in my long term at the Renault 5 150 horsepower.

Small relatively light turns in really well stable.

Anyway I had a go at it and as the as the days as the Saturday which was the day was going to be there.

It got closer and closer it was quite obvious it was going to be the mother and father of all deluge as it was.

So the Renault 5 being a small car not ultra light but lighter than many.

Turned out to be agile and safe and stable and quite good off the marketer like all EVs to get not to 14 not to 60 good and quick.

So I did all right beat a few blocs.

Good.

Came third out of five.

So that's I mean given that over the five.

The first two were Teslas 600.

Yeah so rather more powerful than a five.

Yeah and forward ride.

Yeah yeah yeah.

I mean cranky.

So and I beat a few surprising cars you know there's some blocs there in really powerful Westfields.

They were completely stymied by the wet.

Of course.

Because the trouble is no no mass and it doesn't load the tires because they were all over the place.

Yeah it can't get there.

But there was a bloke there in an Audi V8 four wheel drive.

Oh beat him.

Oh very good.

So I felt I felt quite cocky.

Yeah.

But it was it was a shocking day.

And the towards it you'd as I say deluge four fifths of the day for the last fifth.

There was a kind of 60 mile an hour breeze up the blue every single tent away except ours.

And ours was nearly blown away.

We had a tent to protect chairs and helmets and you know race pyjamas and all the nonsense that you've got to take with you.

Yeah.

But it was a thoroughly brilliant day and there were great people to be with.

And I like the kind of cornish way of doing motorsport.

It's a complete absence of nonsense and over the topness.

So is there so that if you're looking for shelter it is shelter that you take with you.

And where do you set up in a field somewhere else?

Yeah there's a big paddock or monster paddock that's used a few weeks earlier for a surfing festival I think which kind of music.

And they get thousands up there on the top of the cliffs and we were in the same field, much smaller event but spacious beautiful view.

Right at the end of the day everything stopped and suddenly there was sun on the sea and it all looked fabulous.

Wonderful.

It was one of those great.

I'm going again.

I was going to say is that what would you...

Is there another event this year or next year?

No, it'll be just the same dates next year.

Cornwall is not particularly well served with motorsport venues.

There are a few old airfields that are used for sprints and things but they haven't.

The nearest actual racing circuit is Castle Coom which is near Bristol.

Quite a long way away.

Yeah.

But fabulous, really good.

What would you go in next year?

What we've got on test or are you thinking that you could do with that thing?

I think Alpine A290 might do it.

Well I think the small size was good.

Yeah.

Fairly big tires for you know no overhangs agile car.

A bit more poke.

Well an extra 30% whatever it is power.

200 instead of 150.

Yeah.

So I'm thinking that...

Oh the thing that happened to me which was really interesting was that you have to have...

You probably know you have to have a beam break or a timing strut in the front of the car so that

you can be timed accurately both departing and arriving at the finish.

Yeah.

So when you set off...

Yeah.

You don't have to go when they count you down.

No, no.

And then there's a little blade on the front of the car that breaks the timing beam to start the timer.

That's exactly it.

And as soon as the blade moves the timing starts automatically.

Right.

And then you break the beam at the other end and that's your time.

I had the wrong...

I'd pony up a beam breaker of my own.

It turned out to be too high.

I used the going high on the car.

Right.

But so I was, you know, sort of scorned and generally reviled by everybody who knew what they were doing

for not having the correct gizmo and I was rather stymied by it in the practice run.

Yeah.

And then I encountered a bloke called Neil Yates who is runs a rather excellent company based one mile away at New Year's port called Rally Prep.

Have we come across Neil before?

Yeah.

And he's actually one of his customers is Mr. Chris Harris.

Oh really?

He's got a, there's a, there's a rather nice oldish BMW 3 Series prepared for sprints and rallies and things like that.

Which I must say I envy sitting in the workshop.

Anyway, Neil being a wonderful bloke that he is sort of said, leave it to me.

Jumped in his car, went back to the workshop, appeared 20 minutes later with the correct gizmo for my car.

I really plugged it in and I was able to go home with my life.

And but I, as he was screwing this thing into the, into the Renault, I was thinking, this is like getting your, getting a brain surgeon to, to clip your toenails.

It's, you know, it's difficult.

He's such a fantastic engineer.

Yeah.

He was grabbing about with me and my timing strap was fantastic.

So you, you screw it into the slot that would, into the hub that would normally take a little more towing eye?

Yeah, they've got a towing eye and this did, does have a loop.

And I just hung a piece of tin on the, the effect off the, off the end of this and it just didn't go down far enough.

Yeah.

And in any case it was a bit floppy so that after I'd done the run, the wind had got to it and bent it into a twist and into ridiculous shape.

Yeah.

Neil understood all this.

Yeah.

And he, the thing he appeared with was, was made out of an e-type exhaust hanger.

So it was pretty rigid.

Yeah.

And he, and various other bits and pieces, he said, some of the components of this thing I'm about to bang into your car, have one championship on this very course.

Well, you know what to do, mate.

Yeah.

No pressure.

Unfortunately, the third out of five was the best I could do.

But I think that's pretty good going in a bog standard Renault five.

Yeah.

Well, the car was really surprisingly good.

And a better driver.

You would have done the better, you know, you would have done it.

You would have done it.

I don't think so.

Yeah, you would.

You're very kind.

Should we talk more on this or should we move on to the B by D dolphin surf while we're coastbound?

Well, I'm just, I'm just thinking, would you, if you've got the bug to go back and do it again, would you do it in?

I don't know.

Could you be persuaded to having seen some competition cars?

Yeah.

Could you, I got really, I got really, well, do you start with them?

Two things happened.

Being in the, in the company of Neil Yates who builds excellent cars, you know, sort of competitive little cars for sprinting and rally cars and rallying and so on.

You know, single venue rallies and so stuff.

I mean, he's a, he can do anything, Neil Yates, but his heart's in these little cars.

So we got talking about hot 205's, hot 309's.

And I found myself thinking the best fun that I've ever had in all the cars that I've, all the sort of silly cars I've ever owned was, was a, you know,

Peugeot 309 GTI that we had, started life on eBay 250 quid because of a wreck.

Went off to the Peugeot apprentices who did a hell of a lot to it.

And came back as quite a good thing.

Yeah.

And if I could replicate that car, you know, sort of no interior, weighed, weighed less than our Lotus Alise that we had on long-term test at the time.

So it was fairly fast, 1.9 GTI.

Yeah.

Something like that would be good fun, but I also like the idea of doing it in Navy because, well, I think an A290 and Alpine A290 would be pretty well suited to that course.

But I'm definitely going to do something next year.

Yeah.

Shall I see, I think we might have talked about this before.

Shall I see if the owner of that 309 still has it?

Well, what do you know this?

Do you know?

I tried him out.

Oh, OK.

And he, annoyingly, he said, I'm going to die with it, mate.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

Because it was a nicely prepared car in the end, and it got wound into a deal that I did with, to buy my aerial atom years ago.

And he's got growing kids.

And what he wants to do is what I did, which is to use it for him and his kids.

Oh, that's very cool.

And I think we'll be just right.

That's, I did try and buy it back, and he said, we'll get it.

We'll get it.

You've had that because that boat has sailed, obviously.

Yeah.

OK.

Well, in which case, let's now move on to the BYD Dolphin Surf, because you spent some time.

Yeah, the S20.

Yeah, I think I spent I drove on a couple of months ago too.

Was that the long?

Yes.

Yes, yes, yes, just around London, just around North London.

I didn't so very far and not very well.

I say that we ran up to Potter's Bar, sort of way out of Alexandra Palace.

So, but you know, a couple of hours in it.

Did you like it?

Yeah, I quite like it.

I thought it was pretty good.

Yeah.

At the money.

Well, that's the thing.

It's not, yeah, it was not a lot of money.

Quite a...

That's what I think.

A big amount of car, if you know what I mean.

Yeah.

The SMMT, which is the car manufacturer's union, have you liked, had a driving day for likes of us

in just near Coventry?

A coup, maybe.

And there were various interesting cars there.

But I just was particularly keen to have a go in this car.

It looks nice.

Quite a sporty little sort of big issue.

It's not quite a...

It's a sort of hatchback fiesta in a bit almost, isn't it?

Yeah.

And...

But it just seemed like a really nice little car.

And I found myself liking it a lot.

And I found...

I also found myself...

You remember we were talking about...

You wrote something not so long ago about how the...

If the industry...

The local industry is going to prevail against Chinese opposition.

It's going to have to make its own defence.

Yes.

So, I just wondered...

I've had a letter from a reader about it today, actually.

But I just wondered that I think you can't rely on all consumers to support local industry

in the face of products that are cheaper and perfectly decent from elsewhere.

Yeah.

And I don't know how much support government is going to...

Various governments throughout Europe would give domestic industry to...

Yeah.

There are sort of...

There are rumblings, aren't there?

Yeah.

There are some tariffs on these.

But the bottom line for me is that I just found myself walking towards this car

and away from it, thinking, if this car was a box on, I'd be saying it was great.

And...

You know...

You just can't expect the consumer to be...

To bother with politics when what they're trying to do is...

Own cheap transport that works.

Yeah.

Exactly.

From memory...

I mean, BYD, Dolphin Surf, boost available from £199 a month with the 200 customer deposit.

Yeah.

Isn't that?

They're given a £1900 deposit contribution and £1700 a quid retailer discount.

And that's...

You know...

A 0% APR representative.

I mean...

You know...

How do you...

So basically, somebody's going, right, I've got £200 and then I'm going to spend £200 a month on a car.

And then in three years, I will give it back and I will...

Maybe have to pay a little bit if I've done over the mileage or if I've scuffed a wheel.

And then I'll get another new car.

And if anything goes wrong with it, I will never own a problem.

I will never own the car, but I don't care.

Yeah.

I'll just have a car.

And by the way, you'll probably...

This person will probably have part of it with less money than the train fare would have been.

Oh yeah, 100%.

Yeah, somebody put a...

Somebody put a ticket...

As people occasionally do on social media, they go,

Oh, I've just looked at how much it's going to cost me to go to Leeds in the morning.

It was like 460 quid.

It was about that more 640 quid or something.

Yeah.

And it's just like...

I mean, I bought an Audi A2 for £500.

I'm paid 30 quid to put a wheel bearing on it and it has a clean MOT.

And if it...

If that is all I had done to it, then because I'm an idiot,

I spent 800 quid on wheels and tires.

But if that was all I'd done to it and spent £200 on insurance and ran it for a year.

And then it...

I don't know.

The head to gasket blue or the timing chain broke or whatever.

I'm just...

I'm just keeping my...

Still a bit alright.

Somebody will come and collect it for scrap and give me 200 quid.

Yeah.

And then that's it.

It's just like how...

But as it is, it's...

You know, the likely was just kind of a plot on for a whole lot of money.

Oh, a plot on for a month.

It's done 150-something thousand miles now.

160-something.

Start to worry when it's done 250.

Yeah, so it's averaging now about...

So I've got my 94 to the gallon out there the other day.

Plan is to try and get 100 in a feature and video soon.

But the...

It's settled at about high 70s.

70-77s.

Including small journeys, local journeys.

It's a lot of money now.

So I can't really argue with that, can you?

No, you can not.

Really?

Anyway, I just...

Yeah, sorry.

I was digressed.

Well, no, it's not digressing.

I was...

I was well taken with this car just as a...

As an engaging piece of transport.

And everything worked.

You know, I...

I had less trouble figuring out all the nonsense in the...

on the fascia than I did with a VW T-Rock

that I was subsequently loaned a couple of days later.

Yeah, I was going to talk about that in part two,

but I'm tempted to talk about it maybe earlier.

There's going to be a new T-Rock, isn't there before the end of this?

Yeah, I believe.

But you've got one...

You've had one.

No, you still have it, do you?

Yes, a loaner.

Your...

Alpine A110 is...

At the Mender's garage.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm not sure if we've talked about it before,

but the A110 has this endemic problem.

I think most of them have it.

Incredibly, they were built with the plastic...

you know, a composite inner wing liners

held in by steel clips.

The wings themselves are made of aluminium.

Yeah.

And the steel and aluminium have an argument,

immediate chemical argument,

and the result is bubbles in your...

your wings.

And so Alpine who are themselves, you know,

the poor people who have to sell them at this end,

are rather appalled by this themselves.

So they're doing absolutely all they can.

My car has been taken in.

It's going to be come back good as new.

But it needs a...

less than just less than four years old,

it needs a new wing.

One new wing, not four, but there's...

Oh, okay.

But there's bubbles in four of them.

And so they're going to...

Three can be repaired.

One needs to be replaced.

Well.

And I'm a bit...

because I've got this stranger,

Teliacala called tulip noir,

which is purple.

Yeah.

And they're only a hundred of them or something.

Oh, crikey.

I'm a...

just a bit worried about whether they can paint it properly,

but we'll...

They've made all kinds of...

bullish noises and say,

you won't believe how fabulous it'll be, mate.

Or that.

So...

I'd take it as ton draft.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I suppose it's right in a spot where

water does get thrown up and builds up and grime and everything.

Yeah.

You know, that under the...

Yeah, the wheel arches.

It's a...

It's a proper trap for that sort of thing.

Exactly that.

Yeah.

But it's...

It's actually...

I keep thinking, I mean,

I am usually optimistic.

And what I find myself thinking is that this is quite a test,

because if you hated the car, you'd say,

right, that's it.

Get rid of it.

Ah, it's interesting.

But the truth is,

I'm really looking forward to it coming back in pristine condition,

because I like the car and I want to keep it.

Yeah.

And that...

That is a mouthful for me,

because I don't always keep things for very long.

That's true.

You are an optimistic man, though.

I have noticed that.

You're...

Yeah, usually positive.

Yeah.

You are a positive sort of...

I do envy that, because I get very grumpy, very easily,

about quite a lot of things.

I don't think that's at all fair to you.

Well, if you were my gas supplier

and you've been on the end of two emails,

I've sent them today,

you would not think that.

Well, I mean, we were having a bit of a winch about various affairs

in the office just a day ago.

And the thing that struck me about you

is that you were just sort of fair-minded and nice and...

Well, it's fair.

And I was just being irassable and...

You know, not at all.

This is really bad radio Steve,

but I'm just a bit warm.

Could you pop one of those things off here?

I think so.

Thank you.

There's a heater down there,

which has attracted the cap to the table.

But it's just getting a little bit...

It's a little bit stuffy, I think.

Yeah.

You might get a bit of a seam back.

It seems that...

It seems that Taylor, if he's not careful.

Where were we...

The A110, my gas supplier...

Oh, I was on the birthday of...

This T-Rock is a loner.

And...

Oh, yes, that's right.

And I...

Perfectly good car.

Refined, quiet.

Obviously durable.

Yeah.

Reason me, roomy.

But I just disliked it intensely.

Because it was such a damn drive to school.

You know...

No soul at all.

Completely devoid of any character.

So it was one of those.

Either a T-Rock, or a T-Cross, or a...

Something.

I drove...

Oh, I can't remember like three years ago maybe.

And it just felt like...

The small Volkswagen compact crossover just distilled into...

Into a...

Perfect is the wrong word.

But nothing is also the wrong word.

But do you know what I mean?

It's just like...

Just distilled it to complete clarity.

Yeah.

With all impurities removed.

And you go, well, this is fine.

Yeah.

What's it like?

It's fine.

What does it do?

Yeah.

Is it smooth?

Yeah, does it ride?

Yeah.

You know, can you use the interior?

I think it still had the little turning dials rather than...

The silly infotainment.

Right.

But it was just so...

I don't know.

It sort of...

It...

Inoffensive that it was almost slightly...

Offensive.

Yeah.

Well, this thing had the...

That...

You know, how VWs have recent times, you know,

have got all this confusing screen-based stuff.

I couldn't figure it out.

No.

I just...

Luckily, all I had to do was drive it from basing stoke to home and park it in the corner.

And that's what I'll do until...

And that's it stayed there since...

Yes.

But...

But the thing is VW...

If you think about some of the cars I built GTIs, you know,

look at the app.

I mean, a car of...

Not really much value, but lovely little car.

Very cool.

But whenever you get in one, you think it's great.

Yeah.

We had a publisher...

I think who had an app for a time.

Yeah.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, but...

No, there's another...

Well, one of our other staffers had one as well.

And he...

But he had a Passat before.

Yeah.

And he said, I just like it just as much.

Because when you're facing forwards, it's all quite refined and normal.

You just look over your shoulder and there's just not much of it.

Yeah.

But otherwise, it's...

My brother's got an up GTI.

I think it's great.

Yeah, I think so.

I gather there are real prize now, because there are more.

I really...

And they're lovely little cars to drive.

Yeah.

They sort of down towards the West Country.

And I think it's just the perfect size and shape.

And you never scuff the front.

And you can park it at the station.

And you can go to some old market town and find a spot for it.

Yeah.

Spot on, I think.

Yeah.

Spot on.

What was I going to...

What was I going to mention?

Maybe I was going to mention another small car.

Oh, I'll come back to it in part two.

It's the front line MGB, which...

Oh, yes.

Which I just arrived in it yours last week.

Yeah.

But I spent it so great.

I spent a couple of days in it, but I'll talk about that in part two.

Yeah.

I must catch up with one other thing.

You know, you very kindly reminded me to pay the dart charge on the Super 3.

Oh, yeah.

I put it into the computer.

Pay the dart charge for the Morgan Super 3.

Guess what?

You don't have to pay it.

Hey.

Because it's got to be my motorcycle.

Yeah, because it's a motorcycle slash tricycle.

Don't you love it?

Which is great.

So, as we speak, I'm 24 hours away from going to Morgan, because the plus four was announced

75 years ago this week.

So there will be a feature.

It's my column.

And it will be a feature online.

By the time this podcast comes out, about the 75th anniversary of the plus four.

I really hope you get it.

I mean, I think it might be difficult, but I really hope you get a go in an old one.

Well, I won't get to go in the one they've got there tomorrow, but I have had an email from

a reader saying you should come and drive mine, which is incredibly kind reader.

Thank you.

It is.

So I haven't replied to it yet, but I will do this often.

And I will.

I don't think I'll be able to before this feature comes out, but I would love to have again.

Because that's.

Yeah.

You've tried one.

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean, I always liked them, but, but just for the crudity, really, it's a, it's not really.

It seems to me there are cars and cars.

There are the cars that you just drive for the experience and put them away.

And there are the ones that can actually take you somewhere.

And I'm not sure that an original plus four is.

Or indeed, four four is.

I don't know if you would cover it anymore, but maybe we'll hear from your, your reader.

Yeah.

So you think so.

How much he uses his.

Is his midges just doing better?

Do you think he's backside on fire?

No, I think he's a fire mate.

I just sort of, yeah, listen to the cast just looked up from something and started to look out the window.

But I think there are, I saw a pigeon flying a minute ago.

Is this like, this is like, test match special.

With a twig in its beak and disappeared into a tree.

But I don't, is it a nest bit?

Look, there he is.

He's on top of the ball right now with a, with a twig in its beak.

And he's going to go into the tree.

But he's a bit late.

Was it a nest building time of year?

Well, yeah, I would have thought you're supposed to build nest nest in about April.

March.

So unless it's just, I don't know, or terminal maintenance, I don't really know.

But anyway, but yeah, we think to do.

But it, but unless it's stuck.

Maybe it's a bit of a slow.

No, unless it's stuck in its beak.

I mean, it's been this is the last three months.

TMS test match special ideas.

You know, the next thing we can look forward to is some, some nice listener bursting through the,

through the door with a, with a Victoria sponge saying, oh, you go.

Can you imagine?

That would be something.

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Portia Taycan.

Oh, well, I was just reading automotive news who were saying that the amount

of money that the VW group were going to sacrifice or lose because they'd

changed their model planning for Portia's.

They're going to stick with more ice cars and more hybrids and soft pedal on the EVs.

And that was going to cost 4.4 billion quid to do to develop or in.

Well, just in plans that they made and now have to reverse out of.

Right.

And, you know, and I think that would presume that means deals with suppliers.

Oh, quite a lot.

Of course.

Yeah, okay.

And that made me think that the general, the world is going to say, well, existing Portia

EVs must, you know, can't be particularly highly valued.

Well, as we know, there are lots of Taycans for sale.

I looked on Autotrader 630 on second-hand Taycans for sale yesterday.

Wow.

And I thought, okay, I'll choose my perfect car, which is a

version with a big battery.

I like Mamba Green because of steering committee likes it basically, which colors

that.

It's a sort of rather loud green color.

Yeah.

It's not a, it's not a flat green.

No, no, it's quite unlucky to it.

A pearly.

It's a, it's a, it's a bright green.

Yeah.

Lightish bright green.

But anyway, 21 plate, 28,000 miles.

Big battery.

Tycan.

Not the turbo, but the one of the ones up there.

Like a four or a four wheel drive.

And it was.

Oh, yeah.

45 grand.

And I thought, well, if you.

You know, private owner, if you have a bit of an argument, you might come out of it at

41 or two.

Uh-huh.

And that seems to have given what cars cost these days.

Yeah, because they'll be a hundred and something thousand.

Yeah.

Easily.

Yeah.

And I mean, 28,000 miles, it's really not remotely worn out.

It's still, you can't stop it being a good car, even if it's an EV that.

Yeah.

So I think, you know, if I had the bottle, like, and then the need, I could see myself moving

into one of them.

But unfortunately, by the time I buy my track car from Neil, Ye too.

And they accommodate all the other junk we've got already.

Yeah.

And the A to B and A 110 comes home.

Yeah.

As well, uh, to reoccur by its space.

Yeah.

It doesn't leave a lot of.

Doesn't leave a lot of room.

No.

I forgot to do letters at the start of part two.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Order car at haymarket.com is how you reach us.

Listen at all.

Steve.

And I both have our respective emails at the end of our columns.

Mike Ran of Great Kings Hill says, is it just me?

Or does Ferrari appear to have designed the new Testerossa so that the Lego version will

look identical to the real thing?

What a hero.

And also, Peter McDonald says, I was pleased to see that the facelifted Honda Civic relieved a generally

favorable review, Autocar 17th of September.

The surprise, it hasn't been more popular.

It's a rare sight on UK roads.

Perhaps it's because Autocar hasn't published a road test of the cooking version.

I don't know.

Do we not?

I would have thought we did.

But clearly Peter thinks things don't be truthful.

I don't remember it either, but could we suddenly did a type R road test recently?

Yeah.

Anyway, um, as Peter says, I bought a new one earlier this year.

And I think it's a great car.

I didn't want an SUV.

And I fancy something different from a Dolph Corolla, etc.

It's not being an enthusiastic car, but it's low slung design.

Makes it feel quite sporty.

I love the EV driving experience with the reassurance of a petrol engine to charge the battery,

giving me that range-extender effect.

The only disappointment is there's no high adjustment for the front passenger seat,

which renders it uncomfortable for my wife in my view,

and I'm fortunate piece of cost-cutting.

Yes.

Yes, that does.

I agree with it.

Well, hang on.

I agree with the sentiments, except I do think it's an enthusiast car.

I always think a Honda's has been a bit special,

maybe because of all the Honda motorbikes I had over the years.

I just liked their attitude.

Yeah.

Yes, that is a shame about their height, adjuster.

That wrist bit, isn't it, really?

It's a bit of a mistake.

As you say, it's real.

As he says.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I liked it.

I did a UK launch of them.

And I think I drove with Colin Goodwin, our correspondent.

And we're driving along.

We're driving about half an hour.

I told you this.

I'm sure I've told you this.

We were driving along.

Swaped over and blah, blah, blah.

I carried on driving.

And we were just chatting nonsense as you can imagine with Goodwin.

Good rep.

And at some point he stopped talking and he went,

is it me or is this really, really good?

I don't know.

I mean, yeah, it is really spectacular.

Yeah.

And it's got, so it's basically,

really, if you don't know this, it's a factor.

It has a drive motor, which does almost all of the driving.

And the engine exists as a generator for the battery,

which then powers the motor, which then powers the wheels.

It has gears, but they're not real gears.

Yeah.

So it changes revs, and it drives through its transmission,

but it's not actually doing any mechanical changes at all.

But if you're in top gear, which I'm saying is eighth,

top in inverter commas, because it's not a real gear.

And the engine would be spinning over at very low revs.

The motor may not on its own.

I don't quite exactly work out why as it, but there is,

there is one fixed ratio at which the engine will also connect to the front wheels.

I see.

And I think that is because yeah,

that's a sort of cruising ratio.

And it must be that it's just more efficient for it to do it.

Or the motor is then spinning at such high revs

that it becomes less efficient than the engine to power it directly

by the time you've taken the electricity out there

and converted it and converted it back into motion again, blah, blah, blah.

But it's done with sums.

Yeah.

Yeah, they'll have just, and it's the same deal for the new prelude.

Yeah.

The difference with the prelude being when that goes on sale,

that you will be able to change gears yourself.

So it's got flappy gear shift paddles.

But the same applies.

They don't do anything.

Does the Honda that Civic you were in,

did that have rear rear steer?

Oh, no, I don't know.

Because I think the prelude does have rear steer, am I right?

Yes, I think so.

And I believe it does.

I am a believer in rear steer.

And it's just another thing that Honda does well except that the original

or an original prelude years ago did have rear steer.

It was fabulous until the moment when it became uncontrollable.

And the...

Was it passive or was it active?

It was active, I think.

Right.

And it was...

Yes, it was active.

But they foolishly allowed us to drive on a circuit.

So you could drive it onto the limit.

Oh, OK.

And there was a point where it just went and you were...

That was it, mate.

You know, you couldn't just sort of nicely recover it.

How good you were.

And just it gave you a view of where you'd come from.

Oh, I see.

Yeah.

Pigeons can nest all year round due to the mild climate in the UK,

but peak nesting activity occurs between March and October.

Oh, so this bloke's on top?

Yeah, it's on to one.

Yeah.

It keeps going in and out behind you with a twig about...

I don't know, six, eight inches wide across its...

The same twig.

Well, it must be a different one.

It must keep finding ones of the right.

But I don't know if it's snapping them off or whether it's just picking them up,

but it seems to have...

I've seen it with four different ones in the time that we've been...

God, busy enough time that we've been talking to.

Maybe he's a builder.

Maybe.

But now it's some productive job, rather than...

Rather than sitting around chatting about things like...

Things like the frontline MGB.

Oh, the frontline MGB is a fine machine.

Have you ever driven a...

Yes, you had to go...

I drove an MGC, not longer.

Did you?

Yeah.

That's a bit like a B, but wider with a V8, is that...

No, I just went with an Austin 3-litre, six-cylinder donkey in there.

Of course it is.

And it started off badly because the company told the owners that the tire pressures were...

Just sort of 25 PSI and they needed to be 35.

And as a result, they all understood into this scrub.

Whereas it didn't need to be like that.

And the people who now understand the car, think they're good.

Oh, really?

Very talking, extremely talking.

Because as you know from your frontline experience,

there's not a lot about the car, so...

No.

So, even though it's not a powerful engine, the 3.0.6, it's talking.

Well, flexible.

This story on the frontline, plus also Mazda MX-5,

Restomod by Rocket here.

We'll be out in the Mac and on video sometime in the next few weeks.

But I hadn't driven a frontline car before.

I went to the archive, the magazine shop.com,

for the entire auto car archive.

When I logged in, because I logged in in the office yesterday,

I also, because you log in as, hey, market weirdly,

but you get access to the classical sports car archive, too.

So I searched for frontline,

and I'd, what I had not realized is they have a history

going back to the early 90s,

or working on sprigits.

They were called frontline sprigit, I think, at one point.

And they did sprites and medits and nor kinds of little MGs.

But, and then they introduced their first,

what we would now commonly know as a Restomod,

I think maybe 10 more years ago.

And that was, and that was the MGB,

Ellie 50, I think they called it.

They did 50, they were about 50,000 pounds each.

I think they're still, and they still,

there was one on car and classic the other day,

which was still 50 grand.

All the money.

Yeah, still, still at the same as it costs.

Is that the end of the run sort of thing?

Can't remember.

But whatever, whatever the rest of the mod, they do these days.

So the base price for one now is about 125,000 pounds.

But it's got a two-and-a-half liter Mazda Ford Duratec engine.

Do you have Jonathan Palmer used those in these sevens

that we did a feature on five years ago?

Oh, yeah, he's one.

We did some tight testing for them.

He took the, his technicians took the balance of shafts out.

Frontline does that too.

So it's quite a lot of weight.

But it's quite a lot of weight.

It must pick up one of these balance of shafts off the shelf.

It must have weighed 10 plus kilos, I don't know if that's not.

Heavy things.

Anyway, they've turned it up to 285, 290 horsepower.

It's got a six-speed, it makes five gearbox.

Limit is slip differential, weighs about a ton, stiff and shell,

different suspension, front and rear.

Those recent changes to the DVLA-led, what do you call them?

Rules about what you can do.

It has really cleared things up for them,

because actually what everybody who's modifying restoring classic cars

wants to go to do is retain the car's original title.

The changes that we discussed on this show a few weeks ago.

You can change your car's chassis, you can change its suspension,

you can do bits to it, and you can retain the original title if you want to.

And that was kind of the way it always used to be.

Then it changed a bit, and depending on who looked at your car

they could say, well, that should really now be on a Q number plate,

or whatever.

Anyway, they've cleared up that sort of thing, which makes life much easier for front life.

But what I, because I just got in it and then came to you last week,

had a nice drive over, but then I had another sort of 24-30 hours in it.

God, mate, I really like it.

Well, I've really, really...

To the point of being able to own them.

Yeah, I mean, the front line is a frontline version would be beyond me,

but most of what's appealing about it, or a lot of what's appealing about it,

surely comes from the fact that it's quite a decent base car in the first place,

isn't it?

I think so.

I've not driven a standard one.

It was the first MGB I've ever driven, which is remiss of me,

no feature has ever presented itself for me to drive on, but they are...

It's not so different from...

Well, that car, you know, I was deeply impressed with it when he brought it over,

as was the bloke working on our roof.

You know, we have his three-story house, bloke descends from the roof to inspect your motor.

Well, it was very MGB-ish, the interior.

You know, they've got big long-foot well, pretty spacious for a car of that era.

Built that way, because I think from memory there was a bloke called John Thornley involved in it,

and he was a big guy, I think, somebody will correct me, but it was...

It's a big car inside.

And it looked like an MGB.

I really, I really rated it.

So I think you have had the MGB experience, except that...

Okay, donkey has... But twice about.

Yeah, but also that interior...

I mean, the front line redo the interiors beautifully.

They're really wonderfully trimmed.

It's got a good audio system. It's got loads of stuff going for it.

It's got new seats. They're incredibly comfortable.

Yeah.

And it just struck me that...

Because if you stuck that...

But people were asking me what it's like.

And it sounds like...

You've taken a bit for granted when it goes.

It's really usable. It's really practical.

But actually, I mean, it is the greatest compliment.

You can just get in it and drive it.

And really, really enjoy it.

But it tracked so smoothly and easily on a motorway.

And I just ran it down to our photo shoot on Friday,

drove it around all day, drove it back to having done to give it back.

And just... Yeah, I didn't want to get out of it.

Yeah, you can tell, can't you?

Yeah, you can feel it.

And I just thought, crikey, how...

Anyway, so I wrote subscriber extra,

which is an email that subscribers get every Friday

with some editorial content.

And I was down to write it last week.

And I was in the car at the time.

And I was thinking about this MGB.

And John Evans, our correspondent,

wrote a feature the other day on what classic cars are doing well

in terms of values in which are not...

Because Gen X's and millennials are in a phase of buying classic cars

at the moment.

It's people of my sort of age and a bit younger.

They are into cars from the 80s and 90s.

So there's some Sierra Cosworth sold for half a million quid the other week,

whatever it was.

As a result, some classics,

which the phrase was boomer classics.

I don't know if that's fair or not.

But the classics owned by...

Typically owned by older people who grew up with these cars in the 60s and 70s.

Such as the MGB, such as, I think,

healy sprites, and they're having a bit of a downturn in their values.

You can see it in the auction prices.

Yeah.

But then I spoke to young Jack Harrison, our early 20s photographer,

and he said, two of my mates have got MGBs as their first cars.

Yeah.

Because actually Gen, Zed and the younger people,

they don't have the association,

any negative association with MGs being old man's cars or whatever.

They don't care.

They just see them for what they are,

which is small to see affordable.

Rather good looking.

Really good looking.

Yeah.

You can buy every single bit down to the new body shell.

If you want to, you can get everything.

He's like, yeah, yeah.

We just think that...

Oh, problem solved, problem solved.

Yeah, we just think they're great.

He said, so I started looking on car and classic,

as you can imagine.

I haven't got room for one Steve.

I haven't got the need for one Steve.

But why do I have a big load out use?

Why do I have an input I don't use?

Why do I have a project motorcycle I don't use?

When I could sack off all of them and buy a tidy car like that.

I actually use it all the time.

Yeah.

Just use it because it's just pleasant.

I would run into the office in it, run it down to the coast, run it down.

It's a great night out of the theatre or restaurant sort of car.

And it's just the, I mean, the way front line trim it,

and they have these lovely back lighting and little ambient lighting

and it's really, you think, okay, this feels really special.

But I think even a standard one could be made without too much effort

to feel pretty nice.

Zero depreciation, of course.

You know, you'd buy it well.

Our clements to the manager and chief of the class and sports cars

always good to talk to about MGVs.

He says, people look past them because there are so many of them.

Yeah.

But they shouldn't.

They shouldn't.

No.

And I, I did and now I shouldn't.

There was a rubber bumpered one.

I don't know, you can take the bumpers off quite easily.

Yeah.

And yellow, which is not my favourite colour.

But they're starting to become fashionable.

Well, they are a bit.

Like a Jagger XJS, they get a bit of coolness about it.

Yeah, that's it.

Yellow, which is not my favourite colour, but it doesn't matter.

And I can always change it if you wanted to.

And it had been from the description really well looked after.

It does need a clutch at the moment so it doesn't move.

But I've got loads of receipts.

I've been running it regularly for 10 years.

You can look at the MOT history, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You can look at the history, blah, blah, blah.

Whatever.

Two and a half thousand pounds.

Yeah.

Boss thought.

Crikey.

What a cool special car that would be.

What a nice time you'd have for two and a half.

I know two and a half thousand pounds is not nothing to spend on a piece of fun.

But people spend more than that on bicycles and televisions and all kinds of things.

And it's always worth that.

Yeah.

Yeah, you'd get such a lot of enjoyment out of it.

It's an argument that goes on in the head all the time.

Doesn't it?

Yeah, I would need to move.

I need to move the chickens, build the greenhouse.

And then there would be room for a shelter.

A shelter is all you need, isn't it?

I think so.

Yeah, I think so.

And actually, I just have a little shuffle of things around because the, you know, and also

I'd want a car that did work because I have enough things that don't.

I detect certain restlessness here.

Well, I don't know.

I don't.

Certainly not imminent, but it, but, but if I ever did buy another car, I think that would be next on.

Yeah.

I think that's what I would do.

But I need to finish some stuff first.

Yeah.

And also do quite a bit of work on the house.

So that there's room for it.

The old story.

Ah, the trouble is made.

So if I move the chickens from where they are, and it would be nice if they were more visible

closer to the house, but the closer you have them to the house, if you get chickens, they tend to attract rodents.

And so if you have them right next to the house, then you've got rodents kicking around the house, which is suboptimal.

So it's better that they're away from the house, but where they are is a bit closer to where my vehicles are, which means

there's a limited room down there.

And also if they do wander around the garage as they occasionally do, they just put on the floor.

Yeah.

But anyway, it's a story for another time.

What's happened finally at Motorsport News?

Well, I think hugely positive development.

It's been bought by Motorsport Vision, which is Jonathan Palmer's company.

Motorsport News is a venerable weekly newspaper that specializes in Motorsport.

The clues in the name.

But it's got a long and golden history, really.

But it's been hard to sustain, marginal in economics.

Jonathan Palmer has acquired it from the existing publisher.

And his reasoning is that Motorsport in the UK, which he sees as very healthy, and he should know, of course, he runs five circuits.

Isn't well enough covered in a press?

Interesting.

He intends to do something about that.

He already has any relationship with Motorsport News because he's matey with its editor.

And it's deputy editor indeed.

Those guys are going to stay in place, but they're going to be rebrived and better financed, I would think.

You know, there are lots of new energy.

Given that JP's amazing ability with running businesses, I would say that it was heading for good times.

And it's really nice that because I...

Well, I've always liked Motorsport News.

I've liked some wonderful names that have come into Otakawa, James Atwood, Jim Holder, Matt Bert, and others.

And they're all good.

They've all been really good people to work with and very capable, Janus.

And I'd love to see it prosper.

So well done, JP.

And I think the first issue is out now.

The first JP issue is already out.

I mean, he says it's not going to...

They're going to do a lot of careful thinking about exactly how to do things and what to component.

So it won't have changed overnight, but I'll bet you there will be some energy very soon.

I think that's good news.

Really good news.

Good.

Well, that brings us pretty much to the end of this week's pod.

We have to tell you that Steve and I...

Can we tell you people this yet about our November...

Yeah, why not?

To the Royal Automobile Club.

Yeah.

Where we will be interviewing who?

Well, we're going to be talking to Ian Callum and to his business partner, David Fairbeer.

They now run this design based business called Callum, which both creates, you know,

high design products, everything from scooters, furniture, restomod cars, Aston.

And they're building their own car in a fantastic little thing called the Callum Sky,

which is a sort of off-road, on-road car.

You know, you've seen it.

It's a little high-riding, sweet car.

It's energy-shaped thing.

Yeah.

I think I'm going to tell us what it's like to start a new business.

Ian Callum, of course, and indeed David, who worked with him,

were at Jaguar about five years ago, and Ian was the director of design

and did a great deal to modernize a company.

Yeah.

It's obviously changed again, as we know, but primarily he's going to...

I'm sure you'll talk a bit about Jaguar days, but mainly it'll be about looking forward,

you know, running a small company with your own name on it.

Yeah, look forward to that very much.

That is on October the 27th.

It's the first week of London Motor Week.

That's correct.

That's all on your club.

It runs a week of events that culminate in the Brighton run on Sunday and the following Sunday.

You and I are doing our stuff on the Monday.

Yes.

Are you doing the veteran car run on the Sunday?

I don't know.

I don't think so.

Somebody else is in the legendary Albion dog car.

Some lucky person.

I am...

It's...

Final details are still being ironed out, but there is a strong chance, I'm hopeful.

I'm in training for it, that I will be doing it on an old bicycle.

Oh, right.

Yeah.

Do you want to say why?

I've been a not just yet.

Exactly.

Because I could yet fall over.

This whole...

It could yet not happen.

But there are a couple of anniversaries this year and it would work.

If it works, it will work very nicely.

How are you feeling?

Fine, mate.

I've got...

I've got a night out in town in London town on Saturday.

So I'm going to take in a folding bicycle and cycle home on Sunday.

Wow.

And if I can do that?

That's about the same distance, about 60 miles.

So if I can do it, that will be my last big long session of proving to myself that I can do.

I mean, I could do it, but it might take the ages and I'll feel awful at the end.

And I don't really want to feel awful at the end.

I'd like to be in a place where I can go.

Of all the things that could go wrong.

You know, like blisters or a bicycle failure or got awful weather or whatever.

I would like fitness to not be one of those.

I'd like to go, yeah, okay, I'm confident I can get there.

So that's the...

But it's a pretty low level of...

It's not...

I don't think it's like running a marathon or anything,

but it's just a very low level of constant activity.

So it's fine.

But it would be nice to think.

Yeah.

I can do that rather than...

I think I can do that.

That'll be exciting.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

Steering committee and I will go to the start.

Oh, cool.

Yeah, well, I think the bicycles leave very, very early.

Yeah.

Is it first light or before first light?

Yes, I think.

Is it like four or five in the morning or something?

No, of course.

It's early.

I think they certainly leave with the first cars, which is...

Oh, actually seven o'clock on that.

Oh, okay.

I mean, that's when...

I think maybe 6.30.

I mean, it's barely light.

Yeah.

So you can put...

Yes, you can put...

You're allowed to put modern lights on a bicycle if you want to.

But they do that with the cars as well, aren't they?

Yeah, yeah.

Right on being run down by some traffic.

Anyway, more to come on that in the coming weeks.

You can find details.

It probably will have details...

Next week of where to send you if you want to come into town.

And hear us talk to...

Callum...

Yeah.

Design.

That's it.

Oh, the thing we should say is that...

I'm not quite sure when this one goes out.

Is it this pod?

Here is it.

It is the first of October.

Oh, okay.

So, in fact, anybody that wants to enter the...

So William Lines Award Young Journalist has missed the cap by one day.

Oh, absolutely.

By one day.

Well, unless it's one of those where they extend the deadline,

they may not.

They may feel not.

Yeah, I suppose I should know given that I'm on other judges.

But we'll...

Well, we look forward to...

I really hope so.

I look forward to reading some of those.

Yeah.

And they need the finished article.

Well, we're going to publish the winner.

Yeah.

So we'll look forward to that.

Yeah.

Do you keep an eye on how many entries have come in and so on and so forth?

I've got no idea.

I think they've gone to the...

There's a sort of first cut.

Right.

The things being sponsored or being backed by us and by Jagger.

Of course.

And the finalists, the last, I don't know, a couple of dozen,

being judged by me and a Jagger director whose name has catched me.

But he's a very nice guy.

Excellent.

Good.

Well, that's...

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