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Stellantis "Core" Brands, Forester Wilderness, Used EV Prices

Stellantis "Core" Brands, Forester Wilderness, Used EV Prices

Car Stuff Podcast May 04, 2026 54 min
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About this episode

The conversation jumps from Stellantis narrowing its lineup to Jeep, Ram, Peugeot, and Fiat, then into Subaru’s Forester Wilderness and its real-world towing and fuel economy. From there, the hosts bring in iSeeCars data on used EVs, where Tesla stands out from non-Tesla models, before debating Toyota’s cautious EV approach and Ford’s Lightning headaches. It wraps with a Ferrari Roma Spider drive, plus some pricing, performance, and fuel-thirst talk.

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Car

Toyota Grand Highlander

"Dear Crew, it's Toyota. With an adult-sized third-row, everyone's welcome in the Grand Highlander."

The Toyota Grand Highlander is a bigger Toyota SUV with three rows of seats. They’re pointing out that the back row is roomy enough for adults, not just kids.

Car

Toyota Sienna

"From sports fans to eco-buffs and movie fans, sync back in the Sienna with an available rear seat entertainment system."

The Toyota Sienna is a minivan. They’re mentioning that it can come with screens/entertainment for people sitting in the back.

Car

Volkswagen VR6

"But it's an interesting story about the Volkswagen VR6. And we'll talk about that a little later in the show if we have a chance... It was the narrowest-angle V6 ever."

The Volkswagen VR6 is a special type of engine layout. It’s basically a V6 that’s squeezed into a smaller space, so smaller cars can still get V6 power.

Car

Volkswagen Jetta

"It was the narrowest-angle V6 ever. And it allowed Volkswagen to stuff V6 engines into the Gulf, the Jetta, into little places."

The Volkswagen Jetta is a small sedan. They’re saying the VR6 engine could be put into it because the engine design was compact.

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narrowest-angle V6

"It was the narrowest-angle V6 ever. And it allowed Volkswagen to stuff V6 engines into the Gulf, the Jetta, into little places."

A “narrow-angle V6” means the V-shaped part of the engine is squeezed closer together. That helps the engine fit in smaller cars.

Car

Eagle Talon

"Yeah. I had an Eagle Talon TSI all-wheel drive at the time."

The Eagle Talon TSI is a sporty version of the Talon. The speaker mentions theirs was all-wheel drive, which matters for how it accelerates and grips.

Car

Volkswagen Jetta GLX

"My wife had a 1995 Jetta GLX, which I like to call my car. But it had the VR6 five-speed manual, Eagle GAs."

The Volkswagen Jetta GLX is a nicer version of the Jetta. In this story, the important part is that the 1995 had a VR6 engine and a manual gearbox.

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five-speed manual

"My wife had a 1995 Jetta GLX... But it had the VR6 five-speed manual, Eagle GAs."

A five-speed manual is a car where you use a clutch and a shifter to pick gears. In this story, it’s notable because the VR6 engine was connected to a manual gearbox.

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torque

"So quick. And the thing about the VR6, tiny little six-cylinder engine in the place of a four, it developed good torque. Like, it liked to rev, but it would rip away from a stoplight, too."

Torque is the engine’s “pulling power.” More torque usually means the car feels stronger when you start moving, like from a stoplight.

Car

Volvo V40

"...ar-old consumer guide. I think it was called the V40, the S40. And it was not a Volvo heritage. It wa..."

The Volvo V40 is a smaller Volvo car model. It’s the kind of car you’d look at for normal daily driving rather than something huge. In the podcast, it’s brought up as a possible name that might have been confused with another Volvo model.

Car

Volvo S40

"...nsumer guide. I think it was called the V40, the S40. And it was not a Volvo heritage. It was actuall..."

The Volvo S40 is a compact sedan, meaning it’s a smaller four-door car with a traditional trunk. It’s mentioned in the podcast because people sometimes mix up the S40 and V40 names. The point is usually to identify the exact model being discussed.

Company

Ned Car

"It wasn't interesting. It wasn't built by Volvo. It was built by something called Ned Car in the Netherlands. Oh, wow. They sold it here to hit a price point, but it did not do their legacy well."

Ned Car is the company the hosts say built the car in the Netherlands. They bring it up to explain why the car didn’t really feel like it was made with true Volvo parts.

Company

Auto World

"So interesting piece of news out of, I was going to say Detroit, but that's not correct, out of Auto World. And that said, Antonio Filosa, the new CEO of Stellantis, has picked his four core brands."

Auto World is where the hosts say they saw the news they’re talking about. It’s basically a news source, not a car part or technology.

Company

Stellantis

"And that said, Antonio Filosa, the new CEO of Stellantis, has picked his four core brands. Yes, Tom. Tell me more about this. So Stellantis is a brand new company."

Stellantis is a big car company that was created by combining two older automakers. In this segment, they’re talking about the company’s new CEO and which main car brands it wants to focus on.

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merger of Fiat Chrysler

"Like it came together in 2022. Yeah. It’s pretty darn new, but it was the merger of Fiat Chrysler. Yeah. A company that already had too many brands."

A merger is when two companies join together to run as one. The hosts are saying Stellantis was formed by combining Fiat Chrysler with another automaker, which is why it ended up with many different brands.

Company

PSA

"And with Pujo Citroen, PSA, a company with too many brands. The net effect was a really big company with too many brands."

PSA is a big car company from France. It owned several different car brands, and that’s part of the reason people talk about the group having lots of brands.

Car

Chrysler Pacifica

"Chrysler has one product right now. I know, the Pacifica. That's it. That's it."

The Chrysler Pacifica is the main Chrysler vehicle the hosts mention. They’re pointing out that Chrysler doesn’t have many different models available at the moment.

Car

Dodge Durango

"And Dodge has two products right now. The Durango, which is a nice truck. Yeah."

The Dodge Durango is a current Dodge SUV they mention. The hosts are saying it’s one of the better-selling or more solid options in Dodge’s lineup right now.

Car

Dodge Charger

"And the Charger. And the Charger, which is not selling very well for them right now. They went from all-electric with that vehicle to gasoline-powered."

The Dodge Charger is another current Dodge model they bring up. They’re saying it’s not doing as well in sales as Dodge would like.

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gasoline-powered

"They went from all-electric with that vehicle to gasoline-powered. Have you driven the gas version?"

Gasoline-powered means the car mainly runs on a gasoline engine. The hosts are talking about a change in how that vehicle is powered.

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all-electric

"They went from all-electric with that vehicle to gasoline-powered. Have you driven the gas version?"

All-electric means the car uses electricity from a battery to move, not gasoline. The hosts are saying that this model changed from that to using gasoline instead.

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inline six

"It's got the inline... Is it inline six? Yeah, the Hurricane. Yeah, inline six."

An inline six is an engine with six cylinders lined up in a row. It’s a common engine layout, and the hosts are saying the Hurricane uses it.

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V8

"Yeah, inline six. And then we're all waiting for the V8. Which no one has confirmed."

A V8 is an engine with eight cylinders, shaped like a V. The hosts are saying they hope a V8 version is coming, but it hasn’t been confirmed.

Car

Ram 1500

"And here's part of the reason it has to be coming. Ram sales, the big Ram 1500 pickup truck sales, tanked when they went six-cylinder only."

The Ram 1500 is a pickup truck. The hosts are saying that when Ram changed what engine it offered, sales dropped because many buyers didn’t like the change.

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six-cylinder

"Ram sales, the big Ram 1500 pickup truck sales, tanked when they went six-cylinder only. Yes."

A “six-cylinder” engine has six combustion chambers. The idea here is that some truck buyers wanted the traditional V8 sound and feel, so they didn’t like the switch to only six cylinders.

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Hurricane engine

"And it's the same engine, the Hurricane engine, which by the way, lighter, more efficient. Great engine."

The “Hurricane engine” is a newer engine option being discussed for Ram trucks. They say it’s designed to be more efficient and lighter, but people still preferred the older V8 setup.

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Hemi engine

"Than the Hemi engine, but people didn't want any part of it. You know what's the only thing wrong with it?"

A “Hemi engine” is a type of V8 engine. The hosts are saying Ram built a lot of its reputation around this engine, so when it wasn’t offered, some buyers lost interest.

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V8 Hemi

"You know what's the only thing wrong with it? It's not a V8 Hemi. It's not a V8 Hemi."

“V8 Hemi” means a V8 engine with a specific combustion-chamber design. In this conversation it’s basically the engine people wanted, and when it was changed, sales dropped.

Car

Challenger Hellcats

"...ound Hemi. They built their brand around V8s and Hellcats and Red Isle. And overnight they just pulled the..."

The Dodge Challenger is a performance car, often with a big V8 engine. It’s the kind of car people associate with strong acceleration and a classic muscle-car style. The podcast brings it up when talking about the brand’s focus on those high-performance models.

Brand

Red Isle

"They built their brand around Hemi. They built their brand around V8s and Hellcats and Red Isle."

“Red Isle” sounds like a mishearing of a performance badge name. The point is that the company marketed specific high-performance versions, and that shaped what buyers expected.

Brand

DS

"I never heard of DS. DS is a luxury brand mostly available in France."

DS is a luxury car brand owned by Stellantis. It’s mainly sold in certain markets—here, the host says it’s mostly available in France.

Brand

Jeep

"The four core brands now moving forward are Jeep, Ram, Pujo, and Fiat. Okay. And that's a lot of coverage, right? You've got the first two brands get to the U.S."

Jeep is a well-known car brand, especially for SUVs. Here, they’re saying Stellantis plans to focus on Jeep as one of its main brands, especially in the U.S.

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core brands

"The four core brands now moving forward are Jeep, Ram, Pujo, and Fiat. Okay. And that's a lot of coverage, right? You've got the first two brands get to the U.S."

“Core brands” means the brands the company plans to focus on most. They’re talking about which brands Stellantis will emphasize in different parts of the world.

Brand

Pujo

"The four core brands now moving forward are Jeep, Ram, Pujo, and Fiat. Okay. And that's a lot of coverage, right? You've got the first two brands get to the U.S. So no Chrysler? ... Pujo gets you Europe and Fiat gets you a lot of emerging markets."

“Pujo” is Peugeot, a car brand. They’re saying Peugeot is aimed more at Europe, as part of Stellantis’ plan to organize brands by region.

Car

Imperials

"And they sold these big, beautiful big cars and Imperials, and it's weird to see that go. The 300 was around forever, too."

The Chrysler Imperial was Chrysler’s big, upscale car line. It’s brought up here as an example of the brand’s older luxury lineup.

Car

300

"The 300 was around forever, too. I didn't realize, and I don't know that this sold well, there was a 300 variant in the early 70s."

The Chrysler 300 is a long-running large sedan model from Chrysler. The hosts are saying it’s been around for a long time and has had different versions over the years.

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livery business

"If they keep Chrysler, they should probably do a sedan version of the Charger for Chrysler. And you know what they might get is some livery business, too."

A “livery” is the special paint/graphics on a vehicle. The hosts mean Chrysler could sell cars with those custom looks for fleets or special purposes.

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off-road diesel

"[558.3s] Are you familiar with off-road diesel? [561.7s] Yes. [563.7s] At least I'm thinking it's at the farmer version."

Off-road diesel is regular diesel, but it’s meant for vehicles that don’t drive on public highways. Because it avoids highway taxes, it’s usually dyed so authorities can tell if someone is using it illegally in a street car.

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federal highway taxes

"[568.0s] It's agricultural diesel that is not subject to federal highway taxes. [572.3s] So if you like, I think it's red or something? [574.5s] Yep."

There are taxes on fuel when it’s used for driving on public roads. Off-road diesel is treated differently so it doesn’t pay those highway-related taxes.

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dyed red

"[574.5s] Yep. [574.7s] Okay, it's dyed red. [575.6s] Oh, currently it's dyed blue."

Some diesel is dyed a specific color so it can be identified later. If someone uses that dyed fuel in a regular street car, it can be detected.

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dyed blue

"[575.6s] Oh, currently it's dyed blue. [577.5s] Oh, blue, okay. [578.1s] But it's funny because I watched a video."

Sometimes off-road diesel is dyed blue instead of red. The dye is there so authorities can tell it apart from the diesel meant for regular driving.

Car

Mitsubishi Outlander

"They have two subcompacts. One compact. The compact is the Outlander."

The Mitsubishi Outlander is a Mitsubishi SUV. It’s the bigger, more family-oriented crossover compared with the smaller Mitsubishi models mentioned right after it.

Car

Mitsubishi Outlander Sport

"Then there's the Outlander Sport and the Eclipse Cross. Okay. And a lot of Mitsubishi loyalists are really upset about the use of Eclipse."

The Mitsubishi Outlander Sport is a smaller SUV than the Outlander. It’s one of Mitsubishi’s “smaller” crossover models.

Car

Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross

"Then there's the Outlander Sport and the Eclipse Cross. Okay. And a lot of Mitsubishi loyalists are really upset about the use of Eclipse."

The Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross is a smaller SUV. The hosts are saying some long-time Mitsubishi fans don’t like that the “Eclipse” name is now used for this type of car.

Car

Mitsubishi Eclipse

"Because the Eagle talent that I had was the Eagle version of the Mitsubishi Eclipse and [637.3s] also the Pumeth laser. [638.2s] Remind people about Diamond Star and those cars."

The Mitsubishi Eclipse is a sporty compact car. Here, they’re talking about the turbo versions and how the drivetrain made it feel quick.

Concept

Diamond Star

"Remind people about Diamond Star and those cars. [642.2s] Yeah. [642.9s] So they were built in normal Illinois. [645.5s] It was a collaboration of Chrysler and Mitsubishi."

Diamond Star was a partnership between Chrysler and Mitsubishi to build certain cars together. The hosts are reminding listeners that these Eclipse-based models came out of that joint production.

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turbo

"[652.9s] Oh, yeah. [653.4s] It was great. [654.4s] It had a lot of power. [655.3s] The turbo versions were 200 horsepower, just under 200 horsepower."

A turbo is a device that helps the engine make more power. It does this by pushing extra air into the engine so it can burn more fuel efficiently.

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all-wheel drive

"[660.0s] And then when they came out with all-wheel drive, it was one of the first compact sports [664.8s] cars that had all-wheel drive. [667.4s] And they were crazy. [669.0s] It was a great all-wheel drive."

All-wheel drive means the car can send power to all four tires. That usually helps it grip the road better and feel more stable when accelerating.

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manual only

"[669.0s] It was a great all-wheel drive. [669.9s] You could, I could, it was a manual only on the turbo. [673.0s] So you could rev that thing to 5,000 RPMs, dump the clutch, and you were off."

“Manual only” means you had to shift gears yourself with a clutch pedal and gear stick. The hosts are saying that the turbo version was set up to be driven in a very hands-on way.

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dump the clutch

"[669.9s] You could, I could, it was a manual only on the turbo. [673.0s] So you could rev that thing to 5,000 RPMs, dump the clutch, and you were off. [677.7s] That was peak Mitsubishi."

“Dump the clutch” means you let the clutch out really fast to get moving quickly. It’s a more aggressive launch technique that can make the car jump forward.

Car

Mitsubishi Galant

"You could get a turbo all-wheel drive Galant with a manual. Yeah. For a while. And that's what, I think, how we remember Mitsubishi."

The Mitsubishi Galant was a Mitsubishi car line that came in different versions. Here they’re talking about a more performance-focused setup: turbo power, all-wheel drive, and a manual transmission.

Car

Mitsubishi Gt Mitsubishi

"Yeah, because then they made the Dodge Stealth for Dodge, which was the 3000 GT Mitsubishi. Forgot about that, because that's good stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I knew someone who had the Stealth."

The Mitsubishi 3000 GT is a sporty Mitsubishi coupe from the 1990s. In this discussion, they’re saying the Dodge Stealth was basically the same idea—just sold under Dodge instead of Mitsubishi.

Car

Dodge Stealth

"Yeah, because then they made the Dodge Stealth for Dodge, which was the 3000 GT Mitsubishi. Forgot about that, because that's good stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I knew someone who had the Stealth. Yeah. My father had one. In fact, he still has it. He didn't have the Stealth Turbo. I think the Stealth could be had, the Dodge could be had with a two-valve V6, 30, what is it? There was the 24-valve V6. The V6, 32-valve V6 twin-turbo. And then there was the standard V6 without the twin-turbo. Yeah, that's what my buddy had. And it was still a really great car."

The Dodge Stealth is a sporty Dodge coupe from the 1990s. It shared a lot of engineering with Mitsubishi’s 3000GT, and it could come with different V6 engines, including turbo versions.

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valve per cylinder

"Yeah. Did I say 32-valve V6? 24-valve. 24-valve. Yeah. That's confusing. We would be so casual in discussing this, but it's really four-valve per cylinder."

An engine cylinder has openings controlled by valves. “Valve per cylinder” tells you how many of those openings each cylinder has, and it can change how efficiently the engine runs.

Company

Rivian

"I was just going to mention something I forgot. Oh, the Mitsubishi factory in normal Illinois is now the Rivian factory. Yes, yes. So they're cranking those out."

Rivian is a company that makes electric vehicles. The hosts are saying a Mitsubishi factory location in Illinois is now used by Rivian to build EVs.

Rivian R2
Official manufacturer press image
Car

Rivian R2

"[798.3s] It looks so good. [799.8s] That's the R2. [801.7s] Yep. [802.0s] And there's the R3 coming."

The Rivian R2 is a smaller electric Rivian vehicle that’s meant to be easier to live with than their bigger models. The hosts think it looks great and hope it can handle rough roads too.

Car

Rivian R3

"[802.0s] And there's the R3 coming. [803.1s] That looks delightful. [804.1s] Yeah. [804.7s] One of those cute mobiles."

The Rivian R3 is a future smaller electric Rivian model. The conversation frames it as something that could still be fun and capable, even if it’s not as big as their other cars.

Concept

quarterly results

"[829.6s] This will get them through launching their smaller vehicle. [831.5s] And then the quarterly results come out and they lost two or three billion dollars."

“Quarterly results” are a company’s financial performance reports released every three months. The hosts point out that even with large investments, Rivian’s quarterly losses can still be significant.

Concept

forensic accounting

"Like, I don't know. Eat some forensic accounting. Yeah."

Forensic accounting is like detective work for money. It looks through financial records to figure out where funds went and whether anything shady happened.

Topic

Tesla earnings call

"But after the quiz, I did want to talk about listening to the Tesla earnings call, something I've never done before. And I cheated."

An earnings call is when a company talks to investors about how it did financially. It often includes a Q&A where people ask questions about the business.

Brand

Bodie Grimm's Kilowatt podcast

"I listened to someone else's podcast, Bodie Grimm's Kilowatt podcast, and he did an analysis of the call."

Kilowatt is a podcast by Bodie Grimm that focuses on electric vehicles and the EV industry. The hosts reference it as a source for an analysis of Tesla’s earnings call.

Car

Outback Subaru Wilderness

"So, all righty. I just drove, I just drove the Subaru Wilderness. Yes."

The Subaru Outback is a car with extra ground clearance and a wagon-style body, made for everyday driving and tougher road conditions. Some versions are set up for more rugged use, like the “Wilderness” trim mentioned in the podcast. It’s brought up because it’s a capable, practical choice.

Car

Forester

"Now, for people who aren't keeping up with the Forester, the Forester was redesigned last year, but the Wilderness version wasn't redesigned until this year."

The Subaru Forester is a popular family SUV/crossover. In this segment, they’re pointing out that the regular Forester got updated first, and the Wilderness version came later.

Concept

redesigned

"Now, for people who aren't keeping up with the Forester, the Forester was redesigned last year, but the Wilderness version wasn't redesigned until this year."

When a car is “redesigned,” it usually gets a bigger update than just small changes. Different trims can be updated at different times, so one version may feel newer than another.

Term

CVT

"Tell us what a CVT is real quick. It's a continuous variable transmission, so it's got one bungee cord gear. And it sounds like a big rubber band under your hood, and it's whiny, and it's absolutely horrible."

CVT means the car doesn’t use a set of gears like a normal automatic. It can “blend” between ratios smoothly, so the engine can sound like it’s revving up and down even when you’re just accelerating.

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stepped gear automatic

"The CVT is not as responsive to throttle inputs and not as fun to drive as a stepped gear automatic, or God forbid, a manual, a proper manual."

Some automatics shift between separate gears. With a stepped-gear automatic, the car picks a gear instead of smoothly changing ratios all the time, which can feel quicker to respond.

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towing

"And also it's kind of surprised where the standard is only towing is 1,500, but the wilderness is 3,500. That's a huge difference."

Towing is the maximum weight the car is allowed to pull with a trailer. They’re saying the Wilderness version can tow much more than the standard version.

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final drive ratio

"I think part of that comes from revisions to, I don't know if it's the transmission or the gear, like the final drive ratio."

Final drive ratio is a gearing setting that helps determine how hard the car pulls versus how fast it can go. If it’s changed, the car can feel better at tasks like towing because the engine and wheels work together differently.

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shift

"And if you feel the engine rev, you hear the engine rev, and you want a shift. Yes. And there ain't no shift coming."

Here, “shift” means the car changing gears. Some transmissions shift in a way you can feel clearly, while others (like CVTs) feel smoother and may not “thunk” into a new gear.

Term

fake ratios

"And if you play with the paddle shifters in some of those cars, which is weird that CVTs have them, there are fake ratios. They're fake."

“Fake ratios” means the car is pretending to shift like a normal automatic. The CVT is still changing smoothly, but it’s giving you the feeling of steps.

Term

fuel economy

"Just it's a little bit quicker. Fuel economy is not great. I've got about 23 miles per gallon, which is probably the bottom of the class."

Fuel economy is how far the car can go on a gallon of gas. If it’s low, you’ll stop for gas more frequently.

Term

miles per gallon

"Fuel economy is not great. I've got about 23 miles per gallon, which is probably the bottom of the class. Yeah."

MPG tells you how many miles you can drive on one gallon of gas. Higher MPG usually means you spend less on fuel.

Term

180 horsepower

"That is actually for a 180 horsepower car. That's not good, actually."

Horsepower is a rough measure of how much power the engine makes. They’re basically saying the car doesn’t get good gas mileage even though it’s not a super powerful vehicle.

Term

penultimate trim level

"So the vehicle I drove was 42 grand, a little high for this vehicle. It's the penultimate trim level, but you can do one less."

Trim level is the version of the car with certain features. “Penultimate” means it’s the second-most expensive version, just below the top one.

Car

Subaru Crosstrek

"Okay. She's a 10 year old Subaru Crosstrek with 60,000 miles on it that has never given us a minute of trouble. Oh, no, those are great cars. Why would we buy another car?"

They’re talking about their current Subaru crossover. The point is that it’s been trouble-free for them, so they’re questioning why they’d replace it.

Company

IC cars

"When we come back, we talked to Carl Brower, he's the executive analyst at IC cars about electric vehicle, used electric vehicle sales."

They’re referencing a company called IC cars. The guest works there and studies car-market trends, especially for used electric vehicles.

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electric vehicle

"When we come back, we talked to Carl Brower, he's the executive analyst at IC cars about electric vehicle, used electric vehicle sales."

An electric vehicle is a car that runs on electricity from a battery instead of gasoline. This segment is about how used electric cars are selling.

Term

available rear seat entertainment system

"Seen back in the Sienna with an available rear seat entertainment system."

This is a built-in option that lets people in the back watch videos or listen to audio. It’s usually done with screens and media controls.

Topic

car prices

"On the phone with us, speaking of car prices. Yes. Carl Prower."

They’re talking about how much cars cost right now and why prices are moving. That matters because it affects what you can afford and what deals are available.

Term

fuel efficiency

"...filter on everything from price to range, distance from your house to fuel efficiency to brands, models..."

Fuel efficiency is how “thrifty” a car is—how far it can go on a certain amount of fuel. Higher efficiency usually means cheaper driving.

Term

odometer reading

"...brands, models, odometer reading, and filter on all these things to find cars..."

The odometer reading is how many miles the car has been driven. It helps you estimate how much wear the car may have.

Concept

predicted lifespan

"...unique things that no other sites have like predicted lifespan for cars, which can be pretty helpful when you're looking at two or three of these cars..."

Predicted lifespan is a guess at how long a car will keep running reliably. The idea here is to help you compare cars by how long they might last.

Concept

depreciation

"Good example, colors, which color holds their value the best, which color has higher depreciation. [1439.2s] We have a study for that along with a lot of other."

Depreciation just means the car is worth less as time goes on. They’re saying some paint colors can make that drop in value faster or slower.

Car

Chevy Colorado

"Meanwhile, I just saw an orange Chevy Colorado. [1465.2s] That's cool. [1465.9s] More of those, please."

The Chevrolet Colorado is a mid-size pickup truck. They’re using it as an example of a cool, less-common color choice (orange).

Concept

EV prices

"...the fact that EV prices had been going down. Used EV prices had been going down, but used Tesla prices were on the climb. What was that about?"

They’re talking about how electric-car prices are changing. Even if EVs as a whole get cheaper, the used prices can move differently depending on incentives and what buyers want.

Concept

incentive to buy EVs

"...we've lost some incentive to buy EVs from the government and then we've theoretically gained some back to buy EVs from our local fuel station pricing board."

They mean government programs that make EVs cheaper to buy. If those discounts or credits change, more or fewer people buy EVs, and that can change prices.

Concept

market share on the used market

"...But they went up in terms of market share on the used market, how many cars were like"

They’re talking about how big a slice of the used-car market EVs are taking. If EVs gain market share, it means more people are buying EVs compared with other used cars.

Term

Hybrid

"[1590.0s] Hybrid's been up by, hybrid's went up by 41.8% almost three times the rate that EVs went [1596.2s] up."

A hybrid is a car that uses two power sources—gasoline and electricity. It can switch between them to improve efficiency.

Concept

plug-in

"[1603.5s] And that's that, that tether, you know, that you, you have to break from the fuel world [1609.5s] and add the other tether to the, to the plug, you know, literally a tether, a cord that [1615.2s] you have to be able to plug in."

“Plug-in” refers to vehicles that must be connected to an external power source to recharge their battery (typically plug-in hybrids and battery-electric vehicles). The speaker is contrasting the “fuel world” (gas stations) with the “plug-in” world (charging at home or public chargers).

Concept

Q1, first quarter of 2026

"[1665.9s] And in the last three months, Q1, first quarter of 2026, they were holding their prices better."

Q1 means the first three months of the year. They’re saying Tesla’s prices held up better during that time.

Term

Q1.25 to Q1.26

"They were just not dropping from like a year earlier, you know, and their prices had gone down from Q1.25 to Q1.26, their year over year price change of a Tesla EV, 0.1%."

“Q1.25 to Q1.26” means the first three months of 2025 compared to the first three months of 2026. It helps show whether prices are rising or falling over that same part of the year.

Term

year over year price change

"...down from Q1.25 to Q1.26, their year over year price change of a Tesla EV, 0.1%. We're going to call that flat."

“Year over year” means “compared to the same time last year.” It’s a simple way to tell if prices are trending up or down over time.

Term

flat

"...their year over year price change of a Tesla EV, 0.1%. We're going to call that flat. And the non-Tesla EVs down 10.3%, a 10% drop."

Here, “flat” means prices didn’t really move much compared to last year. It’s basically “about the same.”

Concept

EV pricing

"You can't look at EV pricing and assume that that's every EV. Tesla's still the bulk of the market and that makes EVs look one way."

They’re talking about how EV prices change over time. Their main point is that Tesla’s pricing trend doesn’t automatically tell you what every other EV brand is doing.

Concept

filter Tesla and separate them out

"Tesla's still the bulk of the market and that makes EVs look one way. When you filter Tesla and separate them out from the rest, you get a better picture of what the non-EV Tesla market is and the Tesla market is."

They’re saying: don’t mix Tesla with every other EV when you analyze prices. Tesla can pull the overall numbers around, so separating it gives a clearer picture of what non-Tesla EVs are doing.

Brand

Hyundai

"...they're like, they don't even know that Hyundai makes EVs. And it's like, are you kidding me?"

Hyundai sells EVs too, not only gas cars. The point here is that some people don’t realize non-Tesla brands offer electric models.

Concept

gas prices are high

"If you're thinking right now that gas prices are high and you were you'd have to have already been ready to buy an EV, I think, you're not just going to jump into this because gas prices went up a buck..."

They’re saying higher gas prices can push people toward EVs, but it doesn’t always make people jump immediately. Buying an EV is still a major choice.

Car

Tesla Model 3

"Also, I don't think people remember Model 3 or Model Y and they certainly don't remember like EV6, you know, or Iodic 5."

The Tesla Model 3 is an all-electric car made by Tesla. It’s one of the most popular EVs, and it’s a big part of why EVs became more common.

Car

Tesla Model Y

"Also, I don't think people remember Model 3 or Model Y and they certainly don't remember like EV6, you know, or Iodic 5."

The Tesla Model Y is an all-electric SUV from Tesla. It’s one of Tesla’s biggest sellers, so people often compare it to other EVs when talking about the market.

Car

Kia EV6

"Also, I don't think people remember Model 3 or Model Y and they certainly don't remember like EV6, you know, or Iodic 5."

The Kia EV6 is an all-electric crossover SUV. It’s the kind of EV people compare to Tesla when they’re shopping for a practical daily driver.

Concept

stigma

"Carol, do you think the stigma is off of Tesla now or some of the stigma? You know, I mean, I think, I think funny, I think there's less stigma on EVs than ever."

“Stigma” here means a negative reputation that makes some people hesitant to buy. The discussion is about whether that bad reputation for EVs (and Tesla) is going away.

Term

margins

"But again, it's like, well, that makes for a great headline and a pithy quote, but it's not really true. I'd rather be honest with you guys. So then I have to tell them the truth. It's like, no, I'm sure he's lost some some customers by thinking about it, gained some customers. And I think we're talking edge cases here, margins."

“Margins” means how much money is left as profit after paying the costs. If sales get discounted or demand shifts, margins can shrink.

Term

batteries

"You know, we know the batteries last. There might be little problems with them, but they're largely proven."

In an electric car, the battery is what stores the electricity that drives the car. The hosts are saying that, based on lots of cars already on the road, the battery problems people feared haven’t been widespread.

Concept

EV market

"It's a tough world to enter the EV market and expect to do well and pay your bills with it."

The EV market is the business of making and selling electric cars. The hosts are saying it’s tough for companies to do well and still make enough money to keep the business running.

Brand

Honda

"[1928.3s] Honda goes all in on EVs and gets it wrong. [1931.2s] They're in big trouble."

They’re discussing Honda’s decision to focus heavily on electric cars. The point is that the EV plan didn’t work out the way Honda hoped.

Concept

write down

"[1935.0s] you know what, we're going to take this much of a write down, as they say, [1937.6s] which essentially is a loss if we bail on EVs right now."

A write down is when a company admits something it invested in isn’t worth as much as it thought. Here, it’s treated like a loss related to EV plans.

Brand

GM

"[1955.1s] And then Cadillac and GM is kind of more like the Toyota situation. [1962.2s] That's one of the divisions that's kind of struggled a bit within GM,"

GM is the company being discussed. The point is that not all of GM’s brands/divisions are doing equally well, which affects how the company handles EV plans.

Brand

Cadillac

"[1955.1s] And then Cadillac and GM is kind of more like the Toyota situation. [1958.4s] Again, Cadillac isn't a super high volume seller."

Cadillac is brought up as a GM brand that doesn’t sell huge numbers. The speaker is using it to explain why EV moves can hit some brands harder than others.

Brand

Mini

"[1970.5s] I've said, notice the brands that said they were going all in EV, [1973.6s] the traditional brands that started. [1975.7s] You know, I didn't hear that from Chevy or Ford or Toyota. [1978.8s] I heard it from Mini and Jaguar."

Mini is mentioned as an example of a brand that committed strongly to electric cars. The speaker is using it to make a broader point about which automakers were aggressive with EV plans.

Brand

Jaguar

"[1978.8s] I heard it from Mini and Jaguar. [1982.6s] No, I'm not painting a picture or anything."

Jaguar is brought up as another example of a brand that pushed hard toward electric cars. The speaker uses it to compare different automakers’ EV strategies.

Concept

EV

"But Toyota was a, they really didn't jump into the EV right away... Where's your EVs?"

EV means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity from a battery instead of (mostly) gasoline.

Concept

dragged their feet

"Right, they dragged their feet. You know, they dragged their feet."

“Dragged their feet” just means they were slow to move forward. In this case, it means Toyota didn’t jump into electric cars right away.

Concept

activist investors

"They were activist investors on their butts about not doing more about EVs."

Activist investors are investors who pressure a company to change its plans. Here, they’re portrayed as pushing Toyota to invest more in electric cars.

Concept

market appropriate

"And now they're coming out in a very measured way... It feels market appropriate."

They mean Toyota’s timing for electric cars felt like the right move for the market. The idea is they waited for the situation to be clearer before spending heavily.

Concept

$4 billion

"...before they put $4 billion in investment into it. So I think that was a smart move."

They mention a big dollar amount to show how serious the EV investment would be. The point is Toyota didn’t want to spend that kind of money until it felt like the business made sense.

Car

Ford F-150 Lightning

"And until COVID, until COVID, when Ford launched the F-150 Lightning, that seemed like it. We had just lit the EV fuse and we were going to be all electric in six months."

The Ford F-150 Lightning is Ford’s electric pickup truck. The hosts are saying that when it launched, expectations were high, but the real world brought problems like shortages and higher prices.

Term

EV fuse

"And until COVID, until COVID, when Ford launched the F-150 Lightning, that seemed like it. We had just lit the EV fuse and we were going to be all electric in six months."

“EV fuse” is a figure of speech. It means the point where people thought electric cars were about to really take off.

Term

supply chain shortages

"And it seemed like, and then COVID happened and supply chain shortages happened, and Ford kept raising the price of the F-150, like ridiculously."

Supply chain shortages mean it was hard to get the parts and materials needed to build cars. When that happens, production slows down and prices often go up.

Term

charging station

"Also, I called about installing a charging station, and it was six grand, and I don't know. Yeah."

A charging station is what you use to charge an electric car. The point here is that setting one up at home can cost money and take effort.

Car

Ford Ltd

"The Olds will be a Cutlass or the Ford LTD? ... LTD would in 1970, it was a very popular fleet car."

The Ford LTD was a Ford car that many organizations used for fleets, including police cars. Here, it’s being compared to the Oldsmobile Cutlass to see which one sold better in the mid-1970s.

Concept

fleet car

"Yeah. ... LTD would in 1970, it was a very popular fleet car."

A fleet car is a car bought in bulk by an organization, like a police department. These cars are chosen for practicality and reliability because they’re used a lot.

Car

Ford Escort

"Oldsmobile Cutlass or Ford Escort? Oh, that's a good, that's a tough one because at one point, I don't remember what year,"

The Ford Escort is a compact car model from Ford that was sold in huge numbers. They’re using it as a “which one sold more?” kind of trivia comparison.

Car

Oldsmobile Cutlass

"Oldsmobile Cutlass or Ford Escort? Oh, that's a good, that's a tough one because at one point, I don't remember what year, the Ford Escort was like the number one selling car on the planet."

The Oldsmobile Cutlass was a popular American car model. The hosts mention it because it was also sold in very large numbers.

Term

number one selling car on the planet

"Oh, that's a good, that's a tough one because at one point, I don't remember what year, the Ford Escort was like the number one selling car on the planet. Right."

They’re saying the Ford Escort was once the top-selling car worldwide. It’s a sales-history point they’re using to compare against another model.

Brand

Chevrolet

"[2619.8s] By a lot. [2620.4s] Yeah. [2620.7s] Chevy was just coming online. [2622.2s] Oh, 806,000 Model T's and a couple of other things and 146,000 Chevy's."

Chevrolet (often called “Chevy”) is a car brand from the U.S. In the conversation, they’re talking about when Chevrolet started showing up in production/availability.

Car

Ford Model T

"[2620.7s] Chevy was just coming online. [2622.2s] Oh, 806,000 Model T's and a couple of other things and 146,000 Chevy's. [2630.5s] So Chevy just coming online."

The Ford Model T was one of the first cars made in huge numbers, helping make car ownership more common. They’re mentioning it because it had very large production numbers.

Car

Oldsmobile Curved Dash

"Yeah. The curved dash holds raking them in. 3924."

The Oldsmobile Curved Dash is an early Oldsmobile car known for having a dashboard with a curved shape. It’s a historic model that people talk about because it stands out visually. The podcast mentions it as a specific Oldsmobile example tied to that distinctive design.

Company

General Motors

"[2677.9s] But Oldsmobile wasn't part of General Motors back then, was it? [2680.0s] No. [2680.4s] Yeah."

General Motors is a big company that makes cars and has owned several different car brands. Here, they’re talking about which brands belonged to GM at different times.

Concept

Oldsmobile was killed

"[2680.9s] So. [2681.3s] And it was at the time, I think that when Oldsmobile was killed, it was the second oldest car brand. [2689.8s] Yeah."

When someone says a brand was “killed,” they mean the company stopped making cars under that brand name. It’s usually because the brand wasn’t selling well or the company decided to focus on fewer brands.

Car

Kia Rio

"...but I thought it was a truck. It might have been Rio, which was the way it was set up by Oldsmobile. ..."

The Kia Rio is a small car meant for getting around day to day, especially in the city. It’s usually chosen because it’s practical and typically costs less than bigger cars. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as a possible match for a name people might confuse with something else.

Car

Toyota RAV4

"[2709.3s] Best selling non pickup truck of 2025. [2714.0s] Honda CRV or Toyota RAV4. [2715.7s] Oh, the RAV4. ... [2721.5s] 479,000 RAV4. ... [2740.2s] RAV4 now hybrid only for 2026."

The Toyota RAV4 is a very popular SUV. The hosts say it sold a huge number of units and that the 2026 version is switching to hybrid-only.

Car

Honda Crv

"[2709.3s] Best selling non pickup truck of 2025. [2714.0s] Honda CRV or Toyota RAV4. [2715.7s] Oh, the RAV4. ... [2730.3s] And then the Honda CRV, 404,000."

The Honda CR-V is a popular SUV. In this segment, they’re talking about how many are sold and that a big portion of new ones are now hybrids.

Car

2025 Roma Spider Ferrari

"I got some time into a 19, 2025 Roma Spider Ferrari. Ferrari. Yes. Roma Spider. Yes. The Roma, probably the prettiest of Ferraris to come along in a while."

Ferrari’s Roma Spider is a fancy, high-end sports car from Ferrari. “Spider” means it has an open-top design, so you get the wind-in-your-hair experience while still driving a supercar.

Brand

Peniferrini

"Yeah. Yeah. And it's not like after Ferrari stopped using Peniferrini, which was their kind of go-to design job."

Pininfarina is a famous Italian design company that has helped design cars for brands like Ferrari. The host is talking about whether Ferrari’s styling direction changed after that design partnership ended.

Concept

supercars

"Because I've complained about supercars in general."

A “supercar” is a very expensive, very fast sports car—usually built for performance more than everyday driving. The speaker is basically saying they’ve had complaints about that whole category.

Concept

wind tunnel

"A lot of it is downforce designed by, you know, the wind tunnel. So there's a, but. It's functional."

A wind tunnel is like a giant indoor fan setup used to study how air flows around a car. Engineers use it to figure out how the car’s shape affects grip and efficiency.

Concept

downforce

"A lot of it is downforce designed by, you know, the wind tunnel. So there's a, but. It's functional."

Downforce is what makes the car feel more planted to the road. At speed, the car’s shape can push the tires harder onto the pavement so it grips better.

Car

Roma

"But I love about the Roma though. It takes some of that, but it also brings back some classic lines... And one of the things about it too, not a lot of ducting and stuff like that."

The Ferrari Roma is a Ferrari meant for comfortable, stylish driving rather than racing. The hosts are saying it still has some performance/aero ideas, but it looks more classic and isn’t covered in extreme track-style vents.

Concept

GT

"Yeah. Apart from the simplicity, it's, the car you drove was kind of a GT. Yes. It's not an over the top sports car."

GT means “grand touring,” basically a fast car that’s also meant to be comfortable for longer drives. The hosts are saying it’s quick, but it’s not trying to be a full-on race car.

Concept

track beast

"It's not an over the top sports car. It's not a track beast. It's, it's more a little bit more laid back, but it's still fast as hell."

“Track beast” just means a car built to be really intense on a race track. It’s usually set up for hard driving and fast laps, not just relaxed cruising.

Concept

daily car

"my daily car is a BMW M2, which is no slouch. You know, it's, it's, it's got a lot of horsepower. It's quick. It's, it's, it's very handled. Yeah. Yeah. I have driven the M2."

A “daily car” is the car you drive most days for normal life—work, errands, and commuting. It’s the one you rely on, not a special weekend toy.

Car

BMW M2

"my daily car is a BMW M2, which is no slouch. You know, it's, it's, it's got a lot of horsepower. It's quick. It's, it's, it's very handled."

The BMW M2 is BMW’s sporty “M” version of a small coupe. The hosts are saying it’s already a fast, fun daily driver, but other cars can make it feel less special after you experience them.

Term

stopping power

"Just the brakes on the Ferrari, like unbelievable, the stopping power, the feel, just unbelievable. And then when you get back in my other car, I'm like, God, these brakes aren't as good as I thought they were."

“Stopping power” means how well a car can slow down when you hit the brakes. If it has great stopping power, it feels like it stops quickly and confidently.

Term

feel

"Just the brakes on the Ferrari, like unbelievable, the stopping power, the feel, just unbelievable. And then when you get back in my other car, I'm like, God, these brakes aren't as good as I thought they were."

“Feel” is how the brakes communicate with you—like how the pedal responds and how confident it makes you feel when slowing down. It’s about feedback, not just raw stopping distance.

Term

options

"Ferrari is like with options, it's like almost 400 grand. Wow. So. I mean, the spider starts at, I think like 270, but you know."

Here, “options” means extra features you can add to a car when you order it. Things like special trim or extra equipment can make the car cost a lot more.

Car

Ferrari 400

".... Ferrari is like with options, it's like almost 400 grand. Wow."

The Ferrari 400 is an older Ferrari model. The podcast is mentioning it in terms of cost, suggesting that some versions can be extremely expensive. It’s brought up to illustrate how pricey certain Ferrari cars can get.

Term

S

"Oh, a 911. It's not an S. It's not anything based transmission. 60 grand."

“S” here means a higher trim level. When they say it’s “not an S,” they’re saying it’s the standard version rather than the upgraded one.

Car

Porsche 911

"Oh, a 911. It's not an S. It's not anything based transmission. 60 grand."

They mention a Porsche 911. They’re clarifying it’s not the “S” version, which is a more expensive/stronger trim level than the base 911.

Term

carbon fiber

"This car alone had over a hundred thousand hours in carbon fiber. So I mean, it's it's it can get absolutely insane."

Carbon fiber is a special material that’s very strong but much lighter than steel. Some cars use it for parts or trim to make the car feel more “high-tech” and sometimes to save weight.

Car

Audi SQ8

"Like I just drove an Audi was an SQ8. I assume that's real carbon fiber. But maybe not."

The Audi SQ8 is a sportier, higher-performance version of Audi’s Q8 SUV. The conversation uses it as an example of a “real” looking, high-end German SUV before they start talking about drivetrain performance.

Term

ZF transmission

"So the DM2 has a ZF transmission, right? The best automatic transmission you can buy today."

ZF is a company that builds car transmissions (the gearbox that changes gears). The host is saying their automatic transmission is fast and smooth compared with others.

Term

automatic transmission

"The best automatic transmission you can buy today. That's what they say. Okay. And it's in everything."

An automatic transmission is the gearbox that changes gears by itself. You just accelerate and brake, and the car handles the shifting.

Term

dual clutch

"No, it's a dual clutch. Oh, it's dual clutch? Yeah. So basically it's a manual transmission with an automated clutch pedal."

A dual-clutch transmission uses two clutches instead of one. It can line up the next gear ahead of time, so the car changes gears very fast.

Term

manual transmission with an automated clutch pedal

"Oh, it's dual clutch? Yeah. So basically it's a manual transmission with an automated clutch pedal. So it is lightning."

It’s like a manual gearbox, but you don’t push a clutch pedal yourself. Computers handle the clutch for you so shifting can be quicker and more consistent.

Term

range of motion

"[3252.1s] and give myself more range of motion. [3254.4s] And the Ferrari, that's not a problem. [3255.9s] The armrest in the door and the armrest in the center console"

They mean how much you can comfortably move your arms while driving. If the armrests or door/center console are in the way, you can’t move as freely.

Term

premium gas

"[3282.2s] So I have to ask the question. [3283.4s] I think everyone is thinking. [3285.6s] Does it use a premium gas? [3287.4s] Yes, it does."

Premium gas is a higher-grade gasoline. Some cars need it to run smoothly and avoid engine knocking.

Term

thirsty

"[3288.5s] And it uses a lot of it. [3290.3s] This thing is so thirsty. [3292.0s] I find myself like every couple of days"

“Thirsty” is slang for high fuel consumption—how quickly a car burns gas. When a driver says a car is thirsty, they’re describing frequent refueling or low fuel economy.

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