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Stolen Thrills
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Exploring the evolving landscape of car ownership, this episode delves into the trends of car shows, project cars, and the rising popularity of retro vehicles. Host Dave Polach shares insights on the shift in consumer behavior, with younger generations opting for practicality over flashy cars. The discussion also touches on the impact of internet fame on car culture, highlighting the reckless behavior of some influencers. With a focus on affordability, the episode concludes with a look at potential future trends in car manufacturing aimed at making vehicles more accessible.
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car shows
project cars
retro vehicles
internet fame
affordability
consumer behavior
car ownership trends
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Chevrolet Corvette
Dodge Charger
Honda CRX
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Let's Talkcarsradio dot com. Now here's the host of Let's Talk Cars Radio,
Dave Polage. Happy Saturday, America. You're listening Let's Talk Cars Radio on
Freedom Radio. I'm your host, Big Davpa, hand out camera, chaos
and abb Hey, guys, it is a great day for a radio show.
It's a great day for our car show. Hopefully where you guys are
at, you guys are enjoying the weather. Summer is coming quick. What's
the official start of summer? Is it like the first couple of days in
June or something like that? Is actually what the official started of summer is,
because I'll tell you what it is. Ramping up quick with a lot
of different car shows, I've been telling you guys. So we ended up
out of a real life's car show last week. Nate and I did a
good show, good turnout, a bunch of cars out there, a lot of good people. It was a good time, high out, hand out
a bunch of free stuff. So if you guys missed it, you have
to catch it to the next one. We like handing out a bunch of
free stuff. It happens all the time. Our sponsors give us a lot
of cool things to give away. But I saw a couple of cars I
haven't seen in this area, which is always cool. I like when new
stuff kind of comes in. I'm seeing a lot of people's projects are starting
to get finished off, which is kind of cool. You know, people
have been working on for over a year and now they're done, and now they're out the shows and get take a look and see what everybody does.
It always inspires me to like, I don't know things I want to do, like you know I see I'm like, oh that's a good idea or starting new project. Yeah, well, I got to finished ones I have
unfortunately, Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna finish the ones I have. But
so if you guys seen this, uh, the new trend, the retro vets, Like they're different years, so they go like the ones out of like sixty seven to like eighty two and then the like nine early well late eighties, early ninety models, and they called retrovets. It's a new trend.
That's like kind of I think they're cool. I think I kin don't
want to build one, Like I know, I got some other stuff I gotta finish first, but I like the way they look. I just it's
a good throwback to like the eighties. And like I said, I know
they're using like the very early ninety models and doing it with it two, but it's just it's a cool look. It's really kind of a fatic.
Like you, Nathaniel I talked about like it'd be cool to build like a drift car, right that you could just street drive but still have the drifting capability to it as a street two forties per se, because he likes the two forties. But I'm like looking at this like retro vet look, and
I'm thinking, man, that would be a really cool car just to to build and sling around corners you don't have to worry about like you're gonna make it nice, something wrong. You're not gonna trash the car, but to
have something that was kind of cool looking, but you still don't mind throw around, to throw around a little bit, like I can get with that, because that's where Nathaniel and I kind of we separate. Like I like
drift and everything like that. I just a lot of the cars that we
use, like in the in drifting, I just I don't like the cars, like you know, I've seen some cool ones, but most of the stuff, I'm just like, Okay, well, everybody's got I think my problem is if I see something, everybody's got one. Like so when we
went to a couple of different drift events two forty, that's just everybody's everybody has one, Like I mean, it's just that's that's like the drift car for everybody. It seems like everybody's got one. Now. When we were
in Vegas at the drift event, uh, one of the two of the cars I really did like were two eighty z's that were set up for drifting, and I just thought that that was pretty cool. I was like,
Okay, that's I hadn't seen a whole lot. I'm sure like you guys
go oh, you're not going to right drift events. I'm sure that's for
but they're someone's I've gone to those. Weren't the car a choice? So
now keep in mind there it was LS Fest, so they were LS driven cars, and you know, to eighty with LS and it's just a beast of a car, I mean, just which makes it cool. And then
of course then I'm on board. But I don't know, like I just
I start looking at cars and like, so I think I told you guys, you know I had a handkering, and I still kind of do.
I like big Cadillacs, right, but I want to I kind of want to make a drift Cadillac, just a big Cadillac that just has a lot of power that you could drift it just be look, it looks goofy.
Why what do you mean why? Why? I think more for the fun
of it, right, I really do. Any I don't think it's gonna
be like I don't think it's gonna be for like you to drift a boat, I mean why, I don't know, for the same reason why I think a Vista Cruiser is cool. I mean cruiser. Come on, man,
you didn't just say that to me, did you do you know what a Vista Cruiser is? Yeah, a little bit. It's kind thought about
it before. It's a big station wagon. It's a big, huge ta.
I just think it's cool looking. I think if it's cruiser's cool.
You can't pull it up like he's like, why have like the Vacation movie or something like that. I mean, so, yeah, not not that
car, but yeah, and then uh Foreman had one, and that seventy show that's what he drove. That was Yeah, that's what it is,
the blue one. Okay, okay, his was his was green? Wasn't
it? Wasn't it green? It was handling. I thought maybe I'm wrong.
I thought there was green, but I could be wrong. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure it's green. I think paling. I think it's what it
was. So that seventy show is mister cruisers, you pulled up what I
think that athlete it's green? Yeah, yeah, yeah I thought so.
The TV I used to watch it on made it turn blue. That's the
quality. But no, I mean, I just I think of you like
I think I've told you guys like I like a I like a convertible cad, like like early sixties ish somewhere in there, and I mean, I like, I just think they're cool. I always have. But I want
to be powerful and I want to be fat. So if I had wanted,
it had to be fast for me to enjoy it. And everybody's like,
oh, that takes the fun out of the kind of like, well, you know what, I don't care what you think. That's my job
to slow Cadida, but I don't. I have a cada like. It
ain't gonna be slow. I mean I want to be so I just thought
maybe I don't know, I think even though it's not practical, but something that can really you could really sling around at cadillae. But a convertible like
because you know, you want to cruise it have fun, but it's got to be able to it's got to be a lead sleds can see the vision.
I can see the vision right, it's there, Like I said, just like people like so people have like the Chevelle station wagon, you know looking thing. I think, you know, people people soup those. So
I see those every once in a while they're souped up and you know, like and people go WHI And I'm like, well, I don't know because maybe because it's different. That's like saying I want to turn a name once
into a drift vehicle. Hey, there's an idea. Nathaniel's wheels just spun.
I watched him. He like he thought. He looked up, like
that's not gonna really work. I'm pretty sure the turn turnover is pretty hot
because I've seen DUIs. People smoke the tires on Douley, so it's just
a Duly style. Wise, like you probably gonna flip the cab over na
if you lower it down the way you don't. Well, I'm pretty sure.
I think if you lower it down and get the center of gravity right, you weight reduced to I mean he puts you had to weight reduce it, but I mean would it would be cool? Because don't exist there a
drift ambulance out there somewhere already, Probably not, there's not just right when you type it in, it's just a video of an ambulance drifting. And
there's an idea. I saw the mail truck what was it called? Is
it called hauling mail or something like that? That's there was a drift vehicle.
Somebody had one. I remember where I saw that, but I saw
one of the car shows. It was looked like it set up for drifting.
Is I can see that a competition out there. Apparently mail truck drifting
competitions are really I mean, it's pretty narrow. It would work. There's
a fool compety. I want to know where that competition is. How it
that? What, let's create a mail truck drifting. Wasn't that mail truck
for you? And I saw it wasn't the LS powered the one that you
and I think so, yeah, I think it was LS powered. It
was it was like the guy had I can't it was some type of transport vehicle, but he made it available and I think it was LS and it was cool looking. I mean, I like things right outside of the box,
right, So which kind of brings me around to there, you know, to a topic for today. That one of the things we're talking about.
So there's a lot of people out there that have like the Internet shows, right, So, like everything's like the Internet and they have either their building cars or they're you know, it's shown drifting cars and everybody's got like a tag name, you name it. There's one of the Internet influencers out
there that had some type of car show. I mean, so our show
automatically uploads over too. We don't do a whole lot with it, but
I see people clicking it every once in a while. It goes over to
YouTube, just like anybody else that's YouTube famous. Like I said, we
don't really promote that side of things about ours. Loads of there I've seen
there's tons of shows there on YouTube. But because if we're a radio show,
people listen to us more on the radio. They're not they're not going
to that, and we're not trying to build things or anything like that on that, you know for it, So it's no real reason really to go to it, other than if you just a hoard. But with that being
the case, there's tons of people have him. So I think people are
in a rush to become like internet famous when it comes to car stuff.
I mean, because like there's some people have been very succesful, you know, cleaned us he's we know, he's you know, extremely popular in that space. So is three or thirteen twenty. They're very popular in that space.
I mean, that can go on forever and ever. That the redneck
red beard guy, I can't remember his name pop in my head, but he's he's trying to think of the other guy that takes all the cars through the corn fields Diesel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's there's
people who like and really hate him just because of what he does with the vehicles. But I mean he's worked for him, right, so I think
people when he took the Corvette and put the horse buggy tires on the Corvette or it was a Mustang, I can't reach one. I think it was
a Corvette that he did it too. I know he's he's done a bunch
of you name it. Pick a car. There's one he's destroyed somewhere,
which, like I said, irritates some people, and some people just laugh about I look at it. I just laugh. I'm like, well,
if that's your money, that's what you want to do with or whatever, you know, so be it. Then I care. Well, look,
they're not the first though, Okay, Like I try to remember, I try to remind people that the what is the not dumb. I keep it
thinking of dumber and dumber. But uh, the one the skater guys that
were real popular for the jackass. Okay, so they are called they are
called c ky boys. Okay, I think I told you guys the story
for it that's what they were called. Okay, and they like started as
far as I'm concerned, because they took cars. I know what I said
that you look at me. I'm allowed to say that word. That's that's
not a bad word, that's the name, that's the name of a TV show. Cameras just stared at me. I'm like, I know what I
said. Anyway, So if you go back to their old videos, they
were the ones that were like setting cars on fire and jumping them and doing crazy stuff to it, way before there was ever like YouTube famous people doing it right, So I really think they opened the gateway for that kind of stuff. Personally, that's just a craziness. For the craziness doing crazy stuff
with cars and stuff like that. They were just they're not the same anymore
that they were back then, and we moved on. Like everything, everything
progresses everything. They've gotten older, you still want to do all that stuff.
They're years old now, you want tom still out there and do crazy to like, yes, come on dirty again. But I'm just like I
said, I'm just saying, like the new thing, which just baffles me.
Are people committed crimes in cars and making a YouTube channel out of it.
And then putting it on YouTube and thinking that like there's gonna be no way to get caught a repercussion. They're trying to make their bond money.
They're trying to make their bond money for the views. But you are right,
I don't understand why people post the videos, like if I've you seen TikTok lately, like all the Kia boys, they're not even Kia boys anymore.
I mean, we can't call them. Yeah, they're they're robbing everything
now. I mean, but they're taking these cars and just one hundred,
one hundred and twenty residential. So I got in a conversation this week with
a couple that were they were talking I don't know how starve, but they could start talking about cars and some of the videos and stuff like that, and they're like, what do you see what these stupid kids do with their cars? And I had a stop my way. You realize that it's not
that that's not their cars. It's not their car. When you see them
doing like drifting at intersections and smashing into each other, those are not their cars. Those cars are stolen. There's no way you're taking your your eighty
thousand dollars car and drifting it and just smashing each other. And then let's
just say you did accidentally connect and I'm like, here, you accidentally tap somebody in retaliation. You're not taking your sixty thousand dollars car and then just
broadside them. It's not yours, it's stolen. Like the cars are stolen,
guys. I mean, just get it through your head. Like now,
I'm not talking. I've seen people with their own cars do drift drift
stuff at intersections. I'm not condonned with the one day totally. They're out
of there right right, But I'm telling you, like people smashing each other and those don't belong to them. Those cars aren't there. They're just not
I don't know why you. And I was trying to explain to this couple
and I understood their view, like we had a pleasant conversation about it, but I went, I I hope I didn't sound wrong when I said it, because I was like, well, you don't really think those cars belong to them, do you? They're like and they just looked at me like
stone Like I was like, those cars are stolen. You're not doing You're
not taking a hell cat and drifting an intersection, and then when someone taps you in the rear fender barely you decide to just go full blown out broadside of them and destroy the whole front of the car. You're just out of
retaliation unless that car is stolen. I mean, you're just not doing it.
You're just not really thinking I'm going with stolen. I'm I'm going with
stolen. You're not, because like there's like you always see there's like a
Mustang and there's a hell Cat and there's there's a three fifty Z and they are just smacking off each other left and right, and I'm like, those about you're not doing that. So I was watching a video from Dodge because
you just mentioned hell Cat, watching one of their release videos where they were they showed two cars. I can't remember, but somebody got access to the
cars and they were trying to show the videos an electric car they were calling.
They were like, yeah, this can outrun the police. I think
when it comes electric that we're going to have control over that. And that's
why at some point going towards there was something that popped up with the news this week that I'm gonna touch on a little bit too, that goes into that some laws have passed, and that's gonna be the thing with laws passed and stuff, which is just mind blowing because we knew it was coming.
But now they're actually I told you a lot of things that stop us from having things are legislation being set and once they figure ot how they're going to do that, that's gonna be the big, huge change, you guys.
And you're not gonna get You're not gonna get away from it. So some
of the things that you think is just mystical, Oh, that's never gonna happen. That's just a pipe dream. Now, like these people are seriously
passing loss. I gotta take quicker marcial break. When I come back,
I want to tell you about one of the things that one of the videos that's out there right this second, that I just can't believe it's out there.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're automotive specialists. Now back to
your host, Dave Polach. Hey, guys, welcome back. Before I
went to commercial break, I was telling you guys the whole idea of doing crazy car drunk on the internet to become Internet famous. Like I said,
I'm not talking about the guys that are building cars or anything like that.
I mean, like I said, there's tons of those guys. I'm talking
about, like the ones that are committing crimes and cars and filming themselves and then put it on YouTube or you see small Instagram videos and stuff and then well maybe they're already going to do it, right, so it's just a second income to them, right you think you think that's what maybe or maybe like you said, they're just trying to get famous, right, But here's okay, So computers have IP addresses and stuff, like I mean, at some point someone's gonna track, like and they keep they keep tracking like the one I think I told you guys, like he was doing he was running from the police or something like that. Regularly and he was filming himself doing
it. And then just in one of the shots, they knew where he
was doing it because they knew what are he was doing it, but just by filming himself, but they couldn't really figure out who it was. And
then in one of the shots on the camera, his reflection was on the inside window of his own car, and they stopped it and saw reflected and then figured out who it was, like busted right, bustle right. And
then he had a guy that was like doing what the two hundred mile an hour passes or something like that, and the hell cat and he ran from the cops a couple times, and he went ahead and posted himself up on the internet. Before he knew it, they were like they just went to
his house and just waited for him at his house. They finally figured out
who was was doing it, and they just went to the guy's house and then of course he pulls up and you know there they are. I mean,
the newest one. This one's just got me baffled. So I guess
there's an internet influencer out there that was stealing hell cats and stuff like that and yanking the motors out of them and then selling the motors for them to be for motor swaps other people's cars. But he's filming himself doing it like
he made it, like he made it stolen. I don't know how much
did he like passing them off he eluded. I don't know if they knew
the people he's buying from are stoler or not. But he was charging a
fee to motor swap cars by using the stolen ones he stole. And of
course he's doing a whole YouTube channel out of it. Like nobody's just picked
up this car right right right, just pick go this car, getting ready to pull this motor out and drop it on this and like at some point somebody go to they drop the car back on. I'd be a nice guy
if he dropped it back off right with no motor, right, Like, at some point somebody has to go, how does this guy have like twenty five hell Cats so he's you know, just had access to the motors on you know what I mean? Like something rings wrong at that point in time,
right, But this is like, this is what we're this is what the world's coming to. I have a lot of free times sometimes and I
go down the rabbit hole and I tell you, guys, I get on the internet and I just start watching some of these people's videos. They make
it aalt car related stuff, and I come across from the Stringer stuff and I'm just like, like, there was one and I'm not gonna name all the names. All these you guys can go find them on your own,
but there was one where the guy is doing like motor mods and stuff on the car, right, but it just looks sketchy, like all the parts of these motor model looked like you know, like oh eBay parts, Yeah, you can kind of air quote eBay parts. Like It's just it was.
It was It's obvious they're being robbed off other cars. I'm just gonna
call it what it is. I mean, it's just obvious that they're you
know, they're out there and they're being and there's no there's no dust on them, you know what I mean. Like it's like, oh, and
I just so happened to have this, you know what i mean. I'm
like, Okay, that came off someone's car like that, that it came up. There's no way you went in the junkyard and found that sitting in
the junk yard like it came off someone's car. And you know, the
pieces if people are really watching and paying attention, right, you know, the pieces are connected. They do they keep like, please keep finding these
people, you know, like uh, there was another story that was uh in the news this week where they retrieved like sixteen uh like classic cars and stuff like that, like up in Canada. These guys were like stealing cars
and then they had him on a rule piece of property. Somehow the police
ended up out the property. They find sixteen like vintage corvettes and stuff like
that on the property and some hot ridsuff like that. But it's from doing
stupid things which then leads them to you or you know. I guess today's
day and age of bragging is the Internet, right, I mean, like back in the day you used to tell the story before we have the internet.
Now you can show the story, which is probably the problem, right, you know what I mean? And they just keep on getting caught and
over and over again. What's the one? What's the guy they keep on
trying to catch her if they haven't caught him yet, that is he driving the BMW like like one hundred and eighty miles hour through traffic. Yeah,
they already got him. That was uh gosh, I can't remember what his
name is, but it's like squeeze bends or something. Squeeze, yeah,
squeeze bins, that's what it is. And he was squeezing the spots.
I mean, like, if you've ever seen his video, it's insane to watch. And some of the ones where these people film themselves running. I
just saw one where I think guy's in a Mustang and he's running from the police and he's got one of those top mounted bar cameras on the car and he's got it where I guess we can face and looks what's going on behind you, and like you can literally see he's being chased and he's messing with him, like he slows down and lets him catch up, and then he just walks away from I would say the car is probably a twelve hundred horsepower car, easy because it's definitely not stock the way, because he's walking away from like state trooper like like charger kind of cars, you know. I
mean, like, so if you're if you're if you're not that it takes much to do that. But those those cars ain't no slouch. Just to
be honest, they get up and go on their own and so for him to walk away from like there's nothing to tell you something. I saw another
one. You guys are in our area. There's a place called jam if
a Norfolk. I was gonna ask you guys for one of the year if
it saw that video where they're doing donuts around the Norfolk police car. I
didn't realize there was a Norfolk police car until it said Norfolk on the side of it. I'm like, Oh, it's Myhrea, did you hear it?
She's like I need help, like like they're doing literally doing donuts from the car like and then people are videotaping all this stuff and then they're putting it on the internet. I don't know. You guys, tell me I
have been I told you guys, I've seen some pretty crazy events in my time. And then once we had a radio show I got I've been invited
to some pretty crazy events that I have not went to a lot of these because I just know what it's gonna breed. I know it's gonna breed trouble
and they're gonna do things that I don't want to be associated with. And
like I said, I like speed, guys, don't get wrong game.
But like now they're locking up spectators, which is probably the smarter way to do it. They're like, okay, if you're out there watching, you're
just you're just as guilty for watching as if you were if you were driving the car. And when we tried a tending hot Boy in Chill to get
the public like news on it, they blocked all the visitors in and tried giving everybody that didn't last very long, like that that event has come gone and that's it. Nobodys talking about it anymore. And and here's the thing,
And I told you guys, like they are closing down a lot of these uh these car events and stuff like that, ones that needs to be really big and popular. They're they're going away because people are trying to be
the next YouTube internet sensation by filming all their really bad actions. I don't
know, I maybe I'm getting I don't I'm not gonna say I'm getting tool.
I always feel like I want to have these conversations. But like we
did, like we went in drag race, Like okay, so you know, we drag raced our cars, and a lot of the people the guys listened to the show that are my age or maybe just a little bit ol You remember there was always a spot that everybody went to and everybody drag raced.
Okay, that was just what you what you did Mexico, right, Well, that's what you guys call it. But we didn't. We didn't
have a weird name like that for we just went talked about dragon like.
I talked to some of the guys that are senior to me by what twenty five years, and they talk about where they used to drag race when they're that's when they were finishing to sixty four, when they're building sixty four and it wasn't finished, and that was where everybody went out and drag raced illegally, you know what I mean. I mean it's illegal. It don't matter
if it's on the road. It's illegal, guys, I don't care what
you want to call it. It still is. But but it was it
finished, so you guys could have gone off the other end. No,
I don't think it's toll the bridge or anything like that. But but I'm
just saying like that was that was a common thing. There was. I
told you guys by us Low Mountain Road and when I lived in Vegas.
That was where a lot of people went and drag raced out there because it was a road out in the middle of nowhere that went up into the mountain.
And of course she had there's houses that were spaced out there far.
Now you can't find Low Mountain Road being as far as it's got houses everywhere.
There's neighborhoods. But when I while I was a kid, there wasn't.
I mean, there was a house like every five miles. It seemed
like, you know, so it was spaced out area. Uh. But
now, like I can't imagine if we had cameras and like that and the internet like that back then, maybe I don't would we have done I don't.
I just don't think we would have done that because camera you just had to take a wheel in search or you had to take the picture. And
you know, I know what you meant. He likes to date me even
worse than it is. But he's not He's not wrong. It was polary
cameras back it was black and white. I remember carrying around coilary cameras so
like school and then taking pictures of people in front of their cars, like towards the end of the year, like people had cool cars, took pictures and it was it was the Polaroid camera and when they asked to see it, you're like, well no, I got to get the film to up seeing it. Internally, there was I can't remember that. There was a
girl she had a really nice uh, really really nice restored I think it was a sixty I think that one was a sixty four and a half Mustang.
Uh, and she drove and there was h yeah, yeah, I believe or not. I know what people are gonna think. A lot of
girls in our high school drove cool cars. I mean, like it was
a girl she had a split bumper Camaro. It was all complete restored.
There was orange. She drove to school with white racing stripes every single day
and stuff. And there was a couple of girls that vintached pickup trucks that
were restored and that was in Vegas, and people just like they really liked cars back then. But I can't imagine in our time, like I said,
in our day and age of like just telling ours it's a you're telling on yourself. If you put it on YouTube, they're gonna catch you.
I mean, there's a perfect instance. I got a story after story that
we're written down. I can go through and tell you all the ones where
they get caught. I know, you guys, tell me what you guys
think. I'm just curious is it worth the stud Like I don't know,
Like somebody said to me, They're like, we got to think about it.
These kids record themselves doing something and it gets ten million views, they can get paid for that, like and I'm like, okay, but I don't know how much, Like not just tonight. I don't know how much
does that pay you? Like, I don't know, like is it worth
It doesn't pay much now? Yeah, I mean, well it used to,
right, like didn't it. Like I think, like every one thing,
I think it depends on like the demographic, right, So it's kind of like if he subject because it's kind of you're kind of like promoting like a bad thing. So I'm not sure really how that works. Well,
there's no way to prove. I guess that that is bad, right,
I mean, like we know what it is. I watched the body.
We're like, oh, you know, like he's running from the police and he's recording himself. Yeah, I can't be in the good But then you
sure you get like so many views. I'm atty sure they check on it.
Well, I just the one I just watched. I think that's here
in our area. And the police car starts chasing like this, uh,
this charger, and he's just toying with him. He's just completely toying when
he's off the gas, let'shim catch up, and then hammers it down and pulls away from again like it's nothing. And finally the police officer just gives
up, turns around and goes back to work. You don't even recognize that
it's our until the officer turns around, and think about it, is that's a recognizable car. If you saw the car that he's chasing, its wreck
car is a recognizable car. It has a it's not a stock paint job
on it. So like I understand that it's you know, be here.
Yeah, turned around. They don't give up, all right, Yeah,
no, you turn around my back to the big crowd because there's still tons of cars back in the crowd. Oh it was a crowd. Yeah,
there was a crowd of cars. So, like I said, you guys,
tell me what you guys think. I is it the new form of
bragging? I don't know. Is he's doing it for the money, that
the fame of the fortune when they think they're gonna get out of it.
I don't know. Look, I'm not doing I'm gonna tell you that right
now. And we can go grab something. It's got a whole lot of
horsepower and go play around. But I'm just not It's not my thing.
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I kind of want to jump into it. So the average car price
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back to your host, Dave Polach. Hey, guys, welcome back.
So I told you guys before I went to commercial break, I kind of want to jump. So we we touched on different avenues of this in the
past. But there was an article came out this week that was actually pretty
good read. If you guys go over to some of the car news if
you guys have I've always type in car news and see any stories that haven't made our way already and stuff, but it was one that actually came my way. So the average of keeping a car seems to be being longer and
longer and longer. Right, So, and what I mean by that is
we buy a car and instead of you know, there was one point in time when people were flopping cars, like every three years, every three years they get rid of car and getting a new car for three years. Now
it's just like any idea with the new average ages, anybody this this this this one, I think ten surprise years, fifteen fifteen years. Look so
fifteen like fifteen years is now like the new average age. Like when we
went from every three years, people are flopping cars. And you know,
I was talking to Nathaniel before we went on the air today and I believe that it has a lot to do with generational So the last couple of generations are a little bit less worried about cars. They just you know, they
just transportation, Yeah, transportation. They just they just need to get to
where they're going to go to. They're not really worried about that. So
if you just get something like, uh, you know, if I've talked with a couple of different people and like the last couple of weeks, right, they didn't go buy a new car. Remember I told you, like
people are like oh, they go gonna fix my car, I'm gonna buy.
The people who did go buy cars did not buy new. They've used
That's probably the reason why they used. Car mark is up so high because
you know, people are spending more time really doing I think, I truly believe, doing more research than they ever did because car prices are up there, right, But well, banks are now so banks are now spo like getting other dealerships to sponsor them and stuff for pre finance. If you ever
told me we were going to be at eighty four month financing on a car, eighty four months, Like, if you would have told me that years ago, I would have went, No way, You're they're never gonna do it. Man, eighty four months seeds to be like a standard. I
used to never receive you're pre approved for a car financing. This week,
I've received three of them. Why what changed from the week prior to this
week that you had to send me three of them? I finally made it.
No, I don't want it. I don't want that, but I
mean my car runs perfect. Eighty four months, car payments for eighty four
months, all like it just makes my stomach cringe. I don't even think
about it, like I used to think that thirty six months was long.
Like I'm like, oh, thirty six months, Okay, that's the payment I'm gonna pay on this car. I'm for months. I don't even know
if I'm I'm like, okay, fine, whatever, it's thirty six months, let's just go ahead and do it. But like I cringed a thirty
six months. Like the first cars I was buying, they were all thirty
six month finance, and the only thing I can think about was how to pay that car off quicker than thirty six months. I was like, okay,
how make a double payment? It's eighty four eighty four? Oh,
I'm sorry if you look I'm not. I understand people's situations. That is
their situation, right, I get it, Like I understand. I was
always told at a young age there's two things you're always gonna pay on.
It's gonna be a house in a car. If you want to have a
nice house and you want to have a nice cars, you were constantly just assume you're gonna have a car payment for the rest of your life, because you're contant gonna trade and get another one, and trading and get another one.
So I didn't want to believe that that was true. But here we
are, right, Like, I mean, I don't have one now, but still like if I wanted to go out and buy something brand new, that's where I would be at again, you know, right, like never mind you had and did have one just a secondly, literally just got rid of the Toyota one right years ago. I'm not I'm talking like a real
car payment. The Toyota had a very tiny payment on it, only because
I paid for most of the car up front and I wanted to have a step to keep established credit, so I took it just a little payment out on it, just to keep some established credit. But I mean, I'm
talking like these people, Like everybody I talked to is paying like a seven hundred dollars car payment, you know, I mean like somewhere in that range.
Now, I remember, right, so I remember cameras, Like what I remember when I thought when I got my first brand new car, brand new, mine was three hundred and sixty dollars a month, was what I was paying. What I paid, And I was like, uh, it
was just it seems it seemed like so much money to me at a three hundred sixty dollars a month car payment. I was like, oh, that
was a step up for me because the car before that that I had a car payment on was one ninety eight. See all right, so I guess
that is like all right. So as I'm sitting here, I'm like,
well, I guess you got you got too good people you can take into consideration. So Nate, Nate's car broke down, Nate just went and bought
a brand new car. You know me, if my car broke down today,
I'm not buying a brand new car. I'm probably gonna go buy another
two thousand and six, so I can, okay because at least right, but you're not. But you're not valuing with like all that newer stuff right
as well as I would like to have. Would you pay my cars a
lot rather have the money in my pocket rather than pay three hundred, Well, yours is three sixty. Mine is going to be like seven. The
people are going to be people are buying a piece of mind though, that's what they're buying, okay, So piece of mind? Right? So you
use not the typical person. He's not. He wanted a particular car,
right, I was looking for advance and he decided to go get that car and be like, Okay, this is what I'm right. I'm just gonna
do it. Especially if you buy like a used car, like you were
saying and stuff, you know that you're going to buy another used car or you're gonna be in the same scenario five six years down the road, right, you good came in for a while, was good for every couple of years you have car? Right, Yeah, I mean it's just it was
your trend. It was what was happening for you, not but all by
your fault. Some people hit you whatever, But like it seemed like for
a while or every year you had a new car, yeah, every two If you buy another used car, you know you're gonna be in the same boat, you know, four or five years down the road. But you
know if you buy a new car, well you're good for ten to fifteen years. That's where like you almost got us, Like are you willing to
put that extra exactly? Is you know do you want to you know,
be better off later? Like because I'm thinking about it, I'm like,
if my car broke down and I had to make the decision, I am going to be that person that does go buy a used car with that, the last two they okay, So the study is the last two generations, which would be the kids generation and the kids that graduated before they went five years before you guys. That's kind of where the gap is. They both
messed up generations. Well, it's not the mess. You guys, just
think about things different. They're not worried about flashy, They're just worried about
getting someplace. So Lice Camera says, I'm just gonna go out and buy
me like a two thousand and six, two thousand and seven that I could pick out for three four thousand dollars. I'm gonna roll intil it breaks down
and go get me another one after that. Yeah, that is your guys
generation. That's now see but now dad generation, that's their winter car.
That's the winter car. If you guys gotta catch that sud of it,
that's funny, but it is if you all don't know what the winter car is, I still think it's the best idea. You buy a car,
you drive through the winner, and you turn around sell for exactly what you bought it for because you only kept it for the winner, and you don't have to worry about driving anything nice that you already own it to tearing it up in the winter months. You drive something and you don't care what happens
if it gets sald on again. Whatever happened, it makes sense anyway.
Your guys' generation is a rental car. Your guys, if you run a
cars were cheapen up, that would be a good idea to just drive rent a car all during the winter. But they're just not as cheap as they
used to be. They're too expensive. But you're right, that would be
a good solution to your guys. Generation just believes in just buying whatever as
long as it as long as the radio works. And a lot of times
you guys even worried about now people forget a lot of people don't worry about AC though a lot of people they need to study shows A C is not first. What was the first not checked in the Z was the AC not
the radio? And then we checked the radio down the road that he didn't
pop the hood on the car before he checked the A C in the radio didn't pop the hood. Yet you got a little bit too much. That's
how that has been. That's how the salesman knew he had a buyer.
He had like, does radio work? Does AC work? Yeah? Man,
I really like this car. I'm like, you didn't pop the guys
gold rim gold rims Batman. Hear likes flashy things. It was a thank
you flashy. But like I said, it's situation. Camera camera will be
the guy like and I hope this had he needs to be the guy that wins the car at the right. He wins the car that just so you
can talk about it his whole life, because he gave it all the way, all the way. He just needs you the guy that wins the card.
In yesterday, I looked at me, I sense, so what car I'll buy you win? I was like, no, I'm buying a winter
car. Car didn't give me another four thousand dollars accurate hold on, But
like I said, I mean, like that is your guys, Like, let's say your guys generation the one before you guys. You guys are more
worried about just as long as it gets me there point game, point B.
We're not worried about point C anymore. No, they're not. But
there's there is a reason for that. Right. So the car pricing is
completely ridiculous. We've talked about it well some people are in the under depression
right, figure out today, worry about tomorrow later. I can never do
that, neither can I. But that I feel like that's something you know,
and since that people give rights, like are you talking about me?
Well? No, I mean it's just like you know, you'll figure out
some of his problems later, and you know you figure out day to day.
You know. It's that's not it. It's would I'd rather go spend
sixty thousand dollars right now? Where would rather go? Right? It's easier
for in my mind, it's like, Okay, it's easier for me to go sign myself up for four thousand dollars rather than it is knowing that it is going to probably last three, four or five years. If you're if
I'm lucky, and you're gonna put rather than a couple of grand and a couple of grand, you're right, but that's within the four or five years.
I'm still gonna put a couple of grand into the car that I paid sixty thousand dollars for and there's only also going to break down in four to five years because I'm going to have to do some maintenance to it. Something
else. The case right, but it's a newer car. It has now
arguing right and stuff. You paid you know, your car probably worth only
what four thousand and stuff? But you his car, his cars were,
His cars were sixty eight one. I'm saying, what the car, the
car, you know it's really worth, say four thousands. I don't want
to pay seven grandc is overpriced and stuff. You know you're gonna have to
do maintenance on it over you know, course period of time. You know,
it really just tackses down as well as you know with sixty thousand dollars card. You know, if you had to, you could put you know,
a lean on it if you needed to. You know, you have
that, you have different you know you don't want to, but there's different avenues with you know, with that, you know there is asset. Well,
there's a reason why I believe that we're in that condundrum. Right,
I just believe we're there. Let me take quick rush of break. I'll
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we're back. So I had take quick commercial break. As we were
saying, if we went to commercial break, I believe that there is a reason, right, I'm buying a four thousand dollar car. You're not.
Let's be honest, you're not buying a four thousand dollars car. You're probably
buying seven thousand dollars. Cary's what you're probably gonna buy someone on there,
which is a big difference from buying a sixty thousand dollars car. But there's
people like I don't if I'm buying a car for my wife, right, like, there's this that whole piece of mind. Well that's a whole different
story. I mean, well, of course, I'm just gonna just bit
the bullet. And we bought her the new car when we got it for
a just take the car, just take it right, right, let's take a car, let's run it. Just let's just buy the car. But
the problem with it is is cars are expensive. Like I said, the
average price right the second for this oh this quarter, yeah, go ahead, I'm going to say about in thirty two. No it's not really,
yeah, it's not. I guess you know, sixty thousand with all your
amenities probably low forty five for base. Okay, so it's it's your close
it's forty like forty seven eight for something halfway decent. That it's not gonna
be your top of the line model. It's be close to your base model
for it. And I'm not every time we have this conversation that comes around,
but people like start sending me cars. Please don't do that. I
understand that you can go out there and find a car for thirty eight.
But it's not it's not what you want right, right, it's not common of what you know, people, if you go out and buy a well named brand car, then everybody has trusted value and stuff like that. You're
gonna be in the in the forties, high forty six. Like I watched
a video of a dealer walking through his lot right and going through the cars, and majority of the cars he couldn't find something under I think you know thirty eight, you know under forty thousand. Basically it's because you know,
every car had time pay taxes, taxes. But you know everybody has some
type of package, Like everybody wants a package on the car. Nobody's really
going base mode, right, they're not. Like that's the reason why they
don't bring base model cars in anymore. Really, Like if you want one,
you can get one, but you're gonna look for a while. Like
you're not gonna you don't find a lot of base models sitting down on a lot anymore. You just do. Now, go back to nineteen ninety five,
ninety four, you find a lot of base models out on the lot.
They just were there. You just weren't a thing. These were the
luxury. Now it just seems like, oh, well package, would you
like the L S? Look, I say, you're right now, so
I'll give you. For example, when I worked for Toyota many many years
ago, right, you had the camera was the hottest ticket, and so was the Odyssey. But you had the CE, the L E and the
x L E I think is what they were. I rarely sold a CE.
We had them, but I didn't. I rarely sold the CE camera
to somebody. It was always the L E. Why because L came with
the package on its more stuff. It's a lot easy and unsell there,
right, Like would you like the base model or would you want something even the CE. So the CE camage still came with THEESE stuff. Now it
came with steel wheels with hub caps, but it had power windows, they had power locks, it had all that kind of stuff. But that was
their base. Like like I said, we rarely we didn't sell a lot
of c's. We sold a lot of L e's, had a lot of
x L e's. Uh, there was a lot of those soul So when
I started getting to the point where I was starting to buy cars, well you know, I mean like where I could start affording really what I wanted in life. I started looking at it. I wasn't looking at the baseball.
They were not my first cars. Yeah, I mean, like now,
I I think I told you guys, I had Honey Scoop turbo back before anybody really liked turbo cars. And I loved that car. It was
zippy. Uh, it was fully loaded with everything in it. I mean
the car had everything you name it. I mean it was a cool car.
You didn't see a whole lot of them. I think that's the reason
why I liked Maybe it was probably the reason why you didn't see a whole lot of them, because yeah, they broke down to me. But but
it was a cool I liked the car. The car was lowered, it
already had ground effects on it, already had a set of aftermarket No, it was a hot day. Go look it up. You look at it
looks like the car looks small in the pictures. But I mean, I
don't I don't know if my fascination was with the car. I just liked
the car when I saw and I was like, I'm gonna buy. And
the price was right. I think this is probably because the price was right
on it. And I did buy it from a dealership lot and I got
a good deal on it. But like I said, somebody already did a
bunch of work to it, already had a really cool kind of like custom color to it. Like I said, it was already lowered already. I
mean, it was everything that the early nineties were calling out for, you know what I mean, Like if you were a sam, if you're a ninety ye, I was screaming it screamed nineties like you wouldn't believe. You
walked to the car lot and one of the car like your uncle uncle.
Know what I actually, to be honest with you, guys, I went to go buy a CRX. I went there to my black CRX is what
I went to go purchase. And I got there. It was a nineteen
ninety two new it was it was used, but it was new for that year CRX and there was a dad buying it for his daughter. When I
got there, they literally like signed the paper. I went to go buy
that car though, I was like, that's what. I went there,
and then I went to I ended up with the with the honey screw because it was the next thing my price range. But it was like I said,
like it was a turbo car. And if you if you ought,
don't remember it couldn't. It wasn't. There wasn't. There wasn't a whole
lot of turbo cards out of the running around, like like now having a turbo on a car is like the coolest thing. My buddy had a Conquest
turbo Conquest, which was a zippy car, and I was like, oh, I'll give me a turbo car too, in my price range. His
parents bought his, and then I was by my mind. But like I
said, it was it was just one of those deals where you look at the cars then and you look at what we were, like we were purchasing.
Back then, you could have, like I could have bought a eight hundred dollars Folkswagen buck that runs say after eight youu speak again for eight hundred, twelve hundred dollars back when I was a kid, and they ran and you didn't do anything to you could drive. I mean, I'm sure things
broke down on them, but that's you can buy one out of the paper and they ran. To give you an instance, the guy down the street
from me a car I really wanted. The guy had a sixty eight Camaro
that was really nice. You only want fifty five hundred bucks for it,
so it kind of gives you a comparison what it was. But I knew
better than to buy that car and like try to drive it as a daily like you know what I mean, Like I just I was like a five hundred back that's a lot. So then and then I found a guy that
had a souped up irock Z that had an eighties paint job on it.
When I mean eighties paint job. It was red, and it had the
side pin strike that went up and did the little jazzy line down the side of the car went up, had a custom page on I had a Custos set of wheels, and I really liked that car. But then reality set
in. I went, I don't think I can daily drive this either,
because I just didn't make sense. I want to take you though, huh.
I wanted it take for a reality car for two weeks. The car
was out of the road for two weeks, and I went to the bank just to see if I could get a loan, and then when they told me they give me a loan, reality set in and I went and bought something was more practical. That's how I ended up with the high scoop.
So how much are you willing to give me? Zero? What do you
mean zero? So here's the thing though, right so we got amazing all
for this year. Let's jump forward it. Let's jump forward to twenty twenty
four. Manufacturers. There was a conversation that start buzzering end of the last
week. Now it's a little bit more popular this week. Manufacturers starting to
realize that your guys generation and what you guys are are dealing with, right so, and not just one manufacturer. They're trying to figure out a way
to make something new that still falls into the I would buy that category like price wise, you understand the number they come up with any idea, I'd buy a car for twenty four okay, ah, twenty four, yeah, I mean twenty four. I mean that's pretty cheap. Twenty five is twenty
five thousand dollars being the number. If they could build cars and keep it
at the twenty five thousand dollars price rangs your generation, it would jump more back into buying the cars because you don't want to. You guys don't want
to spend forty seven fifty fifty thousand dollars on a car, But you guys would buy it off on having a new car at twenty five. But I
feel like time to change though to a certain degree. Where it used to
be, you know, we're gonna make this really nice car, has all of the amandies for under you know thirty right, But now I feel like time to change where you know, oh, we're just gonna give you the base model for twenty five. Yeah, but you can't even get in it.
You can't even get in the base like the base model now is like close to forty oh yeah. Yeah. But I'm just saying, I'm sorry,
I'm and I'm guys, I have no problem spending money, right, Okay, so like I when it makes sense, but forty seven thousand dollars for baseballel car to be I'm sorry, doesn't make any sense. I mean
I thought about it. I mean if I could get I mean yeah,
I'll say, if they can get down to twenty five and make my car payment about two hundred dollars a month, I'd do it. And that's so
they're starting to kind of put the pieces together. I hope they get there
for your guys' sake. I hope they get there, because you know,
now we've ourselves out a first home ownership for a lot of your guys generation because the house is just so the price is so over the top that now you know, I just watched this whole thing about them leasing houses to your guys generation, given it all the way right right, just because people aren't buying they can't afford to buy. The house is too expensive. And now
we're falling to the same thing with a car market. The cars are too
expensive and people can't afford them. So now they're I hope that they get
the pieces put together on this and they get to the point where they can start producing something. They're nice, they're not just trash, but they're nice,
and they fall into that price range. So we can get back to
you guys owning cars. How would you everywhere? How would you feel about
a Frankenstein car? What do you mean frank Stein car? Like if they
can get to that you know twenty five mark with you know, piecing you know, you know, making a nice car, but piecing it from all other different cars, you know, from if you call it like the world's car. Yeah, yeah, but like you're taking throw pieces. You take
it to five eight parts, right, you know, parts that aren't really used saying now on the market, right exactly. You know they're cheaper and
stuff. But you made, you know, a cool concept car. Therefore
you're not you know, rebuilding a whole car and making new car. Notice
what song you were referring to? I did? I did? Okay,
what did you think I was referring to? This is the world? I
mean it wasn't. That's kind of how the idea of the Volkswagon came along,
that's the World's car because they wanted something cheap they wereyi can affording but drive and it worked well. They gave it away for free. They saw
lots of them. So if you go with that concept again, like he
said, you know there's tons of like spindles and brake systems, all kinds of stuff still available for twenty twelve fourteen models. You based on something that
where you put a card but it's new and everybody gets a car at a fair price that you guys are gonna want to own that. You're like,
oh, I'd own that. That's I think what they need to get to.
That's what they're kind of looking at. I hope they get there.
I don't know, we'll see it. One thing that I know is every
time we talk about some them before you know, it comes back and comes out. Just like I was talking about before we went on the show,
some of the laws I was telling you guys about their going effect, they are going. They just got it passed and improved for starting to control your
speed inside cars. Legislation have passed it so if you walk into if you
come to a town center, they can tap into your car and adjust your speed. That is now a law that is going through and in many different
states. So I don't know how that's gonna work out. You guys look
forward to it and that no, guys, I cannot believe that this show went by so fast. It is a great Saturday. And like I said,
you guys, hope you guys are enjoying your Saturday hopefully, whether it's holding out for you guys where we're at and you're out to a car show.
We got a bunch of different stuff that is coming up a lot of different car shows. So I'll try to keep you guys advice. One you're
gonna want to put on your calendar. If you're in the hand Roads area.
We're gonna be teaming up with the Hepcat Honey's at their car show over at Lanstown July twentieth, and we're gonna be doing a big, huge auction and it's gonna be a white elephant auction. If you guys never dealt with
those, it means you bit on stuff. You don't know what it is
until you win it. And anybody who gets the white Elephant gets to steal
your prize at the end. So we're gonna be setting that up. There's
a lot of cool stuff going on with that, and then we're gonna go ahead and get out of here. You guys, enjoy your Saturday. Sunday's
right around the corner. Make sure that you unplug, spends the time with
their kids, fire the barbecue, grill, play some board games with them, do any of those things. But they'll love you for it. You
guys, got anything before we get out here, and jury is a weekend.
Take care all right, guys, we're out here and we will talk to you soon.
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