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Subaru, Honda, Mazda Can't Lower Prices FAST ENOUGH | Episode 1072

Subaru, Honda, Mazda Can't Lower Prices FAST ENOUGH | Episode 1072

CarEdge Live May 15, 2026 33 min
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Subaru, Honda, and Mazda are dealing with EV demand softness and tariff-driven cost shocks, leaving them squeezed on cash and unable to cut prices quickly. Hosts connect Subaru’s tariff-related profit plunge and EV write-offs to constrained incentive spending, while pointing to oversupplied, expensive inventory that dealers struggle to move. They review Cox Automotive inventory/day-supply metrics, show how model-year 2025 stock is being discounted, and argue that shoppers’ leverage rises when inventory sits longer.

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Company

Subaru

"Dad, the big story this morning, we have yet another automaker losing a ton of money and delaying their investments. Subaru delays in-house EV production after a $362 million charge in tariffs fuel 90% profit plunge."

Subaru is the car company they’re talking about. In this episode, they say Subaru is putting off some electric-vehicle plans because of big financial impacts.

Concept

in-house EV production

"Subaru delays in-house EV production after a $362 million charge in tariffs fuel 90% profit plunge."

“In-house EV production” means the company is trying to make electric cars itself, using its own plans and factories. The episode suggests that’s costly, especially if people aren’t buying EVs as fast as expected.

Company

Mazda

"In the past week or so, Mazda sales have plummeted 17% year over year, and they have delayed their investments."

Mazda is another car brand/company they’re discussing. They mention Mazda’s sales falling and the company holding back on investments.

Concept

EV slowdown

"There is even some amount of EV slowdown, even in Europe, so that EVs just aren't selling quite as well as everybody had hoped they would at this time."

“EV slowdown” means electric cars aren’t selling as quickly as companies hoped. When that happens, it’s harder for automakers to feel confident about spending lots of money on new EV projects.

Car

Hyundai Genesis

"...ry. EVs part of the story. There's only Honda and Genesis were the brands that actually saw sales gains yea..."

Genesis is a luxury car brand made by Hyundai. It’s mentioned because the podcast is talking about which brands are selling more cars or gaining customers. The key point is that Genesis is positioned as a nicer, more premium option than regular Hyundai models.

Concept

EV registrations

"Subaru's EV registrations were up significantly in April... I believe it was a total of 1,800 vehicles... That's not to say that EV registrations aren't still down dramatically."

EV registrations are basically a count of how many new electric cars got registered recently. The hosts point out that registrations can move up in one month even if the bigger trend is still down. They’re using it to discuss whether the market is improving or not.

Car

Subaru Uncharted

"...$45,000, $44,000. Okay. So Subaru built a $40,000 Uncharted, and now they got to figure out how to sell this ..."

The Subaru Uncharted is a Subaru vehicle that the podcast is discussing mainly in terms of how much it will cost. The point is that the price needs to make sense for buyers, or sales can be harder. It’s being talked about as a model Subaru is trying to introduce successfully.

Car

Toyota Chr

"...he Uncharted is built on the same platform as the Toyota CHR or whatever the hell it is, and it is part of tha..."

The Toyota C-HR is a small crossover SUV, meaning it’s built to be easy to drive like a car but with more space and higher ground clearance. The podcast mentions it because it shares the same basic engineering foundation with another vehicle. That can help explain why two cars might feel or function similarly.

Concept

joint venture with Toyota

"Now, the Uncharted is built on the same platform as the Toyota CHR... and it is part of that joint venture with Toyota."

A joint venture with Toyota means Subaru and Toyota are working together on parts of the EV business. The hosts use it to explain why Subaru’s EV is based on Toyota-related underpinnings. It’s basically a partnership to share work and reduce risk.

Concept

oversupply of inventory

"They have an oversupply of inventory, expensive inventory, and they can't sell it."

Oversupply of inventory means there are too many cars sitting on lots compared with what people want to buy right now. If the cars are costly to hold or finance, the company may need to drop prices faster to sell them. That’s the idea the hosts are arguing in this segment.

Concept

execution risk

"The execution risk in their businesses just got so much higher."

Execution risk means the risk that a company’s strategy won’t work in real life. The hosts are saying that if automakers make more mistakes, things could get much worse fast.

Term

tariffs

"The root cause, and I know I read the comments... but the root cause, the major portion of that 90% plunge is tariffs."

Tariffs are extra taxes added to imported products. The hosts say those added costs are a big reason Subaru’s profits dropped so sharply.

Term

write-off

"Tariffs cost them $1.42 billion. The write-off for Subaru's EVs is $362 million."

A write-off is when a company admits an investment isn’t going to pay off as expected and records a loss. The hosts use Subaru’s EV write-off to explain why the company has less money available for discounts and incentives.

Term

MSRP

"The Forester was the one that they increased the MSRP on significantly year over year, wasn't it?"

MSRP is the official sticker price a car company lists for a car. If that number goes up a lot, fewer people may buy it, because the car costs more.

Term

incentive spend

"the incentive spend to move those and Subaru typically spends less to move vehicles than their competitors, but the expense to move Solteras and other EVs incentive-wise was in excess of $8,600"

Incentive spend is the discount money automakers put into deals to help cars sell. The hosts are comparing how much more Subaru has to spend to sell EVs than it spends for non-EVs.

Car

Solterra Solteras

"...s than their competitors, but the expense to move Solteras and other EVs incentive-wise was in excess of $8,..."

The Solterra is an electric vehicle, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. The podcast is talking about how expensive it can be to encourage people to buy EVs using incentives. That’s why the Solterra comes up in a discussion about EV sales and pricing.

Concept

EV initiatives that failed

"they're paying for the right off of their EV initiatives that failed. They literally don't have the money sitting around to underwrite incentive programs like they may have done in"

This means Subaru’s electric-car plans didn’t work out the way they hoped. Because of that, they took losses and now they don’t have as much money to offer big discounts to sell EVs.

Term

day supply

"The latest numbers from Cox Automotive came out for new vehicle inventory, day supply, and we're going to review that."

Day supply tells you how long dealerships’ current stock would last if sales keep going at the same rate. More days usually means cars are moving more slowly.

Term

new vehicle inventory

"The latest numbers from Cox Automotive came out for new vehicle inventory, day supply, and we're going to review that."

New vehicle inventory is how many brand-new cars are currently unsold at dealerships. If there are lots of them, it usually means cars are harder to sell right now.

Company

Cox Automotive

"The latest numbers from Cox Automotive came out for new vehicle inventory, day supply, and we're going to review that."

Cox Automotive is a company that collects and reports data about car sales and dealer inventory. The hosts are using its report to talk about how many new cars are still unsold.

Concept

sell down model year 2025 inventory

"May 14th, 2026, new vehicle inventory holds steady in April as automakers sell down model year 2025 inventory."

“Sell down” means dealerships are trying to get rid of leftover cars from the previous model year. It usually happens when there are more of those cars than people are buying.

Concept

model year inventory sell-down

"pricing right now as a gimmick to try and sell off this inventory that they can't sell. You can see the other brands on here as well, but that number is down significantly."

Car companies sometimes have too many cars from last year sitting around. So they use discounts or promotions to sell them before the next year’s cars show up.

Car

Ford F-series

"What's going on with Ford? You've been thinking it would be easy for Ford to sell those 2025s, especially if they're the F-series because they have a shorter to 2026 F-series because of the aluminum situation."

Ford’s F-series is their main line of pickup trucks. The hosts are saying Ford might be able to sell off older-year pickups more easily than other models.

Term

aluminum situation

"especially if they're the F-series because they have a shorter to 2026 F-series because of the aluminum situation. Let's look."

In this context, the “aluminum situation” refers to supply-chain or production constraints tied to aluminum components used in newer truck designs. Those constraints can affect how quickly Ford can transition from one model year to the next, which then impacts how aggressively it must discount older inventory.

Car

Ford Bronco

"It looks like a ton of Broncos, Dad. Yes. Out of the nearly 70,000, 25,000 are Broncos. 26,000. Only 8,200 are F-150s."

The Ford Bronco is Ford’s SUV that’s known for off-road capability. The hosts are pointing out that Ford has a lot of unsold 2025 Broncos compared with other models.

Car

Ford F-150

"Out of the nearly 70,000, 25,000 are Broncos. 26,000. Only 8,200 are F-150s."

The Ford F-150 is Ford’s most common full-size pickup truck. The hosts are using it as a comparison point to show Ford has fewer leftover F-150s than Broncos.

Car

Ford Broncos Sports

"... clear story. It's disproportionately Broncos and Broncos sports. If you're out there and you've ever thought abou..."

The Ford Bronco Sport is a smaller SUV that’s meant to handle more than just city streets. It’s related to the bigger Bronco, but it’s designed to be easier to drive and park day to day. People talk about it because it can be a good choice if you want a Bronco look and some off-road features without a full-size SUV.

Concept

service loaners

"I bet you a lot of these are ending up as service loaners, Dad. I would imagine a lot of them will. Ford will pay the dealers to put a lot of these vehicles in service loaners, especially the Broncos."

A service loaner is a car the dealer gives you to drive while your car is in the shop. Sometimes the manufacturer helps pay for dealers to keep certain models available so more people get to try them.

Car

Acura ZDX

"That's kind of like when in the, what was it, 2009, 2010, when Acura came out with the ZDX and they just sat and they paid each dealership a lot of money to put them in the service loaner fleet..."

The Acura ZDX was a special Acura model sold around 2009–2010. The host is using it as an example of how brands try to get people to try a car by putting it in loaner fleets.

Term

days supply

"Here's the data. Yes. Current state of the new car market. There are 2.86 million new cars in inventory, 78 days supply."

Days supply is a way to measure how many days the cars sitting on lots could last before they’re sold. If it’s higher, it usually means dealers have more cars than they can sell quickly.

Term

average listing price

"The average listing price has ticked up above $49,025... It was $48,667. Again, where we are today, $49,025."

Average listing price is the typical price you see advertised for new cars. If it goes up, dealers are generally asking more; if it goes down, they’re asking less.

Term

seasonally adjusted run rate

"The seasonally adjusted run rate, Dad, was 15.9 million last month. Two months ago, it was 16.3 million. A year ago, it was 17.1 million."

It’s a way to estimate how fast sales are happening after removing seasonal effects. It turns a short-term number into an annualized “pace,” so trends are easier to compare.

Term

Dealer Track Otter Credit Availability Index

"is the Dealer Track Otter Credit Availability Index is the highest it's been in those recent readings since June of 2022. So one way to address affordability is give more people more access to credit"

This index is basically a scorecard for how easy it is for people to get car loans. If the score is higher, more buyers can qualify for financing.

Brand

Honda

"to where we start on Subaru, Honda, Mazda... Honda has a 48 day supply. Subaru has a 78 day supply."

Honda is one of the brands used to compare inventory levels. The hosts mention Honda’s “day supply” number to explain how tight the market is for buyers and sellers.

Brand

General Motors

"the opposite of Ford and General Motors, these Japanese brands have done super well in the United States."

General Motors is mentioned as the other side of a comparison. The hosts use it to contrast how different automakers are performing amid affordability and inventory pressures.

Concept

seller's market versus buyer's market

"the lower day supply, kind of like the less consumer leverage you have, the more of its seller's market versus a buyer's market"

This is about who has the advantage. If cars are scarce, it’s more of a seller’s market; if there are lots of cars to choose from, it’s more of a buyer’s market.

Car

Dodge Ram

"...hn. Incredibly thoughtful and kind. I have a 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 with 215,000 miles on it, and I refuse to bu..."

The Dodge Ram 1500 is a pickup truck, usually used for hauling and towing but also driven like a normal vehicle. The example given is a 2008 model with a lot of miles, which shows that some Ram trucks can last a long time. People bring it up because it’s a common, practical truck to own.

Car

1934 Mercedes-Benz 500k

"From Rich, we appreciate it. Great. Look upon a fellow classic, the 1934 Mercedes-Benz 500k. Let's see what Rich has us going."

The 1934 Mercedes-Benz 500K is an old luxury Mercedes from the 1930s. It’s famous with collectors, partly because it had a supercharger and it looks very distinctive with that long, classic hood.

Car

Renault Wind

"...e to drive around in a convertible, but it's that wind noise in the hearing aids that gets amplified. Th..."

The Renault Wind is a small car with a convertible top, so you can drive with the air coming in. The podcast mentions that wind noise can be a problem, especially at higher speeds. It’s a practical comfort issue people should consider before buying a convertible.

Concept

mystery shopped 100 car dealers

"I keynoted an auto industry event. It should come out on YouTube next week, and I can't wait to share it. I mystery shopped 100 car dealers with our AI in a room full of car dealers."

Mystery shopping is a research method where someone poses as a typical customer to see how businesses respond in real conditions. In car retail, it helps reveal differences between online advertised pricing and what dealers will quote directly.

Term

AI in a room full of car dealers

"I keynoted an auto industry event. It should come out on YouTube next week, and I can't wait to share it. I mystery shopped 100 car dealers with our AI in a room full of car dealers."

They’re using AI to help contact dealers in a consistent way. The goal is to make the dealer responses easier to compare.

Term

OTDs

"62 provided some sort of price information. A third of them actually gave us OTDs like we asked for. Now, many of the dealers ended up sending back breakdowns that had different prices than what they had advertised online."

OTD means the final price you’d actually pay when you buy the car. It includes the base price plus things like taxes and dealer fees, so it’s easier to compare dealers fairly.

Car

Nissan Titan

"You can see here, Dad, one of the dealers listed this 2021 Nissan Titan for sale at $24,998. The OTD they sent to us had a $1,595 protection package in their $1,000 dock fee."

The Nissan Titan is a big pickup truck. In this episode, they’re using a Titan listing to show how the final price can change based on dealer add-ons and fees.

Term

dock fee

"The OTD they sent to us had a $1,595 protection package in their $1,000 dock fee. Then the AI agent negotiated, got an $1,100 discount, but still the dock fee."

A dock fee is an extra charge dealers add for handling the car when it arrives. It’s one of the fees that can stick around even if you negotiate the price.

Term

protection package

"The OTD they sent to us had a $1,595 protection package in their $1,000 dock fee."

A protection package is extra add-on stuff the dealer tacks onto the price. It can include things meant to protect the car, and it can raise what you pay.

Concept

bait and switch

"It's just be transparent. Don't bait and switch. Well, you don't have to go on for too long."

“Bait and switch” means the deal you’re shown isn’t the deal you end up getting. In car sales, it usually happens when extra fees appear at the end.

Concept

A-rated dealers

"But to be clear here, there's now becoming a growing incentive to do it because we're going to educate anyone and everyone that you should do business with A-rated dealers."

An “A-rated dealer” is a dealership that scores well for being upfront about pricing. The point is to help buyers avoid surprises and extra charges.

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