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The Automotive Revolution: AI, Robotics, China, FTC Compliance, and What's Next for Dealerships

The Automotive Revolution: AI, Robotics, China, FTC Compliance, and What's Next for Dealerships

Automotive Informants Jul 16, 2026 51 min
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Hyundai’s push toward FSD-like automation and robotics is weighed against real-world safety concerns, while Chinese EV competition and charging constraints pressure U.S. automakers. Battery supply chains, solid-state hopes, and hydrogen’s cost/hype gaps set the tech backdrop. The conversation then turns to dealership reality: thin margins, rising floor-plan pressure, and FTC scrutiny of marketing—especially employee social posts. Leasing economics, mandated buybacks, and AI implementation strategies (plus vendor concentration risk) shape what’s next for dealers.

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FSD

"Some of us don't, but Tesla. It's not even has to do anything about Tesla. All it has to do about Hyundai Hyundai is going all in on FSD. They're going to. I mean, they've already been testing it, seen some viral videos, basically kind of mirroring what Tesla's done with their FSD."

FSD stands for “Full Self-Driving.” It’s software that tries to help the car drive more on its own, like staying in the lane and handling parts of the route. Even with FSD, the driver usually still has to pay attention and be ready to take over.

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Car

Hyundai Palisade

"However, ⁓ If I'm correct, a few months ago wasn't there a case out of California where a two-year-old girl got crushed to death from the power folding seat on a Hyundai Palisade? So they can't even make a seat correctly, but they're gonna go all in on this."

The Hyundai Palisade is a family SUV with three rows of seats. The hosts mention it because there was a reported accident involving a power-folding seat, which raises safety questions about how that feature works in real life.

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power folding seat

"However, ⁓ If I'm correct, a few months ago wasn't there a case out of California where a two-year-old girl got crushed to death from the power folding seat on a Hyundai Palisade? So they can't even make a seat correctly, but they're gonna go all in on this."

A power folding seat is a seat that folds or changes position using an electric motor and control system rather than manual hinges. Because it moves automatically, it depends on correct sensing, control logic, and safety interlocks to prevent pinch/crush hazards.

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connected car type platform

"Toyota, you know, all the different Japanese manufacturers to have some kind of connected car type, you know, platform don't you know, they can, you know, engineer other things, but like, the things that don't need to be, you know, batteries, things like that to be engineered."

A connected-car platform is the system inside a car that lets it communicate with apps, networks, or services. The idea is that companies can share that “tech base” so they can focus on other parts of the car.

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Bosch

"Yeah. So if we look at it and we look at some, let's just take Bosch for example, Bosch supplies huge amount of percentage of parts to the automotive industry ⁓ right across brands, right across brands."

Bosch is a company that supplies parts to many car brands. The host is saying that because the industry is changing, suppliers may need to merge or team up to survive.

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Chinese auto industry competition and U.S. threat

"Yeah, you know, think, know, there's a lot that you can expand on this conversation specifically, because the minute you start going into the Chinese conversation, you know, they're, you know, as you know, moving into Canada, they, you ⁓ based on current that they have, they could be a real threat here in US. [620.9s] Peter Smith - Lion Partnership: He Well, good, good question there."

They discuss whether Chinese car companies could become a major threat in the U.S. and what that would mean for prices and EV adoption. They also talk about how charging and infrastructure affect whether people buy EVs.

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OEM legacies

"pushed back against People don't understand the actual Chinese auto industry and what they're doing and why they're doing it. ⁓ it's, ⁓ it's it's global economic play to wipe out the, the legacies. [653.4s] Look at what's happening in Germany."

OEM legacies means the long-time big car companies and how they’ve traditionally operated. The point is that newer competitors can squeeze them on price and costs.

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battery plants

"Look all the battery plants are closing right across North America and because over leverage, can't fund. Geely, or not Geely, just had a massive scare."

Battery plants are factories that make EV batteries. The host is saying some of these factories are shutting down, which affects how quickly EV supply can grow.

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over leverage

"Look all the battery plants are closing right across North America and because over leverage, can't fund. Geely, or not Geely, just had a massive scare."

Over leverage means companies borrowed or committed to too much financial risk. If sales or funding don’t go as planned, they can’t keep paying for big projects.

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Geely

"Look all the battery plants are closing right across North America and because over leverage, can't fund. Geely, or not Geely, just had a massive scare. Their prices dropped over 55 % in an hour because someone said they were going bankrupt"

Geely is a big Chinese car company. The host mentions it to show how quickly problems or rumors can affect EV prices and the market.

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range anxiety

"Yeah, you know, I'll think my only argument to that is you still run into what every dealer had problems with is the range anxiety. They don't have the infrastructure that yes, they could try to plug into Tesla. [766.5s] But, you know, when was the last time you went to a Tesla charger? I always see those things packed."

Range anxiety means worrying your electric car won’t have enough charge to get where you’re going. If chargers are hard to find or busy, that worry gets worse.

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EV sector

"Zach Fritz: even think it's the EV sector, right? So I don't know if you've seen it, but REO, right, the old truck manufacturer, somebody, don't know if it's the same owners or if they got bought up or whatever the case is."

The EV sector is the part of the auto industry focused on electric cars. The point being made is that EVs can change how many service workers are needed and what they work on.

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REO

"even think it's the EV sector, right? So I don't know if you've seen it, but REO, right, the old truck manufacturer, somebody, don't know if it's the same owners or if they got bought up or whatever the case is."

REO is mentioned as a truck company that’s making a new modular vehicle concept. The transcript doesn’t clearly identify which real-world brand it is, so it’s hard to pin down.

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tariffs

"If the Chinese start doing that, it's game over. However, I'll play the devil's advocate here. We talk about, well, all these cars coming in from China and the tariffs, it's gonna drive the price up, and that's how we remain competitive from a lobbyist perspective, whatever."

Tariffs are taxes a government places on imported goods. In the segment, tariffs are discussed as a policy lever that could raise the price of Chinese vehicles, affecting how competitive they are versus domestic automakers.

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lithium-ion battery

"And those graphite is the number one component for a lithium lithium ion battery. It's 11 parts graphite to one part lithium."

A lithium-ion battery is a rechargeable power pack. It stores energy using tiny charged particles (lithium ions) that move back and forth when you charge and use the battery.

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graphite

"And those graphite is the number one component for a lithium lithium ion battery. It's 11 parts graphite to one part lithium."

Graphite is a material inside many lithium-ion batteries. It helps store lithium when the battery charges, which is why getting enough graphite matters.

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solid state

"The only hope for us is solid state solid state will be a game changer if it can be produced at scale."

Solid-state batteries are a newer type of battery that uses a solid material instead of a liquid inside. People think it could be safer and hold more energy, but it’s hard to make cheaply in large quantities.

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hydrogen

"They also for the longest time have been talking about hydrogen, hydrosyn cell type driving... It's emitting water vapor. great. Yeah the the holy grail."

Hydrogen can be used as a fuel to make electricity in the car. In many hydrogen systems, the main exhaust product is water vapor, but the hard part is making it affordable and widely available.

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hydrosyn cell

"They also for the longest time have been talking about hydrogen, hydrosyn cell type driving."

This sounds like “hydrogen fuel cell,” which is a device that turns hydrogen into electricity. That electricity can then power the car’s electric motor.

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EV incentives

"The only way we sold them is with ⁓ incentives. And as a dealer, we had to take big losses to move the inventory."

EV incentives are government or manufacturer programs that reduce the effective purchase cost of electric vehicles. The speaker describes how incentives were necessary to move inventory, implying demand can be highly sensitive to pricing support.

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quality standards

"there's so many different quality standards that we've put on these that don't allow them to make a really inexpensive vehicle"

Quality standards are formal requirements that products must meet before they can be sold or put into service. In the transcript, they’re framed as constraints that can raise costs and slow down how quickly cheaper vehicle technologies reach the market.

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robot waiter

"It's like the restaurants that have the little robot waiter that brings your food. It's like, is that really saving time..."

A robot waiter is a robot that brings things to customers instead of a person. The point here is whether that kind of automation really saves time enough to justify the expense.

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robot cleaning the floors

"now you just see this robot all the time, just kind of going through the whole facility, just cleaning the... Can we have something running around our businesses cleaning up?"

These are cleaning robots that drive around and clean floors by themselves. The discussion is about whether they meaningfully improve day-to-day operations in real businesses.

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remote control

"Instead of the lines on the floor, they can just follow the Waymo model and have a bunch of people in Indio just remote control the thing"

“Remote control” means someone drives or operates the robot from far away instead of letting it do everything by itself. The idea being discussed is using people to take over when the robot gets confused.

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Waymo

"Instead of the lines on the floor, they can just follow the Waymo model and have a bunch of people in Indio just remote control the thing"

Waymo is a company that works on self-driving cars. In this segment, it’s used as an example of how you might manage a robot with remote help when it can’t handle something on its own.

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Place

Indio

"Instead of the lines on the floor, they can just follow the Waymo model and have a bunch of people in Indio just remote control the thing"

Indio is a place in California mentioned as where the remote operators would sit and control the robot.

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FTC

"So the FTC has been a hot topic recently. it's a big one. A lot people, lot of auto groups have been getting sued, lot of scrutiny."

FTC means a U.S. government agency that polices unfair or misleading business practices. The hosts are saying car dealers have to follow these rules, especially in advertising online and on social media.

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automotive news

"So this article that Automotive News just came out with, basically said that TikTok, Instagram, do dealers need to worry about that"

Automotive News is a car-industry news outlet mentioned as the source of the story they’re discussing.

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CFPB

"Like apparently we didn't really need CFPB because we already had some laws that we could reinforce or enforce."

CFPB is the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, another U.S. agency focused on consumer financial products and related advertising/servicing. The speaker argues that even without CFPB, existing laws can still be enforced—here, by the FTC—against dealer marketing and related practices.

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social media

"TikTok, Instagram, do dealers need to worry about that since that's if you get employees running around doing these types of ads or these little self-promotions to get customers and they'd last on their social media for years"

Here, “social media” means posts on platforms like Instagram or TikTok. The hosts are saying even normal, unpaid posts can still count as advertising and can get dealers in trouble if they’re misleading.

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identifiers

"The, the challenge, the massive challenge here is identifiers. Soon as you put identifiers in, in your, your social media, you're liable."

Here “identifiers” means things like tags, names, or labels that connect a social post to a dealership or salesperson. The claim is that once you make it clearly tied to the dealership, the dealership can be held responsible for the post.

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Peter Smith

"Peter Smith - Lion Partnership: Well, I will say 100 % exposure knowing what, the actuality of it is... Peter Smith - Lion Partnership: ...they're going to have to employ a lot AI, new people, bring in whole department of compliance."

Peter Smith is the guest on the show. He’s explaining how car dealers can get in trouble with the FTC over things like social media posts and pricing accuracy.

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Lion Partnership

"Peter Smith - Lion Partnership: Well, I will say 100 % exposure knowing what, the actuality of it is."

Lion Partnership is the organization the guest says he works with. It’s mentioned to give context on where his advice is coming from.

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misleading pricing

"and ⁓ that every instance of a ghost car of misleading pricing anything that's not kosher as the FTC says, you're in a position of a $53,000 fine plus."

“Misleading pricing” means showing a car price in a way that isn’t really what the customer will end up dealing with. The hosts are saying this can trigger FTC trouble and big penalties for dealers.

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ghost cars

"and ⁓ that every instance of a ghost car of misleading pricing anything that's not kosher as the FTC says, you're in a position of a $53,000 fine plus."

A “ghost car” is basically a car listing that looks real online but isn’t actually available the way the ad suggests. The point here is that this kind of listing can get dealers into legal trouble.

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compliance standards

"Do you think that the dealer needs to have a playbook so that salespeople have a way to market, similar to how the gives these compliance standards for their marketing departments?"

“Compliance standards” are the rules a business follows to stay within the law. The idea here is that dealers may need a clear guide for employees so posts and promotions don’t accidentally break the rules.

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liability exposure

"they're going to have to employ a lot AI, new people, bring in whole department of compliance. training is gonna be immense everybody coming on board... because they're gonna have to understand is expose dealership to liability, what those liability costs are."

“Liability exposure” means how likely it is that a business could get blamed or sued because of something it did (or something its employees posted). The hosts are saying the risk grows quickly when many people post many times.

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floor plan

"IgniteUps.ai: Well, I've already heard, you know, from friends of mine, independents that have already been pushed out just because of the, the high costs of floor plans. mean, that those, those numbers are just astronomical."

A floor plan is a loan dealers use to buy cars for their lot. They pay interest while the cars are waiting to be sold, so if sales slow down or interest rates rise, it gets expensive fast.

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inventory

"Peter Smith - Lion Partnership: ⁓ yeah. Well, think about it. Think about it any way we look at it. We have to be ultra efficient. If we're not ultra efficient in our floor plan, we're not ultra efficient in our inventories, we're not ultra efficient in our used car operations, we're not ultra efficient selling inventory in our ops, be it either in service or in parts, that's still inventory."

In dealership operations, inventory refers to vehicles and parts sitting on hand that tie up money. The discussion frames inventory efficiency as critical because holding too much (or moving it too slowly) hurts margins.

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NADA margin

"Peter Smith - Lion Partnership: If we're not ultra efficient, That is going to eat away at the 2.2 % margin that we hold typically as per the NADA. It's going to crush us. We can't afford it."

NADA margin refers to profit-margin benchmarks published by NADA (National Automobile Dealers Association). The host uses it to argue that inefficiency can quickly erase thin dealership margins.

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interest rate

"Peter Smith - Lion Partnership: And this interest rate boom that is going on right now, meaning that the average interest rate to a consumer is over 10%."

The interest rate is the cost of borrowing money, and in this context it affects consumer auto loans and dealer financing costs. Higher rates raise monthly payments, which can reduce demand and stress dealership cash flow.

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right to repair

"Zach Fritz: They're either held and being maintained and kept on the road by these independent shops and that's how they're making their money since right to repair is kind of keeping them out of all these OEM, ADAS stuff and newer stuff."

Right to repair is the idea that independent mechanics should be allowed to fix cars using the same kinds of information and parts that dealerships use. It can keep older cars running longer.

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ADAS

"Zach Fritz: They're either held and being maintained and kept on the road by these independent shops and that's how they're making their money since right to repair is kind of keeping them out of all these OEM, ADAS stuff and newer stuff."

ADAS are the car’s driver-assist features—systems that help with things like staying in the lane or controlling speed. Newer cars have more of these systems.

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kill switches

"Zach Fritz: But then you look at these cars, they're all flooding the used market as these people age out and people are leaning towards these less complicated cars. I mean the big social media trend this week is the kill switches being installed."

A kill switch is an anti-theft device that stops a car from starting or running if someone tries to steal it. The speaker is saying it’s becoming a popular trend.

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capitalized cost

"We look at the magic number and we're always looking at the magic number of capitalized costs."

When you lease a car, the payment is based on a “starting price” number. That number is called the capitalized cost, and it’s what the lease company uses to figure out your monthly payment.

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Honda Civic

"But look at a $10,000 car that that still running and a 15 or 18 year old Honda Civic, but that's what you're paying for."

The Honda Civic is a very common, long-lasting car. Here it’s being used as an example of an older car that can still be a good deal because it keeps running and doesn’t necessarily cost as much to maintain as people expect.

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depreciation

"if you look at depreciation on a new car versus, you know, that $10,000 Honda Civic, that $10,000 Honda Civic, it's kind of already at its floor."

Depreciation is how much a car loses value as it gets older. The point here is that an older, cheaper car may not lose much more value, while a new car can drop a lot early on.

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Ford F150

"Peter Smith - Lion Partnership: My niece who's 20, I think she's 26 or 27 years old, just bought her first home, $1.1 million. And that is the average in Ontario. It's ridiculous. I bought my first home 20, 25 years ago and it was a custom build and it was only $350,000. an acre lot in the same area. it and hers is is a 70 year old house war home at that needs a million dollars worth of renovation. Zach Fritz: And I think the crazy part because then my question becomes even in a rental situation or a lease situation, what happens to that F-150 when you're done with it? It hits those used car lots. It hits that secondary market. Now, the other, I issue that we have is, you know, if you look at depreciation on a new car versus, you know, that $10,000 Honda Civic, that $10,000 Honda Civic, it's kind of already at its floor."

The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. It’s designed to carry cargo and tow things, but it can also be used like a regular vehicle for daily driving. The podcast is likely bringing it up as an example of a vehicle people buy when they’re thinking about major life expenses.

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manufacturer buyback

"you are mandated by the manufacturer through their financial wing to buy a certain percentage of those vehicles back and it can be anywhere from 30 to 60 %"

A manufacturer buyback is when the car company requires the dealer to take certain returned cars back. The dealer then has to resell them, often at prices influenced by that guaranteed return deal.

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subvented rates

"In a leasing and I know in to run subvented rates with the dealership, you are mandated by the manufacturer through their financial wing to buy a certain percentage of those vehicles back"

A subvented rate is a discounted loan/lease interest rate that the car company helps pay for. It can make monthly payments lower than they otherwise would be.

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BMW Series Bmw

"...ns I have to buy it for, say I'm buying a three C series BMW. I'm buying it at $45,000, even though that the m..."
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residuals

"Well, you know, I'll tell you, I don't know how they do it. But when I look at some of these lease buybacks, those residuals are astronomical."

When you lease a car, the contract usually guesses what the car will be worth at the end. If that guessed value is high, your monthly lease payment can be lower. That’s what they mean by “residuals.”

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money factor

"In addition to that, you know, some of these money factors, know, some of these, you know, Mercedes was always pretty high lease penetration."

A lease has a financing cost, kind of like interest on a loan. “Money factor” is the way leases express that cost, and it changes how expensive the monthly payment is.

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lease penetration

"In addition to that, you know, some of these money factors, know, some of these, you know, Mercedes was always pretty high lease penetration."

Lease penetration just means how often people choose leasing instead of buying for a certain brand. If a brand has high lease penetration, more shoppers are leasing those cars.

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Mercedes S class

"And they were telling me about Mercedes right now in the States running He said 14 month leases on S classes. And it was the price that you told me you could get an S class for on a 14 month lease was just insane."

The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is Mercedes’ top luxury car. They’re talking about how, in the U.S., you could lease one for a surprisingly low monthly cost for a short lease period.

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Toyota Tundras

"Yeah, every now and then you get those pretty exceptional leases. know Toyota, when I was there, we had some pretty amazing leases on the Tundras."

The Toyota Tundra is Toyota’s big pickup truck. They’re using it as an example of a time when lease deals on trucks were unusually good.

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AI fatigue

"So I think definitely a champion or somebody ⁓ drive your forward right now in this industry and all the turmoil and drama going on is a key thing. And if you know how to do that, then Follow the Automotive Informants podcast or reach out to my friend Peter here."

“AI fatigue” means people get tired of AI tools that don’t feel helpful or that produce annoying, low-quality results. The point is that AI needs to be set up well so people actually want to use it.

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one throat to choke

"just add on to that because I find it comical. Everywhere go, they say one throat to choke. Well, look back to June of 2024 with CDK and what happened when we had one throat to choke."

They’re talking about a risk where too much of a dealership’s work depends on one main computer system or vendor. If that vendor has problems, the whole dealership can get stuck.

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