The Cars That Best Hold Their Value: Ep 122

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Welcome to the AutoGuide Show, this week we talk to IC cars about vehicles that hold their

value the best on the used market and there's actually quite a few surprises. I review the

Viofo dash cam that's one of the most technologically banned systems I've ever used and in the mailbag

it is all about camping. Take a short break and be right back.

All right, welcome back. We have a returning guest, Carl. Welcome back to the show. If you

could just introduce or reintroduce yourselves to our listeners. Absolutely, Mike. Thanks for

having me on. I am Carl Brower, the executive analyst at iccars.com. I've been there for, wow,

it's going on six years soon, which is just crazy to me. But before that, I was the executive

publisher of AutoTrader and Kelly Blue Book, executive editor at Edmunds.com, spent some time in

the super street world for pre, pre fast and furious doing JDM stuff and import tuner stuff

and all. So yeah, I've been around this industry far longer than I probably want to think about

too much. But yeah, it's been fun. Yeah, it's funny because you don't feel like you're getting that

old, but someone asked me the same thing. And I was like, I'm thinking about 25 years because I

started working when I was 19. So yeah, it adds up. Yeah, no, when I hit 30 years in the industry,

I was like, wait a second, that means I'm not counting years. So the reason for you to visit

this time is a study that just came out about what cars are holding their value the best.

Is it the usual players that we always hear how crazy the industry has been these last couple

years or are there some big changes? You know, it's pretty standard procedure. I think what's

more interesting to me is how cars are retaining more of their five year value in 2026 than they

did in 25 in every category, every type of vehicle, which just shows that this ongoing kind of supply

demand imbalance that started as we all know with COVID and caused crazy value changes for

vehicles in the new and used car market is still with us. And I think we've had a tiny teensy bit

of inflation in the last six years too. So between those two things, you know, what I used to consider

about a $20,000, $20,500 was the price that I would, I would think would be about a one to

five year old used car's average price and our data confirmed that. And all of a sudden it's

about a 30. So it's 50% increase in a one to five year old used vehicles price just as a general

rule of thumb compared to 56 years ago. And that's painful. But yeah, if you look at like

specifics, you know, I thought it was interesting because the overall market was only depreciating

41.8%. And the previous year was 45.6%. So we're about 4% less depreciation on the average one to

five year old car. But then you go into individual categories like hybrids are only losing 35.4%.

Trucks are only losing 34.2%. And then SUVs are 44.9. So they're a little bit more than the average

because probably there's just so many of them. And then electric vehicles are 57.2. So that average

41.8 swings around a bit once you go into specific vehicle types. Yeah, these are having a rough

go right now. We'll get into that in a second. Do you think part of this could be just with how

ridiculously expensive cars are getting? I mean, we talked about the inflation and I was updating

an article not too long ago, and it was written in 2022. And without calling out the specific

model, there's a small pickup that I love. And it was 22,000 in 2022. And now it's 30,000. And yes,

a trim changed, but a lot of that's just where the price is gone. Well, if it's the vehicle,

I think you're talking about I think that one was one that clearly the manufacturer realized,

holy crap, we could sell a lot more of these for a lot higher price because they were being

emptied out at dealership lots because you were getting, it was 2022 and you were getting,

wait for it, value for your new car money. And I don't think there's a lot of

value in a lot of the new car money right now, but you did get it from that small truck. And

unfortunately, like everything in a capitalist society, once they saw the streaming demand

going on to the lots and pulling those cars off of them as fast as they could produce them,

they said, Hey, I bet we could charge more. And you know, if we get a 20%, 30% bump in cost,

and we only lose 15% in demand, that's a net win for us. Do it. So there we are.

Yeah. And I think people, people know things are getting more expensive because everything is,

it's not just cars, it's food, it's gas, it's, you know, home supplies. But I think until you

look deep down at it, you see the real sticker shock. So I was just looking because I love the

new Subaru Uncharted that they just brought out as an EV, even as it's just small, it's

pretty affordable. So it's like, I'm going to price one out. And I couldn't believe what the monthly

payments were, even though it's residuals decent, it's interest rate on the lease payments aren't

that bad. And there's a tax credit still here in Ontario, Canada. I just, oh, that's how expensive

cars are. And I was like, I remember when I used to laugh at people who pay this much a month on

a lease like 20 years ago, I mean, that's a while, but still it's crazy. We've gotten there.

No, I, I, you know, again, been in the industry too long, obviously, because I still have

memories of the average new car being in the 20,000s and used cars would be like half that,

you know, and now it's again, 30,000 for an average used car and close to twice that 50 to,

you know, 50 plus give or take for a new car. So we've just entered a different world. And what's

fascinating is to see how older cars are being kept on the road longer. You've probably noticed

that too, Mike, but there's just become a real kind of cottage industry. I mean, the industry

that already existed, but it just keeps growing for maintaining your car. So service stations and,

and, you know, maintenance centers and stuff like that, dealers, but also independence.

They've got more business than ever because people are looking at the prices that you just

mentioned when they look at a new vehicle by or lease and they're like, maybe I'll just keep

my car for a while. You're preaching to me because I have a 2014 Forrester Turbo XT that has 250,000

plus kilometers. So we're talking about 150 something thousand miles and it has thousands

put into it because basically the engine had to be semi rebuilt with head gasket and all the

stuff before I got it. But it was still so much more affordable than getting something five years

newer with half the miles that knowing the vehicle and knowing the shop and mechanics

went out are basically the same mechanically. So I think we're seeing more of those these high

mile cars that, you know, five, especially 10 years ago, something in that condition,

it's off to the junkyard to be pulled apart by people wanting bits. But I think these cars are

getting the overhauls because the parts are still expensive, but it's still better.

Back to the study. Were there any models? Let's start with surprises. Were there any models

that you couldn't believe? Wow, this is really holding its value that maybe historically didn't

or just surprises you for whatever reason. Is there like any specific car or SUV or EV?

Yeah, I'll tell you one, which is and it doesn't really surprise me. It just

it illustrates how far the cars come in the modern world. And that's the Chevrolet Corvette.

You know, the Corvette wasn't necessarily a good retainer of value because General Motors,

like a lot of the car companies out there that produce that are supposed to be producing special

unique cars, they don't follow the Enzo Ferrari rule. Remember, Enzo's rule was how many are

you going to make? And he said one less than we can sell. You know, he was a big believer in

limited production and making sure that the cars that did get produced may retain their value.

And a lot of car companies and GM and Chevrolet would definitely be guilty of this in past

Corvettes. It's like, how many can we sell? How many can we sell? So you just, you know,

and then there'd be like the more specialized version and then they'd make a bunch of those

and there'd be, you know, whatever trim level name you want to attach, there's a million of them.

And none of them would ever really retain their value that well. Well, the new Corvette C8

for multiple reasons. It's an all new platform with the mid-engine for the first time in the

Corvette's history. It hit right when COVID was hitting. Well, actually, there were some strikes

going on and all that. That reduced production. And then right when that was getting fixed,

COVID hit. It's like the Corvette couldn't get a nice clean run on production for a while after

it was introduced with this new mid-engine platform. And now, of course, they've come out with some

crazy high-end versions too. But, you know, it's the third best vehicle for retaining its value,

five-year value right now, right behind the Porsche 718 Cayman and the Porsche 911

and ahead of the Toyota Tacoma. Now, if someone would have told me 234 years ago,

yeah, when you do your 2026 top cars for retaining value, the Corvette will be number three.

Below the 911 and above the Tacoma, I would probably wouldn't have believed them.

I think a lot of that too is just the, I guess the right words, respect the Corvette has,

because as someone who's always really liked the Corvettes, and I looked at trying to get a used

one for a long time now. I remember when C4 Corvettes were so cheap, even the 90s when they

kind of turned things around, but with how the strides they made from C5 to then C6 and 7 and

now the new one, every generation kept getting better and was sort of at the top of its class.

I think people, there's like a whole new generation who's only grown up on those,

because their used car values are ridiculous too. Whereas, like you said, Corvettes,

you could buy them pretty cheap many years later, probably with single owner and someone who didn't

drive it much, you can get a great performance deal. But yeah, like even the old C4s now,

they've become like classics, sadly, and they're going up in price. There's no more

sub $10,000 clean examples, really. So I'm not surprised the C8's doing that. Well,

I just can't believe it's that high. And the two Porsches up there, I mean, yeah, yeah.

That's no surprise there. They're like Chevy, I don't think they can build enough 911s and

make enough different special editions to satisfy demand. But it's also interesting,

I mean, two of those top three models are name plates that have 60 plus years of existence.

So you kind of, where's the, just I have no idea, where's like the Mustang, let's say in there,

because it's another one that's been around. Does it still have that sort of name or the Wrangler,

or they don't hold as well? It's number 13 in the top 25. So it's certainly in the top 25

world, but it's not, it's about halfway down, but that's still relative to all the vehicles

that could have been on this list. That's pretty good. Another interesting one that

as a Subaru guy that you were just talking about, number seven is the BRZ. So that's really cool.

Yeah, yeah, it makes the top 10. It's interesting because it's not a massive sell. I mean,

it sells well for what it is. Subaru and Toyota with their twin have done a good job, but

they're not limiting them and they make special editions, but they're usually paint. Some of

the newer ones have actually some mechanical bits, but it's interesting that it's so high

because I keep predicting it was going to be the next car that, you know, all the second,

third owner kids will be driving. Like right now it's my old car, the Genesis Coupe, it seems,

but if it's holding its value, maybe not, maybe it'll be something else unexpected.

Well, sometimes I think Mike too, there are those kind of cars that like,

especially if they're not super big sellers, that end up having this kind of weird thing where like

there's not a lot of new car demand for whatever reason, but there's so much appreciation from

the used market, you know, it's kind of like the opposite. And like, if you go look at the

list of the 25 cars that are losing the most value, which of course we have in this study too,

you know, it's, there's a lot of electric vehicles, of course, but then there's,

there's almost all luxury vehicles. And that's been true since, you know, the beginning of time,

right? And the reason is that a new car buyer typically is not as price sensitive and they

will go buy something because of a badge or because of a trim level or a feature that they just want.

That oftentimes the used market will not put at that same value. That's why you use electric vehicles

won't sell, you know, lose so much value. And that's why a lot of electric, sorry, a lot of

premium badges, because a lot of used car buyers are more, much more bottom line functionality

like I need the car to get from point A to point B. I don't care what the hood emblem says.

And that's why premium vehicles tend to drop more on the used market. Well,

the flip side is that used buyers tend to look for good value. And so if the BRZ

on the used market is seen as a relatively low production, you know, low availability vehicle

that gives a pretty high degree of fun and all back for what you're paying. That's exactly what

will push up a vehicle. So there's not like you're saying there's not a lot of new car buyers that

are cranking those out, but that just means the used market isn't full of them. And there's enough

people out there that recognize the value of fun you get. And so they hold value.

Yeah, like you said, they're not that expensive to begin with. They're one of the most affordable

things out there. Yes. Yeah. So it's even if it's holding its value, you're still getting a bit of

a deal. So you brought up a point there and I'm wondering if it's still true because I remember

I found this back in the day, but when it comes to used cars, it seems as you said,

trims aren't as important. And I remember looking into that once where the gap from like a base

to a fully loaded trim of a certain vehicle when it's new is could be big. But then on the used

market, you can almost get the same trim for the same price and it sort of condition becomes a

bigger factor. So you could always get a little more value. Is that still the case? Or are you

seeing like higher end trims are holding their value a little better now? No, I think that's

generally the case. There's obviously the kind of models that'll have something very unique or

special on the trim. And it depends on how you just define trim. Is an M3 a trim of a three

series or is it a whole nother model? I think generally people think of them as a whole nother

model. And so they'll be on a different depreciation curve than your average three series. But once

you're within what is seen as pretty much just minimal trim differences on most vehicles,

as you said, they kind of collapse. The variation collapses in value compared to new.

So we talked very briefly about the bottom 25. We've talked a lot about how expensive cars are

and used cars. Is there anything that stood out in that 25 or even maybe just outside of the list

that is seems like such a great value, like a great used car by where you're getting a solid

dependable car yet the value for whatever reason isn't being retained from original price?

You know, I mean, it depends on what your needs are, obviously, but I look at something like

one of the top ones that dropped was the Infinity QX80. And among the reasons that thing is both

a it's an expensive car when it's new and it's a premium car. And you can get almost the same car

with the Nissan badge. And there's an all new one, but it's finally right, like how long was that

car gone for not having to redesign. And now there's an all new one. So that's number two,

the number one car that lost the most value is losing the most value in five year depreciation

is the Nissan Leaf electric car. And again, pretty much the same car from launch, right? I mean,

it went from 100 to 150 mile range, and it had, you know, an outside exterior refresh, but it was

the same basic car all that time. And then a new one hit, well, EVs in general and EVs that were

the same for 10 plus years and finally get a replacement, that's going to kill their resale

value because people know there's a newer, much newer, much better version. So that's number one.

And then infinity QX80 number two, similar again, same car for such a long time, plus a luxury car

and a fairly expensive new car. Now there's a brand new one finally replacing it. But was there

anything really wrong with that QX80? You know, I mean, I think, and the armada is on here too,

but again, because it's so funny, the armada is number 19 and the QX80 is number two. So there's

your premium versus non premium trim thing, essentially the same car, one of them you had to

pay much more for than the other because of the premium name and the used car buyer won't,

won't give you that benefit, won't pay more for the premium name. So they drop more in value.

But either of those vehicles, if you were looking for a large three row SUV,

I don't see those as like bad cars. And I think, you know, well, and I got the average price here

now it's 52 for the QX80 and the armada is 33. So 33,000. So you get a $20,000 savings basically

on the arm on the Nissan version of the same basic car. And to me, a $33,000 Nissan armada

is in a bad deal on a big three row SUV that's going to probably have some good durability in

long term life. Yeah, that'd be a, I don't know if you've ever done a full study on that or if

anyone has, but that'd be an interesting study. When a vehicle comes out that's all new, that's

so good. Does it really hurt the resell of the old one? Because the QX80 and the armada, the new

ones, the old ones, you're right, they weren't bad cars, but they were probably both of the back

of the pack because they were so old and they're just dated. We did some comparisons and that's

where they landed. And then these new ones are phenomenal. Like they're right up there with the

top, especially the QX80. So I wonder how many QX80 owners like their SUV. And I'm like, oh,

I want that new one. And they're trying to get rid of it and, and floods the market. Yeah. That's

exactly what happens, Mike, is that finally when a new one comes out, people who were hanging on to

the previous one rush out for the new one, especially if it's much better, like you're

saying, which is the case for both the Leaf and the QX80 and armada. And the used car market tends

to flood because now people are finally turning over to the next one. Yeah. I mean, that new Leaf,

I had it over the holidays for three weeks and it's fully livable. The only real drawback is that

new shape kills the trunk space, which the old one had ample. But as far as the new VEgos and

even snowboard everything, it's good. So I could see Leaf owners were pretty dedicated to their

vehicle. So I could see them wanting to, to switch up and, and EVs. Yeah, there's such a,

the first generation of them, their batteries depleted so much on the used market. And that's

not really the case anymore, but I still think it's that stigma and worry. So it's really hard to,

to get rid of one. Do, so is there is like Lexus still the brand that's sort of leading this pack

or something else up there? You know, it's funny you say that Lexus is usually right there. Now,

you know, when you go to the top 10, you got those three sports cars, the two Porsches,

the Corvette, then two Tacomas, Tundra, Tundra, sorry, two Toyotas, Tacoma and Tundra, Civic,

BRZ, GR Supra, another interesting car in the top 10, RAV4 and Corolla Hatchback. So just to be

clear on the top 10, 123456 of them are Toyota products, six of the top

10 are Toyotas. So that tells you a lot. And then number 11 is the forerunner. So, so, you know,

seven of the top 11. But there's actually no, God, there's no Lexus on our list here, which is

interesting. So it must, yeah, they must have just not been able to hold up quite as well as

their lower cost brethren. But again, premium vehicles, they always suffer compared to them,

to the volume brand. I'm actually, I'm looking at the list. And besides, I think we'd all agree,

Porsche is a premium. Oh, there's a Lexus RC 300 and 350, sorry. So the coupe, the Lexus coupe.

Really, of all the vehicles. Which again, like the BRZ, like the GR Supra that's on here and all,

like the Corvette and all to some extent, these are not high volume new cars. And so if you don't

have a lot of these cars being sold as new, and then they enter the used market, which we know is

huge, right? Remember, Mike, like we get excited if we hit 17 million new vehicle sales in a year,

that same year, we'll see 45 50 million used vehicles change hand. So the use car market is

much bigger. So when you have a limited production of a new car that's entering the use car market,

right there, it's got an advantage on resale value because you're tripling the size of the

potential buyer base as a car goes from new to used. The Supra is interesting because we all

kind of get on it about how expensive is to buy. And it's interesting it's holding its value in

use. But I guess because again, it's not selling that much and it's been discontinued. So there's

always that factor where people are can't get a new one. So if they want one, they're probably

trying to race out and get the closest thing to knew they can buy. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of

people on that on that car real quick on the Supra, a lot of people on that car, they gave it,

you know, undeserved, you know, not untrue criticism of being a BMW in a Toyota body and stuff.

And it's like, yeah, that is totally true. By the way, have you driven it? It's one of the

nicest driving. Do BMWs suck to drive? Okay. So yeah, believe it or not, the Toyota Supra version

of a BMW isn't a bad driver at all. In fact, it's quite an incredibly good driver and stuff. So again,

I think you get to the used market and there's people who are less worried about that. They're

just like, how much car can I get for the money and how fun is it? I'll take it. Yeah. It's like,

you know, how good that engine in the M2 and M3 is imagine it in a far smaller body and then

right go rip around in it. The Corolla hatchbacks I just think because it's sort of the forgotten

Corolla, but I guess that's part of it is they probably don't sell us money and it's so

affordable to begin with. It's not going to lose much value and it's got the Corolla name attached

to it. So it's sort of a win. Maybe that's something, someone who's looking to buy a car

for just a couple of years, I should recommend and say, Hey, buy the Corolla hatch. It'll be

economical, cheap to buy, and then you'll be able to flip it for a lot of money at the end.

100%. And that's another one of those cars like Toyota has a brand, you know,

Akio really was like no more boring cars years ago. And I feel like that brand has largely

lived up to that. I mean, I get in like even a modern Camry and certainly the Corolla. The Corolla

is probably one of the vehicles that has most transformed personality wise to me in the last

like five to 10 years in that the Civic and the Corolla were direct competitors. Both of them had

the same high value, long life, you know, good fuel efficiency characteristics wasn't even close

to which one I'd rather drive on a daily basis. Okay, the Civic was just a far more entertaining

and, you know, like user interface, man machine interface connected vehicle with steering feel

and all that. And all of a sudden, I'm driving Corollas over the last five plus years, I'm like,

What the heck happened? This thing's fun, you know, and so the Corolla is now a very in the

hatchback seems to have a little extra tuning. And of course, then you can get into the GR

things and all that. But the Corolla is now a fun to drive car like that, like the Civic. And I

but yet it's still got all the Toyota refinement last forever too.

Did you see a similar thing that we're talking about the

Armada and Leaf and whatnot with the Prius a couple years ago? I know it wouldn't have been

in the bottom 25. But with how good that new Prius is, did it kind of hurt the old Prius

resell or do people not care just because it's the Prius? It's funny you say that number 25

barely making the list Toyota Prius. And we could and we know a good chunk of that's going to be

the previous gen because this is one to five year old cars and the new Prius has been out since

23. So so I think what that says to me is that for all the improvements on the new Prius and I'm

a huge fan of it. And it still feels weird when I hear that come out of my I'm a huge fan of the

Toyota Prius. But I am because the new one is so good on so many levels. But I think that car's

long term appeal from 23 years now is 25 four years five is fuel efficiency. And especially

right now people can probably relate to it. But the new one's cool looking and it drives even

better. It's kind of engaging to drive, which is a little weird when you're in it and stuff.

But most people are buying that car for fuel efficiency. And they've been good at that for 20

plus years. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And people love them for various commercial rules too. Like there's

so many cabs and deliveries. So I think there's always going to be movers and stuff. Yeah. Yeah,

they're always showing up as an Uber for me. Well, we could go on forever talking about cars,

I think, but I should probably let you go and we'll save some more topics for the next time

you're on because you definitely welcome back. And I'm sure, you know, the turbulent market we

live in right now and things will be very different probably in six months. As I like to say, Mike,

the automotive industry is never boring. I keep telling myself and others that I can't imagine

getting more interesting and I keep being proven wrong. So yeah, who knows where we'll be in another

six months on any of these topics. All right. Well, thank you again for joining us, Carl. And

we'll talk to you soon. Take care, Mike. Now on to our product review, which is let me get this

right. The VOFO A329S three channel dash cam. Now what this is, is it's actually three dash

cams in one kit. There's the main center unit that goes on your windshield that shoots forward.

And is what a traditional dash cam has always been. There's also a big lcd screen on the back

so you can see what you're recording. And there's various buttons and lots of menu functions and

whatnot. You can control with it. There's a secondary camera that is posted on the front

windshield as well. And that is actually a fisheye camera that records everything in the interior.

And now the third camera, it goes on your rear window to capture everything behind. So this

gives you sort of a full coverage of what's going on while you're on the road as it's looking forward

backwards and what's happening inside. And that's important in case of any incidents or collisions

or situations on the road that you need some video proof that you were not on the wrong,

it isn't just capturing what happened in front behind you but also what you are doing at the time.

The system is so clear. It's a 4k camera at the front and the other two are 2k and the front

camera also does 60 frames per second. On the app, there are so many customizable options and like

most modern dash cams, there's a whole bunch of security features that you can use the camera for

if you're hardwired into the car, especially when it's parked so you can make sure nothing happens

to your vehicle when you're not with it and it's unattended. It's not the most affordable system,

but as I said in my review, it's sort of like the Cadillac of dash cams. You're paying a

good amount of money to buy it, but you're also getting a lot of camera or actually cameras in

the situation and the cables to connect them are very thin so it's really easy to tuck into the

trim. So I put it in my 2014 Forester XT and you don't see any of the wires except for the three

from the dash leading up into the headliner. So yeah, if you're looking for a high-end multi-channel

or three-channel camera system, so far I really like this. It's quite easy to download onto the

phone. The Wi-Fi system built into the camera is so much faster than a lot of other dash cams I've

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Moving on to our mail bag. So this week we had a reader ask, what is the best car for camping?

Well, funny you should ask because many years ago I wrote an article called the best cars for

camping, 10 great choices. So you prompted me to revisit this article and update it. Now pretty

much any vehicle could go camping. I mean, I took four people in an F-body Camaro camping for a

weekend once and put all our stuff in there. So it just depends on how practical and comfortable

you want to be with the camping. What I've listed here are vehicles that can either venture deep

off-road to get you to those remote camping spots, can tow heavy trailers, or just offer a lot of

space inside. So I have things like the Subaru Crosstrek and the Wilderness, sorry Wilderness,

and the Outback Wilderness both offer quite a bit of space and comfort for four. They can both

venture pretty far off-road. If you really need to go deep into the bush, there's the Jeep Rubicon

four-door. It's surprising the amount of cargo space behind the rear seats and you can't put

four people in and any of these vehicles you can always put a roof topper on. If you're more of a

travel trailer type person, can't go wrong with a Chevrolet Suburban. It can tow a lot and carry a

lot of people. Any pickup truck capable of having a fifth wheel, obviously you can tow a sizeable

trailer as well. If big SUVs and big pickups are too much but you still want to tow a decent amount,

the Ford Maverick, it can tow up to 4,000 pounds and it still seats four people and with a cover

over the bed, it has a lot of storage space and then you can also have that trailer off the back.

Luxury-wise, any of the Land Rovers are going to do the trick really well. Volvo as well.

The V90 Cross Country, that's another excellent choice. It's sort of like a fancier outback.

It's got over eight inches of ground clearance. It drives like a big wagon and lots of space.

It's one of my favorite choices. When you're looking for something to go camping,

first question you should ask yourself is what kind of camping do you want to do? Are you going

solo and just to a state, provincial or national park with a set site in some facilities then?

Anything will really work. If you're going with more people, you might need a wagon or SUV just

to carry the stuff. If you're going off-grid camping where you're driving somewhere remote and there

are no facilities, well that's when you might want to get into a more rugged SUV to make sure you

get to your destination and more importantly get back from it. And then if you're going to a place

that has trailer hookups just to make sure whatever SUV or truck you're going to use far exceeds the

tow rating of the trailer you're taking because remember all the people in gear you take in your

vehicle counts against that tow rating and you always want to have something that's capable

of towing more than your actual load because it'll just perform better on the road. Anyway,

that wraps it up for the AutoGuide show this week. We'll be back next week with some more news and

reviews and the mailbag and until then we will see you later.

The Cars That Best Hold Their Value: Ep 122

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