00:00
Orsomethingmaybethatasalespersoncoulduse.
00:03
Ithinkthethefirstmaybe30or40videos,andIdon'trecommendthis,Iwasfocusedonstraighthumor.
00:11
AndIwaslike,I'mjustgonnadoit.
00:12
I'mjustgonnawingit.
00:15
Youknow,there'sthere'sapartinthevideo,it'sstillonYouTube.
00:18
YoucangowatchmyfirstYouTubevideo.
00:20
IlookatthecameraguyandI'mlike,whatshouldItalkaboutnext?
00:24
Isthisreallyabusiness?
00:25
Arepeoplereallygonnapaymetotraintheirsalespeopletodosocialmedia?
00:30
Youknow,I'vehadsomepeoplethatwanttodoin-persontrainingwithme,whichisreallyexpensive.
00:33
AndI'mlike,look,look,look,look,look,look,look.
00:35
Youhavenobodycurrentlydoingthis.
00:37
Like,let'sstartonline.
00:38
Seeifwecanmovetheneedle.
00:39
ThenextTonyRobbins,maybeinthemaking,you'regonnabeuptherechangingpeople'slives?
00:44
Imean,uhuh,Godwilling,Ithinkthatwouldbeanamazingthingtodo.
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WelcomebacktotheDougHornerShow.
01:16
I'mherewithRussFlipsWhips,theman,themyth,thelegendhimself.
01:20
Russ,thankyouformakingtimeformetoday.
01:23
Thatisuhthatisquitetheintro.
01:29
AndRuss,Igiveyoucreditforkindofbeingthefirstshortformautomotiveinfluencerthatwasn'tjustreviewingcars.
01:38
OrIthinkwhenIthinkofkindofsocialmediaautomotive,ItendtothinkofpeoplelikeDougDeMurooruhHoovie'sGarage,likepeoplethathavebeendoingcarreviewsandandandYouTubebasically.
01:48
Butyeah,yousortofblewupfirstintheshortformworld.
01:52
AndIjustwanttogobackforpeoplethatdon'tknowthestory.
01:56
WhatmadeyoujustonedaydecideI'mgonnastartmakingvideosandputtingthemonline?
02:02
Yeah,yeah,andthat'sthat'suhthat'sanexcellentquestion.
02:04
Andyouknow,andtoanyonelistening,liketheshortanswerisIjuststarted.
02:10
Now,thelonganswerisIwasworkingatasmallfamily-ownedLincolndealershipinPittsburgh,Pennsylvania,inahypercompetitivemarketwithatthattimesixotherLincolndealersinthe30-mileradius,whichisjustabsolutelyinsanethattheyallowedthattobetheremany,thatmany.
02:25
Um,afewshutdown,um,andtherewasreallyfourformostofmycareer.
02:30
Butasaguywhowassellingeightcarsamonth,madelike35grandmyfirstyear,um,youknow,whenIwasinhighschoolsellingcars,whichisawholedifferentstory,Ithoughtitwascooltolikebringhomeanother3K,2500,whatever.
02:42
I'mlike,thisisgreat.
02:44
Um,youknow,I'mlivingwithmygrandma,startlookingathouses,andI'mlike,yeah,Idon't,Idon't,Idon't,IthinkI'mlivinginpovertybecauseIcan'tevenbuylikethecheapesthouseonthemarket.
02:54
Andsomethinginmewasjustlike,okay,Russ,yougrewup,youknow,prettypoor.
03:01
Youdon'tknowanyonewho'sgonnabuyLincoln.
03:03
You're19yearsold,noneofyourfriendsaregonnacomebuyanewLincoln.
03:06
YoufoundyourwaytothisLincolndealershipwhoyoulovetheowners,youlovetheGM,youlovetheculturehere.
03:11
Howdowemakethiswork?
03:13
AndIwaslike,IjustneedmorepeopletoknowwhoIamthatmighthavemoneytocomebuythesecars.
03:18
Anditstartedonalittlebitofluck.
03:20
Ithinkyouknow,somepeoplewillcallitluck,somepeoplewillcallitseizingtheopportunity.
03:23
ThebrandnewLincolnAviator,unannounced,showedupatourdealership.
03:27
AndIthinkthathappensateverydealership.
03:28
Like,oh,Ididn'tknowweweregettingthattoday.
03:30
AndIsaidtomyfriend,Iwaslike,dude,I'mjustgonnamakeaYouTubevideo.
03:32
ThisI'veseen,youknow,DougDeMure,I'veseenalltheseguysdoreviews.
03:35
I'mlike,IthinkI'mgonnabeatthemtothepunch.
03:37
Ihaven'tseenoneonthenewAviard.
03:39
II'veseensomelikestagedoneswhereit'slikeatafactoryshow,butlikenoone'sreallygottheirhandsonit.
03:46
Noone'slikeopenedupthegloveboxandmovedtheseatsaround.
03:49
AndIwaslike,I'mjustgonnadoit,I'mjustgonnawingit.
03:53
Youknow,there'sthere'sapartinthevideo,it'sstillonYouTube.
03:56
YoucangowatchmyfirstYouTubevideo.
03:58
IlookatthecameraguyandI'mlike,whatshouldItalkaboutnext?
04:02
AndIdidn'tevenbothertoedititout.
04:03
It'sit'sit'sliterallyinthere,andhe'slike,showhimthescreen,showhimthescreen.
04:08
SoIstartedlikegoingthroughthetouchscreen,clickingallthebuttons,anditactuallyblewupforaYouTubevideo150,000views.
04:14
Ihadreceivedsomeleads.
04:15
Isoldthatcarfromthatvideo,andI'llneverforget,I'm19yearsold,Iwasn'treallysellingmanycars,andI'mpullingourfirstaviatorofftheshowroom,andoneoftheoldschoolveteransislike,Whatareyoudoing?
04:25
Whyareyoupullingoff?
04:27
He'slike,Ididn'tseeyouwithacustomer.
04:29
Iwaslike,YouTubesale,bro.
04:32
Andlikeitwasjustitwasjustsocool.
04:34
AndthatwaskindoflikeCavemandiscoveredfire.
04:37
I'mlike,wehavesomethinghere.
04:39
SoImean,tomyadvantage,Ididseesuccessfromthefirstvideo,whichIpreachtopeopleisn'tcommon,isn'talwaysgonnahappen.
04:46
Soitdidhelpmotivateme.
04:49
ButIstartedtoansweryourquestionjustbecauseIwantedmorepeopletoknowwhoIwas.
04:53
Okay,andthat'sfair.
04:54
Imean,Lincolndealership,you'reayoungkidatthetime,thebrandisn'treallyassociatedwithyoungpeople,soIcanunderstandlookingforawaytostandout.
05:04
Atwhatpointdidyoudecideordidyourealizethatokay,thisisreallysomethingandIhavetobedoingthiseveryday?
05:13
Andthenwasthataboutthesametimethatyoustartedmakingkindoflikemoreofthesketcheswhereyou'rehighlightinginteractionsthataconsumerandadealerwouldhave?
05:23
Yeah,sosolikemanypeople,Iwasveryinconsistentatthestart.
05:28
EventhoughIknewitworkedandIsawit,itwasn'tlikeeventhoughIwaslikeformeatthattimeobsessedwaslikeaYouTubevideoeveryotherweek,onceamonth.
05:37
LikeIstillwasn'ttakingitsuperseriously,butIwas,youknow,onmycontentjourney.
05:42
Um,COVIDhappened,we'renotatthedealership,andIstartedgoingin.
05:47
Iwasthefirstsalespersonallowedback,youknow,andthatwasforlikeawholemonth.
05:51
AndI'mlike,man,thisiskindofcool.
05:52
Igotthewholeshowroomtomyself.
05:54
Icanlikereallydosomelikereallygoodcontenthere.
05:56
BecauseatthetimeIwasprettynervous,actually.
05:58
Ididn'tlikerecordinginfrontofpeople.
05:59
IfyouwatchthatfirstYouTubevideo,it'sinfrontofeverybody,andIwaslikereallyawkward,andthenasyouseethecontentprogress,there'snobodyelseinthevideos,andthat'sbecauseIlikemadeitapointtodoitlikewhennoonewasintheshowroom.
06:12
AndCassie,mywife,waslike,youneedtogetonTikTok.
06:16
Like,thisiswhereit'sat.
06:17
AndI'mlike,nah,TikTok'sforyouknowkidsandyouknow,dancing,andIdon'tdoanyofthat.
06:21
Youknow,IhadseenTikTokandIhadactuallyhadtheappandIenjoyedit,butI'mlike,you'renotgonnasellcarsfromlikeYouTubeiswherepeoplegotodotheirresearch.
06:30
Yeah,andIrememberIhadseensomepeopleonTikTok,carsalesguys,likedoingsomesomegood,likeseriouscontent.
06:37
SoIhadstartedjustliketalkingtothecamera,andthosearereallybad.
06:41
II'vereallyneverdeletedavideounlessitwaslikeinappropriateandyouknow,badjudgmentcallmyendandneededtodelete.
06:48
Butbadcontent,200views,they'reallup.
06:51
Andthey'rethey'reprettybadinthebeginning.
06:54
ThisisprobablysixmonthsintotheTikTokjourneywhenthecustomerknowsmorethanthesalesperson.
07:02
And30seconds,mybrotherwalksup,hewasworkingatthedealershipwithme.
07:06
He'slike,Hey,youneedanyhelpouthere,sir?
07:07
AndIwaslike,Nope,Iknowmoreaboutthiscarthanyoudo,andyouyoucankindofenvisiontherestofthevideo.
07:12
AndIdidn'twanttopostit,Ithoughtitwascringe,Ihadneverreallyactedoncamera.
07:16
Idon'tevenknowifIwasacting,itwasjustkindofpretendingtobelikeacustomerIhadearlierintheweek,anditwentviral,gotlikethreemillionviewsonTikTok,andthat'swhereIbecamelikeIcan'tthinkofabetterwordotherthanlikeaddicted.
07:28
Like,oh,IandIcrackedthecode,andI'malwaysdissectingwhatI'mdoing,andIcametotheconclusionentertainingeducationalcontentthatcaterstotheconsumerandnotacarsalespersonwillgetmeviews,likes,comments,shares,followers,andsales.
07:45
Andthatisifyouwanttolikegetamasterclassonsocialmedia,goonmyTikTok.
07:51
Ithinkyoucandothisonmobilenow.
07:53
Youusedtonotbeabletosortfrommostpopulartoleastpopular,andthere'sabout400videosthathaveoveramillionviews,andtheyallhavethesamecommontheme.
08:02
Russmakingcontentthataconsumerwouldenjoyandfindfunnyandandareeducating.
08:09
Yeah,thatwaswasitalwaysthemissiontokindofdropsomeeducationintothevideos,ordidthatjustsortofstarthappening?
08:19
Like,wasitmeanttobejustthis'llbefunnyandconsumerscanIidentifywithit?
08:23
OrwasitlikeIwantittobefunny,butalsohavelikesomethinghelpfulmixedin,likeashoppingstrategyorsomethingmaybethatasalespersoncoulduse?
08:34
Yeah,Ithinkthethefirstmaybe30or40videos,andIdon'trecommendthis,Iwasfocusedonstraighthumor.
08:43
Justthere'saplaceforthat,buthumorcontent,youdon'twanttobeknownastheheeheehahafunnyguybecausethatonlygetsyousofar.
08:51
AndIknowsomeguyswhorunsomesocialmediaatacardealershipandlike,yeah,TikTokdoesn'tsellcars.
08:56
Well,dude,you'rejustpeopledon'ttakeyouseriously.
08:58
Andthankfully,youknow,Iwassoobsessedwithcontent,Iwaslike,youknow,justlike,what'snext?
09:03
WhatcanIsprinklein?
09:05
AndI'mtryingtorememberlikethefirstlikestraighteducationalvideothatblewup.
09:10
Ithinkitwassmartcustomertradesintheirlease.
09:14
Anditwaslikekindoffunny,youknow.
09:15
IdidliketheKaren,like,no,no,no,salesguy,goaskyourmanager.
09:18
Icantradeinmylease,Ihaveequity,Ididtheresearch.
09:21
Soitwaslikefunny,butliketherewasalsopeoplelikewhotrulydidn'tknowyoucouldtradeinalease,youknow.
09:27
AndIthinkthisisanycarsalespersonlisteningisone,wedothiseveryday.
09:32
Sowethinksomethingsarecommonsense.
09:34
Oh,ofcourseyouhaveleaseequity,ofcourseyoucangetoutofyourleaseanytime.
09:37
Somepeopledon'tknowthat.
09:38
Yeah,youknow,somepeopledon'tknowthatyoucould,becausealotofpeopleequatethewordleasewithlikerentingahouse.
09:44
Youcan'ttradeinyourapartment,youknow,youcan'tgetoutofitearlyandhaveequity.
09:47
Andyouknow,thosetimesarekindoffadingaway.
09:50
SoImighthavehitthatvideoattheperfecttime,youknow,2022,alotofpeoplecomingoffleasefrompre-COVIDwiththree,four,six.
09:58
I'msureyou'veseensomeMercedes,maybeevensomeGWagonorsomethingcrazyequityinthem.
10:04
AndthatstyleofcontentInoticedactuallyhadalotofpeople,likeIhadbeenreceivingleadsforyears,butneverlikeahundredinaday.
10:14
Yeah,nevergottenthousandsoffollowers,andyou'veprobablyseenallthissuccessaswell.
10:18
It'slike,ohwow,likewhenyoustarttolikegivepeoplethetherealrawtruth,youstarttolikereallybuildthis,whatIwouldcallauthority.
10:28
AndI'vealwayssaidlikethefunnycontentmightbringthemtoyourpage,butthetheauthoritativeeducationalcontentwillprobablyconvertthem.
10:36
Ithinkthatthere'satimeandaplace,andtherewasatimewhereIItriedalittlebitmoreofthat.
10:42
Butattheendoftheday,Ithinkthatwhatisgoingtogetpeopletopickupthephoneandcallorsendinaleadisheknowswhathe'stalkingabout,andItrusthimandIbelievethathecanhelpme.
10:53
Andifyou'reonlyeverbeingfunny,I'mnotsurethatpeoplearegonnareallyfeelthatwayaboutyoubecausewhatvalueareareyoureallygivingthemotherthanalaugh?
11:02
Andit'slike,youknow,Iuseyou,TexasCarGuy,acoupleotherGMsanddealerprinciplesIknowdoingthis.
11:08
I'mlike,youdon'tevenneedtobefunnytodothis.
11:11
Like,itisdefinitelyawaytosuperchargesomethings.
11:14
Itdefinitelywillgomoreviral,butthatshouldneverbelikethethesolepurposeofsocialmediacontent.
11:20
Isay,like,thatisjustoneverticalthatcanwork,butit'snotevenlikeifyou'renotfunny,that'sokay.
11:26
There'speoplethatgoonsocialmediathatprobablywouldn'tfindwhatIdofunny,butwouldenjoysomeofmyentertainmentormyeducationalcontent.
11:34
Yeah,Ithinkthat'sfair.
11:36
So,diditeverstarttofeeloverwhelmingtoyouwhereit'slikesomanyleadsarecominginthatyoujustdon'tevenknowwhattodowithyourday?
11:44
Yeah,I'llneverforgetthis.
11:46
Uhitwasatruestory,andIgotalotofhateforitbecauseIIsometimesyoudon'trealizewhenyou'reworkingforanhonestdealership,yeah,howunhonestotherdealersare.
11:56
AndI'llneverforget,ourgeneralmanagerwhohadbeenworkingatthedealershipandbasicallyrunningtheentirestore,kindofquitabruptly.
12:04
Anditwasitwashardonme,itwashardonthedealership.
12:06
Hewasliketheman,andatasmallfamily-ownedstore,havingyouknowthemanisimportant.
12:12
Hehequitsforareallybigopportunity,nobodyfaultedhim.
12:16
Beyondi,whoiswasinvolvedbutnotasinvolved,kindofsteppedbackupandwaslike,Allright,familystore,myname'sonthebuilding,I'mgonnadowhatittakes.
12:26
Andsomemistakesweremadeonhispart,mypart,thewholeteam'spart.
12:28
Imean,wewerethisGM,anditmaybeisafaultoftheBeyond'stime.
12:33
Wehithewasdoingeverything.
12:35
Yeah,newcars,usedcars,wholesale.
12:38
Likehewasjusttherainmaker.
12:40
Hecouldn'tdoitallandwasreallygoodatit.
12:42
Um,butwhathappenswhenaguylikethatleaves?
12:44
It'slike,youknow,youcanhirethreepeopletoreplacewhatoneguywasdoing.
12:48
Andyouknow,obviouslythat'snoteasytodoatasmallfamily-ownedLincolnstore.
12:52
Beyondhestepsinandhe'stryingtodoitall.
12:55
Youknow,he's69,70yearsoldatthetime,socan'tfaulthim.
12:58
Andheorderedfourrear-worlddriveaviatorsonaccident,andtheyshowup,andI'mlike,InoticeditinstantlybecauseI'mlike,man,thesethingsarecheap,youknow.
13:09
Thisislikethisisthereserve,too,under70.
13:12
I'mlike,oh,it'srealwheeldrive.
13:18
Beyondtiwasfreakingout,andhewaslike,Russ,wegottamakeavideo.
13:21
AndthiswaslikethefirsttimeMr.
13:22
Beyondieverevengottenavideo.
13:24
AndIIhadhiminthevideowithme.
13:26
I'mlike,allright,guys,Mr.
13:27
Bionnimadeahugemistake.
13:29
HeorderedfourRearWheelDriveaviators.
13:31
Andwhatwe'regonnadoisthey'reallforinvoicerightnow,trueinvoice.
13:35
Whateveritis,callme,textme,I'llsendyouapicture.
13:37
It'sdependingonit,it'sgonnabelikethreetosixgrandoff,dependingonwhichoneyoupick.
13:42
Like500peoplecalled,DM'd,emailed,texted,anditwasreallyoverwhelming,likeextreme.
13:49
Nowweendedupsellingthemall,whichwasablessing.
13:52
Butit'slikeyouIdidn'thaveaprocess,Ididn'thaveaprocedure.
13:55
I'monthephonewithpeoplefor20minutestofindouttheywanttobe500amonth,youknow.
13:59
AndI'mlike,dude,it's70grand.
14:00
Imean,Icouldcutthepriceinhalfanditwouldn'tbe500amonth.
14:04
Um,youknow,Ifindoutalotofconsumersaren'tassmartastheythinktheyare.
14:08
They,youknow,theythinkinvoiceis40grandoff.
14:10
I'mlike,dude,ifweweremaking$40,000spreadonAviAviator,Iwouldberetiredbynowbasedonmypayplan.
14:17
Sobutthatvideowasthefirsttimewhereitwasoverwhelming.
14:21
IrememberIsatinmyofficeforprobablyeighthoursansweringcalls,DMs,doingitallonmyown,andwedidgetthemsold,butitwaslike,thisiscrazy.
14:30
Andallofmycoworkersweremad.
14:31
Youprobablyhadthishappen.
14:33
Um,nowtheytheyprobablywouldn'tbemadatyoubecauseyou'redelegatingleads,butimagineeverysalespersonisansweringphonecallsforanothersalesperson.
14:43
Wasthatbecauselikeyouallhadlikearoundrobinsystemwiththephone?
14:46
Wedidn'thaveaBDCatthetime,anditwasjustthephonerangtotheshowemployerwent,beyondLincoln,thisisChristy.
14:52
Oh,youwanttotalktoRuss?
14:53
Oh,I'lltrytoreadaRuss.
14:54
Yeah,afterthethirdorfourthtimethatgetsoldprettyquickly,I'msure.
14:57
Yeah,whenit'slikeitifIhadtoguess,probably150phonecallsthatdayjustaskingforRuss,aviator,invoice.
15:06
Yeah,andandforanybodythatisnewtosocialmediaorkindofstartingoutandtheymaybehaven'thadthatvideothatreallywentnutsyet.
15:15
I'veliveditafewtimesmyself.
15:17
Therearecertainvideos,andtheytendtobekindoflike,hey,Ineedtomakeyouawareofthislikecrazydealtypesituation.
15:25
Anditis,Imean,literally,I'llneverforgetit.
15:29
Theveryfirsttimethathappened,IsawourBDCmanagercomewaltzingveryquicklyacrosstheshowroomandwaslike,Whatdidyoujustdo?
15:39
Yeah,ithappensquick.
15:40
Like,ifit'sgonnahappen,ithappens.
15:42
Ithappens,ithappenedwithinlikeyeah,within20minutes,internetleadswerepouringin,thephonestartedringingoffthehook.
15:51
Imean,it'slikealmostindescribablehowquicklyavideothatworksonsocialmediacanjustspreadlikewildfire.
15:59
Anddude,thetoughthingis,andIdon'tknowifyouguysdothis,wedidn'thaveaprocessforout-of-stateleases.
16:04
Ijuststartedguessing,anditworkedreallywellacoupletimes,likereallywell.
16:10
Likewemadeanincredibleprofit.
16:12
Yeah,andacoupletimesIguessedreallywrong.
16:15
LikeIcan'tsitthereandworkup40out-of-stateleasesatatime.
16:20
Atthattime,Ididn'thaveaprocess,wedidn'thavedigitalretailing,wehade-leads,andyouknow,you'remanuallyputtinginmoneyrates,factors,taxes.
16:27
SoIwouldliterallydoPAandaddlike$150amonthandjusttaketheirtemperature.
16:34
Andsometimesitwaslike,ohwow,dang,youknow,we'relookingforus,goodjob.
16:40
AndtherewasafewtimesImadelikelikewelostmoney,andMr.
16:44
Beyondi,Godblesshim,hewasjustsuchaniceguy.
16:47
Hewasjustsohappythattherewassomebodyinthestorethatwasjustliketryingsohard,tryingsohardtoget,andhewaslike,Russ,youdidyouknow,hewouldhewasn'thappyImadeyouknowmoneylosingmistakes,butitwaslikewedidn'tknowwhatweweredoing,youknow.
17:00
Imean,whowhothere'sthere'sprobablylessthanahandfulofpeoplethathavegotten150leadsinaday,prettyseriousleads.
17:07
Yeah,it'slikeuhyouyouwantmetoworkthedealtothepenny?
17:10
Well,Igottacallourournotarycompanyorourdealerumoutofstatecompanyandthendoallofthatforthemtotellthemthepayment'stoohigh.
17:18
Sowasitlikeataxesandregistrationissue?
17:21
Sothere'slikeIthinkitwasforMichiganhadlikewayextrauhtaxesandfeesthanIhadestimated.
17:30
IthappenedonceinVirginia.
17:33
Um,Ithinksometimesourout-of-statecompanywewereusingdidn'tevenknowwhattheyweredoingbecauseyouknowtheywerelocaltoPennsylvania.
17:40
AndIdon't,youknow,theytheystartedtohatemeatacertainpointbecauseyouknowwestarteddoingalot.
17:46
Andyouknow,it'slikemostofmostoutofstatedeal,alotofcompdealerswon'tdoout-of-stateleases.
17:54
Ithinkifyouhavetherighttool,itbecomesalotlessscary.
17:58
Andbutthethebigquestionmarkoftenbecomeswhat'stheregistration?
18:02
Becausethatiswildlystatespecific.
18:04
AndIknowthatlikeOhioandPennsylvania,prettyinexpensivetoregisteracar.
18:09
MichigangoesoffofliketheMSRorthelikethesellingpriceofthevehicle.
18:13
It'slikeapercentofthesellingprice.
18:15
Soifyousellan$80,000,youknow,Lincoln,that'slikean$800regfee.
18:20
InOhio,it'slikeahundredbucks.
18:23
Soit'slikethat'sahugedifferencerightthereifyoudon'tknowwhenyou'reworkingthedeal.
18:27
Yeah,it'suhIdon'trecommenddoingwhatIwasdoing,butyouknow,Ialwayssay,like,Ihadalittlebitofabenefit.
18:33
Iwasatasmallfamily-ownedLincolnstore,justwantedtogetour150,200dayLincolns,dayoldLincolnsoffthelot.
18:39
Yeah,soitwaslikewhateverwecandotogetthem,youknow.
18:42
Andtherewaswehadjustgonethroughamanagementchange,sotherewaslikeIwasthemostknowledgeablepersoninthebuilding.
18:49
Soitwasn'tlikeIwasgoingaroundanybody,itwaslikeI'mtheonlypersonwhocouldevenattempttofigurethisout.
18:57
Butyouknowwhat'sfunnyaboutwithmyGMquitting,hehadpromotedmybrothertoFIlikeamonthbefore.
19:03
Hehadnocluewhathewasdoing.
19:05
Andthenwhenmygeneralmanageratthetimequit,hetookourseasonedFImanager.
19:10
SoI'mnowmanagingliketheFIofficewithmybrother,tryingtoteachhimhowtodoFI.
19:14
NeitherofusknowhowtodoFI.
19:15
Imean,Ihadsellingcarsforquitesometime.
19:17
IIunderstoodtheconceptofRouteOneandratesandmoneyfactorsandyouknow,catcashandtrack.
19:23
Iunderstoodit,butI'dneverdoneit,youknow.
19:25
Sowereyouveryself-taughtinalotofthingsintheindustry?
19:29
Um,yeah,mymygeneralmanagerdidagoodjoboftakingmeunderhiswing.
19:33
Iwasalwaysveryperceptive.
19:34
Like,I'mtheguy,youknow,thateveryGMordeskmanagerprobablyhates.
19:38
LikeI'mtheguythatwalksaroundthedeskandjustwatcheswhatthey'redoingandcankindoflikefigureitout.
19:42
LikeIrememberIsentmyfirstdealtoRouteOne.
19:45
Nobodyreallytaughtme.
19:46
Ijustseenthemdoitsomanytimes.
19:48
They,youknow,theywenttoVAuto,theyprintedthebookout,theyputthebookoutonthedesk,theytheystructuredthedeal.
19:54
Iknewhowtostructureadeal.
19:55
Youputthebookoutin.
19:56
Iknewwhatbanksjustfromwatching,okay,goodcreditgoeshere,badcreditgoestothesedeals,youknow,LincolnAutomotiveFinancialServicesifwe'regettingasubventedrate.
20:05
LikeIjustkindofwatchedallthat.
20:06
SowhenmyGMquit,um,itwasn'tlike,ohmyGod,theskyisfalling.
20:10
AndIhadwatchedsomeappraisedtrades.
20:12
IhadliterallylikewhentheyputthecarinVauto,likewhatpercenttomarket?
20:16
AndImadesomebigmistakestoo,appraisedtrade,likesomebig,bigmistakes.
20:20
Anduh,butIhadaconceptofit.
20:23
So,youknow,andIlearnedthroughtrialanderror,andyouknow,Mr.
20:26
BeyondiwouldbethefirstsavorforeverymistakeRussmade,hedidhadahomerundeal,likeahomerun.
20:32
Soitwaslikekindoflenientinininthatrespectthatyouit'snotlikeitwasjustmistakeaftermistakewithoutmakingupforitinsomeotherway.
20:39
Yeah,Imean,therewastimesIputwaytoomuchmoneyonatradejustbecauseinandthere'sguysthathavebeeninthebusinessfor30yearsthatdothat.
20:46
There'stimesIwould,youknow,stealatrade,youknow,juststraightup,youknow,andalotofitwasn'tlikemaliciousintentonmypart.
20:55
IalwaysputwhatIthoughtwasfairmoney,butIthinkitwaslikethisBMW.
20:59
AndIIIgotitforlike10grandlessthanlikerealtradingvalueshouldhavebeen.
21:04
AndIwaslike,Ohwow,Ididn'tmeantodothat.
21:06
IjustIwasjustalittlenervous.
21:08
Itwasanexpensivecar.
21:10
Bionnialwayssaid,youcanalwaysgivethemmore,youcan'tgivethemless.
21:12
SoIwaslike,letmejuststarthere,seewherewecango.
21:15
IIIhadacallouttoourwholesaler.
21:17
Hehadn'tansweredme.
21:18
Andifyouknowme,though,youknow,I'mlikeanow,now,nowguy,soI'mnotgonnawait40minutesforawholesalertocallmebackandjustsitthereandputzaroundthecustomer.
21:26
SoItooktheinitiativeandthrewanumberonacar.
21:28
Ihadnobusinessputtinganumberon,andyouknow,workout.
21:32
Andthenthewholesalercalledmewithhisnumber,andI'mlike,uh,yeah,thisisprobablygoingstraighttoyou.
21:40
SowhendidyouwhendidyougetconnectedwithJohnandFreddieMedia?
21:47
Likeitwasitbecausethesocialmediastarstartedrising,youknow,kindofwhatwasthethestorythere?
21:53
Becauseyouwereinatthegroundfloor.
21:55
Yeah,andthisisaanextremelyuhinteresting.
22:00
I'mgladyoubroughtthatupactually.
22:02
Andwhat'suhwhat'ssofunnyisIhadbeenwatchingcardealershipguy.
22:08
Nobodyknowswhoheis.
22:09
IseehimonX,youknow,Twitteratthetime.
22:13
AndIrememberIstartedseeinghimdolikesomesponsoredposts,andtheywerelike,IthinkXisstillkindofthewildwestwithsponsoredposts.
22:21
Youdon'thavetolikediscloseituhlikeyoudonowonInstagramandTikTok.
22:26
AndI'mjustlike,thesecompaniesarepayingthisguy.
22:29
Andwithallduerespecttocardealershipguy,meandyouhaveprobablybothpromotedacompanythatisn'tnecessarilythebestofthebest.
22:36
Ithinkwebothhaveintegrityandhonorandwanttopromotereallygoodcompanies.
22:40
Yeah,butI'mlikeseeingthempromotethislikenewAIcompany,andI'mlike,yeah,there'sbetteroutthere.
22:44
Like,buttheyprobablypaidhimalotofmoneytotalkaboutthem.
22:48
AndI'mthinking,like,dude,Igotmorefollowersthanthisguy.
22:52
Hemighthavemoreindustryclout,butyouknow,IthinkXhehad400,000,buthisotherplatforms,hewaslikereallyjusttakingoff.
22:59
AndI'mlike,dude,Igotlike500onTikTok,200onInstagram,50onFacebook,YouTube.
23:06
Isaid,I'mIthinkI'mbiggerthanthisguy,honestly.
23:08
Andthatwasnotcocky.
23:10
I'mjustlike,butIain'tmakingnomoney.
23:11
He'smakingmoney,heknowssomethingIdon'tknow.
23:14
AndI'mDMinghimonTwitterforlikethreemonths.
23:18
AndI'mlike,dude,I'mgonnaDMhisInstagram.
23:20
Hehaslike100followersonInstagram.
23:23
IDMhimonInstagram,I'mlike,hey,what'sgoingon,man?
23:26
Idolikethecompleteoppositeofyou.
23:27
Youdowritten,Ido,andthisislikepre-podcastoranything.
23:31
Thisisjusthimdoinghiswrittenstuff.
23:33
I'mlike,Idoshortformvideo.
23:35
Idon'tknowhowmanycarsalespeoplefollowme,butI'msurethenumber'sbig.
23:39
Ihavealotofpeopleintheindustrythatarefollowingme.
23:42
IthinkIcoulddobranddealslikeyou.
23:44
Andwhathappenedwas,youknow,wegetonacallanditwasfunnybecausehehadnotgonepublic.
23:48
SoI'mliterallyFaceTimingthisguy,andI'mlike,20minutesintheconversation,I'mlike,holdon,wait,areyouacardealershipguy?
23:53
Andhewaslike,Ohyeah,Ishouldhaveledwiththat.
23:55
Likehedidn'tleadwiththat.
23:56
Hejustlike,Ithoughtitwaslikeanassistantorsomething.
23:59
Soweuhwecomeupwithadeal.
24:01
Igetbroughtonasacardealershipguycreator,andwhathappened,howthisallcomesfullcircle,itwasbasically,allright,meetJohn.
24:09
He'sgonnahesellsforyounow.
24:11
AndIreally,youknow,didn'tspendtoomuchtimetalkingtoYossi.
24:14
Itwaslike,oh,I'mtalkingtoJohneveryday.
24:17
AndJohn,asyouknow,islikeamillionideas.
24:20
He'slike,wecanworkwiththiscompany,wecandothis,wecanandwherethecodereallycrackediswhereIdidaUVIdeal.
24:28
Yeah,andIreallylikethatcompany,bytheway.
24:31
Ithinkthatthat'sacoolproduct.
24:33
Yeah,they'regreat,superawesomeproduct.
24:35
Anduh,Yaron,haveyoumetYaron?
24:37
Idon'tthinkI'vemethim,no.
24:40
Ibelievethat'shisjobtitle.
24:41
Yeah,ImeethimatadealershipthathastheUVImachine,andIhavethisreallygoodconceptforavideo,andmeandhimarelikearguingaboutit.
24:48
AndI'mstrong-minded,dude.
24:50
AndIwaslike,dude,youpaidme.
24:53
We'redoingthismyway.
24:54
Iliterallystraightupsaidthattohim.
24:55
Andhe'slike,andIdon'twanttolikeoffendhimbysayingthis,buthe'slike,allright,thrice,we'lldoittheotherway.
25:01
AndIdothisvideo,dude.
25:02
Blowsup,probablydidlike10millionviewsacrossallplatforms.
25:06
IthinkIrememberthat.
25:07
Yeah,itwasreally,itwasreallygood.
25:09
AndIknowtheygotabunchofleads.
25:11
Andatthetime,cardealershipguyandJohnwerethinkingofmeaslikeprobablymoreaconsumer-facingguy,likewasgonnadrivetraffictocars.com.
25:20
Theydidn'tthinkuhadealerprincipalwasgonnaliketakemywordaboutUVIandreachout.
25:25
Andthat'sexactlywhathappened,andthat'swhereitlikereallyblewup.
25:28
Thatthatfirstinitialcasestudywaslike,oh,therearedealerprinciples,andI'mnotgonnanameanynames,butguyswhoown80storegroupsthatdowhatwatchRuss'scontent.
25:38
Apparently,theseguysliketobe,youknow,watchingshortformcontentandjustaren'treadingnewslettersandTwitterallday.
25:44
Andwhathadhappenediswestartedtolikereallyumrolloutthetrainingatthispoint,too,becausewejustlikegotinterestforthat.
25:51
Um,wedidtheRomanToyotatraining,andthisisstillunderthecardealershipguyumbrella,andmeandJohnjusthadaslightlydifferentdirectiononhowbigitcouldhavebeen,yeah,versusyouknowwhatYossihadthoughtatthetime.
26:05
Andofcourse,Yossi'sblowingup,youknow,we'rekindofbothblowingupatthesametime,andthere'sonlysomanyresourcesyoucanuhumdelegateandallocate,andwedecidedtokindofpartwaysandspinupFreddyMedia,andwedidthatprobablylikeayearagotoday,likeliterallylikealmostayearago.
26:21
Yeah,yeah,it'sumit'sjustwild.
26:25
II'msureitdidn'ttakelongafterthatUVIpostforthelightbulbbulbtogooffoverJohn'shead,wherehe'slike,Oh,there'sthere'ssomethinghere,andyeah,youyouwere100%rightplace,righttime,butalsoyouearnedthatrightbybyreachingoutincessantlytoYossiandbeingsmartenoughtothink,okay,letmepivotfromthisoneplatformandtrytohithimonanother.
26:48
BecauseI'mI'mthisismyI'mlikethisaswell.
26:52
Like,there'scertainplatformswhereit'seasierformetofollowalongwiththeDMsthanothers,andright,becauseit'slikeyoudon't,it'snotveryeasytohavelikefiveplatformswhereyou'retryingtocheckmessagesallday.
27:06
AndIknowthatthere'ssomethatkindofpullthemallintooneplace,buttheycan'tdoitthemall.
27:10
Butanyway,thatwasuhthatwasasmartmove.
27:12
Andlookatwhatit'sdoneforyou.
27:13
It'sreallypaidoff,andnowFreddyMediahasreallygrownintosomethingveryamazingthatI'mapartof,whichI'mthrilled.
27:21
Andonthatpoint,ifyou'relisteningtothispodcast,youwanttogetaholdofme,justemailme.
27:25
Iactuallyanswermyemails.
27:27
It'slikeit'slikemysacredgroundoflikethingsIactuallylikegothrougheveryemaileveryday,andItrytokeepmyoneinboxlikesuperclean.
27:35
Imean,look,youkindofhavetopickasingularfocus,oryou'vegottohavemultipleassistantscheckingmultipleplacesandthensummarizingitforyou.
27:43
Imean,it'sjustit'stoomuch.
27:44
Itellpeoplethatallthetime,andIfeelterriblethattheyDMmeandIdon'tseeitforlikethreedaysbecauseIjustcan't,there'snotenoughhoursinthedayformetobedoingallofthosethings.
27:54
Sowejustbroughtonaguythat'sansweringmyDMs,andI'mandthiswasahuge,huge,hugedealformebecauseI'vealwaysansweredmyDMs,andI'mlike,dude,Idon'twantsomeoneelselikeandhe'sdoingareallygoodjob,butlikehe'stryingsohardtonottellpeoplethepricingoflikewhatwedoinmytraining.
28:12
AndI'vehadtohopintolikefiveconversationswithlikeGMsorsalespeople.
28:16
Like,okay,they'rethefirstask,youcankindoflike,hey,itdependsonafewthings,butlikesometimespeoplearelike,justtellmetheprice.
28:22
AndIkeeptellingthiskid,like,bro,justIdon'tcare,justtellthemtheprice.
28:26
Well,yeah,nothingtohide.
28:27
ThisisliketheexactsamethingIhatedaboutthecarsalesindustry.
28:29
Youknow,yougotyouhavetocommittoa45-minutemeetingwithRuss'sbusinesspartnersifyouwanttoknowtheprice.
28:36
No,youdon'there'swhatwecharge.
28:38
AndI'veI'vehadtohopinacoupleDMsandlikesendavoicenote,like,hey,thisisRuss.
28:41
Youweretalkingtooneoftheguysonmyteam.
28:43
He'she'salittlenew.
28:44
Here,here'stheexactpricingonwhatwedo.
28:46
Ifyouwanttosetupameeting,andeverytimeI'vehoppedin,peoplearelike,Oh,yeah,that'sgreat.
28:51
AndI'mlike,doyouhaveyourpricingonyourwebsite?
28:55
Um,wedonothavethepricingonthewebsite.
28:58
Ihavenoproblemsayingmypricing.
29:00
Wechargeathousandtofivethousanddollarsforanindividualforlifetimeaccesstoouronlinetrainingmodules,ourweeklyeventsinmyprivateDiscord,andwechargedealershipsanywherefrom$8,000to$30,000fortotrainwithmeonlineorinperson.
29:16
And,youknow,itdoesvary.
29:17
Thereare,youknow,I'vehadsomepeoplethatwanttodoin-persontrainingwithme,whichisreallyexpensive.
29:21
AndI'mlike,look,look,look,look,look,look,look.
29:23
Youhavenobodycurrentlydoingthis.
29:25
Like,let'sstartonline,seeifwecanmovetheneedle.
29:27
Iliketogoinpersonwherethere'slikealikehalftheteam'sdoingit,theysuck.
29:31
Halftheteamwantstodoit,doesn'tknowwheretostart.
29:33
Like,that'swhereIcangoinorbymagic.
29:35
Butifyouhaveagroupofguysthatdon'twanttodoit,whywouldpayingmetocomein?
29:39
Imean,itmighthelpafew,butlikeyouprobablyhaveamoreinternalcultureproblemthatIcan'tfixinacoupledays.
29:45
Andlook,that'sactuallyprettynobleofyoutodothatbecauseI'venoticedinmycomingupon16yearsinthebusinessthatdealerscanoftenjumpattheopportunitytospendalotofmoneyonwhattheythinkisgonnabelikethethebesttrainingintheworldthat'sgonnachangeeverything.
30:02
Andit'slikeifthere'snotbuy-infromtheteam,thenyoujustspendalotofmoneyformaybeadayortwothat'sgonnalikegeteveryonepumpedupandthennothing'sgonnahappen.
30:13
Yeah,you'vegottohavethatbuy-infirstbeforeit'sworthmakingtheinvestment.
30:17
Soforyoutosay,hey,let'spumpthebrakeshereandstartonlinebeforewemakethisbiglikethattomeisactuallyoneofthebestsellingtechniquesintheworldbecauseyou'reyou'rekindoftellingsomebodytoslowdownbeforeyoujusttakeabunchofmoneyfromthem.
30:32
Andthere'sthere'stwoanglesinwhichI'veactuallytolddealersnottodomyin-persontraining.
30:39
Andandandoneofthemiscompletelyselfish.
30:42
AndItellthem,IhavelikeahundredpercenttrackrecordofwhenIshowupinperson,it'sextremelysuccessful.
30:47
Andthat'sbecauseone,Ikindofvetthedealeralittlebit,andtwo,Ihavetomakeitwork.
30:52
Igothere,Ipromotethematyourstore,Imakeabigdealaboutit.
30:56
That'spublicinformation.
30:58
Andthatpeoplecangobackandbelike,hey,RusswasatSethWadleyFordofPerrysixmonthsago,andIfollowedalloftheiraccountsandIjustcheckedback,andit'sbeensixmonths,andnobody'sdoingit.
31:09
Wherego,ifyouwanttogodowntherabbithole,checkanydealerI'veevertrained,anydealerI'veeverpromoted,andIstayontopofthem.
31:15
There'sabigcommitmentonmyend.
31:17
SethWadleyFordofPerry,gochecktheiraccounts.
31:19
Igotaguythat's50someyearsold,hegotalmost5,000followersonTikTokoverthelastcouplemonths.
31:24
TheownerofthestoreisdoingamazingbecauseIstayonthembecauseI'mputtingmystamp.
31:28
OrifIwasasalestrainer,youknow,andIwalkedinthereanddidmymagicandyoucutmeacheckandIleave,likethat'snotpublicinformation.
31:35
Theowner'snoteverydaypostinghisstatement,youknow.
31:37
Dayone,sinceRusstrainedushowtoclose.
31:39
Here'shere'sourgrosses.
31:41
Like,sothereisselfishly,youknow,Igottoholdmyselfaccountable.
31:45
Andtwo,Ijustgenuinelywanttoseedealershavegoodresults.
31:48
AndIcankindofsensewhenit'slikeanownercorporateinitiativeorlike,dude,theteamlovesyou.
31:54
They'resoboughtin,theyjustneeddirection.
31:56
AndIcantellwhatthere'slikethatdifference.
32:00
SoIwanttokeepmovingtheyourkindoftimelineforwardhere,andthenwe'llcomebacktosortofjustsomegeneralautomotivestuffuhtowardstheend.
32:10
Butatacertainpoint,yourealizedit'snottenablereallyformetostayinthedealershipsellingcarsandkindofdoingthesebranddeals,orI,youknow,IhavethisbusinessthatIwanttostart.
32:23
Atwhatpointdidyoudecideit'stimetoleavethedealership?
32:31
Soyouknowwhat,youknowwhat'sfunny?
32:32
Therewasum,Idon'tmindtalkingaboutmoney.
32:36
Ithinkit'sactuallyhealthytoinspirepeople.
32:38
Therewasmultiplemonthstowardstheendof2024betweenmysocialmediaandmycarsales,Iwasalmostcracking100grand.
32:49
Andit'sfunny,ifyougotomywebsite,Ijustput45grandonthere.
32:53
Andmymyguywho'smybusinesspartnerandkindofhelpsmehavealotofbehind-the-scenesstuff,waslike,dude,whydon'tweputtherealnumber?
32:59
Igo,it'snotevenbelievable.
33:01
It'slikeliterallynotevenbelievable.
33:03
45grandislikeanumberpeoplecanwraptheirheadaround.
33:06
Istartsaying,hey,Imade$98,000onemonthselling.
33:09
Noone'sgonnawraptheirheadaroundthat.
33:10
Like,let'sjustuseamorerealistic,attainablenumber.
33:14
SoI'mmakingstupidmoneysellingcars.
33:16
Youknow,you'reselling30pluscarsatafamily-ownedLincolnstoreonaprettydecentpayplanthatuhthatIhadconstructed.
33:23
Um,Lincolnhadanincredibleperformancebonusthatuhtieredupprettyhighforsalespeoplebecausethey'relike,dude,youfigureoutawaytosell45newLincolnsinaquarter,wewillpayyou.
33:33
Andyouknow,soI'mhittingallthesebonuses.
33:36
Thispayplan'sincredible.
33:38
Anditwas,youknow,sowedoRomanToyotatraining.
33:43
That'suhAugustorJulyof2024.
33:45
Wegetsomeinterest,youknow,dealerplateguy,Zach,theiraccountsstarttoblowup.
33:49
Proofofconceptworked.
33:50
Yeah,John'southeresellingaway.
33:52
LikeI'mthe,youknow,I'mliterallythenextbigthing.
33:55
AndI'mlike,dude,IgotI'mIworkatadealershipjob.
33:58
LikeIhaveafull-timejob,andtheBeyondies,I'mnotgonnasaylikeIoweittothem,buttheyhavebeensogoodtome.
34:03
Like,Ican'tjusttakethreeweeksoffamonth.
34:05
Sowe'redoinglikeoneamonth,youknow.
34:07
SoIdidoneinlikeNovember,December,January.
34:10
I'mdoinglikeoneamonth,andthey'reallgoingreallygood.
34:12
AndJohn'slike,dude,John'slikebeggingmetoquitmyjob.
34:15
He'slike,dude,IcanIcangetyouoneeveryweek.
34:18
Icangetyouoneeveryweek.
34:19
AndI'mjustsoscared.
34:20
Iwasjustsoscaredtoquitmyjob.
34:22
I'mlike,isthisreallyabusiness?
34:24
Arepeoplereallygonnapaymetotraintheirsalespeopletodosocialmedia?
34:29
AnditwasMarchof2025,andanAustraliadealershipmadeaverylucrative,largeoffertocometrainforyouknowacoupleweeks.
34:43
Anditwaslike,ohmygoodness.
34:46
Uhone,I'lljusthavetoquitmyjob.
34:49
Um,two,that'sathat'sthat'sthatmanynumbersonthat.
34:53
Okay,let'suhlet'sdothis.
34:55
AndIrememberwalkingin,IIdidn'tcry.
34:58
I'mnotacrier,andIdon'tsaythataslikeahumbleflex.
35:01
Ijustdon'tcry,andIdon'tthinkthat'sifyoudocry,it'sokay.
35:05
Um,butIrememberwalkingin,tellingMr.
35:07
Beyondi,showedhimtheemailthread.
35:09
Isaid,dude,IIgottagodothis,andifIcangetthis,IknowIcangetitagainandagainandagainandagain.
35:15
AndIsaid,IIdon'tknowwhatelsetosay.
35:18
IhateIdon'tevenwanttousethewordsI'mquitting.
35:20
Ijustthissidehustlehasexploded.
35:24
Yeah,andthatwasinMarchof25.
35:26
AndheIrememberhim,thisiswhyMr.
35:28
Beyondiistheworld'sgreatestman.
35:30
Hegoes,Russ,hegoes,I'mgonnamissyou.
35:33
Hegoes,youshouldanditwasn'tlikeafireonhedidn'tlikelikesomepeopletellyoutoleaveonlikebadterms.
35:38
He'slike,notonlyshouldyouquit,hegoes,youneedtogohomerightnowandworkonthis.
35:44
Hegoes,pleasedon'tcomeintomorrow.
35:46
Pleasegohomeandbuildthistobeasbigaspossible.
35:49
AndIliterallywalkedoutofthebuildingrightthere.
35:53
Um,butyouknow,atthesametime,upsetongoodterms.
35:57
AnduhIcan'tthinkofanotherownerwhowouldliterallylikenotbelike,allright,Russell,canIgetcanIgettherestof,youknow,andIwasfullypreparedtoworkforanothermonth.
36:05
LikeIwasgivinghimlikeamonthheadsup,andhewaslike,dude,he'slike,thisishuge.
36:09
He'slike,goodonyou,andgoworkonitrightnow.
36:11
Thisislikethisseemslikeahugepriority.
36:14
He'slike,andIwantyoutohavedealslinedupwhenyougetback.
36:17
He'slike,putmedownasareference,referral,becauseMr.
36:20
Beyondy'ssocialmedia,whichwekindofoverlapped,didn'treallytalkabouthissocialmediawasblowingupatthetime.
36:24
He'slike,I'lltellanybodyandeverybodywhatyouhavedoneforthisstoreandhavedoneformeandmysocialmedia.
36:31
Andhehe'sbeenagoodreference,he'sclosedacoupledealsforme.
36:34
Yeah,that'samazing.
36:36
Andyeah,that'sumthat'sprobablyprettyuncommoninthisindustry.
36:42
Ithinkthatuhalotofdealerships,andII'mgeneralizingheretoadegree,butIthinkit'sfairtosaythatinmostplaces,ifyouhavesomebodywho'sperformingatthelevelthatyouwere,notjusttheleadsaspectandtheawarenessaspect,butjustclosingdealsaspect,peoplegetalittlebitbitterwhenthatpersonwantstoleave,whateverthereasonis.
37:05
Andforhimtohandleitthatway,Imean,howcanhenotlovetheguy?
37:09
Imean,ifyouwatch,ifyou'veeverseenoneofhisvideosonsocialmedia,youcantellexactlywhoheis,butthat'samazingthathehandleditthatway.
37:16
Yeah,anditwastoughbecauselikefromthedaytheGMquit,Idon'tIcan'tthinkofabetterterm.
37:23
AndIdon'tIdon'tsaythislikeIjustlikeIwasalmostlikeashadowGM,youknow,becausehewejusteverydayhewouldsitinmyofficeandwewouldjustbounceideasandhewouldtakewhatlikeIwaslike,hey,weshouldtake.
37:34
IrememberIsaid,Hey,weshouldtakerealpicturesofourinventory.
37:37
We'reusingfakepictures.
37:38
Ithinkitwouldhelpusstandout.
37:41
I'mlike,hey,Ithinkthisvendormighthelpus.
37:44
HeyRuss,we'rehavingourmarketingmeeting.
37:46
Iwantyouinthemeeting.
37:46
I,youknow,sotherewasjustlikeIhadforaboutayearandahalforwhateverthetimelinewas,spentalotoftimebuilding,youknow,thenextprocess.
37:56
OurGSM,who'sstillthere,wasmyidea.
37:59
Umhewasacustomerofourswhoworkedinhospitality,whowasobsessedwithLincoln,obsessed.
38:05
I'mlike,thisguyhasit.
38:06
Hedoesn'tknowhowtostructureadeal,hedoesn'tknowhowtopraiseatrade,butheisit.
38:10
Andhe'sstillthereandhe'sdoinganexcellentjob.
38:12
Andyouknow,Iwaswewerereallybuildingthestore,buthindsight2020,youknow,leavingwasn'tagooddecisionforformyfutureandmyfamilyfinanciallyforsure.
38:25
I'mgladI'mgladthatitworkedoutforyou.
38:27
Um,Iwanttotalkalittlebitaboutthis,itissortofnotsocialmediarelatedsomuchasitis.
38:33
Nowthatyou'reoutintheworldandyou'retrainingallofthesedealershipsandyou'reuhyou'reyou'reyou'rekindofontheothersidenowofthisbusiness,whereit'snotyou'renotinastorewhereyou'reisolated.
38:45
Youonlyknewandyouonlyeverworkedatonestore,isn'tthatright?
38:48
IworkedatuhBeyonneLincolnfrom15yearsoldasalotattendantumallthewayuptoyouknow20,26yearsold.
38:57
Soyouonlyknewitoneway,andyouit'sclearthatyouworkedinareally,reallygreatplace.
39:03
Whataresomeofthemaybeperceptionsthatyouhadoftheindustrythathavenowchanged?
39:10
Thatyou'regoingtoallkindsofdifferentdealersandseeingthewaytheydothings,learningabouttheirprocess.
39:17
Sowhataresomeperceptionsthatyouhadthathavenowchanged?
39:19
Andwhataresomethingsthatyouseetheaveragesalespersonjustmissingcompletely?
39:26
Andwhy,youknow,thisreallycomesbacktotheindustryaveragebeingeighttotencars,kindofwhereveryouare,andthemajorityofcarsalespeoplejustcannotseemtopushpastthatnumber.
39:36
Whydoyouthinkthatisnowthatyou'reoutinthewild?
39:39
Yeah,anditreallyboilsdowntoyouknow,alotofit,someofitisonleadership.
39:45
Ithink,youknow,atBeyondiLincoln,frommyoneexperience,wejustcaredsomuchaboutthecustomerandtheexperience.
39:55
Beyondi,LouisBeyondibeingsoinvolvedandwoulddoridiculousthingstosatisfycustomers,likeunbelievablethings.
40:04
Andthat'swhyIthinkhissocialmediadoessowell.
40:06
Likeit'salltrue,it'sallit'salltruethings.
40:09
AndIIfoundthatyouknow,IhavebeentosomedealersthatblowBeyondyLincolnoutofthewater,andthat'snodisrespecttoBeyondyLincoln.
40:17
There'salwaysgonnabeguysthatarebetter,andIthinkLewiswouldadmitthathimself.
40:20
He'sstrivingtobebetterhimself.
40:21
I'vebeentodealershipsthatcare10timesmore,havedailymeetingswiththesalesteam,andthey'regoodmeetings,they'renotliketerrible,annoying,they'relike20minute,herewego,here'swhatwe'regonnado.
40:35
I'vealsobeentosomedealershipsthathavepaidmetocometrainthatIfindthatlikeleadershipdoesn'tcare,they'rejustoncruisecontrol,andthatmakesyourteamnotcare.
40:48
Imean,look,you'renotgonnawineverybodyover.
40:50
Youknow,Ithinkumofoursalesteam,youknow,wewereanywherefrom15to8peopleatatimethroughmycareerthere.
40:57
Weusuallyhadacoregroupoffivetosixpeoplethatcaredalot.
41:02
Noteveryonewasthebestsalesperson,butwealllikebecauseMr.
41:05
Beyondticared,weknewwhathewoulddo,wecaredalot.
41:08
AndwhenI'vebeentosomestoreswherelikethetheownerortheGMjustlikeit'sjustkindoflikeadud.
41:14
Likethere'salotofdudsoutthere,bro.
41:16
Like,justdoesn'tcare.
41:17
Andandthatreflectsontheteam.
41:18
Now,withthatbeingsaid,tosalespeople,don'tusethatasanexcuse.
41:22
Oh,mymanagerdoesn'tcare,Idon'thavetocare.
41:24
Like,youcanI'veI'vehadmanagersIworkedwithatBeyondyLincolnthatdidn'tcare.
41:28
Ididn'tletthatruboffonme.
41:32
Ialwaystookitsoseriously,andIthinksometimescarsalespeopleforgetthatthecustomer,whetherthey'rebuyinga$10,000,$20,000,$100,000,$200,000car,that'snotnormalfor99%ofpeople.
41:44
Somebody'sbuyinga$10,000car,it'sprobablyabigdealforthem.
41:46
Somebody'sbuyinga$200,000car,andyouprobablyseepeoplewhodoiteveryyear,butformostpeople,itisabigdeal.
41:53
AndIalwaystrymybesttomakesurethatthecustomerknewIunderstooditwasabigdealtothemaswell.
42:00
Andjustprovidingareallygood,thorough,open,andhonest,youknow,experience.
42:06
Andmostcarsalespeoplejustaren'tstrivingtogetbetter.
42:10
Well,mymanagerdoesn'ttrainme.
42:15
I'llgetitnextmonth.
42:16
Andit'slikeyouhave200carsonyourlock,100cars,50cars,500carsonyourlock.
42:24
Youhaveaphone,youhaveaCRM,youhavetheabilitytogetthesecarsmoved.
42:29
Youcanmakeithappen.
42:30
Youjust,youjustcan.
42:32
PutmeinanydealershipinAmerica.
42:33
I'mnotgonnasayI'mgonnalightitup,butI'llfigureoutawayovertimetogetitdone.
42:37
I'mnotthese,someofthesesalestrainerssay,oh,putmeintherefirstmonth,I'llbetopsalesguy.
42:43
Givemeayear,though,andI'mgonnahaveareallygoodprocessinacorecustomerbase,andI'mgonnahaveitfiguredout.
42:48
Becausethisisalong-termgame.
42:49
Anysalesguy,it'slike,oh,putmeinthere,I'llbeasalesguy,bestsalesguy.
42:54
That'sI'llneversay,oh,Imean,Imight,I'maprettygoodsalesguy,butifyouhaveaccesstothisinventoryandyouhaveaphonetocallpeopleandaphonetomakecontent,recordyourself,andtheabilitytogooutandshakehandsandmeetpeople,youcangetitdone.
43:09
Andquitblamingtheweather,theeconomy,yourmanagement,thepricing,theincentives,andjustgetitdone.
43:17
AndwhatIseealotofindustry-wideissalespeoplejustkindofwaitingaroundforsomethingtohappen.
43:24
Andtheproblemwiththattomeisthatyou'reputtingyourfateintothehandsoftheuniverseandjustwhateverit'sgoingtobringyouthatday,right?
43:32
Ifthethephonerings,maybeyouyouansweritfirst,yougetaninternetlead,maybeit'sgood,maybeit'snot.
43:38
Butareyoureallydoinganythingtocontrolyourowndestiny?
43:42
Whichthebeautyofcarsales,andyou'veproventhis,I'vedefinitelyI'veproventhistomyself,isthatyoucanyoucangetasmuchasyouwantandyoucancreateasmuchactivityasyouwant,butitdoesrequireyoudoingsomething.
43:56
Youcan'tjustsitaroundandright.
43:58
Imean,it'slikeIfeellikesomepeoplearetryingtobeBecomethebestsalespersonintheworld,butonlywhensomethingcomestothemorfallsintheirlap,right?
44:06
It'slike,no,yougottagofindpeopletotalkto.
44:09
AndIdon'tseealotofthat.
44:11
There'sthe,IthinkJonathanDawson,herunsareallygoodsalestradingcompany,hadusedthisanalogy,whichIlove.
44:18
There'sreallytwotypesofsalespeople.
44:21
There'sumthere'shuntersandthere'sfarmers.
44:24
Hunterswakeup,don'tknowwhatthey'regonnaeat,hopeadeerisgonnawalkby,hopethey'regonnamaketheshot,andwhentheydo,theylovetobragaboutit.
44:32
Ohman,Ijustclosedthisguy.
44:35
Hunters,though,don'tknowwhatthey'regonnadothenextday.
44:37
Farmersare,youknow,farmingandthey'regonnayieldahugeharvest.
44:42
AndwhenyoulookattheguysthatpeopleonthislivestreamandI'mwatchingthispodcastdon'tevenbelievetheycan'tevenwraptheirheadaroundit.
44:49
ThetheFrankKranitis,theOliRita,'stheCodyCarterswhoaresellingoverahundredcarsamonth,nofleet,legit,straightupdoingit,arefarmers.
44:59
They'rethey'recontinuouslygrowingacommunityaroundthem,continuouslyadvertisingandmarketingthemselves.
45:04
Andsocialmediaiswhatyou'vedone,Doug.
45:06
Yourfirstvideoprobablydidn'thavethedoorsgettingbeatdown,butjustthatconsistenteffortoffarmingacommunity,plantingthoseseeds,becausepeoplewhoseeyourvideostodaymightbebuyersinayear.
45:19
Buttheymightbelike,Oh,Ilikethisguy.
45:20
Thisguy'sthisguy'smyvibe.
45:21
I'llI'llbuyacarfromthisguy,butiftheydon'tconsistentlyseeyou,well,iftheyseeyoutodayandyou'renotpostingayearfromnow,they'llprobablyforgetaboutyou.
45:30
It'sadvertising101.
45:33
It'sallaboutthemessageishugelyimportant,butthefrequencyisalsoveryimportant.
45:38
Andweletwehaveathere'sauhpersonalinjurylawyerinuhhereinCleveland,andpersonalinjurylawyersareveryfamousforthis,right?
45:45
Theyreallytheylovetheirbillboards,right?
45:48
Butthegoodones,man,dotheyhavealotofbillboards?
45:51
Andsomeofthem,youmightnotevenbeanativetoacertainarea,butifyou'rethereforacoupledays,you'relike,IIfeellikeIknowthisguyalready,becauseeverywhereIgo,Iseehisface.
46:02
Andthey'refollowingme.
46:04
Andit'slikethat'sthat'swhatittakesincarsalesaswell,becausetimingiseverythinginlife,butcertainlyinthisbusiness.
46:11
Imean,I'vehadpeoplethatarethey'reahardnotoday,andnextweekthey'rereadytogo.
46:16
Andthat'sjustthat'swhathappensincarsales.
46:19
Andifyou'rereallysmart,I'llgiveyouaprostrategytipifyou'relistening.
46:24
Thisreallyhelpedmesomuch.
46:27
IwouldjustaskcustomersthathadnoclueIwasonsocialmediathatjustwalkedinorreferral,hey,followmeonsocial.
46:33
AndI'llneverforgettwospecifictimesthishappened.
46:38
Oneguyjustwalkedin,reallylikedme,justcouldn'tputadealtogether.
46:42
Iwaslike,heyman,pulloutyourphone.
46:43
Facebook,Instagram,YouTube,TikTok.
46:44
IuseInstagram,followme,RustFlips.
46:46
He'slike,man,you'relikefamous.
46:49
Well,likeaweeklater,Ipromotedlikeanewleaseincentive.
46:52
Hecalledme,boughtacar.
46:54
AndIdidn'thavetocallhim.
46:56
Secondly,Ihadacustomer,actually,notevenacustomer.
46:59
Hedidn'tbuyacarforme.
47:00
Didn'tbuyacarforme,wantedanavigator.
47:02
Hereallylikedthenavigator.
47:03
Hiswife,shewasanescaladegirly.
47:06
Wetriedtomakeitwork.
47:07
Wedideverythingthat,youknow,smoothhertothenavigator.
47:13
Hecalledmeandwaslike,Russ,Iloveyou.
47:17
Like,thanksfortryingtomakethatwork.
47:19
It'sjustnotgonnawork.
47:19
She'swe'regonnagogetanescalade.
47:21
AnythingIcandoforyou.
47:22
Isaid,Yeah,youcanfollowmeonsocialmedia.
47:25
Facebook,Instagram,YouTube,TikTok.
47:26
He'slike,I'monFacebook,followmeonFacebook,Russflipswhips,andsendmeasmuchbusinessashumanlypossible.
47:31
AndnowI'mfollowingupwiththatguyeverysingledaybecausehe'sseeingme.
47:35
Hecan'tforgetaboutme.
47:36
AndhesentmemorereferralsthananyothercustomerI'veeverhad.
47:39
Itseemedlike,andIdon'thavetheexactnumbers,butitwaslikeonceamonth,onceeveryothermonth,thisdudewasputtingmeinagroupchatbecauseheownedabusiness,wasatthecountryclub,knewalotofpeople,bigfamily,andhewasjustlikealways,dude,I'lltake12referralsoveryoubuyingonecar.
47:57
AndIlikethatyousaidthataboutthatyou'refollowingupthemeverydaybecauseIheardyousaythatearlyon.
48:04
Itmighthavebeenonthecardealershipguypodcast.
48:07
IIcan'tbecertain,butitwasoneofthethingsthatreallyresonatedwithmebecauseIwilladmit,likemanysalespeople,Icouldgeteasilyexhaustedwithjustdialing,dialing,dialingandcallingpeopleandgettingtheirvoicemails,andit'slikenobodyseemedtoeverwanttoanswerthephone.
48:26
AndthatcanthatIthinkdeflatesalotofcarpeople.
48:32
Buttheconceptofnow,hey,Imakeavideo,I'mfollowingupwiththousandsofpeopleeveryday.
48:39
AndImightnotbetalkingtothempersonally,butthey'reseeingme,hearingme,hopefullylearningsomething,andtheyfeellikewe'vejusthadaconversation.
48:51
Sobytheway,andyou'refollowingupwiththemontheirschedule.
48:55
Theymightwatchyourvideoatmidnight,theymightwatchitontheirlunchbreak.
48:58
Ifyoucallthem,well,youbetterhopethey'reavailableandhavetimetotalk.
49:02
AndIthinktomypointearlierabouttimingbeingeverything,andanotodaycouldbeayesnextweek.
49:09
Ifyoucallsomebody,likethisistheanalogyIuseallthetime.
49:13
Ifsomebodycallsmerightnow,I'mnotavailablebecauseI'mdoingthispodcastwithyou.
49:19
Yeah,ifthat'syouroneattempttogetintouchwithme,probablynotgonnahappen,right?
49:25
Probablywe'reprobablynotgonnaconnect.
49:26
So,andthat'swhathappens.
49:28
Salespeoplearelike,oh,Icalledthem,leftamessage,we'llsee,andthenontothenext,right?
49:32
Theycompletelyforget.
49:33
Doingthis,it'slikenoweveryday,there'sachancethatthesamepeopleareseeingavideoeverydayoverandover.
49:42
Andthenbythetimetheymeetyouinpersonorcallyoutodobusiness,they'relike,IfeellikeI'veknownyouallmylife.
49:47
There'sthisinterestingstrategythatastudentofminecameupwith.
49:52
UhTravisHooverataHyundaistore.
49:56
I'llbehonest,Iforgettheexactlocation.
49:58
Hegoes,Russ,hegoes,Ilove,Ilovethevideos,thecustomers'ideas.
50:02
WeloveTikTokbecausethisideawe'vedoneoverthelastmonthisliterallygoingcrazy,andwe'resellingabunchofcarsfromit.
50:08
Insteadofsendingthemaspecificone-on-onevideo,um,whichyouwhichyoushoulddo,andIthinkthat'sagreatstrategy.
50:14
Hegoes,Sometimesthesepeoplearen'tansweringus.
50:17
We'remakingaTikTokvideoaboutthecarthey'reinterestedin.
50:19
We'renotnecessarilymakingitspecificallyforthem,butthenwe'resendingittothem,andthentheycanseeitonTikTokorInstagramorwherever.
50:28
AndI'mlike,dude,that'skindoflikeprettysmart,liketwobirds,onestone.
50:30
Likeyou'regettingasocialmediapostoutfortheday,andyou're,youknow,you'retryingtogetacustomerthathadshowninteresttore-engage.
50:37
And,youknow,ifyou'repostingavideosocialmedia,youmightgetmorecustomersfromit.
50:40
Yeah,no,thatisthatisverysmart.
50:42
It'ssortoflikeaverytargetedvideoforthatwasrelevanttothatparticularperson.
50:47
Butyes,anyothersalespeoplethatarelisteninghere,ifyou'renotwillingto,orifyou'renotreadytoatleastgetonsocialmediajustyet,youshouldattheveryleastbedoingthosepersonalizedvideos.
51:01
Becausepeopletoday,theyjustvideoistheplatoristhethewaythattheywanttoreceiveinformation.
51:08
Imean,it'slike,yeah,there'sstillsomereadersoutthere,butI'mIknowyouknowthis.
51:14
Like,IhavemetsomepeoplethatneverinmywildestimaginationwouldIthinkthattheywatchmyvideos,right?
51:21
Someincrediblyimportantpeople,someextremelysuccessfulpeople.
51:25
Everyoneintheworld,nomatterhowrichorpoor,successful,notsuccessful,theyweallconsumesomelevelofvideomedia.
51:35
Andpeoplewouldoftentimesratherwatchavideothanreadanemail.
51:39
Certainlylistentoavoicemail.
51:40
Ican'treallyrememberthelasttimeIreadanythingmorethananAIsummaryofavoicemailIreceived.
51:45
IIcertainlydidn'tlistentoit.
51:47
Andumsoyouabsolutelyhavetobemakingvideosattheveryleast.
51:53
Youknow,it'slikethere'stwopointsIwanttotouchonthatyoujustmentioned.
51:56
Ifyou'refightingsendingvideostocustomers,you'refallingbehindthetimes,bro.
52:01
You'regettingleftbehind.
52:02
Andyousoundexactlylike,andIInevermettheseguys,IcanonlytalkaboutwhatI'veheardthroughthegrapevine.
52:08
Yousoundexactlyliketheguyswhowouldn'tsendemailsinyouknow,thethe2000s.
52:13
Isentanemail,no,Igottareadmy,Iwouldn'treadanemail.
52:16
Andifyouyouemailme,Idon'tknowIcheckedmyemailtwiceamonth,youknow.
52:19
Andtherewereguys20yearsagothatwouldsaythat,andnowtherearesalesguysthatarelikethecustomerssentme,ifsomebodysentmeavideo,I'dbeoffended.
52:28
Ohwhatwhywouldweset,youknow,Imean,youyoumighthearitatyourstoreoryou'vehearditthroughthegrapevine.
52:33
Soit'slikepointpointnumberoneislikeyoudoneedtobesendingthesevideostopeople.
52:41
AndwhatyouwhatIhavenoticediswhenIstartmakingsocialmediacontent,whenIstarted,itjustmadememoreconfident.
52:47
Youknow,ifyoucoulddoaacoupleminutewalk-aroundonacar,youknow,it'llit'llmakeyoumoreconfident.
52:53
AndyouyoumentionedsomethingwhichhasbroughtupamemoryofminethatItotallyforgot.
52:58
MylastcarIsoldatthedealership,literallythesamedayIquit,wasprobablythebestsale.
53:04
85-year-oldguyfromOhio,IbelievehewasfromCleveland,drove,noappointment,justtocomemeetmebecausehehadbeenwatchingmyvideosonFacebook,askedtospeaktoMr.
53:14
Beyondi,andwaslike,Thisguy,whatagreatman.
53:16
I'vebeenfollowinghimonFacebookforayear.
53:19
Ilovejustsittingtherewatchingthem.
53:20
Andwewerelike,Well,whatdoyouwanttobuy?
53:22
Andhe'slike,Youguystellme.
53:25
Andyouknow,wedidalittlediscovery,andIthinkweputhiminaLincolnCorsair,tradedinhiscar.
53:30
Um,anditwasjustlikesocool.
53:31
They'relike,an85-year-oldmanwatchesonFacebook,thinksI'mentertainingandeducation,drovethreehours,drovepast20otherLincolndealershipsunannounced.
53:40
Like,literallydidn'tevenknowifIwasgonnabetherethatday,yeah,whichIthoughtwascrazyjusttojusttocomejusttocomeandmeetmeandbuyacarforme,whichwaslikejustsocool.
53:50
Youhadsomebodyrecentlydrivelikeeighthours,didn'tyou?
53:54
That'sactuallyprettycommon.
53:56
I'vehadIhadacouplethattheyflewinactuallythatcameinfromOklahomaCity.
54:01
Andthiswasnotlikethiswasawholething.
54:04
Theytheystartedthathewasoneofmyearliestfollowers,connectedwithme.
54:08
He'sabusinessowner,andhewaslike,Listen,whenmywhenthetimecomes,whenmyBMWleaseisup,I'mgettingacarfromyou.
54:17
Andyeah,ayearlater,sureenough,weyouknowwhatImean.
54:22
SothiswaslikenotandI'mjustcurious,becausetothepeoplelistening,thishowmanytimesdidyoufollowupwithhimviaphonecalltomakesurethatthatwasstillgonnagothrough?
54:30
Uh,Ineverdid,tobehonestwithyou.
54:32
Nowhefollowedupwithhim.
54:35
Youknow,ififthatifyoubumpedintothatguyatabarandhewaslike,dude,yousawMercedes,cool.
54:40
Yearandahalf,Igotyou.
54:41
Thechancesofhimfollowingthroughwiththatayearandahalflaterareslimthan.
54:45
Butbecauseyouconnectwithhimonsocial,heseesyoueveryday.
54:49
Herememberswhathesaidtoyou.
54:51
Hejustreachedbackout.
54:52
Youyoudidfollowupwithhim,justyoufollowedupwithmanypeople,notoneperson.
54:57
Andandtherewereafewtimeswherehewouldreachbackoutandwe'dhaveaconversationjusttokindofcheckin.
55:02
Butitwaslike,youknow,hefeltafterthatinitialconversationcomfortableenoughtocontinuetheprocess.
55:07
But,youknow,andheknewhewasveryunderstanding.
55:09
I'mlike,listen,Idon'tevermeantobedisrespectfulifImissyourcall.
55:14
Lifeisjustallkindsofcrazyrightnowbecauseitfirstandforemost,Ihavetorunthesalesdepartmentofadealershipeveryday,whichisahugecommitment.
55:22
Andthenyou'vegotallthisgoingon,andhebuthewassupercoolaboutit.
55:25
AndI'vegotpeoplethathavecomefromalloverthecountrytobuycars.
55:30
Imean,manyofwhomweveryeasilycouldjustshipthecartothemandthey'relike,no,I'mI'mcominginandI'lldriveithome,I'lldoaroadtrip,right?
55:38
Orthey'llflyinandthenwe'llshipthecartothem.
55:41
SoIwastalkingtoaguythatyou'llseeasocialmedia,he'skindofcopyingyoualittlebitwiththename.
55:46
Hejuststartedlikeamonthago,BenzandBrows.
55:49
No,Ihaven'tseenityet.
55:51
Hehashugeeyebrows,soit'slikeaprettygoodname,actually.
55:54
Andheworked,he'saGMataMercedes-Benzstore.
55:56
Andhesaidtome,Iwaslike,dude,thisisgonnablowupforyou.
55:59
Um,thisisgonnabehuge.
56:00
Igo,youhavepeopledrivinginfrom,youknow,he'sinLubbock,Texas.
56:03
I'mlike,you'renotpeopledrivinginfromDallas,Oklahoma,here,there,uh,Vegas.
56:08
They'regonnadriveintocomecomeseeyou.
56:10
He'slike,wegotagreatshippingprocess.
56:12
Igo,no,they'regonnawanttocomemeetyou.
56:17
They'regonnacaremoreaboutmeetingyouthanbuyingthecar.
56:21
Sohecouldn'twraphisheadaroundthat.
56:23
Isaid,dude,justtrustme.
56:25
YoujustkindofhavetowaitandandwatchandletithappenbecauseIneverinamillionyearsthoughtthatIwouldevenstartdoingthis,letaloneitturnintosomething.
56:34
Andthensureenough,hereweare.
56:35
AndnowI'mtalkingtoyou,somebodythatIIwatched,andandyouwereabiginspiration.
56:39
I'vetoldyouthis,right?
56:40
Youwereabiginspirationtometogetstartedintheearlygoing.
56:44
Um,myhesitationwasIdon'tknowifIcanbefunnyallthetime,likeRuss.
56:48
Like,thatseemslikeexhaustingtobecreativelikethateveryday.
56:51
Andsoyouwerekindofpartone,andthenGeorgeSalibawasparttwo,wherehe'slike,Hey,IhiredacameraguytofollowmearoundalldayandjustfilmwhatI'mdoingatthedealership.
56:59
AndI'mlike,allright,well,Ican'thireacameraguy,butIcandothat,right?
57:05
Andpartofthat,andbytheway,ifyou'regonnadobehindthescenescontentlikeuhmyselforGeorgedoes,thenyoubetterhaveagoodprocessandyoubettertreatpeopletherightwayanddothingstherightway.
57:17
Um,otherwisethatdoesn'twork.
57:19
Ifyouworkatkindoflikeanoldschoolshadydealership,I'mnotsureyouwanttobeputinthat.
57:24
Well,one,change,buttwo,doyoureallywanttodobehindthescenes?
57:29
Ifyouwanttosellcarsatleastfromit,yeah.
57:32
SoI'llkindofwrapuphere.
57:34
UmIasked,I'veaskedthisacoupletimesonmyonmypodcast,andIknowthatyoumadeavideoofitbecauseyou'vetalkedalotaboutthepayplanthatyouhad.
57:44
Nowyou'reoutinthewild,you'veseenalotofalotofstores,andyou'vemetsomeofthehighestperformingsalespeopleintheworld.
57:51
Whatdoyoubelievereallyisthebestwaytocompensateacarsalespersonfromtheperspectiveofnotonlywhat'sbestforthem,butwhatworksbestfortheconsumer?
58:01
BecauseIfeellikethatisakindofacircularprocessthatendsupworkingwellforeverybody.
58:08
Yeah,Imean,look,thereisnoultimatesolution.
58:12
Butifyou'reputtingmeonthespothereandyou'relike,Russ,therehastobe,youknow,you'rethepresidentoftheNADAassociationandyouhavetheauthoritytodictatewhatanexactpayplanwouldlooklikeforcarsalespeople.
58:26
Firstandforemost,Itrulybelievethis.
58:29
Everysalesperson,dependingon,youknow,salary,let'sjustI'llI'llkindoflayoutthepayplan.
58:34
IfIweretostartfromscratch,youwouldmake$500acarminimum.
58:38
Becauseifyousell10carsatadealershipandthat'sallyoumadewas$500acar,youareworthfivegrandamonth.
58:45
Thatisthatisworth$5,000.
58:47
Idon'tcarewhatmarketyouwerein.
58:49
Yousell20cars,thatdudedeservesa$20or$10,000paycheck.
58:54
Ifyou'reconsistentlyselling20cars,Idon'tcareifyousellKia,Mercedes,Bentley,Lexus,youdeserve$10,000,inmyhonestopinion.
59:03
Now,Ithinkitshouldbeaminimumof$500acar,noguarantee,andasmallcommissionableupsideonbackendproductsandfrontendgross.
59:12
Forexample,you'reasalesguyandyourmanager'slike,hey,Ineedyoutoselltheoldestcarininventory,andit'sa$10,000loss,andyouputacustomeronthatcarbecauseyourmanagerasksyouto,andyouspendthreehourssellingit,threehoursgoingoverthecarwiththecustomer,andyoumake$500.
59:28
Now,thenyousellthatG-Wagonthatisalaydowndeal,youknow,andyoumakeallthemoneyandthemoonandthestarsonit.
59:34
Idobelieveasalespersonshouldbecompensated,notbecausetheyhadanythingtodowiththatsale,becausethatcarsellsitself,butbecausetorewardthemforthesix-hourdeliveryontheonthecarthatnoonecouldsell.
59:46
SoIthinkthere'salittlebitofagiveandtake.
59:48
IthinkifIweretoopenupadealership,it'dbe$500minis,noguarantee,nosalary,$500minis,smallcommissionableupside,youknow,somewherebetween,Idon'thaveto,I'veneverdonethismath,fivetotenpercentonthefrontend,acouplepointsonthebackend,andletpeoplemakearealhonestliving,buttherewouldbehighexpectationsworkingformeatmystore.
00:07
Whatwouldyouthinkisistheminimumthatasalespersonshouldbecontributingonamonthlybasis?
00:13
Imean,obviouslyeverydealership,everymarketisdifferent.
00:17
Ifyou'rejustgoingtotakeyourclassic,youknow,dealershipthat,youknow,wantstodobetween100and150cars.
00:25
Ithinkyoushouldhaveashowroomofsalespeoplewhereyourworstguyisdoing12to15,andthisisscalable.
00:32
JonathanDawsonboughtaMitsubishistore.
00:34
Hetalksaboutthe20-caramonthsalesperson.
00:36
Hehasthreesalespeople.
00:37
Don'tI'mkindofpullingsomenumbersoutofmybuttherebecauseI'mtryingtorememberhisLinkedInpostfromtheotherday.
00:42
Boughtthestore,they'redoing30carswiththreesalespeople.
00:46
Nowthey'redoinglike80carswiththewithfoursalespeople.
00:49
Sohebelievesthateverysalespersoncando20.
00:52
Um,Ithinkmyminimumexpectation,Imean,I'dloveforittobe20,butIthinkifIhadtogorunastore,I'dbelike,dude,ifyoucan'tdo12,thisprobablyisn'tthebusinessforyou.
01:01
Um,youshouldbeyoushouldbesellingeightamonthfromme.
01:05
I'mtheownerofthedealership.
01:07
Iwillgetyoueightcardeals,eightcardealsthatanybodycouldsell.
01:12
Youneedtogetfouramonth,andthat'sbecausenoteveryone'sgonnabeanoverachiever.
01:17
Iknownoteverybodyisgoingtobethisaboveandbeyond.
01:22
Somepeoplewanttoshowupandgohome,andthat'sokay.
01:24
There'sroomforthosepeople.
01:25
AndIwouldsaytothosepeople,you'regonnaselleightcarsfrommeandyougottobringinfour.
01:29
Ifyoucan'tbringinfoureverymonth,youprobablycan'tworkhere.
01:34
Idon'tknowifyousawthe,Imean,itjustwentup,butmyepisodewithTommy,wherehehisdreamwouldbeadealershipwhereeverysalespersonismakingahundredthousanddollarssalary.
01:46
Andthathethesamething,superhighexpectations,butthatyou'renotreallyincentivizinganytypesofbehavior.
01:53
AndIthoughtthatwasinteresting.
01:54
I'veneverreallyheardanybodykindofsayitthatwaybefore.
01:58
Um,ontheonehand,Ithinkthatthere'salotofmerittothat.
02:01
Ontheotherhand,Ithinkthatitcouldbetoughbecauseitcouldleadtosomelaziness.
02:06
Butuh,ifeveryoneknowsthey'reshowingupandregardlessofwhattheydo,they'remakingahundredgrand.
02:10
ButIthinkthat'swheretheshowisrealquick.
02:12
Thisisreallyimportant.
02:13
I'mgonnagrabtheseboots.
02:15
SoIactuallylikeTommy'sidea.
02:18
IwasinAustralia,yeah,andIboughtthesebootsfor$750.
02:23
IthinkthatwasAustralian.
02:24
So,whateverthatconvertsto.
02:25
They'rethey'recustom,they'rekangarooleather.
02:28
AndthissalesguygavemethegreatestpresentationanddemonstrationineveryreasonIshouldeverbuytheseboots.
02:37
Anddude,hesoldmesogood.
02:39
I'mlike,dude,I'lltakethem.
02:40
AndIaskedhim,Isaid,hey,howmuchcommissiondoyougetonthis?
02:43
Hegoes,wedon'tgetcommission.
02:44
WeIthinkit'sAustraliandollars,andwemake120grandayear,10grandamonth,andtheexpectationsareextremelyhighforus.
02:52
AndIthinkwhathappenswhenyoudoapayplanlikethat,youyouprobablydon'tattractAplusplayers.
02:58
Youknow,anAplusplayerlikeme,I'mI'dliketoconsidermyselfanAplusplayer.
03:03
Iwantultimateupside.
03:04
ButtherearesomelikeAminusplayerswhowantsecurity,andwe'lldothat.
03:09
Um,andit'sfunny,inmycompanyrightnow,Ikindofhavetwoofthesameguys.
03:13
Oneguyishandlingallofourindividualsales,oneguyishandlingallofourdealersales.
03:19
Okay,oneguyisguaranteed,Iguaranteehim10grandamonth,verysmallcommission,oneguy100%commission.
03:26
They'rebothperformingreallywell.
03:29
Likereally,reallywell.
03:30
Oneguywantedtobetonhimself,oneguywantedsecurity.
03:34
AndIIdon't,ifyouhadtoaskmetopickoneovertheother,itwouldbelikeitwouldtakemeamonthtodothatbecausethey'rebothreallygood.
03:39
SothereisvaliditytowhatTommy'ssaying,butIbelieveittakessomebodytoholdthemaccountable.
03:46
Umandtheexpectationswould,youknow,you'regonnaguaranteesomebodyninegrandamonthor$8,500amonthorwhateverthatwouldbetosellcars.
03:55
It'slikeyougottobegood.
03:58
That'swherethetoughpartcomesiniscantheybeheldaccountable?
04:02
Whichinthisindustrythere'salotofpeoplethatjustaresortofhangingoutanddoingtheirthing.
04:06
So,lastquestionwhat'snextforus?
04:08
Whatareyouworkingon?
04:09
Anybigideasorfocusingontraining?
04:13
Uhthetraining'sbig.
04:14
Uh,itkeepsblowingup.
04:16
IgotallofMarchandApril.
04:18
We'rebookingintoMay.
04:19
MightbegoingbacktoAustraliaagain.
04:21
AbigOEMouttherewantsmetocomedosomestuff.
04:23
Um,butlikenextandnew,IthinkalittlebitofumIRLstreaming,youknow.
04:29
Justyouknow,I'mgoingtoBelorAmsterdam.
04:31
Ithinkit'dbereallycooljusttojusttostream,youknow,whatI'mdoinginAmsterdam.
04:36
And,youknow,I'muhI'mworkingonafewthings.
04:41
Ithinkuhinthenextsixtotwelvemonths,Godwilling,I'llbehostingsomesomebigevents,uhin-personeventsthatIthinkyou'llbespeakingat.
04:51
Youknow,I'lltalktoyou.
04:52
Well,IliketoIdon'twanttoputthecartbeforethehorse,butIthinksomesomebigeventswherewegetacouplehundredpeopleinaroom.
04:58
Um,Ihavethefacility.
05:00
IthinkIthinkthat'llbebigifIdothatonceortwiceayear,somein-personevents.
05:04
Youknow,we'restartingtogrowoutmynetworkofpeopleI'vecoached,peoplethatI'mcurrentlycoaching,peoplethatwanttobecoached,thatreallywanttodothis.
05:13
AndifIcansay,hey,cometoourtwo-dayevent,I'mspeaking,BenzaBowTysisspeaking,we'reflyinginthisguy.
05:20
Um,comeforwe'regonnadoauhadinnerandgolfandwhatwhateveritmightbe.
05:25
Ithinkthat'dbereallygood.
05:26
AndfromwhatIunderstand,asI'mlearning,thesearen'tyoudon'tdothesetomakemoney,youdothesejusttokindoflikegrowyouryoumightmakeImighthopefullyImakesomemoneyfromit,butlikefromeverybodyIknowthathostsevents,likeusuallythey'rebreakevenveryearlyon,butitjusthelpslike,ohman,Russpackedaroomwith300people.
05:45
Yeah,it'sprettycool.
05:46
SoIthinkthatwouldbethethenextbigthingformeistryingtoputonanevent.
05:53
ThenextTonyRobbins,maybeinthemaking,you'regonnabeuptherechangingpeople'slives.
05:58
ImeanuhUhGodwilling,Ithinkthatwouldbeanamazingthingtodo.
06:03
Um,youknow,andifyouknow,IthinkwehavethebenefitthatalotofguyslikeTonyRobbinsmightnothavenecessarilyhadissocialmedia.
06:10
AndIcansaytoabrand,hey,X,youknow,thisiswhereyouwecanactuallymakealittleextracash.
06:15
Hey,XYZbrand,whatifweputlikeacouplebannersupandyouweletyouguyspresent,payus,youknow,XYZdollars,andwe'llletyousponsortheevent.
06:25
Ithinkthat'sumthatwouldhelp,youknow,recoupsomecosts.
06:29
UhwegotTexasCarGuy,heknowstheheknowsthevisionontheevent.
06:32
Meandhimhavetalkedaboutit.
06:35
TexasCarGuy,shoutouttohim.
06:37
Ithinkhepoppedintothelive.
06:39
He'sbeenuhhustlingeversincehestarted.
06:41
Sowell,Russ,Ireallyappreciateyoumakingtimeformetoday.
06:45
Wecoveredalotanduh,youknow,excitedtoseewhereyougofromhere.
06:49
I'mproudofyoufortakingtheleaptoleavethedealership,right?
06:53
Andstartingyourownbusiness.
06:54
Thatissomethingthatalotofpeopledreamofdoing,butneverhavethegutstogoanddo,andyou'veyou'vedoneit.
06:59
Socongratulationstoyou.
07:02
Anduh,Iknowwe'llstayintouchandIcan'twaittoseewhereyougofromhere.
07:05
Yeah,no,Iappreciatethat.
07:07
Mycascadingthought,Ithoughtaboutthisinthecartoday.
07:10
EversinceI'veleftthedealershipanditworked,Ihavethis.
07:14
II'dlovetogethookeduptoaliedetectortest.
07:19
Idon'tthinkIcanfailatanythingIdo.
07:21
AndIdon'tsaytobecalled,IjustIjustdon't.
07:23
Iandthat'sbecauseIthinklonglongterm,I'mthinking,youknow,I'mnotthinkingintomorrowornextweek.
07:29
I'mthinkinginfive,tenyearsfromnow.
07:30
SoifIdohaveasetbackoffailure,IjustIjustdon'tthinkit'spossible.
07:35
Soifyou'relisteningtothisorwatchinglive,ifyoucantrickyourselfordoenoughworkintotrulybelievinglikeeverythingIdo,I'mjustgonnawin.
07:43
Um,itreallyhelpsbecausethat'showI'vebeenoperatingforthelastyearandit'sit'sbeenworkingsofar.
07:48
Yeah,soitsoundslikejustamindsetofsaying,I'mgoingtomakethiswork,andthenyoumakeitareality.
07:57
Thankssomuch,brother.