The HARDEST Part of Every Project | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep 9

Today we're tackling the heaviest part of any build when the excitement fades and the grind sets in.

This is where most projects die off, but we're breaking down how to push through,

finish strong, and actually enjoy the payoff. And along the way, we share some disturbing and

downright disgusting project car stories. Plus, a potential project that will break the internet.

Push come to shove, this dude from Germany messages the play. Yeah.

And my friend opened up the McDonald's bag that was over a decade old, and the French fries

looked like they were made yesterday. I think it gets worse. Just get ready.

I think if you're going less than 10 cylinders, you got it wrong.

Unless you're in a position where you can take the moral high ground and say,

kick rocks. I guess you're putting diapers and chicken wire in the in the Dodge.

Hey, cars. So I have reached the point in every build where

I'm kind of even though I'm well over the hump, I'm kind of just like

getting discouraged and wondering why I decided to

completely redesign and tear apart a perfectly good truck that I could have drove across the

country with, you know, a few weeks ago. And now I just had to spend a lot of money and

tear it all apart to change it for not necessarily anything necessary.

Yeah. Well, that's that's customizing cars. I mean, it's easy to make it look cool,

but to make it function after it looks cool. Yeah, you talked about that. That's like,

that's 98% of it.

Yeah, just like every, it seems like every big project I do, I always get to like one point

where I'm just like, why do I do this to myself?

Yep. This car right here in my car, same thing. I cut it apart right before I pulled the trigger

on starting a business and boy, that was a bad idea. I should have just left it together.

Could have been driving it the whole time. Oh, the whole time. The whole time. Yep.

It's a drivable car. Well, not right now.

Well, it's, it's a maybe it's drivable, but it's got some extra venting, you know, right now.

I drove here the way it was. I was getting thumbs up the whole way just because it was

still clico together, kind of like it is now, but it was like, it looks like a the hellraiser

kind of thing, you know, driving down the road with all the people saying that I'm holding

it together. I do think that there is some sort of magic to a vehicle that's got a whole

bunch of clico's on it. Like it's got like a Frankenstein.

For sure. Yep. I totally agree. Yeah. Yeah, so I got my car together. You gotta go all the way.

Oh yeah, there's no going back. I mean, I cut the shock. There's been cutting to the frame

and all sorts of stuff. But I did drive it this week and it was oddly well mannered,

even though it's with, I know I talked about the spring rates being a little off

on my soft side, but so it's it's sagging pretty low in the front. It's got like the 70s rake where

it's like leaning forward. And then since it's like eight foot track width in the front, it's

super wide and leaning forward. It's like a bulldog right now. It looks super aggressive, but

it was really well mannered and like the steering felt good and everything was stiff. It wasn't

like walking all over the road, which is, I don't know, when you just blow the proportions out of

stuff, there's like always that risk that there's going to be more movement. Right.

But it felt cool. Yeah. I did realize as I was doing it, I did just kind of the standard

tie rod extension where you just build like a heavy wall sleeve that, you know, just extends

your tie rod setup. I did realize that I should have just went with a double Heim joint setup and

then set my rack and pinion up to run up a Heim joint. I didn't realize how simple it would be

until I was putting everything together and I went, Oh, I could literally just bolt something to my

rack. I never really blew the rack and pinion apart in my head to realize that I could make

a Heim joint bracket in like an hour that would bolt on and then I just have to and then

I had the other revelation because I was always like, well, I don't want to lay.

So your time is free. So it doesn't really matter, right?

I like to think my time is the most valuable thing I have.

So I never really thought that I could just go Heim joint on a stock spindle

without or, you know, without making a tapered bolt that goes into your taper on your high

red bolts to the taper or just drip. I guess if you're into the taper, you just drill it out.

You should be fine. Yeah, I realized the other day while I was looking at it because I never thought

deeply about it. I was just like, Oh, I need to build a spindle. And then I realized, Oh,

I could just drill it out to the large size of the taper and then run a straight shank bolt.

So sometimes, even though you think of everything to get it going, you could have

thought of more things to make it better. I will. I'm probably going to drive it for a little while

and enjoy it. And then the other things that come up to that you might want to change at the same time.

Yeah. And so I'm I'm going to drive it for a little bit and then I'll go with Heim joints

and then drill it out and make it. So I've got some big misalignment spacers because I should

be able to get way more articulation on it with a Heim joint setup than a tie rod setup.

Or do you think it would last longer? Maybe not, I guess.

I guess it doesn't. I think I'm how you'd want it to. Yeah, if I'm articulating a lot,

I think that I will it will last longer with a Heim joint setup.

Whereas tie rods, I think I'm going to be kind of pushing them to their limit a lot.

If you take them to the limit, that's when they're getting wrapped.

Yeah. So I mean, I have I'm going to strap it a little short with the limit straps.

So the everything only goes, you know, like 12 inches of travel right now,

just so I'm not beating everything up. And realistically right now, I don't need

any more than that. And then I'll want I can get way more if I build an engine cage instead

of keeping the stock aprons. The good part of that is all I have to do for an engine cage

or the only thing that my aprons are supporting are my radiator. So to build an engine cage

wouldn't be a big deal. I could just cut them off, plate the firewall and weld up an engine cage,

bolt in cross crossover, you know, like people people generally call like a shock tower brace

or something like that. But I do a big bolt in one of those. And then I can get my

shocks up higher and use more up travel. Sure. And then land them in a better

zone of their setup right now. And then I'll be able to get more down travel too,

because there'll be more inboard mounting because I was kind of limited by the setup that

with the using some stock areas of the truck still. So sure. And then I'll be able to go like a full

19 inches of travel once I move it out to that. But that's okay. So but I was excited because

while driving it in a couple of the turns, it was like rainy out and stuff. So I wasn't

pushing it too hard. And especially with a raked out, it just kept spinning rear tires

if I'd hit the gas at all. But in the corners, I noticed if I if I go into a corner and I

turn hard and hit the gas that the other end would raise up pretty good. So I have a feeling

with it strapped and everything I'll be able to lift a tire like a stadium truck in a corner.

Yeah, that's so cool. I feel like that'll be my party trick.

That'd be pretty fun. Oh, man, that sounds fun. I need to get my car done.

The first step to getting it done is working on it at all.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. It's just a lot of welding.

What have you been on this week?

Getting the unicide put in the 69 Mustang over there. I needed a tool for pulling out this one

little area. So I just decided to wait for it. So then I jumped back on the 66,

getting that the air ducting stuff, the main fabrication down there. Just got to like cap

it off and do the ends and trim the trim the holes out a little better and stuff.

So we're getting some stuff together. But yeah, it's just cutting that unicide out and fitting

the new one in with the quarter panel installed because it was, oh shit, now we need these things

installed. You got to sneak it in there. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, did you decide to just

go piece by piece and kind of like put braces in while you're doing it?

Yeah. So we braced up. I had to take the pinch clamps off the bottom on the frame rack

and because obviously the rocker gets pinched in there with it. So I just tacked in some pieces

of steel I had that keeps everything in four different places from front all the way to the

back to keep it square and flat where we needed it. And they had a couple braces inside for

the roof, the roof bows just to make sure that they don't get out of whack. And we're still,

I got it in the front side needs to go up like that. I don't know, three-eighths, half inch

somewhere in there. So I need that last little bit fixed in the back so I can tweak everything up.

These unicides are, there's a lot involved. You got to, like when something doesn't fit,

you got to stare at it for a while or figure out why. Yeah, it's holding a lot of pieces

up at this time. Yeah, you know, and it's aftermarket. So it's not going to fit exactly the way

it did from the factory, but it surprisingly fits pretty good. I mean, once you get it tweaked up,

I can see where it would twist. You can twist it and put it in there and it would

fit like shit until it gets untwisted kind of a thing. But yeah, they were, I was

pleasantly surprised that they were actually fit halfway decent. There's pretty much

it in the marks they need to hit. So who makes the unicide for 69? Is that like a Dynacorn or something?

Yeah, I think Dynacorn is the only one that does make it at all. I think because they make the

full body. So they just, this is part of their full body that they make. I know it's not

necessarily your usual realm, but I saw yesterday that on Team Alibaba, you can buy an entire

1986 Corolla hatchback body in chassis. Somebody in China is re-popping the whole thing, like the

initial D car. How is that? Is there a calling for that? Oh yeah. Really? So you know in initial,

have you ever seen initial D, the anime with the drifting? I don't know. Okay, it's probably,

like I said, probably out of your realm, but there was like, there's multiple movies about it,

like real life movies. The real guy that started. I know what the drift car looks like. I'm pretty

sure I'm pretty familiar with that. Yeah, it's like a white and white hatch. Yeah, but it's like still

really. I think it said they're like $8,500 for an entire re-pop body. Made out of what? Steel.

Huh. China.

You know, it's hard to guarantee the quality of it, but it's like,

you can get a whole, I mean, in all realism, the original quality wasn't that high on them.

There's not a lot of them left, because they were just, you know, I mean, they were originally

like a commuter car. And then the guy that, I can't remember his name, it's like,

I'd have to look it up, but the guy that is the original drift king that like started

drifting in Japan, that's what he drove. So they like have a lot of lore and fame around them.

And so like all the drift kids, that's, that's a big dollar car now. You can't get a, in Florida,

you cannot get a 86 style Corolla hatchback rural drive for under 10 grand, even if it's

a piece of crap.

So if a guy had like a drivetrain, you could buy one of these. It's probably

costing five grand to get it over here, though. Yeah, I don't know how much, a lot. So sometimes

on Alibaba, you can, they'll have like a low freight stuff. It's part of the pricing.

What is this Alibaba? Well, I don't know what that is. I'm sorry. I feel like an

old friend. Alibaba is a online, it's like eBay. Let's say it's like eBay or Amazon,

but it's to buy things from China. So you just go on there and you can get anything. You can get

like, I could order shocks, like off-road shocks for my truck, like long travel ones,

give them the specs and some company in China will make them and then send them to me.

The problem is, I'm sure they can make an excellent product, but the problem is a lot of

times where you get even Chinese products that are for American companies, they have American

quality control. So it comes here, it gets quality controlled, it gets some company here's

name put on it and then goes out to customers. So since somebody's putting their name on it,

they demand a certain quality and then because it's an American, I'm not saying America is

necessarily the high standard, but I'm just saying because you're ordering it for your company and

you're putting your name on it and you're probably ordering at volume, you can kind of

demand certain standards out of the manufacturer. Whereas if I order one part from them, I don't

really matter. So I have to say you can't get good stuff. The CNC we got for my work,

we actually got through Alibaba and let's say tens of thousands of dollars and

I believe that. But

it's like I said, it's just a platform to be like a middle ground for people to communicate.

It's like eBay where it has guarantees. So shipping and everything is tracked through this

website. So if somebody doesn't get their product, they can get their money back. If

there's protections for the consumer and for the seller, just like if you're around eBay.

So it's neat. My kid likes to go on there with like $20 in order like $60 worth of fishing garbage

or a little RC cars and stuff like that because you get them direct from China. So you're not

paying Walmart's middle fee or you know what I mean? Insert a store name here. Sure. That's

interesting. I don't need to, I don't need to be, I don't know if I need to be checking that out right

now. Yeah, I don't think it serves any purpose for you. But it is interesting. I couldn't believe

when I saw that somebody's taking the time to reproduce a 1986 Corolla. Yeah, that's crazy.

I guess if they got the stamp, I mean, as long as they, somebody bought the dies to it and

they're just hammering them on, I guess, must be. I don't even know that like,

well, I mean, I guess they probably started with making aftermarket fenders like Dynacorn.

They started by making aftermarket, you know, quarters and fenders and then also they were

like, well, we've got so much of it. Let's just repop the whole car.

It's China remakes, China makes all the panels for all this stuff.

I mean, even Premier Cabs, they said they work with a guy company in China

to make those things and to send them back and forth until they're, like you said, their quality

can, it's to their quality and their dies are right. So now we can start producing. So

if you look at Dynacorn, I think you can buy a 69 Mustang shell for like 18 or 19 grand.

So I mean, you break it down to what it actually would cost in China that probably equates to

you know, 10, 8, 10 grand probably.

Yeah.

You know, with Mark up and shit, I would suspect, I don't know.

A lot of that stuff is getting a damper on it because of the tariffs and steel prices and all

that, but. Anticipation of and all that. Yeah, they, a lot of stuff over there.

Where was I going with that? So they have, they just have a lot more infrastructure for like industry

and stuff like that. And I think maybe they have less regulations to fight than we do. Whereas

I just heard like Samsung wanted to make microchips here in America. They built a

whole place. They did it. They spent, you know, billions of dollars. And then

because we haven't, we don't have decades of building these things like they do in Taiwan

or where I think that's where Samsung has their stuff made. They just don't

would they spend all the money to set it up here and we don't have all the experience and the people

and all that stuff. And then they ended up closing the factory because it just wasn't hitting their

quality marks. Yeah, they bought, I thought it was Samsung that bought a bunch of land in southern

Wisconsin. And it's like a whole debacle thing there. We're going to make these LCD screens.

And then supposedly after they bought it, they realized the geology of the

lot they bought was like not sturdy enough literally to make these screens.

So like it's a whole thing that we're going to like make a whole now or revamp the whole town.

And yeah, it was anyways. I think I was talking about, I don't think it was Samsung, but maybe I'm

wrong. I don't remember who it was. Foxconn. Yeah. I think they make, I think they make Apple products

if I'm correct. More about cars. Yeah, right. Cars. Get a little more room come in here.

Both the roadster bodies. So now we got it lined up where we have a few more projects coming in

the door hopefully one this next week and then the end of this month and another one. Oh yeah.

Yeah, pretty exciting about it. Do you dig into any more greens trying to figure out your 66?

No, we're like some of that's just in phases. We're waiting to kind of hear back from the

customer what he thinks and we're not even close to pink work yet. So I just need to get the outside

of the car finally welded together like when I say that I mean the scoops need to be welded in yet

and the quarter windows just there's a flange that needs to be welded in

for the window to get glued to but really the body doesn't need too much. Now it's just

going to be getting everything under the hood, everything adapted. There's a lot of stuff that

mechanically needs to get adapted to the car and just getting the fuel pedal in there. I got it.

That's going to be a bunch of works. Yeah, so do you need like a cantilever set up?

Yeah, and it's all like upside down work too. So that's always fun, right?

Yeah, I saw you were getting somewhere on the ducting for the radiator through the hood.

Yeah, those are not easy pieces to make because that radiator is flat and the hood is arched

in every direction up front and then the cutouts are in that and

they're lined up really well with all the body lines in the hood in the front ends so

everything's pretty symmetrical up there. But yeah, just lining it up from the radiator to the top

of the hood opening, that's like ooh, brought it in and out. It would have been probably easier without

the engine in there so you could like just sit up under it. I think so, but it did, it did,

not saying the, you know, every chassis flexes a little bit, but I, you know,

having, making sure that those body lines are right and the fenders are bolted and

everything's bolted in the right spot, having the engine transmission in did change the,

you know, they always kind of changed the fender, the fender gap a little bit. You know, when you're,

maybe not enough for the regular person to notice, but enough for when you're building a

high-end car that you want it done, you want it right, right off the bat and ignoring that

would be a big no-no. So yeah, it all counts. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, definitely. I can't wait to,

I kind of want to take to some shows this winter, hopefully, potentially in bare metal,

it'd be really cool. Get a little more adapted under the hood, so almost not saying I want to

take it somewhere and make it look like it's a driver, but it would look more like a driver,

you know, with all the pedals installed, you know, the dash stuff installed, HVAC stuff.

So it'd be nice to do that. I think like Milwaukee World of Wheels would be kind of cool to do,

but we'll see. Do you have an enclosed trailer set up to get you can transport a car like that?

Nope, nope. So we'll be figuring out all that stuff out. I really don't have aspirations to

have a truck and trailer. It's like a lot of overhead for what you're, the bank, like the

bank for the buck, it's just not there. You can hire somebody to do it and still be money ahead

for the year. Yeah, I just, I guess I'd never considered it, but I have a friend taking two

cars to GTR Fest in Texas and I was like, oh, I went, well, how do you, you got a two-car

enclosed trailer? Or what's the plan for that? And he goes, oh, we're just renting one.

Yeah. And I didn't even really realize you could rent enclosed trailers.

Yeah, even then, man, it's a lot. I don't even, I don't want to be the guy pulling

two cars in an enclosed trailer. Like that's not, you know, thanks, man.

Well, they already have a diesel shop truck and are used to hauling stuff around.

Well, yeah. I mean, I get that too, but even, I don't even really like driving anybody else's

stuff, you know? So pulling a rented trailer with your stuff inside of it sounds like,

oh my God, from Florida to Texas. I tend to see to Texas is what he's doing, but yeah.

Oh, sure. Still, I mean, it's about the same drive, I imagine.

Yeah, no, that's hopefully going to do for a show. I would like to do, because we work well

with a couple other businesses in town, so it'd be cool to have like a couple of businesses go

and make it worth not just our time, but somebody else's time as well.

So, we'll see. I don't know. Should probably be banging those details out now before it

actually gets to like a month ahead of time, right? Yeah, so you don't get like the SEMA crunch.

Hopefully one day we'll get there, but I can't imagine a shop this small having a SEMA crunch,

if it is, it's just giving me scrambling, scratching my head like I normally am, so.

Oh, well, the status quo. So, what kind of seals do you plan on using to

get that ductwork to tight to the hood when you're running?

Yeah, I was actually, I have some, I ordered some online. I usually go with PRP, which is

precision, something, something. They're out of line. Placement parts.

Yeah, whatever it is. But some of the stuff that I always pick something out and

it's like, well, they don't have it in stock or they're not making it anymore.

It's like, why is it on the website? So, I did, I found some stuff on the different websites.

It should be here today or tomorrow, but it's just like a, it's adhesive on the,

I think it was, was it adhesive? Yeah, it was adhesive. It was just a D, just a round D,

and it was pretty tall. It would collapse a lot. That's what I was looking for,

something that would, so the pressure of the hood wouldn't like push the ducting down,

because you mounted really well, but I don't want to push up on the hood as well too.

So, you want something that's actually going to like take up some, I figured out that it probably

should be about a quarter inch tall when it's collapsed. So, that's kind of what I factored

for, or a little, little more than that, just so there's room for,

yeah, flex when you're going down the highway. Yeah, yeah, all that, you know, all that for sure,

but until I get it here, I don't really want to go too much further. I put the, I made a,

I finally had a time to make a quarter inch, like a bevel, a quarter inch bevel to tooling for

the pole max. So, I got to use my pole max yes, Friday again. It's always fun to get

to be able to use your, your big tools. Yeah, yeah, it's always fun.

Oddly enough, precision replacement parts, the gasket company, if you ever need, I have

their main engineer's phone number, I was like on texting basis with them.

So, when I had my Fairlady Z, I don't know if they, I think they had a cars and coffee event,

or maybe because he lived in my neighborhood, he drove by and saw it, but somehow I got hooked up

with the engineer there because they had a built a bunch of Datsun gaskets and they needed to

have a test car. So, they actually took my like five color Datsun Fairlady Z into their

warehouse for like, I don't know, it was like a month and a half or something like that. And

then they were making their install videos on their website for Datsun gaskets or all of my car,

which is funny because like I said, like it was jammed out at that point. It had like white

epoxy primer on everywhere I had done replacements. And then the jams were all Lamborghini Aranzio

Argos, like deep orange, red, pearl, tri-coat. And then there was like green fender or green doors,

like it was funny because it was like just multiple colors and they're putting brand new

weather stripping out. It's kind of backwards, but I think I might have jammed it because

I knew they were going to be doing my gaskets. So, I was like, well, I don't want to have to

repaint it or whatever, pull it out to paint it. So, they ended up, I don't know if what,

I can't remember what happened. Something got, it was taking longer than planned. And then

I was getting itchy not having my car at home. And then they only ever did half the gaskets

because that's what they needed to do the videos. Oh, sure. Yeah. And then the

rest was just given to me in a box, but it was still like a good deal for me because I got a whole

bunch of weather stripping, which is like one of the most neglected things on old car projects.

Like everybody will do everything but the weather stripping because there is no cool points

to weather stripping. And it's one of the hardest things to do. It's expensive. Yeah, it's hard.

It's our terrible dollar days. That's not a rip on POP because the stuff didn't,

for the 57 Chevy did not come from them. But you know, like the window felts that are on the inside

and outside of the rollable door, the door glass, right? Usually there's like a clip that

pull, that pushes into a rectangle hole or, you know, sort of a clip, right? These have nothing.

Like, yeah. So what are you supposed to drill and rivet it? And they're like, yeah,

you have to cut them to length, drill them and screw them or drill them and rivet them. Yeah.

Only there was a, you know, a couple hundred thousand 57 Chevy projects out there that somebody

would think that it was valuable to make. What were we here with 57 Chevy stuff? How? How have

we not gotten better at this? Whatever. Yeah, it's kind of crazy, especially for that car.

You'd think tri-five would be somewhere somebody would invest. Come on. Really? You can't tell

me that all those cars were that far off to where they don't know where to put this,

you know, put this clip or whatever. And I don't think there's any,

there's no door length differences for like a 210 versus a Bel Air or anything. It's just a post,

maybe. There would be a post, yeah, a post to non-post cars, you know, or top.

So maybe that's what they do. But I don't know, man.

The whole kit was kind of, it's been kind of cheesy.

Yeah, fighting gaskets. And then if you, if you got ones that you end up having to like glue,

where they're supposed to just pinch and hold that gets really annoying.

Yeah. And then getting, just getting stock gaskets in general that fit old cars or

would work on old cars or like the door gaskets that we have to put together for this

38 Nash. Like we had gaskets in there, but we, I think the top half of the door, we're going to have

to, we can, we can say what we have, but the bottom half of the door, we're going to have to

get something that's just a little bit narrower. It's just some of that stuff is agonizing.

Because this car was originally clipped, or not originally, but it was, this 38 was had from

the, the center of the door and the roof and then the back of the door on the floor.

It was, it wasn't an accident or something. And that's where that somebody had clipped it together.

Like it's all gas weld. It's like, I hammered on the weld and it was like a really good gas

weld. So it was done a long time ago with somebody that was actually knowledgeable on how to do it.

But yeah, it was pretty gnarly. So anything, like the door openings, nothing's even stock,

you know, it's all kind of stock, hacked together, not hacked together, but it's not

stock, you know, it's, we're just doing the best we can with what, with the shape of the car that

it is right now. When you say gas weld, do you mean like oxy settling? Yeah. I did a fair amount of

apps when I was younger, not on cars, but just in like classes and stuff. Yeah, that was one

thing I never learned really well how to do it all. I didn't learn how to weld until,

you know, three, four years ago. Well, anyways, not well, well enough. But yeah, I was never really,

we had it in high school, I think, but like gas welding, but it was never anything that,

what are we going to learn this for? You know, it was always, it seemed like backwards

technology, but there's people that pull it off still today. I mean, they gas weld aluminum

stuff. And yeah, that sounds pretty, I got that mix those little Coach Smithing

planishing hammers. He makes cobra bodies out of aluminum. He gas, he gas welds everything.

Wild. Yeah. I feel like just Tig is so accessible at this time. Like, I wouldn't. Yeah. I mean,

there's a guy that's in Appleton now. I just, he just put out a video that he did laser

welding on aluminum and ran it through one pass through his English wheel and man,

I don't know. I don't know if you guys have gotten into that laser welding at all. I've

done laser cleaning, like metal cleaning, but I've never gotten into welding at all. But

and I think that's going to be the future hard. It's going to be hard to beat because it seems

the usability you can not that you want to be filling gaps, but it looks like you can

fill a gap potentially with the stuff. And it looks like it hammered out the weld tests that

some people have done. It's breaking next to the weld, which so that I don't know that means

it's too brittle or not. Or that's a pretty regular thing to have happen though. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, the weld's strong. It also might mean that the weld made the metal brittle.

Exactly. Exactly. I mean, to a certain extent, it's going to but you just want to make sure

it's from my angle. It's a weld that you can manipulate.

Speaking of old school repairs, what is worse than when you're sanding into a panel and you find

where they use the old put a screw in and pull the dent? That's always awesome.

Yup. I had a Camaro that my first car was a 79 Camaro and I was sanding the quarter panels down

and I started finding, you know, started being varying shades of like brownish pink.

And then all of a sudden you start hitting all the peaks of all the holes where they

You start to shave them off because you're sanding it all down.

And then you look on the backside and it's like a pasta press coming through the sheet metal of

filler. It's like a Play-Doh press. Yeah. Yeah, that's all that's all good stuff.

Yeah, I've had I've had all of it, you know, fiberglass, chicken wire.

I don't think there's any anything that I haven't actually I lie because there's a couple of videos

out there of people that have like pulled out like a denim pair of pants from a door and shit.

You know, that kind of stuff because I've never been that extreme, but usually I mean like

tar or any of the ways you I've seen it and pulled it out.

I've got a funny story, but before I get to that, did you see when there was the viral trend

of fixing holes with ramen? Yes. Packing holes with ramen and then super glue and ramen.

I saw people like break the corner off a countertop and do it and then like fill in holes in car

rust holes and rocker panels. Ricks on the side of the word like, you know, like just shit

and then like the sidewalk. Yeah, whatever. What would you do if you actually went to Santa

Rocker panel and you just started hitting noodles? That would be something. I mean, it's with this

the 69 Mustang in here when it came in, it was it was panel. Well, when I shouldn't say when it

came in here, because it followed me from my last job. So when it came there and we started

digging into it, they just wanted a motor put in it and it was like together, right?

So they start like prepping this car to mild I shouldn't I should say mildly prepping to put

a motor in it and they're realizing that this whole car is flux core tacked together with

panel bond and then seam sealer over the top of that. Yeah, that's frightening.

Yeah, the whole car, the whole car. Like they had patched the frame rails like they're usually

there's like frame rail patches you can put in the front over the free or the front bumper bolt

on and there was like everything was just bogered. So bad. I've never they still to this day won't

tell anybody at least I haven't gotten the full story on where they got the car from.

So I don't know they did just bring in some information on it that it's supposed to be

lime gold. So I'm hoping they want to go lime gold with it. That would be cool versus

they want to be black. So much platter. Well, and if it's if it's a Q code car and it calls for

to me it's like you can mess with it all you want but make sure it's at least somewhat

obtainable for somebody to put to a stock vehicle to at least maintain the value for yourself.

That's not that's not me asking you to make it cooler. That's me making sure that your

investment investment. Yeah, for sure. I mean that's kind of where we're at with that

the green for that for the 66. It's like I can think of colors cool all day long but

if the customer absolutely sees it and absolutely hates it you know and some of these things

are you got to absorb. I don't have the opportunity right now to get these colors to the customer but

I preferably I would like these these speed sprayout things to be like on the dash of your car

like what the sun hit it let what the sun reflect back at you and just let it sit with you for a

while because when it's on your car it's on your car it's there for a long time it's a big

it's a big I don't know if I'm painting my car I kind of know a color that I want to paint it

but it's going to be like the day of ordering the base coat that's going to be

that's always a hard thing for me to nail down as a color for myself anyways

and that's why I just put six colors on my car

that your your truck has a definitely a different it's just a different vibe and

art is art so it's hard to be like you know all of this is to a certain extent you're trying to

maintain people's values with stock vehicles and be logical that way but at the same time it's

is if the guy wants it black we're going to paint it black oh yeah it's it's all art to me at the

end of the day it's art with titles I find too when it's on your own vehicle the plans are always like

influx and so like until it actually happens things are changing the whole time

yeah to me I the longer I stare at my car I I want to sounds dumb

eventually I want to put some sort of like more power in my car like like a

centrifugal supercharger or something like that I'm not sure but I do really it's going to get a

ride all the way around but it looks like the front skirts on rob Ida's merc I'd like really

love that idea I've always loved cars are front skirts like deli haze and stuff I just think it

would be crazy for somebody to it's crazy enough to see a car like that but it'd be crazy to see

it driving around with front skirts even if they because I can my front tires talk real hard

even the way they sit right now like it I could damn near get a full turn without having to move

have that that that skirt move out so I think it'd be really cool actually just like it's art so it'd

be rolling art down the road man so cool hmm I like the stuff moving down the road though

any every car looks better moving down the road yeah it doesn't matter if it's just going slow

through parking lot being able to hear that car move I to me is like I'd rather see that than

stand in a sea of still cars yeah I do get bored a little at car shows one that's just like parked

car parked car which I mean right you have to have that so you can actually get around them and

check them out but there is like I always like them better when it's like they have a cruise

after or something like that I've actually been feel out at the same time you got me in my head

last week when we were talking about car clubs and stuff like that and then we my wife saw somebody

in our town was trying to start a classic car club and then I said can I enter with my 2002 Toyota

that's almost a classic it's over 20 come on thank you plates on it I I don't know what

the years in is Florida I do actually plan to get different plates for the truck because just

based on the color alone they have a black black and yellow plate here and I'm like I just feel

like black and yellow plate would look really sweet on the back of it that's what everybody was

has rode America plates not because they're black yeah they just in the right car it just changes

a lot makes it look like a less pedestrian yeah no doubt but then I was thinking like because

my son and I were following a the often thought to be ugly and disgusting fj cruiser somebody has one

that has like just tasteful modifications and actually just looked like a cool off-road ride

which I haven't seen a lot of fj cruisers look cool but it looked cool we were following that and

I was like maybe we need a truck club because this is central south central Florida there's a lot

of trucks but then I was like I don't want to limit it and I just the more I got to thinking

about it the more I was like I would really love to take my brand to a point where I could do like a

once a year big event like we drop drop faster I don't know if you ever went to top shelf

no what's that so top shelf was in Appleton I don't know if it's still there

but they rented a whole parking garage and so there was dude it was awesome because it's

like a Tokyo drift intro yeah and it's super controlled because there's like well generally

one entrance so you have your people at the gate you know letting people in so it's one entrance

and one and one exit so there's like people can't be really getting too crazy

so you don't have like that risk once they're out on the road once they're out of the parking

garage they're out of your space they're on the road they're not like in a parking lot

where they're doing burnouts and stuff because you're in a parking garage like restaurants

and shit downtown that's kind of cool that's I mean that's a pretty neat idea and then like

they had just regular cars kind of spiraling all the way like just not regular cars but they had

like your your general car show people showing up and they were like all the way on the way up

and then as you got to the upper levels it was like people with higher-end builds and people

that paid more so generally the people that'll pay more for an entry ticket to be on the

very top level the top shelf are like your higher-end builds or you know what I mean

um so or you know people with that's a cool name with what they have going on top shelf

that's pretty I like that I got a top shelf I had a top shelf sticker on something somewhere

it I don't know it was cool but uh and then they had like on the top floor they had a DJ

and all that stuff and like all the flags and the banners and it just like made for

a really cool environment because pretty much everywhere you parked I think every

uh teenage car guy at some point went to the parking garage to take pictures of their car

yeah for sure whether it was just under a fluorescent light in a corner or you went to

the top level you know and then you got like the skyline behind you um so it just kind of it

fits that there's I want I would want a place to go where there's a lot of photography ability

you know what I mean to get really cool shots of the cars not just like because in a parking lot

there's no cool cut picture of a car in a parking lot right I mean it's just almost all it's just

very bland um and then there's always people and there's cars in the background like the parking

lot's a great place to meet it's a great easy way to get people to line up and walk around and

check stuff out but it like it just doesn't have like a scenery that's um somebody's gonna see

on a post online or in a you know in the way I look at it in like a magazine

and be like wanting to go there um so I was like I would like to try to get to the point where I

could hold like a once a year big event and have stuff like that like that's uh putting an event on

he's the dabble in helping with putting an event on and it's a lot of work a lot of work

my friend my friend up there did the uh he was on the board for the meltdown drags

sure and that literally just got so big that they were like we can't really do this anymore

yeah yeah it's it's once there's a threshold of people that once you get over the people like

get over that amount of people coming to your event it's there's some things that are like

generally out of your hands as far as like you need to do x y and z to make sure that this

event happens otherwise you can't like just general insurance for things like when you have like

8 000 people showing up to something that are only supposed to have a couple thousand people like

general things like porta potties become a problem you know yeah and like the trash bins

fill up yeah instantly now you have to have a crew for emptying trash now you have to have

the four to five people stop in half or through the day I mean there's like

it doesn't become a car event anymore it just becomes human just human people walking around

sometimes bumping into cars nobody likes that yeah the uh the uh the venue rental and event

insurance are the biggest hurdles I think of the whole thing um because I mean it's not marketing

isn't that hard anymore it's so accessible to everybody um easy to get somebody there I mean

look at that storm area 51 thing it was just some kid in the mall and there's like thousands of

people and millions of dollars got spent on this thing yeah um in time in time I'll figure it out

I gotta find like the place to do it I think that that would be the big first step because um

like I sent you uh on the Tommy Kenner YouTube channel um my friend was at that it was a mine

that they were at a car event in and then uh did I send that one to you where they're all

like in this cave in the car oh really oh I gotta send it to you so um it's an event in a cave like

it's an old mine shaft sure that they turned into like a convention area kind of I don't know

they said it's like 300,000 square feet or something like that but they only had like a small portion

of it for the event obviously but I saw somewhere that they they stored ford mavericks in caves

I've seen pictures of that there's like a cave that that they stored cars in for a while I can't

remember I thought it was like a ford I thought it was a ford cave or something like that but yeah

it was I thought it was ford mavericks like 70 or something like that

hmm why did they store them in caves they just need somewhere to put them

okay

do you see how they ship those ford mavericks too on on on trains they like put them up on end

they're like literally on end I've seen a picture of that maybe this is all stuff like maybe this is

all AI stuff I've been subjected to I'm not sure well I uh I've never

I guess um you ship them without fluids I've just

yeah that's pretty sure yeah well what are you gonna do I mean to me there wasn't a

lot of logic in some of the things that Ford produced anyways so even to this day it's like

even our Bronco there's a like the outside the outside material on the top that you remove

there's a part of plastic that stays with the top or stays with the vehicle after you take

the top off and it's like a completely it's supposed to be matte black with everything else and

like can't for where we are you can't have these two materials match like they just don't

match like it looks like shit and it's a brand new car like I don't really understand

all right I just went sent Quinton a link to the video I was talking about my friend uh

was at this event for my acquaintance friend acquaintance um oh shit dude oh yeah man it's uh

they had basically I think maybe I think it was their first event so this place it was called

parked it was like underscore parked underscore and uh check it out on Instagram or something

like that it was wicked but um basically they just had like high-end stuff there's a

lot of Porsches there was like a Lamborghini Aventador race car and um just all sorts of classic

stuff it was super cool my friend was there with a my friend acquaintance was there with a uh

FDR7 yellow factory yellow right-hand drive arc seven that was imported from Japan white wheels

it's on the cover there thanks for that thanks for that I sat in that car when we were in

Tennessee in June and um I gotta tell you being six foot three is kind of too big for a little

Mazda like that oh is it I've never I didn't think I've honestly I don't know that I've ever seen

that style r7 in person to be honest like I don't think I ever have yeah the FDs are pretty small

I mean they're bigger than a Miata but they're I don't know they're the way they're made

because they're like a real true sports car um you're down in the tub and it's like

a pretty low roof and stuff like that I would need to be today huh those don't have back seats do they

no true two-seater uh hatchback I would uh I would almost need a gurney bump to be comfortable in it

oh that's crazy oh I just saw uh I sent you that that Audi v10 with a transmission

oh yeah man that gots that's got me thinking five grand man if you could get that this that run

stand alone in something you know it's just because it's an Audi but if you I got an

Audi guy I think so the v10 is the um the big Audi five cylinder that's in like all the rs4s and

stuff like that or rs6 I get rs5s I don't know I'm not totally an Audi guy but the the five cylinder

is literally half of that v10 so everything that you can like all the knowledge for those five

cylinders is directly transferable to the v10 because from my understanding they're the same

engine one's just got two banks just gotta stay off marketplace you know what I'm saying um I don't

know if it's that motor but Cameron Johnson here in Florida he's got cj racecars um when I was there

I asked him what was with the they have these shirts called the camberg it said cambergini on it

and I didn't know like for Cameron but apparently he's got a 69 Camaro they're building with a

uh lamborghini v10 or v12 so I don't know if it's that same yes all right crazy

well I saw the tube chassis and it sure looked like a front engine to me sure and that's what they

build generally so god that sounds awesome I want to put a motor in the back of something real bad

like the motor park were over like just just to have a customer that would you know that wants

like this is the car I want to fuck up and not say fuck up but you know like cut up let's cut this

thing up let's go nuts with this and put a motor in the back of this thing I think that'd be cool

but it's hard to find uh the right candidate without getting too quirky you know yeah Quinn and I uh

there was a 69 Mustang when we used to when uh

auto motion was like at Wisconsin Dells there's 69 Mustang with a big block in the back of

that thing that's pretty cool like a goofy Pantera kind of yeah four months Pantera

yeah I don't think you can say 69 Mustang and poor man's in the same sentence anymore

yeah yeah you're not wrong I think they probably almost a value higher than a data maso at this point

yeah it depends on condition but yeah you can I mean some of those you can get like a fastback

65 66 for what a driver for 15 grand not saying it's nice but it's surprising that the first gen

mustangs you can get there's still pretty affordable I think I got my cool is a whole other thing to me

I think back in 09 I paid 1500 bucks for my 67 coupe with the 289

and the C4 nothing fancy but yeah and then I just held it to Wyoming and sold it there I don't know

the the sense in that was but now you can pay five grand for junk for real the prices

the prices on marketplace have really started to have like a course correction uh for the car

prices because like there was a while there that um especially especially with the imports it's like

we went into COVID and then people wanted to do stuff and they realized hey I really like this car

that was cool when I was in high school and now all those like 90s cars were super expensive and now

they're really starting to come back down obviously for nice examples you still pay but it seems like

for the general project car market the prices are becoming more realistic and I know people are

holding on to stuff too because the values aren't as high as they were so they're like

people that have the nice stuff are like not selling right now because they're like oh they're

waiting for the market to kind of rebalance I think a lot of that stuff goes in phases and

generationally as well like you can some little phase out like things like COVID really

messed things up as far as like people wanting things because they weren't able to go anywhere

and now people want to go places because they can and they're not spending money on things so

I think there's a lot of waves of different economical things that happen I mean

I'm just glad like there's companies that came back from COVID there's like a lot of

there's even air ride management companies that went out you know I think Acura Air

shut down and they opened back up after COVID but there was a lot of companies that I'm glad

to see they actually came back and I was dealing with you know minimal people working at these

places and it's sometimes you have to grit your teeth and you just got to be happy that

they're open yeah um

it was an interesting time and I'd like to never think about it again

oh yeah we were doing crash work and it just never stopped you know they it is to me it was just

from the insurance perspective they didn't give a shit they would give you a little bit of

time to to clean the cars up clean the cars up which is whatever but yeah the crash work never

really I mean it slowed but at where we were working it was it was so busy to where never really

we never really stopped stopped working because they're essential worker blah blah blah but

there's just the work was there never stopped really

yeah it seemed like the whole well we don't have to get into it it seemed like the whole

essential workers thing was kind of funny but um oh um I was saying before that I had a funny story

on uh sketchy repairs my friend that I went to college with uh was from Hawaii we just literally

called him Hawaii because I don't know if you know this when you're in Wyoming there's not a lot

of Hawaiians right there was there was actually three in class but there was one original one in

one of our classes that we were calling Hawaii before it happened so it's kind of it got weird

when Austin there was multiples but uh so we hung all these Hawaiian dudes and the one went

when he went back to Hawaii after college you got a job in some body shop and island life is

kind of there's only so much stuff on the island and you just try to make everything last and

you just repair stuff with what you have on hand so uh all even though this guy absolutely

knew the correct way to do things he got a job at a body shop and they were working on like an

80s kick dodge caravan that the rockers were like you know looks like everything from the

80s and 90s and 2000s in Wisconsin or anywhere in the rust belt where it's just rotten out and

there's just huge holes the uh the owner of the shop had him stuff diapers in the holes

because diapers are moisture absorbent okay yeah that's the opposite of what you want

and then he had to put chicken wire over it okay oh yeah and then just bondo straight over the

chicken wire with the diapers is kind of a backer so you're not buying panels

hey so then the diapers keep the uh bondo from squishing through the chicken wire too far

and then they protect it from the backside from moisture you know I would think that they would

just get soggy kids whose diapers is he stealing I have no idea so uh then he had him it gets worse

just get ready um he had him spreading bondo over it and then the guy said he does this the uh

Marie calendar or whatever Betty Crocker frosting job of bondo on the outside of it and

then he's cutting the bondo down with like 60 grit with up whatever sanding it down and uh

he went to go mix or he's swept in between layers because there was getting you know you're cutting

a lot of bondo so he's sweeping in between layers and he went to go mix a new thing of bondo and

the boss stopped him he goes what are you doing and he's like what do you mean he goes

you're wasting all that and he goes wasting what and he goes all the bondo dust you just

swept up you mix it back into the bondo it makes it thicker so you can fill bigger holes

oh my christ oh no way come on yeah so um

it's a lesson for all of us but um

the boss the boss the guy that signs your checks tells you what to do and um

unless you're in a position where you can take the moral high ground and say kick rocks

uh I guess you're putting diapers and chicken wire in the in the dodge

you're not wrong jeez please that's bad that's real bad

you ever found anything cool in a car like when you're taking it apart um

tools um I found like uh for uh on the 70s cars sometimes the trunk kind of went

what really weirded me out is maybe mine was just that rotten but it seemed like the

trunk floor on the second gen camaros doesn't go all the way to the quarter panel

I think that the carpet originally would have blocked or maybe there was like a carpet

or like a wood mat but the the floor pan kind of went and then rolled down and so there was

like a pocket in the quarter panel between the trunk floor and the quarter panel I don't know

it's really weird but I had I had a bunch of I found some tools down in there um

um in my dots and I found a bunch of like 1980s uh Japanese music equipment like really

there was an amplifier that you had to have a key to turn on

go like a security for your stereo so like nobody would want to steal it if they didn't have the

key yeah I don't know but nothing like nothing real wild um sometimes you get like little Easter eggs

of things that you never would have guessed like the second gen Camaro came with a flat spare tire

to save room and then it had a can of air like an air oh yeah the mustang thing for sure that

the inflatable uh what do they call them collapsible flat or whatever they are yeah

they're really dumb it's just it's the same odd it seemed like I would worry about that can losing

its air yeah you know yeah I think I found uh in the 38 Chevy we bought we tore the back seat out of

there and there was like it had to be like a 50s magazine like a nudie magazine there wasn't any

like the nudie made the nudie make parts but you could see like the ads in the back

you could tell they were definitely from you know those kind of magazines

they probably got it for the articles yeah it's definitely for the articles

there was a I think it was a 67 Mustang we worked on or 68 67 or 68 Mustang and it had

underneath the undercoating inside the door it's like somebody stuck a quarter and like just

undercoated over it and that was pretty cool to find like the year like whoever was putting

the car together clearly like it was intentional so if I found coins like that in cars but

nothing else too crazy I don't think sometimes fine you know you find quirky little things like

like a pack of matches from some random place and you're yeah and like where is this car kind

of thing but other than that nothing too exciting but yeah I know a lot of times in

like the the Japanese cars people find like Japanese cigarette boxes and stuff stuffed under seats

and yeah um I always thought it was fun when sometimes you find the build sheet like under

a seat or something like that yeah where it's got all the specs for the car just don't remember

everything's usually I mean the cars that are in here they work pretty much torn into

and cleaned out by the time they by the time they got to me so right you're not in

generally getting something right from a field that one that one 69 that we got here that was

there was a when he brought it in and it started warming up there were bugs flying out of every

crevice like it was warming up it was pretty nuts um when I was uh in high school my friend

got a Mustang two from his uncle that had been sitting in a field for like a decade and

we went and yanked it out of this field towed it to my shop that my friend and I rented and uh

when we got there we were digging through it and there was just like all the garbage that was in it

from his uncle being a filthy human like he just left everything in there and my friend

opened up the uh uh McDonald's bag that was over a decade old and the french fries looked

like they were made yesterday nice and of course everybody everybody at least knew that kid at

school if not if they weren't friends with them he tried them and he said it wasn't that bad

fry them and yeah man what is it made out of that it can last 10 years in a field

yeah i'm not sure yeah that's pretty rough that's gross

i got the cool vintage mcdonald's logo like bag and logos and stuff though

right have you ever done uh like a drive-in like are you are you too young for that

to do a drive like a drive-in theater no like a drive-in like you go in a w like kind of like

i guess i guess they have an w's now yeah um they don't do that anymore do they anywhere

i don't know anymore it's not around here anymore that doesn't uh when i fondellak had an a and w

i think that had the drive-through still we used to go when i was a kid they'd hang the tray on your

window and do oh yeah um and i think they still oh no they what they have now i think is

and i think was in fondellak they have a ice cream place now i think it's in the old

um sure i think it's called gillies or something like that but they have like the whole drive-up

thing where you can order stuff out i think you could get like burger there or whatever but um

i think it was an old a and w they turned into that um when i was in college we used to go

to the sonic because i was like kind of close to a drive-in and we used to all hang out there

ate a lot of tater tots that's for sure but you could roll up with the the motorcycle and

then since it was uh biotech i mean there was a lot of people there with different cars and whatever

so that had to be a kind of a blast in that town like kind of a redneck town but also like a lot

of cars everywhere too yeah it was fun you could pretty much bump into somebody to talk cars with

that pretty much anywhere you went sure not like anywhere else where you talk cars and you're like

i don't know to me some places you talk and start talking about cars and they just want

to talk about sports and shit not knocking sports by any means but it's just not my gig like

motor sports maybe i'm not huge into the sports ball

meaning the sport sports

yeah that's for the devil

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mama says um yeah so what do you got planned for this week

um probably getting the other unicide put in that 69 we have i was just waiting to get this little

corner untweaked to get that up to get this side basically i have to finish one side move my jig for

re-put the the pinch clamps on that side move all my jigs to the other side and then do everything

on that side and then i'm gonna weld everything together but i'm everything very tied together

before you know everything gets loosened up but uh i'm just trying to lose all my measurements because

there's not really upper body dimensions that you can find for these cars so i'm trying to

save as much as i can while i can did you take a bunch of like tram gauge type measurements

point to point on a bunch of stuff and you know in the end they kind of fit how they fit

so we're just gonna just hold glass up into the opening just make sure there's enough room

for the things we need um yeah the map you know a guy can put put the doors on and put the door

glass up but the it's really the side openings are the door glass is a lot is actually adjustable so

it kind of is what it is with the with these that the side openings as far as like

they are a shape and without me remaking the shape door opening for the side glasses like

that'd be pretty insane but um some of it is making sure i think we're gonna have to put maybe

mount some of that trim and i don't know some of the door opening trim there's a lot of

stuff that should be fit it didn't the the the unicides didn't come with um drip rails either

so i had to order those so i'll have to fit those on there as well but it is coming apart and

or it's it's going together a lot faster than i thought it was going to i thought i'd be like

on it all week and i'd just be getting the unicide up in friday afternoon while i

had it up in there i thought it's tuesday afternoon or wednesday morning or something

like that so it's just getting it in there and getting it fit there are two very different

scenarios so even i have it pretty much welded not like heavy duty welded but it's tacked to

the frame rack so i can do i have measurements from the old rocker even like to the frame rack

that could the front tip of the rocker to the frame rack so i know like the height wise so we

have to door gap is going to be hopefully saved in the almost same spot so a lot of that stuff is

i have measurements for it but getting this unicide to get up where i need it to be

not always like it's the unicides are always kind of a pain in the butt yeah imagine windshield

and uh backlight while you have quarter panels in already so windshield's really the big worry and

then do the door do the door windows have uh where you can tilt them in and out do they

have that adjustment yeah they got all that stuff those things are so stable they're like kind of a

nightmare to work out in my eyes yeah i imagine and i'm i also imagine that even 1969 1970 those cars

had a lot of leeway from the factory and it has aftermarket doors so all of those things combined

is going to be a big headache once i get to that point the when we got the car the door

glasses in the door so i'm gonna have to and they don't really function so i'm gonna have to

pull everything apart just to be able to get the door glass to function in the door itself let alone

fit the car right a lot of it is the where the regulators bolt on sometimes you got an auger

a hole to get the right angle on it there's a lot i mean aftermarket doors on the 66 i had to

with the location of the lap or the door handle to the striker or to the latch in the door

because it was an aftermarket door and it wasn't exactly right i had to lengthen the rod

that attaches the two because if it's a little too long it won't latch properly even if it's

a little too short it won't you know it's like just little things like this and then the the bolt

pattern itself for in the in the aftermarket door for the latch was like a little off so i had to

cut the ear off the latch and then weld it back in the right spot so there were still three

attachment points some of the aftermarket stuff is a pain in the balls but it's also

way way way better than dealing with rust is making something function making something function

with no rust is money ahead then fixing something that could potentially work that is

still has rust in it i mean a lot of the times you can't you're not peeling open the edge of

the door to make sure the you know there's not rust under the lip and there always is so what

are you going to do you know yeah i feel you know rust is uh i um love being out of the rust belt

so much it's not even funny i believe it i'm really i'm starting to wonder if i really love my truck

that much or if it's like um it's like the first it's the it's the southern truck version of the

first pretty girl i've ever seen or something it's like uh i was doing brakes on it and every

single brake fitting came loose with a 10 millimeter open end wrench every single one front to

it doesn't happen here at all i every time i do something like that where i'm like uh so used to

it being the big fight you know what i mean like oh i gotta do brake lines i i get done

and i go in the house and i tell my wife i love that truck but uh it at the same time i think it's uh

like i said if i worked on pretty much any southern truck you know i think that the dealer tag on the

tailgate when i got it said fort meyers toyota or something like that so i mean it's it's just

always been here and if somebody kept it out of the coastal sand it should pretty much

have never been uh salted up real bad there's something to say about the ocean salt though

because we did a car um i did a car that was from cuba oh yeah i remember that and then

went ended up going back to cuba yep but the rust on that thing was so strange it is not

wisconsin rust it was like if there was a rust hole this big in wisconsin you have a problem

this big right or bigger usually you know it's usually it's really large the rust hole this

big and you could almost die grind the edge of it and weld a piece into it yeah it was oh strange

it's a very different salt that uh comes out of the ocean versus what is um spread on the road

because i think that i think we've the only thing we saved it was a convertible the only thing we

saved were the top of the driveshaft tunnel the outer rockers and the convertible part the

the windshield and the convertible parts everything else has changed that thing was pretty nuts

the 69 i have on the rack is the only one that rivals that as far as how many part how

deep i've dug into a Mustang that car was a big uh it was like a rare gt 500 convertible

or something right wasn't there something special about the number on it was uh yeah it was a

some shelby something something something i thought it was a six was it 69 no 69

i think it was 69 or 70 so i'm pretty sure it had it had fiberglass front fenders

and yeah yep because a six because a 70 isn't a 70 mustang a shelby mustang different from a 70

mustang i think 70 didn't mustang change in 70 and then uh 69 70 70 shelby was a carry over

of a 69 so a 69 has the quarter scoop a 70 is the same without the scoop in the quarter

in a in a regular Mustang oh i must be i must have something else confused 71 they changed over

to the the ones that had the interior heater back went out my brain has a lot of like a lot of this

with Mustang information so my dad being a Mustang guy when i was growing up

it um got me for christmas one year a like coffee table Mustang book

sure you know the real like double size paper um and it had like every year in it and being that

i was raised before smartphones i and the internet wasn't very good i just would read this i read

this whole book so like i'm pretty good and i'm sure you are too from a different type of way

but like i can look at a Mustang i can go oh that's this year or whatever just from little

quirks because i remember reading about all of it but um in the mid 70s then i lose it

like the early mid 70s i start to lose it all because to me they're not like the same car for

that yeah yeah um there there's a rare occasion where a 71 through 73 looks cool um but for the

most part all you just have to change everything about it i don't know uh that's the car that was

in the original gone in 60 seconds it was like a 72 or something like that lame

i do love i love the scene in that where uh he does the car trace in the in the Mustang and

it's like just totally trashed and he pulls in the back of a car wash and there is the

identical Mustang um on the inside of the car wash at that time and he like sneaks in and

takes that one and leaves his trashed one in the back of the car wash and so then he drives away

in it and then the lady uh that drove like the the matching one that he stole she comes out

and then the trashed car comes through the car wash and she's like what happened

for those who haven't seen the original gone in 60 go and do it right for educational purposes

yeah it's a hard watch but it's like any early 70s movie right it's like bullet you know what i mean

it's like a little too slow but there's good parts um yeah i forgot where i was going with all that but

that's the way it goes no doubt i um i think not quentin and i don't want to show our cards because

we want there's a car that we that that we either one of us in our group needs to get and um it's

hiding in a place and now and we're not going to say too much about this car but one of us needs to get

so we need to make sure nobody knows where it is and it's in the united states and uh

um it would be a huge um internet breaker of a thing to build i think but um one of us needs to

get it and i'm probably two years from something like that because i'm getting my tundra in a good place

and um i have my kids truck up next which is a frame off build um for a 93 Toyota pickup i know

that sounds insane but um that thing's going to be pretty serious and not for years man i um

need i i taught i taught i promised myself when we moved that i would not spread myself so thin

as i used to where i'd have seven projects and none of them would get anywhere and i don't know if you

guys know this what's cooler than seven torn apart cars is one that you can drive down the road that's

cool um so i try to focus money and and energy into one thing at a time at least to get them to

like um checkpoints you know what i mean like i'm gonna get my tundra to the point where i have

the long travel front suspension and the body's on and the wheels are on and it's got the

stance and it's drivable and then i'm gonna do like little tweaks like i'm looking at trying to come

up with cool carpet options or you know i mean like then now the outside of the truck is super cool

the inside's very nasty 2002 so um those things though that doesn't count as a project car

that's just like changing seats changing upholstery changing the dashboard i mean anything

that can be done in a weekend it's not a project car uh or not a big project but um

um so i've had a very good luck with that and it's helped with um video series is a lot like um

because i don't know if you go on youtube you go to watch a video of something you stumble on a

on a project and you go to watch it and there's no end because something happened and the project

got sold or life happened oh yeah sure so like things like my boat project my 175 dollar boat i bought

i started a video series on it when i was actually serious about working on it like it sat in my yard

for two years before i really did anything with it and then i just made a video every few weeks

and with the progress and my wife and i and my son we all just worked on it and then at the end

of the series which the videos are getting like 200 views at the end of the series when i start

posting shorts and posting videos of a finished boat and then you get to go then people see

that and it's in a playlist or whatever then they go oh this boat turned out pretty cool and then they

see what it started out as a 175 dollar boat they get to go back so same thing's happening with the

truck i have the original i blew up my engine video and my wife told me to build my truck however

i want which is probably something she should regret um i have that video from just oh i blew

my you want to hear about the truck even longer don't you i uh blew it up last november or something

like that um so we're coming up on a year of building it and it is that literally not the

same truck as it was it's got the same sense about that's about it um seats transmission

that's most of what's stayed in it um so when i get to this next big checkpoint where my

truck is you know a wide stance pre-runner with long travel and i can start posting videos of me

just like mashing through sand and stuff like that um it's gonna help that build so my truck my

kids truck is next on the docket i promise i'm getting somewhere and then um after that there is

a car that i really want to get but i need to put a shop up and i need to have a space to get

it and put it and haul it here because it is not um next door and um project but it could be the next

big thing and it would be an excellent candidate for a v10 and i think so i think if you're going

less than 10 cylinders you got it wrong i think there's i'm i think there's a lot of ways that

it could turn out really good and i think the biggest thing would be to get that car

on the road for the first time ever well it's ever but we'll say in a long time

i don't think it's yeah i guess i guess what do you call on the road because it's gone places

it's definitely gone places so um if you're listening to this in five years

cool check out my channel hopefully it's there that's on quintons

oh yeah but until then we're going to keep talking about fucking cars

fucking cars so you're doing the unicide the other unicide this week um i plan to my springs

come my stiffer springs come for the truck on tuesday so after we record here today if i have

the energy i'm going to take the front end back apart on my truck because i don't know

when your uh suspension or when your shock travels 12 inches it gets really long so

i actually have to unbolt my upper control arms to get them out um oh that sounds like a pain in

the ass it's not my upper control arm is literally one bolt it's what goes all the way through

i guess we have an upper arm but um toyota engineering um so i just have to unbolt my

wheel jack car the truck up and then i just pop that one um it's a 14 millimeter no 12

i don't know it's like a three quarter it's a 19 millimeter head bolt and he just he just

pop it right through and since somebody built everything on a jig the bolt slides in and out

nice and um so i'll pull that and then there's a little bit of um adjusting i want to do to the

shock tower um i built them and they worked just fine but then i discovered if i tilt them

inboard a little bit more and just pound on the inner fenders i get a little bit more

travel out of them um so i did the one side already i'm going to do that side if i feel

up to it today and then hopefully by next weekend um i'm driving right off the side of the road

and the ditch was that truck yeah hell yeah that sounds like fun i'm also going to fit in some time

on this uh the model a chop that i have going on just welding some of the roof thing back together

and uh i think when i try and weld the majority because we use that Mustang roof so like the

new um basically mating some of the roof panels because i didn't have a roof or a center of section

so mating the the side roof panels to the center of and uh and then attaching that to the top of

the drip rails i have that we made for it so i think some of this i may i might assemble some

of that roof like off the car and get all the welds hammered out off the car it's going to be faster

fun so what are you using to use a big planishing hammer or what do you do that if i have the ability

i just put in the power hammer it's going to knock that wall out like a couple a couple passes through

that and your hammer and your welds like it's where it needs to be the planishing hammer

will do the same thing and will probably be a little more finesse but it'll take a lot

longer to get there too so just i mean because it's an outside crown and we're not dealing with

like flat flat you know you can to a certain extent you don't really want to but to a certain extent

you can overstretch it and not really know because it's here on a rounded section of the

sides of the car so um and then sometimes a shrink disk when you're done just gets to grab the

high spots and brings them all everything back flat again you don't necessarily want to set

yourself up to be using the shrink disk all the time on brand new sheet metal you just

fabricated but if you need to you need to you know just one of the tools in the belt yeah

hell yeah i gotta figure out the quarter bottoms on it

it's a lot always a lot yeah and it's always more than you anticipate it doesn't matter what car it

is or it's i mean you can have the freshest car in the world and you're starting digging

into it and you're gonna find something that you didn't really love about it you know

yep but sure it's satisfying when it rolls out the door yeah i'd imagine cars that are from

down south are just a lot less problems i guess i mean different problems i would say um

but rust is a huge problem yeah i mean some of the i what i don't like around that because

these cars have been in this area for so long some of these cars have been in like

wisconsin cars just because it's been here a long time doesn't you know it's probably been worked on

and a lot and that's the problem yeah um i found that prepare like you were saying before like

the shitty repairs it's like terrible when you start digging into them i found that you know we

obviously have heard of and i'm sure you've run into it there's people that buy stuff down

south and haul it up north and they sell southern cars and like that's a whole business model you

just drive down here with a big wedge trailer and you haul two or three cars back up north with you

i have also found that they're very strange for florida specifically florida is like

living on an island for lack of a better term because if you're south of gainsville so if

you're in the bottom two there's a state you're basically you have no bordering states

anywhere sure you're just buying what's available in the area and i'm not even in the southern i've

i have a couple of you know a couple hours to get down to the south end of the state from

where i'm at and it's for me to get out of florida is five hours geez so it's like an

incredibly long narrow state so what happens in florida there's not a huge and it's there's

a lot of swamp land and agriculture land so there's not it's like very concentrated on the

outer borders and that's it and there's only so much cars in that space whether it's classic cars

tuner cars commuter cars and um so the value of just even everyday stuff here is much higher

because if it's something decent there's a lot of people that need something or want something

and there's not like a huge availability um so i have a friend who's even like sometimes he'll

buy a cheap car like he'll go up north and he'll buy a cheap car there and bring it back here

and just sell it for like a daily driver and the because when you're yeah when you're in the northern

or you know the regular part of the contiguous united states you have all these bordering

states so there's competition you know what i mean and so you could you can have a whole

business model of hauling southern cars up north and then hauling cheap northern cars down to florida

and there's something to present where a customer like there's customers that don't really look at a

car down south like they would up north right they don't they don't know to look for these things

and that's where i think a lot of these people get in trouble especially buying cars online

these southern boys don't really understand how terrible some of these cars up here are

right just because they've been around you know and it's and it's really not knocking i i don't

really see a lot of people i do see some people but i don't see a lot of people doing shitty work

like that and putting cars out at that like terrible terrible level to where but these cars

have been worth worth money for you know 30 40 years so and they haven't been dug into that

deep so and then when you actually do dig into them it's like oh shit this this repair was

from 35 years ago and this was a terrible this was like the way they repaired them then so i mean it's

it's just kind of the way the shit goes but i've heard of people taking cars from wisconsin

and selling them down south just because people aren't betting them right i uh yeah i i think

it's my friend even i think the last time he went up when he brought us the 93 toio to

pick up back um he drove up there in a car he bought cheap here about like a $800 car here

fix you know spends a you know a month or so buttoning up a couple things drove it up north

to wisconsin and then when he was up there he left the car there for sale on marketplace

and then bought another he bought a land cruiser up there for i when he got here i when he told

me what he paid i told him i would immediately pay him that amount because it was like a fifth of

what one goes for here it's a little rougher but um when you're talking 20 of the price of what they

sell for here that's a there's a lot of time there for labor when it's nothing major it's just

a little nitpicky stuff but um yeah he literally bought a cheap car here drove it up there

sold it for big profit bought a cheap car there drove it down here and kept that one

but um could have made a huge profit on that even in the rural areas here like marshfield

we don't have like there's places that'll work on import stuff but it's it's when you start getting

into engines and stuff of import cars and like high-end import stuff nobody around here wants to

touch it so it's just not going to simply exist here so i mean there's a majority i don't

remember what it was but the thing looked dope on marketplace it was like 10 grand but it had some

quirky quirky problem with it that nobody wanted to touch the thing was like dude it was a hot looking

car but like i said who wants to dig into the engine of a maserati in marshfield wisconsin

not this guy yeah i think maseratis because i've actually noticed that here um it's not to be

anyway about it but like you'll see a maserati in front of a place that rents out for pretty cheap

and um yeah right and from what i've realized is those cars are super nice super engineered super

fast they have all the cool things going for them but they're like uh they're like a boat or a camper

they the manufacturer only i think only expects people to buy them and keep them for the

period of time that the warranty lasts and then after that nobody wants to work on it the

parts are super expensive the parts are not really available and maserati probably isn't

going to continue making a ton of parts there's no aftermarket and so that the market for those cars

are people that buy them new and then the value drops tremendously because i'll be at i'll be

sitting at walmart waiting for my groceries to get delivered and a maserati will pull up next

to me with a guy a bunch of guys in their 20s right and i'm like maybe i should have made

different like what decisions yeah i do wrong god damn it but good for them i guess it probably

feels pretty sweet to roll around the maserati i thought man the body was like fantastic looking for

like 10 grand just ls swap that thing and but i don't really i'm not like put an ls and stuff

kind of guy but i mean if it fits if the guy wants you know customer wants it i do it but

i think until they start coming out with gm starts coming out with something that's a little cooler

i mean the supercharged ls stuff or lt whatever you know if it's cool but it's still

i don't know it just seems so recycled like it gets boring i don't know the twin turbo

everything with twin turbo turbo is like that's a lot of work like these guys that are putting

all create supercharged ls or lt whatever it is just seems like i'm not i mean this is coming from

a guy that doesn't really dig into mechanical stuff but the twin turbo stuff was is ultra impressive

just because of how hard it actually is yeah and i think that the guys that work on it regularly

would probably argue with you they they get so numb to it just feels like regular wrenching

but um i guess i have always leaned like part of the reason i like traditional hot rods is because

i like simplicity and to me like you're just adding systems and systems and all this stuff

for that can cause problems so i generally shied away from a lot of that um but it's cool

but on also on that subject i noticed like uh when we were at that um fl2k kind of the same

thing you're saying with like oh there's so many ls and lts and swaps and all this stuff that you

kind of get numb to it it yeah it seems like um every single car that i run into at like these

big events in florida like these high end events every single one of those if you saw it in the

wild you'd be like holy crap that's a sweet bill yeah oh that's a really cool car but then

when you see 300 of them in the pits you're like and each one is individually cool like i'm

not saying there's 300 stock lamborghini hurricanes or 300 3000 horsepower hondas or something like that

right i'm talking or probably not 3000 but like 1300 horse but um still a lot um but like each of

these cars individually if you somebody opened a garage door and you saw that sitting there next

to their daily driver you'd be like holy but then when you see them all together just like

when you see everybody's got an ls or an lt swapped into something or a new car that's got one like you

just don't get that excited about it's like this i don't know it's i've always been there i'm like

i maybe i should take time to appreciate these greats to me it's almost like uh i almost enjoy

being the counter against like i don't know the group think i try and stay away from the group

think to a certain extent i'm not sure if it holds true exactly to reality but when you when

there's like a ton of people going down one lane it seems like to me it's like well why are we all

going down this lane because there's a lot of other lanes to go down so i don't know i mean i i've

always been i really really really like traditional hot rods and customs and the reason that there's

a k in the name of our name it hungry hella customs because of like i love customs like

40s and 50s custom cars like my car behind um but it doesn't really translate to a business model

either you know the traditional hot rods and and customs they don't really unless you have

your name and your avenue is carved out for traditional hot rods and customs there's

to me the hot rods that have been in the shop this isn't an a knock to the traditional hot rod

and custom avenue but it's almost like they're from a business perspective there's more money in

the retro the rest of mod stuff and just since opening the business i really like the avenue of

both like i really love the new new stuff and i mean i've really grown even more appreciation

for import stuff um even i've always liked it but even more now i don't know why uh maybe it's just

because i think in this small town there's less and less of everything so when you do see something

cool it's like fuck that's really cool i mean i didn't get excited about young kids with loud

cars in town because it's uh somewhat keeping the keeping keeping the shitheads alive in these

small towns but i don't know i don't even know where i was going with all that i think the

more you pour yourself into all these things the more you appreciate the effort even if it's not

exactly your thing but you appreciate the effort and the the willingness somebody's putting into

something even if even if they're into something weird you know what i mean like um just because

it's not your flavor doesn't mean it's not cool it's not you don't i can't appreciate the the

lengths that they've gone to to make something that way or yeah yeah definitely yeah i mean

the generation now of all i mean the young whatever the young kids are driving now it's just

same as you know the the kids in the high school driving model a's in the 50s it's the same thing

just with different bodies and different cars just what's affordable in front of you

it's not like the model a's that were being driven around in the 50s were nice like maybe

there were there were a few i know there were but i can tell you not the majority of them

were not nice right not you had to go to a high-end show to see a nice nice car being a nice model

yeah well hopefully somebody's keeping everything alive i mean there's there's

in all genres there are to me there are people keeping this stuff alive

what concerns me is when i mean this is no fault to the younger generation because they

have communication different communication than we ever had but when i talk to a younger person

that just turned 16 but 16 to 18 and they don't care about their license it's like

man what is the future of any of this look like you know but just like stepping way

back like is the pool of actual direct people that want to drive a vehicle going to become

that small in our lifetime because it seemingly will and i think we got to make sure not to discourage

people at no matter what point in that journey they're at because like my friend that is probably

like as far as the level of mechanics like the highest level of working on cool cars and

stuff like that that on the mechanical side that i know when i met him he was driving a 94

grand prix with a glass pack sweet and now his shop's got you know over a hundred thousand dollars

worth of just his you know in like two or three cars so like we all we all start out with that

you know just whatever we can get our hands on whatever we can afford at the time but just

like just because some kids got a noisy car and it's a dumb car and or in your eyes doesn't i mean you

shouldn't put them down oh for sure i mean there's some of it where you're not if you're not exposed

to it you're not exposed to it i wasn't exposed to traditional hot rods and customs i mean i i saw

some of them at car shows when i was a kid because i've been going to car shows since i was

a real little kid but uh having that avenue being shown to me wasn't shown wasn't it wasn't

i just wasn't exposed to it until i started hanging out in the fox valley area

and people that were actually super nerdy about it um so i mean it's to me it's almost like

an avenue that sounds stupid like and you can make custom car to me there's no like

end of the road for custom cars as far as like how what you can do with them

but to me there's almost i like building cars with with limitations but in traditional hot rod

and customing customs there's there are a lot of limitations to be able to say it is that right

so to me it almost gets a little washed over yeah that's traditional custom yeah that's a

traditional hot rod it's like there's a lot of cool new products out there too at the same time

it's hard to ignore the cool the really really cool and high tech stuff at the same time so

that's why i don't know i really love both of them but it's i don't think my car is going to

end up being i mean it's already got a 350 a 700 r4 so it's like definitely and uh

Mustang 2 front suspension and a four link in the back so it's really definitely not traditional

underneath at all yeah i think i think anytime you're building something like shouldn't get too

hung up on like if it's something you want to do or you think it's something that's the best for

you or for your project like i wouldn't get too hung up on trying to fit into some constraints

like no i mean yeah i get that so and i think that everybody maybe needs to know that um to

me do you think that do you ever build a car or have a have an idea for a car in it you almost

have like a story in the back of your mind of how this car like let's pretend this car like

to a certain extent i would thought my car could have been built in the late 60s or in the mid 60s

and you could put like a a pro charger on it but not like make it have like the brand on it but

make it look like old you know i think rob light it is a lot stuff like that where it's yeah i

like that well it's it's new but you make it look like it probably should have been there from the

factory but it's all new technology on top underneath i guess yeah i like that stuff actually a lot

i think that's pretty cool when they you know just kind of tuck and hide all the new stuff but

um everybody's gonna enjoy the car more if you can actually drive it and it's dependable so

like yeah you're not wrong but there's also times where like um you and i i think it was a

29 there was a 29 model a that was actually like an old school hot rod remember that one

oh yeah yeah and like sitting in an actual period built car was just like so cool that was that car

was thrown together in the 2000s though oh it really was it i don't know yeah see that's the

thing that really irritates me about the about this this period must period traditional stuff

it's like yeah it's a traditional hot rod in its period and to me a lot of these guys are trying

you can get big money for this traditional stuff that's never been touched and if you're using

the right parts you can build a car right now that's never been touched that's never been touched

and that's that that's what that car was it was still sweet it actually went to Germany really

yeah it went to Germany and then um so i had driven that car to a car show

and then um to try and help sell it and then after that it went i think it was that winter it ended

up getting sold to this guy in Germany and then he put up a picture on i can't remember what what

site it was like kill billet on the trimmer bird kill billet used to be like kind of rat roddy

but yeah like there's some rad stuff and some like traditional stuff um but it wasn't the ham

because there's like a lot of the guys in the ham were like dicks if that wasn't like strictly

traditional um ham dicks yeah um but so he put a picture up there basically like uh does anybody

know any past history on this because it was supposedly a traditional build because yeah the

yeah the place that sold it to him the place where you still aren't far um sold it to him as a

traditional hot rod built in the fifties put together in the fifties so i messaged this guy

back i'm like i actually drove the car i wouldn't like and i'm a nerd about this stuff and i would

know um so push comes to shove this dude from Germany messages the play yeah messages the

place that sold it and they they call me at my job chewing me out because i told their customer

the truth basically yeah yeah and then um this person that chewed me out the sister of the

owner ended up quitting because they found out that the owner was uh not true yeah so like

thanks for calling me out and chewing me out at my new job a bunch of super cool yeah

yeah back at me got stories all day yeah they come they come up all off and it seems

yeah i suppose get something else done today church is over

why don't you tell everybody where to find you online oh you can find me in wisconsin

on the instagram on the youtube hey i got a youtube 100 followers now whoo hey that's big

i know big time and facebook i think it took me six months to get 100 followers when i started

mine back in the day i thought it was kind of a big deal and then i'm like oh it went over 100 now

it's at 101 i'm like well that didn't last too long yeah big deal now we got 200 right

it's always good to have goals and always good to appreciate these

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