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Cadillacs and Potential Conflicts on this edition of the Motorsport Brief as Formula One fires
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back up after the summer break.
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Hi everybody, welcome to another edition of the short cast. Rusty here in the garage, bit
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of reaction to a recent one on AI in Motorsport too, thank you for the feedback there. I tried
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to make that a bit of a panel convo, break it down with tech commentator Trevor Long,
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but Tom Moore from DJR also joined us and he had some fascinating insights on things that
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we're starting to see in the supercars paddock and in the motorsport industry generally in
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our part of the world now, all around AI and machine learning. That is worth a listen
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when you get the time. We were joined last week by Taylor Gill, who's that, I hear some
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of you asking, just a 21-year-old Australian who is leading the Junior World Rally Championship
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with one round to go. Great story. He's based in Finland now but will jet back home next
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month for a run in a Yaris AP4 car on the New South Wales South Coast. Those roads around
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Neruma are awesome and Neruma will host a round of the ARC next year. Now hopefully
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that run is good training for what seems like a logical step on the world stage next
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year for Taylor, but first he wants to claim that JWRC crown. He leads a handful of mathematical
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contenders going into the final event. That's the European Rally in October. Nice to shine
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a bit of a light on him and he's great in that media space too. Good talker. Just
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10 races to go in Formula One. Oscar Piazzari is top of the points ladder. Feel like we
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should revisit that after the summer break. He leads the race for the drivers crown
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by nine, only nine over teammate Lando Norris. Going into his home race, Max Verstappen trails
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Norris by 88, he's third in the standings. McLaren is a massive 299 points clear in the
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battle for the constructors title. Mercedes less than 30 behind Ferrari, the red team
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currently second on that table. Red Bull Racing, this seems almost unthinkable, they're
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a distant fourth right now. Matt Hickey from Codesports has been a good sport on a few occasions
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this year joining us on the garage. He's back from, I guess, sunning himself on a private
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yard off Sardinia with the rest of the pit lane. Welcome, mate. In all seriousness,
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did I see a milestone birthday during the break? And if I did, congratulations. You're
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a good journalist, Rusty. You're spot on, yes, no, the big 3-0, but unlike most
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of the grid, I was in quite sad looking Melbourne with the cold and rain. I wasn't sunning myself
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on a yacht, so not quite in that tax bracket just yet.
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Let's brighten your day, then. We're getting into footy finals. That's big in that part
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of the world, in Melbourne, obviously, and for those that follow NRL beyond that around
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the country too. That can be hard for motorsport to get column space in the month of September.
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Do you reckon that's changing in your office? Is there interest in Formula One generally and
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what Oscar's doing? Is that shifting the sentiment a little bit because there was
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a time where motorsport was looked down a little bit by those that covered the ballcodes?
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Yeah, no, it's a really interesting point and I think a valid one, but
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the sheer popularity of the sport now, it's impossible to deny the appropriate space
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whoever and wherever you're publishing. It's stunning. It's one of the fastest-growing
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sports in the entire world, as we know. Obviously, drivers have had a massive impact on that,
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and then you throw on the fact that Oscar Piastri is doing what he is doing,
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and there's a buzz. There's a real buzz that we might have one, and I think we do have one,
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and the race to the end of the season is going to be enthralling,
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and hopefully it results in a championship in a big front page.
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It's easy to forget that the turnaround for McLaren in just a few short years is
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really remarkable. Can they sort of do that in balance with the title fight they've got
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between their two drivers and without it impacting on next year's car too,
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and the fact that we've got a significant regulation change? Are they going to pour
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all this energy into those two and what's on the immediate horizon? You can't
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do that at the expense of next year and remaining competitive either, can you?
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Yeah, it's one of the fascinating things about the sport and certainly that you would have seen
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over the years. Trying to find that balance, some teams nail it, some teams don't,
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and we don't really know until next year as to how they fared when trying to achieve that balance.
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I think McLaren have such an advantage that they probably have the space to give a little
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for next year and still keep their noses out in front. I mean, we see how far in front
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they are in the Constructors' Championship. Both of their drivers look almost untouchable
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at the moment. They are just a mile ahead of the rest of the pack, although I think in
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future they're going to be known as Mastercard McLaren, which I'm not too sure about, but anyway.
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But I think they'll be able to afford a little bit of room to 2026,
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just because they're so far in front at the moment.
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You see yarns and these might be perhaps driven a bit by the team, but you see them about
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Lando and Oscar fundamentally getting on well and I'm sure he is cordial, maybe not as
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explosive as the kind of inter-team rivalries that we've seen over the years. Can you see this
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in the remaining 10 races, becoming a bit Nico Rosberg versus Lewis Hamilton at Mercedes in 2016,
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or will they be able to keep a lid on that better?
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Look, I think there will be a point in the back-off of the season. Now, whether it reaches...
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Got a bit, doesn't there?
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There has to be, right? Whether it reaches the scales of what we've seen in the past
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with teammate rivalry, I'm not sure, but I just get the feeling there is going to be a big moment
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in the run home that's really going to shape the conversation and the final stretch.
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I also believe that there's going to be one or two races where something big happens,
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whether it's a mechanical fault, which we haven't really seen at all for McLaren this year, but
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very rarely did teams go through unscathed in that regard to one of the two drivers,
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which is really going to change the look of the standings. But I would be shocked if
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something didn't happen in the back-off because the law of averages suggests it has to.
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Which, again, makes it unmissable, right? Because we don't want that to happen,
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but the thought of that happening potentially means we'll be glued.
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Oscar's calm and consistency, they're the major assets for him going into this.
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But you and I have talked a couple of times now, right Lando off at your peril. I mean,
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what he's done particularly in recent races, maybe since Monaco onwards, I think, is to be
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applauded. People who love this sport love pondering the strengths of rivals, what they
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might bring to the table and so on. What do you see as Norris' ace or aces in his hand for these
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10 races, do you reckon? I think having that extra few years in the sport is always going to
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be a bonus. And I think that will help Lando down the stretch. I think the other important thing
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or the intriguing thing to me is that he's had potentially his little tough period. We don't
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know how the rest of the season is going to play out. But towards the start of the year,
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which has given him self-time to gather, he's had that brain fade that we saw,
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well I was about to say a few weeks ago, but after a break a few months ago.
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And now he's had time to just regather himself and maybe not get
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flustered during this big run home because he's had that little moment, that little hurdle that
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now he's gotten himself over. I think that will be really important mentally for him.
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He can now see the stretch home is gaining some momentum into the back half of the season,
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which we all know is so crucial. So I think for Lando, that is where his advantages will lie
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as we head towards the back end of the season. Max just won't because he's not programmed
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that way. But can you see Red Bull now that you talk constructors points there before,
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they're whatever they are a distant kind of fourth in the race. Can you see them almost
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getting to the point where they go, let's just write this year off. We've had a couple of changes
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in the second seat and it's been tough for us, etc. Let's focus on 26 and getting that right
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with Ford and so on. I can, but also with the, it's hard to describe what Max Verstappen is,
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but with the, I guess the raging bull, maybe not the Red Bull that Max Verstappen is, it's
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very hard to deny him trying to give him the best car possible because he is undeniable when he has
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that at his fingertips. I also think that even if they do decide to do that, he will make the car
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overperform so much to the point that he will still be a factor at the front end of the grid.
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So I'm not sure we'll necessarily be able to tell from Max's performance,
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but maybe in the other Red Bull we'll be able to see if they're starting to look forward to 2026.
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That's actually a really good point, you make. The impact of the others that are capable of
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stealing points, if you will, from McLaren or from Lando and Oscar respectively,
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what chance of Ferrari doing a bit more of that, do you think?
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Yeah, look, they've got the talent. We know we've seen flashes of how good the car is.
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I'm a Shuller-clerk fan. I'll never deny that. I think he's fantastic. He's great with the media.
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I think he's very much himself, which is fantastic too. So there are chances of stealing points.
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I think as we've seen, there's going to be moments here and there where, or randomly,
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maybe the McLaren car doesn't quite look suited to a certain track or whatever it might be,
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and we'll see the likes of Mercedes and Ferrari popping up. How often? It's hard to judge
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because, as I said, McLaren have been so powerful and so strong. And then, like you mentioned,
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we've got these 2026 regulations. So how does every team player, it's going to be fascinating to see
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how it pens out, not just at the top of the grid, but towards the bottom as well, because of
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course, Cadillac coming too. Let's go there then. Perez and Valtteri Bottas, Sergio's back.
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So as Valtteri next year, that kind of makes sense to have a driver line up
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like that. I think both of them feel like they have nothing to prove, but they bring
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a lot to the table for this. Can this team be better than cellar dwellers and perhaps
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surprise us next year? Or is it just going to be such a huge mountain to start the climb on?
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I think it'll be a big mountain early. I think they, of course, the timing has been worked out
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well in terms of the new regulations come in. So they're not necessarily going to be a mountain
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behind, which is obviously a strategic decision. Like you said, the driver pairing, I think
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fantastic. You need as much feedback on a new car as you can possibly get as early as you can get it,
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and you're going to get that with two really experienced drivers. I'd be fascinated to hear
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what you think, Rusty, of what this is going to look like in 2026 with a new team. Are we going
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to see them score a point from years past? What do you reckon? I think that would be
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your target in year one. If you can just do a few things like that that show that you're
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putting the ingredients in the right places and starting that build the right way. If you can
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claw a couple of points like that, I reckon that's a real win for them in 2026.
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Yeah, I think if they can, as you said, squeeze into a top 10 or maybe squeeze into a Q2 or a
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Shot Q3 at a track, I think it'll be really good signs and promising signs to hopefully
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a bit of longevity. Can we get you to stick around for a little bit longer?
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Sounds good to me. All right, more on F125 and the critical second half of the season right after this.
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Hope you're enjoying this episode of Rusty's Garage. We will be at the Singapore Grand Prix
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and the Bathurst 1000 in October, as well as MotoGP at Phillip Island, huge month for motorsport.
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Right now though, the Convo on F1 and this weekend's Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort continues
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with our guest, Matt Hickey from Code Sports. Hey, it's been pretty quiet on the Christian
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Horner front. Someone said to me the other day, is there a chance of walking away altogether,
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made good money, won world championships with one of the best teams in the game in two
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special chapters, Vettel and Verstappen. They've had more winners on their books
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since then, obviously. Do you think he could do that or is there more chance of
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hell freezing over? I mean, he just loves the sport so much that you can't not see him
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coming back. Also married a spice girl, which is potentially another reason to hang around at home,
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but look, just a boulevard competitor, no pun intended, it's very hard to see him completely
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walking away from the sport. However, he's left in such a manner in the last few years has
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been relatively tumultuous for Christian with some things that have been popping up in the
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headlines. It's, I don't think out of this world to imagine him going, all right,
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maybe I've just had enough for now and potentially a year or two out of the game and he's got,
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you know, young kids, I believe, from memory. So to hang around and maybe be with them a little
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bit more. But I get the feeling we will somewhere down the track, whether it's in a month or a year
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or five years, we'll see Christian Horner somewhere. Alex Palau from IndyCar has been
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linked to that second Red Bull seat. Chip Ganassi has been pretty quick to kind of
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torpedo that and say it's clickbait. Will he, won't he, could he cut it,
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do you reckon? I mean, an ultra competitive racer.
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Yeah, look, I think all of these guys are so, so skilled that they would all
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not be miles off. But as we know, in F1, it's a matter of tenths of seconds and two tenths
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of seconds. I think with time, he would definitely have the quality to do it. But
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as we've seen so often in that Red Bull second seat, they don't give anybody the time.
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So I would be fascinated if they went with an untested person at this level. Of course,
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we've seen him be fantastic elsewhere. Just purely based off what they've done previously,
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because if you're not going to give somebody the time to get used to it,
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then you need to get somebody experienced straight into the door.
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It does seem like that move would be not 180, but a real break from tradition for someone
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like Helmut Marco. You're absolutely right there. Good battle for the miners at the moment.
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When we look further down the constructors' standings, what is it? If I've got the numbers
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right, William 70, Aston Martin 52, Sauber 51, Racing Bulls 45, and you could even throw,
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I guess, Haas in there as well, who I think are about 10 points behind RB. That little
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game will be worth watching over the final 10 races as well, won't it?
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Certainly. I love these little battles down the order, because all of a sudden,
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those one or two points for 10th and 9th become stunningly crucial. If somebody can somehow
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catapult themselves into Q3 and maybe get towards 7th, 8th, 6th, it's a game changer.
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I think it's going to be really fascinating. There's also a team down the bottom who might have
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done some things to an Australian driver that we weren't too thrilled about. Maybe
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down the bottom is not a bad spot for them, Rusty. I still haven't heard whether Franco
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Kalpinto's 5-race trial is over yet, but there's going to be some fascinating things down that
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order. I think Williams maybe have separated themselves in that fifth spot, but as you say,
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Aston Martin down. It's going to be really close, and as everybody knows, millions of dollars
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at stake as well. Fernando, what is he now? 44 or something or rather, and all the
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eyes on 2026 and working with Adrian on what hopefully will be a good car. That would be
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insane to think he was fighting for podiums potentially next year.
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Yeah, phenomenal. I also get the feeling he's got something up his sleeve at some race
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to end this year, to really have a big say in that fight down the constructors as well.
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It's remarkable what he's doing at the moment. He's a freak of an athlete.
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Couple to finish. Daniel Riccardo popped up at a conference on the Gold Coast recently.
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He looks real kind of bare grills on us with that massive beard that he says his time in Formula
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1 is done. Could you maybe see him doing a, I posed this question on radio the other day,
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maybe a little one off thing. Go and do a Bathurst 1000, go and do a, I don't know,
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Le Mans 24 hour. I still feel like he's got racer in him, even though he's off and enjoying
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life beyond motorsport at the moment. I mean, as we see with most of these guys that it's very
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hard for them to completely walk away from the sport because that competitive juice never really
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dies off. It would be fantastic. Can you imagine the roar at Mount Panorama if you went round at
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Bathurst? It would be unbelievable. It would be incredible. I just really, and I'm a massive
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Daniel Riccardo fan. It's fantastic to see him. I think he's really enjoying his time
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away. We know how difficult it was for him at the back end of his F1 career, chopping and
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changing teams, getting so much criticism and maybe unwarranted feedback as well.
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So he seems to be really enjoying himself away from the spotlight and I'm sure at some point
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we will get a little taste of Daniel Riccardo here or there. Maybe it might even be in the
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States. We know his love for NASCAR and things like that as well. As always, you have been
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awesome. Congrats on turning the big 3-0 and thank you for coming back on the pot again today.
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Cheers, Rossi. We are just about out of time for this one. Next week,
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the art of helmet painting with one of the best in the world and he hails from our corner too.
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Enjoy the Dutch Grand Prix. Have an awesome weekend everybody. Bye for now.