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A list-snap, production. Welcome to the motorsport brief, a catch-up with the F1 World Championship
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leader, Oscar Piaestry, here in beautiful Singapore. Hi everyone, Rusty with you for a special
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ep of the garage, short cast, very excited to be on the ground for a big week at Formula
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1's official night race. The sport arrives a fortnight after Azerbaijan, which in some ways
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went off-script, certainly for what we've seen in much of 2025. It was a tough one for
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Oscar. His teammate and title rival, Lando Norris, didn't make a huge gain either after
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Oscar's early exit there, so the points gap between them is now basically the equivalent
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of a Grand Prix win. Max Verstappen's resurgence in Baku has plenty of people talking. Can
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he catch Lando, who was 44 points ahead of Max on the ladder, as we said on the pod
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last week, perhaps he will be the ultimate disruptor in these final races. Red Bull upgraded
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their current monster in Italy, and since then, Max has won two straight. But the Marina
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Bay Circuit is something of a bogey track for him. There's been podiums here for sure,
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but no wins for Verstappen in eight appearances. He needs a lot to go his way to have a decent
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hope of winning a fifth straight world title, but it's not beyond the realms of mathematical
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possibility. In terms of recent history, Lando won the Singapore Grand Prix last year. Oscar
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was on the podium, too. The McLaren team is very close to wrapping up the 2025 constructors
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title, and that is almost certainly going to happen this weekend. The team has maintained
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a very unified approach to get to this point, and if they can seal the constructors, seven
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races before the season ends, you'd argue it's all been worth it. There hasn't been the
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Mercedes 2016 Hamilton vs. Rossburg on track. Some in the paddock here, though, are starting
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to question whether they now need to get behind one driver if Max's form continues in order
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for McLaren to also win the coveted drivers title. It has the makings of a pretty cool
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weekend when you think about all of that. Then throw in the heat, the humidity, the races
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here often go the full two hours, and it is slightly later than usual on the calendar.
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Will we get some wet weather? It is going to be huge. If you're looking for a good debrief
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on Baku to set you up for the weekend, check out the chat with Matt Hickey from Code Sports,
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the most recent episode in our library, and we'll be on the ground for Bathurst next week
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too on heading there after the Singapore GP. There is a Ripper Convo with Mark Winterbottom
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who had that come back to the podium, the return to the podium with Tickford at the 500
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at the bend. Nice to speak with him again. Let's get to our guest. First time that we've
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had him on this season, I'm grateful to McLaren for giving us a slot, because as you'd
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expect, there was a lot of interest from mainstream media in Australia right now. At this point
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of the season, with everything going on, you could understand if they limited that perhaps
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scaled it back just to enable Oscar to focus on the job at hand. I also tried to think of a few
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talking points that didn't just relive stuff that's been debated ad nauseam by other outlets throughout
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the season. Enjoy the conversation with Oscar P. Astry. Welcome. How are you? I'm very good.
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Thanks, how are you? It's awesome to see you again. Thank you very much for doing this for us.
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The year so far on balance Oscar, lots of highs. Has it exceeded your expectations when you
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sit out? How do you feel about it at all at this point and so on? I think yes, it has exceeded
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expectations. I mean, this is kind of what I hoped it wouldn't look like, but yeah, you know,
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if you said I was in this position before the season started, I would have definitely taken it.
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It's been a great season. Obviously, a lot of highs, some lows as well, but I think yeah,
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like I said, on balance, it's been a really good season. The teams stepped up as well. The car
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we've had this year has been phenomenal and it's been nice to put it to good use more off
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than the nuts, so it's been been a great year. Can we go to Baku? That last round was tough
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naturally, but I think I said it to a colleague today with 24 rounds. You're bound to get
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something that's, you know, maybe not on the side of the ledger that you want. How have you
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framed that? How have you kind of moved forward from that? Yeah, I mean, just trying to analyze
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it as best as I could, and you know, unfortunately, just a few mistakes all on the same weekend that kind
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of made it look like a pretty dramatic weekend, but ultimately, I think, you know, just trying to
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take the lessons from it and move on. Yeah, you know, some pretty simple mistakes, unfortunately,
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so Singapore's a new place, a very different track, you know, still a street circuit, but very
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different speeds to Baku, so yeah, I'm looking forward to getting back out there. You and I are
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talking with a thunderstorm happening outside. Do you think we might get that, and what is that
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like if we do? I mean, you never know, in Singapore, I think, yeah, we've had rain, I think the
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two years I've come here now, and this is the third, I think we've had rain nearly every day at
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some point. It's just never coincided with the session for me, so I think Thursday of the weekend
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is supposed to be pretty wet and thundery, but I think the rest of the weekend is still a chance,
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so we'll have to wait and see what again, you never know, in an hour it could be dry again here,
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so we'll wait and see what we get. Can I come back to the way you answer the Baku question,
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because I sense Oscar, that that's a real asset of yours, the way that you deal with things
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like this, the ability to kind of move on to not dwell on things. Is that something you've always
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had or is that something you've had to learn in this business? How did you get to that point?
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I would say both, I think it is, I wouldn't say it was something I just had naturally from the start,
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I mean, maybe an element of it, but I feel like I kind of picked it up pretty quickly.
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There's obviously a lot of work that goes into maintaining that, and as we all know, in motorsport,
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a lot of stuff goes wrong, and there's a lot of things that go wrong that you can't do anything
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about either. I can't change what happened in Baku. I've done the analysis and look through
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things I can change and try and improve, but once you've got to that point, then there's
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kind of no point trying to dwell on it, and I think, for me, just trying to remove the emotion from
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that is, I think that's the part that's probably the more natural part, is removing the emotion from it,
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but definitely trying to move on from it is something I've learned along the way through experiences,
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and hard work of myself and the people around me too. Great asset, I wish I had that at my age. My
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youngest daughter is doing a little bit of social see with us, my oldest one. Got some great
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advice from a supermodel one, so Kiwi, supermodel, Georgia Fowler, she'll hate me telling this story,
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but she told her to be gritty. That was kind of the best piece of advice, and really resonated with her.
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Have you had something like that? This is a brutal business. What formula one is like? What bits of advice
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have you had for this game? I think that is generally good advice, but I think it kind of goes back to
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what I said before. There's a lot of things that will go wrong. It's not a matter of if they go
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wrong, it's when, and it's kind of how you deal with that. It's the same thing in life, I guess.
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There's a lot of things that are not going to go exactly how you want, and you have the choice of
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how you rack to them. Again, if you can control it, then you can do something about it and change it,
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and if you can't control it, then it's not always easy, but trying to move on from it and do something
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you can control. That's what I try to focus on. I guess that's the same thing. Like you said,
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it's a brutal sport. You don't often have much time to feel sorry for yourself, and there's
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everyone can feel sorry for themselves, but that's not how you improve yourself and try and
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become a better driver in races. Much older than you, obviously, came through in a year when
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Mark Weber was racing. He's been through some tough moments in his game. How helpful has he been
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generally, and even this year? He seems to stay largely out of the line line in his role now,
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doesn't he? I think he's very hard working behind the scenes on how, if you're trying to make my
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life as as simple as possible, whether that's from not currently, but whether it's been contracts in
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the past, or more just the ins and outs of being an F1 driver and a lot of the things that people
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don't see, simple things like just knowing how I'm going to feel at the back end of a season with
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all the traveling, organizing that as efficiently as we can, just trying to make everything as easy
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as we can. He doesn't want to be in the spotlight. He probably feels he's spent enough there and
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wants to move away from it a bit, which is fine, but no, he's been incredibly helpful.
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Great podcast chat with my colleague Tom Clarkson and your engineer Tom Stowler in recent months.
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He's been a silver medalist in rowing, in Beijing, things like that. Do you draw from that sporting
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mindset? You love other sports by nature? Is that side of what he brings to the table, not just
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his engineering skill, something that you work with? I think probably more so behind the scenes,
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and I think it's a real asset of Tom's that he's kind of experienced, it's slightly different,
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obviously different sports, but he very much has understood from an athlete's point of view what
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the pressure is like performing at Olympics. I would say he is a hell of a lot harder than you've
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got one chance in four years at an Olympics. We've got 24 changes a year. So I think in some ways,
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understanding that pressure, the hard work, obviously the engineers are putting in hard work,
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but I think very much understands at a closer level the hard work of an athlete,
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the schedule, the physical training, the diet, whatever it might be, and I think also just
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being in the fight and being again the one that can kind of influence it as the driver,
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the rower as the athlete, he's been in those shoes which is rare. So I think that's a real
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asset and I think in the high pressure scenarios, that's where it kind of naturally helps, I would
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say, but I think it just really helps with understanding, not just for me, but for the whole team,
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obviously we've got a lot of things to balance through the weekend, driving, being the most important
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part and where the results are, but we've got a lot of sponsors, we've got a lot of fans,
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all kinds of things that we kind of balance through the weekend and the year, and I think for him
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kind of knowing how that kind of affects things as well, gives him power in the team to make
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our life as simple as possible as well. So good to get him back on the podcast and the good
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news is, we are not done yet, more with Oscar PS3 right after this.
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You're listening to the motorsport brief recorded in the heart of Singapore before the GP
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action got underway at Marina Bay back to the chat with Oscar now.
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I love your passion for other sports and that's clearly a bit of an escape for you from all this.
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Aussie sports fans have probably struggled a little bit to kind of appreciate the spirit of fairness,
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right, that Andreia and McLaren have worked so hard on. And we've seen in Formula One over time
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when you have two very competitive athletes at the peak of their powers or having a great run
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in good machinery, it's very difficult to balance all that. Give us your take on how that's worked
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and how well it's worked perhaps, let them know a bit about that. Yeah, I mean, I think it is
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you know, it is a difficult sport in that aspect. You know, you've got a team of over a thousand
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people, which includes the two drivers, all fighting for the Constructors Championship.
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But then you've also got two of those people being the drivers wanting their own championship
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inside of that. And balancing that is always going to be hard. You know, there's no
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correct way of going about that. There's a lot of different ways you can go about it, but I don't
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think there's a correct one. And you know, again, unless you know all the details, it's incredibly hard
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to, I guess to judge or even to understand. And you know, a lot of those things stay private for
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good reasons. So I mean, I get it, I get it to the outside world that sometimes, you know,
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not every decision is going to make sense to the people watching, but I think within the team where
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we're very at peace with, even if it's not always the right decision, that the intentions are
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there. And you know, if either of us have a problem or anyone in the team has a problem,
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we can speak about it and talk it through. And that's a real strength of ours. I think so.
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Yeah, you know, it's not always going to make sense to people watching. And you know,
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there's going to be biases one way or another for fans, I guess, but yeah, we're very kind of
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at peace as a team on how we manage those things. And that includes myself and Lando. So yeah,
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I think it's a really good team environment. But collectively, if you're at peace with that stuff,
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that's great. That says so much. You've come through in an era when Formula One is box office,
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but you strike me as incredibly down to earth. Has that extra attention impacted you as a person
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as it being difficult to just to stay Oscar? I don't think it's really been difficult to stay me,
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you know, it's definitely been an adjustment and a learning process in terms of firstly,
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people knowing who I am and people supporting me and cheering me. And I think at the track,
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it's kind of become normal in some ways or not necessarily normal, but you get used to it
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because people are there to watch the race and cheer you on. It's more of the interactions
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away from the races that still catch me off guard every now and again, you know, walking the street
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or being in the supermarket, whatever it might be. That's when it kind of goes, you kind of go,
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yeah, okay, this is a bit different how it used to be. So I think for me, that's kind of been
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the main difference or difficulty in adjusting. It's not so much been, you know, leading a completely
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different life. It's how do I live the same life still. And yeah, you know, there's obviously a
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lot of good that comes with that as well. So there's certainly no complaints. It's just a different
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way of going about life now. We haven't got time for it. I'd love to know if you're a good shopper,
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we can do that another time. Seven to go. Don't change a thing in your approach. I mean, it has it,
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you know, has that steely determined Oscar Piaestry that sits across from you now. Maybe got even
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a little bit more to bring to the table over the final run here. I don't know if I have necessarily
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more to bring or if I want to bring more. I think, you know, what I've been doing through the year
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seems to have been working well. And you know, there's been constant refining to that and adjustments.
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And you know, there's been some weekends where I feel like I've performed better than others. You
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know, it's not been, there's been weekends that have been fantastic. There's been weekends that
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have been not so good. So I think just constantly adjusting that and checking in with how I feel like
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I'm performing and where I'm at, that's always an important thing. So yeah, feel like I'm kind of
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on top of that and, you know, adjusting it how I need to on the weekends. But, you know, ultimately
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I'm going there to try and do my best. If we've got the car to win the race, try and win the race.
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That's the most important thing and just get the most out of myself. You know, I've kind of always
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said through through my career, but especially once I got to F1, you know, I don't like to judge my
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my kind of where I'm at based on my results. It's always based on how I feel like I've driven
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that weekend. And you know, there's been races this year that I've won where I've felt that
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a race where I've come second or third has actually been better. So that for me is an important
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thing in continuing to judge it like that's always how I'm going to judge it. And if that means
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I win races, that means I win races. There is a huge wave of support for you at home. I know you'd
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know that trade on that. Have an amazing run to the line. And thank you very much for talking to us
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tonight. No problem. Thank you. 45 years since Alan Jones won the title. Prior to that,
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Sir Jack Brabham in 66, other Aussies have tried, come close, had some success. We hope this is
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Oscar's year. I feel like we're seeing more of his personality coming through too. Did you feel that
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in the conversation? He's not a Hollywood type, but the fact that he's kept true to that says so
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much about him. Now that he's chalked up as many wins as fellow Aussie, Daniel Riccardo in his
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career, Oscar has every right, I guess, to feel like that long term race in this sport is cemented.
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And he can just focus on the big prize. We wish him well for the rest of the championship,
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as I said. We have a big week next week at the mountain for the great race. I'll be working on
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our sister platform, Triple M, as they cover the Baptist 1000. And we'll file some pods for the
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garage while we are there. In the meantime, enjoy the Singapore Grand Prix, everyone. Bye for now.