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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Bring a Trailer podcast.
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My name is Alex Porter.
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On today's episode, I'm joined by Randy and Cam doing a one-year garage game, this time
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We had a lot of fun looking into that model year, doing the research for this episode,
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and really enjoyed discussing the cars that were available and maybe even not available
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to the car buying public.
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Hope you enjoy the episode.
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Thanks as always to our producer, Chris Baxter.
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Bring a trailer podcast.
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Are we talking about movies today?
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Are we talking about cars today?
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What are we talking about?
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We're talking about 1960, and you had some thoughts on the era, Randy.
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I definitely have thoughts on the era.
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I was glad you picked this year and that you included me for it.
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It's kind of a no man's land a little bit between the 50s and the 60s, right?
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You guys were talking about things on the American Graffiti podcast about how the 50s
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kind of dragged into 61, 62, right?
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Tail fins were kind of reducing in size and some new designs were on the horizon but weren't
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I thought that made looking for 1960 model year vehicles super interesting because I've
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got some of my current like searching lists right now that are 56, 57, and then I've got
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I've got no 1960 as like the bogey year and as I search through BAT results, how many
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thousand were there?
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Yeah, so when I looked earlier today, we had six live and 1,602 previous options.
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So a lot of cars from that era, there's plenty to choose from, but it's interesting on what
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the designs and what the types of vehicles that were cool, like I love trucks, but trucks
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were a little iffy in 1960, big American sedans were a little iffy.
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I don't like the Cadillac one year after the big 59 Cad.
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Anyway, our decisions of which cars will kind of speak this out, but that's how I found
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How about you guys?
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Yeah, definitely, definitely a transitionary time and a lot of different aspects.
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I feel like it's kind of encroaching on the end of American confidence a bit.
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I feel like 45, you know, war is ending and you have servicemen coming home, suburbs
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are popping up, prosperity is happening in America and people are buying up the big
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boat vehicles to kind of show off what they're doing.
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And I kind of feel like 1960 is when that confidence in how prosperous the future is
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going to be kind of erodes a bit and you start to see that bleed into car design going away
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from the big boats into more compact designs and different companies trying to figure out
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how are we going to approach the American market moving ahead here.
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Just a lot of weird test beds for vehicles that are going to come.
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Still a harkening for the years past, but yeah, a really interesting year.
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But I thought that confidence comes raging back with some beautifulness of 63, 4 or 5.
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So it's momentarily gone, maybe, if that's what's indeed driving it.
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But I didn't feel like that's gone forever, right?
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Like muscle car era and even like a galaxy from 63 is so fabulous and back to huge again.
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That confidence and drag strip and all that sort of stuff.
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I think maybe if it was a confidence thing that went away, I would still say the 60s,
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even though it's tumultuous, there was still in design of these type vehicles,
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there was still some real mojo happening.
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And same within Europe, like a 9-11 was invented.
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Like cool and motorsport was ripping in the middle 60s, right?
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It's definitely a year of change.
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It's the JFK year, right?
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Taken over from Daddy Eisenhower, no more Eisenhower, Supreme Allied Commander as president.
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It's famously the first televised presidential debate, right?
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Nixon and Kennedy and people who watched Nixon on TV thought he lost because he was sweating.
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But when people listened, they thought Kennedy lost because Nixon made smarter points.
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So like changing there too, right?
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Changing the way people take in their media.
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There's a social media analogy there, right?
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And it is, remember it is.
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Who's smart versus who looks good.
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It's a really, I mean, that's a change in society.
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It's also like thick of the Cold War.
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Red scare is over, but this is the year Francis Gary Powers is shot down in the U-2
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over in the Soviet Union.
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That's like one of the big world events in 1960.
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So it's a spicy time.
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It's missiles in their silos and atom bombs in the bomb bays, right?
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Civil rights movement is really getting kicked in a gear.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Lots happening socially.
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But young President Kennedy, there is some optimism there.
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We want to talk about top music.
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Top film of the year was Swiss Family Robertson.
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I love Swiss Family Robertson.
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I've seen it for sure.
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I didn't know that was the top in the 1960.
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Some other big ones, Spartacus.
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Have you ever seen Spartacus?
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The great Stanley Kubrick.
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Oh man, that's a good one.
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So that's interesting.
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Way further down the list, but a movie I love
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and that was influential later, Ocean's 11.
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The Rat Pack Ocean's 11 is 1960.
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Have you ever seen that one, Cam?
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Modern Ocean's 11 is up there.
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It's one of my favorite movies.
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I should go back and check that one out.
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Definitely taking inspiration from the Rat Pack,
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although I do like the Sotterberg one more.
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I mean, that movie is also a style icon.
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Music, I wasn't going to cover any,
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but you said we should.
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I didn't know a lot of the big hits.
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Well, again, I think it's kind of in this trough
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between like you think of 50s songs
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and then you think of 60s songs
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and these ones are kind of a funky blend of that, right?
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And I don't know if there's some semi-blockbusters,
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but there's not ones that are so far out in front of me.
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Roy Orbison, right?
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Only The Lonely or which one was?
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The Lonely is like, I mean, that's a mega song.
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What else was on the list?
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I've listed these top ones and I'd never heard of them.
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I'm ashamed to say, but you knew them all.
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A theme from a summer place by Percy Faith was another one.
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But I know Percy Faith for sure.
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But yeah, keep going.
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Everly Brothers, Kathy's Clown.
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He'll have to go by Jim Reeves.
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The first one that I knew that was big
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was It's Now or Never Elvis Presley,
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which is a great all-timer.
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I wouldn't mind listening to that
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in a couple of the cars I have on my list.
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I would be pretty good.
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You mentioned a couple, Cam.
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El Paso, Marty Robbins.
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I mean, truly a classic
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that I maybe just didn't get appreciated in its day.
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I'm kind of akin to some of the cars that we'll be selecting.
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You have some great artists appearing in the late 50s, 1960,
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one of mine being Ray Charles.
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But akin to the cars, I maybe would have taken the model
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that came two or three years after the 1960 album.
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But yeah, leading into modern sounds
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of country and western music from him.
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A lot of great stuff.
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But again, similar to the cars of the era,
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a bit of a harkening for the music
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that was happening in the mid to late 50s.
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People still trying to hang on to that.
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And then you get some people coming in with some new ideas
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and bringing some fresh sounds into things.
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No British invasion yet, though.
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Not really in cars either.
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We'll get to that in a minute.
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Formula One, a little bit of British invasion.
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Do you look at the Formula One season ready?
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I wait for you for all this stuff.
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So I'm hearing about this real time.
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Jack Brabham was the champion in a Cooper,
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the early mid-engine Cooper, a T53.
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But there were still front-engine cars in 1960.
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So it was mixed-correct.
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Including Ferrari was still front-engine.
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And then they rushed a mid-engine halfway through the season
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Last year, the 2.5-liter formula,
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they go down to 1.5-liter in 61.
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Kind of end of the era there.
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All the big drivers.
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But the thing that was the most exciting for me
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was Le Mans in 1960.
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We always talk about Le Mans.
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This is as sick as it gets.
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So Ferrari 250 Testarosa's with the closed bodywork,
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not the open bodywork, kind of the revised TR.
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One overall, they were first and second.
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Paul Freer, who grew up reading in Road and Track.
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He's the guy who drove the Yellowbird 211 miles an hour.
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He was the winner with the Oliver Jean de Bien.
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They were in the front car.
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But when you go further back into the ranks,
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It's Ricardo Rodriguez, 19 years old.
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I think he was fourth place in a short wheelbase 250,
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right at the beginning of 250 short wheelbases.
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There's Porsche RSKs.
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There's Cunningham C1 Corvettes.
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This is our whole list to pick here already.
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It's 250 short wheelbases,
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Birdcage Maserati's, Abarth Carreras.
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This year, it was fantastic.
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That's my top five.
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I think you just picked my cars for me.
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Abarth, Porsche, as your family hauler.
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Finally, daily driver or something.
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Birdcage, Camarati Birdcage.
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They all broke, I think, interestingly.
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All the birdcages broke.
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And that's what let the Ferraris get in front.
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But they were really fast.
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And you're exactly right.
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It was the Camarati cars that were so fast.
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Anyway, that was really exciting.
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I love reading about that.
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I got really sucked down the 1960 Le Mans Wikipedia page.
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Here's a little sidebar.
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You know Camarati on the side of a number of race cars?
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They ran, I think, Abarth bubble roof cars.
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They ran, obviously, the birdcages.
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That's an acronym of an American racing team.
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Racing Division is RA-D.
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Somebody, somebody RA-D.
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And Motor Racing Division.
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It's somebody Motor Racing Division.
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It sounds like it's like an Italian exotic name.
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And it's some team from wherever in Torino or whatever.
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And I always thought it was super exotic.
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But it's like some American East Coast dude.
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And that's the team.
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So anyway, we got to find out what the CO says.
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And I would love to know if there is intention behind it.
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Let's pick something that maybe sounds a bit exotic.
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And we know what we're doing.
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Dude, it's Lucky Kassner's racing thing.
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So it's Kassner Motor Racing Division.
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And I read that very recently.
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I forget where, where did I read it?
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But I read that and I was like, holy smokes.
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That's like, because where is that Kass Kassner?
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No, that's a different family.
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Lucky Kassner is just a name I knew from racing.
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But like I never knew that Kamarotti was his team,
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like an acronym for his team.
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Anyway, I thought that was notable.
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And whenever you touch on, we're never going to talk about that name again.
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I got to grab it now.
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If you're talking about Kamarotti, no, I had to drop that.
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Did you read that in that book that Tyler brought through the office?
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You know what it might have been.
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He brought a racing program from the Pebble Beach Road races.
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And I was looking at that.
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It may have been in there.
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It may have been in that hot rod history.
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I've been reading both those sort of intertwined.
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I forget which one it was.
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But anyway, that's where that came from.
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I'll forever think of that when I see the bird cage.
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Another cool thing about this era that that makes me think of is like
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hot rodding and the American stuff you and I like.
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Randy is still kind of intermixed with European racing.
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Like Briggs Cunningham is taking C1 Corvettes over to Europe to race.
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And I believe at this stage, the Indy 500 was still part of the Formula One season.
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And so you'd come over and race the Indy 500.
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And a lot of the great drivers couldn't qualify at the Brickyard.
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Famously, I think Fangio, he's like the champion,
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but he couldn't qualify for that race because all the USAC and Circle Track guys
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would come out and beat the European champion level guys.
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I wish there was more of that today.
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Once in a while, you get a mix of some crazy European will try the Indy
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or other way around, you know, not much Formula One experimentation.
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But some of that is cool.
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It was super mixed up back then.
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So anyway, 60 is an interesting year.
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Car, car industry, geopolitical, Americana, all the stuff.
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One other interesting car related thing happening around this time
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is the Federal Aid Highway Act passed in 56.
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So by 60, interstate highways were under full construction,
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which I'm sure influenced a lot of the design.
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Was it not before that?
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Was it not like 50s?
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Or did it take till 60s until they actually got it over the goal line?
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So you'll know more than I will if you read about it.
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But I was watching Band of Brothers with my son last night,
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and they show a really cool scene with all the German troops
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marching out of Germany down the middle of the Autobahn
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and all the Americans and British tanks rolling in.
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And famously, Eisenhower saw that.
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We were able to move our army around on the Autobahns.
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And he's like, God, we need this in America.
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We need like an interconnected series of big highways
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in case we need to move the army around the interior of the United States.
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And that's what he used as justification to ram this through federally.
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Right? That was an era when states paid for things.
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So federally funding this big thing was a huge deal.
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Yeah, one of the biggest construction projects probably in human history.
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But yeah, I'm sure that led to car companies being like,
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all right, people can travel places.
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Let's make things comfortable.
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Let's get families places.
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But just that interesting timeline thing I wanted to point out.
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But we're still really before a huge...
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And yet I still want a bug I spray on your brand new highway.
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But it's still before a large invasion of European cars.
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This is still like, there's not a ton of options in 1960 for imports.
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For Japanese cars, basically.
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Japanese, they made cars, but it'd be interesting to look at Toyota history
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and Toyo Pet and all the weird stuff and if it had actually landed.
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If they were actually selling a retail Japanese car,
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I think they did starting in like 58.
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I've got one on my list that I believe was sold here.
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I don't know if I'll get to it or not.
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All right, you guys, anything else to say about the year?
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Should we dive into the picks?
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People want to hear about cars.
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They love our political commentary, but they actually want to hear...
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A little more about the space race?
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You know, the Artemis spaceship blasted off today.
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We've got an aviation corner.
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Yeah, first humans leaving Earth orbit in 60 years is happening today.
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This was the year that we shot the chimpanzee into space.
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61 was the first time an American went into space,
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but 60 is first animal.
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American animal, yeah.
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Ham, the chimpanzee.
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Okay, so quick reminder for folks listening
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on how we play the one-year garage game.
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We are each going to pick five cars.
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So 15 cars in total will be picked from five separate categories.
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We'll go around and there's no overlap, so order matters here.
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And I have not done anything to pick order yet,
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but we will determine that in just a minute.
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The five categories that each of us will be picking from are sports car,
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daily driver, truck 4x4, family hauler, and wild card.
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I'm going to write some names here.
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C for Cam, E for Alex, R for Randy, and Cam's going to pick.
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The order, which matters.
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All right, dun dun dun.
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Alex P. Love that one.
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I think it's not going to matter.
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I don't think there's going to be a tremendous amount of overlap,
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but it'll be interesting.
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There are a few very obvious picks, I think,
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that maybe we would have friction over.
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I like going third.
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I'm still doing my-
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Randy's researching.
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I feel like in the past, I have ventured outside of vehicles
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that we've listed on the site,
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so I really tried to stick to specific cars
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that we have had on the site this time.
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Oh, do you have lot numbers?
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I have the most specific lot numbers that I want for this
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than any other year we've ever picked.
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And I'm going to start with sports car and pick one of those.
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And this is one of the cars-
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Randy's going to remember this one.
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This is one of the cars that I wanted the most.
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So for sports car, I'm going to pick 356B,
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and this is the Condor Yellow GT Tank Speedster Stripe Car
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that our buddy Trevor Kroff listed forever ago.
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Do you remember this car?
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Yes, Speedster Side Spears, and it's that yellow color.
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Okay, so we've listed a number in this yellow color.
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I have another one.
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Were you looking at the Super?
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I'm looking at the GT.
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We've had a couple GTs of those,
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and we had a very early BAT GT clone.
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But that car I also remember.
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So I loved this one.
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It had a big tank or a wheel interior.
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Yeah, it has the 80-liter tank and the Speedster Stripes.
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But the thing I loved about it, and back wrote this listing up,
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is this first owner picked it up in Europe, drove it everywhere.
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We'll link to this.
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It's lot number 12,777, way back in 2015.
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This is lot 12,000.
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Yeah, but now we're-
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Oh gosh, that's tiny.
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I was thinking about 24,000.
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Okay, that's number 12,000.
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That's not halfway cam.
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This was owned for many years by the head landscape architect of Caltrans,
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and the little lookout right to the north of the Golden Gate Bridge
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is named after this guy.
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And there's all kinds of cool picks, and all of his badges are on the dash
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that events he took it to.
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So the history on this car.
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I've even asked Robbie and Trevor a couple times what happened to this car.
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I've always loved it.
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I love a 356B in general.
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But this car, yellow California plates, just a great car.
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You do remember that one, Randy?
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Absolutely, because you and I talk about it every couple years we check in
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and reminisce on that car.
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And that's a cool one.
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And I used to be an anti-356B snob.
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I was like, speedsters in A. Speedsters in A is do whatever you have to do.
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And I have warmed to Bs and B roadsters.
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And some of those were on my list here, but I think you're-
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We can't go for just a different version.
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I can't steal just a different version of the B.
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You grabbed 356B, which is a winning offering of 1960, if you ask me.
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And how much larger was the GT tank compared to the stock?
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80 versus something?
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80 liter is the size of a 911 tank.
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That's like what's in the 912.
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For a 1600 four-cylinder, that's a lot of gas.
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There was an optional 100 liter for 911s,
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which takes up a pretty big chunk of the trunk.
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I'm finding good stuff from 60, by the way.
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Back as far as 2023, and I'm finding some goodness.
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There's lots of goodness.
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So you can have 356B.
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I was sad at first, but now I'm good with it.
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No, there's some big cars that get left on the table here.
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And I debated taking the car that I bet Cam is going to take right now.
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For my sports car pick, it was a tough one,
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but I ended up going with is lot number 117962.
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And it is a 1960 Abarth 750 Cestriere by Zagato.
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And actually I worked on this car when it came in.
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If I was really choosing the one I'd want,
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we had a 58 that had the true double bubble on it.
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A fantastic looking car.
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But just Zagato built, aluminum body.
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And I think what really stands out to me with this car
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is just looking at the 600 that this car was based off of.
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Like this really screams like a master class in constraint
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and kind of leading to the engineering and design of a race car.
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Where you basically had this super consumer based 600
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that was the platform for this car.
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But the twin intakes on the back, the little vent scoops on the sail vents.
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Like just all the little design touches on this car really do it for me.
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The alloys on those are unusual, right?
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So many cars came with steel and that came with those cool alloy.
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Yeah, really, I don't have too much insight on these vehicles.
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I just think it's a cool piece of racing history, a cool point in history for Zagato.
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I feel like this kind of proved that he could or they could as a company
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design more race oriented bodies for chassis.
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You get Abarth and Zagato too, which I love these cars too,
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particularly the double bubble ones, which are earlier, right?
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The body's changed by 60, but I've heard it pointed out a couple of times.
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Not that these are cheap, but it's the cheapest way to getting both of those names,
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like into your garage, Zagato and Abarth.
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And it's like a coach built alloy body and they're racy.
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There's racing versions, street versions.
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Have you been up close to one?
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And for me, it was kind of between this or I'll actually, I won't say.
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There's enough variety that you may still be able to get some of the other things.
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You did not go in the direction I thought you were going, although that is a great pick.
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I do love that this thing was out there competing with 356s and kind of crushing them though,
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With 750cc or 850cc instead of the Porsches had 1.5s or 1.6s, right?
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I mean, it was, that's interesting to see.
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Crushing, I don't know.
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You're going to upset the Porsche freaks.
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I don't know if they were crushing the Porsches, but they were doing something.
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You know, there were twin cam alpha motors out in the same gear.
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So, but they were in a different class.
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Is that where we're headed next, Randy?
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That was in a different class.
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So, no, I'm going to curveball you.
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I'm going to curveball you.
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Oh, is that a sports car?
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I would argue sports and daily have a lot of overlap here.
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And I had to grab the 356 before somebody else did.
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If I didn't think that was in danger, I probably would have picked that as my daily,
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but I knew I had to get 356 in quick on this one.
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Okay, so I'm going to defer to you guys on whether this is a sports car or not,
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because I want it and you guys are maybe going to grab it for another category,
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but 60 for me, my mind went straight to DB4.
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Oh, no, no, I think that's a sports car.
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But these days, it's kind of smaller.
20:40
And I am a, you know, super opinionated on the Cathedral tail lights, the vertical tails.
20:47
I have that exact car up.
20:48
This is going to be my daily.
20:53
We've only just did one 1960 model.
20:55
We have a lot of 58, 9, 61, whatever.
20:59
This one is silver.
20:59
I wouldn't do a silver one just because of the bond association.
21:03
How far into the series is this?
21:04
This is like a series three.
21:06
I get confused on all of them.
21:08
This is a fairly early car, series two car.
21:11
And I'm all about series one and series two, because the round tail lights in the DB5,
21:15
the stacked tail lights, like I don't think are as elegant.
21:18
And these cars are cool.
21:20
I mean, they, you know, they drive like a, like a British car for better or worse.
21:25
And they're a little bigger to be sporting.
21:27
If I was chasing you and you're a rear-engined Zagato car, it may be a little bit of a challenge.
21:31
But yeah, I thought about Alphas, thought about other stuff.
21:33
There's a lot of actually good stuff for sporting category.
21:35
Where some of the other categories are a little more tricky.
21:38
But this is just, this is actually a bucket list car for me.
21:41
Don't want a DB5, want a DB4.
21:45
Yeah, that's the sports car.
21:50
I think there were 60s.
21:53
But we haven't listed.
21:55
We haven't listed one.
21:56
So DB4 GT is the ultimate, ultimate for me.
21:59
You saw the kind of ratty series four we just had on the site, which I was following and they loved.
22:05
And then I'd get to the, I instantly go to the gallery and look at the rear of the car.
22:09
And I'm like, no, I can't do it.
22:11
I just have weird guardrails like that.
22:14
Ask DB4 always way up on my list.
22:16
Have never owned one.
22:17
Got to drive one of a somewhat, you know, famous, awesome BAT user, Don Rose.
22:23
Shout out to Don Rose.
22:25
He was big in the Aston Martin Club and Ray Stumm and stuff.
22:28
And my buddy and I were out East and rung him up once and he showed up in a DB4 and
22:32
let me drive it in flip flops, which was terrifying.
22:36
The only time I've ever driven an Aston in my life.
22:38
You guys ever been in an Aston or something driven one?
22:40
A late, late model.
22:43
I've never been in a V8 or a Vantage or anything, the new cool stuff.
22:45
But I got to sit and drive around a little country lane in a circle in a real DB4.
22:51
And I was like, mountain top moment.
22:53
This had to be 2013.
22:55
Dude, you always reveal something cool like that.
22:58
DB4s are like way over DB5 for me personally.
23:01
I like the earlier DB3s and even two fours also, but the four is the ultimate.
23:06
I always imagine it being kind of a big, torquey six cylinder.
23:09
Is that what it felt like?
23:10
It's like being a sportier Jag.
23:12
You know, it's like a big, big car, but elegant and I don't know.
23:17
You're scared when you're me and you get in it and it's somebody else's car and stuff.
23:21
You're just going to say daily.
23:22
I mean, can you imagine actually driving one of those would be killer?
23:27
All the dials and all.
23:29
I mean, you don't have to explain it to folks.
23:30
It's kind of an icon.
23:32
But getting to be in the actual presence of them is really cool.
23:35
We need one around here, I think.
23:37
But truly the enclosed lights of the DB4 GT really make that car.
23:41
Like that is the DB4.
23:42
Well, and it gets stubbier proportion.
23:44
We had it sits a little higher because it's more bulbous and it always has big tires on it.
23:47
That car has some really weird details though, right?
23:49
Like there's no trunk because there's this huge spare in the trunk
23:52
and then engines are a little more temperamental.
23:54
I really like the GT too.
23:56
I mean, those used to show up at the Monterey Historics and run all the time.
24:00
I don't think there were any there last year,
24:02
but there used to be two or three in that class against the Ferraris and stuff.
24:06
There were some great ones local to Bay Area as well,
24:09
but all from across the country.
24:13
Then you get into the DB4 GT Zagados, which are even.
24:16
Oh, I'm actually, yeah, unpopular opinion.
24:18
I actually would rather have a normal DB4 GT than a Zagato.
24:21
And people think I'm a Neanderthal because I say that,
24:24
but that's my story.
24:26
I'm sticking to it.
24:27
Here's the contrarian.
24:28
Well, I love the window line on these.
24:30
That's my favorite thing is like the roof line and window line,
24:33
and it's different on the Zagato.
24:35
That's what I love about the DB4,
24:38
which an Eve is a little thinner and more elegant than a DB5.
24:41
It's like a little bit lower profile.
24:43
Anyway, love those cars.
24:47
There's a car that I can't believe nobody took there,
24:50
which I guess I'm just going to do for my daily driver
24:53
because I kind of want to have it.
24:54
I maybe should have done that for daily.
24:56
Anyway, what's that going to be?
24:57
That's going to be a Mercedes 300 SL roadster.
25:02
I'm closing tabs as you guys peel them off
25:04
because I'm not allowed to have them.
25:06
I'm obviously a Gullwing guy,
25:07
but I have really, particularly during the time,
25:10
I mean, come on, so good.
25:12
And with a hard top in particular,
25:13
they're just about as good looking as a Gullwing.
25:15
You don't get the cool Gullwing door.
25:18
I used to be like, didn't care about roadsters at all,
25:21
but working at BAT has really changed my tune,
25:23
particularly seeing some of the ones we've listed.
25:25
We've listed a lot of red ones, which is interesting.
25:27
I don't know if I would have one of them in red.
25:29
White and red is kind of the colors we've listed.
25:31
I don't know what color I would have.
25:32
I think one in black would be great.
25:34
And I would also be interested in contrasting hard top.
25:36
I'm interested in contrasting hard top and hub caps to match.
25:41
That's the setup is really neat looking.
25:43
Red would not be my color, but we listed a great red with a black hard top.
25:46
Yes, I like that car a lot.
25:47
And I think I had red wheels too, didn't it?
25:50
Gullwing is probably my favorite car of all time.
25:53
It's right up there.
25:54
That and Toyota 2000 GT.
25:55
So 300 SL roadster, which is not...
25:58
It's weird that they call them roadsters
25:59
because it's not quite a roadster really.
26:02
It's more like a convertible.
26:03
But anyways, I really, really, really like those cars.
26:06
And I think we could daily one of those.
26:08
I don't think it would be too bad.
26:10
Well, here's a question.
26:11
Is that a sports car?
26:11
Or is that kind of in the DB4 category where it's a little bit of a toss up?
26:16
It is kind of a sports car.
26:17
You could pick that as a sports car.
26:19
Yeah, we've seen them driven fast, right?
26:21
And I've spent some miles driving around with people driving those.
26:25
That's what the S stands for.
26:27
It stands for sport.
26:28
So we can say that the marketing worked, right?
26:32
I mean, it's a tube frame car.
26:34
I think it's pretty sporty.
26:35
We'll give it that.
26:37
We're sitting over here deciding.
26:38
As my dad always says, the roadster is the better car.
26:40
They've updated the suspension.
26:42
They've got disc brakes.
26:43
They did evolve the formula a little bit.
26:45
I'm still a goal guy, but no goal in 1960.
26:48
I thought for sure one of you guys was going to take 300 SL.
26:51
I thought about it.
26:52
I mean, it's in the tabs.
26:53
I've fired open like 12 tabs and I want all of them.
26:55
So now I just am trying to feed them into the categories.
27:00
You're totally right that this is it's heavy on sports and it's going to get a
27:02
little trickier in truck and family hauler.
27:05
So daily driver allows you your second sports car.
27:08
So where are you going to take it?
27:10
And that's what I'm doing.
27:11
Randy took my daily driver with the DB4.
27:14
So I'm going to pivot over to a 1960.
27:17
This is very similar to the Fiat.
27:19
But 1960, Giulietta Sprint Zagato.
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And this is lot number 177294.
27:26
And this is actually a TardaFlorio class winning example.
27:30
This is a great car.
27:31
That's a great car.
27:32
It's a really good car.
27:33
I would absolutely love to daily drive this thing around.
27:36
That's the one that's like a.
27:37
It's like a lozenge.
27:40
It's like an oval, funny little car.
27:42
The front and back chopped off of a Giulietta, right?
27:45
The Coda Trunca as they called it.
27:47
But again, another car that the body was designed by the engineering team before any
27:52
designers actually got to touch it.
27:54
So it has a really funky chopped off look to it.
27:57
But all of it is completely functional and performance oriented.
28:01
And I mean, 1290 double overhead cam and these cars are pretty classic.
28:05
I don't think you can really go wrong.
28:08
Does that one have some race images or any motorsport images to be cool?
28:13
I always think those should be the lead photo, but they end up kind of buried.
28:17
Well, a lot of times the car is totally different than what it was.
28:22
But I mean, but I mean, that's what I want the wall of my home to just be muraled out with.
28:28
Is that you want to be crossing the finish line at the TardaFlorio in 1960?
28:33
That's where I wanted to be standing.
28:34
I was not dealt that card, but that car is super cool.
28:38
And arguably probably a better sports car than my sports car,
28:41
but I don't think I'm going to complain if they're all sitting in my garage.
28:44
They both have those crazy spindly buttress seats.
28:47
Those are in both the Kota Troncos and in the Zagato A-bars.
28:51
They both have those like crazy little thin.
28:53
They almost look like an airplane seat or something.
28:55
Little tiny lightweight thing with two buttresses holding them together.
28:59
Some paper with some wooden sticks.
29:03
The minimal amount of cushion weight.
29:06
And that specific one is superb.
29:09
I have a hard time.
29:10
I don't know if you have this clear.
29:11
Maybe you do, Randy.
29:12
There's all kinds of different weird,
29:14
we're vamping for Randy a little bit while he furiously searches for his dick.
29:18
Come to me whenever you want.
29:20
No, this is a real question that I have though,
29:21
which is when you look those up, there's like a million.
29:24
They change those bodies a lot as they were evolving that car.
29:27
They're like different every year.
29:29
It's a little bit like the Ferraris,
29:31
Almost every one is different than the one before it,
29:33
which is both super confusing,
29:35
but also kind of rad like each car is its own deal.
29:37
Yeah, super confusing if you work on the curation team,
29:40
but leads to some really awesome cars.
29:43
And I feel like 1960, 61, 62 is kind of the end of the big coach built era
29:50
of you having these companies that can remain in the green,
29:55
just making bodies for these other consumer vehicle manufacturers.
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And I feel like that really drops off once you get into 63, 62.
30:04
Some Italian dude just ripping sigs with a hammer pounding on aluminum.
30:10
That was adjacent to the dark floria finish line.
30:14
He was like half a block over.
30:16
He was just out of frame.
30:18
You picked it up from your shop one day before the race.
30:21
He's like, you see that little house over in the corner of the photo?
30:23
Like he's in that house.
30:24
He was through half a bottle of wine,
30:26
Hannah beating, smoking sigs, plaid shirt suspenders.
30:32
That's what I want to be.
30:34
Yeah, totally same.
30:35
All right, Randy, daily driver, second sports car.
30:39
Actually, I'm going super different directions because it should probably be family car,
30:43
but I'm going to go.
30:45
Do you remember this when it was listed on BAT?
30:49
This 1960 Chevrolet.
30:52
We talked about this.
30:53
So I'm feeding you a question.
30:54
You should say yes to this because...
30:57
How did I miss that?
30:58
The 60-Bell Air Sport Coupe 348 four-speed on steels in factory like Sky Blue with blue interior,
31:06
and it's got a four on the floor and not a car I would think of.
31:10
So is that technically still bubble top or was 59 bubble tops?
31:14
I don't know, but it's got that windshield that kind of wraps up up to the top roof line,
31:17
which I associate with that term, but there are other experts out there that can talk about it.
31:21
It becomes the 390 big block, or it's like a medium block, whatever it is, right?
31:26
90 was a Ford, or maybe that was...
31:29
Sorry, it becomes the 396, right?
31:33
What is the cubic inch on it?
31:36
Solid lifter, four-barrel, four-speed, 14-inch steel wheels.
31:41
People should genuinely just go look at this car because the presentation was cool.
31:45
It's in Ozark, Missouri, which is like the town version of this car, right?
31:51
It's just like perfect middle of the country, awesome, not that far from where it originated
32:00
And my dad always described these like the 5960, 61 Chevrolet sort of evolution.
32:06
The fins were smooth on the early cars, and then the fins got a notch in them.
32:10
This is like the notched fin with the round taillights.
32:13
And it's a bell there, so it's sort of high trim, but this is like a performance big Chevy.
32:18
It's like the precursor to the 409, effectively, in my mind.
32:23
It's just one that came across BAT.
32:25
You get these every once in a while.
32:26
You guys may feel the same.
32:28
Where it's not a car, a model you were looking for, you've thought about,
32:30
you've thought about in years or whatever, but it comes across and it just like smacks you.
32:34
And it's just like, that's the one.
32:36
And you're like the guy presented it right.
32:38
It's got the right color.
32:39
I haven't seen one of those in 10 years.
32:41
Like this is incredible.
32:43
And I don't even want one of this model, but if I could daily that car, I'd be so pumped.
32:48
It's the specific car.
32:50
I mean, I know we talked about this in the office.
32:51
That car hit me the same way.
32:52
I was like, I didn't know this existed.
32:54
I didn't know you could get fours on the floor in 1960s.
32:57
It's like proto muscle car.
32:59
And I'm now redoing the research I did back then that you're right.
33:01
The 348 is indeed what becomes the 409.
33:04
So it's a big block, but it's smaller than a 350, but it's the big block, right?
33:09
And yeah, it's like a proto performance car.
33:10
You would never wake up in the morning and be like, you know what I need is a 60 Chevy.
33:14
You'd never say that, or I wouldn't anyway.
33:16
But if you woke up every morning and walking out to drive, you're kidding.
33:22
If this was parked outside right now, I would be the most stoked.
33:25
I like 63 galaxies.
33:26
And I like obviously the 56 Chrysler and all these other big American cars.
33:29
But this one, I'd park with any of them.
33:32
So anyway, really like it.
33:34
People are going to be like, Randy is not that smart or is a weirdo.
33:39
It's a really, really, really cool car.
33:41
And everything about this one specifically, the interior and the way the motor's finished,
33:46
it's all very period feeling too, right?
33:49
Like it's not modified in any way.
33:50
Color matched wheels, all that stuff.
33:53
And it's just the color is really nice.
33:55
Like the undersides are.
33:57
The car was done, right?
33:59
But it also the spec that it started with is the important part.
34:02
And it's sold for 55 grand.
34:04
And it was a pleasure doing business.
34:08
Says the buyer and seller.
34:09
They're like all stoked.
34:11
Anyway, great BET story.
34:15
Seed your pants pick, Randy.
34:17
That was, it was a pleasure doing business with that car.
34:19
That was a really, really good car.
34:22
I'm going to continue on that trend and pick another American car.
34:28
We're going family haulers next.
34:29
And this is another American car that I didn't know about till I was doing the research on this one.
34:33
Randy, I'll be curious if you know about these, you probably do.
34:36
This is a Ford Country Sedan, which is actually a wagon.
34:42
Country Sedan is a wagon.
34:42
Country Sedan is a wagon.
34:43
It's like a galaxy wagon kind of.
34:46
And I never knew about until today.
34:47
We've never actually.
34:48
But 60 Ford is a little iffy, right?
34:50
Kind of similar to 60 Chev.
34:52
It's not like the most famous one.
34:53
So how does this look?
34:54
You got to turn this around and show it.
34:58
We may arm wrestle over it.
35:02
60 Ford is a weird car.
35:04
We've never listed.
35:05
We've never auctioned one.
35:06
But we have an old post on one which has a great name on the title,
35:10
which is Confusing Name, 1964 Country Sedan.
35:13
When was that written?
35:14
That's probably me being confused.
35:17
It may have been me.
35:18
It may have been me.
35:19
I think that that looks so cool.
35:21
You guys don't like it at all.
35:23
Well, there's a lot of models they made, right?
35:25
It's just like this weirdo one that I picked.
35:26
It's like, are you going to zoom in on 60 because you're forsaking when you're a buyer,
35:31
like a 61 or 62 or 63 or a 58 or 59.
35:35
Picking 60 is a weird choice.
35:38
So you'd see it driving up the road and you'd be like,
35:40
you either really needed to buy a car that year or that's your jam.
35:45
Our game is a little weird because we're forcing you to pick the 60.
35:49
Even if the 61 is better.
35:51
Like, I can't do a 60 CAD because the 62 Caddy exists.
35:58
All these other ones.
35:58
But no, I see where you're going.
36:01
It's like a galaxy wag.
36:02
And it's very similar.
36:04
The galaxies aren't even that great this year,
36:05
but it reminds me a lot of your pick in that it's a car I didn't really know about.
36:10
And it's got some performance to it.
36:11
So this has got 300 horsepower.
36:14
Interesting styling.
36:15
Maybe not pretty, but I think it's awesome.
36:17
I mean, the rear end and the fins are almost identical,
36:21
like a big long flat plane going back.
36:24
It's a very similar design.
36:25
I want an intercoise too.
36:26
I'm looking at one from Mika right now.
36:28
Yeah, you're on the Mika.
36:29
With the Latch body now.
36:30
To me, that's the same kind of thing.
36:32
If I was going to go hop in that after work today and pick up my kids,
36:37
With a teal interior, double teal.
36:40
Anyway, that's my pick.
36:41
I actually found this to be kind of the hardest.
36:43
Like what kind of sedan or I always want to pick a wagon.
36:46
I want an American wagon.
36:47
I'm shopping wags right now.
36:49
I like that choice.
36:51
For my family holler, I feel like I kind of went out there a little bit.
36:55
I'm going with a 60 Citroën DS19.
37:00
Oh, I'm looking at this picture.
37:02
And there's a US market model.
37:04
This is lot number 38261.
37:09
Now what's the color?
37:09
Shout out to our gear store.
37:10
That looks like our shirt.
37:11
I was going to say, I thought you were just doing this as a thinly veiled
37:16
advertisement for our new merch.
37:18
We can also mention that we have an awesome shirt in the merch store for your DS19.
37:22
I saw one of those down in the office today.
37:23
They're really good looking.
37:25
But yeah, I just know all of the overarching talking points of these,
37:29
of the hydronomatic suspension, one huge pump that powered the steering,
37:34
the brakes, basically all of the hydraulics in it, auto-leveling suspension.
37:39
I don't know if you guys know the story of Charles de Gaulle's attempted assassination.
37:44
He had a chaperone convertible, didn't he, version of these?
37:48
But during that assassination attempt he was his wife and I think his son-in-law,
37:52
we're all in a DS19 that took 14 shots to it and no one was injured.
37:58
And two of the tires got shot out.
38:00
But because of the auto-leveling suspension, it could still ride on the road and get out of there.
38:05
And so I figured if it could protect Charles de Gaulle, it could probably protect my family.
38:11
Those are super, super cool.
38:13
I don't know if you or Randy can school me on that.
38:16
I've always struggled a little bit with ID, DS, 19s, 21s, 23s.
38:21
I think the number is the displacement.
38:23
So is that a 1.9 and then 21s or 2.1?
38:26
And then all I know is that the DS is the top of the line trim and ID is the lower trim.
38:33
I also love that Citroen was making this, which was probably one of the, at the time,
38:38
most advanced chassis and body design.
38:42
And the fact that they're making this at the same time is the 2CV,
38:46
which is like just the most bare bones car I think you could ever buy.
38:49
Just a really, really interesting looking car.
38:52
Just an interesting tidbit that I found in some research.
38:55
When this debuted in 55 at the Paris Motor Show, apparently it was so out there that
39:01
five minutes after they debuted the car, they had like 750 orders.
39:05
And by the end of the show, they had 12,000, which never happened before.
39:11
I've always loved them.
39:12
I'm a little scared to own one, but I really would like...
39:15
Well, working on one seems like a nightmare.
39:18
But really just a cool piece of automotive history.
39:21
The seats, they're famous for incredible, incredible seats.
39:25
I don't think I ever need to own one, but I sat in one.
39:28
I'm trying to remember if I got to go for a ride in it or not.
39:30
No, I think I just sat in one static and the seats are good.
39:34
Really, really good.
39:35
And I don't know why the French pulled that off and nailed it and why everybody can't
39:39
just copy it and make it great, but you sit in that car and the owner no doubt will say,
39:43
what do you think about this?
39:46
And then the seats are fantastic.
39:46
Well, and the steering wheel design is so quirky and the auto-centering steer,
39:52
it's just a lot of weird stuff.
39:53
That's single spoke steering wheel?
39:54
Yeah, single spoke.
39:55
It was like maybe 20 years ahead of its time outside of the engine,
39:59
but everything else was so interesting.
40:02
Keeping your family safe from assassination attempts.
40:07
All right, Randy, you ready for a family hauler?
40:09
I'm going to kind of contort the rules here to try to work for me.
40:13
I've got a 60 car that is a genuine lot number.
40:15
It is a 1960 Bentley S2 Moliner four door.
40:20
I prefer the four doors, not the two doors, the expensive stuff.
40:23
I prefer the like base spec.
40:25
This one had an LQ4 GM V8 swap.
40:32
This was actually not that long ago.
40:33
One of my favorite cars ever on BAT, ever, ever is not this one,
40:36
but the sister car that I believe is a 58, which was Alfred Hitchcock.
40:41
Oh, I love that car.
40:42
That's like one of the cars that I so wish I would have been able to buy,
40:46
because that car is just the story and the car and the spec and everything.
40:49
And this is slightly, slightly later as an S2, but it has the same vibe.
40:54
It has, I believe, the same tail lights as the Aston I picked earlier.
41:00
Parts bin, yeah, parts bin stuff.
41:02
But this one needs to sit a little bit lower.
41:04
It's lot number 220551.
41:07
It was sold in Monterey, California.
41:11
The most terrifying part about these are the big Rolls V8 or Bentley V8 or whatever.
41:16
Straight ZX, big straight ZX.
41:19
Anyway, it's terrifying.
41:20
I don't even want to think about it and what it's like to keep one of those in good nick.
41:24
So I'm a weirdo and I actually like swaps and crazy things and having this thing with a reliable,
41:31
awesome, powerful drivetrain and looking this beautiful and rolling down the road is a left-hand
41:36
drive car, gray with red interior, wood everywhere.
41:40
Throw the fam in that.
41:41
Look at these little kick out windows.
41:43
I know, from the rear.
41:44
So did you see that?
41:45
That's so you can smoke or something.
41:47
I don't know what that's for, but proportions on these cars are incredible.
41:51
Speaking of good seats, gigantic dash automatic on the column,
41:56
that is a cruiser, throw all five in and drive around.
42:01
I think the original mode, yeah, here's the original motor.
42:03
There's straight ZX.
42:04
Dude, you're giving me grief.
42:05
Look at, yeah, S1 is straight six.
42:08
The removed Bentley engine.
42:10
There's one, two, three, four spark plugs per side.
42:14
That is a V8 engine, ladies and gentlemen.
42:18
So they must have changed it because the Alfred Hitchcock car is definitely a straight six.
42:21
By the time they got to S2, maybe they kicked a V8 and I thought that was right,
42:26
You stunned me and I backpedaled.
42:28
But it is a V8, which maybe made the swap all that much easier.
42:32
Must have the right dimension for it.
42:34
And to your point, the LQ4 must be a reliability upgrade
42:38
and a driving experience upgrade.
42:42
Certainly reliability and then power.
42:44
We've got to have so much more power than a 1960 Bentley V8,
42:48
but I am going to type Hitchcock into the site.
42:52
So 1960, that other one I was showing you is the Hitchcock.
42:55
The Hitchcock sold for $290.
42:56
Yeah, that costs so sick.
42:58
This one sold for $115, which is like the, it's the every man's.
43:02
I think 60 was first year of V8.
43:04
Because I'm looking at a 59 still straight six,
43:06
and I'm looking at a different 60 S2.
43:09
I like V8s as it turns out.
43:11
So I've chosen a few V8s so far.
43:14
That's their big honking V8 that I think they kept forever.
43:17
That was that big into a Corniche.
43:19
Like 90, 80s or 90s, I think she has area out.
43:22
So anyway, weirdo choice.
43:24
I know I'm driving Aston's and Bentley's cam.
43:26
You're never going to talk to me again.
43:27
You're never going to talk to you.
43:28
I just never thought I'd see the day.
43:30
You're never going to speak with me.
43:31
I got an American car and I got two big old honking Brit cars.
43:34
In some ways, you guys have the opposite of what I would have.
43:38
Well, that's awesome.
43:39
Well, no, I have my country sedan that you love so much Randy.
43:43
Country sedan, I think is fascinating.
43:44
The fact that they called it a country sedan.
43:47
Because in my searching of the internet, you can type squire.
43:50
Because then you get all kinds of country squires and cool stuff,
43:53
but you miss those.
43:55
So you got to back out your search and you just type Ford country.
43:59
And then you get all sorts of weird stuff because you get those as well.
44:02
But then you miss ranch wagons, which is another great.
44:05
They have so much good marketing.
44:06
You got to figure out how to search them all out.
44:09
But country sedan, I knew that from my weirdo search habits that that is a wagon indeed.
44:15
Truck four by four is where we're going next.
44:16
How many we got left?
44:17
Just that and wild card.
44:19
A wild card should be fun because there's so many good race cars from this year.
44:21
Although I've had to leave a lot of cars that I love on the side of the road.
44:24
So we'll have to do honorable mentions.
44:27
I'm going to continue the German theme.
44:28
I'm going to go for a type two single cab transporter.
44:32
I've always loved these.
44:35
Oh, isn't this one?
44:39
I didn't pick that.
44:41
I have the tab open.
44:42
That was right there.
44:43
Let me go ahead and announce your lot number four year, which is 113983 San Dimas, California.
44:51
So for 54 grand in July of 23, take it, Alex.
44:54
This is one of my favorite looking buses we've ever had.
44:57
The color and long term family ownership.
45:00
I've always loved these.
45:01
I think Randy, you probably love them for the same reason, which was these were the support
45:04
vehicles for so many of the racing teams that I loved.
45:07
Sides folded down with spare Porsche, you know, death wish to drive it.
45:12
The front crumples.
45:13
Your knees are your knees.
45:16
I drove a lot of these back in the day, but I like the older style type two with the
45:20
split windshield and everything is my favorite design.
45:22
I like the later ones too, but.
45:24
Everybody loves double cabs, but these actually the proportions on these are cooler.
45:28
They're cooler and they just look so good.
45:30
And I was the like livery guy for a while, but I actually liked that this one's not
45:34
Porsche, a Vasek Pollock livery or anything.
45:36
It's just a simple, great blue color.
45:39
I don't need anything hot rotted.
45:40
I don't, I don't need anything.
45:41
I'm happy with the little one and a half liter.
45:46
What do they have for HP?
45:47
These are one five.
45:48
So yeah, they're probably 36, I bet.
45:50
Yeah, but I love the blue.
45:52
I feel like that was a very classic selection for Volkswagen's that area.
45:55
That blue over just a gray interior is so good.
45:59
I know it's like a little bit cheater, but this is like a very utilitarian vehicle.
46:03
Like it fits the utility part of truck.
46:07
I can't believe I thought you were going to give me shame for this.
46:11
That was my choice.
46:12
Now I'm scrambling back into my silver and bronze.
46:16
And Randy is just peeking at your screen now.
46:18
You might want to look for something else.
46:22
Oh, you've got a second choice, Cam.
46:24
But I was going to say, if I was really sticking to my true love for the family hauler,
46:29
I was going to choose like a 23 window type two bus.
46:33
I had that on the list.
46:34
Were there multi windows by 60?
46:37
There were definitely 15 windows.
46:39
I don't know if there were still 23s or not.
46:41
But still, I mean, they made me come later.
46:46
If I'm correct, I think 59 or 60 was the first year for 23 windows.
46:49
You could get big windows.
46:51
The problem is a lot of them.
46:52
We've listed our conversion.
46:54
It's from the factory.
46:56
Let me show you the certificate.
46:58
All of those weld seams that you're seeing there?
47:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:04
Now here comes Cam to steal my lunch again.
47:07
My lunch money gets stolen twice in one round.
47:10
What are you doing?
47:11
I mean, I feel like this truck 4x4, there really are only a few clear options in my head.
47:17
So I went with a 6088 Series 2 Rover.
47:21
This specific lot number with a fantastic photo in here is 209352.
47:29
That green with the slightly yellow off-white wheels is fantastic.
47:34
But yeah, just like the field for options for 4x4s in this time.
47:38
You had Jeep, Land Rover.
47:41
This was what, first year of FJ40?
47:43
No, there were some early weird ones,
47:45
but 60 was really early for an FJ.
47:47
Nobody was buying FJs.
47:49
And yeah, I just think this is also an interesting, yes.
47:52
Man, great, great, great icon.
47:55
And look at the second photo.
47:56
Oh, dude, how did I miss that?
47:59
Did you see the history?
47:59
Aviation quarter, man.
48:01
That's for you, Alex.
48:02
Man, yeah, 1960 was also the, in just doing some research of the year,
48:07
I don't know if you guys came across, it was the year of Africa.
48:09
And it was the year that 17 countries gained independence.
48:12
It's growing off the shackles of colonialism.
48:16
Huge number of independence.
48:18
Like an old Landy is appropriate for that.
48:20
Well, so Land Rover.
48:22
Sure, they wouldn't want to burn one with an effigy of the queen on it.
48:29
But yeah, I just feel like you started to have so many of these
48:32
that were over there for whether it was colonial infrastructure
48:36
that was happening by the British.
48:38
You had some of these, but only could be owned by the British colonizers
48:43
And now in 1960, it opens up to these just being able to be sold to the general public.
48:47
And so I think that probably led to...
48:50
Are you saying they weren't sold to the general public in like 59?
48:53
In Africa, I'm saying.
48:56
I don't know how that works.
48:57
It seems fascinating.
48:59
It's kind of a power play.
49:00
They ran, I know they kept them running there forever.
49:02
There was a famous story I read in some magazine where somebody saw the,
49:05
so like Jeeps, which are seen as so rugged,
49:08
wouldn't stand up the way these rovers would.
49:11
And like the rover parts are beefier.
49:13
And I remember an anecdote in some magazine about somebody pulled the head off
49:17
and they were doing a valve job with a rock,
49:19
just like like refinishing the valve.
49:21
They were going to throw it back on.
49:22
It was going to run.
49:24
And you know, these things were...
49:25
Maybe there probably still are.
49:26
It's like these in Mercedes diesel still go in various places in the world.
49:29
Meanwhile, Mr. Toyota is like stroking his beard,
49:33
watching all of this play out and being like,
49:35
I'm going to go ahead and have a few ideas on the matter.
49:38
Call me in 20 years.
49:40
100-point build quality or whatever you're talking about.
49:44
It was the chassis of these that had all the issues
49:46
because the bodies were aluminum, right?
49:48
And I think the chassis were steel.
49:50
It had chassis rust issues.
49:51
I mean, they have all sorts of issues.
49:52
Did you see the chassis?
49:53
They covered a lot of them.
49:54
This thing is so sick.
49:55
Yeah, the galvanized chassis is a big upgrade and a big swap.
49:57
We see that a lot in a lot of PET cars.
49:59
You got to look for chassis rust issues in those, in the unrestored ones.
50:03
But a nice restoration.
50:04
They, I mean, there's been so many of these and so many people have had hands on them.
50:08
Like everything is solved, right?
50:09
Every melody can be solved and there's parts all over the place.
50:14
But a really early, pure 1960 model just has something about it, doesn't it?
50:19
And I do feel like you could make this analogy to a lot of different cars,
50:22
but this one that really strikes for me is I really think of this era Land Rover as
50:27
kind of like the Rolex Submariner, where it's a thing in an item now that is
50:33
coveted by collectors and is kind of this luxury thing.
50:36
If you look at modern Defender 90s and Defender 110s, they're very expensive,
50:44
And if you look at Rolex Submariners, they're luxury collector items now.
50:49
But back in the day, this thing was a tool and designed to be just beat up and taken
50:54
everywhere and torn down, fixed up.
50:57
And I just, I love that ethos about any sort of product that is designed with an intention,
51:03
not as a commodity.
51:05
And I think these are now obviously collector's items.
51:07
But I think a lot of those collectors still look at them through the lens of that.
51:12
They are intended for.
51:13
It's built to be a tool.
51:16
You guys are swiping wide swaths of the goodness of 1960 for truck.
51:22
I'm such an American truck guy, but I actually don't love many American trucks.
51:26
It's not a good model.
51:27
But I do love Willie's Stigianwagens.
51:30
How was the second pick for me?
51:31
So this is a great one, sort of a mustard yellow with white steels and really well done by
51:40
Was the seller on this one out of Eagle, Idaho.
51:44
So for 30 grand, just man.
51:49
These things are also very rudimentary, especially from 60.
51:52
I like them with like a 283 Chevy swap in them.
51:59
These come with a 134.
52:01
They've got the crappy F-head, right?
52:03
Hurricane 4 and M3 speed manual.
52:06
That'll get you to the general store and back, but I'm maybe looking for actually
52:10
toe in the little catamaran or something like this thing.
52:13
And then you've got the life you're living.
52:17
What's the lot number on that?
52:18
So lot number is critical and it is 113859.
52:23
This thing has presence really well presented by the seller, obviously,
52:26
which helps it a whole bunch.
52:27
That's some cool features that, yeah, that little engine's not one of my favorites,
52:30
but yeah, for 30K, if you look at the underside of this, it's all restored.
52:33
Like that was a buy and I would very gladly have this parked outside today
52:38
and you go hop in it and drive out of here.
52:40
Man, absolutely good looking.
52:42
So, man, those are, talk about three picks.
52:44
I don't know how truck crazy you guys are about that category,
52:47
but of all the things we've talked about, those three actual lot numbers we just said
52:50
are like three huge winners.
52:53
Like everybody's thumbs up on all three of those, which is really kind of cool to see.
52:57
And thanks for leaving this for me.
52:59
I thought when you said, watch out, I'm stealing it.
53:01
I thought you were taking this.
53:03
I was looking at this one though for a long time.
53:06
It's a solid, solid pick.
53:07
It's extremely good looking.
53:10
Is this overhead valve or is this still?
53:12
They made a little Hurricane 4.
53:14
This is what was in all the little Willy's CJ.
53:16
If it was in the, yeah, okay.
53:17
I don't know if that's overhead valve or if it's still flathead, F-head,
53:21
but that's what's in my dad's 37 Willy's Coupe is the engine that was in all the World War II jeeps,
53:25
It's the little, you know, 100, I think it's the same motor.
53:28
No, it's the little 4.
53:30
That's what was in the, in the cars.
53:32
The Daulis is a V6.
53:36
No, this is the little 4.
53:37
It was in all the Army Jeeps.
53:38
Yeah, this has a high valve cover on it.
53:40
Yeah, that's an overhead valve.
53:41
But it might be the conversion of the same engine that had flathead on it.
53:49
Okay, so I have a lot of choices here.
53:51
Here's a question for you.
53:53
I'm not going to pick this and one of you guys can if you want,
53:55
but does the Abarth Carrera count as a 356?
53:58
Or is that different enough that that's different?
54:00
You're going to pick a 356B and an Abarth.
54:02
No, I'm going to pick something different,
54:03
but I am curious about your ruling on that.
54:06
I would allow that.
54:07
I mean, it plays your cards that you're like super deep Porsche world,
54:12
but it's the Revs Institute card.
54:13
I'm like, okay, we're going to go down to far a few for me.
54:17
That's not what I'm picking.
54:21
So that's an alloy body to competition spec 250 short wheelbase that
54:28
won some pretty big things.
54:29
It was seventh overall at Le Mans in 1960.
54:34
I love short wheelbases.
54:35
I didn't used to like them.
54:36
I used to be kind of GTO over short wheelbase,
54:38
and now I'm full short wheelbase train.
54:42
because they have that Goodwood class that's just 250s,
54:45
and it's mainly short wheelbases,
54:47
and then a couple of GTOs and usually one or two LMs.
54:50
That guy spun the LM and hit it a couple of years ago.
54:52
I freaking love these cars.
54:54
Randy and I had the privilege of going to Bruce Myers place
54:57
and seeing he's got a very early silver car
55:00
that was maybe Tour de France winner or something.
55:02
That silver car, he's got that one.
55:03
That was a Le Mans too.
55:04
This is a Le Mans too.
55:05
It's class, I think, right?
55:07
60 is either the first year or very close.
55:09
They may be late 59,
55:11
but this is I freaking love these cars.
55:13
And this specific one,
55:14
which sold for $13 million 10 years ago,
55:17
is an incredible car.
55:19
I love the livery on it.
55:21
It looks really, really cool.
55:22
That's a very sound choice.
55:25
It shouldn't even be wildcard.
55:26
I mean, that could be for,
55:27
I mean, sports car.
55:28
What did you pick for sports car?
55:29
I mean, this is like-
55:29
You picked a lowly 356.
55:31
And then for wildcard, you just went bananas.
55:33
But that's because that's a specific car I wanted,
55:35
and I knew somebody would take 356.
55:36
That was a little bit of a strategy,
55:39
But this is also like-
55:40
Don't pick the GTL then.
55:42
You need to pick that.
55:42
Yeah, I am picking this.
55:43
And this allows me to lean in.
55:45
because I would actually probably,
55:47
not that I have $13 million,
55:48
but I would want a street,
55:51
since I already have my 356 and daily drive,
55:53
this allows me to take full alloy-bodied comp car.
55:56
I think a lot of them were right-hand drive.
55:58
I believe this one is left-hand drive.
55:59
But anyway, chassis number 1759 GT.
56:03
No, it's sold on BET.
56:04
We have yet to have a 250 short wheelbase, legit.
56:06
We've had a re-body 250 short wheelbase.
56:08
That's not a real car.
56:10
But built on a real chassis.
56:14
somebody wants to pay our fees instead of millions in fees.
56:18
Yeah, there were a few fees.
56:19
Yes, there were a few feesies.
56:21
Few fees on this car.
56:22
At the big auctions.
56:24
you can sell that car all day.
56:25
It'll be $1 million.
56:26
You wish it was only a billion dollars to have any fun.
56:29
You can sell that car all day along on BET for 99 bucks.
56:35
GTO engineering restored that one.
56:39
I feel like my wildcards
56:40
may be going to be a bit moreing
56:41
compared to your guys' wildcard.
56:43
But if I was going to go out tomorrow
56:45
and find the 1960 model year vehicle
56:48
that I could, you know,
56:48
reasonably purchase in my current state,
56:52
that is what I wanted to select for my wildcard.
56:54
So I went with a 1960 Mercedes-Benz 220 SE four speed.
57:00
So fintail first here, the fin.
57:03
I don't know if you could get a floor shift at this time.
57:07
Well, you could certainly get a manual.
57:09
You should get a column shift.
57:10
This is a column shift.
57:11
I don't know if you could special order a floor shift,
57:13
but they were racing column shift in a day.
57:15
Yeah, it was awesome.
57:18
This car is also, to my...
57:20
This is the one the owner appeared correct built,
57:22
and then it looks...
57:24
You know the car with the jumball on the door.
57:26
I didn't know that the owner...
57:28
Oh, that car was great.
57:31
What's the lot number on that, Kim?
57:32
Lot number on this is lot 78555.
57:37
If we could go a bit later,
57:39
I would have chosen Randy's was a 67.
57:43
Because I don't think it's 230s came out until 65.
57:46
230s was not an advantage.
57:48
They were desperate at the end of the run.
57:49
They were just trying to get that thing over the goal line
57:51
to get to the next cars.
57:52
But this is right out of the gates.
57:54
I mean, a 60 fintail,
57:55
that was pretty cutting edge design at that moment.
57:58
And they were kind of late on tail fins,
58:01
but they integrated them in to some controversy.
58:03
But the rally cars of that were really inspiring.
58:06
Well, and that's what I read a little bit into kind of the design,
58:09
eat those behind this,
58:10
and how there was like a big argument at Mercedes of,
58:13
some people wanted the big flares and big fins,
58:16
and you know, compete with the American stuff.
58:18
And some people were like no fins at all.
58:19
And so the designer was like, okay,
58:20
we're going to do a nice easy,
58:23
like digestible, a very moderate fin.
58:26
Just a fantastic car.
58:28
I could probably go out and find one of these if I wanted to.
58:31
I've been looking for you ever since you said you wanted one.
58:33
There's a white one local.
58:35
Have you seen it now?
58:36
It's Craig's or it's on someplace sketchy.
58:40
But they still want like 17 five for it.
58:42
And it's not that good.
58:43
And you're just like, man.
58:46
It's a manual, but I think it's column.
58:49
Oh, see, four shift is kind of a deal breaker for me.
58:53
I actually think column is super cool.
58:56
Like if I get an early Bronco,
58:57
I kind of want to call them shift three speed.
58:59
Well, that I could do.
59:00
I just feel like you don't get the full sport driving experience.
59:06
The crazy part is they race that stuff.
59:08
But yeah, it's different now.
59:10
If four shift is cool too, that bike or add.
59:13
That's really cool.
59:14
Well, that's like two 30 with four shift would be my ideal.
59:17
But in your opinion, is fuel injected or carbureted better on these?
59:21
Carbureted, you can modify a little easier as like a home mechanic.
59:25
Getting into modifying for power, Ben's early fuel injection is like,
59:29
I think that's beyond my pay grade.
59:31
I'm scared of that.
59:33
But my dad has injection on his coupe, you know,
59:35
but I had dual carbs on mine.
59:37
I threw two weathers on it and tried to get more go out of it.
59:40
There's different ways to do it.
59:41
It's kind of how skilled you are.
59:42
And what kind of tune it's in.
59:44
But a bunch of the early Ben's has had injection, as you know.
59:49
You know, it's just if you're trying to get more out of it,
59:52
that's where my brain went.
59:54
And I had more confidence in myself being able to milk some extra HP out of carbs
59:59
than I did out of fuel injection.
00:00
And just diagnosing on the side of the road.
00:03
It's got much more of a shot at figuring out what's going on.
00:07
Actuators and different stuff that's weird in the fuel injection system.
00:11
Whereas Carved, you hope with a Weber, somebody around you is going to have
00:14
the parts needed to hit it with a hammer and get it going.
00:17
So anyway, that was some of my logic.
00:18
But they're both very cool.
00:20
I mean, obviously, all the SLs are all fuel injected and are amazing.
00:23
I mean, that's why I like the MFI.
00:24
It looks like an SL.
00:26
In this body, I want a 300 SE.
00:28
Like I'd love to have the big boy one that has the SL motor in it.
00:30
And that's injected.
00:31
And I would love it.
00:32
But that's a great choice, dude.
00:34
And you want full rally spec like this.
00:35
This is a wobb presentation.
00:37
Two tone and the harnesses and no bumpers and all that.
00:40
This is right at my alley.
00:43
But the stock steering wheel and everything, which I love.
00:46
It's really, really good.
00:47
It's a really good presentation.
00:48
That's the weird, kind of low pivot, semi-independent rear suspension.
00:53
Where like it kind of bends in the middle.
00:56
And I never totally figured out how that all is supposed to work.
01:01
Like there's a weird, there's a center spring that's lateral.
01:05
And then it, but it's like a 60-40 pivot.
01:08
And it's like none of it, none of it.
01:10
It ends up being like a swing axle.
01:12
And then that's dangerous, right?
01:14
It's also just the mechanics of how it actually works.
01:17
I was like, wait, why?
01:19
It's attached there.
01:20
It's pivoted there.
01:21
It's like, it's a, it's a super weird deal.
01:23
We had a Mars out and then swapped in a Pagoda axle.
01:26
And so I had it like out in our hands and I was like,
01:29
this is the weirdest axle.
01:30
This doesn't make sense.
01:35
I remember that listing very distinctly.
01:39
It's all coming back as I'm looking at it.
01:41
Great presentation.
01:43
Wob has changed a lot the way and he still does a great job of presenting,
01:46
but this was how all the early Wob listings,
01:48
when he was like kind of one of our only power sellers.
01:52
All right, Randy, round us out.
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Dunzo, easy wild card, easy wild card.
01:57
We've sold a number of Riva's, Riva wooden boats.
02:01
We actually did sell a 1960 of the big boy twin engine, extreme set.
02:08
Look at these cool engines.
02:11
That makes me so happy.
02:12
There's two keys next to each other and you put like the same key chain on both.
02:15
And then now you fire them independently.
02:19
Anyway, this one didn't meet reserve.
02:21
It was sold out of Europe 215.585.
02:24
There's some other non 1960 models that are that are cool.
02:27
There's the small one, the Florida, which is kind of more attainable.
02:30
And I may try to get one of those someday.
02:33
But there's also the dual engine, big granddaddy Tritone Tritone.
02:38
I don't know how the Italians say that.
02:40
But that's what you want.
02:40
You want the 26 footer, right?
02:42
I mean, the dream is the big one with two Chryslers in it.
02:45
If I could have two Chryslers driving one of those, that would be my absolute dream.
02:49
I'm like Tahoe on this thing.
02:51
Tahoe is an epicenter of Riva activity.
02:54
And I just think they are absolutely incredible.
02:57
Perfect play for a wild card choice.
03:02
It's also all propeller and wood.
03:05
You've been talking Riva for a while.
03:06
Man, I forgot about the upholstery in this one.
03:09
Yeah, but yeah, there's some issues of why the bidding stopped where it did.
03:12
But this one's a 53 and a little bit earlier.
03:16
And it's the one that's sold for 725 grand from Scott Ailes.
03:19
Shout out Scott Ailes seller.
03:22
That's the actual dream-dream.
03:23
And if I could somehow massage the title of that one to say 1960.
03:27
But that's the same model.
03:28
That's the big triple cocktail.
03:30
Yeah, twin engine on that.
03:30
Comes down to presentation and location and...
03:35
Oh, because if that one's a single huge scripts marinized V12.
03:39
That is a script's 12.
03:40
I mean, and 543 and then 67 years later, you got to think about where was V8 technology in 53?
03:46
There wasn't a small blockchef.
03:48
There was hardly a Hemi in 53.
03:53
And there was CAD maybe.
03:55
I mean, V8s weren't a thing.
03:59
I mean, those were...
03:59
That was fresh stuff, right?
04:01
And this is already...
04:02
This V12 would have been a great choice.
04:04
Like dual V12s would have been insane, but nobody did it until later, I believe.
04:08
So 53 is early for that.
04:09
But 60, you're squarely in the V8 era.
04:12
And so twin V8s are what you need.
04:14
And I would love to have one of those.
04:16
And if somebody out there has one, they want to sell me for pennies
04:18
on the euro, I am available.
04:22
So did this style of boat...
04:24
Did it start with Christcraft in America?
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And did this kind of like transfer over to European boatings?
04:30
I mean, there was European influence early, just as early.
04:33
I mean, they get credit as much as Americans do, right?
04:36
But the barrelback look and the way they put the hole together and different sorts of things.
04:41
I know who the experts are.
04:42
I'm not the expert.
04:43
But I mean, there were certainly...
04:44
I don't think Americans can come and say like,
04:46
we thought of the wooden boat, even though that's a very rich history of Christcraft
04:51
and hacker and all these cool makes.
04:54
Garwood is terrific.
04:56
But Riva's always just sort of had a halo because it's like Ferrari, right?
04:59
Like all the movie stars drove around and I'm in pictures and they were running around
05:02
Monaco and whatever else.
05:05
Just in the best way possible.
05:07
Cary Grant, you know what I mean?
05:09
And some of my favorite movies ripping around in these.
05:11
So anyway, that is an amazing dream item for me.
05:13
And that is my wildcard.
05:17
I'll recap this really quick.
05:18
Then we can do a couple honorable mentions because I had to leave some cars that I really loved
05:24
Sports car, 356B in Condor yellow with a GT fuel tank, daily driver, 300 SL Roadster,
05:30
family hauler, Ford Country sedan, which is actually a wagon, truck four by four,
05:35
a single cab, Volkswagen transporter, wildcard, a 250 short wheelbase Ferrari,
05:40
specifically the chassis that finished seventh overall Le Mans in 1960.
05:45
Cam, sports car, Abarth 750 Zagato, daily, an SZ Alpha, Giulietta, family hauler,
05:53
DS19 Citroën, truck four by four, 88 series two Rover, a very good pick.
05:59
I really liked that one.
05:59
And wildcard or Mercedes, 220 SE four speed rally tribute.
06:04
For Randy, sports car, DB four, series two Aston.
06:10
You went totally off and picked the Ferrari Le Mans winner or whatever you picked.
06:16
So I want to upgrade mine to DB four GT, DB four GT.
06:19
I picked a DB four because it was on the site, but I can't compete with you if I don't pick
06:25
Then I'm upgrading my Abarth to a GT.
06:28
DB four slash aspirational DB four GT.
06:33
I hadn't listed your pick yet.
06:35
Sports car, Aston Martin, DB four GT.
06:39
I actually love this pick and I missed it and I'm bummed.
06:42
The Chevrolet, the Chev Bel Air four speed 348, right?
06:48
Family hauler Bentley S2 Moliner with a modern V8.
06:53
That's people are going to get me grief.
06:54
That's where I lose.
06:55
That's where I like that was the air ball free throw right there.
06:58
I think people are going to crucify my land.
07:00
I think they're going to crucify me for that one.
07:02
Well, you're bringing it back with a very photogenic Willy's station wagon for your
07:07
truck four by four.
07:07
That is a really good looking vehicle and wild card may also win the thing for you.
07:12
26 foot Riva Tritone wooden boat in the med with Keri Grant and Grace Kelly.
07:20
Couple honorable mentions that I got to throw out there.
07:22
Randy's going to roll his eyes at this one.
07:23
But I loved this car.
07:25
This was a XK150 listed by Hyman.
07:28
What are you talking about?
07:30
Only because I didn't pick it.
07:31
This specific car, black, black wires, painted black wires with Lucas yellow driving
07:35
lamps and a Wabasto sunroof.
07:37
This was built at the same time when they were building E-types.
07:40
And I would actually rather have this than an early E-type.
07:43
Do you and I both love 150 FHCs?
07:46
Man, look at that car.
07:48
I think about this car all the time.
07:49
It's primitive, right?
07:50
I mean, it's primitive.
07:51
Look at that with that back three quarters though.
07:53
It's really neat looking.
07:54
They're almost like hot roddy or something.
07:56
I don't know what it is about those late fixed heads.
07:58
And then I can't believe you don't care about these, Randy, but I didn't take this.
08:02
I was going to say, I can't believe a 300 F didn't get picked.
08:05
It doesn't fit anywhere kind of as part of the problem.
08:08
It's not a sports car.
08:09
It's not a family hauler.
08:11
It's not a sports car.
08:13
You could use it as a daily.
08:15
But I needed the 300 SL and I needed the 356.
08:21
I was actually quite surprised when I was scrolling 1960 how many
08:25
Mopar product, Chrysler, Dodge, DeSoto, different stuff of that design.
08:31
We've listed a lot of them.
08:33
We've listed convertibles.
08:34
We've listed sedans.
08:35
There were way more than I thought.
08:37
Like I think it'd be all Chevy's and Ford's or whatever,
08:39
but there's a ton of Caddies and a ton of Chryslers.
08:42
I was actually really excited.
08:43
I thought for sure you were going to.
08:45
I was just, again, something awkward about this year where it didn't quite fit.
08:49
I mean, I would love one of those in IRL.
08:52
That's not your ideal year though.
08:53
You're 61, which is same exact body, but with the angled headlights.
08:56
The 300 G is what I like.
08:58
When you dream of a particular year, it's hard to be like,
09:02
okay, I'll get the 60, right?
09:04
I was the same way on a couple of cars.
09:05
I was kind of like, man, if 62 is the dream, you can't just buy this sort of.
09:10
You know what I mean?
09:10
This was a very nice one and it was a cool car, but yeah.
09:13
I couldn't make it fit.
09:16
Keeping that letter series market hot.
09:19
The 50 cents are soft, but looking car.
09:21
That one is expensive.
09:22
That's when the Finns went bananas.
09:24
And these have the pivoting seats and four-place seatings.
09:27
That's why it's not really a family hauler.
09:28
It's got bucket seats in the back.
09:31
Anyway, love those cars with the cross-ramps.
09:34
It's hard to deny that.
09:36
Any other honorable mentions for you guys?
09:38
Things that you had thought about picking that were pretty rad that you hated to leave behind?
09:44
I mean, an MG phase.
09:45
I love that center march hall too and the grill.
09:48
And the grill, the modded grill and wires and no bumpers.
09:53
There was a car that ran a California Mille once, which I always thought was really cool,
09:56
that they led an MGA into the Cal Mille, the Fairmont Martin Swig Cal Mille,
10:01
when I was maybe college or a little bit later.
10:04
I still remember it to this day because the wheel offset was just right on the wires
10:07
and no bumpers and cleaned up and green and low windshield.
10:12
This one's pretty racy.
10:13
This modified 1600 Roadster, but...
10:16
Do you care about that?
10:18
Twin cam is cool, but it's heavier and they have problems.
10:21
The one I always like is the deluxe, which is all the twin cam running gear,
10:25
but with a pushrod and the Dunlop wheels, but still has the pushrod motor,
10:31
which you can get all the power out of.
10:32
You build up the motor.
10:33
People can build those up or put a Judson on it or do whatever you got to do.
10:37
So I've been shopping these two to tell you, I'm on the scent.
10:41
I helped a buddy get an MGA and got my hands on it to wrench on it a little bit
10:44
and drive it around and they are just so neat.
10:46
I really, really like them and they look so good for such a cheap car.
10:49
I like fixed ends too.
10:52
They look like a 120 fixed end.
10:54
My buddy Jeff Glenn and his dad did one of those and sold it, I think, on VAT.
10:59
Those are cool too, but this is, it's so sleek and cool.
11:02
You want it with no windshield and all that.
11:04
That's what I want.
11:05
I actually want the cut down windshield for street.
11:07
This is full race, like almost no windshield bug guard, but I want like a 60% Plexi windshield.
11:14
That's a cool look.
11:16
I like those a lot.
11:18
So I've been dreaming on that for 60, but not too many others that got away that I'm too
11:21
worried about other than that.
11:22
Sprint Speciale or just a Sprint.
11:26
I mean, he picked an SV and I just think a normal, a normal Giulietta was very much in
11:33
I'm also a Giulietta TI guy, so it was almost too like normie for me for this game.
11:41
We put five, four people in that one once.
11:44
I mean, an Italian family definitely would have been hauled.
11:47
I don't know if you ever saw it, but the Michael Mann Ferrari movie about the last
11:51
running of the Miele when the Ferrari crashed and everyone got wiped out.
11:54
Him and his wife are constantly being chauffeured around in Giulia sedans.
11:58
That's the car that everyone's riding around in.
12:01
So 60 would have been like my one downstairs, and those are cool.
12:04
And we've sold a few, but-
12:07
Mine's actually, I think it's produced in 60, but it's technically a 61, but like Italian
12:12
I mean, who knows what it is.
12:14
But I think we rode to Alfa Storico and they told us the production date.
12:18
I think it was late 60, but it's a 61 car.
12:21
Have either of you owned a car from 1960?
12:23
That's the closest for me.
12:24
I had a 61 Beetle, but not.
12:28
I thought about going Beetle for some answers on this one.
12:31
A stock beautiful gray color 60 Beetle is really hard to beat.
12:36
60 is a really good gear.
12:37
That's my other honorable mention is I've been Jones and also for just a stocked out
12:42
Beetle is really cool shape.
12:44
Let someone else do all the work and just have it and just stare at it and cheers it.
12:49
I really would love it.
12:50
And you said thumbs down on Coupe de Ville.
12:52
No, your thumbs down on Cali is from 1960.
12:54
Well, 59 is super iconic.
12:55
60 kind of keeps the big front of the 59.
12:58
It's almost the same in my view.
13:00
And then lesser fin, which I actually think is good news.
13:03
I'm not into 59 fin, but they got so good.
13:07
But both, again, both before and after that, I love a 56 CAD.
13:11
And I love a 62 CAD.
13:16
But you see that look at the fenders.
13:18
And the fender and the double headlights and the whole thing.
13:20
The front's basically a 59 to me.
13:22
And the 59 is not the car for me.
13:24
It's a great car, but I don't need it.
13:25
It was like peak peak huge CAD.
13:28
Add three or subtract three years.
13:30
And I'm in my sweet spot.
13:34
Did you think about it?
13:37
The big one, the Fairlane one, not because the Falcon hadn't quite come yet.
13:40
Right? Was it a 61?
13:41
There's a Falcon came out and they're so sad.
13:44
But it's the little sedan deal.
13:46
The headlights are so sad.
13:49
It looks like the Adobe car.
13:51
Did you ever see that on Saturday Night Live?
13:53
The car made out of clay.
13:55
You'd like run into something and then you get out and like reform.
13:59
The front of the 60 Falcon has always looked like the Adobe car to me.
14:03
And it's like kind of melting in the sun.
14:07
Again, it's so hard to get your mind over the fact that it's 63,
14:10
4 or 5 Falcon is so wonderful.
14:12
That's the problem.
14:15
But if it was the first day in 1960 and 1963 hadn't yet transpired.
14:20
Maybe it'd be cool.
14:21
But now I'm poisoned with comparison of all this other stuff.
14:24
First year of the Corvair, which was an interesting for Chevrolet.
14:29
That's actually a strong.
14:31
That would be the easiest choice if you pull first.
14:33
Daily driver would be cool for that.
14:36
The little mini cars.
14:38
Somebody already mentioned Bug Eye and 2CV, but also the mini.
14:42
Actually, my mini is 60.
14:45
The white one that Chickasad bought.
14:50
The only Japanese car I had was this.
14:52
We've listed quite a few of these, the little Datsun pickup trucks.
14:54
I thought about that as a pickup truck auction.
14:56
That was my only Japanese car on this whole list.
14:58
Those are kind of cool.
14:59
Malibu listed a couple of those.
15:01
Yeah, they're cool.
15:02
The deep cuts call with that.
15:04
It looks like a mini in the front.
15:05
It struck me as a little bit toy-like.
15:07
You know what I mean?
15:08
I mean, I guess you could use it as a truck,
15:09
but it's like the little Morris minor pickup trucks.
15:12
It's a toy kind of.
15:15
Fiberglass monocoque.
15:16
I thought you were going to pick that.
15:17
I thought about it.
15:18
I thought you were going to do that instead of Porsche.
15:20
There were like six elites that finished Le Mans that year.
15:22
The thing about elites out there running with test arousas is so sick.
15:27
I also thought AC Aseca might pop up on your list.
15:30
I had that as a tab, but then I went DB and so I pulled it.
15:32
The problem is that somebody was going to steal DB,
15:35
and then I was going to do AC Aseca.
15:35
It's too many sports cars.
15:37
I wanted like eight sports cars from this year.
15:41
Oh, hey, you have owned a 60.
15:44
2015 sold on BET for 20 grand.
15:46
Look at that nice short essentials column.
15:51
That's a cool lot number.
15:55
Lot number 214 and blew the motor in that thing.
16:00
Merged cylinders two or three.
16:01
Hey, there's your buddy from Slo.
16:04
That's Juergens putting the new engine in that he built for me in that car.
16:09
He's still wearing that same shop shirt.
16:10
British sports cars.
16:13
That was a cool car.
16:14
And let's look at that list of parts I had to buy that are in that listing.
16:20
Whoa, that's a long scroll.
16:21
Oh boy, I lost my shirt on that car, but that was a fun mini.
16:26
This was possibly going to be my wild card just depending on the way the
16:30
road starts moving.
16:32
This might be handy to have in the garage.
16:33
One of those came to the Houston of that last weekend.
16:39
Yeah, it's either that or something very similar to it.
16:41
But a British wheeled armored vehicle.
16:44
Sorry for those listening if you're still tuning in at this point.
16:47
Daimler ferret lot number 163396.
16:50
Yeah, that's a cool.
16:51
Urban assault vehicle ready to go.
16:55
Did you enjoy yourself?
16:57
What a great year for a bunch of the different contexts
16:59
we laid down, but then also so many choices.
17:02
Like I want a bunch that you guys picked and I want a bunch more slots to select for.
17:08
Yeah, I feel like this is a year that we could do this episode three times.
17:12
Like really interesting options every time we choose.
17:15
Every time I would want that VW single cab.
17:17
Every time we do it.
17:18
I want to change the rules so I can just have the starting grid from LaMah and one of them
17:22
can be my truck and one can be my family.
17:25
This was a fun year.
17:26
It's good to challenge ourselves and do stuff.
17:27
I like the ones where it's an in-between year because you got to work a little bit harder.
17:32
We started with a lot of like 1963s and 1997s years where it's like, well, no duh.
17:37
Like we all know what we want.
17:39
And there is something fun about everyone competing for a couple top picks,
17:41
but it's fun to also not have overlap.
17:43
We had more than I thought.
17:45
Well, thank you, gents.
17:46
Thanks everyone for listening.
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As always, please feel free to send feedback to podcast at bringitrailer.com and we will
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catch you next time.