The hosts dive into the evolving landscape of electric vehicles, discussing industry challenges like the UK’s ZEV mandate and government policies impacting EV adoption. They explore upcoming electric sports cars, including the Longbow Roadster, Alpine A110 EV, and Caterham Project V, and debate the merits of mid-sized EV SUVs like the Volvo EX60 and BMW iX3. The conversation also touches on the cultural impact of car ownership, the influence of the 'Manosphere' on automotive trends, and Aston Martin’s Formula 1 efforts. Personal anecdotes about classic cars, motorcycles, and EV home charging round out a thoughtful, wide-ranging automotive chat.
In the latest episode of the Autocar podcast, My Week In Cars, Steve Cropley and Matt Prior talk about the trustworthy Land Rover Freelander 2, the potential effect of The Manosphere on luxury car appeal, Aston Martin's F1 troubles, whether Steve would buy a Tesla, and whether the zero emissions vehicle mandate needs an urgent rethink.
"...Jeremy Clarkson's comments on where the cars lose their soul because they're electric. Surely this depends on the type of car and the engine in the first place."
Electric cars run on batteries and electric motors instead of gas engines. They are cleaner for the environment and can be quieter to drive.
Electric cars are vehicles powered by electric motors using energy stored in batteries, rather than traditional internal combustion engines. They produce zero tailpipe emissions and often have instant torque delivery.
"In my experience, my old Golf 7.5 1.4 TSI would have been no worse for being electric"
The Volkswagen Golf 7.5 1.4 TSI is a popular small car with a turbocharged petrol engine that gives good power and fuel economy. It's a common car in Europe and known for being practical.
The Volkswagen Golf 7.5 1.4 TSI is a mid-generation update of the Golf Mk7, featuring a 1.4-liter turbocharged stratified injection petrol engine. It is known for its balance of efficiency and performance in a compact hatchback format.
The Audi A2 is a small car that was made to be very light and fuel-efficient. It used special materials to save weight and was designed to use less fuel.
The Audi A2 is a compact, lightweight hatchback produced in the early 2000s, known for its aluminum space frame construction and efficient design. It was ahead of its time in terms of fuel economy and lightweight engineering.
"However, the character and soul of my old Porsche 996 Carrera 4S with a Dansk exhaust"
The Porsche 911 (996) Carrera 4S is a sports car known for its powerful engine and all-wheel drive. It was the first 911 to have a water-cooled engine, making it different from older models.
The Porsche 911 (996) Carrera 4S is a generation of the iconic 911 sports car produced from 1997 to 2006, with the 996 being the first water-cooled 911. The Carrera 4S variant features all-wheel drive and a wider body, offering enhanced handling and performance.
"This is why we're seeing high performance manufacturers continue to develop internal combustion engines."
An internal combustion engine is the kind of engine that burns petrol or diesel inside the car to make it move.
An internal combustion engine (ICE) is an engine that generates power by burning fuel inside the engine's cylinders. It is the traditional engine type used in most cars before electric vehicles.
"You know, we remember when, you know, an electric car was a fairly ordinary Nissan Leaf, not long ago, not very much range, bit of a, you know, colorless car."
The Nissan Leaf is an electric car that was one of the first to be sold to many people. It can drive on electricity instead of petrol.
The Nissan Leaf is one of the first mass-market electric vehicles, introduced in 2010. Early models had limited range and modest performance, but it helped popularize electric cars.
"And then along came stuff like the, you know, the Renault 5 and, you know, even the,"
The Renault 5 is a small car that was popular many years ago and now has a new electric version that runs on batteries.
The Renault 5 is a small hatchback originally produced in the 1970s and 80s, recently revived as an electric vehicle. The new electric Renault 5 aims to combine classic styling with modern EV technology.
"It was somebody at McLaren applied tech or whatever that company is now called because it's independent, isn't it?"
McLaren is a company that makes very fast sports cars and race cars.
McLaren is a British automotive manufacturer known for producing high-performance sports cars and Formula 1 racing cars. They are also involved in developing advanced automotive technologies.
"And somebody stood up and said how pleasing it was to, you know, that there's now an electric Alfa Romeo and it's not a bad car. You know, he said it's not everybody's absolute cup of tea, but it's, you know, steers nicely, behaves fundamentally like an Alfa."
Alfa Romeo is a car company from Italy that makes cars that are fun to drive. They now have an electric car that still feels like a typical Alfa Romeo.
Alfa Romeo is an Italian automotive brand known for producing sporty and stylish cars with a focus on driving dynamics. The mention refers to their electric vehicle, highlighting that it maintains the brand's characteristic driving feel despite being electric.
"The big problem is we've got this thing called the ZEV mandate, which requires manufacturers to sell more cars than they are comfortable than there is a natural demand for."
The ZEV mandate is a rule that says car makers have to sell a certain number of cars that don't pollute, like electric cars, even if not many people want to buy them yet.
The ZEV (Zero Emission Vehicle) mandate is a regulatory requirement that compels car manufacturers to sell a certain percentage of zero-emission vehicles, such as electric cars, even if consumer demand is not naturally high. This policy aims to reduce pollution and accelerate the adoption of cleaner vehicles.
"his killer fact, as far as I was concerned, was that last year, manufacturers spent 11 grand per car in the way of subsidies. I guess that means, you know, giveaways and extra advertising and just deals."
Subsidies are money or help given to car companies to make it easier or cheaper for them to sell certain types of cars, like electric ones.
Subsidies in the automotive context refer to financial support or incentives provided to manufacturers to encourage the production or sale of certain vehicles, often electric or low-emission models. These can include direct payments, tax breaks, or marketing support.
"Effectively, is it the 12,000 pound per car for falling short of your, whatever it was last year, 28 or something percent of zero emissions."
Zero emissions means a car doesn't pollute the air when it runs. Electric cars are examples because they don’t produce smoke or gases from the exhaust.
Zero emissions refers to vehicles or technologies that do not produce any tailpipe pollutants such as carbon dioxide or nitrogen oxides, typically associated with electric vehicles or hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
"But I feel frustrated because to have gone from nothing in 2012 to 25% of EV sales in 2025 is a major achievement. And yet, because we're not up to 20, 28% on whatever it is, it's seen as a failure."
EV sales means how many electric cars are sold. It shows how popular electric cars are becoming.
EV sales refers to the market share or number of electric vehicles sold within a specific period. It is a key metric to track the adoption and growth of electric vehicles in the automotive industry.
"They used to say that the Freelander 2 was the most reliable Land Rover, you know, in all the stuff you could buy all the discoveries, all the defenders, all the Range Rovers. The Freelander 2 was the one that would get you there."
The Land Rover Freelander 2 is a smaller SUV made by Land Rover. People say it is more reliable and trustworthy than some of the bigger Land Rover models, so it is good for getting you where you need to go.
The Land Rover Freelander 2 is a compact luxury SUV produced by Land Rover, known for being more reliable compared to other Land Rover models like the Discovery, Defender, and Range Rover. It is often praised for its dependability and capability in off-road and everyday driving conditions.
"...we are just at the moment at home in the fortunate position of having two EVs. But the thing is..."
An EV is a car that runs on electricity instead of gas. It uses batteries to move, so you charge it instead of filling it with petrol.
EV stands for Electric Vehicle, which is a car powered entirely or primarily by electric batteries instead of traditional internal combustion engines using gasoline or diesel.
""There's a Stellantis brand, isn't it, Leap Motors? Interesting because Stellantis owns the majority business outside China and they own 20% of the business inside China. So there's, if Leap Motor want to establish a factory in America or the Midlands, for that matter. To reduce tariffs or take advantage of incentives or whatever.""
Leap Motors is a company from China that makes electric cars. They might build cars in other countries to make it easier and cheaper to sell them there.
Leap Motors is a Chinese electric vehicle manufacturer. It is partially owned by Stellantis outside China and has ambitions to expand production possibly into markets like the US or UK to avoid tariffs and benefit from incentives.
""There's a Stellantis brand, isn't it, Leap Motors? Interesting because Stellantis owns the majority business outside China and they own 20% of the business inside China.""
Stellantis is a big company that owns many car brands you might know. They make cars in different countries and work with other companies too.
Stellantis is a multinational automotive manufacturing corporation formed from the merger of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and PSA Group. It owns numerous car brands across the globe and has significant business interests in various regions including China.
""If Leap Motor want to establish a factory in America or the Midlands, for that matter. To reduce tariffs or take advantage of incentives or whatever.""
Tariffs are extra taxes you pay when you buy things from other countries. Car companies sometimes make cars in the country to avoid paying these extra taxes.
Tariffs are taxes imposed on imported goods, including cars, which can increase the cost of vehicles brought into a country. Car manufacturers sometimes build factories locally to avoid these extra costs.
""To reduce tariffs or take advantage of incentives or whatever. Yeah. They would be in the driving seat.""
Incentives are like rewards or discounts from the government to help companies or people buy or make certain things, like electric cars.
Incentives are financial benefits or subsidies offered by governments to encourage certain behaviors, such as building factories locally or buying electric vehicles. These can reduce costs for manufacturers or consumers.
"You know, David Pook, who does a lot of work on Alpine's A110s and the A290."
The Alpine A110 is a small sporty car from France that is fun to drive because it is light and has its engine in the middle of the car. It mixes old-school style with new features.
The Alpine A110 is a lightweight sports car made by the French manufacturer Alpine, known for its agile handling and mid-engine layout. It has gained popularity for combining classic sports car dynamics with modern technology.
"That platform is going to be able to accept... He said it's basically an evolution, I think, of the current platform."
A platform is like the base or frame that many cars are built on. It helps car makers use the same parts for different cars to save time and money.
In automotive terms, a platform refers to the underlying structure and mechanical architecture shared by multiple car models. It includes the chassis, suspension design, and sometimes powertrain layout, allowing manufacturers to build different cars efficiently.
"and he was talking about how the platform was going to be the same one that was under the Renault 5 Turbo 3."
The Renault 5 Turbo 3 is a fast and sporty version of a small French car called the Renault 5. It has its engine in the middle and uses a turbo to go faster.
The Renault 5 Turbo 3 is a high-performance variant of the Renault 5, a compact hatchback, featuring a mid-engine layout and turbocharged engine. It is known for its rally heritage and sporty characteristics.
"Because of the pedal box, because of the Weber carburetors, because of the cams,"
The pedal box is the part where the gas, brake, and clutch pedals are attached, and it can be changed to make the car feel more responsive when you press the pedals.
A pedal box refers to the assembly of pedals (accelerator, brake, clutch) and their mechanical linkages, often upgraded in performance cars to improve pedal feel and throttle response.
"Because of the pedal box, because of the Weber carburetors, because of the cams,"
Weber carburetors are parts that mix air and fuel for the engine, helping it run better and respond quickly when you press the gas pedal.
Weber carburetors are a brand of carburetor known for precise fuel delivery and performance tuning, often used in classic and performance cars to improve throttle response and engine character.
"Because of the pedal box, because of the Weber carburetors, because of the cams,"
Cams are parts inside the engine that open and close the valves, helping the engine breathe better and making the car feel quicker when you press the gas.
Cams, or camshafts, control the timing and duration of the engine's valve openings, affecting power delivery and throttle response. Performance cams can improve engine breathing and responsiveness.
"Because there's so many times I see a Lamborghini being revved in the middle of a city just sitting there going, right, and I just think, oh, that's so utterly cringe."
Revving means making the car's engine run faster to make a loud noise, usually when the car isn't moving.
Revving refers to increasing the engine speed (RPM) while the vehicle is stationary or moving, often producing a loud engine sound.
"And I wonder if people are buying a few more Resto mods or keeping some older supercars on the go because they just would rather be seen in them or not or anything."
A restomod is an old car that has been fixed up and improved with new parts to make it work better and be more comfortable, but it still looks like the original car.
A restomod is a classic car that has been restored and modernized with updated technology, performance parts, or comfort features while retaining its original style. This approach combines vintage aesthetics with modern reliability and performance.
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Hello, welcome to the AutoCar Podcast, my week in cars with Pry here.
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Hello, Steven.
How are you?
How's it going?
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Basically, it's several thousand free miles.
It's really sensible idea, which is, I suppose, why the sensibleness has eluded me.
That's part of your mind.
Steve and I are going to be talking our respective AutoCar columns in this week's issue of this podcast.
I'm just scrolling through a bunch of letters now.
You can write to us autocar at haymarket dot com.
Steve and I are going to have a letters special again on Saturday where we answer some of your correspondence,
which is a shorter episode going to run this week because there's no auto car meets pod.
We've had two interviews recently with David Deron, who is the design director at Datsya,
who Felix Page, our deputy editor, sorry, met last week and James Cameron,
of Mission by the Sport, a week before.
But we do not have, well, we may be talking to some people, might we?
But it's not nailed on.
So we're going to run a letters special on Saturday.
So autocar at haymarket dot com if you want to write to us.
But basically, I've got a bunch of letters, mate, and I need to know which ones to read out now
and which ones to read out on Saturday.
I think what I'm going to do is Ollie, who says in response to Calle's email,
who wrote from Finland last week, and Jeremy Clarkson's comments on where the cars lose their soul
because they're electric.
Surely this depends on the type of car and the engine in the first place.
I think that if we're talking everyday cars, the engine are really the highlight.
In my experience, my old Golf 7.5 1.4 TSI would have been no worse for being electric
as you pointed out about your Audi A2.
However, the character and soul of my old Porsche 996 Carrera 4S with a Dansk exhaust
or my previous Mark V Volkswagen Golf R32 would certainly have been diminished
if combustion had been replaced with electrons.
This is why we're seeing high performance manufacturers continue to develop internal combustion engines.
That's where the sense of soul really matters in my opinion.
Because of that, there's much more nuance to this topic than the blanket opinion shared by some people.
Yeah, well, I think that's true.
And also, it's moving so quickly.
You know, we remember when, you know, an electric car was a fairly ordinary Nissan Leaf,
not long ago, not very much range, bit of a, you know, colorless car.
And then along came stuff like the, you know, the Renault 5 and, you know, even the,
well, of course, the Hyundai, the sort of mad Hyundai.
I think five and six ends.
And stuff like that.
I just think it's, they're moving our way.
They're fine, you know, they just needed to get stuff on the market.
Now they're doing it better.
Yeah.
It was somebody at McLaren applied tech or whatever that company is now called
because it's independent, isn't it?
They'd spoke to you about the phases of EV-ness.
Yeah, they were going to be, one, was just making them in the first place.
Yeah.
Back to propagating them and then three starting to get into the phase of people talking to
the enthusiasts.
And I think that sort of moved up the scale a bit because honestly, we're not buying
EVs as quickly as some people would have liked us to.
No, I was at an event this very morning, SMMT thing, thing called SMMT Electrified.
And somebody stood up and said how pleasing it was to, you know, that there's now an
electric Alfa Romeo and it's not a bad car.
You know, he said it's not everybody's absolute cup of tea, but it's, you know,
steers nicely, behaves fundamentally like an Alfa.
And I think it's all, we're getting there.
We're getting there.
We just got to wait a bit.
That's all.
Tell me about this event, Steve.
How was it?
It was good.
It was the idea was to summarize the state of EV, I guess, sales in this country.
And they're pretty parlous state.
The big problem is we've got this thing called the ZEV mandate, which requires manufacturers
to sell more cars than they are comfortable than there is a natural demand for.
So Mike Hawes, the CEO who's absolutely top bloke and always makes a good summarizing
speech, his killer fact, as far as I was concerned, was that last year, manufacturers
spent 11 grand per car in the way of subsidies.
I guess that means, you know, giveaways and extra advertising and just deals.
And if they'd missed the target, they would have been in for 12K per unit.
So they did, they'd only that's a fine.
Effectively, is it the 12,000 pound per car for falling short of your, whatever it
was last year, 28 or something percent of zero emissions.
And his point was that there's no money in it.
And people are fast reaching the point where the, the DOS that they've got to, to subsidize
or to sort of keep going the way the government wants them to keep going is running out.
And plenty of people, you know, there are three or four company reps made the same point.
But what they, they, they very cleverly produced the minister responsible for all this stuff
who is a bloke who's been in parliament for two and a half years.
And he's been the minister for seven months.
And he was Kier Mather.
That's it. Kier Mather.
That's a fella.
And he, he really got on my nerves because 28 year old bloke, very good politician.
You know, sort of clever guy.
But what he did was to practice the art of politics on us, not, not actually do anything.
So what he did was talk about partnership and, you know, what a wonderful job the government's
done so far, list of achievements, talked about frankness and talked about a partnership
between government in the industry and how important the industry was and all that kind of thing.
And the big thing in the room that everybody asked for was a review of the ZDB mandate,
which was getting uncontrollable.
And going in years ago, the government promised a review in 2027 to begin later this year.
So there will be a review of whether or not the trajectory that they've drawn makes sense
because it reaches 80% in 2030.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And everybody was saying, look, this can't work.
It cannot work.
We don't know anybody that reckons it can work.
And meanwhile, the game broke.
He just battered everyone away.
He did it nicely.
He did it in a politician's way and he left with this, with this kind of comment about
how he hoped that he hoped that they could that we could all see that the government was playing its part.
And I became furious.
I wanted to sort of leap up and say, look, you so and so can't you see the system is busted?
Yeah.
Why don't you bloody fix it?
Why can't you see it?
Why can't you not see it when the industry counts?
Is it because the industry is untrusted?
Or is it more ideological than that?
Well, they seem to be obtuse to me.
The Canadians had a system like this and changed it.
The Europe had a system like this and not quite the same, but they had a more punitive system and changed it.
Everybody else who's fairly expert in this said that it can be changed at four or five months notice.
And here are these people thinking of another word, but people saying, well, we'll get to it this year
and we'll give you a decision next year.
And meanwhile, that's another year of billions down the drain while people struggle to sell up to an unattainable market.
It's a really bad business.
Because if you don't meet those regs, if you don't meet those numbers, a fine inverted commas is effectively a tax.
Because it will be passed on to the customer in the first place.
Eventually, you just go, well, I really want a combustion engine car.
Well, we can't sell you one because that'll put us over the thing.
Well, what if I give you 12 grand more?
Well, OK, fine.
Then it just becomes a combustion engine tax, doesn't it, rather than a fine?
A fine implies it's a fine for a manufacturer or so and so.
But the money's coming from somewhere.
It's probably coming from the bundle eventually.
Of course, it was so frustrating.
And you know, he kind of blindly stood there and good-looking young bloke were very plausible.
But if you examine what he actually said, it wasn't worth a damn.
It was not worth, you know.
So, a worthy morning that Steve spent in town today.
Well, it was good to catch up.
What else happens at the thing?
Well, they do various roundtables.
There were people talking about their difficulties.
And there were, you know, lots of different points of view, I suppose.
There was discussion of how the charging point people are going.
They're about 70% as good as they should be.
As well as public charges.
But everybody in the car industry was rather sort of sniffing.
Because the point about the point is that if the charging point industry doesn't achieve its targets,
there's no penalty at all.
No.
So they just, you know, do their best and blow it on.
And mind you, some of their problems is connection with the grid, you know, which is another government issue.
Yeah.
But I feel frustrated because to have gone from nothing in 2012 to 25% of EV sales in 2025 is a major achievement.
And yet, because we're not up to 20, 28% on whatever it is, it's seen as a failure.
And that is iniquitous.
It's wrong.
Do they feel, do they, do, does, do governments all over the place, not just here,
think that if they don't insist on keeping it going somehow, the, just the enthusiasm for it will go out of it.
And it will become, EVs will become Beta Max to VHS.
Or if they think that it is far enough on and liked enough and that the future is definitely,
is there still any hesitance in government that EVs are the future?
Because they fear if they back off that customers will just go.
No, I don't think so.
Everybody that was a, was a car company rep.
There was a very eloquent lady from Volvo, the UK managing director of Volvo.
She, she made it clear that they're on this path anyway.
They're on the, they're on the, not only the path of, of, of launching parts of EV models,
but also making sure that everything's recyclable and that, and that factories,
net zero manufacturer and all the rest of it, that it's a path they're on anyway.
She, she was making the point and others not quite as well.
She made it best for the industry, which is just that we're doing it.
We want to do it.
Then the, the objective is net zero.
Mike Hawes was good.
He said, look, we're on a course to net zero.
And that is un, you know, unalterable.
But what happens on a journey is that sometimes you're sat and have,
reroutes you around a difficulty.
And what we have now is a difficulty.
We had COVID, we had problems with, with, do you remember computer chips?
So we conduct a supply and stuff.
And we, you know, they're just, isn't, you can't force people to, to buy cars.
They don't want, you have to, you have to, what's needed is far less stick
and a fair bit more encourage.
Yeah.
And it's just pace of change, isn't it?
You've got to get, and why would, yeah, they do report to us.
So why is it not going at the pace that suits the public rather than a pace
that suits somebody else?
Yeah.
I had to take my car into Bista the other day, for a fix, and I hadn't been
to the MOT station I was going to use before.
So I just thought, I'll look it up on Google Maps and see where it is exactly
in town.
It's about five miles away.
And as Google does, it suggests how to get there.
And it said in the car, it would take me eight minutes.
And it said on public transport, it would take me an hour and a half.
I thought, well, I know which one I'm doing.
And but then I thought, I'm pretty sure that my county council, which is
Oxfordshire, you know, was trying to dissuade me from using a car.
And I looked up a document from a couple of years ago that said it would discourage
people from making private car journeys, tried to reduce private car journeys
by 25% by 2030 and encourage active travel such as cycling and walking.
I'm taking a car for an MOT so I can't actively cycle or walk to take
my car for an MOT even though Google did suggest that I might want to do
so when I asked it, would it be greener to take my car for an MOT
if I walked to the test centre?
It went, yeah, that would be a much better idea.
That would be a much greener idea.
Anyway, I was like, well, where is it?
So are they not fixing the potholes around here?
Because actually they like the stick and not the carrot.
How are they trying to get me out of my car, apart from just making it
more expensive and not fixing the roads?
There is a feeling.
I must say, I mean, perhaps this is paranoia, but I do get the feeling
that kind of minimum efforts are being made in order to punish us.
Yeah, and I don't like being a conspiracy theorist.
It sits uncomfortably with me.
But I become, you know, have I become a ranting nutcase?
You would think there'd be enough earache in the council officers these days
because more and more people, you know, I wrote the other day
about doing two tires in one, and I've had really quite a lot of mail
from people saying, here's what you do.
You know, here's the website where you complain.
This is the procedure to complain.
So there must be people merrily doing it.
I didn't bother because I just not.
Yeah, but there are a lot of forms and can you do this?
Can you send that photo?
Can you prove that nobody's written it before and make it as hard as possible?
Make it as difficult as possible.
Yeah, we've had correspondence about me saying that if you do this
and that and the other.
But it's all, yeah, it's just all a little bit tied into a general feeling of.
Yeah, being a fashionless, I think, yeah.
Yeah, optimism seems to be in short supply somehow.
But luckily, the thing that I was just thinking about this
was I pulled into your rather excellent driveway and parked next to your B.M.
No, I didn't park next to your B.M.
Because you very kindly left me a spot.
I left your spot next to the other.
I'll slide your gaff.
Yeah.
Well, I thought you'd have bags and microphones and stuff.
So when I pulled up earlier, I thought I'll park out the way
so you can.
That's really nice of you.
No, it's not at all.
It's not at all.
But the thing is, even despite despite all, you know,
the wind winds raging outside.
It's a rather horrible day.
We're going to run out of light in a minute.
But I'm still looking forward to driving home across Cotswolds.
They cannot beat.
I'm afraid they can't beat the pleasure of driving out of me.
They can take everything.
They cannot take your freedom.
As they said, I mean, they sort of can really, can't they?
But it warms your heart when you spot a car dealer
whose business is dedicated to a particular model above all.
Yeah.
Which one?
Which one?
Well, there's a there's a dealer near us that sells almost entirely
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