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Hey, f***ing cars, every day.
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Oh, I just thought of another police story.
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When I was in Waiotech in Wyoming, I don't know if you know, Laramie, Wyoming, it's 27,000
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people, but it's got two colleges.
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It's got the University of Wyoming, and it's got Waiotech, Wyoming Technical Institute.
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But it is the most police per capita in the United States.
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They have five branches of police there.
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So not only was Laramie one of the most, Marshfield, where I live, was the second.
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I think we have poor choices in places to live, apparently.
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So I needed a, I had a Fiero project.
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We can get into Fierro's another day.
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That's another die-hard love of mine, but I had a Fiero that I was doing a bunch of
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work to in the garage, and I was like, I need another car to drive while I'm out
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So I went to Denver one night with a friend, bought a Craigslist find, 1990 Toyota Supra.
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It was N8, but they had to buy it at 300 wheel horsepower.
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So it was like a manual, you know, dual overhead cam, six cylinder, I think it was 89, 89 Toyota
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So it's the third gen.
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It's not the big fancy rounded out fourth gen that sell for $100,000 now.
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But it was like precursor to that super fun car.
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So I went to Denver on a Saturday night and I buy this Supra for, I don't know, $2,500
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or something like that, something that you couldn't buy one for now.
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But I buy it and it's Saturday night, the guy goes, hey, just leave the car.
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I don't need the license plate, just leave it on there until you register it on Monday
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so that way you don't get pulled over.
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I'm like, okay, that makes sense.
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Monday morning, I'm back in Laramie and I'm driving with some friends to go somewhere.
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I don't know, grab breakfast or whatever.
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I'm at a stoplight on Main Street with my turn signal on and a police car pulls up behind
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me and I see him and I'm like, okay, whatever.
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I'm not doing anything wrong.
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I got a license plate on the car and you know what I mean, we're all wearing our
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We're at a stoplight stopped before he even saw me, my turn signal sign.
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So I turn, I make it a block to the stop sign.
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I'm like, okay, whatever.
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You know, what could he possibly want to pull me over for?
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So I turn off the road because unlike most people, I get off the road when I'm pulled
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over so I'm not disrupting traffic.
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So I pull into a parking lot, he pulls up, gets out of the car, comes up to me
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and he goes, you go to the tech and I'm, I couldn't lie to him because it's wearing a
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wild tech jacket, like the Eagles right on my chest, right, right at the window where he
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And I'm like, I looked down at my jacket and I look up at him and I'm like, yeah, I
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go to wild tech and he's like, I had a feeling.
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I was like, all right.
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And he's like licensed in registration and I was like, okay, I give him the title
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that signed last night, you know, the DMVs aren't open, so I can't register it.
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So I give him the title.
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I just bought the car last night.
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He takes my driver's license.
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He comes back and he goes, I'm going to give you a ticket for no insurance.
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Like, and this is before, this is before, you know, we had apps with our insurance
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and stuff like that.
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I mean, Wyoming, it must have been, but like, there wasn't like, you could log on
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to Progressive on your app and get insurance like in five minutes.
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You would have to call.
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So I'm like, well, I bought it last night.
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How am I supposed to get insurance at 10 o'clock at night?
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You know, and it's, it's eight in the morning or nine in the morning now.
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Like on a Sunday, there's no insurance company open.
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And I said, isn't there like a 48 hour leniency period or anything?
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So I get a ticket for no insurance.
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He sends me on my way.
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He tells me you better get this car registered on Monday.
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And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to no problem.
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So, you know, I'm 18, 19 in college in another state.
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I forget to pay the ticket.
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Months later, I'm a home.
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I come home on my lunch because we had a, at Wildtech, there was like the dorms
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or, there was like the fancy dorms are right next to the campus.
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There was like a couple of other dorms scattered through town, but my friends
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and I rented a duplex with a two car garage on it or whatever.
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And we could like throw a football to the dorms.
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So we were right there.
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It ended up always being the party house.
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They were throwing caggers and all this stuff, or you could like walk.
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You could walk across the field back to the dorms, but on lunch, I would come
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home and I'd eat, you know, food in my, you know, sit at my house and eat
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on the couch or whatever instead of sitting in the classroom and eat.
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So I come home on lunch from chassis fabrication class and my girlfriend at
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the time is visiting from Wisconsin and there's a knock on the door.
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I'm like, I'm upstairs.
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I'm not paying attention.
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My roommate answers the door is two cops standing there.
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They go, is Ethan here?
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And he goes, oh yeah, sure.
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He's right upstairs.
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Let me get him for you.
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I'm like, wow, what a good friend.
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So he comes upstairs, knocks on my door.
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He's like, hey, there's cops outside for us for you.
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And I was like, and you told him I was here?
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He's like, oh, I didn't think of that.
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So I wander downstairs and I like go up and I'm like, what's up?
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You know, and they go, Ethan Fenner.
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And they go, we got a warrant for your arrest.
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They cuff me at the door.
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My girlfriend starts screaming and I'm like, are you serious?
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Two cops to come pick him up.
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What are you getting for?
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They're like, you didn't pay a ticket.
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And she's like, what's the ticket for?
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He's like, they're like no insurance.
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They're like, you're arresting him for no, for not paying a car insurance ticket.
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And so she's like, starts going off and getting all mad.
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And then one of our friends, his last, his last name was literally he man.
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And this guy had a full ride scholarship to University of Wyoming for a linebacker
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for the football team.
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But yeah, yeah, huge dude.
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It's like they were like Kansas cattle farmers or something like that.
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And this huge dude, he just comes up behind my girlfriend.
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Who's not my wife, by the way.
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And he like picks her up and just carries her in the house, closes the door
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and then just stands against the door because he's like, you're going to
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make things worse because she's like screaming at the cops or whatever.
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So they take me back.
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They put me in the car and then like two cop cars because they needed
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two cops and two cop cars because I was such a, you know, wicked criminal
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with my no insurance ticket and they take me to jail and process me and whatever.
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And like, but I'm basically an outlaw because Laramie Wyoming
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is where they had a butch Cassidy.
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That's where he went to jail.
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Butch Cassidy, the old like train robber.
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So I'm like, yeah, I'm associated me, butch Cassidy, but I've been
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the same jail cell, probably not, but they put me in like they put me in
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They don't even turn the lights on for me and I'm in there for 45 minutes.
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And then she, they're like, they put me in the holding cell.
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They say, do you want a phone call?
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I call my girlfriend and she's like, where are you?
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What do I have to pay?
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So I tell them or they give me the information she comes down,
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pays them 400 bucks and then I was out.
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So I was in jail for 45 minutes, totally worth it, I guess for them.
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The bad news is she had paid for a tattoo for $400 for me like two days prior.
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So it became a pretty expensive visit to her boyfriend for.
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But oh, it's a suspect.
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But so she bailed me out and she, yeah.
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Oh, I think I've paid her back by now.
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But the the whole thing that's crazy to me is I literally got pulled over
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Well, put a set aside my irresponsibility for not paying the ticket.
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But I got pulled over and went to jail for driving a red Toyota Supra and nothing else.
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Yes, and going to the tennis.
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Well, I know some buddies of mine that went to Wild Tech
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and they got arrested for street racing.
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I think I got arrested because he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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If we're like it's like some burglary thing that he was just like
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his roommates or somebody he knew was doing it or something.
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I know the cops out there were pretty nuts and I'd never even been out there.
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Yeah, they were they were ruthless.
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You got two colleges and like just a ton of hormone raging age kids
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just running around town making a mess all the time.
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And they're not not only driving like loud stock cars
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or driving loud fast cars and shit like that, too.
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You know, fast cars.
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Yeah, we were like pro charging Tacomas and stuff like those.
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Remember those two wheel drive kind of raced Tacomas that were like lower
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than the body kit on them there.
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There was a special model.
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I can't remember what it was called, but they were pretty sweet
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and they were already like a OK fast car.
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And then we were like throwing pro chargers on them
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and they were a street racing them at night against everybody.
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And that's like during the rise of L.S.
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Motors, so everybody had like wicked trans Ames and superheroes.
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And sure, it was a good time.
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Back back before I never call it.
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I just went to a local tech and North Central Technical College
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for collision, pretty much.
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But and it was it was in a collision shop.
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It looked like this inside the shop.
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I mean, not necessarily a lot of old cars,
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but I think there were a couple older cars.
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There was a must like a 60s month first gen Mustang.
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There's some guy with the 50s Ford convertible,
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but everything else like I had my many my my S 10 there.
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There are a couple of the many trucks, a bunch of import stuff.
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And everybody was like shaving everything.
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Like there was nothing stock or collision happening.
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It was all just like people bringing their project cars in
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and we're going to learn on your project car.
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That was kind of neat.
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That's actually pretty cool.
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When I got out of college, I applied at like all the body shops
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and stuff like that.
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And I actually had the dealership
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that I ended up getting a job at when I applied there.
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They called me up and they went, why did you go out of state?
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Why didn't you go to North Central Technical College?
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It was like a bad thing that I didn't go to the local school.
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Yeah, I mean, but they're even now, they don't.
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I think they have a they don't have an auto body anything.
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I don't think NTC has auto body at all.
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I know they had a free class that you could.
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I shouldn't say they don't have anything.
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They had a free class that was in Wausai.
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It wasn't even at the auto body center in Annago anymore.
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They have like a makeshift shop.
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I think you're out.
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I don't really remember how that worked, but it was like a grant program
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that kids could go because there was such a lack of technicians in the area
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that they they could go to school for free.
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But it was I don't know exactly what the what the schooling actually looked like itself.
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Yeah, it's definitely a dying, dying skills.
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Like the shops are getting emptier and emptier everywhere.
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Yeah, there's actually a lot of more females
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in our area coming into the collision world.
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Anyways, there's a lot more than I've ever seen ever, ever, ever.
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I think there's there's openings and like I'm sure everybody's like happy
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to have them at that point.
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Like you just need people that want to show up and do the work, you know?
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And well, I think there's a level of detail that some males don't have
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and more and more than likely the females will have.
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I mean, there's there's things my wife sees that
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that sometimes I will not glaze over, but she'll see these things
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before I see them kind of a thing, you know?
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But yeah, I mean, everybody's got their own little skill set.
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Depends on what it is, right?
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My wife that often helped like over the years and still
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on like a little bit of like paint work that I do
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like with final prep and stuff like that, because like you'll scuff
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into like all the edges and corners and tape everything off.
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And then she'll come around and like tighten some of the tape up
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and, you know, scuff in the edges a little bit better.
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I don't know if she's like got a better eye or she's more patient.
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She's just like, we're going to do this right.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, so it's always cool.
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I just yeah, that's definitely the eye that that most shops need.
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They think maybe all these shops need more females than.
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Yeah, the heck with men.
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Yeah, that's pretty cool.
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Yeah, so you got seeing you work on your upper
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or your control arms for your the front of your pre-runner truck.
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I did a lot of 200, 205 amp Tegweld
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slaying down the rip passes on these.
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It feels like I've been doing these welds
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and building these lower control arms for weeks.
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But I really burnt them in.
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There's like a lot of inner structure on them.
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So you can't like you look at the outside
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and they're kind of lackluster.
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But there's a ton of inner structure
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like inside the plate work that you don't see.
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And it's like if I'm going to jump a 4600 pound truck,
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it's got to have something really sturdy
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that's going to take that beginning of the landing.
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So they're super anchored down.
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Quarter inch plate, three sixteenths wall square tubing.
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And then so I've got that done.
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And then yesterday, I did like an hour and a half
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live stream of just me grinding, like just kind of.
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I watch some of it. Watch all of it.
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I don't expect anybody to watch anything.
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But like, so I like was just grinding on it.
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And I'm not really like grinding welds per se,
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because they're just rip pass welds anyway.
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So they're pretty flat.
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But it just like getting everything dialed in and cleaned up.
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So that way I can get the overlay plates on there.
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I think I'm going to do triangle cutouts on the overlay plates
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just because everybody does circles.
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So I'm going to build like a jig to plasma cut triangles out.
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You know what I mean by overlay plate? Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. So I'll lay that over all this.
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Yeah, over all the seams to give it strength
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and then weld all the little triangle windows open
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and or will weld them closed.
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So it's got even more weld than if I just welded a plate
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on the outside of it on and then shock tabs,
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which I might try to cut some shock tabs out today and get those.
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I just got to set the height.
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So there's clearance for the body of the coil over
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to come under them from the eyelet.
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And what kind of plasma cut do you have?
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I bought just recently a yes, welder.
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I think I got off of Amazon.
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Yes, well, it's like a 50 amp plasma cutter.
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It was like under one hundred and fifty dollars.
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And I I know a guy that lives in Wisconsin
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that is like the hardest on all equipment and cars.
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And like he's just like super hard and stuff.
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And he has a kind of an alarm keyboard.
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Yes, welder, multi-processed thing.
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It was like a plasma cutter, a welder,
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Miggit Stig and stick tick and I had a plasma cutter in it.
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And he's just been beating the crap out for like two years.
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And it's been working fine.
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So I was like, oh, maybe I'll try one of these out.
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And so I picked up this little yes,
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welder plasma cutter blows through quarter inch like butter.
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Super lightweight like compact.
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Does it have to hook air up to that one?
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I hook it to my compressor.
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The ones with the pumps are a little bit more money.
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Not that not outrageous.
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It's like buying a like a miller or a Lincoln or something.
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But the only ones I've ever used were some.
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I think they were all millers.
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So I don't know if I don't really have a whole lot of plasma cutter
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experiences aside from like some of the shops that I had that.
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But you're not really cutting the sheet metal out with plasma cutter
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very often, like ever.
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So yeah, I want one.
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But just a matter of having something to apply it to right away to.
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Yeah, for me, like I I've been doing everything with like cut off,
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you know, four and a half inch cut off wheel.
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And so like when you start getting into like these these intricate shapes,
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I can do it and I've been doing it forever.
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But it's like, I think I just decided I'm like, you earned it.
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Get a plasma cutter.
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And just as it's definitely speeding up a lot of my processes,
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you got to like clean up a little slag on that quarter inch
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because it's blowing through so much material.
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But other than that, like I'm pretty pleased with it.
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That's what I'm going to do my shock tabs and everything with.
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I'll just blow them out with a with the plasma and then
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quick clean them up with the grinder, drill holes in them and weld them on.
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You ever dig into that sun cut, send it all.
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I've looked at it, but I haven't had like
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a real computer to like CAD everything.
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Our minds wrapped around that because I got to dig into that, too.
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I but I might have a workaround for that now.
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Well, I mean, not a workaround for the CAD,
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but there's a guy that I talked to here.
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He's kind of over in Tampa area.
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He's starting up a off-road fabrication business
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and he just got a plasma table.
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So I'm thinking about talking to him
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of maybe once he gets it going and doing his stuff
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because he's going to build long travel kits for raptors.
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He's already done two, but he's just been doing them by hand in the garage.
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But once he gets going, I might consider having him
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cut out some plate work for me.
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And then I mean, it's just two hours away or even if he shipped it to me,
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it wouldn't be a big deal because it's such a short trip.
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That's pretty cool.
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Yeah, I was thinking about doing my
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like this and be cool.
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The CNC stuff is so nice these days
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and the prices are coming down.
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Well, if you can get like a 3D scanner
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and then build it in whatever your program is
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and then just send it off and have it printed
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her shape, you know, like literally printed somewhere
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like besides sheet metal or or even
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just plastic 3D print parts, too.
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I mean, I think you could get away with not having the printer
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in the future, just having the scanner in the program,
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sending it off and having it sent to you in the mail.
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Great. I've seen like ring brothers had a bunch of stuff
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that was 3D printed out of stainless on that car.
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We were talking about earlier.
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I think they last was that last Seema
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that I thought all the cars that they brought,
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they 3D printed all the keys out of stainless.
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I thought I heard that's wild.
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Just crazy kind of work.
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Yeah, I haven't looked into the 3D printers.
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Didn't I thought Fuller Moto
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did a 3D printed rear wheel on a motorcycle.
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I thought it was like a bed of babies
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like metal babies and lasers would like, you know.
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Oh, really? Melted all the side.
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Yeah, it was and then you just pull it out.
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Yeah, it looked pretty.
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I thought that was Fuller Moto. I could be wrong.
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Yeah, I was wondering how they did that.
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It's like this explode.
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I guess that's kind of how the resin 3D printers work.
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They like start with a bed of liquid
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and then they use a laser to cure it
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and then they like slowly raise it up.
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Yeah, something like that.
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Yeah, I've seen metal.
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I've seen metal printers that are just like
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it looks like just a MIG welder.
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They just run around and just keep adding and adding and adding.
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It literally looks like a MIG welder.
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So I don't know what it actually
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what kind of metal you're going to end up with.
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It's just going to be hard as a rock
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and you're never going to be able to do anything with it.
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It's interesting stuff. The future is coming.
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Yeah, do you know anything about those laser welders?
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How brittle or how like how hard that weld is
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if you can manipulate it like a TIG weld?
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Um, I don't think because I think it uses
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like whatever filler rod you want.
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So I don't think it would be any more brittle.
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Well, actually, I use the same filler.
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My MIG welder is just a matter of the gas
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and how it welds, I would imagine.
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I'm not a metal artist.
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I think yeah, if you're using the same gas
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and you're I don't know what they even use for gas.
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But I would imagine if you're using like 100% argon
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and then the same like ER 70S, I don't think they use gas at all.
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Oh, they don't use gas at all.
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I don't think they use gas at all
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because we had a laser, we had a laser abrasion cleaner.
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So we're going to clean sheet metal with it.
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And it was it worked OK to take the first layer off.
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But if it was any deep like deep corrosion,
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it was only cleaning the top layer
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and it wasn't like removing physically removing the layer
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and then cleaning underneath of it.
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So it's not like sandblasting where it's hitting
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and physically removing things.
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It was just cleaning a linker.
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You'd have to wire wire brush it or something
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and then clean more.
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So those the laser cleaners definitely have their place.
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But it's not like a fix all.
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It's not like a I'm going to do this instead of sandblasting
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because there's some cars that just need to be sandblasted
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to be cleaned properly.
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Yeah, I the place I work at the the owner
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was looking at a laser welder.
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But he said that there was a there was some warnings about
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like the laser will actually like burn you pretty good.
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Obviously, so can a welder.
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But but I guess like yeah, I mean, it would be no different
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than like, you know, those UV curing lights
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and stuff for for collision primers and stuff like that.
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I mean, there's always going to be some of new technology.
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I think I know there was a place in town that was looking
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at getting laser welder and cleaner and they actually bought one.
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And then they had some warning on it like about, I don't know
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if it's like a, you know, like a California sticker
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that it's going to cause cancer or whatever.
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And so everybody was in an uproar about this
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this laser thing that's like, man, I've used one.
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It's like, I don't know.
23:58
It's just it's just different technology.
24:00
That's got a different warning on it.
24:01
You know, a welder can burn you and fuck you up pretty good too.
24:05
So what's the difference?
24:06
Yeah, I'm always getting myself with the TIG welder.
24:12
Yeah, I throw it on the mansion.
24:18
They get they get you a lot.
24:23
I think I'm going to work on this model in next week.
24:26
Buddy Joe's model A.
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There's some finishing of the check rough metal
24:30
rough skin on top that I got to get, you know,
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they have the opening on the top of the model A.
24:36
So you got a weld in a new roof and it's
24:40
we bought a Mustang roof, Mustang coupe roof, a new one instead
24:44
of hammering out a brand new flat sheet metal.
24:48
We just bought a Mustang rough.
24:49
You flip it backwards.
24:50
You can actually use the front the rear flange for the rear
24:53
window for the front flange on a model A and it kind
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of fits the twenty twenty nine model that it kind of makes
24:59
the it fits the curve a little like it fits the front end
25:02
of the vehicle and like it looks really well.
25:06
You just got to adapt it.
25:07
I think it's less work than as long as the customer likes
25:10
to look, it's less work than, you know, making it all yourself.
25:13
So if we can speed any of those processes, I definitely want to get that done.
25:17
But you had to buy some side panels for the above the window
25:20
there are above the doors, some new ones.
25:23
So that kind of says back a little bit as far as waiting for
25:26
But I'm going to try and squeeze a little bit of time in on that thing.
25:31
We chopped it four inches and he wants to keep it like
25:36
like, I think like early 60s style, like not super chopped
25:40
or maybe late fifties.
25:42
It was like not super chopped, but, you know, definitely looks chopped
25:46
like late fifties hot rod and not kind of like head in it.
25:51
Yeah, classy, classy.
25:52
He wants to end up painting it and stuff.
25:54
But one piece at a time, one butt at a time, right?
25:59
I wouldn't be able to have one of those and not paint it like some crazy
26:02
at Big Daddy Roth style candy job, multiple panels.
26:08
Yeah, he's got a he's got a color in mind.
26:09
That's like a dark maroon metallic where at night
26:14
it's going to look really, really dark, almost black.
26:17
And then in the sun, you know, it definitely got some
26:20
it'll hit back, hit your eyes back for sure.
26:27
I like to think like that Mustang
26:30
with that Mustang rough skin, like that it's like kind of to me
26:35
like real hot riding, especially like back in the fifties and sixties,
26:37
they were like kind of building what they could with whatever they could find.
26:40
So like you can find a piece of sheet metal from another car
26:45
that fits the window, you know, brow line and stuff like that.
26:50
Well, I've done it before on a different monolay.
26:53
It's the same same twenty eight twenty nine monolay that was chopped.
26:57
The chop was done by somebody else, but I was the hired to do the rough skin
27:01
and drip rails and all kinds of different stuff on it.
27:04
But that guy had bought in a junkyard one and he only had he he paid like,
27:09
I don't know, I can't remember what he paid for it.
27:11
But it was he we should have bought after a new aftermarket one.
27:15
And we would have been money ahead as far as like cleaning the
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rust on the old one and stuff.
27:20
But, you know, you know, every day is a school day.
27:24
So yeah, definitely buying that new rough skin.
27:28
I mean, that thing is you think aftermarket after, you know,
27:32
the old aftermarket panels would be like some tinny thin shit.
27:34
Like this rough skin is if you hit it and it's like, Dung,
27:39
like it's a it's a it's got to be all of 18 games after it's stamped.
27:47
Yeah, it's pretty nice.
27:50
I don't love doing anything under 20 gauge for stuff like that.
27:54
You know, it sucks, you know, you definitely want that's why, you know,
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in the shaping world, they want it.
27:58
Usually people are trying to use if you have the ability to use 19 gauge
28:02
because it's like the sweet spot.
28:03
So we're stretching it out.
28:05
You're not get past the 20 gauge mark really on yet.
28:09
You know, I don't think it really wants to get to 20 gauge.
28:11
But if it happens, it happens, you know,
28:15
after a lot of squeezing.
28:18
Yeah, I got to give me some more 19 gauge.
28:21
I get it from a guy in central Minnesota
28:24
that gets it from a guy in Chicago.
28:27
So yeah, it's, you know, but I can't even I talk to the guys
28:32
in town here about getting sheet metal 19 gauge in there.
28:35
Like, yeah, we can get it.
28:36
And then they'll call me back 10 minutes later, like, I don't know
28:38
where people get that.
28:40
It's like, well, it doesn't just come out of nowhere.
28:43
You know, it's got to be coming out of a similar factory.
28:46
It's just a matter of having the button to click, you know,
28:49
to order it and get it to this.
28:52
I think it's going to cost him more money
28:53
just because it's got to come from Chicago or something like that.
28:56
I feel like you might be part of like a sheet metal smuggling ring
29:00
that you're just kind of inferring about right now.
29:03
It kind of is the sheet that the metal shaping world is pretty small.
29:07
So when you get into like then the need for 19 gauge,
29:11
it's even that that's pretty small crowd, you know, definitely small crowd.
29:18
Yeah, it seems like there's more demand for even numbers.
29:22
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
29:25
I had a lady from doing research, industrial research for for Bailey
29:32
industrial stop, just kind of touring around and seeing what I think
29:37
it was just like, what can I sell you kind of a thing or what can we sell
29:40
you kind of a thing, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
29:42
You know, if you want new things, something new or better in the shop.
29:46
I told her like, man, you need a for one, you need sweeps.
29:50
You know, they don't have sweeps like on their web.
29:54
They should just be you need a sweep to like what I don't know
29:57
if anybody knows what a sweep is.
29:58
It's like a radius gauge.
29:59
So I have small radius gauges right now.
30:01
But I need sweeps so you can do like a long radius, like a door
30:04
skin, rough skin, you know, three, four foot long.
30:08
There are just a couple of grand is like the entry level for some of the stuff.
30:12
And it's just like flat pieces of material.
30:16
So like you guys need you guys need those and you guys need a source for 19 gauge.
30:21
Like if you guys can sell these machines and set and I mean, some of them
30:25
that high end machine that they sell like 60 grand or something.
30:28
And you got to go to Chicago to get sheet metal to use that.
30:33
Like, I don't know.
30:35
They need to get a maybe a better source for the shapers that are buying
30:40
their stuff to to to have the sheet metal that is required to do such jobs.
30:48
Is that right? Hear me out.
30:51
You can't out the radius gauges and then you have send cut send cut you big sweeps.
30:58
I think you'd be more.
30:59
I think you'd be more.
31:00
Depends on what it really depends on the material they use, I think.
31:04
So I think it's just a matter of finding the right material
31:06
that doesn't mess up when it's cut out or I'm sure if it's a laser
31:10
cut or a water jet cut, it's not going to like warp or anything.
31:13
So I imagine it's just finding the right material and and having
31:17
the a big enough run for it to make sense for somebody.
31:23
But these big companies, I mean, have like bail, you can't tell me
31:26
Bailey Industrial can't make a set of sweeps for a thousand dollars.
31:29
Like they should be able to do that.
31:32
Yeah, they make plenty.
31:36
I mean, you think they would eventually sell them and get their money back on
31:39
whatever whom I say.
31:43
I only got a few Bailey things here, so I can talk too much.
31:48
Well, guys, until next time, just keep fucking with cars.
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32:40
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32:44
I definitely got to get some food in my belly.
32:48
Food in your belly.
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I never have really good ideas.
32:56
It's always just like, hey, let's do it right now.
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I don't know what I'm doing.