Towing Secrets & The Ike Gauntlet: How To Pull Heavy Loads Without Destroying Your Truck! | Ep. 319
About this episode
Towing heavy loads can be daunting, but this episode reveals essential insights from over a decade of towing tests. The hosts discuss the importance of brake controllers, tongue weight, and legal limitations when selecting a towing vehicle. They share a compelling story about a recent press event that highlighted misconceptions about towing capacity. With practical advice for compact, mid-sized, and heavy-duty trucks, as well as SUVs and EVs, listeners will gain valuable knowledge to avoid damaging their vehicles while towing.
( https://www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! In this episode of TFL Talkin' Trucks, we are diving deep into the world of towing! Whether you're hauling a small utility trailer or a massive 5th wheel, towing can be one of the most stressful things you do with your pickup. We break down our top tips for towing safely, from choosing the right hitch to managing your tongue weight.
We also discuss the legendary Ike Gauntlet™—the world's toughest towing test. Why do we go to 11,158 feet in the Colorado Rockies to push these trucks to the limit? We explain what we've learned from years of testing half-tons and HD trucks on the "Ike" and how that data helps you decide which truck you actually need for your next camping trip or job site.
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Volkswagen Bus
"...I don't want to throw any manufacturer out of the bus so I won't need the manufacturers name them. [SPE..."
The Volkswagen Bus is a classic, boxy van that people love for its fun look and the ability to carry a lot of people. It’s famous for its history and is often seen at festivals.
The Volkswagen Bus, also known as the VW Type 2, is an iconic vehicle recognized for its unique design and cultural significance. It has a rich history and is often associated with the counterculture movement of the 1960s.
brake controller
"...without a brake controller, you can really only tow 3,000 pounds. Well, so I'm assuming that the CV has a hitch..."
A brake controller helps you control how much the trailer's brakes work when you're towing it. This is important for stopping safely, especially if the trailer is heavy.
A brake controller is a device that regulates the braking power applied to a trailer's brakes when being towed. It allows the driver to adjust the braking force based on the weight of the trailer and the driving conditions, improving safety and control while towing.
diesel truck
"...we went right for the diesel..."
Diesel trucks run on diesel fuel and are known for being strong and efficient. They are great for towing heavy things and doing tough jobs.
Diesel trucks use a diesel engine, which is known for its fuel efficiency and torque. They are often preferred for towing and heavy-duty applications due to their power and durability.
7 pin connector
"...which is a 7 pin, which is appropriate. But what it doesn't have is an actual button..."
A 7 pin connector is a plug that connects your car to a trailer. It helps control things like the trailer's lights and brakes when you're towing it.
A 7 pin connector is a type of electrical connector commonly used for towing trailers. It provides connections for various functions such as brake lights, turn signals, and trailer brakes, ensuring proper communication between the tow vehicle and the trailer.
Bentley Bentayga
"...at the top of the list, until this week was either the Bentayga. Yes, which is cool. I don't know. Nothing wrong with the Bentayga."
The Bentley Bentayga is a very fancy SUV that is known for being luxurious and powerful. It's designed for people who want a comfortable and stylish ride.
The Bentley Bentayga is a luxury SUV known for its opulence, performance, and advanced technology. It combines high-end materials with powerful engine options, making it a popular choice among affluent buyers.
Porsche Cayenne
"...or a Porsche Cayenne hybrid."
The Porsche Cayenne Hybrid is a type of SUV that uses both a regular engine and an electric motor. This helps it use less gas and be better for the environment while still being fast and fun to drive.
The Porsche Cayenne Hybrid is a variant of the Cayenne SUV that combines a gasoline engine with an electric motor for improved fuel efficiency and reduced emissions. It offers the performance expected from Porsche while being more environmentally friendly.
tongue weight
"And then the third thing that they never mentioned is tongue weight. So I thought it'd be good to talk about all that, so people understand why when you're choosing a toe rig, these three things are very important because they all come down to how much you can tell."
Tongue weight is how much weight is pressing down on the hitch of your vehicle from the trailer. It's important to get this right for safe towing.
Tongue weight refers to the downward force that the tongue of a trailer exerts on the hitch of the towing vehicle. It's crucial for safe towing, as improper tongue weight can lead to instability and control issues while driving.
full-size SUV
"But I imagine that the engineering team and the CEO they looked at it and they said we have a full size SCV and it has the big engine. Yes, it has a nice transmission."
A full-size SUV is a big vehicle that can carry a lot of people and stuff. It's usually stronger and can tow heavy things, like trailers.
A full-size SUV is a larger sport utility vehicle that typically offers more passenger and cargo space compared to mid-size and compact SUVs. They often come with powerful engines and are designed for towing and off-road capabilities.
transmission
"Yes, it has a nice transmission. Yes, it has a lot of cooling."
The transmission is what helps the car change gears so it can go faster or slower. It's an important part that connects the engine to the wheels.
The transmission is a crucial component of a vehicle that transfers power from the engine to the wheels. It allows the vehicle to change gears, which is essential for controlling speed and torque.
suspension
"It has a good suspension. Yep."
The suspension is the part of the car that helps it ride smoothly over bumps and keeps the tires on the ground. It makes driving more comfortable.
The suspension system of a vehicle is designed to support the weight of the vehicle, absorb shocks from the road, and maintain tire contact with the ground for better handling and comfort.
towing capacity
"So based on those factors, it could, it's rated, you know, they certified it to pull 8,000 pounds. That's great."
Towing capacity is how much weight a vehicle can pull behind it, like a trailer or boat. It's important to know so you don't overload the vehicle.
Towing capacity refers to the maximum weight a vehicle can safely tow. It is determined by the vehicle's engine power, transmission, and structural design.
brake fluid
"And if you're writing your brake, it's going to boil the brake fluid. It's going to boil the brakes."
Brake fluid is the liquid that helps your car's brakes work. When you press the brake pedal, this fluid moves through the brake system to help slow down or stop the car. If the brakes get too hot, the fluid can boil, which can cause problems.
Brake fluid is a hydraulic fluid used in brake systems to transfer force from the brake pedal to the brake components. When brakes are applied, the fluid helps create the necessary pressure to stop the vehicle. If the brakes overheat, the fluid can boil, leading to brake failure.
runaway truck ramps
"...on the mountain highways we drive on the interstates, like the I-70, they have run away truck ramps for a reason, because semi-trucks have gigantic brakes, right?"
Runaway truck ramps are special areas on highways where big trucks can go if their brakes stop working. These ramps are made of soft materials like sand, which help slow the truck down safely, preventing accidents.
Runaway truck ramps are emergency escape routes designed for large trucks that have lost braking power. These ramps are typically made of gravel or sand and allow trucks to slow down safely without causing accidents. They are crucial on steep downhill grades where brakes may overheat and fail.
towing vehicle
"And no matter how well a vehicle is engineered for the race track, it's not engineered to stop 8,000 pounds way pushing on its buck down hill exactly."
A towing vehicle is a car or truck that pulls a trailer. It needs to be strong enough to handle the weight of whatever it's towing.
A towing vehicle is any vehicle that is designed to pull a trailer or another vehicle. It must have sufficient power and braking capability to safely manage the weight of the load being towed.
California towing laws
"And so I think the first question that you need to ask yourself is does it have a break controller because without that you're by law, especially in California, you are limited to only 3,000 pounds in the police will check."
California has rules about how much weight you can tow and what equipment you need, like a brake controller. Knowing these rules helps you tow safely and legally.
California has specific laws regarding towing, including weight limits and the requirement for a brake controller when towing certain weights. Understanding these laws is essential for safe and legal towing.
downshift
"...the transmission will help you downshift and actually get a lower gear higher RPM on the downhill and try to bring it down you know slow it down but..."
Downshifting means changing to a lower gear in the car, which makes the engine work harder and helps slow the car down, especially when going downhill.
Downshifting is the process of shifting to a lower gear in a vehicle's transmission, which increases the engine's RPM and can help slow the vehicle down, especially on downhill slopes.
exhaust brake
"...we'll talk about exhaust brakes when we get to the full size or heavy duty trucks depending on where we're at..."
An exhaust brake helps slow down big trucks by using the engine's exhaust to create pressure, making it easier to control speed without using the regular brakes.
An exhaust brake is a device used in heavy-duty vehicles that uses the engine's exhaust to create back pressure, which helps slow down the vehicle without using the traditional brake system, especially useful when towing or going downhill.
U-Haul
"...I would not recommend you haul for this, even though I love you haul, but they will probably use some sort of wood screws and drill into your dash..."
U-Haul is a company that rents out trucks and trailers to help people move their belongings from one place to another.
U-Haul is a well-known company that provides rental trucks, trailers, and storage services, often used for moving and transporting goods.
yaw sensor
"...it's kind of like a yaw sensor. Yeah, but kind of a yaw sensor and also it gets the information from the trailer wires..."
A yaw sensor helps detect how much a car is turning. It helps keep the car stable, especially when going around corners.
A yaw sensor measures the rotation of a vehicle around its vertical axis. This information is crucial for stability control systems and helps improve vehicle handling during turns.
trailer brakes
"...it activates the brakes manually, so if you need to manually activate them, slowly start to prime brake pressure to the trailer..."
Trailer brakes are the brakes that are built into a trailer. They help the trailer stop when the car or truck it's attached to slows down, making it safer to tow heavy things.
Trailer brakes are braking systems specifically designed for trailers. They help ensure that the trailer stops effectively when the towing vehicle brakes, which is crucial for safety, especially with heavy loads.
brake gain
"...you want to set that so that the wheels, this is very simplistic, but so that the trailer wheels don't lock up..."
Brake gain is how strong the brakes work when you press the brake pedal. It's important to set it right so the trailer doesn't stop too suddenly or too slowly.
Brake gain refers to the sensitivity of the brake controller in a towing setup, determining how much braking force is applied when the brakes are activated. Proper adjustment is crucial to avoid locking up the trailer wheels or providing insufficient braking force.
GMC Sierra 1500
"...this is a GMC Sierra 1500, basically, you know, I have a CDL..."
The GMC Sierra 1500 is a big truck that can carry heavy loads and is used for many tasks, like towing and hauling. It's known for being strong and comfortable to drive.
The GMC Sierra 1500 is a full-size pickup truck known for its versatility, capability, and comfort. It's often used for both personal and commercial purposes, making it a popular choice among truck enthusiasts.
Gmc Sierra
"[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna emergency because you don't want to jackknife You can also set the brake gain and what the brake gain is is just how hard The brakes are gonna break when you activate the vehicles brakes [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, and you want to set that so that the wheels, this is very simplistic, but so that the trailer wheels don't lock up Yeah, but at the same time they're not, you're not having it so soft that they don't actually provide much breaking Exactly, and you test this, actually our producer called just pulled up one of the images here on the screen This was from our recent iGountlet that we're doing a competition between half time trucks [SPEAKER_00]: And you're seeing Joel Motors, this is a GMC, Sierra 1500, basically, you know, I have a CDL, so what they teach us at the beginning, I'm sorry, we should, well, I don't want to commercial drivers license, commercial drivers license, yeah, and you, what basically, you can do I big rigs. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but what we teach in school for commercial driver drivers is that there is a pre-trip inspection."
The GMC Sierra EV is a new electric truck that doesn’t use gas. It’s made to be powerful and has lots of space inside.
The GMC Sierra EV is an all-electric version of the popular Sierra pickup truck, designed to offer a sustainable alternative without sacrificing performance. It features advanced technology and a spacious interior.
pre-trip inspection
"...what we teach in school for commercial driver drivers is that there is a pre-trip inspection..."
A pre-trip inspection is when you check your vehicle to make sure everything is working well before you start driving. It's especially important for big trucks to keep everyone safe.
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough check of a vehicle's systems and components before starting a journey, especially important for commercial drivers. It ensures that everything is functioning properly to prevent accidents or breakdowns.
hitch receiver
"And I think this is an important thing to add here, just because you have a hitch receiver,"
A hitch receiver is a part on the back of a vehicle that lets you attach a trailer. It's like a connector that helps your car pull something heavy behind it.
A hitch receiver is a component attached to a vehicle that allows it to tow a trailer. It provides a mounting point for a hitch, which connects the vehicle to the trailer.
seven pin plug
"...just because you have a hitch receiver, and just because you have a seven pin plug in your vehicle doesn't mean that you have a brake controller."
A seven pin plug is a special connector that links your car to a trailer. It helps the lights on the trailer work and can also control the trailer's brakes if you have the right equipment.
A seven pin plug is a type of electrical connector used in towing setups. It connects the towing vehicle to the trailer, allowing for the transfer of power for lights and brakes.
12 volt connector
"...basically using a 12 volt connector or outlet inside of your cab of your vehicle. You're powering this handheld device and that that transmits a signal to the box that's in the back..."
A 12 volt connector is like a power outlet in your car that you can use to plug in devices, similar to how you would plug in a phone charger at home.
A 12 volt connector is a power outlet commonly found in vehicles, used to power various devices and accessories. It typically provides a standard voltage for charging or operating electronic devices.
hydraulic brakes
"...there is another solution and that is hydraulic brakes."
Hydraulic brakes are a type of braking system that uses liquid to help stop the car. When you press the brake pedal, it pushes fluid through pipes to the brakes, making them work better.
Hydraulic brakes use fluid to transmit force from the brake pedal to the brake pads, allowing for more effective stopping power. This system is commonly used in modern vehicles due to its reliability and efficiency.
surge brakes
"And you sometimes refer to surge brakes. So explain those because you have a boat and a lot of boat trailers are surge brakes. And you can forego a trailer, a hitch connector, a trailer brake controller if you have a surge brake."
Surge brakes help slow down a trailer when the vehicle is braking. They work by using the weight of the trailer to push a part that activates the brakes, making it easier to stop without extra controls.
Surge brakes are a type of trailer braking system that automatically engages when the towing vehicle slows down. They use the momentum of the trailer to push a piston, which activates the brakes without the need for a separate brake controller.
Bmw 5
"I have a BMW 5 series sedan and I pull 5,000 pounds with it, like every other week."
The BMW 5 Series is a luxury car made by BMW, which is known for being comfortable and high-performing.
The BMW 5 Series is a line of executive cars produced by BMW, known for their luxury, performance, and advanced technology features.
BMW Series Bmw
"...y're like, whoa, dude. [SPEAKER_00]: You have a 5 series BMW, he's like, yeah, no problem. [SPEAKER_00]: You k..."
The BMW 7 Series is a fancy car that has a lot of high-tech features and is very comfortable to drive. It’s considered one of the best luxury cars.
The BMW 7 Series is a luxury sedan that represents the brand's flagship model, known for its advanced technology, performance, and opulent features. It is often discussed for its status and innovation in the luxury car segment.
speed limit
"...there's always signs that say how fast you can go if you're towing, and usually let's say the speed limit in kilometers is 80 or something like that."
The speed limit is the fastest you are allowed to drive on a road. It helps keep everyone safe by preventing cars from going too fast.
The speed limit is the maximum legal speed that a vehicle can travel on a particular stretch of road. It varies by location and type of road.
Toyota Tacoma
"Well, if you're Tacoma, you could have like 1,200 pounds of payload, and maybe 1,000 pounds of payload."
The Toyota Tacoma is a popular truck that can handle tough jobs and off-road adventures. It can carry a lot of weight in its bed, which is useful for transporting items.
The Toyota Tacoma is a mid-sized pickup truck known for its off-road capability and reliability. It offers various payload capacities depending on the configuration and model year.
squatting
"And it starts squatting."
Squatting happens when the back of a truck lowers down because it's carrying too much weight. This can make the truck harder to control, so it's something to watch out for when towing.
Squatting refers to the rear end of a vehicle lowering when it is loaded, particularly when towing a trailer. This can affect handling and stability, making it important to consider weight distribution and towing capacity.
payload
"...it takes away 500 pounds of your payload. So if it's me, you and the trailer in Tacoma, that's it."
Payload is how much weight a vehicle can safely carry, including people and stuff. It's important to know this when towing something like a trailer.
Payload refers to the maximum weight that a vehicle can carry, including passengers and cargo. In this context, it highlights the importance of understanding weight limits when towing a trailer.
Ram 3500
"... overheat a case And I actually did this in a ram 3500 truck You were showing a clip of this right now [..."
The Ram 3500 is a big truck made for heavy work, like towing trailers. It’s built to be very strong and can handle tough jobs.
The Ram 3500 is a heavy-duty pickup truck designed for serious towing and hauling capabilities. It is often discussed for its powerful engine options and robust construction.
Ford F150
"[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they probably have cooling because these are very high horse power, but their transmissions I wonder. [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if they have like transmission coolers, but I listened well, I listen every week, but I listened to what they were saying and somebody recommended an F-150 hybrid to them. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay."
The Ford F-150 is a big truck that people often use for work or to haul things. It's popular because it's tough and can handle a lot of different tasks.
The Ford F-150 is a full-size pickup truck known for its durability, versatility, and strong performance. It has been one of the best-selling vehicles in the United States for decades, making it a significant player in the automotive market.
Toyota Land Cruiser
"...m Friday when we, uh, [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, a land cruiser is a big chunk of a vehicle. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, ..."
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a big SUV that can go off-road and is known for lasting a long time. People like it because it's tough and can handle rough conditions.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a large, luxury SUV renowned for its off-road capabilities and reliability. It has a long history and is often discussed for its durability and ability to handle tough terrains.
Chevrolet Silverado
"...R_00]: This is my person. [SPEAKER_01]: We have a silverado. [SPEAKER_01]: And the women of hitches are nice ..."
The Chevrolet Silverado is another large truck that many people use for work or recreation. It's liked for its ability to carry heavy loads and its comfortable ride.
The Chevrolet Silverado is a full-size pickup truck that competes directly with the Ford F-150. It's known for its strong towing capacity, comfortable interior, and a wide range of configurations to suit different needs.
Land Defenders
"...first of all, it's not sticking out very far past defenders, which is illegal, actually. [SPEAKER_00]: And al..."
The Land Rover Defender is a strong, stylish SUV that can drive on rough roads and trails. It's popular among people who love adventure and want a vehicle that looks good too.
The Land Rover Defender is an iconic off-road vehicle known for its rugged design and exceptional off-road performance. It has a loyal following and is often discussed for its blend of luxury and capability.
Dodge Power Wagon
"...ecause Ford is very competitive to the new diesel power wagon. [SPEAKER_01]: So as you know, Ram just came out ..."
The Dodge Power Wagon is a tough truck that can handle rough roads and heavy loads. It’s popular with people who like to go off-road.
The Dodge Power Wagon is a heavy-duty pickup truck known for its off-road capabilities and rugged design. It has a strong following among enthusiasts who appreciate its blend of power and functionality.
Dodge Ram
"...diesel power wagon. [SPEAKER_01]: So as you know, Ram just came out with finally the thing that people ..."
The Dodge Ram is a big truck that’s good for heavy work and driving comfortably. It’s popular among people who need a reliable vehicle for tough jobs.
The Dodge Ram, now known as Ram Trucks, is a full-size pickup known for its powerful engines and comfortable ride. It has gained a reputation for being a strong competitor in the truck market.
Chevrolet Trax
"... reviews. [SPEAKER_00]: I currently own he owns a TRAX REM TRAX 2021. [SPEAKER_00]: So the original one ..."
The Chevrolet Trax is a small SUV that’s easy to drive and park in the city. It’s a good choice if you want something that’s not too big but still has space inside.
The Chevrolet Trax is a subcompact SUV that offers a practical solution for urban driving with its small size and efficient fuel economy. It's often discussed for its affordability and versatility.
Ford Flex
"...work truck is pretty ballsy. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a flex. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, congrats to you, my man."
The Ford Flex is a roomy SUV that looks a bit different from other SUVs. It’s great for families because it has lots of space inside.
The Ford Flex is a unique crossover SUV known for its boxy shape and spacious interior. It offers a comfortable ride and is often discussed for its family-friendly features.
Hyundai Santa Cruz
"... only two compact trucks right now. [SPEAKER_01]: Santa Cruz and of course, the Maverick. [SPEAKER_01]: And we..."
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a small truck that’s easy to drive and has a bed to carry things. It’s a good option if you want something that’s not too big but still useful.
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a compact pickup truck that blends the features of an SUV with the utility of a truck bed. It's designed for those who want versatility in a smaller package.
Ford Maverick
"... now. [SPEAKER_01]: Santa Cruz and of course, the Maverick. [SPEAKER_01]: And we have told with both, well, ..."
The Ford Maverick is a smaller truck that’s easy to drive and park, perfect for city life. It's affordable and even has a version that saves on gas.
The Ford Maverick is a compact pickup truck that offers a blend of utility and efficiency, making it a popular choice for urban dwellers. It stands out for its affordability and hybrid option, appealing to those looking for a practical vehicle.
Toyota Tundra
"... Yeah, the Ford Maverick has more payload than my tundra This is Last generation yeah, I know that's how S..."
The Toyota Tundra is a big truck that people use for heavy jobs like towing trailers. It's known to last a long time and is built tough.
The Toyota Tundra is a full-size pickup truck known for its reliability and strong performance, particularly in towing and hauling. It has a reputation for longevity and is often discussed for its robust build quality.
Ford Ranger
"...ich are four-cylinder turbos, to like the Raptor, Ranger, which has a six-cylinder turbo, there's just thi..."
The Ford Ranger is a smaller truck that can still do a lot of heavy lifting. It's a good choice if you want something that’s not too big but still strong.
The Ford Ranger is a mid-size pickup truck that combines capability with efficiency, making it a popular choice for those who need a truck without the bulk of a full-size model. It offers good towing capacity and off-road options.
Jeep Gladiator
"...in other words does the vehicle like remember the gladiator the thing that kept the gladiator from towing a l..."
The Jeep Gladiator is a truck that can go off-road like a Jeep. It’s great for people who want to explore tough trails and still have space to carry things.
The Jeep Gladiator is a unique pickup truck that combines the off-road capabilities of a Jeep with the utility of a truck bed. It's designed for adventure enthusiasts who want to tackle rugged terrains.
Ford F-150 Lightning
"...e a like a smooth easy to in truck get yourself a lightning or get yourself a Chevy Sorado EV or Giscia or ge..."
The Ford F-150 Lightning is an electric truck that doesn’t use gas. It’s designed to be powerful and has lots of modern features.
The Ford F-150 Lightning is the all-electric version of the popular F-150 pickup truck, offering a sustainable alternative with impressive power and technology. It aims to redefine what a truck can be in the electric vehicle market.
Tesla Cybertruck
"...tested basically everything, right, including the cybertruck and the hummer and everything else. [SPEAKER_00]:..."
The Tesla Cybertruck is a new electric truck that looks very different from regular trucks. It's powered by electricity, which means it doesn't need gas.
The Tesla Cybertruck is an all-electric pickup truck known for its futuristic design and advanced technology. It aims to disrupt the traditional truck market with its unique features and sustainable powertrain.
Chevrolet Suburban
"...lates in their all trucks and their all trucks or suburbans 25% of trucks are sold in all trucks and I have [..."
The Chevrolet Suburban is a big SUV that can fit a lot of people and their stuff. It's great for families and long trips.
The Chevrolet Suburban is a large SUV known for its spacious interior and strong towing capacity, making it a favorite for families and those needing extra room. It has a long history and is often discussed for its versatility and comfort.
Audi Allroad
"[SPEAKER_01]: It's meant to stop an 80,000 pound truck that's out of control. [SPEAKER_01]: I can take a look, still even though they're expensive, they still provide the most all-weather capability, the most all-road capability, the most comfort. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, my daily is always either gonna be a truck or some kind of a truck-based SUV."
The Audi Allroad is a fancy car that can drive on different types of roads, including rough ones. It’s comfortable and has a lot of nice features.
The Audi Allroad is a luxury wagon that combines the practicality of a station wagon with off-road capabilities. It's known for its high-quality interior and advanced technology.
Renault Wind
"..., if you're in the mountains and there's a big, a wind blowing, you're gonna start having issues. [SPEAK..."
The Renault Wind is a small car that can turn into a convertible, meaning you can drive it with the top down. It’s fun for sunny days.
The Renault Wind is a compact convertible sports car known for its unique design and fun driving experience. It appeals to those looking for an affordable open-top vehicle.
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