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It brings a trailer podcast.

Just BS-ing.

There's so much that you've done, including recent return from Europe.

Are you keeping track?

How many times have you been in Europe this year?

This year is actually lighter than last year.

Last year was a big build out, right?

Because we built out the whole infrastructure on the site for different currencies, different

geographies, different tax schemes, governmental tax schemes, European spectacle, I love taxes.

And then, yeah, different sorts of things to make it so you can buy and sell on BAT.

But yeah, so 24, I was over there six times, and this year, two or three, no, gosh, it

feels like more than that.

Not that many.

I think this was either the third or the fourth.

We've been having more fun this year, too.

You've been doing like, it's not as much biz dev, I mean, you did that amazing drive with

your dad.

You've been doing fun stuff on this one, yeah, for sure.

So anyway, yeah, we can talk about being in the UK.

We can talk about things going on on BAT.

There's plenty of them, that Corvette's success story, you and I could fill 40 minutes

with that.

Well, I think I got primed by those C1s that were at Road America, you know, of course.

No, of course.

And now I'm just like in with this thing came up, and obviously I thought of you like

immediately.

I was like, oh my goodness, this person just flew in and drove home, a C1 with Rattie

paint.

Did you see what he said he's going to do with it?

No, I didn't see.

I drove Route 66.

I'll be the article.

Okay.

He says he's going to run it in the La Carrera.

I mean, he says he's going to like build the car and do stuff.

And I think he's it's like on a YouTube channel or something like the owner's like has

plans.

I saw that plans are a foot.

There were comments saying we need to follow the ongoing journey, so that must be about

they're talking about.

Yes.

We're talking about a bringing trailer success story, a C1 Corvette that a guy drove almost

a thousand miles back, including some Route 66, which obviously got my juices flowing.

Yep.

Because he picked it up in Springfield, Missouri, he drove for some of that and he was headed

towards Pennsylvania.

I was trying to kind of sus it out, but I just love it.

You're about to break out a map.

I know the car.

I love the car.

I picked a killer killer car to do it with.

So 55, no, there could have been, were there, there were six cylinder Corvettes in the

La Carrera were there?

Maybe somebody ran one if they were a, you know, suicidal.

55 is the last year of the Carrera, right?

Am I right about that?

Did it go to 56?

I don't know.

Who's Lincoln's that they were running?

Those are like 50, like, these, I think some of them were later, right?

Okay.

So maybe while I should look it up, I can look up what the last year of the Carrera Pan

Americana was, but I've never seen a Corvette Carrera car, which is interesting.

Yeah.

Actually, I haven't either.

They're always weird sedans.

1954 was the last year.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

So you could have only had a six cylinder Corvette.

Wow.

If you did it, which is interesting, I think those Lincoln two doors that they ran down

there are so cool.

I still really like to do that event.

I mean, I was in the UK and I, I mentioned Carrera to somebody and they like lit up there

like that's like the dream event.

That's interesting.

It's kind of agro though.

That's the thing that always makes me nervous.

It's agro.

It's like people perish.

You know, I mean, it's like meeting every time I see one of the cars.

I'm like, that's the beefiest roll cage I've ever seen.

It's like double bars.

They won't save you.

It's kind of, you can build the best roll bar, you know, this side of Durango and you're

not going to, you're not going to save your life.

It's either your time, it's your not your time on that event.

Oh, man.

Watching our buddy Mike getting in out of the studio baker, I'm like, it's like getting

into an Apollo spacecraft, you know, the way you have to crawl in and they like screw

the out show.

Yeah.

The outcome is either really great or really not great, you know, man, but what a cool,

what a cool event.

I haven't been down there in a long time.

I would love, I would kind of love to do it.

He's like, we should do it together and I was like, I don't know if I'm ever going to

do that.

I'm sort of terrifying, but it would be fun.

The patina on that car, the stance, the red steel wheels.

It's a 59 C1 with a hard top.

It's just like a perfection.

What's the username on the guy?

J-mast.

It's got a 327 in it too.

What year?

What year car?

59.

Yeah.

So, I mean, it's not even my favorite year of those, but that one because it's got color

matched deals with no caps and stuff.

And also the cove is the same color as the rest of the body, which I actually like.

I like non-contrasting.

One color.

And hard top.

I mean, steel wheels and hard top, that car wins.

I think the reason I like it is it looks like that ratty one that was at Road America.

I mean, it looks like hand paint some numbers on the doors.

Correct.

Right?

Correct.

So, anyway, I'm a fan of people who'd fly in and drive their BAT purchase home and

then I'm even more of a fan of people do it in a 50s car and even more of a fan of

people who do it in a steel wheeled vet.

Yes.

Like the guy shot to the top of my list.

Totally.

I love that you saw it.

I thought of you first when I saw that car and I hope people are fired up about success

stories.

I think success stories are so cool and have been ever since the early days.

And it's sort of the rest of the story, right?

This is the rest of the story on what you get when something is marked sold and then

it like fulfills some dream for some cool BAT user out there.

I almost want to buy cars just to drive them back.

Like I'm really a damn about to do it.

You live this.

I'm about to do it.

I mean, you lived it multiple times.

And you're about to do it in a major way.

I'm semi nervous about it.

The seller is actually a local partner is another BAT car.

Not to jinx you, but like as long as it doesn't like burn to the ground or you crash it

or something like worst case, you put it on a flatbed and it was an experience.

And it's long as everybody's safe and you get home and it goes to a repair shop, you know?

But yeah, I mean, you don't want to you don't want some crazy scenario.

But I mean of all the scenarios trying to drive it home through relatively stable

jurisdictions like Eastern Western.

We're doing the whole width of taxes, which will be interesting, man.

It's a stable jurisdiction.

It's totally, I mean, whatever triple A, whoever people yeah, we're going to be on freeways.

My 15 year old probably going to hate it.

I heard what your 15 year old was up to, which is crazy.

And like so my 15 year old who is on his screens, he needs, he needs some wide open

Texas highways to clear the head.

I think we're going to have fun totally through the iPad out the sun roof

and then just like cruise.

I'm going to drive into some boring museums.

We're definitely already sun.

This is a cactus.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I clear I cleared petroleum museum with them.

He's thumbs up.

So we will, we will visit the shopper else.

I think that only takes about 20 minutes.

You're still crashing me that you and your lifetime are beating me to the petroleum museum

in mid to I would like to see some drill bits too.

I that that Felix may draw, okay, that may be a little dull.

I'd rather see the race cars myself and the high wings, the wings don't you lump

your head on thousand percent, thousand percent.

Well, you had some cool experiences in the UK while you were out.

Well, actually, you were here in the office when we recorded our bullet podcast.

That got I think the most comments we've ever gotten.

Is that right?

Post, right.

And then you saw a movie in the UK, which like is on my very short list to you next.

And I believe was suggested by quite a few listeners of the pod, which is Grom pre.

And I think I didn't form a lot of movies of the era.

So I went to England and I spent some time with some friends out there and some BET folks

out there doing car stuff and motorsport magazine.

You familiar with motorsport magazine, right?

The green, massed head.

Absolutely.

They're super cool.

They've always had a terrific magazine.

And they were for whatever reason, apparently kind of for the first time.

This was a new enterprise.

They rented out a historic theater in London and they played Grom pre so cool, the 66 film.

Was it on film or was it digital?

It was very delightfully crisp and clear and the sound was perfect and it was sharp

imagery and stuff.

I don't know if it's been remastered or if this was a moment in time where they chose that

movie for a reason.

But it was killer in the theater, like killer, 10 out of 10.

The sound was crazy.

I hadn't seen it before.

I don't know if I saw it all the way through.

So it's like three hours long.

I don't know.

It's Frankenheimer.

It was James Garner.

Well Garner's the lead.

Yeah.

He's got him as F1 driver, like kind of ups and downs.

Is he like a newcomer or is he like a middle of the pack guy?

He's been around.

He's been around, but he's still holding on, right?

He's not quite sunny haze, but he's, but he's, that's where I was God charming and everybody

knows him.

He's kind of trying to get back to Ferrari, but they don't want him.

It's one of the, but he's the American, right?

And the French guy is leading the pack and anyway, I could, I don't know enough to like

name drop all the actors and stuff, but I know enough to name drop all the racers who

were in it.

Okay.

You know her.

Well, she, and she's alive still.

I looked up.

She's 103.

She's North Point Northwest is what I know her from.

She's like the leading beauty in that.

That's right.

And then I saw once in high school because it's like the thing you've got to see, right?

And I just remember Garner and I remember the Honda, the Honda storyline, which you said

is not Honda.

It's not branded Honda.

It's branded as another like, like Japanese industrialist who's there and they're like

dub over the way he talks and there's like a bunch of crazy 60s cultural moments in the

movie.

Some of them are questionable now with 50 years of hindsight, but in general, it sits

pretty well.

And I mean, the French drivers and the Italian drivers and the crashes and the actual

footage, right?

I mean, it's very similar to how they've, they've done some of these other movies around

racing where it's like they were there for the actual 66 GP and Monica were like showing

overhead footage.

And then they somehow drop in these other race cars with cameras all over them that go flying

and crashing instead, right?

Even if the race was clean.

So man, it was super cool.

A huge shout out to Motorsport Magazine for putting that on.

And yeah, we paid, I think it was 50 bucks or something to go.

How did you get to invite?

Do you know somebody there?

You just dropped it.

Yeah.

They had some way to sign up for it.

This big theater was like two thirds full.

So I don't think it was like sold out and they wouldn't let people come.

I think they were looking for more and more people to come.

They had a Q&A before it.

David Brabham was there, his dad, his dad Jack, obviously was in the movie and he did

a Q&A before it and he looks exactly like his dad does, right?

So he's sitting there like talking about it and he's won the moment.

Yeah.

And there's no Brabham.

He's probably still running whatever the descendant company is, right?

Or is it owned by somebody else?

I don't know if it has happened.

Okay.

I mean, they're QIs or Aussies or something, right?

They're forget where they're from.

But anyway, he was there and he's talking and it kind of gives you a cool insight into it.

So they made it more of an event than just like whatever, come watch a movie.

There was kind of a little more buzz around it.

And it was a weeknight in London at this random theater that we walked across town to go

get to.

So that was fascinating and interesting and sort of car culture moment and I mean, a great

film.

This whole podcast could be dissecting the film if you wanted it to be, but we'll probably

save that.

We're going to do that.

Yeah.

But there is serious 66 Hertz Shelby Mustang footage that's Carter's driver in Europe.

No kidding.

And like the pretty girl gets in the car and they're driving through the mountains in

the Hertz Shelby.

It was a moment.

It's black old.

Of course.

Okay.

California plates.

Shoot.

Anyway.

That car exists.

And I think it might still be in Europe because I went searching for it.

Of course.

It has that car now.

Yeah.

Because that's a cool car to have.

Garner's Hertz Shelby.

But yeah, he pulls into the paddock in this classic scene and like the crowd parts around

him.

It's a really reminiscent of Le Mans of that movie.

Totally.

It's super similar.

How they mounted up cameras on cars and stuff.

The footage from on car around the circuits, I thought was super impressive and fun to

watch.

So anyway.

Shout out for that.

Go far enough.

Yeah.

Go watch that online wherever tonight.

And we'll do a little dissection of that in a future podcast.

But that was one of the nights.

Yeah.

I was over there for a week.

There's a bunch of people that want to use BET over there, which is incredible.

And we want to bring it to them and let more of them use it.

But it's a different market over there than it is in the US and different types of cars

and different types of needs and competitive landscapes.

So anyway, we're doing some fun things over there.

American and UK planning your cross channel invasion.

You went and saw a show.

You were talking a reliant Symmetars.

Oh, where did you run into Symmetars?

So we went to a show called the NEC Classic Car Show or something similar to that grouping

of words.

And Birmingham, a couple hours outside of London and they do these like RetroMobile

doesn't right?

We've talked about RetroMobile on the podcast a bunch.

America doesn't really have these like in a convention hall classic car show.

I mean, we have Syma, which is like a circus adjacent, you know, it's crazy.

But we don't have one that's just like focused on classic cars.

They've always had that whether it's due to weather or whatever long winters or whatever

all the countries in Europe seem to have these indoor shows.

Anyway, we went to one wanted just to see and take a temperature and ask people how the

markets doing.

We had an auction there iconic auctioneers was there and Metcalf was there.

He was selling a couple of his cars.

People know him from YouTube.

I love Harry.

He was there.

I saw him.

Did you get to meet him?

I didn't meet him.

He was kind of cruising around.

I don't know if he knows who I am or would have cared.

There was a bunch of people kind of.

He's a fan though.

He got up there.

He gave him a high five.

But he was selling on a spotter there and a cold jacks or something.

Anyway, he had some cars for sale.

He does work with that auction house.

But yeah, 10 auction, right?

I mean, he is what it is.

But they had a bunch of cars parked there.

So we got to see what they were selling.

A lot of individual dealers, a lot of vendors, a lot of car clubs, right?

Totally.

Esoteric, weird makes and clubs, right?

Sounds like retro wheel.

It is.

But at retro wheel, there were some higher end dealers and there were like manufacturers

remember Renew?

Oh, dude.

That's like the huge power of all their new cars and all the old cars.

I still think about the front wheel drive turbo Renault 5.

Yes.

So many cool things.

That one is like the granddaddy.

This one's got a little bit mellower and that's fine, right?

There was the Miata Club of GB, you know, and those people were totally cool and actually

they were way into BAT.

They were all BAT.

No kidding.

Yeah, yeah.

A colleague who was there talked to them and said they were maybe the most passionate about

BAT of anybody.

Right.

So we love that.

Right hand drive NA.

Totally.

The answer is always Miata, right?

So that was cool.

We have it.

Then there were some shiny or stuff.

But primarily through sort of mid-level private dealers.

Symmetars.

And there was a Symmetar Club.

I did some in-person inspection of Symmetars.

It was last time you saw more than one Symmetar in a location.

I've never, never been correct.

So that was for good.

What else were further?

There were a few models.

We thought, dude, man, here's one.

Be a badged, either like second-gen Honda Civic that was sold as a British car.

What?

I think it had Austin badging.

You're a Honda guy.

Oh my God.

And you don't even know this.

No.

Okay, so this is deep cut.

I was like, what the heck is that car?

That's a Civic.

But it's like got a different badge on it.

But the badge is shaped like the H badge.

Oh my gosh.

But they like put a sticker over it with something else.

But they love right hand drive, right Japan?

Right hand drive.

We got to figure out what that car actually was.

A lot of weird.

I was just talking to somebody about this.

Yes.

Oh, it was my dealer, buddy.

Shout out Jack from Henderson, Accura.

He loves Civic.

He's out of Civic Type R. And we were talking about the original Civic Type R, which you

can now import, which I've talked about getting, you know, like the 97 Type R, which was

right hand drive only.

And the only little place they sold it other than Japan was the UK.

There you go.

And the UK had a weirdo club sport version of it that my guy Jack didn't know about, which

has like the standard cloth interior and steel wheels, but it's still a Type R seem welded

and everything.

So the Brits get even weirder than the Japanese sometimes.

Yeah.

This car was weird.

I mean, you had like Google it right now.

I think it was in Austin.

I think it was Austin.

It wasn't a triumph.

But it's like late 70s, maybe early 80s Honda rebadge British, which just sounds like

the weirdest thing.

I mean, it's so funny.

It's probably a car worth all of 3,000 pounds right now, right?

But it's so rare for you to see what you've never seen one in my life, may never see one

again.

I think we took a photo of it, but maybe we didn't, maybe we can post it up with this

podcast.

Anyway, that was fascinating.

And what else did we see?

Yeah, just cool variants of rovers and just weird Brits stuff that you don't really get

to see here too often.

You didn't find it Google.

No evidence.

You know what the guy says?

No, the Honda Civic has not ever been rebadge for UK.

Yeah.

Wrong.

I have one piece of data that says that's in false.

There is like a, there is definitely wrong, wrong, anything else interesting to report

from over there?

So anyway, that was all killer.

We got to go to a bunch of cool car places and then got to actually got to go to Goodwood,

which was a major thing, which is always my favorite place.

And they have very low key events off season, sort of not the normal big events that we all

know about.

They're three big events a year are massive with grandstands.

I got to go there on a quiet day and they were running a track day.

And so it was like 250 bucks, 250 British bucks, great British pounded, stirling it, and

slide your card and got to a track day around the Goodwood circuit, which I've watched video

of and gone to the revival and hold in very high regard.

And they did a killer, killer job, 30 cars there and they only let eight out at a time

so you have like a clean track.

And I drove it in an old, again, Austin product, old British product, but people were there

in GT3 RS's and people were there in Morgan Trikes.

And it was like, just like it does for the revival.

It totally does.

Including that chicane with the, yes, that chicane was there.

Everything's kind of off camber, so it encourages you to kind of dance the car around.

It was pouring rain.

Whatever that being right handed sweeper is where you can always see the cars dancing through

it.

That's right.

Woodcoat.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, it would get in sliding around through there.

And I mean, I'm a total amateur.

I'm not a fast, you know, race car driver or anything, but getting to drive there and getting

to drive there in the wet.

And then it dried out in the afternoon and to get to have some fun friends over there

help put that together.

Couldn't not have done it by myself, but maybe you can't.

I mean, they try to make it so easy.

I think they have a calendar of these throughout the year, but I was lucky to get kind of a helping

hand from my buddy James over there.

We did really well.

I'm having some fun over there.

That was the motorsport event.

That was the good wood event that they then I went off with HUD and did any seed.

Anyway, a lot of a lot of fun car stuff.

What a treat and probably informs the way you watch that stuff once you've actually been

on a track.

Totally.

I think about it totally differently.

Absolutely.

And seeing the behind the scenes of like what it looks like when it's not a huge hot

event.

Every time I've been there, there's bridges over the roads and there's grandstands and

there's sponsors.

And this you just kind of, you know, there's no tracks.

You know how tracks are in.

Totally.

I'm rock park on a Tuesday.

Right.

You just kind of cruising in.

There's like five people there.

Totally.

The tunnel that is jam-packed full of people in costume and stuff in September, we like

drove the car through, which is like zoomed underneath the track.

So anyway, it was super slick, super fun.

Anyway, lots of hopefully forthcoming, interesting business and partnerships, you know, shout out

to local partners over there.

We're looking for more and more local partners to spin the flywheel up over there because

you go to these shows and it's just like, I tell you when we went to Bologna, do we

talk about that?

No, but I don't know.

That's what we all was like, God, these people need.

I'm like, gosh, right?

They're like, here we are.

We're back with the same cars as last year, you know, and you're like, what is the business

model?

I don't understand how the doors are.

Yeah.

What is going on?

And they're like, yeah, it's really slow.

It's really hard.

Here's like your answer, like solution, let's go and list some cars and get them moving.

So yeah, we'll see what happens in the market over there and what we can do over there.

We'd love to help people list more cars from that side of the landing.

The Honda Concerto is a car produced from 1988 to 1996, designed to aim at European

tastes.

It was jointly developed by Honda and the Austin Group.

Oh, interesting.

Okay.

That's not what it was.

I have a connection, but that car is too new.

But it must be.

That's the descendant.

But is there an earlier version?

Dude, you're close.

You're close.

Super close.

I don't have time to go to Wikipedia rabbit all right now, but we're close anyway.

Anyway, somebody in the audience owns one of those that is like jumping up and down, listening

to the podcast right now, saying, I know, I know the answer.

Yeah, they're not going to pull off the Austin sticker over the age totally.

We walked in and the wheels are the same Honda only wheels, dude.

And then the center cap said something else.

It was like, it was like, you know, those TV commercials where they, like,

don't have the rights to use the car.

So they like, yes.

Grey out the badging.

They just remove the Porsche press totally.

Dude, that's what the car felt like in the flesh.

That's the car.

Triumph acclaimed.

It's a triumph.

Okay, but dead wrong.

I had it wrong.

Gemini was dead wrong because there's a rebadged deal.

Yeah, Gemini is right.

You love.

You take some joy in improving Gemini.

It makes me so happy.

It's smarter than Gemini.

Anyway, you are.

That's the car.

And if they show the back of it, the back of it doesn't have civic tail lights.

So they left the whole front of the car.

But the back of the car doesn't.

What's it called?

The triumph acclaimed.

It's even like a Honda sounding name.

Yeah, but it's like a clamed.

A clamed.

Didn't they have the acclaimed?

Totally, but like Akira and Honda did that kind of stuff, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

Anyway, I saw one of those in the flesh.

One still exists.

If anyone out in podcast land can verify that more than one of those exist.

Look at the dumpy tail lights.

Totally.

It's total British car for the back.

The tail and, you know, just like a terrible whole.

Anyway, I love that this podcast is talking all about that car because that was just a crazy,

weird moment.

It felt like it was a prop from a movie that like wasn't allowed to be a Honda.

It's being of Grand Prix, where it's like not branded Honda.

Correct.

It was like, it's a Honda, but it's not allowed to be a Honda.

But aren't they like white with the rising sun on them?

Still, it's like the same livery.

Is it?

They're white.

Yeah, white.

Yeah.

And as I recall, the guy is like clearly supposed to be so Chiro Honda like that.

It's a lot of alignment there.

A lot of alignment.

A lot of overlap.

Anyway, great movie.

Great cars.

That's a triumph.

I love that.

I do.

I wonder was it at the triumph club booth?

I think that's where it was.

Because what else?

Oh, because they were totally showing off.

They're like, Cheris.

This is that long.

Check this.

I don't think they were showing off.

They don't know it much better than we do.

And they're like, it's not a good car.

Then why they have to be the most reliable triumph ever?

Totally.

Leanburn.

I don't know what it burns.

But it's a funny thing.

See day.

Anyway, great stuff.

Hopefully we're relaying the interest of that valuable information without seeing that photo.

But you were in the dark until you saw that photo with no idea.

No idea.

What else do you have to report?

We can talk about the website.

I haven't done anything exciting.

I'm about to do something exciting.

Are you going to set out of the back?

Or are you talking about that year before?

I just feel like I've talked about it too much.

Are you showing off and saying what you're driving?

Or is that all?

No.

I don't know if I've talked about it before.

Let me make sure it doesn't burn up or end up on the back of a flat bed.

Then we can report on all.

It's about a 50-50 there.

Yeah.

I think so.

It's restored.

It should make it.

How many miles?

Needs to go?

3000.

3000 to get her home.

It'll be the longest I've ever done.

What's the longest road trip?

Have you ever driven coast to coast?

I have driven most of it but in different pieces.

I've never like cannonballed it.

Like shot it all the way.

What's the longest you've gone on like a committed trip?

I mean, you did a lot in Europe this year.

Yeah, but that's like always driving around in circles.

Yeah.

So it's a little hard to measure.

The point to point, the crazy part about driving across the US is like you just shoot it.

One direction is lost.

Like for days.

Totally.

It's so cool.

They actually don't have that over there, right?

I mean, there's not enough.

That's what I mean.

So it's like the march from Moscow to Napoleon, the retreat back to Paris.

Totally.

So anyway, I've done whatever.

I've done a couple days at a time shooting it, but I've never done all the way across.

I didn't occur to me till just now.

It's been the longest.

I've never done.

But I'm taking breaks.

Like the family is going to meet us and Scott still for Thanksgiving.

My parents are going to come out in the whole family.

So we'll have a break two thirds of the way across.

So strong.

Yeah, it'll be fun.

It'll be a podcast.

That'll be a podcast.

That'll be a podcast for the future.

Yeah.

Watching that temp needle.

Did you drive across?

Totally.

Oil pressure.

Which gauge?

Here's a good question.

Which gauge are you going to watch the closest in the Italian car that you're driving across

the Southwest?

You just mentioned the two.

It's temp.

It's temp or temp and oil pressure.

Those are the two I'm going to be watching.

Those for sure.

They are.

And they're all over the place in that car.

There are various locations.

There's no primer reason to it.

They flicker.

Did they jump around at all?

I bet they do.

And I bet they're also.

I bet the ones that are the most vital for making sure you're not about to start a fire

are like hidden behind your hands or the steering wheel.

You know, around the non-adjustable column.

You need to mount a mirror to keep an eye on it.

It's totally non-adjustable.

Ask your passenger.

How's my temp?

Totally.

I don't know.

I don't smell fire yet.

I don't smell smoke.

That's going to be exciting.

On Monday, day before yesterday, I did 600 miles in a modern car that I bought for my wife.

Yeah.

And that was great.

And so that was a little bit of a test.

I'm not doing any legs that are 600.

The longest leg we have.

Plants of ours, 500.

Okay.

In a day.

Let's get out to the petroleum museum, buddy.

That's an out of the way.

There's not much out there.

If you're only doing 500 miles, that's like a couple days out of the way.

I mean, once you get past San Antonio and Dallas and everything, there's like not a lot out in West Texas.

It's like a room.

Madeleine, Dodessa.

Just fine by me.

I've never been out there.

Marfa is out there, which I thought about.

Zack's been there.

I've never been out there.

Yeah.

A little Southern New Mexico.

I've never done the 10.

I've never been across the bottom part of the country.

We're going to end up in Tucson.

Have you seen that?

Have I?

Maybe a lie.

I wonder if my dad took our family in the back of a W123 WAG when I was a kid.

Drove it to Dallas.

If we did, we would have driven through all of that stuff.

I'm sure.

You could, we drove to some crazy places in that car, but I don't know.

My mom grew up in Dallas.

I don't know if we ever drove to Dallas.

I think we always flew.

But if we drove, it would have been Southern route and it would have been all the way across.

There's the 40 that's like a couple hundred miles north of it.

They kind of run parallel and I've driven that forward.

That's like Route 66.

The 40 is basically where Route 66 is.

But the 10 is all the way down at the border.

It goes through like Las Cruces and all that stuff.

Totally.

My grandparents lived in Yuma.

Retend the Yuma.

Cool.

But here's a funny story.

So my mom drove a burgundy with tan interior Mercedes 300D WAG when I was a kid.

And her sister, my aunt, who lived in Big D, had the same car.

I don't know why these two brothers-in-law thought their sister-wife,

the same old Benz station wagon.

I have a picture in my mind of that car going across the southwest.

But I actually don't know if it was us or if I'm like mapping my reality on to like where my cousins dragged across the southwest to see us.

Or did we go see them?

Somebody was in a 1.3-year-old Texas twice.

One way, both directions.

But I'm not.

I'm like, did I live through that?

A lot of that era.

I mean, it's hard that all those trips run together.

But I'm going to have to text my dad right when we get off and be like,

did you ever drive us across Texas?

Because that's a crazy thing to do.

I don't know if he would have done it.

So maybe they did it to come see us.

But anyway, there was once upon a time a 300 Mercedes station wagon traffic

across where you are going to go.

You probably got six pictures of it.

What was the pick pulling back the curtain a little bit?

What was the pick of you with the land cruiser that was on the slide show today?

We did for staff.

That was a cool photo.

That was in Moab.

Okay.

That was in Moab, Circa, Oath, the Reeves.

I was going to say, you look like a kid in that picture.

Yeah.

I was a kid in that picture.

That was an 85 Land Cruiser FJ60 that I had.

By that point, it had a TBI V8 in it and a five speed and a lift and 33s

and a bunch of stuff.

I was like, my car that I drove to senior year of college and then blew up the engine

and my dad and I and my buddy Simon and some others put a V8 in it in my dad's garage

and continued to drive it around.

Simon, former auction special, Simon.

Oh, no kidding.

He's a great man.

I don't not sure I ever knew about that you had that truck.

Oh, yeah.

Did you see that?

I'm a pretty stubborn mountain view California from a guy named Pierre.

I mean, you can't make this stuff up.

I remember we bought it off a Craigslist, bought it for 6 grand.

It had 270,000 miles and it went about another 15 and then it blew the number 6 cylinder.

So it still had the six in it.

And it had the six.

It was all stock.

Okay.

And then I, you know, a standard.

I was 20 years old.

I'd lifted it and I.

Hell yeah.

Pop the motor out.

Body lift and nobody lifts.

Suspension lift.

Suspension, but then several iterations of suspension.

And yeah, but he's fabbed.

My buddy, Simon fabbed up up front bumper for it and suspension work and had a stereo and had the stereo stolen.

You know, you know, all of the stuff that one does.

Old man email.

What are the suspension?

No, it had.

I had a crazy patch together.

The email wasn't tall enough.

I wanted bigger tires.

The Aussies don't go for very big.

How big 35s, 37s?

I never got to that big.

I just got to 33s.

It could have fit 35s, which was the dream, but I didn't have any money.

Okay.

This will make people just terrified.

Like I sold it for 14.5 and I went and spent that money in about 30 seconds on a 356 for 15 grand.

That's the silver car.

Same money.

Straight across trade, FJ62, 356A.

That's an insane period in history where that's possible.

Yep.

And I got a huge premium on the truck.

The traffic 15 grand for an FJ60 back then was like, what happened?

How did you do that?

And the V8, I sold you a firefighter in San Diego or something.

This is for a long time on a bunch of forums and stuff.

This is way before BAT.

And that truck, I mean, a BAR, smog, legal V8, white, blue plate, FJ60.

I just was living in the city and didn't have room and wanted a sports car and all this sort of stuff.

So I got rid of that truck.

But not before we threw mountain bikes in and drove it to Moab and had some fun.

And not before, speaking of where you're going, drove that thing to Veil Colorado and then South to Santa Fe.

And like, I had that truck all over the place.

We went to some super cool spots down there and have this anyway.

That truck in Santa Fe is.

That's some good.

It was fantastic location.

It was fantastic.

It had to get repaired.

We had to go to like a dude a backyard welder in Santa Fe.

And like, we repaired this suspension because it was not up for the task of thousands of road miles.

And washboard and dirt roads and Moab and all that stuff.

So anyway, that truck is still like one of my sort of soft spots for cars that have gotten away.

I'm glad I shipped that one, but I'd love to have another one just like that.

That spec sounds perfect.

That's also like some Randy Car history that I didn't know about.

What was the V8 in it?

It was a 350 TBI injected V8 out of a caprice.

Wow.

Out of like a cop car.

Cop car, yeah.

Yeah, but they were still.

This is long before LS's.

And it was like an engine manufactured in like 92 throttle body.

And I had like no cash, right?

My dad helped kick in because I blew the engine in my truck.

I think I was still a senior in college or maybe just out like there was.

It was like, this was my daily transportation.

I was like borrowing his car until we could put a motor in this thing, which we did in his garage.

And my buddy George shout out to George at Valley Hybrids in Stockton, California,

who's like famous in the cruiser world now.

But in 99, he was a little bit less so, you know?

But I think he sold me that engine for 300 bucks running or something, right?

Was this a common swap?

And V8s were less common than they are now, but they were just as necessary then as they are now.

You know, blowing up the six cylinder and it would have cost probably four thousand bucks to put a new six in it.

And I didn't have that.

So I was like, let's V8 it.

And my dad was like, let's go for it.

And you kept the stock transmission?

I put it in an H55F, which was a five-speed with a overdrive, which was decadent, but cost three times as much as the engine.

Because it was new, I think.

And I get an Australian rebuilt one.

I don't know.

Anyway, that was rare back then, but those were all over the site now, right?

And you see these 100K FJ60 builds with LS's and stuff.

Like nobody had those.

Probably about a first six grand or 6500.

I felt lucky to have that truck at all.

And nobody had 60s back then.

No.

One buddy of mine in Palo Alto had one.

And that was it.

Like you'd see moms driving them around to the grocery store and stuff, right?

I mean, it wasn't on the cover of all these magazines you get.

And like in the Huckberry.

Don't like darkening.

You know what I mean?

None of that existed.

But I thought it was so cool.

And people at school, I was a senior in college.

People thought it was like super cool rig.

Like people love jumping in the lancers or in driving around.

But nobody had them.

And I had two at one time.

And FJ40 and that.

And then decided to sell the FJ60.

It's so interesting.

Because they were cool, but they were totally like the hand me down.

Like the Tahoe trucker or whatever.

My wife was just telling me an anecdote the other day.

She said she went to high school in Marin.

She was in Marin.

But she said they all had the, she's like,

they there was like a wooden paneled SUV.

I'm like, everybody had the trucker, the hand me down grand cherries

that had been used to go to the ski house or whatever.

Totally.

With a North Star sticker in the windows and all that.

Yeah, totally.

Totally.

And she's like, that's what a ton of the kids had.

That's what people drove in high school parking lots.

Yeah.

We all had old trucks.

But all that stuff is so desirable now.

But it wasn't back then.

It was like, give it to the kid.

It was so cool.

Those things were so cheap.

But yeah, I remember finding that one and tripping across it.

I remember pulling up first time I ever saw it, right?

Like we're in my dad's car.

And the lights were on.

We got went and saw it at night.

Never buy a car at night.

No.

Never.

But we went.

And I was like fell in love with the thing.

And we paid for it on the spot and drove it home.

Trying to figure out how to smog it.

Which was its own challenge.

Yikes.

How did you get the Bureau of Air Resources sticker on it?

Yes.

Easier to do that then.

Carve sticker?

No, just as much of a hassle.

You go to the referee and show him how you did everything right.

And you maintain the air pump.

And you did all this stuff.

That was another reason.

The engine had to be.

It was a California smog compliant engine.

Newer than the, you couldn't put an older than the truck engine.

Right.

So it was a 92 and the truck was an 85.

So there was a path toward maybe that complying.

And I never did get the AC working.

But we did get the smog certification.

I smog that truck a number of times.

And even though the engine probably had 300,000 miles on it.

Of course.

But I was old used cop engine.

I mean, you know salvage so much idle.

Oh my god.

I don't know how that thing is still made power.

But it did.

And I sold it on with the same engine and had I had money.

I would have loved to do a crate engine or something

but had to do it that way.

And this was years and years before people started getting creative

with like out-of-state plates to dodge smog and stuff.

Of course.

I was like, it had blue California plates on it,

which was part of the appeal.

So I kept them and I went through all the brain damage of going down

and having them certify it.

So you see those on VAT still.

Those white stickers with a barcode on them.

You know, bring warmth to my heart because I had to go earn more.

Well, for those of us editing old cars for VAT listings

are working through.

We love to see that.

Yeah.

Because it means it's legit.

Somebody didn't do a work around it.

Yeah.

Totally.

Yeah.

Paying their way through a smog or whatever.

No, that was a legit smog compliant.

60 swap.

So anyway.

Amazing.

Cool try.

I love that you shout that out.

I didn't know they even saw that.

But I put that up in a like VAT presentation to staff

or something and you're like, what the heck is that truck?

I'm a connoisseur of your lore.

So that was, it's always interesting to me when I know about what I didn't.

I mean, I don't know if you want to talk about it.

You got an interesting car sitting out in front right now too.

It's being of lore.

I've definitely talked about the predecessor to that car on this pod.

What?

The cruisers or the ones?

No, your dad's MGT.

There's some solid non-emberg family heritage out front.

I drove my son's 67MGBGT to the office today for the first time to show it to you guys.

And because I forgot to charge an EV overnight.

And when you do that.

You didn't reveal that or you were totally host.

Yeah, yeah.

So I started looking around.

Like it was there.

You know, there weren't a lot of obstacles.

Totally.

I was like, have I got to take the train?

Am I going to Uber?

You know, what am I going to do?

So I was like, jump in the BGT.

So anyway, I drove that thing up here.

Speaking of weird triumphs and British car lore.

Speaking of Cimitar.

Cimitar is like, I mean, the BGT is a better-looking car.

But they're both shooting for that.

I'm sure they'll use the same parts.

All of that stuff uses the same parts.

But no, it's fun to drive a British car.

We were just debating the merits and the functionality

of electric overdrive, which the car has,

which is a super neat thing.

Anyway, I don't know how much I've told the story of that car.

But yeah, my dad's first car was a BGT

that he borrowed some money to buy new on Vaness Avenue

in San Francisco when he was going to university.

And so my son, his grandson,

gets to have a similar car to learn how to drive stick on.

So we've been working on that.

So it's fun.

Anyway, but driving that to the office is super cool.

And we like bringing weird cars into the awesome parking here.

So you contribute to that.

I contribute to that.

And I think that's, yeah, I don't get out of bed in the morning.

Thinking about auctions.

I get out of bed in the morning thinking about cars.

So anyway, the fact that that runs through the team here yourself.

I mean, you're maybe at the top of that, dude.

But we have a lot of cars here.

I've got to give some of our junior staffers, younger staffers,

a ride in a 1930s car.

Totally.

Absolutely.

Or a British car.

Or whatever.

You seemed like you were stoked to drive that.

You sounded like it was legitimately fun to drive.

I love it.

Yeah.

I mean, it makes some people upset out there.

But I like driving it better than the low court.

I think it's a cooler driving position.

I mean, just the feel of it.

I thought it was super cool.

So anyway, I'm a huge fan.

And it looks cool.

And it's fun to drive a small sports car.

Totally.

You can't beat it.

And I like cars that are a little more attainable sometime right now.

I'm not a super car guy.

So to get in a BGT.

To get in a BGT and go drive it is like very fulfilling for me.

Like a bug I would be or like a TR4.

I've always wanted a TR4 with like a Surrey top.

I think those are so cool.

Like, anyway, there's a lot of interesting cars out there.

BGT has some roots.

Which I like.

And a good looking one.

It's very good looking.

It's so cool.

Look at it.

I love the tail lights.

I love the grill.

I love the steel dash.

You know, anyway.

So yeah, anyway, have some fun.

Man, we're just a schizophrenic in this conversation.

All of the map movie.

Now you've got me thinking about GT6.

A Triumph GT6.

It's the thing I always wanted to speak of cool.

And flying grill and my freshman dorm.

When I was in school.

I had a GT6.

And I drove at once.

And I was like, that's a cool.

I'm BGT.

Yes.

I think you have to kind of choose one camp.

BGT is better looking.

But the GT6.

You feature it.

You feature the GT6.

Baby blue.

The baby blue car with the mini lights.

I'm obsessed with that car.

I called it before you said.

Yes.

And it was parked like on a bridge.

Yes.

You remember that photo?

It's the best looking.

It's the best thing.

It's the best GT6 there's ever missed.

Correct.

Absolutely.

A buddy mine actually has one live.

How soon is this pod going live?

A tomorrow.

A buddy mine has a GT6 race car.

Oh, they make an interesting race car.

They did because Group 44 ran them and whatever else.

Oh, that's right.

Good.

You just texted me while we were in the meeting with the said

Land Cruiser photo and said my car is live.

I'm stoked.

Oh, it's got.

Yeah, this is a tribute to.

It's kind of a Group 44 tribute.

Yes, totally.

Bob Tilius or what was that dude's name?

These are good looking cars, man.

Anyway.

Because the Spitfire is good looking, but it's a little spindly.

Yes.

So the roof adds something to it.

Plus no six cylinder in a Spitfire.

Yes.

This is nice.

Yeah, that's a good.

Well, that's a full race car, I think.

But we list those all the time.

They look like an e-type with the clamshell up, which I love.

Yeah, the clamshells cool.

But I'm a BGT guy.

For sure.

Because of my dad.

And even a CGT.

I like those two.

Big, heavy motor in those, but I like them too.

I mean, BGT V8 with the Rover V8.

People like those.

I just like the purity of it.

Of course.

The first cylinder.

You can make tons of power out of those.

They raised those.

Yeah.

The Huff came out and he's like the Huffaker cars.

I can't keep up with them.

They're so fast.

Yeah.

BGTs.

That's true.

I didn't know your dad bought that car on VNS.

So, okay.

I love BATs, you know, in the wild story.

Okay.

Salesman and Henderson loved BAT.

Okay.

But yesterday I'm getting my teeth worked on.

And I'm like scrolling through Instagram in the chair, waiting for the horror yes.

Waiting on a bee.

On a bee.

No.

Wade better waiting for the horror show to begin.

You know scrolling through Instagram.

I've gone to this dentist for a while.

Dr. Louis practices with his daughter.

She's worked on my teeth before.

Dr.

Lewy shout out to you.

You're never going to listen to this podcast, but he walks and sneaks up on me.

I'd never met him before.

And I hear him say, whatcha looking at?

And he's kind of this quiet old Asian guy.

And I kind of explain cars.

I kind of explain cars and he asked a few very quiet questions.

I'm like, oh, there's no way this guy is in the cars.

Then I finally, I'm like, so are you in the cars?

And he's like, oh, yeah, I need to sell one.

Then I think, oh, god, I'm gonna have to sell this guy's Prius.

Or tell, we don't list Prius.

And he's like, no, 1977, 9-11, Targa,

bought it new.

He's the original owner on Vanness.

When he was a young dentist,

he's had all of his three kids in the back

like all this history.

And he has to sell it?

I said, dude, please don't.

It's red, tan, and factory air conditioning.

He's special-ordered at all these things.

The dentist rig.

Totally.

And he showed me a picture.

It still has the sugar scoop headlights on it and everything.

Of course, he's had to rebuild the engine.

I asked him about that.

I run this to rebuild those two sevens.

And he still gets it smogged every two years.

And I said, god, don't sell that, man.

You know, give it to one of your daughters.

Or something.

He's like, none of my kids want it.

It's a story we hear a lot.

He's like, they don't want it.

And he doesn't drive it that much anymore.

And I know he should buy it.

I kind of thought the same thing.

Wow.

Anyway, it's pretty cool.

I love B-A-T chance encounters like that.

Yeah.

The cars and old cars will take you everywhere, you know?

I had no idea.

Wow.

That's amazing.

Yeah, stories like that are super incredible.

And you have to just imagine that, dude, what year did you

say the car was?

70-70 about it.

It was really.

This year I was born.

I'm being born.

He's rolling in to Porsche, cars, San Francisco, or European

import, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Where all the car dealers were.

And he's been, he's total local, right?

He's just go.

He's like, I put a stupid stereo in it in the 80s.

He's like, but I still have the original blah punk

or whatever.

Amazing.

I love all that stuff.

I do, too.

Yeah.

So yeah, my dad bought it on Vanness at British Motor,

Importers, Distributors, Limited, whatever they were

called.

And the cool part, obviously, I want that car.

Like if I ever found my dad.

Six-digit black plates on that car, right?

I know the plate.

My dad knows it by heart.

You can ask him, what's the plate on your first car?

Obviously, he knows it.

But I've got pictures of that car.

And then this one was as close as I could find.

Also purchased on Vanness.

Also 67 green.

I just how I knew this car was meant to be.

It kind of found us.

People are like, is that a BAT car?

How'd you find that car?

I was like, it's just so close to my dad that I had to do it.

So the Heritage Certificate says sold on Vanness.

It's just so.

And it was in late 66 or 67.

Before my dad would have done his, I think.

Do you know your dad's chassis number?

Is it close to the chassis number?

I don't know chassis number.

We just know the black guy because we've

got the pictures, but we don't have a chassis number picture.

Nobody knew that back then.

But no, but this one's super, super close.

Bought at the same dealer, same scheme, same year,

all the same wire wheel option, overdrive option.

It's as close as you're going to get.

It's as close as any human is ever going to get.

So we found all that.

And that's part of the reason we jumped on this car.

But it's a fun one.

And put my dad in that car to drive,

like putting him in the driver's seat to teach his grandson

a little less than or two would be kind of a cool flashback.

So anyway, we'll see how all that goes.

But it's fun to drive it and have it in the ATZ orbit

up here with the staff with all their crazy cars

and have a good time.

Awesome, man.

What else should we hit?

I mean, there's just wild stuff on the website right now

and the team's doing a killer job.

It's just kind of wild to watch the appetite

that the market has for some of these cars.

We had some mega results like this week, like 10 and November.

We're selling tanks.

But yeah, I mean, whatever.

Sports cars, trucks, everything.

The weird carbon 993, that was a huge one.

I can't even think of what it's called.

Gunter Works, that was a big sale.

Million bucks, yeah.

It ruined the 993, which I just looked because now

everything sells for a 300K or less.

And then there's a million sale

and he kind of torpedoed the graph.

Okay, that's a good problem to have.

It is a good problem to have.

I've been watching some,

if you've been watching stuff, what do you mean?

Oh my gosh, let's pull up my watch list.

I can tell you what I'm watching.

Absolutely killer.

I wish I could pull up.

Well, my Baron has his Dodge Stealth Live right now,

so I'm watching that.

Oh, they're a really good carado.

Just popped up.

Did you already see it?

No, what color?

Red VR6, SLC, BBS.

I want to do.

This is like, I shouldn't blow up that spot.

I like that a lot.

Did you see the 400 GT Ferrari that missed reserve yesterday?

No, I did not see that.

I like swooping in on missed reserves and grabbing,

but 400 GT didn't know that was on my speed.

I didn't know that was on your thing.

I like those a lot.

And then what else has been flowing around?

Do you see the crashed 912?

That's a lot.

Oh, I sure did.

20 grand, that was wild.

Did you see Steve Sirius, Feminade's X, Feminade,

Range Rover Classic?

Nope.

It's been on the site five times.

Ooh, that's either a record or close to it.

That's all four times on the other side.

So it's like out of a dream.

It's yours.

It's like all the way through the history of the car,

since like 2014.

Dude, this 400 is really good.

I know, I know.

Tan interior is not my favorite, but it's like,

no, it's not Daytona Stripes,

but it's got the black in-sert stripes on the seats.

On the seats.

But that was interesting.

Couple Broncos I've been watching.

Did you see the 5,000 Turbo Quattro wag?

Oh, yes.

That was an alumni car.

I was wondering.

That's an enthusiastic aspect.

That's the one that's been on four times, I think, right?

I wanted to buy that car.

Vermont Silver.

Just incredible.

I love that it's like getting driven a lot,

and it keeps getting handed from 1B80.

And there's one.

And one commenter was like, I was-

I knew the bumper didn't see the quattro.

And one person was like, I hope this car comes again,

and then it did, and they jumped on it.

There's like a lore, like a sight lore following that car.

That car is here to stay forever.

The Corvette Challenge Racecar, I thought was cool.

There's a crazy 56T bird that I was watching fairly closely.

Anyway, I'm schizophrenic, as usual,

and I love all these cars, and I'm watching them.

And it's fun to see their buyers and sellers.

He stoked about moving them through BAT.

Here's one that I guarantee was not on your watch list,

but was on mine.

Graham Hollywood?

Yes, with the supercharged factory Graham engine rebuilt

and customized in the 60s in this weird pink color,

and as Kelsey A's, wire wheels and stuff.

That's an unusual one.

Very unusual.

I never knew what a Graham Hollywood was

until probably the third year of BAT

because I would search in like the other bucket

on a lot of websites, right?

And I'd be unclassified like a non, no longer in print.

But anyway, that one came out,

and I had to kind of educate myself on those.

Guys were building rods out of those.

For sure, because they're rear drive instead of,

they don't have all the cord problems anymore.

So I featured a couple of those early on,

probably had some quippy remarks about them,

like never heard of one of these, you know?

Like what the heck is this thing?

It's for sale.

That was very early BAT, and that was a whole lot of it.

You want a crazy poll?

There's not only was there the Graham Hollywood,

but then Hupp Mobile bought the molds from them.

There's also a Hupp Mobile Skylark.

So there's two cars that are based on the Skylark.

Instead of Buick had that one, or did Buick buy Hupp Mobile?

I mean, this was also like during World War,

like right before production stopped it,

or you know, of cars is 40 more.

It says Buick is Buick.

But it must have been before.

trademark as you can get.

You know, it was also 41,

so it must have been before the Buick Skylark.

That must be a post.

They went out of business and somehow.

Oh, Buick bought it.

Somehow Buick got the name.

That's right.

There's even fewer of the Hupp Mobile's

than there are of the Graham's.

But anyway, crazy stuff.

There's so much good stuff, dude.

My watch list is just like red shell bees

and like big Ford station wagons and hot rods.

Like that's like all it is.

So you can tell.

I want to see your Ford station bees no longer on there.

I've missed a couple of those.

I told you about that.

I've been thinking about Falcon Ranch heroes.

Ever since.

Well, that red ranch hero.

I know, but ever since I told you about that SCCA photo,

I thought of this LTD country slime.

I actually saw those wagons.

Shelby, Shelby, there's this was a really good.

All in wagons, I love that about a year ago.

I want a wagon as a race carto vehicle.

100% well, you and I've been talking about that.

That's what I want.

That's like peak life for me.

Oh, dude, I've been waiting to tell you this story.

It's going to come at the end of the pod.

Okay.

I'm at the dinner at the Auburn Court,

Dusenburg West Coast meet.

And I'm talking to Randy Emo,

who's like Mr. Dusenberg.

He's written books and all these things.

And there's this older couple sitting next to us

that I'd been on the drive with me earlier.

They were in an Auburn Speedster.

And it was the wife's dad's car.

So it'd been in her family for like 60 or 70 years

since it was almost new.

And we're talking about all kinds of things

and the guys real quiet and all of a sudden he pipes up.

Oh, because I passed, I sent you the picture.

I passed a GT 65 GT350 on the highway.

Yes, they were doing the 350 tour.

So I mentioned that to Randy Emo

because somehow Mustangs had come up or Shelby's had come up

and the guy who hadn't said anything, he pipes up

and he goes, I used to tow my bug eyes,

Sprite H production SCCA car with my 65 Shelby GT350.

Talked to me.

And I was like, excuse me, baking soda?

And so I just grilled him and him and it was his wife,

they used to do it and they would sleep

under the back glass.

Oh, they would fold the back seat flat

and they, that's insane.

Two of them would sleep back there towing this car

with a Shelby, that was their tow vehicle GT350, 65.

Do they have photos?

I asked him immediately.

He's like, yeah, probably.

So this was forever ago, you know.

This person, find him and find a photograph.

Absolutely incredible.

Have you ever heard of a GT350 tow vehicle before?

Well, there's some crazy photos out there

of a GT350 towing a GT350 on a trailer

and a GT350 towing a cobra.

So there's a couple crazy,

and you almost wonder if they're staged

but they're not.

There's some threads on the Shelby forums

and such about those, but a bug eye is perfect.

I've always thought like, it's not a strong enough card

to tow a cobra.

Like a little bug eye or like a,

or like a little formula card,

like a little, you know, crossly or whatever.

Totally.

You could do something interesting,

but if you drive a Shelby, how would you want to race a bug eye?

You want to race a Shelby?

You know what I mean?

I thought that was fascinating,

but you know, if you think about a racing a Sprite,

like the Shelby is like a monster,

it is like a truck compared to the bug eyes.

I said, did you have like a little single axle trailer?

He's like, yeah, and the bug eye was so little,

like you could put all your spares and spare wheels on.

Like, you know, it was no problem.

That's like a towing a toy, you know.

Amazing.

We need to reenact that.

I can't believe I have been waiting to tell you that.

I want the photo though.

I've got, I've been hoarding some interesting photos

for some new art in the BTHQ of trailering moments in history.

Oh my gosh, you could be like one of those.

Right?

Evaluator history.

Cause everybody thinks we sell trailers anyway.

That's what the name means, right?

That's a podcast topic.

Great moments in trailering history.

Totally.

So anyway, so I'd have some great ones.

And if anybody else has any others,

they should send them to us a podcast at,

but the Shelby Bug guy, if you could know,

who knows where that guy,

Wendy probably doesn't even have an email address.

He's probably like a dog.

He'd dig him up in the Joe analog.

But if he has a five by seven glossy of the Shelby tow

in a bug eye around random race circuits,

to Cotati, get it.

I mean, I mean, I'll try to dig it out.

I appreciate that you told me that story.

This podcast has been all like we started

to kind of randomly.

So maybe the editors will chop that

and put that story up front.

I was actually gonna try to get to some topics.

I haven't seen you for a while, dude.

So it's a good BS session.

It's fun to catch up,

but that one is worthy of going to the top of the news hour

instead of the bottom of the news hour.

And that Paul Harvey is the rest of the story.

There you go.

Well, thanks, Randy.

Awesome to catch up.

Thanks to all of you for listening.

As always, feedback, questions, concerns, ideas,

and photos of rad trailer rigs

to podcastuprigotrailer.com.

Thanks for listening and we'll catch you next time.

Thanks for watching.

See you next time.

Bye.

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