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Travis Pastrana Is Built Different | NASCAR, Ken Block & the Double Backflip

Travis Pastrana Is Built Different | NASCAR, Ken Block & the Double Backflip

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About this episode

Memorial Day weekend at the shop kicks things off with a Moparty featuring Travis Pastrana, then the conversation turns emotional as they process a NASCAR-related loss and lean on the racetrack community. Corey shares how rally instincts, co-driver notes, and even “over-driving” thinking translate to NASCAR—plus a high-risk double-backflip story and rally timing details. The episode also connects Ken Block’s Hoonigan business model and city-shutdown stunt planning to Pastrana’s NASCAR crossover, Carl Edwards at Atlanta, and Charlotte track embarrassment.

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rear wheel drive

"realized I'm bad on a computer and I haven't been really quick on on pavement or rear wheel drive. Kind of better and went it out throttle out, but this Ram program came on..."

Rear-wheel drive means the back wheels get the power. That changes how the truck feels when you accelerate, compared with cars where the front wheels (or all wheels) do the work.

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Nitro Circus

"but this Ram program came on and they're sponsoring with Nitro Circus and so many stunts. It's like usually with the manufacturer, you can't do fun things."

Nitro Circus is a stunt brand/show known for extreme tricks and big jumps. In this segment, they’re connecting it to the Ram truck being used for that kind of stunt work.

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running board

"It's good. I'm not going to say the dealership to if you happen to buy something with the running board blown off of it. It might have been what Travis?"

A running board is the step on the side of a truck that you use to climb in. If it’s “blown off,” that means it got damaged or ripped loose.

Topic

Daytona 500

"you're going to do the Daytona 500 after not race for a couple years. Like, didn't you finish like ... What would it take for me to go race the Daytona 500?"

The Daytona 500 is NASCAR’s biggest race. It’s held at Daytona and it’s a huge deal because it’s hard to qualify and even harder to win.

Topic

US Rally Championship

"I talked to Jimmy Johnson. So I had won four consecutive years US Rally Championship and I'm like, all right, like there's great competition here."

The U.S. Rally Championship is a competition where drivers race against the clock on rally stages. Winning it multiple years means you’re really good at rally driving.

Topic

WRC

"I like it, but I either go to Europe and go chase WRC or I want to try something different, something that's, that's not that rally's not, it's fully challenging."

WRC means World Rally Championship. It’s the biggest rally series worldwide, with races in different countries and on different types of roads.

Topic

restrict your plate races

"Jimmy, he kind of laughed. He's like, look, restrict your plate races. He's like, technically, like you could, good car, good team, you might be able to qualify, but he's like, there's so much,"

In NASCAR, “plate races” are events where rules limit engine power to keep speeds down. That can change how you drive and how competitive you can be.

Topic

K&N series

"I think you won the K&N series the year before I started racing. Yeah. And so we were racing together in K&N."

The K&N series is a NASCAR feeder/ladder series. It’s where drivers build experience and results before moving up to bigger races.

Brand

Suzuki

"it was cool coming in because like I was a Suzuki Super Cross fan, right?"

Suzuki is a motorcycle brand, and the speaker is describing being a fan of Suzuki’s Supercross scene. That matters because it highlights the driver’s background in two-wheel motorsports before moving toward stock-car racing.

Topic

Super Cross

"it was cool coming in because like I was a Suzuki Super Cross fan, right?"

Supercross is motorcycle racing on tracks with lots of jumps and obstacles. It’s a different skill set than racing on paved ovals, so it helps explain why the speaker wanted to learn pavement racing.

Topic

double backflip

"I know exactly where I was when I watched you do the double backflip. Oh, I remember exactly where. Yeah. Like that was such a monumental and I'm"

A double backflip is when someone flips backward twice while in the air. It’s the kind of stunt that shows up in freestyle motocross.

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foam pit

"And I knew I was about 50-50 into the foam pit, like to where it probably would have come around."

A foam pit is a padded landing zone made of foam blocks. It’s there to make a crash or landing less dangerous while you’re practicing big stunts.

Person

Colin McRae

"But it's one of those moments that, I mean, I had my hero, like all-time freaking rally legend, Colin McRae, and I'm sitting literally two tenths of a second off after all the stages"

Colin McRae was one of the most famous rally race drivers ever. The speaker is saying they were extremely close in speed to a driver of that caliber.

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stages

"Colin McRae, and I'm sitting literally two tenths of a second off after all the stages"

In rally, the race is split into timed sections called stages. Your total time across all those sections determines your position.

Person

Ken Blockson third

"Colin McRae, and I'm sitting literally two tenths of a second off after all the stages against Colin McRae, Ken Blockson third."

Ken Block was a famous rally driver and stunt driver. The speaker is using him as a reference point for where he placed in the rally results.

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throttle out

"When in doubt, throttle out is always with dirt bikes. You can always, even if something's going bad, you can come into the corner a little bit faster."

It means you open the gas as you leave the turn. The idea is to keep the vehicle moving fast and pointed the right way, especially when traction is sketchy.

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breaking point

"So the really interesting thing is I learned that my true talent is being able to take risks where other people are not willing to do that... Scott's like, if this is where your breaking point is, and you know, you can't break further than this, how come every time you're behind, you charge in harder?"

It’s the moment where braking stops working the way you want. Push past that limit and the car can start sliding or not slowing down effectively.

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pavement does not reward aggression as much

"It makes so much sense on paper. But I'm like, because you're going faster, I'm trying to catch up. So pavement does not reward aggression as much as the sports that I'm."

He’s saying that on normal paved roads, pushing too hard doesn’t always pay off. Different racing surfaces react differently—sometimes you need to be aggressive, and sometimes you need to be precise.

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co-driver

"But my skill set is being able to trust my co-driver, great people around you, great equipment, the equipment's going to do its job. The co-driver nailed the notes."

In rally, the co-driver is like a navigator who calls out what’s coming next—turns, bumps, and dangers—so the driver can go faster with confidence.

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pace notes

"The co-driver nailed the notes. My job is to drive this as though all those trees and all those cliffs are cones."

Pace notes are the rally “instructions” read by the co-driver that tell the driver what the road is about to do. They help the driver prepare for turns and hazards before they arrive.

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progressively get better and better the whole time

"In NASCAR, you guys progressively get better and better and better the whole time. I turned my fastest time on lap three. You realize that you"

He means that in NASCAR, things often improve as you keep running—your car feels better and you learn the track. So the best time may come later rather than immediately.

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over-driving

"somebody said early in my career, they said, hey, over-driving, you know, the things you do, [1611.7s] the risk, they said, you can always slow a guy down. You can't speed a guy up."

“Over-driving” is when a driver goes too fast for the situation. It means the car is near (or beyond) the limit of grip, so a small mistake can cause a crash.

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SIM Expo

"Tommy's actually sidebars down here for the, the video game or SIM Expo, which is talk about a hard left. [1702.9s] but so it's safer, I guess. Yeah, you don't wreck as hard on a computer."

SIM Expo is an event focused on racing simulation hardware and software—things like sim rigs, steering wheels, pedals, and driving games. In this context, it’s being used to contrast “computer crashes” with real-world crashes, implying sims can help practice without the same physical risk.

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wing

"And when they drilled the top on, they had to pull the wing off so you can get in it. They pulled the wing off. So they drilled it back in"

A wing on a race car is there to press the car down onto the track using air. That extra “squish” helps the tires grip better when you’re cornering at speed.

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rally cars

"And then everything that I've learned with all wheel drive and rally cars, it's exact opposite of that."

Rally cars are race cars designed for rough, changing surfaces like gravel or dirt. Because the grip changes a lot, they handle differently than many normal race cars.

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overshot the corner

"okay, so I overshot it one time real big. And it went sideways. And all of a sudden, I'm right on the ends."

Overshooting a corner means you don’t make the turn where you planned—you go too far past the point you wanted. It usually happens when speed or grip doesn’t match what you expected.

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went sideways

"okay, so I overshot it one time real big. And it went sideways. And all of a sudden, I'm right on the ends."

Going sideways means the car starts sliding instead of turning cleanly. The tires lose some grip, so the car rotates and you feel the slide.

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downforce

"I'm like, oh, I haven't even started playing this arrow. Like that's then I got scared more. Yeah. So when you put the board in the air, it sits on the left rear."

Downforce is the air pressure effect that pushes the car closer to the ground. More downforce usually means better grip, especially in corners.

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Syracuse

"Dude, those guys used to race at Syracuse. Like if you talk to old guys like Doug Wolfgang"

Syracuse is a place in New York that’s been connected to racing. The speaker is saying some racers from that era competed there.

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Model Tesla Plaid

"...it, but that was the first time I ever saw one. A Tesla Plaid, dude. That thing will launch you. Probably not e..."
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internal combustion

"It ain't a Tesla Plaid by no means because it makes noise in school [1977.8s] because it's internal combustion. But dude, our, so all wheel drive, the Jim Conakars are zero to"

Internal combustion means the car makes power by burning fuel in the engine. The host is saying this dragster is gas-powered, not electric.

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all wheel drive

"But dude, our, so all wheel drive, the Jim Conakars are zero to [1982.6s] 60. I mean, with like a prep line, you can get off zero to 60 in 1.2."

All-wheel drive means the car can send power to more than one axle. That helps it grip the road better when you accelerate hard.

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zero to 60

"But dude, our, so all wheel drive, the Jim Conakars are zero to [1982.6s] 60. I mean, with like a prep line, you can get off zero to 60 in 1.2."

“Zero to 60” measures how fast a car can go from standing still to 60 mph. Faster times usually mean stronger acceleration.

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prep line

"the Jim Conakars are zero to [1982.6s] 60. I mean, with like a prep line, you can get off zero to 60 in 1.2."

On a drag strip, a “prep line” means they set up the track to give the tires better grip. That helps the car accelerate without wheelspin.

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top fuel

"going and it was nothing compared to a top fuel. I watched the, the Mustang, the Jim Conak,"

Top Fuel is the super-fast drag racing category. It’s used here as a comparison point for how intense acceleration can be.

Place

Pike's Peak

"Pike's Peak. Sure. We hung it off the side of that corner. Yeah, bro."

Pike’s Peak is a well-known mountain road in Colorado that’s hard to drive because it’s steep and high up. The hosts are referencing it as a place where stunts get especially intense.

Brand

Puma

"So Ken and I became friends. Um, actually I was sponsored by Puma was one of my biggest money deals and Alpine Stars."

Puma is a clothing/shoes brand. The speaker is saying Puma sponsored them while they were doing racing and stunts.

Brand

Alpine Stars

"actually I was sponsored by Puma was one of my biggest money deals and Alpine Stars. Anytime I needed anything for, I had really bad ankles and bracing ankles or body armor for whatever stunts."

Alpinestars makes protective gear for motorsports. The speaker is saying the brand helped them with safety equipment for stunts and racing.

Person

Gabrielle

"Uh, Gabrielle, who's a owner of Alpine Stars was always right there. And Gabrielle lied about my first ever car race."

Gabrielle is a person the speaker credits with helping them get into racing and providing support through Alpinestars. She’s described as being very involved in their career.

Place

Indy Motorspeedway

"ran the Porsche Cup, um, and Indy Motorspeedway. So I was in Juan Montoya's pit box. I was."

Indy Motorspeedway is a famous big racing track in the U.S. The speaker is saying they were around top-level racing teams there.

Person

Juan Montoya

"So I was in Juan Montoya's pit box. I was. Oh, cool. And he lied about"

Juan Montoya is a famous professional race driver. The speaker is mentioning him to show they were connected to a top racing team environment.

Topic

X games

"So I went to Ken block a week before X games. I said, Hey, can I get a win bonus?"

X Games is a big event for extreme sports and stunts. The speaker is saying this happened right before that competition.

Term

drift

"nowadays, like Connor daily was driving Subaru was like whole life wanted his dad was an F1 racer and he wanted to drive and drift because of the Jim Connoisseur."

Drift is when a driver intentionally makes the car slide sideways while still steering through the turn. It’s a controlled way of going around corners that looks dramatic.

Brand

Hoonigan

"So like Jim Conno goes, Hey, or sorry, Ken Block goes, I got to prove that as a business model, this works without me. He's like, Hoonigan is worth X with Jim Conno. It's worth Y without it."

Hoonigan is Ken Block’s brand connected to his stunt driving videos and racing projects. In this conversation, they’re talking about it like a business that can stand on its own.

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technical driving

"He goes, I've kind of maxed out. He goes, I like technical driving. He goes, Jim Conno is always going to be about technical driving. He goes, you have to have an epic build in an epic location, like so an epic car, uh, whatever you do in an epic location."

Technical driving means driving with precision and control, not just doing something flashy. It’s about using the car correctly—steering and throttle—to keep it stable and in the right spot.

Term

tire marks

"And I called Ken just short of crying after my first day because you think, oh, you got all this time. You see all these tire marks. You've got usually three attempts."

Tire marks are the marks left on the road by the tires when they slide or spin. Here they’re being used to show that even a “first day” of driving can already be hard on the tires and surface.

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spare parts

"You have one car. You have four days. If you destroy the car beyond, I mean, a great team. They got spare parts. But after the first day, we had fog all morning. We had rain."

Spare parts are extra replacement pieces the crew keeps ready. If something gets damaged during a stunt or shoot, they can swap it quickly so the project can continue.

Term

valet park

"I'm like, I'm going to valet park the Subaru at the bar, not in front of the bar, like straight through the window."

Valet parking is when someone else parks the car for you. In this story, they’re using the phrase to describe a wild stunt that’s way beyond normal parking.

Concept

reboot

"But I felt it was my obligation to, to Ken to at least get this kind of reboot. If not, it's a amazing farewell tour."

A reboot means restarting something with a fresh start. In this segment, it’s about bringing the Jim Connors idea back in a renewed way after things changed.

Term

governors approval

"So now instead of doing a smaller, he's doing bigger. [2408.6s] He went and got governors approval. He got every, like, you know, mayor, everybody's on board,"

They had to get official permission from the governor’s office to close roads for the stunt. Big stunts can’t just happen on public streets without government sign-off for safety and traffic control.

Term

hooning

"They made a law, no hooning. They said, you can't hoon again. Obviously they're like, [2454.8s] you can't drift here. We don't want it here."

“Hooning” is an Australian word for doing reckless driving stunts—like sliding or speeding around for fun. The story is saying the law was meant to stop that kind of driving.

Term

four cylinder

"I thought we were going to get smoked with this four cylinder. You know, we got, we had about the same amount of horsepower. [2498.9s] We got 850 horsepower. I think we might have had a little more, but we crush them zero to 100."

A “four-cylinder” engine means the engine has four combustion chambers. The speaker is saying they thought it would be slower, but it still performed strongly.

Term

zero to 100

"We got 850 horsepower. I think we might have had a little more, but we crush them zero to 100. [2504.3s] But there's this corner that you're hitting 160 at the end of the straightaway"

“Zero to 100” means how fast a car can accelerate from a standstill to 100 (mph or km/h). It’s a quick benchmark people use to compare acceleration.

Term

kink

"But there's this corner that you're hitting 160 at the end of the straightaway into the, [2508.1s] this kink. And I'm like, for sure, Will is going to pass me"

A “kink” is a quick, slight bend in the road—more like a small change in direction than a full turn. Drivers care about it because it can throw off speed and steering for what comes next.

Term

RPMs

"and I'm everything it's got right to the maximum. It goes 9,600 RPMs, which is pretty amazing for [2519.1s] four cylinder."

RPMs tell you how fast the engine is spinning, measured in revolutions per minute. Race cars often rev very high, which is part of why they sound so intense.

Term

dog leg

"And we're going down to this dog leg, right? [2523.7s] We're at 152, 155 and we're side by side."

A dog leg is a tricky part of a race track where the car has to change direction quickly. It’s challenging because you have to set up the next turn while you’re still finishing the previous one.

Term

V8 Supercar

"Dude, we have some big, a lot of V8 Supercar fans. Would you ever have any [2548.1s] interest in doing a V8 Supercar race?"

V8 Supercars are a popular racing series in Australia with V8 engines. Travis is saying he’d consider racing them, but the biggest challenge for him is adapting to the driving side.

Place

Wild Horse Pass

"You guys put the jumps in the middle and came back out on the race track, right? Where was Phoenix? Wild Horse Pass? [2605.2s] But you guys set up, we did a couple in the NASCAR tracks."

Wild Horse Pass is a motorsports venue Travis references as the location where the Nitro Crosscar course had jumps added and then rejoined the race track. Track layout matters a lot in off-road racing because jumps and transitions change how you brake, steer, and land.

Place

Loudon

"Brother, one time they did it in Loudon and the track came out [2615.4s] in the one and two."

Loudon is a place where races happen in New Hampshire. Travis is saying they tried the jump setup there and the track’s layout made it work differently.

Term

qualifying

"Jimmy Blewett was the first one out qualifying and got too high and got in that. [2620.6s] Knocked the fence down because I didn't clean up."

Qualifying is when drivers try to set their best lap time to decide where they start the race. Travis says he spun during qualifying, which is a big deal because it affects your starting spot.

Place

Charlotte Motor Speedway

"Charlotte. 100%. Charlotte Motor Speedway, which is funny that that's the race that I'm getting to, [2639.5s] but tomorrow. Yeah, again. You got it, buddy. Dude, I spun off a four in practice."

Charlotte Motor Speedway is a famous NASCAR track. Travis is talking about getting embarrassed there because he spun the car during practice and qualifying.

Term

lead lap

"After a couple of cautions, got back on the lead lap, spun again. Tighten that son of a bitch up, man."

“Lead lap” means your car is still on the same lap as the front of the race. If you get behind, you have to use cautions and pit strategy to catch back up.

Term

caution

"every time it caused a caution and for whatever reason, however it was going on, I managed my way back to the lead lap."

A “caution” is when the race slows down because something happened on the track. Everyone has to adjust their strategy because the cars get closer together again.

Term

green, white checker

"And the last green, white checker, we're sitting like 17. They're like, hey, man, you got a top 15 in you."

That phrase describes a late-race restart format: they restart on green, then it’s one lap to go (white flag), then the race ends (checkered). It happens if there’s a caution near the end.

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