Ugliest Car Ever? Doug DeMuro's Road Rage Strategy, and the Tesla Future Classic!

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hello and welcome to this

carpod I'm filipo I'm Nick because Kenan

isn't here today very sad but we have

Nick instead he's got some car updates

for us and some other things and we got

a lot of car to talk about so let's go

should we get started with the S Nick

tell us about this all right so man

sarry and that's actually how it's

pronounced it's man the pause I think is

optional then sorry man sorryi has the

new Ferrari SUV should be sorry so I get

it and I've actually I've been digging

deep into this because as a car

Enthusiast I've spent a lot of time

wondering who's buying this stuff Doug's

losing it which is

great you won't not say man sorry okay

the Genesis of this is the Instagram

worst spec you know there's all these

people like oh your Speck is so great

nice spec yeah but there's an Instagram

called wor spec that looks at the worst

specs yeah I love this account it's one

of the great Instagrams and he refers to

Manser the company that makes horrible

body kits only as manari and Okla that

is how Mr mansari himself pronounces it

you're kidding I'm dead serious that is

how they pronounce it in Amsterdam or

wherever they're from well he should be

saying man sorry for this one this is

the ugliest thing I have seen in my life

do you agree it's what is your Deep dive

in the Deep dive is that's the point it

is supposed to be an entous display of

wealth so the uglier and more obnoxious

they make it the more distinct it is and

therefore when you were in Monaco trying

to flex on everyone that else has a

purong way there's no mistaking that you

paid $400,000 extra for the ugly version

you don't see a lot of them Monaco you

see them in the Middle East wherever

you're seeing them where that's the

point if it were subtle no one would

know that you spent double the cars

value on theost they are incredibly

expensive I will news though it has like

five more horsepower yep oh Little tune

little tun ex I think it's just a flex

on your buddies so the Matt Armstrong

the YouTuber just

rebuilt Marcus rashford's wraith and I'm

messing up all the names there but he

detailed the parts and it was like a

badge is

$1,300 a man sorry badge the hood would

be $144,000 like everything is

exorbitantly expensive but that is the

point is the company just kind of making

fun of their C like do you understand

what I'm saying like if if the point to

be over the toop ostentatious and

ridiculous like at some point are you

just making fun of it's a good question

people yes like do they exist to make

fun of their customers what does Mr

manery Drive himself uh that the

question Expos that but he's got a long

flowing white beard and a uh kind of

looks like a wizard but he's he's a

character he was uh had a lot of cush

words in the most recent Matt video but

um I will say he's like European so this

is the manari version of the Ferrari SUV

the P you know what this looks like is

the Juke R remember the Juke R the Juke

R was tasteful theuk tasteful it's got a

lot of can I would like to go to a photo

of the of the rear because we don't have

it here pangu

manery rear sorry spelled it right only

one R despite the pronunciation oh man

this is just aggressively bad so the

whole point is to be even shower than

like whatever like an Avent if if in

your community Aventadors are common you

get a man sorry event Ator the pator and

and it's not that he's trolling his

customers his customers are looking for

this so he's found a need and they're

filling that need and I will say the

craftsmanship actually appears to be

well in terms of like the fit and finish

like it doesn't look I agree with that

it always seems like it's it's not like

a cheap like body kit that's falling off

at 350Z and it's the interior they

reupholster every inch of the inside

like really they go all out but it is

hundreds of thousands of dollars that

you spend on top of the purchase price

agree that it makes it uglier I would

never do this in a million I wouldn't

buy the perang way to begin with but and

if Nick wouldn't do it imagine it man

sari all over the seat belts go back up

go back up man sari all over the look at

that Lit man sari on the seat man sarry

in the in the you saw what they're

calling this right the Pug natator the

what the pug natator pug natator

yikes yikes what other doesn't work what

other man's sories are there go back up

there

oh man they got a they got a whole wait

wait go I want to see the vesa oh man

911 Carrera facelift you want to see the

best these aren't so

bad the Golden Age of cars aka the 9s

and you had wings West Civics right the

idea again was to be like a Transformer

and look as different and wild as

possible right that's a design ethos

it's not for us but for the right typ

names they may have made the XM look

good the XM looks about the same

chopster that looks like a Cayenne that

is a Cayenne you want the chopster their

website has had some TR troubles here

and there yikes on a stick well that is

man sorry and man are we sorry we had to

look at that how many times you want to

make the joke you got to come up with

something more creative I love it the

dude named his company like what we

think you know it it would be like it

would be like I we'll have to think of

something yeah all right we we'll put

some thought to it okay next news story

there is a ketchup situation fipo tell

us uh yeah Volkswagen for some reason is

giving you bottles of ketchup when you

buy specific cars okay which cars and

why the why we will never understand no

it has something to do with they serve

this ketchup in their Factory or

something it's something made near their

Factory I I to be honest this is your

news story I I all I know is that

there's a press photo with a jeda GLI

with a tomato stem and a bottle of

ketchup all that's all I know this

ketchup is served in their factories to

their Factory workers and a apparently

we are supposed to know that and so now

they're serving it uh with cars you

could actually get it for free through

their parts catalog for a bit that's

what it is no way so you didn't have to

buy a car it's back now now you can get

it for free through their parts catalog

again and and uh not to make this

political but you have the shrink

flation movement it used to be you buy a

Jetta you get a pair of K2 Skis or a

Trek mountain bike now we're catch up I

mean come on are you just going to do

the '90s is this going to be a 90s

podcast that was the Jetta 3

well the 1996 the Trek Edition was a

great Edition somehow it's what they all

are this is 30 years ago he's it was a

great Edition green you know true story

about that my friend's dad owned a VW

dealer and for Christmas he took some of

the skis away from one of the vehicles

wrapped it and put it under the tree and

that's what he got for Christmas you

know speaking of '90s Volkswagen should

we talk harleyquinn for a second o pull

up a picture of a golf Harley Quinn love

those you know that you know how they

made them yeah of course different

panels from different cars right they

assembled it that's exactly right the

golf Harlequin was made Volkswagen for a

while sold this this multicolored car

there were four colors the color of the

car is the color the yellow it's the the

base color that can't really be changed

and so they would make it they made a

hundred of each in their Factory and

then when the car was built they

unscrewed the panels and I mean it was

way easier than trying to paint each

panel obviously right they unscrewed the

panels and they all had and and each car

had a thing like every yellow car had a

blue door like they all had place they

were supposed to go here's a story for

you in the 1996 Atlanta Olympics the

golf Harlequin was like the car it was

like drove around the athletes there

were like dozens of them and at the end

of the Olympics the golf Harlequin went

to the local Volkswagen dealership in

Atlanta and I knew the people who worked

there and they told me that after that

they had four or five of them left on

their lot like a year later nobody won

this multicolored Golf and so one night

they swapped him back they took it

back cuz it was the only way to sell

this track was there no special badging

or anything to say like harle there was

the interior you think you need a

you I'm sure you could a little fish

wire you could take it off the interior

had this multicolor pattern which was

only on the harlequins they did a polar

Harlequin in Europe too I think it's the

coolest thing in the world but at the

time you could see that maybe you

wouldn't want to spend like 25 Grand on

a rainbow you know the biggest highlight

here is they sold the golf in great

colors now it's the was not offered in

these colors only the harle Quinn was

offered I think one of these colors was

on the golf but the rest of them were

all to the Harley Quinn like chagal blue

I don't remember the color names all do

we have it in ginst yellow ginster

yellow Bas okay that's your green

tornado red shagal blue well done anyway

back to the ketchup Volkswagen does

weird things and now they're offering

ketchup and unfortunately you cannot get

a Jetta with a tomato St wait is that

what the new jeda Jedi looks like the

post faft who knew I yeah I was just

thinking the other day like what

manufacturers are not selling cars

anymore and Volkswagen came in mind I

was like no they still have they still

have it but they they don't sell the

golf here anymore right it's just the

GTI and the Golf R right things are

changing yeah the whole new world it's

not the you in Europe Volkswagen sells a

convertible SUV called the t-rock

Cabriolet and they have for years yeah

frontel drive only though right I

believe I don't know that sounds like a

good car for you to import give

us here's our next news story it's the

new Ram heavy duty has been released and

it has an absolutely ridiculous Grill

there are lines everywhere now it's hard

to see the resolution of our camera but

there are Lines line line line line line

line line line line it like a bailing

whale it looks like it's going to be a

lot of fun to clean but it's a truck

who's cleaning trucks we're going to try

to find new photos uh you don't think

anybody's cleaning truck I mean not to

the like obsessive Kenan and felipa with

the Fiat 500 thank you for watching our

video you know I will say also the

interesting thing about these trucks

with the grills um there you go you can

kind of see it a little bit better look

at all those lines there's up there's

vertical lines there's horizontal lines

uh there's normal line that's fine those

Vehicles kill people do we agree oh yeah

100% okay there's no pedestrian

regulations for vehicles like this they

can have grills I mean this Grill's got

to be four five feet high yep they will

murder children it'll be very tragic wow

well you you get the cyber truck also

known for comparatively lower harder

doesn't deform but compar it's fine what

what why why are we talking about this

can you because it's a

facelifted I think it real design has

jumped the shark this is yet another

manufacturer trying to I remember years

ago I did a review on the Superduty and

the the Ford badge was the size of

license plate and it was that was crazy

and now I mean my Toyota badge on my

Sequoia is the size of fipo I'm not

exagger he lie down right that Ram badge

might as well be the size of a child

right it's kind of disappointing but

that's the world we're living in now but

it's a lot of plastic which is

interesting give me another news story

give me a robot M oh yes this is an

interesting one go ahead uh inos is

pausing production of the Grenadier and

Quarter Master which is their pickup

truck uh for they say about a year due

to some part delays now it is

legitimately apparently driven by part

I heard they don't know how long but

months they're pulling a Jaguar so they

they do say that it's solely due to like

some key part they haven't said which

one from A supplier that's not available

but you got to assume they're kind of

happy about this well okay so I don't

think it has anything to do with a

part inos dealers are loaded with inos I

likei I think they're cool but they are

not hard to find they are not hard to

buy they are very oversold right now

over produced and at dealers and so I

have a susp whenever an automaker says

Parts there's a parts delay we're

pausing production you don't pause

production you got to sell in order to

continue to make I mean to generate they

are certainly content with their not

being additional inventory at their

dealer Lots one wonders what the real

story is I'll put it that way I could be

a little bit of both I don't if you tell

your supplier stop producing the part

well yeah then there's a shortage of the

part listen I'll tell you this I'll tell

you this if you're in a position where

your car is doing incredibly well you

find a way you get a part you get the

part you don't pause production for 6

months you find another supplier or you

have your suppliers signed cont I mean

there's suppliers generally can't get

out of this kind of stuff this is an

interesting thing situation can I note

there are a lot of in SC around which

it's stunning I I'm surprised by how

much adoption there has been in wealthy

Coastal neighborhoods on nuet this

summer where just a big four-wheel drive

uh called

they were I don't know I saw 30 of them

it's like here in San Diego yeah I got

three neighbors who have them literally

within a few blocks of my house it's

like the thing you know what you will

never see a Quarter Master do you know

how do you know how much the pck cost

well it's subject to the chicken tax it

is do you know how much it costs well

25% more than it should correct it's

like it's 95 Grand if memory serves for

the base pickup Grenadier the chicken TX

scuzi it always has that's the problem

they need to they need to pull a Ford

Transit Connect and assemble it here

well take take the seats in and take

them out it's it's a pickup thing though

it only works that like that with Vans

they do have uh lease specials I've been

seeing Facebook ads for it and that's

like a investment hypothesis I have for

like a family offices figure out who's

pushing the best lease deals on Facebook

and then short those

stops it's a great point it was it was

the canary Canary and the coal mine for

the future of of inos unfortunately it

is every car right now if you're running

the Johnson and Johnson family office

here is a great idea for you um what do

you think the Johnson Johnson family

office is called cuz I doubt it's

Johnson and Johnson no they got some

name um Pig Johnson Toyota and Lexus are

not in short in Long except for the bz

4X which is the worst car on sale do we

AG can we just say that as a as a

podcast can we take a position as a

podcast I will ponder we'll come back

next week and I will is Thea worse do

you think the b4x is uglier

yeah agreed so it's slightly worse I I

will put some real thought over the next

week worst car on sale yeah you're

thinking about the Volkswagen Atlas

crossback or whatever it's called those

are cheap though it's not the the Q4

rron and honestly so does infinity Q60

or 50 whichever one is still for sale

dude yesterday I asked him and Sam to

name all the current

Infinities got half the lineup and they

both said products that don't exist

anymore no oh yeah fipo still

nonetheless I would like credit for

getting them all correct just not all of

them okay so anyway inos pausing

production no surprise uh they are they

are over supplied whether or not they

say it's the supplier there's been talk

maybe it's ricaro because of the seats

that could be true but other

manufacturers aren't having that issue I

suspect it's an issue of oversupply yeah

regardless even if it is part part

related they're probably pretty content

there are cars that are early adopter

cars and this is one of them like I

think the early people get it they're

excited they pay sticker they pay over

it's hard after that to find the segment

and once I started seeing how many of

these are showing up at the inos

Steelers I was really surprised this is

never production because I mean in India

is like a legitimate company I'm not

surprised they had the supply chain part

issue aside mostly figured out to get

cars to Lots but it maybe hurt them too

yeah and I I think they may be over over

oversized over decided how many people

would actually want to buy they named it

after a pubit England made the decision

to create I think the whole thing's a

little silly uh I think they're cool

though I wish there was a conver British

to do all of the above correct correct

and I am I am impressed by how much it

looks like a Defender yeah it looks cool

as hell you see him around it

legitimately looks cool as hell and I

will say regardless of the current over

Supply situation they have kind of

proven to Land Rover hey there were

people who were interested in this like

if Land Rover had done it and done it at

to on on their terms I bet it would have

been a successful car and instead they

left it to somebody else and they've

done okay I don't think the powert train

works I think a lot of the tech is wonky

but like they've shown hey there

actually are people rich with real money

willing to buy this car and maybe

Landover should have given that a

thought before making the defender like

a Suburban transport vehicle if you want

to learn more about it Doug does have a

full review on his YouTube Channel full

review right we're going to move on to

the next topic which is gr cor the gr

coroll it's now available with an

automatic transmission you seen this how

much you you can get get I believe an

8speed automatic now how much do you

think it is cheaper or more expensive

than the regular jur Corolla to do so

I'm going to go with no cost option no C

option that's what it should be instead

it's 2 Grand more so you could buy a Zur

Corolla with a manual or you could spend

two grand which is 5% of the sale of the

MSRP to get and it's not it's going to

resell worse oh no doubt so much and so

the question so you're you're paying

more you're going to lose more period I

mean there's no question about that and

it's just it's just a torque converter a

yeah here's my question they have some

BS name for it sure my question is are

they going to sell it any is anyone

going to purchase it well so keep in

mind that people put man automatics in

first gen vipers because they were

Boomers who really want an automatic it

was it was an aftermarket option but you

see them pop up sometimes really maybe

yeah I was going to say people that you

know either had a disability or had a a

legitimate need to not they're not

buying a jerk Cora I agree I think that

those people will do it so that's the

small portion of is anyone else going to

do it people who don't want to sit in

traffic I guess in why buy a j Cora well

you want to have some fun but you got to

you got a long commute do you think

they're going to get buyers that just

want an all-wheel drive Corolla like

hashack it's the only Corolla hasback

available with all wheel drive that's

interesting I was behind a a Focus ST

today that was going very slowly and I

was thinking to myself did does this

person just want a stick focus and it or

a white focus and it was like at the

dealer and so the seats look cool so

they did it you know maybe you get a

good deal on it you probably will that

so that'll apply to the felipo and I

category never buy the automatic version

of this car ever what if it was really

cheap no half off no half off half off

in free oil changes for

life you would do it and you get a

Toyota bee and lion I I do wonder if the

market is like like

you and your your wife have a Ford Focus

that's an automatic despite that being

the worst transmission known to man The

it just was it is yeah it's bad would

you if if you want a jerk roller but you

want your significant other who can

drive manual maybe you would buy the

auto Jer yeah again it like it should

only be my sign why is this so rough why

what is going why did this cost

$48,000 you don't tell her it's the gr

you I got you a Corolla it's a basic car

No Frills just like you I once had that

idea I was going to get my wife a Grand

Cherokee SRT do you remember this I was

going to pull the badges this was a

legitimate idea that I had and I kind of

took it to some conclusion but I didn't

do that but I really really really

thought about it it would be a little

loud she she may not that she would

notice the noise I really don't she's

around my loud cars all the time she's

probably like normalized noise like I

think it would be fine but my wife now

notices things that I don't expect but

that I would never notice for example

there's a Honda prologue parked in front

of my house CU that's what getting

picked up she I had not noticed that the

badge is a different Honda spelling on

the you didn't notice that's like the

only cool thing about the exterior I I

was I was busy admiring the color uh and

the Blazer and she hates it apparently

but like she came in and said I can't

believe this looks like that I hate that

I think it's cool it's futuristic but

you maybe your wife would notice the

color or she'd notice like the giant

breakes or the color but not the I think

we we'd get away with that I am

surprised at how many TRD Edition Camry

that I see around and you're like it's

just a body kit so the person wanted an

automatic practical car that also looked

like a little sporty so if you are like

I want a Corolla but I want a sporty

looking one but I also don't I'm not a

the bass Corolla hatchback is like

sporty looking and they offer a sport

one that isn't the gr also you know what

I Iz about those Camry trds I was in New

York city where the Avalon is like the

main car for the Ubers and like I saw

like 12 Avalon trds and it hit me those

those guys showed up at the dealer there

wasn't a regular Avalon so they were

like all right I'll take the TRD and I

bet that's a lot of the Camry TRD buyers

probably yeah there's one I know in

particular that I'm like I know this

person and they're not a TRD buyer I

think they're just what was available I

will say I found five more buyers I

think there's five people in Vermont who

bought an STI when it was new cuz they

wanted an allhe Drive hot hat drive

those yeah but like now they're they're

ready for auto they will buy those and

we found all 10 buyers right good job

okay moving on to the talk cars segment

where we are going to talk about about

cars uh and I want to start with a topic

that I think is really important uh

which is road rage it hit me the other

day not not not not theory of mine yet

best Doug Theory I've heard was watching

YouTube videos with road rage

uh as I do r.com roadcam no no on

YouTube I I it now recommends me road

rage videos all sorts of things like

that I I my YouTube is is road rage

compilations and weird things that

happen in Major League Baseball games

that's like it like like the guy hitting

a bird yeah stuff like that I I I watch

a ton could actually happen on either

video something for the audience to

think about here's my road rage

contention a lot of people out there

seem to enjoy getting in road rage and

so my is if you're going to get in road

rage you should do it you should engage

with a driver of a first generation

Nissan Leaf because those cars initially

12 years ago only had 64 miles of range

and these days they're probably down to

about 30 miles of range and so my

thinking is engage in a road rage

incident with them they can't chase you

so if you're out of the road and you're

thinking I'm mad and I really want to

rage at somebody seek out a Nissan Leaf

first generation and it's a brilliant

idea they're also statistically less

likely to be gun owners I would imagine

which having lived in Arizona a while

that is calculus you do before you road

rage on someone sure is the calculus

what you see you see an NRA bumper

sticker or pickup you don't mess with

them on the same level you would a leaf

owner it's true for so many reasons but

if you the same argument could be made

about imv owners yeah well you can find

one they're so pathetic right that you

don't want to that's true no off I you

have to say hey you've had a bad year

year decades two decades but first least

and you got to assume if they're driving

they've already so let's say the 64

miles range in 2012 now they're down to

like 35 you can tell by the way if you

ever want to buy any Leaf the ways you

know doesn't matter they're now down to

35 miles of range right yeah but if

they're driving they've probably used at

least use three or four miles of range

already if they're on the highway

they're at one mile regardless of how

long they've been on the highway and if

they do try to chase you at the very

least you can take solson knowing they

won't have air conditioning for it

because if they turn on their air

conditioning they'd lose like 10 more

miles of rain

and so that's a little road range tip

for you and they look like a frog yeah

it's weird looking car um okay Nick that

is an excellent takeaway for entire

audience thank you thank you it's going

to be hard to for some people to find to

first gener you're also assuming

someone's doing calculated premeditated

Road Rage

which don't you just want to do road

rage sometimes I think just rage I do

have this fantasy that if I won the

lottery and had infinite money like I

would rear end people if they weren't

quick enough at the lights and like kind

of just nudge them off not to harm them

but just to like penalize them for being

too slow when I'm trying to get

somewhere you are like one step away

from

owning oh yeah yeah like a Rani would be

a great card or the Tera whatever right

the gerka it's not up yet it's not g

it's not up yet okay um okay Nick update

us about your Maserati quatra Porte all

right so the qp5 is I've gotten it it's

been a a whirlwind already but we we

have all seen it outside of one spot it

looks great yes I pulled the paint

removing paint protection film but I've

done some good things too I changed the

oil so on pressure wash the pressure

wash the engine had a little issues

there but the big issue was the title so

the guy sends me the title and this was

after a lot of back and forth with a

very sketchy person with a with a person

where we we called off the deal twice I

canceled shipping it it was like a whole

thing and uh the title finally arrives

and it's missing a signature so now I

told him

to uh you have possession of the car

that's n910 of the law no I said look

the title's missing a signature the guy

is sketchy just sign it yeah dou Nick of

does not actually advocate for I was a

good A Good Samaritan and I I sent it

back to him because I didn't want to be

accused of title fraud but he already

has the full payment for the vehicle So

in theory he could have taken that title

and said hey some guy in California

stole my car here's the title here's the

proof of ownership and I it would I

don't know if it would work or not but

he could try course he also sent you the

title before he sent you the car so you

could have done the same thing you

already shown that you're and that was

why this deal took over a month was we

were both running those hypotheticals

assuming the other guy was going to scam

each other and and we just came to

stalemate so many I thought Nick was

going to scam him because Nick's the

type of guy who's buying a used quator

the problem is that Nick's buying the

car from the type of guy who's selling a

used quatro Porte and and you know

earlier in the transaction when I sent

proof of funds he's like I got more

money than you like they kept being like

this weird contest and then what did you

send him what what photo we talked about

this lastek we talked about it so so

anyways the story continues that he said

all right I will have the the title

signed but I want extra money for the

inconvenience even though the guy

himself wasn't the one he didn't sign

the title correctly in the first place

he asked for more money from Nick for

the inconvenience of him having to sign

the title correctly didn't you

previously send him more money to

overnight you a title that he then just

pocketed I sent him $30 for overnighting

he showed me a picture of the $5 postage

he pocketed the 25 bucks and it took it

took like weeks Som got lost and it took

a week to go from Texas to Montana to

where Nick California I think you said

yeah yeah of course um but anyway so I

which county though I decided not to

explain to him how I was the one being

inconvenienced I drove the car without

it being registered for a week and

thankfully that the title actually did

arrive back we are Bros now we're

exchanging photos and like what are the

new photos of his Audi seven and I'm not

sure why other

than uh the only one that I know of the

first one he doesn't know what color is

it latest one uh Nardo gray n gr is he

looking to

sell would you recommend him as a seller

I was so weired because we talked badly

upon him on the last podcast before the

title had been received and I'm like oh

my gosh if he listens I have a feeling

he's going to keep this

title at least now we can say the

transaction is done and the sketchiest

man in the world has sold the the second

sketchiest man in the world a quatro

officially we're both all right people

some very fine people on both sides

thank you that's exactly what I was

looking

for oh I'm glad that you got it done

Nick and I'm so excited to see the qu P

start to appear on the channel when are

the videos start to go live soon I've

got about three half filmed here it is

currently having the wheels redone in

silver which I know will make you very

happyy they were Factory black but it

wasn't a oh they were Factory black yeah

oh well it looked bad cuz I think blue

wheels on a black car with blue black

wheels on a blue car look stupid it's

like wearing a blue shirt and black pant

like it doesn't match but it was end of

the run and Maserati was trying to find

a way to make the product no one wanted

a little more exciting black wheels were

really in should have tried was selling

it for $177,000 or $113,000 or whatever

you paid oh it is worth every penny I

love this car for 14

Grand I'm sure you do and it's been

reliable yeah he came down to my son at

a birthday party the other day he drove

his whole family to the party in it

wife kids made it we made it round trip

they all show up in a maera port with

fictitious license plates cuz at the

time the title hadn't come in yet so

you're doing great Nick apparently

pretty soon we are all going to be going

to the desert in cars that are cheap and

the quator is one of them and there will

be others and it's going to be a video

series we'll have more on that on the

youtube.com it's going to be quite an

exciting series give us a talk cars

please yeah I want to talk about a kind

of a preference thing so went live today

on cars and bids so we're filming this a

little bit early yes uh there are two

very green cars yes that that just went

live on car one is an AMG GTR Coupe in

green hell Magno yeah YouTube Don't

demonetize us that's what Mercedes

called it yeah uh and a Huracan Evo in

um Verde mantis before you got here he

was like would either of you drive ever

drive a car in these colors and I was

like I wouldn't get one of these two

cars if it wasn't in these colors

Huron cool car but it this is just such

a I I can't that's what they are I can't

that's what they are I just can't do you

agree it's like the mansari that's the

point the point to be obnoxious I

actually love this the greenell Magnum

was a great I wouldn't get a GTR and

anything but green hell Magnum that's

the color it's it's such a color it's so

color yeah but that's the that's the

point blue blue on your 4GT looks

wonderful this guy has seven cars and so

when he wants to go crazy he drives this

when he wants to daily he's got Escalade

were either of these the Press color

this was yeah cuz I think of so think of

the Verde Etha with mercio Lagos there's

a lot of cars where like the green is

Iconic so I think this being the Press

color yes on the Huracan I don't know

Huracan but you got to have it in some

loud color yeah like people who get

black I don't get at it totally hides

what the color of herc who sold that

looks cool that that Orono Argos looks

really cool Roso I'm Into You know I

really like lizard green on the GT3 rs's

you're trying to put there's certain

cars it works I want my cars to all be

silver you're try to put a classy color

into a non- classy car the Huracan isn't

classy and never will be it's a it's an

in yourface crazy thing so you get an in

yourface crazy color when I was looking

for Lotus elisas back 10 years ago I

will never forget how many were silver

and gray and it was like you guys don't

get the point of a Lotus Elite no I want

my Lotus El to be gray no yeah I wanted

Krypton green which was this but I

couldn't afford it yeah and honestly

shopping for my qp5 I said I will not bu

a silver black or white it has to be a

color I honestly don't care beyond that

but it has to be a color I don't want a

gray scale have you seen the Bentley

there was a Bentley in here in which is

purple on purple and I'm not saying it's

like some purple on the interior the

carpets the whole thing it's a Bentley

press car that I have and they call the

color

damson damson all right that's what I

said Damon you got a purple P so I'm I'm

alone you are alone if you get a car

like this that's what you want you're

crazy not the market for uh later on I'm

going to sell you a automatic gr Corolla

in lizard green real good deal I would

only bu to thr transmission fluid

flushes that's enough for he knows

you're incred the fluid a little cooling

you don't have to change it it's it's

fluid by the way speaking of this you

know what do you know what the Genesis

the endup Genesis of that Sequoia oil

change thing was remember I said on the

podcast I have to drive cross country

and get my oil Chang you remember what

you know what happened uh I I took it to

the dealership in hyanis Massachusetts

and they said the oil change is actually

not until 10,000 miles the 5,000 m

service I swear to God he said it's

going to take us an hour but he said we

rotate your tires we check your floor

mat positioning and we check your fluids

and I said sir can I have my keys back

and I left and I drove the car at $3500

I will say I you told me this and then I

looked it up it does say that if you're

driving in more difficult conditions

such as maybe on the beach every single

day or

exclusively on 3,000 mil at a time yeah

you should probably I'm going to get the

oil change to 8,500 miles to compensate

for that what are you at right now 8500

I'm going take it to I was worried you

were at 8,000 and it would take you a

year to get the last 500 I'm also a

little bit of an orphan with this seoa

because I bought it from Toyota Long

Beach shout out to my guys I actually

did the whole transaction over text

message when I was sitting Washington

Square Park in Manhattan I swear to God

including the wire and so I I bought it

at Long Beach Toyota and so they don't

accept me at the other Toyota the first

thing they say is did you buy it here

and I'm like no and they're like well

sir they don't need to ask you that they

haven't sold a TRD Pro seia years I

would have bought here if you had one um

anyway so the Sequoia is going to get it

oil change it's getting cleaned right

now wow it's it was rough it was so

rough you should have seen how much sand

was in this thing I bet I mean it was so

bad and like shells and crab pieces and

it was just a lot of the trunk was

shells shells was a lot of the trunk I

meant to take him back to the beach but

I I forgot to be honest can I mention

one talkar SL news topic before we move

on oh are you familiar with the Civic

the Honda Civic yes there are many trim

levels there's a regular one there's a

hybrid one and there's the Civic SI yeah

it's also a Civic type bar but we don't

talk about that

one which do you think is most

powerful can I go with decompressed

national natural gas they still make

that one they still offer them no they

they haven't you would assume the SI is

the most powerful that's a fair

assumption not correct so the hybrid has

200 horse the SI has but the hybrid has

something like 40 more pound feet of

torque than the SI the hybrid's torque

is2 and the Si's torque is 192 wow 40 40

more pound feet in the hybrid the hybrid

is more powerful and it has a faster 0

to 60 time than the SI do they still

offer the hybrid with three Peds no Nick

and I are three ped guys what can I say

right so like the the SI makes sense I'm

sure it's lighter put three pedals right

now Dia no you don't oh no that's true

four

automatics that was true before too when

was the last time you had a manual car

oh that's so true yeah the

R8 RS4 no R8 was the most recent Years

Years uh me and you at least so if you

want the fastest Honda Civic get the

hybrid get the hybrid if you want if you

pull up in a Civic SI next to another

Civic don't drag race them because

they're faster well what if it's a type

R if you're you're in the type R no no

no the is f fastest the Integra Type S

is but but the hybrid gets you the best

fuel economy the best zero 6 time and

the most torque something to consider

it's crazy then you could go road rage

against a leaf and outrun them with your

that including in a CN yeah you could do

that in any car that's another benefit

actually you can do that in like a moped

if you try hard enough the new Civic

Hybrid 50 m per gallon combined 49

combined and I think you get a hatch is

there any drawback to this car no okay

we've said that the Toyota bz 4X is the

worst car on sale the Civic Hybrid is

the best yeah faster than the Civic SI

50 MP gallon what else do you

need mic robot

agre okay uh filipo give us our next

topic please oh the market report it's

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fine okay all right what we got some

market report topics one topic I want to

talk about Model S signature can we can

you pull up a Model S signature yeah

please that one pull that one up no that

one for the folks stuck in the 90s

what's the signature edition okay the

Tesla Model S comes out it is obviously

one of the most important cars of our

lifetime I mean you can't say anything

other at the time we didn't know that

though right like it was just another

startup BS car right they made the first

thousand of them were the signature

model which was red with these gray

wheels they were signed by Elon Musk

they true and they were all I don't I

don't remember this like the foundation

series it was like the very beginning

well sort of except the foundation

series turns out to now be the first

model

year but yeah this is like legitimately

the first thousand vins I have a theory

that these are going to be valuable

cards meanes everybody 53 Grand in 2022

for for a super low mile one but I

really think when you think about the

Tesla and the impact it's had and will

continue to obviously have on the car

market this is like where it started the

the Roadster is where it started but

that's kind of a compromised car that

doesn't really fit in with any of the

ethos of any car they made later this

was like the very beginning 2012 the

very first cars I have a suspicion that

in 20 years we look back and say I mean

they the door handles be broken and the

scen ETC ET we look back and say this

was the beginning this is a special car

you're next thing you're GNA talk about

is the same thing for Nissan leafes no

those cars had no impact then volt and

the leaf the first gen Leaf had an

impact it had a very small imp 64 miles

of range um I couldn't get from one end

to the Dallas metro area to the other I

don't disagree with you I mean like the

second sh is things that help it limited

defined by the VIN which I think does

help for like collectibility mhm um

limited production and they they were

truly special cars they had their own

color their own wheels like it was there

something to identify them I don't

disagree with you and like we saw

Roadster values go up a lot in the last

few years those OB are different

different body style I think it hurts it

that the model S still I don't think

this happens anytime soon but I agree

with you I think it'll be important but

I think as we look back and as other

Model S's sort of are just normal cars

we're going to say what was where did

Tesla begin and when you look at the

beginning of some really important cars

some of them have really become like

valuable Commodities like the original

Ford Explorer you can get one of I mean

those are 6 Seven Grand now no but

really I I truly think about this car

like someday well preserved Model S

signatures are going to be valuable cars

the beginning of this generation in 2012

and the end of this generation in 2050

will will both like the very end and

very beginning will both be desirable

that's so true this is a good point good

Insight I also think it looks really

cool like I'm not a big model S guy I

think it's kind of a boring looking car

but specifically the signature this red

color is cool the wheels are cool it

actually had kind of like a a special

effect to it um and it really was the

beginning of a whole new world like that

has not stopped since then do you

remember seeing them out for the first

time I remember when I was walking

around I lived in Atlanta when this car

came out and I remember walking down the

street in a nice neighborhood and there

was one in a driveway I was like what

somebody bought one of these stupid cars

a stupid Tesla like what an idiot and it

was a signature like this and I still

remember that that was in 2012 it was

the first really of like the real we

have actual range it's a normal car

doesn't look like a leaf yeah the leaf

came out for the 10 model year this came

out for the 12 model year come out

around like 111 12 but like this was

this Tesla obviously is the company that

changed the e space forever also you of

course remember this doesn't have three

rows but the model S early you could

have we're facing yeah they offered it

for a long time I don't think they've

had it and no longer the model S

signature such a cool looking car okay

Nick give us a market take please all

right another car I'm interested in

although it would continue my shameful

record of automatics is a clk63 black

series we just sold one you sold an

amazing one okay I would only want it in

silver contrary to our previous

discussion work what black they offered

them in black white red there are Reds

around but silver was like perfect it it

really showcases the the fenders and the

wide B what makes it not a $8,000 CLK

base Bas correct yeah um it's a gorgeous

car and during Co I remember sitting

around our car group and we all said oh

we miss the mark they're they're now

going for 110 120 they going up they're

gone Y and not just this one this one

actually was a good result they're all

now selling in like 80 you can maybe buy

to like 100 buys maybe an extremely low

mile one but they've come down and I

just think that's such a buy for bu it

is such a special car they only made it

for what one or two model years they're

really rare they look really really

really cool 700 Global so it's like a

real thing and it's not 700 Global of

some trim level it like actually

it's a very special car and at car week

this year you know what car got the most

attention CLK GTR okay well that's it's

slightly different it's a little more

modified but I'm just saying like there

is like a the heritage of this car the

specialness it's not like this you're so

right vaporware car yeah same car

completely it's actually the different

generation that's the second the comp

which which one is this I can't tell

it's a newer one the the the headlights

are conjoined instead of separate

jok I I do it's not an as Park owl it's

not some like vaporware car like it's

for 91 this is cool I believe it or not

I actually wrote on my list separate

from you that the CLK GTR is kind of a

deal yeah it is when you think about the

production level and when you think

about how cool it is and also not to

toot our own SES horn this is the one to

get and I really really was interested

in I was kind of hoping it wouldn't make

reserves so I could pop on in but it did

but this car had miles but not so many

that it was crazy but it had 46,000

miles so you could use it and it wasn't

stupid modified weird number of these

were stupidly modified which is it

didn't make sense nobody's modding

Mercedes but that happened and a lot of

the wheels get changed and these are

beautiful the perfect Wheels people

change the wheels it makes no sense this

looks like a touring car and those look

like touring car wheels like it's so

cool it is such a cool car it is an

automatic and it did have basically the

same interior as a regular CLK from that

era that's the only things that have

stopped me from doing it I reviewed one

and like you can get the tail out by

just thinking yeah it was crazy so much

fun the V8s in these cars just it's a

muscle car it sounds amazing it's got

tons of torque like it is it is not your

Grandy's uh Mercedes here and by the way

something a lot of people don't know

this was the only clk63 Coupe they

didn't do a regular clk63 Coupe they

only did a regular clk63 convertible so

it's not like there's the same engine in

a lesser I mean the convertible I guess

you could make that argument but like

they did a clk55 coupe on the previous

engine but it was way less power cuz it

wasn't it was never super and 4 500

whereas the the other the 55 was 362 cuz

they didn't know if the supercharg in

this car this is this is at 91 at the

very least you won't lose money on it

yep it's so cool why don't you have

one maybe after the qp5 this would be a

good consideration I've been trying to

talk him into a Diablo I'm I'm uh we I'm

watching two of them very closely he bit

on that one last week on this podcast

remember that's right something to watch

I've since been out bed but you know

we're we're watching that one um

speaking of 63 Mercedes I have a topic

that I think you will be interested in

we want to talk about our most of the

car we're most excited about being live

on the site right now and my answer is

the pteridine girka o Road r car this

car is a ridiculous vehicle it's based

on the Superduty Ford FS series uh and

it's a just absolutely massive absurd

thing Ford F550 and it has stuff like

road flares look at this aren't you

excited to have this oh and the crazy

part about this terter gerka oh sorry

the all of it isn't the crazy part no

believe it or not you know what the

craziest thing is the mileage but don't

look don't look don't look I was just

about to note that cuz that is wild okay

this thing I mean you've already seen

but this thing you it's absurd but it's

been driven 44,000 miles somebody like

daily a pteran and girka and what year

is it 17 it's only years old 2020 it's a

20 but it's oh it's a that's right right

so that's some serious mileage in not a

lot of time someone drove this thing

like a like it was a daily driver just

around that's wild it's got a Georgia

truck play like a like a like they only

put those plates on like semis and stuff

but it is that the pter but the thing I

was going to say to you about 63 amgs

the very next car live is something that

I think you would appreciate what is it

it is this ml63 this is the only car I

have ever seen with a widebody kit that

looks good and honestly I kind of think

this looks better than Factory I'm kind

what insane look at this this isn't so

bad I don't know I have no

idea heard of them does this not look

too terrible it weirdly looks it looks

nice right it looks decent for sure it's

kind of a tasteful wi bu I don't hate it

and I was thinking when I was looking at

I was like Nick this is a Nick this is

some Nick stuff I adore the ml63 for the

same reason we talked about that the the

motor itself sounds and looks amazing

you got 500 plus horsepower in a family

SUV and you can buy these I don't know

about the the widebody version but the

non- widebody versions everyone's afraid

of the the head stud issue but it's

they're pretty affordable power this one

does not have the original AMG V8 this

is a twin turbo V8 so it doesn't have

the headbolt thing um it's the nextg

model uh so it's got even more power and

I had this motor in an E63 it's

perfectly reliable but I think that this

screams you it's also in Portland Oregon

maybe a Cayenne replacement for your

family car that's pretty cheap

shipping yeah you want to buy my

958 yeah kind of all right all right we

can make desert challenge this is a

great opportunity for us oh all they C

through the this would be like selling

getting your wife into the SRT8 Jeep oh

yeah it's just a quaint little Mercedes

SUV that's so true it's just what it

looks like the fenders yeah because they

want to be sporty uh okay we're going to

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