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V12 Regrets, 911 Turbo Value Hunt & Listener Roast – Full Throttle Talk #39

V12 Regrets, 911 Turbo Value Hunt & Listener Roast – Full Throttle Talk #39

Full Throttle Talk Nov 12, 2025 121 min
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Full Throttle Talk #39 dives into the world of automotive passion with discussions on V12 regrets, the hunt for 911 Turbo values, and listener feedback. The hosts share their personal car experiences, including a love for classic 914s and the excitement of driving BMWs and Porsches. They also explore the latest automotive news, including Nissan's new motor for classic cars and the buzz around SEMA. The episode wraps up with a lively debate on backdating Porsches and the pros and cons of various models, making it a rich conversation for car enthusiasts.

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Term

dyno

"I think I saw the dyno."

A dyno is a machine that tests how much power an engine makes. It's used to see how changes to the engine improve its performance.

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Porsche 914S
Lothar Spurzem (CC BY-SA 2.0 de)
Car

Porsche 914S

"...nteresting. But to me, I really love hot rod old 914s. I think it's I think it's a great experience to..."
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Term

Nürburgring

"the history of the bulge fenders, you know, and that Nurburgring race or the cars that ran and, you know,"

The Nürburgring is a well-known race track in Germany where many cars are tested and raced. It's famous for being very difficult to drive.

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Chevrolet Monte Carlo
Greg Gjerdingen (CC BY 2.0)
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Chevrolet Monte Carlo

"...ing race or the cars that ran and, you know, the Monte Carlo rally and those sorts of things. I find a lot of..."
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BMW 1600
nakhon100 (CC BY 2.0)
Car

BMW 1600

"Well, this is the week of still driving my BMW 1600. I drove it for five days last week, getting much better at driving a manual"

The BMW 1600 is an older model from the 1960s that is known for being fun to drive and having a sporty feel. It's part of a series that made BMW popular for making sporty cars.

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Porsche 911
David Villarreal Fernández (CC BY-SA 2.0)
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Porsche 911

"...han I've normally done. Went with a group of old 911 guys where that was the newest car, which was a ..."
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Porsche 356 Speedster
Berthold Werner (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Porsche 356 Speedster

"That's a 57 speedster, 56."

The Porsche 356 Speedster is a classic sports car from the 1950s. It's known for being lightweight and fun to drive, making it a favorite among collectors.

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Term

SEMA

"...and SEMA was last week, which we'll get to in the next..."

SEMA is a big car show in Las Vegas where companies show off new car parts and accessories. It's a place for car enthusiasts to see the latest trends in the automotive world.

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BMW E21S
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW E21S

"Do you guys like E-21s? Are you guys indeed? I love them. I think they're cool. I think they're I think the E-21s."

The BMW E21 is the first version of the 3 Series, a popular small luxury car. It was made in the late 1970s and early 1980s and is appreciated for its style and driving experience.

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BMW 2002
Herranderssvensson (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

BMW 2002

"I'm like, they love 2002s. They love E-30s."

The BMW 2002 is a small car made by BMW that was popular in the late 1960s and 1970s. It's known for being fun to drive and is considered a classic today.

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Company

Alpina

"Oh, there you go. There's your Alpina. Yeah. Well, ours is Alpina."

Alpina is a company that takes BMW cars and makes them faster and more special. They add unique features and designs to the cars.

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Term

RUF

"It's like a it's a difference between being built by RUF and then a customer that took it to RUF to have RUF build their car."

RUF is a company that makes special versions of Porsche cars, making them faster and more powerful. They are well-respected in the car world.

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Porsche 911 GT3
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Porsche 911 GT3

"...ally got to finally, I did test drive that yellow GT3, which it felt good to start test driving cars a..."
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Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost
Spanish Coches (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost

"...knew it'd be kind of a chill. There was all like Silver Ghost from the 20s and that kind of stuff, which was f..."
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Porsche 911 GT3 RS
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Porsche 911 GT3 RS

"...y, busy week, Tim. As you can see behind me, the GT3 RS got a little run out on a damp, not rainy, thank..."
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Dodge Viper
ArildV (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Dodge Viper

"Some good cars that were there for part of that, including this Wild Viper..."

The Dodge Viper is a fast sports car with a big engine that many car enthusiasts love for its unique look and performance.

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Porsche 912
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche 912

"...found a buyer for the super little cool Hot Rod 912 that we had as well as the 82 Targa."

The Porsche 912 is an older sports car that looks a lot like the more famous 911 but has a smaller engine. It was made in the late 1960s and is popular among collectors today.

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Company

Nismo

"So I thought this was really interesting and really telling. Nismo was coming out with a new twin cam conversion motor that you."

Nismo is a part of Nissan that makes faster and sportier versions of their cars. They create special parts and upgrades to improve performance.

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Nissan 240SX
The pun stops here (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Nissan 240SX

"...So Dave was talking last week about how much he loves to 40s. And I saw this news article come out where Nissan is building this trick..."

The Nissan 240SX is a sporty car that many people like to customize. It's known for being fun to drive and easy to modify for better performance.

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Term

horsepower

"...Basically, it's a 300 horsepower motor that you can shove in these cars that."

Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The more horsepower a car has, the faster it can usually go.

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Nissan Sentra
LukaCali (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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Nissan Sentra

"I think the drives tagline was at cost as much as a as a Nissan Sentra. But it's it's super rad."

The Nissan Sentra is a small car that is usually inexpensive and good for everyday driving. It's popular among people who want a reliable vehicle without spending too much money.

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Concept

leaning into their history

"But it's it's super rad. It's really great to see manufacturers leaning into their history."

Leaning into their history means that car companies are using ideas and designs from their older cars to make new ones. This can make fans of the brand happy and help the company stand out.

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Nissan GT-R
先従隗始 (CC0)
Car

Nissan GT-R

"And you kind of knew this was coming because they do so much with the GTR that they would probably then begin to start expanding this to some of their other ranges."

The Nissan GT-R is a fast sports car that is famous for its speed and technology. It's designed for people who love high-performance driving and racing.

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Nissan Versa
formulanone (CC BY-SA 2.0)
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Nissan Versa

"OK, I think a versa. I think a Nissan versa's probably in that range."

The Nissan Versa is a small and inexpensive car, similar to the Sentra, that many people buy for its low price.

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Term

crate motor

"So I mean, is this Nissan's version of the Crate LS type motor? Is that kind of what they're doing?"

A crate motor is a pre-assembled engine that you can buy and put into a car. It's like getting a new engine in a box that you can install easily.

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Concept

restomod

"...or are they going to be in, you know, just restomods, the home done restomods? Because I mean, the problem with that, I think, is ultimately the guy who's going to go build a 240Z hot rod..."

A restomod is when someone takes an old car and updates it with new parts and technology, making it better to drive while keeping its classic look. It's a way to enjoy old cars without the problems they might have had originally.

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240Z
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

240Z

"...the guy who's going to go build a 240Z hot rod, they probably are on a budget..."

The Nissan 240Z is an old sports car from the 1970s that many people love to fix up and make faster. It's known for being fun to drive and has a cool design that still looks good today.

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Term

carbon fiber

"...that motor, 300 horsepower, carbon, fiber, body, everything done perfectly. What would you, what do you think the market value?"

Carbon fiber is a very strong and light material used in cars to make them faster and more efficient. It's often used for parts like the body to help reduce weight.

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Company

Toyota TRD

"Land Cruiser is a Toyota product from Toyota TRD, where they're basically taking a modern Toyota and putting it in an old shell."

Toyota TRD is the part of Toyota that makes their cars faster and better for racing. They create special parts and vehicles that improve performance.

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Toyota Land Cruiser
CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Toyota Land Cruiser

"Land Cruiser is a Toyota product from Toyota TRD, where they're basically taking a modern Toyota and putting it in an old shell."

The Toyota Land Cruiser is a big, tough SUV that can handle rough terrain and is built to last. It's popular for both luxury driving and off-road adventures.

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Toyota Camry
S5A-0043 (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Toyota Camry

"...an old shell. There there was even down to their Camry, they're making actually performance street cars..."
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Mercedes-Benz S-Class
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mercedes-Benz S-Class

"you're seeing cool Mercedes where they're taking an old S class body from the"

The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is a high-end luxury car that is very comfortable and packed with the latest technology. It's one of the best cars you can buy for a smooth ride.

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Mercedes-Benz SL 65
OSX (Public domain)
Car

Mercedes-Benz SL 65

"I think it's an SL 65 underpinnings. So, I mean, this is a little cartoon villain looking."

The Mercedes-Benz SL 65 is a fancy sports car that is both fast and luxurious. It has a powerful engine and lots of high-end features that make it special.

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Chevrolet Blazers
ArildV (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Chevrolet Blazers

"Hold on a second. And there was blazers and other other hot rods. But let's see."
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Car

Troy Indy Special

"It's called a Troy Indy special by 15 motorworks. And it was an aluminum body car with a Chevy 6.2 LS V8 swap motor..."

The Troy Indy Special is a special car made by a company called Troy Motorworks. It's designed to be lightweight and fast.

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Part

Chevy 6.2 LS V8

"...with a Chevy 6.2 LS V8 swap motor, 500 horsepower, nearly 500 pound feet of torque..."

The Chevy 6.2 LS V8 is a powerful engine made by Chevrolet. It's known for being fast and is used in many sports cars.

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Term

torque

"...500 horsepower, nearly 500 pound feet of torque..."

Torque is a way to measure how strong an engine is when it comes to moving the car. More torque means better acceleration.

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Honda Odyssey
TTTNIS (CC0)
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Honda Odyssey

"..., people are listening, right? OK, it is a Honda Odyssey, a late model Honda Odyssey with one of the best ..."
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Honda Civic
MercurySable99 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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Honda Civic

"...dyssey with one of the best type R Honda, sorry, civic type R integrations I've ever seen. And there's ..."
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Honda Civic Type R
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Honda Civic Type R

"...little bit fun. What's the best application of a Honda Civic Type R motor other than in a Honda Civic Type R?"
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BMW M3
MB-one (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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BMW M3

"... guys have any answers? The best, I think an E30 M3 or an E30 E30 BMW case like a case swap. Obvious..."
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Ford Gt
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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Ford Gt

"...placement for the GT, like another version of the Ford GT. You know, obviously, they're not going to do so..."
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Chevrolet Corvette
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
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Chevrolet Corvette

"I mean, yeah, that's how Chevy does it. Corvette, I mean, Porsche would be like a thousand thirty ..."
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Ford Mustang GTD
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Mustang GTD

"...and new ZR1 or a brand new GT3 RS or a brand new Mustang GTD, because it's all about the experience of feeling..."
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Shelby Cobra
Spurzem - Lothar Spurzem (CC BY-SA 2.0 de)
Car

Shelby Cobra

"...ainable. And maybe it'll be like the new Mustang Cobra R, like the the latest version. Or, you know, I ..."
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Tesla Roadster
Logti (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Tesla Roadster

"...re going to supposedly finally release the Tesla Roadster this year? And there's going to be pictures, who..."
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BMW M5
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW M5

"...l quick. A buddy of mine was in one of those new M5 tourings the other day and he drives fast cars a..."
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Porsche Taycan
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Taycan

"... fast cars and he basically told me that it felt Taycan turbo as fast. And from coming from him, that's ..."
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Aston Vantage V12
MrWalkr (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Aston Vantage V12

".... But this is a twenty twenty three S and Martin Vantage V12. I think this particular one had under three hun..."
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Lamborghini Diablo
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lamborghini Diablo

"... for a V12 manual. And by the way, that car, the Diablo behind you, if I had to say what Lam what 12 cyl..."
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Lamborghini Countach
MrWalkr (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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Lamborghini Countach

"...sically, to me, it feels like a continuation of a Countach. It's very manual."
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Mercedes-Benz Clk Gtr
MrWalkr (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mercedes-Benz Clk Gtr

"... an AMG hammer like this is. And, you know, like CLK GTR, like this is like peak Mercedes AMG, especially ..."
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Ferrari 512 TR
Mutari (Public domain)
Car

Ferrari 512 TR

"...h Paul. But OK, so going with my vintage, it's a 512 TR and a manual transmission. Or Paul, can you pull..."
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Chrysler 200S
HJUdall (CC0)
Car

Chrysler 200S

"... those cars with our movie history are in the low 200s. All right, OK, but this is the one you should h..."
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Bmw M
MrWalkr (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Bmw M

"...u got? OK, so for those who know me, I have a 99 BMW M coupe that I raised. I've owned it since new."
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Ferrari Ff
Ben (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Car

Ferrari Ff

"... it, I fell in love with this car. Now, it's the Ferrari FF, and I know they then did some changes and came ..."
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Audi 100S
Lothar Spurzem (CC BY-SA 2.0 de)
Car

Audi 100S

"...eally not great color, kind of tired one for low 100s, 115, 120. And you can find something like that ..."
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Lincoln Navigator
Kevauto (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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Lincoln Navigator

"...what it was. I mean, Julie preferred her Lincoln navigator over that thing. She could choose either one and..."
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Chrysler Daytona
Dodge Division of Chrysler Corporation (Public domain)
Car

Chrysler Daytona

"... And what's unique about this car compared to the Daytona, the Daytona is like a truck. These are transaxl..."
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Porsche 928
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Porsche 928

"...electronics and those cars, I know that I have a 928. Yes, they're, they're, they're all shit."
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Porsche 911 Turbos
Alexander-93 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche 911 Turbos

"...now, response to this, but segment four, Porsche 911 turbos. For those who don't want to spend new turbo mon..."
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Mclaren F1
MrWalkr (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mclaren F1

"... I don't I mean, it's the it's the evolution of a McLaren F1, which is is about as good as a car gets."
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Ferrari Daytona
Calreyn88 (CC0)
Car

Ferrari Daytona

"I think this one came up later. The Ferrari Daytona SP3. I just don't have a way to grab a picture o..."
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BMW 550S
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
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BMW 550S

"...t. And I have to say I've seen a ton of restored 550s. I mean, everyone I've ever seen is restored, bu..."
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Ferrari Sp
Rutger van der Maar (CC BY 2.0)
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Ferrari Sp

"So just so I got these right. My choice was the Ferrari SP three and you guys were both proposing two cars,..."
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