V8SP: Mark Skaife (Part 2)
About this episode
Winton Festival of Speed returns for 2026, and the conversation shifts into Mark Skaife’s later V8 Supercar years and Holden Racing Team leadership. Along the way, they unpack how rivalry and online bias can skew opinions, then zoom in on crash moments—like Glen Seaton—where practical, sensible decisions matter more than racing fandom. Skaife also gets technical and strategic: power steering failures, homologation choices, and how media/press conferences shaped the Ford-vs-Holden era. The hosts close with ideas for regional events and better ways to celebrate motorsport heroes.
Winton
"So there was an accident, I think you were with the Nissan team at the time, heading up to Winton or coming home from Winton or a test or a race meeting, that you come across a car like off the road somewhere."
Winton is a race track in Australia. The guest is describing being on the way to or from racing there when they came across the crash.
Winton refers to Winton Motor Raceway in Australia, a well-known circuit used for racing and testing. It’s the kind of venue where professional teams travel for race meetings and track sessions, which frames the crash story as part of motorsport activity.
Ford and Holden rivalry
"And probably if you think about the Ford and Holden rivalry, 50% of the fans are probably always going to be a bit of skew, just how it is."
This is the famous racing rivalry in Australia between Ford and Holden. Fans often pick sides, so their opinions can be biased.
The Ford and Holden rivalry is a long-running Australian motorsport and brand competition, especially prominent in touring-car racing. The hosts use it to explain why fan opinions can be “skewed” based on brand loyalty rather than the full context of events.
leading by example
"you know sort of key part of getting the best from the team at the time. Is leading by example [612.3s] part of that year set the tone, set the direction, set what's the expectation levels come along with"
It means the leader doesn’t just give orders—they show the team what “good” looks like by how they work and how they act. The goal is to set a standard everyone can follow.
In motorsport team leadership, “leading by example” means the leader sets the standard through their own work ethic, preparation, and decision-making. It’s about creating consistent expectations so the whole group performs at a high level week after week.
leading and team performance without trophies
"When's the time that you've led well? I mean it's easy to say you've led well because you won races [708.0s] when the team won or the the the championships were won or Bathurst was won but sometimes you [714.2s] probably lead well and we don't remember it or we don't see it because there's not a result that's [717.9s] connected to it because generally we connect the result to oh well you must have led well"
They’re talking about how a team can be doing the right things even if you don’t see a trophy. Sometimes the best work is the behind-the-scenes kind that doesn’t always get noticed.
The hosts discuss how leadership can be “good” even if it doesn’t show up as a trophy or headline result. In racing, that’s a reminder that process, preparation, and consistency can matter as much as the final podium.
Bathurst
"when the team won or the the the championships were won or Bathurst was won but sometimes you [714.2s] probably lead well and we don't remember it or we don't see it because there's not a result that's [717.9s] connected to it because generally we connect the result to oh well you must have led well and that [722.9s] was all great because look there's the trophy to prove it."
Bathurst is a famous Australian race track and race. Winning there is a big deal because it’s tough and hard on both cars and teams.
Bathurst refers to Mount Panorama in Australia, home of the Bathurst 1000 endurance race. It’s a benchmark event in Australian touring-car racing, so “Bathurst was won” is shorthand for a major, high-pressure team achievement.
escape road
"Jim got caught right at the end he had to go down the escape road with a lap car which basically stopped us from winning"
An escape road is a safety area on a race track you can drive onto if something goes wrong. It helps you avoid a crash, but it usually costs you a lot of time.
An escape road is a paved or prepared run-off area that allows a driver to slow down and regain control if they miss a braking point or get into trouble. On race circuits, it’s a safety feature, but using it often costs significant time and can ruin a winning chance.
lap car
"Jim got caught right at the end he had to go down the escape road with a lap car which basically stopped us from winning"
A lap car is a car that’s not on the same lap as the leaders. If you have to deal with it at the wrong time, it can mess up your pace and make it harder to fight for position.
A lap car is a car that is on a different lap count than the leaders—typically being lapped or doing the lapping. In race strategy, being forced to go behind a lap car can disrupt a driver’s rhythm and timing, especially near the end of a race.
HRT
"when I bought HRT in 2000 or the end of 2002 to go into 03 and the demand around that"
HRT is a racing team. The speaker is saying he bought into that team and had to deal with the real-world stress of running a race operation.
HRT is the racing team the host mentions when discussing buying into the organization around 2000–2002. In Australian V8 Supercars history, HRT is closely associated with team ownership and operations rather than a single car model.
ownership
"to lead that into the ownership thing in 03 was was was massive"
Here, “ownership” means being responsible for the team, not just the driving. It includes financial and people-management pressure that can be stressful even when you’re not on track.
In racing, “ownership” goes beyond driving—it includes managing budgets, staffing, and the financial risk that comes with fielding a competitive car. The host frames ownership as a major leadership challenge that affected his ability to focus and sleep.
Tom Walkinshaw
"the worst is probably 08 when I mean again Tom Walkinshaw and I never had one single argument about a car race"
Tom Walkinshaw was a major racing team boss. The speaker is saying he and Walkinshaw agreed on how to make cars faster, but the business side of the team didn’t go well.
Tom Walkinshaw was a prominent motorsport team principal and entrepreneur known for building and running racing operations. The host credits Walkinshaw with alignment on how to make race cars go fast, while also noting that others advised him on financial structure.
Craig Kelly
"I had Craig Kelly there for a few years prior to that to help me um Craig wasn't there in 08"
Craig Kelly is mentioned as a person who helped the speaker for a few years. In 2008, that support wasn’t there, and the speaker says the stress and conflict got worse.
Craig Kelly is referenced as someone who helped the host for a few years prior to 2008, implying a support role in team or driving operations. The host then contrasts that with 2008, when Kelly was no longer there.
Clipsill
"there were there were two the two rural standouts the first one was away at at Clipsill so I always used to use the first session of the Clipsill 500 as my marker of how I was driving"
Clipsill is the race track where they were practicing. Different tracks make cars behave differently, so using one session there as a “yardstick” makes sense.
Clipsill is referenced as the venue for a practice session that Mark Skaife used as a benchmark. In touring-car racing, specific circuits matter because track layout and conditions strongly affect lap times and car behavior.
power steering
"when we got into the races we had these power steering issues that were for whatever reason just went through a phase of power steering issues and the power steering it was actually steering itself"
Power steering helps you turn the wheel with less effort. In this story, it sounds like the system started acting up so the car didn’t respond normally to steering inputs.
Power steering is the system that reduces the effort needed to turn the wheel, using a hydraulic or electric assist. Skaife describes a failure mode where the car’s steering behavior became unpredictable—“steering itself”—which is a serious drivability and safety issue.
torsion bar
"you drive along a straight line and the torsion bar or whatever that was happening with pressuring the torsion bar across the"
A torsion bar is a type of suspension spring that flexes by twisting. He’s suggesting the problem might have been connected to how the car’s suspension was behaving under load.
A torsion bar is a suspension spring that twists under load to provide ride and handling support. Skaife mentions “the torsion bar… across,” implying the steering/power-steering problem may have been linked to suspension or chassis compliance effects rather than just the steering components.
Tom Wilkinshaw
"trying to drive the car you're trying to find the money you're trying to deal with the politics you've got the Tom Wilkinshaw entity and his people involved"
Tom Wilkinshaw was a well-known motorsport team leader in Australia. Here, the host is talking about the team/business group around him and how that kind of off-track involvement can affect a racing career.
Tom Wilkinshaw was a major Australian motorsport team boss and businessman whose name is strongly associated with building racing operations and expanding business interests around them. In this segment, Mark Skaife references “the Tom Wilkinshaw entity,” implying Wilkinshaw’s organization and people were involved in the team and deal-making that affected his driving career.
John Cranon
"John Cranon and I obviously remained you know in very close contact the whole time of that but John was also in a difficult spot at the same time because he was still head of HSV"
John Cranon is a person Skaife says he stayed in contact with. Skaife also describes him as someone who could help make decisions fairly—while noting Cranon had another big job at the same time.
John Cranon is mentioned as someone Skaife and the team stayed in close contact with, and Skaife suggests using him as an “arbiter” (a neutral decision-maker). The segment also ties Cranon to HSV, indicating he held a significant leadership role that complicated time and attention during the period being discussed.
HSV
"because he was still head of HSV and that was that was a really big part of Tom's empire building his businesses back"
HSV is an Australian performance brand/organization. Skaife is saying Cranon was still running HSV, so he had a lot going on outside the racing team.
HSV is referenced as a major organization Mark Skaife says John Cranon was still heading. In Australian motorsport and performance-car culture, HSV is strongly associated with high-performance Holden-based vehicles, and leadership there would affect how much time and focus someone could give to a racing program.
arbiter
"maybe use John Cranon more to be the arbiter and then have done some sort of deal with Tom"
An “arbiter” is like a referee or neutral judge who helps decide what happens when people disagree. Skaife is saying he would have used John Cranon to make calls more fairly and reduce confusion.
An “arbiter” is a neutral person who helps settle disputes or make judgment calls when there are competing interests. Skaife suggests using John Cranon in that role, implying that clearer decision-making could have improved coordination and outcomes for the team.
semi-separate
"rather than it feeling like it was semi-separate"
“Semi-separate” means the plan felt like two things that weren’t fully connected. Skaife is saying he thinks it would have worked better if the partnership felt more unified.
“Semi-separate” here describes how Skaife felt the business/partnership arrangement was structured—like it was partly independent rather than fully integrated. That kind of split can create misaligned priorities between racing operations and the broader business side.
services agreement
"the services agreement so I had a sponsorship agreement with Holden and I had a services agreement with Holden Motorsport when Tom went from managing Holden Motorsport to owning Holden Motorsport"
A services agreement is a contract that says who has to do what work for whom. In racing, it can lock you into using a specific team or setup, so you can’t just switch to another workshop if you want to.
A services agreement is a contract that spells out what services one party must provide to another, and under what conditions. In motorsport, it can control who you’re allowed to work with and what teams you can use for car preparation, effectively limiting your options even if you dislike how things are run.
Holden Motorsport
"with Holden Motorsport when Tom went from managing Holden Motorsport to owning Holden Motorsport ... so I couldn't if I didn't like what they were doing"
Holden Motorsport is Holden’s racing team/operation. In the story, it matters because his contract required him to use their setup, not another team.
Holden Motorsport refers to Holden’s motorsport operation/team structure. In this context, it’s the organization Skaife was contractually tied to for car preparation and participation, which affected his ability to choose other teams.
Nissan
"HRT and of course Nissan prior to that was there ever a time ... when we finished with Nissan we were close to going to Ford"
Nissan is a car brand. Here, it’s part of the timeline of who Skaife drove for and how close he was to switching to Ford afterward.
Nissan is a Japanese automaker brand that competed in Australian touring-car racing during the era Skaife mentions. He says that after Nissan, he was close to moving toward Ford—showing how manufacturer relationships and sponsorship networks affected driver/team decisions.
General Motors
"I think a lot of that was just because of my stance with General Motors I mean remembering that when we finished with Nissan we were close to going to Ford"
General Motors is a big car company that owned multiple brands. Here, it’s relevant because Skaife believes his ties to GM affected whether Ford wanted to work with him.
General Motors (GM) is the large parent automaker behind multiple brands, including Holden in Australia during that era. Skaife is saying his relationship/stance with GM influenced how other manufacturers (like Ford) approached him.
Rothmans
"we were close to going to Ford because of the Rothmans connection so of the day Fred Gibson wanted to go to Ford"
Rothmans was a sponsor brand that backed racing. Here, the host is saying that sponsorship links helped create connections that made a Ford move more likely.
Rothmans was a tobacco brand that sponsored motorsport teams and created marketing/relationship ties. Skaife references the “Rothmans connection” as a reason Ford was on the table, because it linked people and resources across teams.
Fred Gibson
"so of the day Fred Gibson wanted to go to Ford and Rothmans company Carfleet was a couple of thousand cars were all with Ford"
Fred Gibson is a person mentioned as pushing for a switch toward Ford. In the story, his connections and relationships influenced the direction the team considered.
Fred Gibson is referenced as a key decision-maker/driver figure in Skaife’s story about manufacturer moves. Skaife says Gibson wanted to go to Ford due to existing Rothmans-related ties and relationships.
Rob McInerney
"when we met with Holden um Rob McInerney who I loved it was just a sensational bloke um he was the executive director of sales marketing"
Rob McInerney is a person Skaife met during the Holden discussions. He’s described as a top sales/marketing executive, and the conversation suggests that business leadership mattered as much as the racing side.
Rob McInerney is mentioned as an executive Skaife met when Holden was being considered. Skaife describes him positively and identifies him as the executive director of sales and marketing, highlighting how corporate leadership and sales/marketing people shaped racing deals.
Ross McKenzie
"Rob McInerney ... he was the executive director of sales marketing um Ross McKenzie John Stephenson I think John Lindell was also there"
Ross McKenzie is one of the people Skaife says he met at Holden. The segment implies he was part of the leadership team involved in the business side of racing.
Ross McKenzie is named as part of the group Skaife met with at Holden. The context suggests he was involved in the sales/marketing or executive side of the manufacturer’s racing involvement.
John Stephenson
"Ross McKenzie John Stephenson I think John Lindell was also there"
John Stephenson is another person Skaife lists as being in the meeting with Holden. The context suggests he was involved in the decision-making group.
John Stephenson is mentioned alongside other executives Skaife met during the Holden discussions. He appears to be part of the sales/marketing or executive group influencing the racing relationship.
John Lindell
"Ross McKenzie John Stephenson I think John Lindell was also there"
John Lindell is the last person Skaife mentions as being at the Holden meeting. He’s presented as part of the executive group behind the racing discussions.
John Lindell is named as part of the Holden meeting group. Skaife’s phrasing suggests he was another executive involved in the business side of the manufacturer’s racing involvement.
amologation
"and the next part of the puzzle was who's doing the amologation and it was TWR and I sort of sold the concept of TWR doing a better job..."
Homologation is the paperwork-and-testing process that makes a race car legal under the rules. It usually means the car has to be based on an approved production design, and the homologation work can influence what the team is allowed to race with.
“Amologation” is almost certainly “homologation,” the process of getting a race car approved under a rulebook by proving it’s based on an eligible production car. In touring-car racing, homologation determines what parts and specs can be used, so who handles it can affect how competitive the program becomes.
TWR
"and it was TWR and I sort of sold the concept of TWR doing a better job than what Glen and Dick..."
TWR is a racing company that helps teams with engineering and race program work. In this story, they’re brought in to handle the “homologation” side—making sure the car is approved to race under the rules.
TWR (Tom Walkinshaw Racing) is a well-known motorsport team/engineering outfit that has supported major touring-car and endurance programs. Here, the speaker credits TWR with handling homologation work, implying they can manage the rule-approval process more effectively than the existing group.
behind the eight ball
"because they were all out there already testing I said we're going to be behind the eight ball behind those guys that are already running their cars..."
It means being behind and having to play catch-up. He’s saying they didn’t want to start the season late compared to teams already testing and getting ready.
“Behind the eight ball” is a racing/program metaphor meaning you’re starting at a disadvantage and must catch up to competitors who already have momentum. In this context, he’s worried that if the homologation/approval work lags, the team will be less competitive than cars already on track.
Lakeside
"my first win I got this amazing big big um it was from Lakeside and uh it was it was my car firing under the bridge down in the hungry at Lakeside..."
Lakeside is a race track in Australia. The host is saying his first win happened there, during a particular moment on the track.
Lakeside refers to the Lakeside circuit in Australia, known for touring-car racing. The speaker describes his first win as coming from a specific on-track moment there, which helps listeners place the story in a real racing venue.
PR teams trying to one up one another
"because the manufacturers [1907.0s] were so heavily involved totally not just in the promotions and that but you know the PR teams [1913.0s] are trying to one up one another yeah you guys on the track are trying to beat one another"
This describes motorsport marketing where teams and manufacturers use publicity to outshine each other off the track. In touring-car eras, that kind of PR competition often fed directly into merchandise sales, media coverage, and fan engagement.
Holden Commodores
"there's huge sales of Commodals and Falcons on the line at the time there's [1922.2s] punters buying merch left right and center"
The Holden Commodore is a popular Australian car made by Holden. In racing, it was one of the main cars people watched and argued about, especially during the big touring-car years.
Holden Commodores are Australian-built cars from Holden, best known in motorsport for their role in touring-car racing. In this era, they were a major part of the Holden vs Ford on-track rivalry and the fan culture around it.
Falcons
"there's huge sales of Commodals and Falcons on the line at the time there's [1922.2s] punters buying merch left right and center"
The Ford Falcon is a well-known Australian car made by Ford. During those racing years, it was one of the key rival cars against Holden models like the Commodore.
Ford Falcons are Australian-built cars from Ford that were central to touring-car racing rivalries. In the late 1990s through the 2000s, Falcons were often paired against Holden models like the Commodore in the same racing series and fan ecosystem.
poached
"well you think about it I mean Craig Lowndes being poached by Jeff Pilates and Fred Gibson and Co [1968.7s] to go from Holden to Ford like that was just massive huge front page of every paper"
In motorsport, “poached” refers to recruiting a driver from a rival team/manufacturer, usually with a better deal or opportunity. It’s a big deal because driver moves can shift competitive momentum and also become major headline news.
Craig Lowndes
"well you think about it I mean Craig Lowndes being poached by Jeff Pilates and Fred Gibson and Co [1968.7s] to go from Holden to Ford like that was just massive huge front page of every paper"
Craig Lowndes is a prominent Australian touring-car driver whose career included major manufacturer-team moves. The transcript frames his “poaching” as a headline-level event, highlighting how influential top drivers were in the Holden vs Ford era.
Jeff Pilates
"well you think about it I mean Craig Lowndes being poached by Jeff Pilates and Fred Gibson and Co [1968.7s] to go from Holden to Ford like that was just massive huge front page of every paper"
Jeff Pilates is referenced as a key figure in the Holden-to-Ford driver move described in the segment. The mention is about motorsport leadership and recruitment rather than a technical racing detail.
podium
"“...I was obviously still on the podium but I just knew that I didn't drive that well...”"
In racing, "podium" refers to finishing in the top three positions (typically first, second, and third). Skaife says he was still on the podium, but felt his driving—and possibly the car—wasn’t as good as it should have been.
Clipsell
"“...it'll be different tomorrow and the next day was one of my best drives at at Clipsell and and fortunately we won...”"
Clipsell is the race track where he says things went better the next day. Different tracks reward different driving habits, so it’s a big part of why his performance changed.
Clipsell is the circuit Mark Skaife references for a key turnaround drive—he says the next day at Clipsell was one of his best drives. In touring-car racing, specific tracks like this matter because layout and grip strongly influence car setup and driving style.
press conference
"“...I used to love those 2000s in those press conferences before the days of social media and YouTube...”"
A press conference is where drivers talk to journalists after practice or qualifying or a race. Skaife treats it like an important moment to respond to rivals and set the story for what happened.
A "press conference" in racing is a post-session media event where top drivers answer questions and can shape narratives about performance, incidents, and rivalries. Skaife describes it as a strategic platform—almost like a second competition—before social media fragmented coverage.
homologate
"“...whether you had a shot to fire at another driver a political point to make about parody or homologate whatever the technique...”"
To "homologate" a race car means the governing body officially approves it for competition. They check that it matches the rules and is based on an allowed production car.
In motorsport, "homologate" means getting a car approved under the rules so it can be raced. It usually involves proving the race car is based on an eligible production model and meets required specifications.
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