Which 1970s sports cars are the best buys? #313
About this episode
Hosts pick “best buys” from a wide spread of 1970s sports cars, starting with a caveat that these are “going to be recreational vehicles” rather than daily drivers. They stress practical buying checks—especially chassis and rust—and explain why “looks clean” can be misleading. The list moves through budget icons like the MG MGB, classic value plays like a Lotus +2, and higher-end choices such as Corvettes, Ferraris, and Porsche RS cars, with repeated warnings about authenticity and condition.
Dan Prosser and Andrew Frankel go through the listings to see whether a £6k MGB is better buy than a £35k Land Rover Series II, or a £120k DeTomaso Pantera. Which would they both take home, given a lottery win?
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daily driver vs recreational vehicle
"these are all by definition going to be recreational vehicles these are all going to be toys no one's using any of these as daily drivers which is one of the big sort of caveats"
They’re basically saying these cars are meant for fun, not for commuting every day. That’s important because a car can be a great weekend toy but still be annoying or impractical for daily use.
The hosts are making a buying caveat: these 1970s cars are being treated as recreational vehicles (“toys”) rather than daily drivers. That matters because older sports cars often have higher day-to-day friction—like maintenance needs, comfort compromises, and less modern drivability—so the “best buy” criteria changes.
MGB roadster
"okay number one okay I'll describe it to everyone who's not watching it's cheap a lovely little tell you what it is definitely cheap yeah a lovely little mgb roadster ... it's a 1972 car it's done 126,000 miles"
The MGB roadster is a classic British convertible sports car. It’s popular with enthusiasts because it’s relatively simple and fun to drive, and this episode is using one as an example of a cheap 1970s buy.
The MG B (MGB) roadster is a classic British sports car from the 1960s–1970s, known for its simple, lightweight layout and easy “open-top” cruising. In this segment, the hosts are treating a specific 1972 example as a budget entry point into 1970s sports-car ownership.
overdrive
"full speed manual gearbox with overdrive or not don't know okay don't know probably not then"
Overdrive is an additional gear ratio (or gear setting) that lets the engine spin more slowly at cruising speeds. On cars like the MGB, it’s often paired with a manual gearbox to make highway driving less buzzy and typically more efficient.
five mile an hour impact bumpers
"where their look was ruined because they had these five mile an hour impact bumpers and they were just really ugly"
Those are bumpers designed to handle a small, low-speed crash. They were added because of safety rules, and on some classic cars they made the front and rear look bulkier than earlier models.
“Five mile an hour impact bumpers” refers to bumper systems designed to meet a low-speed crash requirement (about 5 mph). On cars like the MGB, these regulations led to bulkier bumpers that changed the original styling and are often cited as making the cars look less “clean” than earlier versions.
rot
"yeah lots of specialists will know exactly what to do if it's not full of rot and I think particularly with cars when the from the 70s"
“Rot” here means serious rust damage. It’s a warning sign that the car’s metal may be failing, not just looking old.
In classic-car talk, “rot” usually means advanced corrosion—metal that has deteriorated due to rust. The hosts mention checking for rot because it’s often the difference between a car that can be restored and one that becomes expensive or unsafe.
buyer beware
"i think with all these cars if we can just preface this entire podcast with buyer beware yeah I don't want to have to say it with every single one but it's obvious if you're buying a car which is a minimum of 46 years old"
They’re basically saying: don’t trust the surface. With cars this old, you need to assume there could be hidden problems and check carefully before buying.
“Buyer beware” here is the idea that buying a 1970s car isn’t just about how it looks today—it’s about hidden history and condition. The hosts emphasize that decades of aging, corrosion, and prior accidents can mean the car may not be as sound as it appears.
Lotus +2
"this is a again I think that's the sort of burgundy lotus a land plus two yeah I remember ... they re-bodied it for the plus two ... I love the original land so much it is so clean it's so small yeah those those are lands"
The Lotus +2 is a classic Lotus from the 1970s that’s basically a roomier version of the smaller Lotus two-seater. The hosts are saying it looks and feels different than the original, and that changed how people viewed it.
The Lotus +2 is a 1970s-era Lotus that’s best known as a longer, more practical take on the classic Lotus Elan formula. In this segment, the hosts discuss how the +2’s styling and packaging differ from the smaller two-seater Elan, and how that affected its reputation.
re-bodied
"they re-bodied it for the plus two okay I never liked well it's not true it's not"
“Re-bodied” means the car got a new body shape or body panels. It can change how the car looks and how it fits, even if the main mechanical parts are related.
“Re-bodied” means the car’s bodywork was redesigned or replaced while using the underlying mechanical platform. The hosts use it to explain why the +2 looks different from the smaller Elan, even though it’s still part of the same general Lotus family.
backbone chassis
"does it say whether it's had a new chassis on it it doesn't I don't believe no I mean that's probably because these cars were built around backbone chassis"
A backbone chassis is a car frame design that uses one strong central beam (like a spine). It helps support the car’s structure, and it can affect how easy it is to update or replace parts of the frame.
A backbone chassis uses a central structural “spine” that runs through the car, with other components attached to it. The hosts mention it to explain why older Lotus cars likely needed fewer full “new chassis” changes over time, and why aftermarket chassis builders could be relevant.
big valve twin cam
"13995 and which engine has got a big valve engine alert yeah 1.6 big valve twin cam okay okay so there's a sort of certain random element for you to absolutely"
“Twin cam” means the engine uses two camshafts to control the valves. “Big valve” means the valves are larger than usual, which can help the engine breathe better.
“Big valve twin cam” describes an engine head design with larger intake/exhaust valves and a dual overhead camshaft (twin-cam) layout. In this segment, it’s used to characterize the Lotus +2’s 1.6-liter engine as a performance-oriented setup for its era.
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C3)
"oh wow I would call that is that um candy apple red it's a chevrolet corvette stingray yeah um [655.3s] is that a c3 this is a well it's a 1973 car yeah c3 um it's done 102 000 miles yeah uh it's an automatic yeah"
This is a 1970s Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (the C3 generation). It’s famous for being a classic American V8 sports car, and the hosts are talking about how different versions drive differently.
The Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C3) is a 1970s American sports car known for its classic C3 styling and V8 performance. In this segment, the hosts compare a typical C3 listing to Richard Bremner’s example, highlighting how the right engine and drivetrain choices change how it drives.
LT1
"I've been ruined yeah because I've driven Richard Bremners yeah I'll contribute to Richard [698.4s] Bremner um has the best corvette of this era um it's an LT1 so it's got that engine in it"
LT1 is the name of a particular Chevrolet V8 engine. The point here is that this Corvette has a stronger, more desirable engine than some other versions from the same era.
LT1 is a specific Chevrolet small-block V8 engine family used in certain late-1970s/early-1990s Corvettes. In this context, the host says Richard Bremner’s Corvette has an LT1, implying it’s the higher-output engine that helps the car feel more responsive and “right” to drive.
limited slip diff
"it's got a manual gearbox it's got a limited slip diff in it it's got proper [716.8s] suspension and drive that"
A limited-slip diff helps prevent one wheel from spinning uselessly when you’re turning or accelerating. It helps the car put power down more evenly, which makes it feel more stable in corners.
A limited-slip differential (limited slip diff) helps manage wheel spin by allowing the driven wheels to rotate at slightly different speeds while still transferring torque to the tire with grip. The host credits it as part of why Bremner’s Corvette can take corners more confidently instead of “falling over” when pushed.
manual gearbox
"um the [711.5s] high output engine it's got a manual gearbox it's got a limited slip diff in it"
A manual gearbox is the kind where you change gears yourself with a clutch pedal and shifter. The host likes it because it makes the car feel more connected to the driver.
A manual gearbox lets the driver select gears with a clutch and gear lever, giving more direct control of engine speed. The host specifically prefers it over the automatic mentioned earlier, implying it improves the driving feel and engagement.
high output engine
"um it's an LT1 so it's got that engine in it um the [711.5s] high output engine it's got a manual gearbox it's got a limited slip diff"
“High output” just means the engine is set up to make more power than the standard version. In this case, it’s part of why the car is more fun to drive.
A high output engine is tuned or specified to produce more power than the base version—typically via stronger internal components, better breathing, and/or more aggressive calibration. The host uses this to contrast Bremner’s Corvette with other Corvettes that may feel less exciting.
proper suspension
"it's got a limited slip diff in it it's got proper [716.8s] suspension and drive that and you won't believe how well an america you you look at that"
Suspension is what keeps the tires planted and controls how the car moves over bumps and while turning. The host is saying this Corvette’s suspension makes it handle much better than you’d expect.
“Proper suspension” here refers to a well-sorted setup (springs, dampers, and geometry) that controls body motion and tire contact during cornering. The host contrasts this with the expectation that older American sports cars will feel floaty or unstable, then says Bremner’s car doesn’t.
Renault Twingo
"you could spend the same money on a new electric Renault Twingo you could you absolutely could and a new electric Renault Twingo I'm sure is a very cheap car"
The Renault Twingo is a small, practical city car. The hosts are basically saying: for similar money, you could buy something newer and cheaper instead of an older sports car.
The Renault Twingo is a small city car, and the hosts use it as a contrast to a more characterful 1970s sports car. The point is that you could spend similar money on a modern, inexpensive electric Twingo instead of chasing an older car.
1968 Dodge Charger 440 RT triple black
"if you're gonna go down the american muscle route I just want a 1968 Dodge Charger 440 rt triple black ideally"
The 1968 Dodge Charger is a classic American muscle car, and the “440 RT” refers to the big-block 440 cubic-inch V8 paired with the RT performance trim. “Triple black” is an enthusiast shorthand for an all-black look (typically black exterior, black interior, and black accents), which is why it’s a highly desirable spec.
BMW 2002
"now oh I think this it looks like it's been modified this one just a bit doesn't look entirely standard this is a would you say bmw 2002 or a two 002"
The BMW 2002 is a compact, rear-wheel-drive “sports sedan” from the 1960s/1970s era that became a classic enthusiast platform. In this segment, it’s specifically discussed as a modified example, with the hosts debating whether it’s a BMW 2002 (they dismiss “two 002” as a mislabel).
lowered
"okay it's a sort of unusual off white gray kind of color yeah but it's been massively lowered yeah it looks lower someone's taken the bumpers off it"
“Lowered” means the car has been set up to sit closer to the road than it did from the factory. It often looks sportier, but it can make the ride harsher and cause more issues on rough roads.
“Lowered” means the car’s suspension has been adjusted so the body sits closer to the ground than stock. That typically changes ride comfort and can affect tire wear and how the car handles bumps, which is why it’s a key visual clue when judging modifications.
track day
"I mean it looks a bit like someone's gone halfway to triage in the track day"
A “track day” is when people drive their cars on a race track instead of normal roads. The comment implies this BMW looks like it’s been modified for that kind of harder driving.
A “track day” is an event where drivers take their cars onto a closed circuit for performance driving. The hosts’ “halfway to triage in the track day” comment suggests the car has been modified for more aggressive use rather than purely for street comfort.
wheels and tires
"yeah it looks lower someone's taken the bumpers off it yeah put the very non-standard wheels and tires on it I mean it looks a bit like someone's gone halfway to triage in the track day"
Wheels and tires are the parts that actually touch the road. If they’re “non-standard,” it can change how the car grips, rides, and steers compared to how it came from the factory.
“Wheels and tires” refers to the car’s contact patch and the rotating hardware that determines grip, ride quality, and steering feel. When the hosts say it has “very non-standard wheels and tires,” they’re pointing out that the car’s stance and handling characteristics may be significantly different from stock.
Alfa Romeo Giulia
"so their big competition were the sort of the alpha the alfettas um and yeah alpha julias and that sort of thing"
The Alfa Romeo Giulia is an Italian car that was a direct competitor to the BMW 2002. The hosts bring it up to show who BMW was going up against when the 2002 was new.
The Alfa Romeo Giulia is an Italian rear-wheel-drive sports-sedan/coupe platform that competed directly with BMW’s 2002-era cars. The hosts mention it as part of the “big competition” when the 2002 arrived, highlighting the classic rivalry between BMW and Alfa Romeo in this size/performance bracket.
two-liter engine
"and then became the 1602 and the 2002 two-liter engine um really good car"
A “two-liter engine” means the engine is about 2.0 liters in size. Bigger displacement usually means more potential for power, and here it’s used to describe how the BMW 2002 evolved from earlier smaller engines.
“Two-liter engine” refers to engine displacement: the total volume swept by the pistons in the cylinders, measured in liters. In this context, the BMW 2002 is described as having a two-liter engine, which helps explain why it was a step up from earlier 1500/1602 variants.
Land Rover Series II
"let's move it on this is a bit of you then don't know what you're talking about so this is a Land Rover series two what's that color called that's not a series two isn't it"
The Land Rover Series II is an older, rugged Land Rover model known for off-road capability. The hosts are just checking whether the car they’re looking at is truly that Series II version.
The Land Rover Series II is a classic, boxy off-road 4x4 from the early Land Rover lineup. The hosts briefly discuss it by model name while debating whether the vehicle is actually a Series II, using it as a quick pivot to the next car on the list.
1970s sports cars best buys
"no what you despite the description what year is it it's a 1970…"
This part of the episode is about finding good-value classic cars. They use Land Rover Series models to explain why some older vehicles become expensive collector items.
This segment is part of a broader discussion about which 1970s sports cars (and related classics) are the best buys. The hosts pivot into Land Rover Series variants as examples of how collectible value can form around authenticity and utilitarian design.
body-on-frame
"…it is totally utilitarian yeah there's nothing on it which is there for any other reason than the purpose that it happens to serve…"
Body-on-frame means the car has a sturdy frame underneath, and the body is attached to it. It’s a common approach for rugged vehicles meant to do real work.
Body-on-frame is a construction method where the vehicle’s body is mounted to a separate ladder-style frame. The hosts use it to emphasize the Land Rover’s utilitarian design—built around function first, not styling or fashion.
bulkhead
"sure they had a new chassis make want to make sure that it had a new bulkhead um is it a two and [1232.7s] a quarter petrol I guess it is yeah it was just two point three so that is a two and a quarter"
A bulkhead is a strong metal wall inside the car that helps hold the body together. If it’s rusted or damaged, it can mean the car’s structure is in bad shape.
In car body construction, a bulkhead is a structural panel that separates compartments and helps carry loads. In older vehicles, checking the bulkhead is important because rust or damage there can indicate deeper structural problems.
Jaguar Etype
"that you can make them look very nice yeah for not much money and then sell them on for a lot of money um so just because I used to say this about e-type jaguars a lot um just because a car looks nice doesn't mean that it is nice uh now the good news about these sorts of cars is they're not very"
The Jaguar E-Type is an older sports car from Jaguar that’s famous for its looks. People like it because it has a classic, stylish design and it drives like a sports car. The podcast is also talking about how it can be a good buy-and-sell collectible.
The Jaguar E-Type is a classic British sports car known for its striking design and strong performance for its era. The podcast highlights how you could find them looking great without spending a fortune, then sell them for more—so it’s also being discussed as a desirable collectible. Its looks and reputation make it a frequent subject in car-history conversations.
chassis condition check
"um now the good news about these sorts of cars is they're not very [1282.2s] complex um it wouldn't take them long to figure out whether it was as good as it looks um yeah because they [1288.0s] would look underneath it they'd look at the state of the chassis they'd look under the bonnet they [1291.4s] take it for a drive they'd know how they should drive and if it didn't they you know the warning [1294.9s] bells would sound"
They’re basically saying: don’t judge a classic car by how it looks. Check the frame/chassis underneath, then take it for a drive to see if anything feels wrong.
The hosts describe a pre-purchase inspection approach focused on the chassis: looking at the underbody, checking the structural state, and then verifying drive behavior. This matters because many classic cars can look good on the outside while having hidden structural or alignment issues underneath.
short wheelbase
"the soft top is great you can get a hard top for [1303.6s] it and they're interchangeable uh it's a bit of a it's a bit of a faff um but it absolutely can be [1308.4s] done um it's obviously a short wheelbase it was an 88 inch wheelbase nice car if you like that sort [1313.8s] of thing"
Wheelbase is how far apart the front and rear wheels are. A short wheelbase usually makes the car feel more agile, but it can also feel less stable than a longer one.
Wheelbase is the distance between the front and rear axles, and a short wheelbase generally makes a car feel more nimble and quicker to rotate. The tradeoff is that it can be less stable at speed and may feel more “twitchy” on uneven roads.
Ford Mustang Boss 302
"okay what's next right Ford Mustang Boss 302 uh five liter four speed manual genuine it says [1340.1s] so this appears to be a genuine car um so what's genuine the four speed manual of the car [1345.6s] the boss I don't know"
The Ford Mustang Boss 302 is a 1960s-era performance Mustang built around the 302 V8, known for its racing-inspired tuning and strong enthusiast following. In this segment, the hosts focus on a specific listing described as a genuine Boss car with a manual gearbox, which is a big part of why it’s valuable.
four-speed manual
"okay what's next right Ford Mustang Boss 302 uh five liter four speed manual genuine it says [1340.1s] so this appears to be a genuine car um so what's genuine the four speed manual of the car [1345.6s] the boss I don't know"
A four-speed manual means you shift gears yourself using a clutch. On older performance cars, having the correct gearbox can be a big deal for authenticity.
A four-speed manual is a gearbox with four forward gears operated by a clutch and gear lever. On classic performance cars, the exact transmission matters because it affects driving feel, originality, and collector value.
genuine
"okay what's next right Ford Mustang Boss 302 uh five liter four speed manual genuine it says [1340.1s] so this appears to be a genuine car um so what's genuine the four speed manual of the car [1345.6s] the boss I don't know [1364.8s] over mine it's so when it says genuine car what they mean is it's a genuine Boss Mustang because"
When a seller says “genuine,” they usually mean it’s the real, original version they claim—not a modified or copied car. That matters because it affects what the car is worth and whether it’s truly authentic.
In classic car listings, “genuine” usually means the car is truly the advertised factory configuration (for example, a real Boss model rather than a lookalike). Buyers care because originality and correct parts strongly influence value and authenticity.
quarter-mile
"what Boss means it was the high performance it was their sort of well it was the sort of specification they'd made for people who want to go quarter-miling that sort of thing I think so ... you have so you would have had I don't know what the output of that engine is"
The quarter-mile is a common drag-racing test where cars accelerate over a distance of one quarter of a mile. It’s a way to compare how fast different cars get up to speed.
The quarter-mile is a drag-racing distance (one quarter of a mile) used to measure how quickly a car accelerates. The host uses it to explain why a “Boss” Mustang would be set up with performance gearing and an engine that stays in its useful rev range for that kind of run.
short gearing
"a higher up that engine might have short gearing in it it might have close ratio manual gearbox there you go so that'll that might be"
Short gearing means the transmission ratios are set so the engine spins faster for a given road speed. That usually helps acceleration, but it can also mean the engine runs out of revs sooner.
“Short gearing” means using gear ratios that multiply engine torque more aggressively, so the car accelerates harder at lower speeds. The tradeoff is that the engine reaches higher RPM sooner and may run out of revs earlier on longer pulls.
close ratio
"a higher up that engine might have short gearing in it it might have close ratio manual gearbox there you go so that'll that might be"
“Close ratio” means the gears are closer together. That helps the engine keep pulling instead of dropping RPM too much when you shift.
“Close ratio” describes how tightly spaced the transmission’s gear ratios are. Closely spaced gears help the engine stay in its power band with less RPM drop between shifts, which is why it’s often associated with performance and drag-oriented setups.
emissions legislation
"this is before the Mustang was completely neutered wasn't it by emissions legislation legislature what year is this 1970 yeah so there's pretty much the last year where you could do what you like"
Emissions legislation is government regulation meant to reduce pollution from cars. The host is saying that those rules made engines less powerful in the early 1970s compared with 1970.
Emissions legislation refers to government rules that limit pollutants from vehicles, which often forced automakers to change engine calibration, compression, and emissions equipment. The host uses it to explain why a 1970 Mustang could make more power than similar cars a couple years later.
neutered
"this is before the Mustang was completely neutered wasn't it by emissions legislation legislature what year is this 1970 yeah so there's pretty much the last year where you could do what you like"
“Neutered” is slang for “made weaker.” In this context, it means the Mustang lost some of its punch because of emissions rules and related changes.
In car talk, “neutered” is slang for when a performance model is deliberately made less powerful or less responsive due to changes like emissions controls, detuning, or added restrictions. Here it’s used to describe how later Mustangs lost performance compared with the last pre-emissions years.
fuel injective version
"they made the CSI [1618.5s] which had a much better fuel injective version of the same engine"
Fuel injection is a way of delivering fuel to the engine using electronic controls instead of a carburetor. The hosts are saying the CSI’s fuel injection makes it a better, easier-to-live-with version than the CS.
Fuel injection is an engine-control method that meters fuel electronically rather than relying on a carburetor. Here, the hosts say the BMW CSI uses a “much better fuel injective version” of the same engine, implying improved drivability compared with the carbureted CS.
homologation special
"they made the CSL which is [1623.4s] basically the homologation special which allowed them to go touring car racing"
A homologation special is a production car built (or modified) to meet racing eligibility rules, so the manufacturer can compete in a specific series. In this segment, the BMW 3.0CSL is described as the homologation special that enabled BMW’s touring-car racing program.
rust
"even my father's CS was a nice thing to go about the place and it was just pretty gutless [1667.0s] so I think that's a very desirable car I also think that if the condition is and they can be money pits I mean these things really rust do they yeah yeah um and in all sorts of places"
Rust is metal corrosion, and on older cars it can spread and get expensive to fix. The hosts warn that these BMW E9 coupes are prone to rust in multiple areas.
Rust is a corrosion problem that can quickly become expensive on older cars, especially in hidden seams and structural areas. The hosts specifically warn that these BMW E9 coupes “really rust” in “all sorts of places,” framing it as a key ownership risk and reason they can become money pits.
Ferrari 308 2.9 GTB
"right brosso corsa ferrari 308 um 2.9 gtb [1770.2s] 120 000 pounds um let's have a look at a few more details can you just go back from yeah [1777.8s] oh interesting I'll tell you what's interesting okay okay that's really interesting 1976 car [1787.0s] yeah um 36 600 miles yeah um go on then what do you reckon vetrol resina yeah is in the description I was going to ask about that what does it mean fiberglass okay glass fiber body [1803.4s] very very early 308s yeah have fiberglass bodies"
The Ferrari 308 GTB is a classic 1970s Ferrari with a V8 engine in the middle of the car. The hosts are saying that an early version of it is especially interesting because it used fiberglass body panels, which helped it avoid rust and made those cars more desirable.
The Ferrari 308 GTB is a 1970s Italian V8 sports car known for its mid-engine layout and iconic styling. In this segment, the hosts focus on a specific early-308 detail: some very early cars used fiberglass bodywork, which affected weight, corrosion resistance, and collectability.
vetrol resina
"go on then what do you reckon vetrol resina yeah is in the description I was going to ask about that what does it mean fiberglass okay glass fiber body [1803.4s] very very early 308s yeah have fiberglass bodies"
“Vetrol resina” is Italian for fiberglass, and in this context it’s describing the Ferrari 308’s early fiberglass bodywork. The hosts explain that these early cars used fiberglass instead of steel, which helped them resist rust and also reduced weight.
fiberglass
"what do you reckon vetrol resina yeah is in the description I was going to ask about that what does it mean fiberglass okay glass fiber body [1803.4s] very very early 308s yeah have fiberglass bodies um and because they were a they didn't rot"
Fiberglass is a man-made material used for car body panels. In this case, the hosts say early Ferrari 308s used fiberglass instead of steel, so they were lighter and less prone to rust, which makes them more collectible.
Fiberglass is a composite material used for body panels, and here it’s specifically about early Ferrari 308s having fiberglass bodies. The hosts note three practical effects: less corrosion (“didn’t rot”), lower weight than later steel bodies, and higher desirability because they’re rarer.
Peugeot 308
"... fiberglass okay glass fiber body very very early 308s yeah have fiberglass bodies um and because they w..."
The Peugeot 308 is a compact car made by Peugeot. The podcast mentions that some very early versions used fiberglass body parts. That’s just a different way of building the car’s outer panels.
The Peugeot 308 is a compact car, and the podcast specifically mentions very early 308s that used fiberglass bodywork. That’s a notable detail because it points to a particular construction approach used on early examples. The car is discussed in the context of how those early versions were built and why that matters.
single exhaust pipe
"also very rare single exhaust pipe oh now that was standard [1832.4s] but everybody there was a four-pipe option and everybody had the four pipes put on that [1836.2s] this one doesn't"
They’re talking about how many exhaust outlets the car has. Some Ferrari 308s came with one exhaust pipe, but many people chose a four-pipe option—so a car without the four pipes can be notable for originality.
The hosts are discussing exhaust configuration on the Ferrari 308: some cars had a single exhaust pipe as standard, while many buyers opted for a four-pipe setup. They point out that the specific car being discussed doesn’t have the four pipes, which affects originality and how it would have been ordered.
front chin spoiler
"this one doesn't um standard front chin spoiler which is nice they were they they did a ridiculously [1836.2s] this one doesn't um standard front chin spoiler which is nice they were they they did a ridiculously"
A front chin spoiler is a small lip at the bottom front of the car. It’s there to help the airflow under the car and it also helps the car look “right” for that model.
A front chin spoiler is an aerodynamic lip at the very front of the car, intended to improve airflow and reduce lift. The hosts mention it as a standard/typical feature on these cars and note that the example they’re looking at has it, which contributes to the correct look and aero package.
Ferrari 308 GTB
"...0 they fuel injected the engine and called it the 308 GTB I don't want one of them absolutely got this coul..."
The Ferrari 308 GTB is a classic Ferrari sports car. It has a V8 engine, and the podcast mentions that this model uses fuel injection. It’s brought up because it’s a well-known Ferrari that people want to own.
The Ferrari 308 GTB is a classic Ferrari sports car known for its V8 engine and grand touring performance. The podcast notes that it became fuel injected and that it’s called the 308 GTB, which ties directly to its engine and model identity. It’s discussed because it’s a highly recognizable Ferrari from that era and a common target for enthusiasts.
fuel injected
"in 1980 they fuel injected the engine and called it the 308 GTB I don't want one of them"
Fuel injection is how the car delivers fuel to the engine using electronics. Here, the hosts are saying that when the 308 GTB got fuel injection, it didn’t perform as well as you’d hope.
Fuel injection is an engine-fueling system where electronic controls meter fuel into the engine rather than using carburetors. In the context of the Ferrari 308 GTB discussion, the hosts connect the fuel-injection change to a noticeable drop in performance versus earlier setups.
four valve heads
"then they did the QV which had the four valve heads much better power went back up to 240"
A four-valve head means the engine uses four valves per cylinder to let air in and exhaust out. The hosts are saying that this breathing improvement is part of why the QV version feels stronger.
“Four valve heads” means each cylinder uses four valves (typically two for intake and two for exhaust) instead of fewer. More valve area and better breathing can improve how efficiently the engine makes power, which is why the hosts say the QV’s four-valve setup is a step up.
mid-engine V8
"this was a kind of car that was designed in the mid 70s and obviously a mid-engine V8 rather than a front-engine VTOS so completely different in feel"
“Mid-engine” means the engine sits closer to the middle of the car, not out front. That usually changes how the car feels to drive, and a V8 is just the engine type with eight cylinders.
A mid-engine layout places the engine near the center of the car (typically just ahead of the rear axle), which changes weight distribution and steering feel. Pairing that with a V8 means the hosts are comparing how a mid-engine V8 sports car drives versus front-engine designs.
Mercedes-Benz Sclass
"asked to the to this was Mercedes going we can outrolls Royce Royce Royce that's what it was this wasn't a conventional like an s-class is today a mass produced luxury car this was a limousine this was the sort of car that diplomats and ambassadors and yeah high-up politicians and"
The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is a high-end luxury car made for a very comfortable ride. It’s meant for people who want a big, premium sedan experience, especially for long trips. The podcast mentions it in the context of how it used to feel more like a limousine.
The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is a flagship luxury sedan built for comfort, refinement, and long-distance driving. In the podcast context, it’s being discussed as a large limousine-style Mercedes rather than the more mass-market luxury version people think of today. That makes it a natural topic when comparing “top-tier” luxury cars and how they’re positioned.
Pantera
"... um that looks sensational this is a uh data maso pantera 130 000 pounds yeah um 5.8 liter this is a bright..."
The Pantera is a sports car made by De Tomaso. The podcast mentions it has a large 5.8-liter engine and that it can cost a lot of money. It’s being highlighted as a sensational-looking, high-performance classic.
The Pantera referenced in the podcast is a De Tomaso Pantera, a mid-engine sports car known for its dramatic performance and distinctive styling. The conversation mentions a “5.8 liter” engine and a high price point, emphasizing how these cars can be expensive and desirable. It’s discussed because it’s a standout classic sports car with strong enthusiast appeal.
American powertrains in European supercars
"there were around this time there were quite a few cars that were European cars which had American powertrains in them you think obviously there's Tomasso there was Monteverdi in this country there was Jensen doing it all sorts of examples"
Some European “exotic” car makers used American engines because they were cheaper and easier to get. The idea was: build the fancy body and handling, then use a big proven V8 to make it quick.
This refers to a strategy where smaller European exotic manufacturers used readily available American engines to solve the cost and complexity problem of building their own powertrains. The host explains the logic: if you can’t afford an exotic engine, you can still build a beautiful car and make it fast by dropping in a proven American V8.
push rod V8
"I think people do see them as Mongrels um because they haven't got some beautiful four cam v12 in them they've got a push rod v8 which you could find frankly in you know American horses trucks school buses whatever but that can be a virtue in some ways can't you"
A pushrod V8 is a type of V8 engine design where the camshaft uses rods to open the valves. It’s common in American vehicles, and the host is saying that “common” can also mean dependable.
A pushrod V8 is an engine design where camshafts push on lifters via rods to actuate the valves. The host notes that this kind of engine is common in American trucks and buses, and argues that while it can sound “un-exotic,” it can also be a practical advantage.
four cam V12
"I think people do see them as Mongrels um because they haven't got some beautiful four cam v12 in them they've got a push rod v8"
A four-cam V12 is a fancy engine setup with 12 cylinders and multiple camshafts to control the valves. The host uses it as the “dream exotic engine” that some people expect instead of a more ordinary V8.
A four-cam V12 refers to a V12 engine with four camshafts total (typically two per cylinder bank), which is a more complex and performance-oriented valvetrain layout. In the segment, it’s mentioned as the kind of “beautiful” exotic engine people expect in high-end European supercars.
Ford V8
"... it and having to explain why their car has got a Ford v8 in it rather than a Ferrari v12 you can see that ..."
A Ford V8 Sedan is a classic Ford car with a V8 engine and a regular closed sedan body. The podcast is talking about how people notice the engine type—like a Ford V8—when they expected something else. It’s mainly about explaining what’s under the hood.
The Ford V8 Sedan is a classic Ford model identified by its V8 engine and sedan body style. In the podcast, it’s brought up to explain why someone’s car has a Ford V8 instead of a Ferrari V12—highlighting how engine choices affect a car’s identity. That makes it relevant when discussing swaps, originality, and what buyers expect from a particular build.
flared wheel arches
"doesn't say flares and chairs uh what does that mean no it doesn't uh flares and chairs mainly that it had sort of flared wheel arches and Daytona seats in it"
Flared wheel arches are widened parts around the wheel openings. They usually make the car look more aggressive and can allow for wider tires.
“Flared wheel arches” are bodywork extensions that cover more of the tire. On classic sports cars, flares are often associated with wider tires and a more aggressive stance, and they can also be part of a specific desirable appearance package.
Daytona seats
"it had sort of flared wheel arches and Daytona seats in it I think and they are apparently the most desirable ones"
“Daytona seats” means a particular type of seat design that’s associated with Ferrari’s Daytona cars. People like them because they look right for the era and can be a desirable upgrade.
“Daytona seats” refers to a specific seat style associated with the Ferrari Daytona models. Enthusiasts often treat these seats as a desirable period-correct option because they’re tied to a recognizable factory look and fitment.
Ferrari dino
"dino's are absolutely wonderful things they call it a Ferrari dino they really shouldn't it's just a dino but that's just me being pedantic"
“Ferrari Dino” is a Ferrari model line that’s known for being a bit more focused and charming than the brand’s biggest, most powerful cars. People like them for their look, feel, and personality.
“Ferrari Dino” refers to the Dino line of cars built by Ferrari, typically associated with V6 engines and a more compact, lightweight feel than many other Ferrari models. In the 1970s context, Dino models are especially prized for their character and styling, even if they’re not the most powerful Ferraris.
Ferrari F40
"just the most if I could own one Ferrari it'd be an F40 obviously yeah but if I could own another Ferrari would be a dino"
The Ferrari F40 is a landmark 1980s supercar known for its raw, driver-focused character and for being one of Ferrari’s most iconic “last of the old-school” designs. The speaker uses it as a reference point for what they’d want to own.
least powerful Ferrari road car
"but if I could own another Ferrari would be a dino um the slowest Ferrari probably there's ever been certainly the least powerful Ferrari road car that has ever been"
They’re saying the Dino is the least powerful Ferrari you can buy as a road car, compared with other Ferraris. But they’re also implying that it can still be great to drive even without top power.
The speaker is making a relative performance claim: they’re describing the Dino as the least powerful Ferrari road car (with an exception for much older models). For enthusiasts, “least powerful” can still mean highly desirable because of balance, sound, and driving feel rather than outright numbers.
2.4 litre v6 engine
"tell us about the engine why it's special the engine is special uh 2.4 litre v6 engine 65 degree v6"
This is the engine size and layout: it’s a V6, meaning six cylinders arranged in a V shape, with a total displacement of 2.4 liters. The hosts are highlighting it as the reason the car feels special to drive.
A 2.4-liter V6 engine is a six-cylinder engine with a total displacement of 2.4 liters, arranged in a “V” shape. Here it’s presented as the special heart of the car, and it’s tied to Ferrari’s racing-derived V6 heritage.
65 degree v6
"the only 65 degree v6 that there's been it's a 65 degree v6 because when it was a two and a half litre engine in the front of Mike Hawthorne's 246 dino formula one car winning him the 1958 formula one world championship um they wanted a little bit more space in the fee so that they could put bigger carbs between the two banks"
A V6 has two rows of cylinders that meet in a V shape. The “65-degree” part is the angle between those rows, and the hosts say Ferrari picked that angle for practical reasons—mainly to fit bigger carburetors.
A “65-degree V6” describes the angle between the two banks of cylinders in the V6. The hosts emphasize it as unusual and historically specific, explaining that Ferrari chose this angle to create packaging space for larger carburetors between the cylinder banks.
carbs
"um they wanted a little bit more space in the fee so that they could put bigger carbs between the two banks um and that's why vitoio yano designed it as a 65 degree v6"
“Carbs” are carburetors, which help mix fuel and air for the engine. The speaker is saying the engine design made space for bigger carburetors.
“Carbs” is short for carburetors, devices that mix fuel and air before it enters the engine. In this segment, the hosts explain that Ferrari’s V6 cylinder-bank angle was chosen to make room for larger carburetors.
Ferrari F50
"people have often said oh we put a formula one car engine in our car I mean Ferrari said it about the f50 they absolutely didn't it might have been a distant distant distant relative but it was completely different"
The Ferrari F50 is a later Ferrari supercar that people sometimes describe as having Formula 1 roots. The speaker is saying that, in reality, the connection is more marketing than direct engineering lineage.
The Ferrari F50 is referenced as an example of Ferrari claiming a connection to Formula 1 heritage. The hosts push back on that idea, saying the F50’s relationship to F1 engines is more distant than people assume—useful context when they later talk about the 246’s V6 racing lineage.
spun to nearly 8000
"but the iron block was cast by fiat actually you're more likely to see a fiat badge on that car than you will a Ferrari badge because you know where to look on the engine you can see fiat stands because fiat cast the engines for Ferrari um but it's a very special engine it's gorgeous sounding it's spun to nearly 8000 which when it came out um in the late 1960s was pretty astronomical"
This means the engine could rev up to almost 8,000 RPM. The speaker is pointing out that, back then, that was unusually high for a car like this.
“Spun to nearly 8000” refers to engine speed (RPM) reaching close to 8,000 revolutions per minute. The hosts use it to highlight how high-revving the Ferrari V6 was for its era, especially compared with many late-1960s/early-1970s engines.
Ferrari 206
"Ferrari's well the 206 um which directly began the 246 uh Ferrari's first mid-engine car and you'd think that Ferrari not necessarily concentrating that much on a car chassis much more about its engine and it's a mid-engine car you'd think well a really early Ferrari mid-engine car might be all over the place in the corners"
The Ferrari 206 is an early Ferrari sports car with the engine placed in the middle of the car. The hosts mention it to show that even early mid-engine Ferraris could be fun and easy to drive, not just scary.
The Ferrari 206 is an early Ferrari mid-engine sports car that directly began the lineage leading to the Ferrari 246. In this segment, it’s used to explain why Ferrari’s early mid-engine layout wasn’t automatically “unstable” in corners—Ferrari’s engineering made it surprisingly forgiving.
Ferrari 246
"Ferrari's well the 206 um which directly began the 246 uh Ferrari's first mid-engine car and you'd think that Ferrari not necessarily concentrating that much on a car chassis much more about its engine and it's a mid-engine car you'd think well a really early Ferrari mid-engine car might be all over the place in the corners an absolute death trap quite the reverse"
The Ferrari 246 is an early Ferrari sports car with the engine in the middle. In this discussion, it’s the key example of how an old-school mid-engine Ferrari can still be controllable and enjoyable to drive.
The Ferrari 246 is a landmark early mid-engine Ferrari, and the hosts frame it as the first mid-engine car in Ferrari’s lineup. They connect its 2.4-liter V6 heritage to Ferrari’s racing history and argue that, despite early mid-engine stereotypes, the 246 is actually “forgiving” and fun in corners.
sub-brand
"What should we clear up the the Dino thing why is it not a badge to Ferrari? [2661.9s] Because Ferrari wanted to launch a sub-brand didn't want to devalue the Ferrari brand by selling [2669.2s] something cheaper um and Dino because Dino Ferrari was was Ferrari's only legitimate son"
A sub-brand is a separate brand identity created under a larger brand umbrella. Here, the hosts explain that Ferrari wanted to launch a Dino sub-brand to sell a “cheaper” model without diluting the main Ferrari brand’s image and pricing power.
Dino Ferrari
"Because Ferrari wanted to launch a sub-brand didn't want to devalue the Ferrari brand by selling [2669.2s] something cheaper um and Dino because Dino Ferrari was was Ferrari's only legitimate son [2676.8s] and he died very sadly in the 1950s 1956 I think at the age of 24 um which was far and"
Dino Ferrari is a name Ferrari used for a separate line of cars. It’s tied to Enzo Ferrari’s son, and the branding helped Ferrari keep the main Ferrari name exclusive.
Dino Ferrari refers to the Dino-branded Ferrari line named after Enzo Ferrari’s son, Alfredo “Dino” Ferrari. The hosts connect the name to why the cars weren’t simply badged as regular Ferrari—Ferrari used Dino as a distinct identity.
Porsche 911
"Okay we've got one more okay this is the last one um there we go portion [2721.7s] 911 2.7 RS touring a white car £475,000 a bit less than half a million quid so yeah 1972 [2732.1s] 108,000 miles has been used what side the steering side is the steering wheel on um it's a lefty"
This is a Porsche 911 that uses a 2.7-liter engine and was built in an “RS” performance style, but with a “touring” setup meant to be easier to live with. The idea is: still special and fast, but more practical for long drives.
Porsche 911 2.7 RS touring refers to a 1970s Porsche 911 variant built around the 2.7-liter flat-six and RS (Rennsport) performance focus, then specified as a more usable “touring” car. In this context, the hosts discuss how the original buyer intended a lightweight RS-style car but the final build was altered into a touring specification for long-distance driving.
homologated
"Okay so I'm going to take it at face value I'm going to say that it [2767.8s] is a proper touring um and that there are because there are so many sort of sort of stories about [2776.9s] this car so for instance I know someone who owned actually an absolutely genuine touring um but [2786.6s] it was sold new into Spain when it was first bought and I think that there were punitive [2792.6s] taxes on cars um above or maybe the car wasn't homologated so what happened was the car was"
Homologated means “approved under the rules.” It can affect whether a car is legal to register and drive in a country, and sometimes whether it can be used in racing.
Homologation is the official approval process that lets a car be legally sold or used in a specific country under the rules that apply there. In motorsport, it often also means the car must meet certain production/technical requirements to be eligible to race.
replicas
"they're obviously far more replicas of 2.7 rs's than there are real cars so you always need to be careful and know what you're looking at"
Here, “replicas” means cars that are made to resemble the real Porsche RS, not the original factory-built version. The warning is to check authenticity carefully because replicas can be sold like the real thing.
In the context of classic Porsche RS models, “replicas” means cars built to look like the original 2.7 RS rather than being genuine factory cars. The host warns that many listings can be misleading, so buyers need to verify authenticity before paying collector prices.
left hand drive
"certainly to a uk audience because left hand drive and it's a touring"
Left-hand drive means the steering wheel is on the left. In the UK, most cars are right-hand drive, so left-hand-drive versions can be less wanted by collectors.
Left-hand drive describes a vehicle configured with the steering wheel on the left side. For UK buyers, left-hand drive can be less desirable because the UK market is typically right-hand-drive, so it can reduce collector appeal and resale value.
touring
"because left hand drive and it's a touring um if it had been a lightweight um which are far far rarer"
“Touring” here means the car is set up more for comfort and everyday driving than for being as light and track-focused as possible. Collectors often prefer the rare lightweight versions.
In classic sports-car collecting, “touring” refers to a more comfort-oriented specification rather than a stripped, track-focused setup. The host implies that a touring-spec 2.7 RS is less desirable than rarer lightweight versions, which are typically valued more highly.
Aston Martin DB5
"...'d bought you know something like an Aston Martin DB5 you know five years ago and paid all the money fo..."
The Aston Martin DB5 is a classic luxury sports car made by Aston Martin. It’s known for being expensive and highly desirable. The podcast brings it up as something someone might buy after paying a lot of money.
The Aston Martin DB5 is a legendary grand touring car associated with the brand’s performance and style. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as an expensive purchase, reflecting its status as a high-value classic. That kind of background makes it a common reference point when discussing iconic cars and ownership costs.
cyclical market
"it may be just a cyclical thing it may be just fashion um I would bet that they'll come back"
They’re saying classic-car prices and interest can go through cycles. What people want right now might not be what they want later, and the trend could swing back.
A “cyclical” collector-car market means demand and pricing move in waves rather than rising steadily forever. The host suggests that interest in 1980s and 1990s cars may be temporary fashion, and that it could return as tastes change again.
buy a car you want to have regardless of its value
"you'll or your or your face losing your shirt over you for do so number one rule of buying old cars is buy a car you want to have regardless of its value buy for the right reasons"
They’re basically saying: don’t buy an old car only because you think it will make money. Buy something you’d still be happy to own, even if you can’t sell it easily later.
The host is emphasizing a collector-car mindset: buying for personal desire rather than expecting the car to appreciate. In practice, older cars can become “assets you can’t get rid of,” so the safest approach is to ensure you’d still enjoy owning it even if the market doesn’t reward you.
BMW 3.0 CSL
"if you can remember them which one would you most like to go from last in dino dino i'd be i'd be very tempted by this 2.7 rs but i think i might actually choose the bmw 3dc the csl would be my second"
The BMW 3.0 CSL is a classic 1970s BMW that was made with racing in mind. People love it because it looks and drives like a track car, and it has a strong motorsport history.
The BMW 3.0 CSL is a 1970s homologation special built around BMW’s 3.0-liter “Batmobile” era racing heritage. It’s famous for its lightweight, aerodynamic bodywork and its role in BMW’s touring-car and endurance racing legacy.
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