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Is This the The Prius of Ferraris?

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Is This the The Prius of Ferraris?

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Ferrari identity gets debated through generational picks like the F40 versus the Enzo, then the conversation turns into a “Prius of Ferraris” critique of positioning—whether Ferrari is being marketed like an appliance instead of a heritage brand. The hosts also pivot into practical car-life: rally prep oil and lifter worries, diagnosing an auxiliary fan via a temperature sensor, and a long thread on oil-pan/windage-tray fitment and clearance. Along the way, they argue about boxy JDM styling, project-car definitions, and alignment-driven tire wear.

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Term

heritage quote brand

A “heritage” brand is a company that people associate with a long history and famous past. The host is basically saying some people see Ferrari as a legacy brand, while others see it more through racing and raw engineering.

01:08

Term

motorsport

Motorsport just means car racing. The host is saying people often connect Ferrari to racing first, and then to what that racing reputation means for the cars.

02:39

Macan

Car

Macan

The Porsche Macan is a Porsche SUV. Even though it’s an SUV, Porsche tunes it to feel more like a sporty car than a typical family crossover.

04:21

Term

project car

A “project car” is a car you plan to work on and improve over time, not just drive. It usually involves upgrades or repairs, sometimes both.

04:24

w124 wagon

Car

w124 wagon

“W124” is a Mercedes-Benz model generation that many enthusiasts like. A W124 wagon is a good starting point if you want a classic-looking wagon you can customize with things like a body kit.

04:24

w123 wagon

Car

w123 wagon

“W123” is a Mercedes-Benz model generation. People like the W123 wagon because it’s sturdy and has a big enthusiast community, so you can modify it—like adding a body kit—without it feeling totally impractical.

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Lamborghini Kuntosh

Car

Lamborghini Kuntosh

The Lamborghini Countach is a famous supercar from Lamborghini. It’s known for its very distinctive look and high-performance reputation. People bring it up because it’s one of the most recognizable classic Lamborghini models.

04:54

Volvo V70

Car

Volvo V70

The Volvo V70 R is a sportier version of the V70 wagon. It’s still a wagon you can use every day, but it’s tuned to feel more exciting to drive than a regular V70.

04:54

Car

Wagon R Wagon

The Wagon R is a small wagon-style car made by Suzuki. It’s designed to use space efficiently so you can carry people and cargo even though it’s compact. The podcast brings it up as part of a wagon discussion.

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Toyota Celica

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Toyota Celica

The Toyota Celica is a sporty Toyota car, smaller than a pickup and built for driving enjoyment. It’s known as a classic “enthusiast” model from Toyota’s lineup. The podcast brings it up because it’s a recognizable Toyota sports car.

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Toyota Supra

Car

Toyota Supra

The Toyota Supra is a sports car made by Toyota. It’s designed for fast driving and is popular with car enthusiasts. People bring it up because it’s a well-known performance model from Japan.

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Audi TT

Car

Audi TT

The Audi TT is a small sporty Audi with a very recognizable look. Here they’re talking about how the interior materials from early models can wear out or degrade over time.

07:12

Term

gooey

They mean the interior surfaces can get sticky over time. Some older “soft-touch” coatings don’t age well, so the material can turn tacky and unpleasant.

08:03

Term

JDM

JDM means “Japanese cars for the Japanese market.” In this episode, it’s used to say the cars being discussed are the kind of Japanese imports people get excited about.

09:21

Term

body kit

A body kit is extra exterior styling parts added to a car, like different bumpers and side pieces. The host is saying they prefer cars that have that modified look.

So it's not in my mind a heritage quote brand whether they think it is is different than what the

World thinks they are the world defines Ferrari by motorsport by engine by noise by power by brutality

Especially everybody thinks if you were to go name the first Friday that comes to your mind every single person's gonna say f40

Nobody's gonna say a la Ferrari. They're just unless it's like well boy whose dad

I was gonna say depends on we were asking because it's always gonna be the Ferrari that was like the pinnacle of your generation

I I still think that 40 is what most people are gonna say regardless of what generation you're from

I don't know. I bet I bet anyone younger than our age would say the Enzo shame on their fathers

Hey guys, welcome to overcrest, I'm Chris and I'm Jake have a fun episode for you guys today

I've I've had the pleasure of actually working on a vehicle Jake. I've been working on some now

Say I didn't sell I have updates

okay

I

We've got a little bit of news later to some fun news episode. This is producer found one that she wants to chat about as well and

She wants us to she wants to talk. Well, I think

She wants to talk about

Talk to me about getting her a car cuz I well

She wants to set the record straight because after last week when we recorded I sent her photos of my

Macan that's for sale and she's reposts spawns. He was wrong. I don't like those well, but Jess

I'll give you a deal. It's gorgeous

Did you see the wheels? It's amazing

All right, well, let's let's start there. It was just Mrs. Producer turn your turn your stuff on here

What do you want?

Because I called you out of the discord and I said hey

And I posted a picture of your old rabbit, which we could probably pull that up

I'll pull that up while you

lambaste me or whatever is going on here, but

What do you want for a car because we went through this before and you said well?

I obviously know but what I like. What first of all, what do you what are you driving right now?

I am driving the station wagon. This is the last

The station wagon does not count the Mercedes wagon does not count. It is not a car. It is not a project

It's not your fun thing. Oh, so this that's what we're getting at. This is a fun

Chris said I wish that you would let me build you a car and I said yes

Go ahead build me a car, but then she said you know what I like, but I truly don't I truly do not know

What Mrs. Producer wants me to build ease a liar if it's boxy and

It's ugly a little bit ugly then I like it

Okay, that's so I don't I don't have a specific car in mind. It's what I'm hearing

I have lots of cars in mind. I could get it you again, but that's kind of that's not really

Talking about project cars. It's not a project car

I would like a w123 or a w124 wagon with a body kit that makes it look cool

Like a fancy body kit. Yes, or a

Kuntosh

Yeah, yep, yes, I agree 100% thank you. Okay

900 turbo in black. Oh

Yeah, I like that

V70 R wagon in blue

With the orange leather interior the baseball glove. Yep

And then I could be convinced into like a cool Japanese car

Like a Celica Supra, are you looking up Kuntosha valleys right now Chris? I am I was not

Valuable

672,000 dollars 672. I wonder what was some that has some like weird provenance to it. Yeah, see

Okay, so maybe not. There's all half a million dollars plus half a million dollars plus. I wonder what

Is there like a an old?

You can't registry add

For for a Kuntosh, can we see like historically?

Somehow mmm. Does Hagerty have that cool?

Yes, what are you looking for? I don't understand. I feel like they were like a hundred grand

At some point

Values 1984

Yeah

When they were new

All right, LP 500 s. Okay, how do we go way back in the day? Oh, we can't cuz I'm not

Well, I'm not I'm not a person. So that's not a person. That's wonderful

Okay, okay

Okay, so like these are like here's that what hold on what was this just like you have a collage page of like cars you like

Yeah, what is this? Oh, yeah, okay, so you started listing them knowing full well that you have visual aids

Like you clearly put this together for this list and then did not share it, okay

So that is the baseball glove interior hold on because that is a nomenclature that I specifically relate to the first gen

Audi TT. Yeah, well that was actually had like the yeah the like weird leather stitch thing

Yes, yes, you will not find

These v70 ours and any kind of decent condition anymore. They're all ruined

The interiors did not hold up. Well, they got all gooey, you know, remember how all like the early 2000s Volkswagen interiors got gooey

Well, they got crayon smelling

But the soft all the soft touch of anything early 2000s got gooey

Yeah, same thing happened in the 70s the interiors of them are not good that leather didn't hold up

You'd have to get a really really low mileage one to even make me

Remotely interested in that plus you already have a wagon. You do not need another wagon

I forbid I'm just telling you what I like. I think that's a Celica

This is a Supra Celica. Oh

Okay, and then

Admittedly, I don't know what these are all called. I don't know which is which but I like their shapes. Oh like a story

Yes, that's a Mitsubishi star in yeah, and one is a Toyota sore

Yeah, that's the sore. That's a import. Is that this one? I think that's a JDM

Thing Mrs. Producers going full JDM on us, huh? What? Okay, keep going now. No, you already

You get the vibe right it's all boxy

I like the saw lot of all the sharp lines

Uh-huh

I like the sub would be cool. Yeah, I do not want to own a sob

I just love these cars on this list and the kuntosh is there as well like

Everything's pretty reasonable except that I remember Nathan from FCP

Wouldn't you think these would be fun for you to have something new to work on that you do nothing about?

Yes, I think that is that would be fun to learn and

But I do not want to own or work on a sob Nathan from FCP

I was like had one that he was selling and so like that and he said they were absolutely

Everything's unique and special and design. Oh, yeah, they're weird or something. I am I'm not interested

It's not not anything I'd be interested but a starian or a Chrysler conquest which are the same things

Also here. They're not you know own but

Would be willing to give it a shot actually have those box flares on there either

No, I think whatever I want needs to have a body kit on it to make it look awesome

Yeah, they all have those box flares, dude. That's that's what's not where is what am I missing? What what?

What am I missing on this list? Oh boy? What what are you missing from boxy?

80s cars like boxy 80s ugly cars for the list is very long

I'm gonna show Jake that he's wrong about the box flares. Here's a

That one looked like it had some type of overvendor situation going on. I don't think so. I think all of these have pretty crazy box flares

What about RX sevens Jess no

See look that's factory yes

That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Yeah, it looks like if

Hold on that

looks less

88 these what's this one? I?

Don't know anything the red one or

Jake wants us to go to the one that proves his point even though it

99% of the other ones on this page you click done

Every single one has one you're like, I'm right. That's it's a lie

Jake's wrong. See lies. You're right. Well. I didn't know if it was like a weird JDM market only thing

Anyways, this is producer. You're you're getting none of these but I will keep my eye open so

What about RX seven Jess sorry? I

Don't think I like those

They sound stupid to just one RX. That's the best part of them. It's a row. No, they sound like bees. They sound like

Yeah, as soon as you start to drive them, it's it's it's no good at all so

We're gonna move boxy Audi like a like a coupe quattro

Yeah, I'm over it. You wanted a short wheelbase

Quattro, yeah an s1 s2 of course. Well, yeah, but what about anymore?

What about a Volkswagen Fox? Oh, yeah, I like those foxes really and yeah, what's the

What's the other one the dasher? Yeah, the dasher

Is that what those are? Yeah, those are

What about a rabbit or pick our truck? I

Would drive a rabbit pickup truck

But I know that we've already done all those we've done

I need something to put grandpa's engine in

Probably would fit in that coontosh

Yeah, there you go. What a downgrade. So I started working on the driven death car

And I'm gonna show you what I what I got see if I can figure out this

Riverside's got some got some new fancy new features here. I know we love I logged in and it was all different interface

Well, I know you got your fancy

Oil pan

And turn my light on and show you guys the pan install

There she is

Can you see it kind of can you flip or something can I do that so thing I don't know

No, no, they don't want you to do that. I don't think oh

This is this is bad for morale right now

All right, well here she is

That's an oil pan

But look how like look how custom you made this

Yeah, because we 3d scanned in this whole thing right here

Right, look at how like this follows the arc of everything

This is where it was banging was right here and I can fit my entire hand in the spot right there now

So this is this is pretty dope

I still have to like take these off and tighten the oil pan up all the way

But I can honestly tell you that this was an absolute show me

You

Pretend the phone is a speed bump. I'm a speed bump coming at the car. I want to see that like the clearance profile

That's pretty good

Yeah, I think

It's about an inch and a half higher that kind of gives it your angle that you'd have right there

This is the obviously the subframe so it sits just slightly below the subframe itself

So we're good

Massive massive improvements, that's what I got done. I had to take it in now several times

Yes, I had it in and out a couple of times, but overall it was pretty easy

I had to jack the motor up pull the old pan off which had like this flange

That hey, Mrs. Producer will you run around in the house and grab that thing that I almost lost?

I think it's downstairs on

Well, I'll show you this this thing that I almost threw in the trash

Okay, I had to drop the motor down

Pull I had to like drop part of the subframe down take the motor mount out and like

Jack the motor up a little bit pull down pull up and like kind of like

finagle this thing over the middle cross member that was

That basically goes across the subframe to get it out and I

I

Got the other oil pan in the reverse of that obviously and then I'd be like set the pan in and then

Install the oil pump pickup tube with the pan in which was like my hands are all gouged up from like reaching in and out

And let's like trying to trying to figure this stuff out, but I was I said a

Text message to Mike Bros. I'm like dude. Do you have a 3d scan of a ZF gearbox because the

Obviously that part that

Covers the flywheel and protects the flywheel from debris is no longer there anymore

So you can look and you're just like looking at the light lightweight flywheel is just there

You're like well, that's not good

You can see the ring gear and the clutch and inside the bell housing is all there

No, it was part of the oil pan. It was before. Yeah, it's here. Look interesting

So this is the cover it would have been like this so it covers up the the bottom of the flywheel right out it, okay?

So I was thinking I was gonna have the 3d scan one and

He didn't have a model for it

So I started to like 3d scan in like the the face of the bell housing

I was gonna just make a plastic one and just 3d print it and put it on there

Just so I had something that would would make it not suck up a bunch of rocks into the into the bell housing and

Jesse comes in the other day and she goes hey, look what I found in the trash

Whoa

Yeah, this is I mean this this stuff that whoa

Made is amazing, but this I actually threw this in the trash

Wow, so she had found this for me

So I no longer have to make one. I'm glad because whatever I made throw that away

Because it was a giant box in the box was full of like packing stuff and I just took the box

I took the pan out of the box. Well, I just I

Didn't order this

So I just thought I ordered the pan so I didn't even know this was in there

So many thanks to Harper Fab for including this part, which is

So that'll be done

I'm wondering I was talking to Cam Adams

And he was saying some of the windage trays are differing if you if you look at this pan

I don't feel like picking it up again, but it's from an E34 and it has a

Integrated I think E34 pan has an integrated windage tray

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