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This coming up weekend, it is the San Diego International Auto Show happening at the Convention Center this weekend.
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But before we get to that, Courage decided to go up to LA and check out the Los Angeles Auto Show.
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So on this episode, you'll hear all about his trip to Los Angeles to check out what it was like to be at the massive LA Auto Show.
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You'll hear all the cool things, what he did, what it was like, all of that and more on this episode. Let's go.
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Okay, we are back with Courage.
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Courage the amazing, wonderful YouTuber of himself, big time in the car of space.
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Big time went all the way to Los Angeles to see the Los Angeles.
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Is it international car show? How do you say it over there?
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I don't know. Although they have a lot of cars that are companies that come out.
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But I think they just call it the LA Auto Show, I believe.
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Yeah, I've been to the one in San Diego every single year. It's been down here.
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And so the one in Los Angeles just happened to record this episode right now.
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And you decided just out of a whim just to head over there?
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So yeah, like similarly to you, I've gone as a San Diego one pretty much every year since I've been out here.
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And I would talk to a few people about the LA Auto Show, but it was spurred particularly by some folks in the in community.
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It was like, oh, you should go and like we actually got a discount.
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We got like a 10% discount through the SoCal in club.
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What does it cost for tickets? Is there expenses?
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There were like 20, 20. Well, with the discount, it was 21 bucks. So I think it was $25.
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Yeah, for an adult. Not bad at all. Yeah, I definitely worth it.
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Okay. Yeah, man. So I know the one in San Diego is about the same price, but it's much, much smaller.
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I heard the one in LA is like, is like massive.
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Oh yeah. Yeah. And if you talk about costs, because they're about the same cost, but it totally different scales.
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I mean, you know, San Diego's, I enjoyed it.
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And it was always kind of like this sort of tradition around like New Year's time to go to the San Diego Auto Show.
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But, you know, being that I had never gone to the LA Auto Show, I was kind of blown away at just the scale of the show overall.
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So where do they have the thing physically at in Los Angeles?
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Yeah. So it's at the LA Convention Center, which is right across from the crypto arena in LA.
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That's where the Lakers play, right?
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Yeah, I see. I stayed there. I mean, I stayed across from there, but yeah, I know exactly where that is.
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And the LA Convention Center, I'm not too familiar with exactly where that. I've probably seen it.
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I've probably driven by it.
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And now is it bigger than the San Diego Convention Center about the same size?
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That's an interesting question.
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I'm not sure because San Diego's Convention Center is like, it spans like a couple of blocks in terms of like from the start.
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Because if you're familiar with San Diego, I know you are.
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But just people listening is, you know, it sort of overlooks a little bit of like the coastal area.
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There's like a little bay area there.
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And it's a really long convention center that spans like a couple of blocks near like the gas lamp area.
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But it has only has two levels and it's not very, I guess it's not very wide.
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Like there's two levels and a lot of times really the auto show is only in like one part of that.
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So with the LA auto show, I felt like it was a lot larger of a space because they had totally different sections.
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They had like a West Wing, a South Wing.
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There was another part that I don't even think we made it to.
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And there's just a lot of different.
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Maybe Chevy and like that's it.
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So did this one have like all that kind of stuff too?
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Or is it just purely like a SEMA show?
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My neighbor just this part, but if you can hear that, that's him leaving with his loud motorcycle right now.
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So I apologize if you can hear that.
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But yeah, it was, it was about it.
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I've noticed the drop off as well, you know, even with the San Diego, a San Diego auto show.
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I remember when BMW and Mercedes came out and, you know, to the point where they had stopped
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and it was like a lot of like Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, you know, that, that realm.
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And I think it was really the same.
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I heard, I talked to a couple of people there at the LA auto show and they said the same thing
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that, you know, there was a year where it was, you know, just flooded with brands, all kinds of brands.
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And that was really, you know, you just, you, you couldn't make it to everything in one day
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because there were just so many brands to the point now where it's, it's definitely condensed a bit.
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Although, you know, I think that now it's sort of worked a little bit more in the favor of the show
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because the ones that are still there really invest a lot into their boots or their,
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I guess you can say they're displaced.
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Now, did they even give out paperwork anymore?
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Because I remember they used to be like, for years, I'd go over there with a little,
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like a little baggie they give you, like Toyota, a little baggie out.
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And like you fill your bag, fill off all of like the cool like swag.
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It was stickers, it was decals.
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And I think Sion was there to give out keychains and stuff like that,
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and they have all these like big pamphlet manuals.
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But over the last how many years, everything's gone digital where it's like to scan the website
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or look at the website or whatever.
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Is it like that they're two at the LA show?
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And I do think that their biggest goal a lot of times is just to be totally honest,
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they really just want to get your information so that they can follow up with you.
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What do you test drive?
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Toilet dealers, Alexis dealers, Jeep dealers, they all got my email from all the different
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test drives, all the different things.
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And I get it, you know, from that perspective that, you know, again,
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what they invest in these displays and putting this all together, it's a lot of money.
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Like some of the things that they had, like Volkswagen had this one like thing that was totally,
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it was totally tailored to kids, which is really interesting.
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But they had them, they like had guys that were giving kids out, like when we got there,
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they would, even if you had like three kids, like they give each individual kid this little box
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that had this car that you could just kind of put together.
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And it was just like one screw that you could kind of screw in with a hex bolt.
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Oh, I think I've seen that.
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They give you, they give all the kids the cars, they let them like sit there and
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actually color it and like design it and do little things to it.
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And then they just let them like, you know, race on this little racetrack,
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this little downhill racetrack that they have.
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And, you know, even that, you know, just the fact that like every time I was watching them,
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because we were there for probably an hour, because the kids just did not want to leave.
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But you saw them like when they started running out of like these cars,
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they'd like had this huge box full of like more cars that they would then like get out
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and get ready for more kids to come.
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And just like all the things that they're investing in this sort of experience
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that they're trying to build to make the brand more memorable.
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I sort of understand why they want to find a way to convert that into
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interested buyers at the end of the day.
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I think a lot of them do that.
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I mean, one year there was a rock climbing wall.
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One year I was here, the kids did that.
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They had these little electric like, like, I don't know what you call them,
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like little babies, you know, electric, you know, Jeep cars.
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They were like going around a track.
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My kids did that when they were really little.
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And, you know, of course the test tracks.
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I remember one year I did the two years.
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I did the actual off road with the Toyota where they had to you drive.
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It was a dirt off road track at the back of the convention center,
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the back parking lot is being dirt off road course.
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I did the Toyota truck and I did the FJ cruiser on the on the course.
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And ever since then they started doing the Jeep track inside and
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they would, you would be a ride along.
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They would actually drive.
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And then they took that out and made it as hunt this electric like,
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you know, cone course kind of a thing.
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But so how long did it take you to get over there?
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What time of day do you leave?
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They're really early or what?
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That's a great question.
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They're late or something?
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We didn't leave Sandy or Temecula area until like around 1130.
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You got to get in the car.
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I get kids in the car.
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My oldest, I know we texted about this a little bit.
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My oldest was just live it.
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Like he did not want to go.
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He knew it was going to be a long car ride.
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And he was just, he was like, leave me home.
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Like I'll stay home and I'll watch TV.
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And I'm like, that's not happening.
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And so we, we had a whole deal just leaving the house.
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And turns out, I mean, he had an awesome time.
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He was the one who was telling us he didn't want to leave.
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How ironic is that?
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So yeah, it was, it was a fun experience leaving.
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But yeah, going there, it took us right about two and a half
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hours to get there.
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And, you know, we, you know, traffic in it really traffic
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and sort of Riverside or well, not Riverside, but in like
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Lake Elsinore area going towards like Coronado or
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Corona, we get like a little pocket of traffic because
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there's a lot of people that are coming from like
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San Bernardino and Riverside that are trying to go
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like to the coastal cities.
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And so you get a real bottleneck there.
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And then obviously anywhere near LA is always packed with
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So yeah, it took us two and a half hours to get there,
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which it wasn't bad.
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We got there at right around like two o'clock.
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It was a Saturday, right?
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And what time did they, what time did they close that
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Cause sometimes they close earlier or whatever.
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I think it was around eight or nine.
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We left at like right at like six 30 or something.
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So we were there at good four and a half hours.
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And you think you saw enough?
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Cause I saw posts and things on Instagram and stuff that
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we didn't even see.
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So you get there around two o'clock, you said?
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So you get there, is there a parking garage?
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Where do you park when you get over there?
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That was another thing.
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Parking was very confusing.
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I, and maybe it's a little better.
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Maybe I know the lay of the land a little bit more
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with San Diego's auto show, but it was not very clear
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where you could park.
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There was, there was one parking spot, like a parking
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lot area that was sort of directing us to it.
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And when we got there, let's just say it was not a
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place that I wanted to park my car.
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You guys have got like tagging cars and graffiti
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It just did not, it was not conducive to like a
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safe environment, like parking lot.
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There's no actual parking garage there.
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Do you park cars there?
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There probably is, but they did.
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It just wasn't well marked, especially for people
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that don't know the lay of the land there.
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Like there's something to go every year.
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So they probably know, but we ended up parking in this,
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I guess it's like a shared parking structure for like
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an apartment complex there.
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Like one of those like high end apartment complexes
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where they actually have like valet parking for the
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people that live at the apartment.
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What kind of apartment is that?
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If you can tell, like as you're driving by,
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like this is one of those like real like upscale
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like apartment, you know, types of, I mean,
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I imagine it's literally right across the street from,
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you know, the crypto arena.
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I think it stayed a place over there.
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And I remember that when we parked our car in valet down
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the bottom, it'll get it or whatever.
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We were down there at the basement area and there were
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lots of like Ferraris Lamborghinis and a lot of
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Range Rover parked down there in like that bottom area.
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So I imagine that I think it was like a slash apartment
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building slash like, I don't know what it was.
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You got the penthouses.
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Like that kind of stuff.
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So you parked the car there.
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And it was directly across the street.
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Oh, it's even better.
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Take a little hike in the million miles to get to
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find your car to get to the place, you know.
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So did you see already about the tickets?
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You have them already on you online digitally.
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You had to buy them in person.
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And as I mentioned, we actually got a 10% discount
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and we partnered with Hyundai, which was pretty cool.
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They gave us a 10% discount.
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So, you know, just a couple of bucks off,
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four or five bucks off the ticket, but, you know,
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it was definitely pretty cool and to do that.
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Did the kids get it free or like that?
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I think it's, it's under six, I believe.
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She has something like that.
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The San Diego one, I think it was like Sundays was
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And that's usually the days we end up going is because of
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maybe I should go Sundays too, just because it's like,
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it's like, what do you want to do this weekend?
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You know, kind of a thing.
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You know, it's not a lot.
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Usually it's like a lot.
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I always wanted to go, but it's kind of been a last minute
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So I was like, let's go on Sunday.
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Let's make a Sunday day out of it.
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But so you go down there or up there, I guess,
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and then you park the car and you get into the place.
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Now, when you get into the building,
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is it, is it kind of what it's in the ego where it's
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like, you're kind of hit it off.
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Like, where do you want to go?
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Or is it like, it's kind of like set up in a way where
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we have to kind of follow this path.
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No, you, I, this is one where if you're going,
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I would recommend having a map to know where things are.
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Because when we, so there's actually two different,
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I believe two different entrances that you can come in.
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There's one, I don't know if the one we came in
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is the main entrance, but it would be sort of weird
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if that was the only entrance because to get
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to the other side where we were,
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we saw a lot of the like Hyundai and Toyota
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and some of the other brands.
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It's a pretty long walk to get over this like sort of bridge
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that takes you from the west lot or the west room
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to the south room of the convention center.
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But it's, there's a lot to it.
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Like the, the moment we walked in GMC and,
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and Hummer and Chevy had sort of a display
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and we got kind of distracted there.
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We spent a good like 20, 25 minutes just like,
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were you checking out the truck you drove?
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Yeah, they had one. Yeah.
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They had the GMC version, but yeah, it was there.
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You're like, I drove this, check this out.
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I don't know where these buttons are.
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I know I was driving this thing.
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I was taking a look at that.
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We looked at the Escalade IQ and the Hummer EV in person
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was pretty cool to see.
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That thing's just a monster of an SUV or of a truck.
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It's ridiculously overpriced too.
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I mean, it is a flex.
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It is like, look at me.
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I guess the first one was to think about it.
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They didn't depart from that, from that characteristic,
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Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
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But they're saying, well, at least we're green now.
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So suck it, you know, because there was like a point
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of gas on the thing was, but, but that's cool.
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The kids got to play with that stuff.
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Get the driver seat and like push buttons
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and pretend they're driving and all that kind of stuff too.
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Yeah. No, they, they enjoyed that.
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The, the cool, the cool part, honestly,
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when we first got there, though,
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before we even made it into any of like the main rooms,
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though, was we, we actually had to take a restroom break.
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The long car drive. I would too.
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We got in and we got distracted with all that stuff.
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And they were like, yeah, we should,
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everybody's got to go to the restroom. Let's go.
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And so we start walking towards the restrooms on this
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like West end of the building.
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And they, there's this one room where they had converted
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it into almost like, it looks like it's a parking garage
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because they actually had like the flooring,
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like as if like there were park,
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like, you know, parking spots and things like that.
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And it was a whole JDM style,
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like kind of car show type thing that they,
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they had kind of built in this little section,
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right? Where the bathrooms were.
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But then as you, there's, there's two little sections.
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And this is where I say,
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we spent literally an hour in this area
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before we even made it into like the main displays
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was like, they had the little JDM car show area
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on the, on like a far side away from all of it,
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not even clearly directed.
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this area where they had the original Supra
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from the Fast and the Furious.
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I'm not sure if you're familiar with like the Need for Speed
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game series and things like that,
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but they, they had the M,
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the M3 GTR from the most wanted series
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with the big wing, the blue and silver M3,
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they had that on display.
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And then they had like Alex Choi is like a big YouTuber.
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He has this really crazy built Huracan with like,
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with like these glass panels in the front along
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like the headlights and like all this,
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this just totally over the top designed Huracan,
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but they had that all in display on this little section.
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That's like, you could easily miss it.
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It wasn't defined at all.
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I thought I saw Hans like Sylvia S15 with the,
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with the orange and blue livery.
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And then they had some other just,
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they, I don't know if they're movie cars,
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but they were just, you know, kind of just, you know,
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very modified, you know, Japanese JD cars.
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I'm really curious about these movie cars.
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What I'd like to know is that are they truly modified
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or are they just cosmetically modified?
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Oh yeah. That's a good question.
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None of them had their hoods open.
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It's like a regular engine with like, you know,
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it's like modified.
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You know, the Z, I would say the 350 and probably the Sylvia,
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they probably have to be at least suspension wise because
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you could tell with the 350 that it had like,
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the way the wheels were turned,
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they had to have like upgraded the steering rack
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for like one of those like drift rack, you know,
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setups where you get a bunch of steering angle.
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So I would imagine if they went as far to do that,
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that probably there's some other modifications.
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The funny thing was that even though like pretty much
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everything, they were pretty well cleaned and everything.
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Of course they have a guy coming through with a rag
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and like some, you know, spray, spray wax
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or whatever they got.
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And even that same angle one,
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We just constantly,
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they just come spraying and wiping, spraying and wiping
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because people get their fingerprints all over them.
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And just that were those ones behind ropes,
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you couldn't get too close enough.
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A lot of those cars are kind of, you know,
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roped off. They don't want you getting too close.
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The other room I was going to say about the 350 though,
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they, the 350 had a, had like almost like a plastic bag,
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like take over the driver's side window.
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And so that, that was a little weird to me.
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Like I said, it was immaculately detailed,
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but then like it had a plastic bag over the driver window.
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It's like, okay, like that's not something that
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it's supposed to be that version.
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Cause it was in the Japan, you know,
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it's supposed to be in Japan.
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Should be right side drive.
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So maybe it was the passenger.
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It was, it was on what,
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it was on the left side of the car.
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But yeah, you're right.
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It probably, that probably was the passenger side.
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The other side was so tenant that you can't even see in it.
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That's a Hollywood secret, you know,
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they, they take all the cars, front windshield, everything.
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So you can't see the driver who actually is driving the car.
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It's behind the wheels.
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It kind of like it's a little Hollywood magic.
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You know, speaking of right side cars yesterday,
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I kid you not yesterday on the freeway,
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I was hitting on the up,
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I think it was on a 52 freeway.
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Anyway, I see this car coming behind me.
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It's kind of a lower Toyota.
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It looked like a, I wasn't too familiar.
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It wasn't like a sports coupe.
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It was like a Toyota.
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I mean the older Celica or something.
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It didn't look too old.
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It didn't look too new either.
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Anyways, the guy was on the right side.
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He was driving on the right side of the car.
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The guy driving it.
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I looked at it twice.
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I'm like, what, that guy's on the wrong side.
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Look at that thing.
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It's just out of Japan, whatever it was.
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And, and he had it on the right side.
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So that's very interesting.
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But anyways, back to the auto show.
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So you're there at the auto show,
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walking around from booth to booth, just in awe.
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The kids are probably just jumping around from car to car.
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Every car you can get their hands on.
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They probably jumped in, right?
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One, one quick thing I want to add on that little section there,
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though, is there was a room there that was sponsored,
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I guess, by this company.
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I don't, I'm not sure the company and I won't shout them out
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because they aren't doing anything.
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But they, they, they had this particular room that I think
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was tied to like a casino or something of that sort.
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They had, there were, I was just super well,
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just like with the lighting, perfect and everything.
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They had a, they had three cars from the Peterson museum
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that they displayed.
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They had a, they had a SLR McLaren,
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a mick condition NSX, the nineties,
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like early 2000s NSX.
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And then I can, I'm blanking on the other car
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that they had it on the far left.
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I have pictures of it, but I can't remember.
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And then they had a couple of race cars kind of here
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and there, like actual, like, you know,
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Le Mans race cars and things like that.
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But this one room, like I said, it's like, you know,
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a hundred million dollar room where you just walk in
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like unsuspecting of what you're about to behold
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in terms of the cars that are in it.
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And again, like this was all before we actually made it
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to the actual show.
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It was, it was pretty cool.
21:08
Porsche had actually a little section too
21:10
when they had a Carrera GT and a Porsche 918,
21:14
just like right as you kind of enter to like the,
21:18
And then they had like a lot of their 911 STs
21:20
and things like that.
21:21
But yeah, like the, the special rooms,
21:24
I think is really what made the LA auto show for me
21:27
at least stand out so much more than the SD one.
21:30
It's like one big room with like different,
21:33
like little, little exhibit.
21:34
You kind of like wander through it from exhibit to exhibit.
21:37
And you kind of just like wander through
21:39
like a big open space.
21:40
Like it's all open concepts.
21:41
So you're saying there,
21:42
they're kind of like apartment,
21:43
they have different compartments.
21:45
Just little compartments.
21:47
Like, you know, even, even on your way to like the,
21:52
which is the first little section that we went in
21:54
where Kia was more of like the dominant brand over there.
21:58
They were like the moment you walk in the door,
22:00
like they had a Kia and a Ford booth.
22:02
And so that was their little section there.
22:04
And then some other automakers.
22:05
If you, if you go to the right,
22:07
right before you went into the door,
22:09
there's another little room that, you know,
22:12
had a guy that I don't know if it was like
22:15
Carl Shelby's like, you know, son or like relative
22:18
or, or somebody that was tied to, you know,
22:21
just Shelby automotive, he was signing pictures
22:24
and signing posters for people.
22:26
I didn't get one because I just got distracted
22:28
by a whole bunch of other things going on.
22:30
And, you know, they had some, you know,
22:32
Lamborghini Aventadors and, you know,
22:34
F12 Berlinetta Ferraris and things on display.
22:37
And all those cars are roped off.
22:38
I'm assuming we can't get to those.
22:42
anything in the special rooms were, you know, really,
22:44
you know, they have, they have some of those
22:47
They have a little section of one in where it's like
22:50
You know, usually it's like a few Lamborghinis
22:52
and vintage Mustangs and vintage Corvette
22:56
And they're all behind the rope.
22:57
You can't really even like get close to them
22:59
or whatever and all that kind of stuff.
23:01
And even like the actual automakers,
23:03
like, you know, in their displays,
23:05
like they have certain cars that they,
23:07
you know, they don't want you to actually
23:09
like, you know, really interact with or
23:12
Like you, especially like pre-production cars
23:14
or anything like that, you know,
23:16
there were a few of those where they had some
23:18
pre-production models of cars that you couldn't
23:20
actually get in, but you could get up close
23:22
and see some details and things like that.
23:24
You know, I didn't even get to Chevy.
23:26
I'm not even sure which room Chevy was in,
23:28
but I saw that the ZR,
23:30
the ZR1X was on display.
23:32
That's the electric version of the Corvette.
23:35
So that's, yeah, the one with the,
23:37
so basically with the ZR1 with the flat
23:39
plane crank V8, but then also with
23:41
electric motors. Yeah.
23:43
Man, they're just stacking too much on there.
23:45
It's like, it's like when you go get the
23:47
the yogurt, the yogurt place and you get
23:49
all the stuff you want to throw on top,
23:51
all the sprinkles and cookies.
23:52
I instantly knew you were going to say something
23:53
about food. I was like, which,
23:54
what food references are you going to be?
23:56
But, you know, it's like, it's like,
23:58
like, hey Mason, they charge you by the
24:00
weight. Why, why are you putting like
24:02
those rock candies on there?
24:04
I mean, they're like so heavy.
24:06
You know, it's like a $20 yogurt all of a
24:09
The interesting thing about that though,
24:11
with the, with the ZR1 and the ZR1X
24:13
particularly is I remember a long,
24:15
a long time ago, not to go on a tangent,
24:17
but I remember that when the ZR,
24:19
when the, the e-ray first came out,
24:23
they, they had talked about the
24:25
e-ray in the sense where
24:27
like they, they knew that the
24:29
construction, like some engineers and
24:31
some people had like, you know,
24:33
basically talked about how the,
24:35
the Corvette chassis, the platform
24:37
for them to, to basically
24:39
have an all wheel, all wheel
24:43
both like the Z06, but then
24:45
when the ZR1 came out,
24:47
it also had the same construction
24:49
like center tunnel design where
24:51
they could all, they, they ultimately
24:53
could make it all wheel drive if they wanted to.
24:55
And it was really interesting
24:57
when the ZR1 came out
24:59
that people were like, oh well
25:01
there, the natural progression is for them to
25:03
just use, utilize the same thing they did
25:05
with the e-ray from the Z06
25:07
and just make an all wheel drive version
25:09
with an electric motor. And
25:11
that's literally just what they did.
25:13
They, they just took the same platform
25:15
and then just slotted their electric
25:17
motor in the front and made the ZR1X.
25:19
And, and it was like, you know,
25:21
it was pretty, I'd say it's pretty
25:23
genius on their part that they,
25:25
you know, they knew that this was just
25:27
how we were going to progress this forward.
25:29
We were going to build this in a way where
25:31
like we're going to give the internal
25:33
combustion guys what they want.
25:35
But we're going to always kind of have that
25:37
ability now to add on to it with the
25:39
electric, the electric side, the hybrid
25:41
side, and then make this
25:43
crazy hypercar monster
25:45
that the ZR1, the ZR1X
25:47
is, which is just an insane thing.
25:51
what is the price point for that thing?
25:53
You know? It's definitely over
25:55
two, for sure. I don't know
25:57
exactly, but. I mean people say it's
25:59
crazy expensive, but you look at some of these
26:01
Ferraris, you know, they're, they're that
26:03
like that's a cheap one. If you think about it,
26:05
like somebody like that, you know, and
26:09
it's like, what do you do with that?
26:11
You know, like, I mean,
26:13
do you just like put on display
26:15
or do you just take it to a track? Like, you know,
26:17
and just see how fast you're doing it.
26:19
You driving down the street and trying to enjoy it
26:21
like you're just going to jail. Like it's
26:23
just, it's not a matter of if it's when
26:25
like when you're going to push it in the
26:27
wrong spot and just go to jail.
26:29
I mean, YouTubers probably, you know, jump
26:31
with a chance to do that. And sometimes
26:33
YouTubers are getting crazy, not you, of
26:35
course, but some of the crazy ones are getting
26:37
crazy with their, with their cars and the
26:39
different stunts they're doing and
26:41
and just trying to overtie. It's like
26:43
they've almost done everything possible.
26:45
Like I don't know what you can do now, you
26:47
know, but I just think, I think
26:49
electric cars are fine. Listen, they have
26:51
a place, but having an engine, like a
26:53
real nice sound engine just sounds great.
26:57
I love the new Corvette, the new C8
26:59
dude, I want to want the engine in the back
27:01
and all that. I mean, they don't sound
27:03
like an exotic, you know, they sound like a
27:05
muscle, you know, like a Corvette.
27:09
really interesting too. Like, you know, I
27:11
actually really, again, I did
27:13
a video on this a little while back and
27:15
it was spurred off by like this guy
27:17
that does a lot of videos
27:19
for Hagerty, Jason Kamisa.
27:21
And, you know, he did a video on
27:23
like on all of the generations
27:25
of ZR1 and like the special
27:29
talked like briefly about
27:33
had to become sort of
27:35
a mid-engine platform sports car
27:37
slash supercar because there
27:39
was just a certain point, there's a certain
27:41
point where a rear-wheel-drive
27:45
just cannot perform at the level
27:47
that a mid-engine rear-wheel-drive
27:49
car can or all-wheel-drive car can.
27:53
talking basically like if you see
27:55
any like any clips of like
27:59
was, you know, I think it was
28:01
like 750 horsepower
28:03
manual rear-wheel-drive
28:05
supercharged. Supercharged.
28:07
Yeah, supercharged car like
28:09
trying to put that power
28:11
down in any scenario just
28:13
leaves you, you're just leaving a cloud
28:15
of smoke everywhere. And,
28:17
you know, it's sort of known as a bit
28:19
of a widowmaker because
28:21
it's just to control that on
28:23
a track is it takes a really kind
28:25
of skilled person to do. But
28:27
then they show a clip of the
28:31
literally just being able to outlaunch
28:35
and it literally has
28:37
1,000 horsepower to the
28:43
you're thinking well like a car with
28:45
1,000 horsepower is going to have even worse the time
28:47
getting off the line. But it was
28:49
just really cool to hear his explanation of why
28:51
a mid-engine rear-wheel-drive
28:55
had to go to now kind of
28:57
push all of this like platform
28:59
forward in terms of performance
29:03
Chevy was willing to do it because it wasn't like
29:05
they were trying to hold on to this like
29:07
oh the Corvette is this and we can't change
29:09
it. They've always wanted to
29:11
chase performance and the only
29:13
natural way to do it was to do that
29:15
with the C8. Yeah, I heard that they were
29:17
in designing, trying to design
29:19
a rear-engine Corvette
29:21
for years. Yeah. And it
29:23
was just happened to be the right time I guess
29:25
and they put something together and
29:29
far, I'm not a big fan of Chevy
29:31
I mean, but that's a Chevy
29:33
but that's a Chevy would buy.
29:35
Yes, the Corvette would be the one I buy. Yes.
29:37
Yeah, out of all, yeah, I'll take it.
29:39
Some people are like, they don't like
29:41
certain car brands but it's like the one car
29:43
that that brand makes. I get it.
29:45
That'd be the one, you know, I think for me
29:47
it would be the Corvette. And I'm like that
29:49
with the Mustang where I'm like, you know, I'm not
29:51
like a huge four guy but I mean, I will
29:53
take a Mustang like
29:57
any generation except for the Mustang
29:59
2 maybe. Yeah, Mustang 2
30:01
but I did hear there was a couple of versions
30:03
that had like the V8 in those things
30:05
I heard. Yeah, they did
30:07
some of the later ones. Yeah, but
30:09
I had a buddy who had one of those and
30:11
it was basically a Pinto. It was basically a Pinto
30:13
with a Ford with a Mustang badge on it.
30:15
So it was. Well, both of them did that too.
30:17
Chevy and Ford had that
30:19
era where they like, you know, they were like
30:21
yeah, we're going to pull like from some European
30:23
like small car routes and I mean
30:25
you know, Ford had the Pinto so they had
30:27
that ability to do it but
30:29
you know, even like the second gen
30:31
Camaro, it was the second gen, I believe.
30:33
Yeah, second gen Camaro, you know, they had
30:35
like the Berlinetta
30:39
There was like, I think it was a four
30:41
cylinder or maybe it was a V6 but
30:43
it was supposed to be more of like a luxury
30:47
It wasn't like they weren't at all really kind
30:49
of looking at like the usual like
30:51
pony car, muscle car, demographic.
30:53
They were like, you know, we want to make like a
30:55
really plush like luxury car
30:59
and they, I feel like
31:01
both Ford and Camaro had, or Ford and Chevy
31:03
had just kind of a weird time where they
31:05
just didn't quite know where they wanted
31:07
to take the second generation of their cars
31:09
and so they like, they either
31:11
borrowed a Pinto chassis and built
31:13
something off of that or they tried to turn
31:15
a Camaro into a luxury car and
31:17
they finally found their way
31:19
back a little bit and
31:21
you know, again, Ford
31:23
ultimately kind of won out the war because
31:25
the Mustang's still here and the Camaro's not.
31:29
Well, maybe they'll bring it back, you never know.
31:31
Dave, we had that point in 2000s.
31:33
Yeah, so you're right.
31:35
So, cars come and go and
31:39
Now, was there any car manufacturers
31:41
that were not there?
31:43
You're like, where's this brand at?
31:45
I sort of was surprised
31:49
wasn't there. Why would they be there?
31:51
They never go there.
31:53
I don't think of them as like a car.
31:55
It's a car brand. I don't think of them as like
31:57
an enthusiast's car brand. I don't know.
31:59
The only reason that I say that, and you're
32:01
right, like they normally don't do
32:03
that kind of stuff because just what their
32:05
model is, like, I mean, they technically
32:07
make their own auto shows with the way that
32:09
they have their sort of
32:13
displays and things like that.
32:15
Right, what if you buy them at a store or something?
32:17
They don't even go to a dealer.
32:19
Yeah, like that, I get that 100%.
32:21
The main reason I feel
32:23
like it was surprising was because
32:25
again, brands like Lucid
32:29
was there, Rivian's been there, so that's
32:31
not a huge surprise.
32:35
Oh, I want the Scout so bad, dude.
32:37
Yeah, Scout had a really cool display
32:39
outside of the whole thing as you're coming
32:41
in that we kind of wish we would have had
32:43
a chance to spend a little bit more time
32:45
in, but yeah, Scout was there.
32:47
And then obviously just the automakers,
32:49
the main automakers, and now
32:51
have their EV lines, like the Silverado
32:53
EV, the, you know, the,
32:55
I know Ford is thinking about getting
32:57
rid of the lightning, surprisingly,
32:59
but, you know, they were still
33:01
at the same location and
33:05
it was sort of a missed opportunity
33:07
mainly for Lucid to be there
33:09
and Tesla not to be there.
33:11
Because they're both EV companies, you're saying?
33:13
They're both EV companies, they're both, you know,
33:15
US based EV companies
33:17
and, you know, now for people
33:19
to start to really kind of, you know,
33:21
learn more about Lucid and, you know,
33:23
now they have this electric
33:27
quote-unquote SUV, they want to call
33:29
it an SUV, but it's basically a minivan
33:31
but they go zero to 60
33:33
in like 3.5 seconds.
33:35
You know, the fact that they have
33:37
these sort of game-changing
33:41
makes me wonder why Tesla
33:45
in the way they've already been doing things
33:47
that they wouldn't step
33:49
into the mix now and start to,
33:51
you know, bring themselves back
33:53
in so that people can get acclimated
33:57
I think Tesla doesn't care.
33:59
Honestly, they're like above it.
34:01
They're like, would you go for that?
34:03
We are so above your little
34:05
pathetic little auto show.
34:11
We've done our things to do.
34:13
And I 100% can see it.
34:15
Like, me personally,
34:17
I think it's a mistake, but again,
34:21
I'm not the guys that are running the show
34:23
and so maybe they, I know
34:25
there's a different outlook on it.
34:27
People are going to buy Tesla
34:31
If Tesla is at the auto show,
34:33
it's not going to convince anybody to buy Tesla.
34:35
I think if somebody sees a Tesla,
34:37
knows a Tesla, Tesla is so well known
34:41
the car company, the cars are everywhere.
34:43
This is here in Southern California, it seems everywhere.
34:47
and I'm sure you can,
34:49
I think you can order from their website.
34:51
I don't think you need to go into the store.
34:53
It's convenient to buy it all.
34:55
I personally like to test drive a car
34:59
Maybe I'll just old-fashioned that way.
35:01
I don't know if I can do the whole vending machine
35:03
with a caravan experience.
35:05
I don't know if I can do that.
35:07
I want to physically drive the thing,
35:09
pop the hood, see what I got in the engine,
35:11
that kind of stuff.
35:13
But some people don't.
35:15
Some people just want to buy whatever, order.
35:17
Same thing with phones and stuff too.
35:19
If you go to the phone store,
35:21
you figure it's good, it's good, whatever.
35:23
I mean, that's a good point
35:25
because I mean, there's people,
35:27
if you just take the phone,
35:29
the phone sector for example,
35:31
there's certain people that it doesn't matter
35:33
what's going on with Apple,
35:35
they're going to get the new iPhone.
35:37
They're not even thinking about
35:43
It's not even on their radar.
35:45
I guess you can say, yeah, like Tesla's
35:47
in a spot where there's people
35:49
they are even thinking about
35:53
comparable EV is going to be.
35:55
It's like, if I was going to get a Tesla,
35:57
I'm just going to get a Tesla.
36:01
I don't think that might be the laurels
36:03
they're resting on.
36:07
market share gets eaten up by Lucid
36:11
whoever else or whatever else.
36:13
But there are so many
36:15
EV cars you can choose from.
36:19
but like you say like Hyundai's got a bunch,
36:21
Kia's got a bunch, Ford's got a bunch,
36:23
Chevy's got a bunch, I think Volvo
36:25
and they all got a bunch of their EV
36:29
So even with all that,
36:31
Tesla's like, nah, we're good, we don't need them.
36:37
It's good to be at the top, you know,
36:39
I mean, I'd say I've never owned a Tesla,
36:41
you know, I've driven one, you've driven one.
36:45
They're not nice, I'm sure.
36:47
They're great, they've got a great network,
36:49
they've got the great charging network,
36:51
they've got the great updates doing the thing.
36:55
really, really great customer service,
36:57
I'm sure, where you can like, you know,
36:59
text them out of the app and get it fixed
37:01
immediately, I don't know.
37:03
So they have this whole ecosystem.
37:05
So I think, another thing too is I think
37:07
it's kind of cool, it's a cool vibe
37:09
to say you drive a Tesla.
37:11
And it's like, remember when Starbucks
37:13
cup, it was like a status symbol.
37:17
And the same thing for like an Apple, like a MacBook
37:19
computer, like, you know.
37:21
I don't think that hasn't faded yet.
37:23
I mean, you know, Apple
37:25
products in general just have this
37:27
like, you know, just think about them
37:29
versus like anything else where like,
37:31
yeah, like there's a standout product
37:33
here and there, but you know,
37:35
they haven't quite garnered
37:37
that like loyalty factor,
37:39
I feel like as Apple has,
37:41
you know, I will say with Starbucks though,
37:43
they got a real fierce competitor
37:45
coming down there, coming down their side
37:47
of things right now in the coffee space.
37:49
Oh, definitely. Yeah.
37:51
A lot of them are dead now. I'm not saying dead.
37:53
A lot of them are not as busy as they once were.
37:55
And so they're closed in places.
37:57
I mean, they were on every corner for a while.
37:59
There was this one, if you're familiar
38:01
with Mission Gorge Road in San Diego,
38:03
I'll think freeway.
38:05
I remember a while ago, there was literally like
38:07
three Starbucks within like walking distance
38:09
over there. I kid you, you know,
38:11
that whole block section over there.
38:13
I was like, yeah, be crazy. There's one here, one there, one there.
38:15
I think they closed most of them down.
38:17
There might be one left, but it was like four or whatever.
38:19
Then one little section, that's crazy.
38:21
But anyways, back to the auto show.
38:23
So you're walking around, checking different things out.
38:25
Do you guys have anything to eat while you're there?
38:27
Was there anything to eat or anything?
38:29
Yeah. The food select, they had, you know,
38:31
chicken tenders, fries for the kids,
38:33
whole little pizza set. Yeah.
38:35
And again, this was just the food court we went to.
38:37
The other side, there was another whole food court.
38:39
No way. That's great. So yeah.
38:41
You're dialed in with food there.
38:43
And they had the bathrooms where they, in the convention center,
38:45
had to leave to get to the bathroom.
38:47
No, no. They had an overabundance
38:49
of bathrooms as well. Like each main entrance
38:53
And then like when we first came in,
38:55
there was a bathroom. Again,
38:57
the bathroom was leading us to this
38:59
multi-million dollar, you know, car collection,
39:01
which was pretty cool. But yeah,
39:03
they super set with like bathrooms.
39:05
And I'd say, you know, overall
39:07
the facility was just, you know,
39:09
was pretty top notch.
39:11
Like the only slight downside,
39:13
I guess you can say is that
39:15
the west side where we first got in
39:17
is there's a pretty long walk
39:19
to get to the south side.
39:21
Like a big long, like, you know,
39:23
just kind of one of those like
39:25
almost like airport corridors kind of thing.
39:27
Oh, right. Like a walkway.
39:29
They kind of just keep walking forever kind of thing.
39:31
And it's up, it's uphill if you're going from
39:33
the south side as well. So
39:35
we weren't allowed to bring our like wagon.
39:37
Like they don't let you bring like
39:39
big wagons and things, which I can totally
39:41
understand why. But when you got a
39:43
two and a half year old
39:45
and a six year old is lazy
39:49
you're either going to carry them
39:51
or you're going to hear them complaining about walking
39:53
a lot. But you know that, again,
39:55
that's just a small downside.
39:57
Those strollers roll out either?
39:59
They do. Like you can bring a small
40:01
stroller and like if you have a double stroller
40:03
like I think they would let that slide
40:05
but they were specifically
40:07
discriminant in their directions
40:11
where they consider a wagon like, yeah,
40:13
like, you know, wagging with the four wheels on each side.
40:15
Like they said that you couldn't bring
40:17
that. That was like, they were pretty
40:19
like, don't do that. The strollers
40:21
you could bring. So I don't know if they
40:23
had a particular incident in the past
40:25
and they just, you know, have wrote those
40:27
off completely. But San Diego Auto Show
40:29
lets us do that all the time. So
40:31
I was a little surprised by that.
40:37
Yeah. So I'm sure the kids are tired
40:39
of walking around. No, but
40:41
I mean, they, you know, again, they
40:43
enjoyed themselves. Like there was enough
40:45
there was a lot to entertain both
40:47
like, you know, the adults and
40:49
the kids, which again is a huge
40:51
shout out to them because, you know,
40:53
the San Diego Auto Show was
40:55
maybe like a, you know, yes, they could
40:57
get in the cars and kind of check them out.
40:59
And there was maybe like some little things
41:01
here and there that the kids could do. But,
41:03
you know, they they could get bored pretty
41:05
quick because there wasn't a lot tailored to
41:07
that. Or someone who's not really
41:09
into cars or that you get bored
41:11
really, really quick. Cause we brought
41:13
yeah, we brought somebody that was
41:15
really into cars the last time it went
41:17
a couple of years ago. And literally
41:19
we we were checking out like we were
41:21
under our second exhibit and he was already
41:23
bored when I go home. Yeah, like already
41:25
bored. And like, we haven't like
41:27
we haven't like, like
41:29
surface. Yeah. Right.
41:31
We haven't seen anything. We just got here.
41:33
We just got here, you know, like so
41:35
we I guess it depends
41:37
on anything. Like if someone drag me
41:39
something, I don't want to go see or be at
41:41
I might get bored with it too. So I
41:43
get I get that, I guess. But
41:45
so you saw as much as you
41:47
could. Now, did you go for any of the
41:49
cool ride alongs like at all?
41:51
I did. What you got? What did you do?
41:53
Yeah. So they did have
41:55
like the Jeep excursion thing that they
41:57
do where you can ride along and
41:59
go up the little really steep hill
42:01
and metal, metal ramps
42:03
and things like that. We didn't
42:05
get to do that because, you know, just
42:07
with the family didn't allow kids to do
42:11
they because they had that display where
42:13
the kids like spent the whole hour just
42:15
like racing their cars down the road and
42:17
things like that. My wife kind of hung
42:19
back and watched them and it was a good
42:21
break for her so you could just kind of chill and
42:23
watch them and kind of she did a little
42:25
trivia game actually that they were playing
42:27
for the Paris while they were there, which
42:29
is pretty cool. I got a chance to sneak
42:31
away to Hyundai's booth
42:39
on basically on ride alongs
42:41
within the convention center.
42:43
Those are all electric, right? There's no
42:45
exhaust, no smoke or like that. Yep. All
42:47
electric and yeah. So
42:49
and they had like a nice little
42:51
course built out and
42:53
you know just kind of a little, it's not
42:55
really a circle but it was like a path where
42:57
they could go like in a circle. They go, they take
42:59
your way on twice and then they come back
43:01
and they switch out, they switch out folks
43:03
from there. And I had a chance
43:05
to, I was like looking at some of
43:07
the merch and things like that for a while
43:09
and I came back and like the
43:11
staff there, like their particular marketing
43:13
staff was like super, they were super
43:15
chill. Like I was one of the ladies was
43:17
like yeah, like make sure you go with
43:19
this guy because he'll actually
43:21
he'll get on it for you
43:23
and make sure you get in that car.
43:25
And so I came up and I
43:27
filled out the waiver which we talked about this before
43:29
but the main thing that they
43:31
want to do is an email grab
43:33
and they do want to know like
43:35
what cars you're potentially interested in
43:37
like your timeframe of buying. Of course.
43:41
They're spending so much money on this
43:43
overall display and everything
43:45
and the cars out and everything so I get it.
43:47
Like they want to kind of translate some of that
43:49
into some actual traffic but
43:53
situation they actually had
43:55
so they had like the EV9
43:57
they had like the big SUV where you could
43:59
go for a ride and they have a nice
44:01
straight away where they can gun it and you can
44:03
feel like the electric acceleration
44:05
but with the Ioniq cars
44:07
the 6-in and the 5-in
44:09
they actually had some guys behind the wheel
44:11
that were drifting the cars
44:15
And I like we came in initially
44:17
and we were looking at like all of the in-cars
44:19
which you know big shout out to them
44:21
because they brought out every single in-car
44:23
they have including this special edition one
44:25
that they're bringing to the states next year
44:27
and so we were checking all of those out
44:29
and we started hearing like you know
44:31
like skid marks like not just like
44:33
from cars that are just trying to turn on
44:35
like slippery floors but like
44:37
you know actually like tire spinning and
44:39
we're like what's going on and so we peek
44:41
around the wall where all the rest of the in-cars
44:43
are and it was just as like
44:45
this Ioniq 5-in was
44:47
drifting around this corner
44:49
and so I went on I got a chance
44:51
while the kids were playing and doing their car thing
44:53
to take a ride around
44:55
and yeah dudes like
44:57
you know he put the 5-in
44:59
all the way into like rear-wheel-drive bias
45:01
and you know they gun it down
45:03
the straight away and they make their turn around
45:05
and as they're going around this like
45:07
you know basically you turn section
45:11
he drifts it around
45:13
and he takes you around twice around the course
45:15
and each time you're going around this U-turn section
45:19
I just thought that was the coolest thing
45:21
that they're just like at a point where
45:23
you know they know the safety factor
45:25
and everything is like good enough for them to be able to do it
45:27
but you know they're letting you experience
45:29
kind of this like fun section
45:33
by drifting them indoors
45:35
that's great now what kind of like pavement
45:39
yeah like the slick like if you
45:41
if you've ever been in like yeah like those conference
45:43
you know those those convention centers
45:45
like they just like leaving skid marks all over those
45:47
things or what no it surprisingly
45:49
doesn't really like I'm sure like there's probably
45:51
like little fine marks maybe they find a way
45:53
to like get rid of that or something
45:55
it's kind of what if they're doing drifting you know you're
45:57
gonna be like leaving tire marks usually you do
45:59
so I think it works if it's slippery
46:01
enough though like it's it's sort of
46:03
like that effect if you were ever when you
46:05
were a kid if you ever like took
46:07
your RC cars and you take
46:09
like the rear tires off
46:11
of them and and you
46:13
would like you when you take the rear
46:15
tires off then you could like by
46:17
giving it gap like giving it little throttle
46:19
you can actually cause it to drift around
46:21
on like a slippery like wooden floor
46:23
or something like that okay okay
46:25
I feel like it's kind of the same effect is
46:27
like if the floor is slippery enough
46:29
the tires like even with just a little
46:31
bit of input are gonna start to spin
46:33
and so they you know you're
46:35
able to like get a chance to spin around
46:37
without like as much effort as it
46:39
takes on like a regular like asphalt
46:41
you know situation so
46:43
they they seem to have a pretty dialed I
46:45
was I was impressed where you know he
46:47
would just go in he just kick it in
46:49
just swing it around with a tire slick
46:51
already though I don't know
46:53
I mean they they're they're going
46:55
pretty like continuously around like
46:57
they're stopping for like
46:59
maybe two minutes at most and then
47:01
just going back around the circle and
47:03
there was no smoke coming off of it was there
47:05
no like yeah no it's they don't they
47:07
don't it's not like you know you're not
47:09
getting a big smoke cloud it's not a real drift
47:11
it's not like it's like you know you're burning
47:13
you say it's it's a you know over exaggerated
47:15
slide maybe I guess yeah okay
47:17
but you're but you're getting sideways
47:19
which is the important thing nice nice
47:21
guys imagine like tires
47:23
being just like skid marks and like
47:25
smoke you know come out the rear tires
47:27
and like everybody get like dusted out
47:29
cloud of smoke in the convention center
47:31
you go around the corner
47:33
yeah well that's pretty cool
47:35
man that's pretty awesome I wish I could have gone
47:37
I keep seeing the flyers for it on Instagram
47:39
and I followed the LA I think it followed them on
47:41
Instagram the LA auto show and
47:43
I was like yeah that's I'll check out tickets
47:45
and I thought I saw like
47:47
I thought the tickets were like $100 for tickets
47:49
maybe it was like a weekend package or something
47:51
I don't know yeah I didn't I only saw
47:53
one option it was yeah like around 25
47:55
bucks or something like that
47:57
maybe it was something like like group like
47:59
maybe it was like a big like VIP
48:01
experience or something I don't know I mean
48:03
I was their websites looking at different things but
48:05
so so is it over now like
48:07
is record this that the auto shows over this weekend
48:11
depending on when this comes out but they
48:13
they do they I guess they run
48:15
this for two weeks versus
48:17
like the San Diego auto show I think is usually
48:19
four days yeah about four days so
48:21
you know maybe this is
48:23
a good little like blur for next year
48:25
because they they seem to do it around the same time
48:27
but this year they're doing it from
48:29
the 21st to the 30th
48:31
so you know that's you know they got
48:33
all pretty much a full two weeks of
48:35
of events and a lot of the people there
48:37
are going to be there the whole
48:39
size wise we're going to compare
48:41
to like how much bigger than San
48:43
Diego's is this overall at least
48:45
double at least double so take
48:47
two of what San Diego puts together two
48:51
there's a possibility is more and I
48:53
would definitely lean towards the side that
48:55
it's probably more than that but
48:57
at least double is is I think
48:59
a safe estimate I wish I said anyone
49:01
to just get back into it and get back into
49:03
like yeah first I like to have more
49:05
variety of cars there and also
49:09
I don't know it just seemed like it got became
49:11
like a just one end of the convention
49:13
standards like all selling you crap and a lot
49:15
of the crap they sell you it's not even car related stuff
49:17
it's like solar for your house and like
49:19
other stuff you know
49:21
and unfortunately yeah you know
49:23
I think the unfortunate thing
49:25
is that LA really has like
49:27
a pool with like the car community
49:31
and I think that that's like that's
49:33
the reason why you get a lot of
49:35
like the again that whole
49:39
was you know all fully modified
49:41
JDM cars you know from
49:43
a lot of the shops that are
49:45
in the area like they
49:47
they you know have cars that they just kind of donate
49:49
for the show you know even
49:51
even some of the main
49:53
actual like manufacturers like Toyota for example
49:57
display they had like an old
49:59
like you know Toyota Land Cruiser like
50:01
the 80s like the 80
50:03
I don't know the series and things
50:05
but they had like an old like
50:07
mint condition like 80s
50:09
Land Cruiser on display
50:11
as well as like you know kind of an early
50:15
you know for sure that they came from people
50:17
like there were probably any area that were like
50:19
you know we we want to you know kind
50:21
of show people like the history of Toyota
50:23
so like do you mind displaying your car
50:25
here like I think the
50:29
lends a little bit more to you know a
50:31
lot of these like you know mod
50:33
shops and like you know tuning
50:35
shops and you know just this
50:37
car culture that's there that allows them
50:39
to have these more like specialized
50:41
sections versus like
50:43
in San Diego you know we have
50:45
some but we don't have as much
50:47
of those like specialty shops and
50:49
things like that where you know
50:51
they're just leaning on the manufacturers
50:53
to try and bring that experience but
50:55
unfortunately the manufacturers got
50:57
a limit on how much they really want
50:59
to spend and invest in the show
51:01
and and so you you know
51:03
unfortunately you you you get a
51:05
lot more of a watered-down experience
51:07
I feel like on the San Diego side
51:09
yeah and I still go every
51:11
year you know and I still do it
51:13
but like I said it's like
51:15
where it used to be like you needed
51:17
like a full day to see everything in
51:19
the San Diego thing now it's like a couple
51:21
hours you're good blow through it yeah
51:23
yeah and you go through it and you might
51:25
sit in the car you want to sit in you
51:27
know and you might check out because I used
51:29
to go there I kid you know with my digital
51:31
camera and burn through two memory cards
51:33
taking pictures of everything
51:35
I mean everything I mean every single
51:37
car was there I took a picture of it
51:39
everything that was there and so it's
51:41
it everything they pictures everything and I
51:43
get all the flyers no brochures for
51:45
everything I should it was like a full
51:47
on event for me when I were to go and I
51:49
loved it I loved it so much every single
51:51
year we go there but I said lately it
51:53
has been kind of a disappointment it's
51:55
been kind of like a yeah
51:57
you know I mean it's like I mean some of
51:59
the cars you want to sit in maybe
52:01
want to check out the new Mustang but
52:03
the thing some of the new stuff's I
52:05
mean there like the new new whatever's
52:07
coming out I mean there they've got
52:09
the dealership to check out yourself
52:13
yeah no I mean I definitely
52:19
the experience used to be pretty
52:21
pretty top-notch and you know again
52:23
that was even before I started like
52:25
filming and doing things but like you
52:27
really didn't need a whole day
52:29
you know really the like experience
52:31
you know sometimes you might go back multiple
52:33
days just because there was so much to see
52:35
the you know but now it's
52:37
like yeah you knock it out and you know okay that was great
52:39
like you know but I mean
52:41
with the LA show like
52:43
again like you know I mentioned multiple
52:45
times like I saw posts of things that
52:47
like I didn't even know like that was
52:51
see Chevy I didn't see Chevy while we
52:53
were there like you know I I didn't
52:55
see the there was like a low rider exhibit
52:57
that I didn't see no way you
52:59
know there there was just
53:01
it just and there was the whole outside
53:03
section where we didn't even get to stop
53:05
at like the scout the scout
53:07
section do what I want to scout I want to
53:09
check do that that's like the only EV I really
53:11
really want really yeah scout
53:13
because it looks that's like the small like
53:15
EV truck and they got a truck and they
53:17
got an SUV they're not that small they're like
53:19
mid-sized I think and they just
53:21
look like like the Bronco I was like the
53:23
Bronco especially like the the Raptor
53:25
Bronco the Sasquatch and all that
53:27
so they kind of have that
53:29
style going on with the scout
53:31
but it's not a Bronco it's
53:33
it's just something different it's an EV and all
53:35
stuff so I think it's kind of cool
53:37
I dig them I've never seen one in
53:39
person I'm only on YouTube of course but
53:41
so you did see them in person yeah
53:43
yeah about I actually saw one
53:45
when we went out to moderate car week
53:47
this year too they they brought
53:49
some out to just some random
53:51
coffee shop like cars and coffee that
53:53
they did out there they were pre-production
53:55
like the lady didn't even really like
53:57
let you see too much of the interior
53:59
because they were still like pretty early
54:01
production but they had a couple out
54:03
on display out there at the
54:05
show and they had a whole band that
54:07
was playing out that they created this whole
54:09
like kind of almost beach side
54:11
ambiance type thing and you know
54:13
a couple little displays so yeah no they
54:15
were out there full force
54:17
yeah it doesn't come out to like 2027
54:19
I heard I'm thinking like it's a cool car
54:21
and everything but like it was announced
54:23
like two years ago it was announced
54:25
or whatever it was announced I'm like by then it comes out
54:27
wouldn't forget all about it that's been one of
54:29
the biggest like the biggest unanimous
54:31
comments is that they just they
54:33
announced it so long ago
54:35
and the the potential
54:37
production is going to be so far out that
54:39
when it finally comes out
54:41
you know people are just
54:43
probably going to be the lost interest or
54:45
like something else is going to have come out
54:47
in that time frame that just like draws
54:49
their attention away from it
54:51
right they only got two vehicles are betting the farm
54:53
on it they're building a whole factory and everything
54:55
so yeah it's it's not like
54:57
they can easily pivot to something else like
54:59
Ford's trying to do with the lightning you know
55:01
they're kind of make a smaller version of the lightning
55:03
here right that's going to be like as miniature
55:05
a mini lightning I guess or
55:07
or a mid-sized lightning or yeah
55:09
they want to make like
55:11
I think the full-size electric is kind of like
55:13
the thing they're like and doesn't we don't like this
55:15
so they're going to try and make it like a
55:17
like kind of a Rivian size like Rivian competitor
55:19
like that size kind of
55:21
kind of a car or a truck
55:23
so we will see what they do you know whatever
55:27
I mean the cars are cool
55:29
I mean EVs seem to work out pretty well I mean
55:31
they're pretty reliable from what I heard
55:33
I mean I've never owned one but
55:35
you're still like our motors
55:39
it just depends on the kind of car you're going to do
55:41
I mean if you want something just for transportation
55:45
maybe you know I guess
55:47
electric was good to go whatever but
55:49
that range anxiety like I said it's a real
55:51
thing and I think I think
55:53
kind of driving far
55:55
like anywhere or anything
55:57
I'd probably you know
55:59
but also filling up the electric
56:01
I'm sorry juicing up the electric
56:03
battery like you got to pay for that Chevy wasn't
56:05
cheap either yeah no I was I was talking
56:07
to a guy today about that that wasn't
56:09
that was about the same as
56:11
getting gas and I didn't even
56:13
fill up all the way so
56:15
you know if I filled up all the way I would say
56:17
it was pretty apples to apples
56:19
comparison in terms of price so
56:21
you know you're not again you have
56:23
the benefit of charging at your house
56:29
convenience factor of being able to charge
56:31
your house but you know you're still paying
56:35
but thing is it's just castations everywhere
56:37
there's castations everywhere man it's all
56:39
like it's all like you live so far away
56:41
there's no gas station
56:43
it's possible but I mean
56:45
but even towns like Victorville gas
56:47
stations yeah I guess
56:49
you're in that limbo between like when you
56:51
if you live in like Gorman or something
56:53
out and like going on the five going
56:55
like up north or down south like
56:57
in that like little area where like the
56:59
grapevine is and you get those
57:01
sections where you don't get
57:03
gas station on the grapevine though there's two there are
57:05
yeah mm-hmm yeah so there's no excuse
57:07
they're like they're like 30 40 miles
57:09
apart or something like that I feel like
57:11
but I'm with the prices for those gas
57:13
stations you know they gouge you know
57:15
what are you gonna do
57:17
I've seen some ridiculous stuff on
57:21
back when gas price like gas prices
57:23
I mean they're still like relatively high but
57:25
back when they were like high everywhere
57:27
like it was like you know they were
57:29
high fives and then you would see like
57:31
seven dollars a gallon at like
57:33
some of those stations it was
57:35
just the craziest thing there's this gas
57:37
station that I deliver to
57:39
that is in Chula Vista area
57:41
and it's it's one of
57:43
stations where you're coming from like East
57:45
Lake area you're getting to the freeway it's the
57:47
only gas station before you hit the on-ramp
57:49
like only gas station for the on-ramp and
57:51
it's got a they're always like way over
57:55
and I'm like the only reason why they do
57:57
that is because they're like literally
57:59
like you're coming from like East Lake to the freeway
58:01
it's like the last station
58:03
the only gas station before you get on
58:05
the on-ramp yeah it's like right there
58:07
it's like in and out you can swoop in
58:09
and swoop out and it's right there but
58:11
the prices are like always like crazy high
58:13
that's kind of what it is I guess you know
58:15
supply and demand location that kind of
58:17
stuff you know so but hey Courage man
58:19
this has been so great having you on the show again tonight
58:21
and bringing you on by and your cool
58:23
trip to the LA at Los Angeles
58:25
auto show LA auto show I guess yeah
58:27
and all those fun times now
58:29
did you find any car you wanted to buy that was there
58:35
I mean I'm just gonna start sounding
58:37
like a like a Hyundai
58:41
not even doing that intentionally but
58:43
there were two cars that they brought out one
58:45
actually from Hyundai and then
58:47
the other from Genesis actually
58:49
which I know you shared
58:51
some things from Genesis on your
58:53
Instagram page you know
58:55
that they brought out they
58:57
well the Hyundai had the
58:59
the new Hyundai Palisade
59:01
but it's the XRT version
59:03
that's the SUV version right
59:05
yeah it's an SUV but
59:07
but it's the off-road version
59:09
so they have like an off-road trim
59:11
and so it comes with like these big
59:13
beefy tires it's got
59:15
a bit more ground clearance
59:17
got a couple of like you know kind of
59:19
off-road kind of bits and pieces
59:21
and things like that but then it's a three
59:23
row SUV which you know just
59:25
kind of fits they did bring out Genesis
59:27
brought out some of their like magma
59:29
you know cars which there
59:31
that's what they're calling like their performance
59:35
and they brought out like their
59:37
which I forgot exactly what it's called like
59:41
I think they're calling it
59:43
and that car is basically sort of like
59:49
luxurified but then also some other
59:51
crazy features on top of that
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and they did a pretty cool job with that too
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those are the two on the Hyundai side
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I also will say though I really like the Charger EV
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I'm just putting it out there
00:03
I saw one on display I got a chance
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I think it's a cool thing
00:07
well you said it here first man
00:09
now does it feel any different
00:11
than the regular Charger
00:13
or Challenger EV or Charger EV?
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well because now like
00:19
weirdly enough like the Charger EV
00:21
like they make a four door
00:25
and a two door Charger EV
00:27
so they've sort of combined the Challenger
00:29
and the Charger as one thing now
00:31
and you know they have a two door
00:33
and a four door version of it
00:37
they are making a six pack
00:39
version of the Charger now
00:41
with a straight six with a twin
00:43
turbo Charger straight six
00:49
which you know yes it seems weird in a Charger
00:53
it's a pretty powerful engine
00:55
and you know and it sounds
00:57
pretty cool too I mean it's weird
00:59
to see it in something that
01:01
you know I say to this day like
01:03
say what you want about the EV platform
01:05
side of the Charger I think they nailed
01:09
if they would have started with
01:11
if they would have just made a gas powered
01:13
V8 version of the Charger
01:17
design that they have now
01:19
I think they would have had a winning ticket completely
01:23
that they've actually put a gasoline
01:25
you know even if it is a straight six engine in it
01:27
I think that it's a cool package
01:29
you know yes it's not the Charger
01:31
Challenger that we were used to but
01:33
I still think they have the same
01:35
presence when they're rolling down the street
01:37
like they did a really good job
01:39
with the design of it and the interior is really nice
01:43
you know I told you the only reason that I didn't
01:45
drive a Charger EV when I rented
01:47
the Silverado EV was because
01:49
it was in the shop and
01:51
why would an EV that's only two years
01:53
old be in the shop I don't know
01:57
yeah so maybe we got
01:59
the same similar you know Fiat Chrysler
02:01
you know Dodge reliability
02:03
even in the EV form
02:05
but outside of that
02:07
like I think it's a pretty cool package
02:09
well that's cool man I mean
02:11
you can see yourself driving one of those things it's pretty cool
02:13
I mean I dig them too I mean I'd probably
02:15
I probably I don't know if like well
02:17
it depends if I have choices of other cars
02:19
I have to think we've got choices
02:21
I don't know this one likes the better this one
02:25
stick with our brands you know
02:27
if you're a Ford guy or a Toyota guy
02:29
or Chevy guy whatever guy you are
02:31
even though some car might be
02:33
slightly better in other ways have different
02:35
features in other ways well I'm a Chevy guy
02:37
so I'm gonna stick with whatever Chevy makes
02:39
you know and things like that so
02:41
I get that I think if you go to an auto show
02:43
like the LA auto show or San Diego auto show
02:45
you kind of like will jump right into your
02:47
brand like I did the same thing oh
02:49
that's my brand car I'm gonna jump into that
02:51
area like your Hyundai area and just be like
02:53
love a check on the Hyundai stuff I got
02:55
this is my cool people this is my club
02:57
you know yeah I'm home
03:01
it feel that way too for sure
03:03
but but yeah no I get you
03:05
I I think it does you know
03:07
the challenge to is again with like a lot
03:09
of brands dropping out like you know there's
03:11
certain there's certain brands that I would love to see
03:13
that I would have loved to see there
03:15
they weren't there like I mean I would love to see
03:17
some new offerings from BMW from
03:21
Jaguar doesn't really exist anymore for some weird
03:23
reason but you know they got a lot
03:25
of things going on car they had
03:27
yeah you know seeing the F type
03:29
and you know even they had the XF
03:31
and you know other you know other
03:33
cars like that you know they're they're kind
03:35
of out of the scene but you know
03:37
with them dropping out you know you sort
03:39
of your list stores starts to dwindle
03:41
a little bit but you know out
03:43
out of just like the cars that were there
03:45
the brands that were there and then the brands
03:47
that I think really are like really
03:49
putting focus on like their
03:51
their new cars in a positive
03:53
direction you know those were the ones
03:55
that really stuck out to me like
03:57
you know Dodge is trying to really like establish
03:59
itself now kind of a newer
04:03
you know make something compelling and I
04:05
you know I commend them for it
04:07
you know Hyundai is is making their name
04:09
Hyundai Genesis is making their name
04:11
you know from you know from a name
04:13
in the past it wasn't maybe
04:17
I guess you could say as honorable
04:19
like you know people just talk all the time
04:21
about old Hyundai's reliability
04:23
and things like that but you know
04:25
they've really made some shifts and it's just
04:27
cool now to kind of see them coming to their
04:29
own where they're just super confident
04:31
about like the decisions they're making
04:33
in the direction of their company so those
04:35
were my standouts like I said maybe a little
04:37
bit of bias in it but you know they
04:39
they stood out to me for sure
04:41
well that's great man I would do the exact same
04:43
thing too man was there any cool
04:45
hack that you got from the auto show
04:47
any souvenirs yeah yeah
04:49
I actually did get a
04:51
in in jacket like a
04:53
what like a windbreaker no way
04:55
I have been wanting to get one because
04:57
they they have them at the dealership
04:59
nearby me but I just have been
05:01
just putting it off and and they were kind of
05:03
weird to where they only sell them through the service
05:05
department so I just like
05:07
you know that was just never timed
05:09
it right but the lady that worked
05:11
there that was just super nice and
05:13
you know she actually gave me like a free bag
05:15
along with it and some other things too
05:17
but but yeah stag me a jacket
05:19
that jacket over there I wish I would have got
05:21
the signed posters that the
05:23
the Shelby guy was signing
05:25
like I said I'm bummed that I missed out
05:27
on that because that would have been a cool
05:29
little thing that to kind of collect from that event
05:31
but the the main thing
05:33
was the jacket the jacket and the experience
05:35
I guess you can say oh that's great
05:37
man I'm sure lots of photos too
05:39
lots of photos a lot a lot of photos
05:41
and and maybe just a small plug
05:43
is there definitely will be a video coming out
05:45
of my channel there you go